Wednesday Caps Clips: Caps Win Again; Caps @ Bruins Game Day
by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 6:42 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win from Vogs, Masisak, Carrera (blog, gamer), Caps365 (video), Caps365 (video), Frankovic, CK, Caps Snaps (blog, pics), LIR, RMNB, OFB (here and here), Caps In Pictures (pics), Capitals Center, bridgetds (pics), Expressen via Google Translate, Bruins blog.
- A preview of tonight's rematch up in Beantown from Vogs (who's apparently already in mid-season form), and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Stanley Cup of Chowder for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- A bit more preseason "rookies to watch" love for John Carlson and Michal Neuvirth. [LeBrun]
- Another rook, Marcus Johansson, is still working on securing a roster spot. [CI]
- Yesterday's short-lived rumor du jour had Alex Ovechkin prepping to duet with Eminem. [Puck Daddy, CSN Washington]
- Debating whether or not AO can bring the Caps the Cup... [Versus]
- ... and Adrian Dater calls Ovi fat. OK. [Versus]
- Corey Masisak and Craig Custance preview the Southeast Division... [RLD Hockey Talk (audio)]
- ... and Down Goes Brown previews the Eastern Conference as only he can. [DGB]
- A panel of journos go on the record with their 2010-11 predictions. [USA Today, USA Today]
- 30 in 30: David Steckel. [Red Line Station]
- How to dress your kid, Part 2. [Box Seats]
- More on some of those changes to the penalty kill. [CI, JtG]
- A couple of radio hits to pass along - Olie Kolzig on Elliot In The Morning at 9:30 (listen here) and George McPhee on NHL Live at 12:45. [@washcaps]
- Things that make you happy to be a Caps fan (and sad to be Nats fan). [Nationals News Network]
- Nicklas Backstrom (and Ted Leonsis) represented the Caps yesterday up on The Hill at the roll-out of a city-wide anti-obesity event. [Redskins Insider]
- It's never too early to start shopping for free-agents-to-be. [LeBrun]
- Notes and whatnot from the first on-ice session at Bears camp. [Leone, Stack the Pads (pics), Stack the Pads (video), CBS 21 News (video), LDN]
- In case you didn't know, Nikita Kashirsky's local ties go beyond being BFF's with the town's best-known puckster. [OFB]
- If the Wild call, Jose Theodore is answerin'. [Russo]
- Finally, happy 46th birthday to John Tucker and happy 60th to Rolf Edberg.
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That’s just a ridiculous comment altogether and nothing to be taken seriously.
I’m sick and tired of the goaltending comments as well. They are just retread. You can point to our goaltending in one of two ways, depending upon your bias:
1. The Caps goaltending continues to be suspect and not capable of a long playoff run. Even the offense and an improved defense in front won’t be enough.
2. The Caps goaltending continues to be suspect, but either of the two young goaltenders could have a breakout year and lead a team, just as Dryden, Roy, and, most recently, Niemi, have done as youngsters. They certainly have the offense and an improved defense in front of them.
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Between his diaphragm and his knees, AO is indeed thick. Always has been. It’s what gives him all that speed and strength. It doesn’t mean he’s fat.
Goalie memes are the last refuge of the lazy journalist.
Adrian Dater is a tool.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Do I even need to add any comment here?
Between his diaphragm and his knees, AO is indeed thick.
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Heh. I had forgotten about that.
Below is the image JP posted during that discussion. That’s not a body that is going to get you into a lot of glossy magazine spreads, but it’s not out of shape, either
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
It like the guys in strongman competitions that are just all muscle with little definition.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
I think he needs to get rid of the bling. Not a good look.
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He’s not carrying a lot of extra bulk in his chest and arms, so he doesn’t look like a model. He is carrying a ton of muscle in his back, torso, glutes and thighs. Plus he’s got a little bit of extra fat. Hell, he probably burns 5000 calories on game days, a bit of extra fat will keep him going.
Adrian Dater is a moron.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Yup. When you cut to be model like, you don’t have as much energy. The truly strong guys do carry some extra and that’s how it goes.
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Hockey muscle isn’t necessarily the “attractive” muscle. His core and ass are probably rock solid, but he doesn’t have the arm or chest definition. That’s the way hockey players are.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Ovechkin is the Russian equivalent to a Samoan. Not defined like a lot of elite athletes, but just strong as hell.
4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...
When he’s done as an athlete maybe he can become a Samoan lawyer.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 29, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Troy Polamalu is the NFL’s version of Ovechkin.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Palomalu is good, but not that good. Let’s not get carried away!
A danger to myself and others on the ice
by can't skate on Sep 29, 2010 12:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not that he’s better than Troy, but Laron Landry hits like a train and he’s really built. I imagine Ovie playing football would hit like Laron Landry.
by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 29, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently you haven’t seen the Steelers’ defense with and without Polamalu.
And I was talking more about their similarity in strength, speed and explosiveness than I was just about talent.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And the rare combination of talents – a forward who can score and hit the way AO can / a safety that is dominant at all levels of the defense. Both guys make their teams run, and both are the focuses of game planning.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
“Lazy” being the operative word. Garbage in, garbage out.
by mechanicsville on Sep 29, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
In no way to I think the goaltending is suspect, but I do think that it is the biggest thing to watch on this team. The Caps are not going to trade for a veteran, they’re not desperate to sure up the position, and the guys are not suspect.
However, they’re going into this season with no clear #1 and both their guys are pretty young — something you don’t often see in legitimate Stanley Cup contenders.
My concern with the goaltending has much more to do with durability than experience at this point.
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So, so true.
Which I why I think there are going to be a few Dany Sabourin sightings this year at the VC.
Really? do you think he would get the call up before Holtby? Or are you just thinking both Varly and Neuvy go down at the same time at some point?
I think that he is the logical guy to come up and be a back-up and not get much ice-time. I think they’ll keep Holtby at Hershey to play, and bring Sabourin up to DC to sit on the bench.
I don’t know… I think it will be based on how long one Varly or Neuvy would be out. It its a month I think you see Holtby here before you see Sabourin. (At least I would hope we would.)
Would not surprise me if it did happen at least once. It’s not unprecedented for the Caps to have two goalies out at the same time. Recall Dec 2008 when Theodore and Johnson were both ailing and Varly had to make the trip from deep in the heart of Texas during a Hershey roadtrip and Stretch served as backup for a period until Varly could get to VC.
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But Johnson was already beginning to show signs of not great health. He had originally gotten injured against the Bruins (during his great game against them) but could still play. Later that month, he was both hurt and sick in that famous Rangers game when Theo gave up 4 goals and Johnson came in but later went out that game and Theo came back in.
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Ugh, yes.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re lucky here in Colorado, because Dater is the beat writer for the Denver Post. See, you only have to read his crap once in a while – we get it daily.
Oh, and don’t take his comments about goaltending too seriously. He has a thing for Theodore, and felt like Colorado made a huge mistake not resigning him.
And yes, he is a tool.
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Forget waistline. Not only can AO probably bench press over 200 lbs, but he can carry at least 19 grown men, in full hockey equipment, on his back…
by red army line on Sep 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t “Nats Fan” and “sad” a bit redundant?
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
Seems like folks could have (and did) say the same thing about Caps fans circa 2004.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
All depends on what you look for. With hockey, it’s hard for me to understand all of the transactions and I don’t know the league that well yet. Plus I will forever be branded a bandwagoneer to some extent no matter how much time I invest in learning the game because of when I got on board. With baseball, I understand the development of the franchise process and believe we’re on it. Plus the Nats had an over .500 record this year with better prospect development. A lot of fun memories and if you buy into being an early adopter and hold them accountable it’s fun.
As always, wish there were more bridges between the non-Redskins teams in the DC market because they are all in the same boat to varying degrees.
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
wow (mvp discussion at nhl.com)
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=538784&navid=DL|NHL|home
Bryzg got shunned. >:P
You’d think he’d at least be on the “also to watch” list at the bottom
The Patrick McNeill update in the LDN article
In terms of the defensive depth on this team, not good news reading that update…even if I knew it was likely the case in terms of the timeline…
excerpt
McNeill said. "They originally told me I’d be out anywhere from four to five to six months, which is a broad range. I’m just over three months now, so I take it a week at a time and go from there.
…
“I’ve been working out my legs quite a bit, and even my cardio but I haven’t been cleared to even skate yet,” he said…"
I hope his recovery is uneventful and quick!
Wow, I can’t remember what happened to McNeill – knew I hadn’t seen him, but dang… :-(
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After the way last night ended, you’ve gotta give D.J. King a sweater again tonight, right? This is where he earns his keep, no?
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Times like that make me hope he improves his overall game so that he could be a 4th line regular, rather than just having to be in there for the muscle.
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Times like that make me wish guys fought with purpose rather than the staged sideshow crap that sends the fans into a tizzy.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
So what do you mean by “with purpose?”
I prefer a fight where both participants are A) willing, and B) aware that they are going to be exchanging blows, over a fight where one guy jumps another for a legal check.
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By “with purpose” I mean in response to game situations – something that evolves from the on-ice play and not some pre-game text message.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
OK, that makes sense, except, what if someone on the other team refuses to go when the guy on our team has a good reason to fight? I’ve seen that before, where Brashear was trying to get someone to go with him (I forget what games it was) and nobody would, possibly because there’s more potential for injury when one of the participants is genuinely angry.
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If a player is running around like an idiot and then is unwilling to answer for it (see Cooke, Matt), I fully support taking an instigator and a suspension to police it.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Right-o. Just grab the guy and ragdoll him untili he either fights or turtles. In which case he gets some rabbit punches to the back of the head.
Instigator, 5 and a game plus a spin on the WOJ…perfectly acceptable.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Especially since the guy we’re talking about – D.J. King – isn’t a sweater-every-night kinda guy.
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If a player is running around like an idiot and then is unwilling to answer for it (see Cooke, Matt), I fully support taking an instigator and a suspension to police it.
I agree with your pro-revoking the instigator sentiment, but to be fair Cooke fought 6 times last year, including accepting the first challenge from NYR and BOS players after he knew he threw dirty hits on their teammates.
Cooke has a history and reputation that deservedly won’t go anywhere soon, but he is actually answering the bell these days for his misdeeds.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Sep 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, you have an alert set up so you can come to the aid of any Penguins ever mentioned in the comments on this site, don’t you?
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
It is kind of eerie.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Hah, I was actually just browsing comments today to check for any convention talk, and I couldn’t help and I couldn’t help but take the bait there. Responding to every Penguin mention here would be a full-time job in itself.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Sep 29, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I'mma go get the papers, get the papers
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Sep 29, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for recognizing this before I could.
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
The ugly side of multi-tasking.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Sep 29, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Convention talk? Are you going—just to see our half of the WC hoopla?
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by CapitalCentre on Sep 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
no, he’s going because he wants Brooks Laich’s autograph :)
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by RedBirdie on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Naw, got offered free tickets and so I’ll probably go for a bit. I’m not big on autographs but I’ve drank a beer with Laich before and would do that again.
Speaking of drinking, I signed up for the after-party. May or may not still be out by that point though.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Sep 29, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Ulf Samuelsson — still the worst human being ever to wear a hockey jersey
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m just going to be rec’ing most everything you say today champ.
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
And I’m not necessarily “pro-revoking the instigator” – I’m pro ignoring it’s consequences when need be.
Like you note, Cooke has a deserved reputation, answering the bell against NYR and BOS notwithstanding.
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he is actually answering the bell these days for his misdeeds.
More like getting his bell rung.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
King needs to be out there at the start of the game and take a run at Lucic or whoever is their top guy since Savard is out. There’s not much point in having an enforcer unless you actually use him to retaliate.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
That’s not enforcing, that’s goonery. Make the guy who laid the hit responsible don’t get in a game of eye-for-an-eye.
by David Getz on Sep 29, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn’t discourage the act. Cooke is still an extremely dirty player despite all efforts directed against him. Think he minds getting into a fight or two when he can get away with sidelining a player like Savard for a season? (or now, seemingly, longer) No, when people like Cooke start pulling stunts like that you respond in kind. All the retaliation against Cooke isn’t going to change anything.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Mutually assured destruction, FTW!
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I was hoping for, “Love to. How about Global Thermonuclear War?”
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very good! I was just hoping we could have been on the same page to start. Speaking of which. Why weren’t you reading my mind? Did I forget to take off my tin foil hat?
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Next time! I thought I’d been lurking long enough, but not quite. I’ll catch on eventually. And might even have a relevant hockey post someday. :)
Your avatar should be tic tac toe then
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
I know – I was honestly looking for an appropriate avatar (just now) because I knew it was going to come up soon. And one of those clever tag-line-things.
I was honestly looking for an appropriate avatar (just now) because I knew it was going to come up soon. And one of those clever tag-line-things.
Would make a half decent beginner tag-line-thing.
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Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Alright – enough! I’ve caved. Bullies. And this was short notice so I would expect you to keep your critiques to yourselves for the day. :)
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by RandomID on Sep 29, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 10 recs
Rec’d for the effort.
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
(I hope that didn’t come off as a threat. You did see who that is, right?)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect tag. Are you sure you didn’t have that one waiting in your pocket.
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Well can you at least guarantee fifty?
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by capsyoungguns on Sep 29, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Machiavellian tit-for-tat results in the Caps losing AO and the other team losing…who? Is there a team in the league you’d make that trade with?
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 29, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Good thing Chara, Thornton and the other guys who can scrap for the Bruins were able to intimidate Cooke into not injuring Savard.
You either keep the threat alive of tit for tat or you keep letting guys injure stars. That is their job — they’re not going to ever back down from a fight or the threat of being run.
Enforcers aren’t worth much if all they do is square off against other enforcers. They don’t even need to lace their skates up, we can just set up a WWE ring behind the benches to see a fight. Matching up a set piece battle is altogether pointless, in my mind. You don’t win chess matches by only taking your rooks against other rooks.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Enforcers aren’t worth much if all
In my opinion, you could have stopped there, at least if we’re talking about wins and losses.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’m not sure what point you’re making, but I don’t see it as related to the one I was making.
If taking a retaliatory run at the other team’s star player becomes de rigeur, who’s in a better position? The Caps, or the other team sans their best player? Going down the list of contenders: Would you trade IR time for AO for Henrik Sedin? How about Joe Thornton? Zetterberg? Keith? Pronger? Crosby? Parise? Of course you wouldn’t. You’d make each team (the Caps and their individual opposites that day) weaker and their rivals in a relatively better position.
Guys like that back down from fights all the time. Cooke is a master of hiding behind the linesman rather than answering for all the but the most heinous of offenses. Steve Ott will occasionally take his medicine, but not nearly as often as he ought to for the amount of shit he pulls. Same thing with Ruutu or the other players of that ilk. You either make them pay in the standings, or you take out the guy that did it, but trading runs at stars makes the two teams, and the league as a whole, weaker against the competition.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 29, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
My point is an enforcer is pointless if all they’re there to do is fight the other enforcer. You either use them in the same manner that the Avalanche use Koci or the Pens use Cooke or how the Flyers play.
King throwing down with another enforcer doesn’t stop Cooke from doing anything. Wow, he backed down from a fight but he’s still out there laying dirty hits. Orpik still leaves the ice whenever he goes to check someone. Intimidation doesn’t work against players like that.
My point is unless you’re willing to do to other teams what they do to you, there’s no point in having an enforcer. Look at what happened to Booth in particular — no one so much as threw an honest punch at Richards. You either go back and try to injure the guy there or you just don’t do anything. The pointless fight between Booth and Richards months later didn’t undo anything and Richards is still out there playing questionable hockey, even if he is getting Byng nominations (go Flyers)
Staged fights to defend honor don’t undo months of IR. Either piss or get off the pot. Take the high road and avoid the enforcer totally or use your enforcer like other enforcers are used against you. Trying to straddle both and have paddy cake fights while Rock You Like A Hurricane plays over the PA isn’t actually doing anything substantive.
That’s my point — do it or don’t do it, don’t try to do both. Until teams are held accountable there will be a handful of serious injuries every year from obviously dirty play. Three playoff teams this year off the top of my head had players take a run on other teams. They didn’t seem to get beat in the standings, did they?
Take your concussions in stride or give them back twofold.
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
Your first sentence is why I think enforcers are worthless and a waste of a roster spot. But I agree with everyone else that bristles at the idea of eye for an eye.
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I’m not advocating it seriously, since it would just lead to the Verizon Center ice lined with blood and body parts. That’s the only alternative — an enforcer fighting an enforcer doesn’t stop dirty play from happening. He’s not even going to be on the ice when something happens and players aren’t allowed to come off of the bench.
What again is the point of King? To scare the other 4th liners out there?
Human existence being an hallucination containing in itself the secondary hallucinations of day and night (the latter an insanitary condition of the atmosphere due to accretions of black air) it ill becomes any man of sense to be concerned at the illusory approach of the supreme hallucination known as death.
I don’t know. Players seem to like him, the coach seems to think he gives them a security blanket. I don’t get it but I guess it’s possible that there is some dynamic that isn’t appreciable to the fans. The logic of it doesn’t make sense to me, but the old school hockey people generally seem to love those guys. I don’t know if it’s just because that’s the way it was done when they played and there’s inertia, or if there really is some benefit to having the toughest goon on your bench for 55 minutes a night.
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There is a point to having an enforcer that you are totally missing, and it’s a way that the Caps used Brashear multiple times. When things were getting too tense and it looked like a fight might be brewing, you send the enforcer out to either: a) calm things down or b) start a fight to get rid of some of the tension before someone important gets hurt. Enforcers do have their uses besides fighting, especially if they’re good ones like Brashear was – and like King seems to be.
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by timmyv38 on Sep 29, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
An eye for an eye leaves the world without depth perception.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 29, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I agree, I’ve never understood that.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s not rush to judge King just yet. Much will depend on what BB asks him to do.
He’s had 9 points in 101 NHL games thus far, a point per 10 games clip. Howver, in his junior and minor league career, he scored a point every 2.3 games or so, which would translate into a 36 point season.
For comparison, Craig Berube scored an NHL point every 6.6 games. Brashear scored a point ever 5 games. Tiger Williams actually scored a point every 1.9 games.
My point is simply that we’ll get out of King what the Caps want him to be. If they want him to score more, he will. If they give him low TOI only against the tough guys on the other team, then he’ll get a lot of PIMs.
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And I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised at the way he played last night – fighting aside. He’s not bad. He’s no Ovechkin, obviously, but he’s a decent 4th-line guy. Good forechecker, not a bad skater, made some good plays…I think he’ll be able to take 8-10 minutes in a game when they count and not hurt the team.
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Which is my ultimate hope for him. Combine that with an occasional arse kicking then he could be better in that position than Brashear was most nights his last two years here.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
My hope as well. I have too many images of Brashear just skating around looking to hit someone, culiminating, of course, with his hit on Dubinsky.
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Yes. Sorry.
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Just wanted to make sure I was thinking of the same hit.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
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this is why i wish we had a skilled tough guy like Backes (who wouldn’t) that could play on the first line with Ovi and enforce/deter real time
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by ns on Sep 29, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Holding out hope that somehow the Kings have to part with Dustin Brown sometime in the next 11 years or so..
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Backes and Brown make me drool. Backes is a free agent next summer… but there’s no way the Blooz let him go.
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I can speak for the entire STL community and confirm this.
Backes is part of a core that John Davidson now can build around including Halak, Eric Johnson, Perron, and Oshie. Backes is a likely future captain of this team. He’s staying.
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how does the STL community feel about Berglund? progressing as expected?
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by ns on Sep 29, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see a lot of chatter in the local papers or blogs, but my sense is that he’s not progressing as expected. He has flashes of brilliance, but needs to have a complete season. I don’t want to say this is his make or break year, but others might. I think he will likely play on the 2nd or 3rd line, and is a very big boy. Lots of potential.
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Thanks for the update. Liked what I saw in Berglund since Junior World Championships. Hope he pans out.
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by ns on Sep 29, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions
the staged sideshow crap that sends the fans into a tizzy.
You know I agree with you. I’m on record as agreeing with you. And yet, last night’s fight was worth a little tizzy. Apparently Stretch agrees with me — he gave us the full 60 seconds twice on the highlight reel. That was one hell of a fight. Entertaining as hell. And signifying nothing.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I cut last night’s bout a little slack for “new guy trying to make impression on team/fans.”
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I think my rule is: Don’t Fight. But if you do fight, give the fans some value. Damn, King is very, very good (at a skill that isn’t actually very valuable).
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
But it can be. He did have a positive effect on the team by fighting, and winning the bout. I would not call last night’s fight “full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” It had the effect of firing up the team, and that’s always a good thing.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
He did have a positive effect on the team by fighting, and winning the bout…. It had the effect of firing up the team.
Baloney.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
As much as the team can be fired up in the pre-season, that is… likewise the fans.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Just look at the goal scorers. Think Perreault needs any motivation right now since his job is at stake? Think Eakin needs any motivation. Think Semin is capable of motivation based on a fight?
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
A fight seven minutes into a home preseason game, no less. Any momentum attributed to that tilt is a streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetch.
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More to the point, do you think Semin is capable of motivation based on anything that occurs outside of his own universe?
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Well Semin did have the A last night. So maybe they think he is capable of motivating others, just not himself at all times? It’s interesting too how Ovie keeps saying in interviews that Semin can speak English. Its seems like Ovie is pushing him to take a bigger role.
by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Vogs commented that the two “A” last night went to the two longest tenured Caps (B. Gordon being the other), so I wouldn’t make much out of that. But your second comment, about how Ovi’s pushing Semin out, was very noticable. I don’t recall anytime before this pre-season when any of the players (or even coaches) would mention how Semin can speak (and understand) English. Good on Ovi.
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by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Sasha's future
No surprise here, but I hope Sasha re-signs for a few more years. One question still is: what does Sasha want?
For him to grow & develop more as a player & leader, he’s going to have to move outside his comfort zone some; it’s the way to challenge oneself. He can either do that here or somewhere else. To do it here, in addition to continuing to play as well as he does & improving in those areas where he needs to, he’s going to need to show leadership & responsibility.
I agree that the A last night could be no more than a nod to the longevity of Sasha & Gordo, but it also could be something more. Maybe in the exit interviews Sasha said he wants to assume more responsibility. Who knows?
He has said he is comfortable here, that he likes it here. So, comfort is important to him. I don’t think he’d be as comfortable somewhere else. He may realize that if he wants to stay here, he needs to take some risk. Sasha clearly either is terribly shy around people he does not know, or distrustful of people he does not know. Either way, here or somewhere else, eventually he will need to talk more, in English, and to the press. It may seem superficial to some, but I do think he would be perceived differently if he did that. So, I found Ovi’s comments notable, too, and took it as a subtle message to Sasha. I can’t wait to see what he does in the HBO special.
Regardless, we have to see how cap space plays out (and I hope we don’t have to go hunting for a goalie).
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Ha!
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d fight Briere.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 29, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Glad to hear that, because it didn’t sound like it to me…
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d still rather have not had the fight occur.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Will Campbell get a sweater? If so then DJ needs to be in the lineup. Sending him out there to dance with Thornton again doesn’t solve anything (other than providing some more entertainment). DJ and the other guys like Brads, Chimera, etc need to make sure Campbell knows that boarding Ovi won’t be tolerated. And Ovi needs to know that taking two handers in retailiation isn’t a good idea, or necessary anymore.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you dress DJ anyway. Bruins are the home team so Bruce has to turn in his lineup card first. We won’t know whether Campbell is in the lineup when those cards go in, so dress him anyway. Won’t hurt.
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You don’t retaliate against the person who hurt your guy, you retaliate in kind. If someone takes a run at Ovie, you take a run at their star player. Goons like Koci, Cooke and the Flyers aren’t averse to getting into a fight. The second you line up your goon against their star player you’ll keep the game much more clean the next time around, or hopefully at least have your goon catching the flak.
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That’s bush league. Take on the guy who made the hit.
by David Getz on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree that Campbell should be held to account for any transgressions. However, during the course of a game, I don’t have a problem with one team being more physical with the other teams top players in response to a stuation like Campbell on Ovi. Not “take a run” at him, but definitly finish checks and make sure he feels uncomfortable out there.
Much more of a deterrant than a “staged” bout between two heavyweights.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t the Caps be finishing hits and making star players uncomfortable anyway?
by David Getz on Sep 29, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
This. Very much.
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes. Do they do that every game, all the time?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
HA! Unfortunately you are not missing anything.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this. If, say, Orpik runs AO, what should DJ King do? Grab Malkin and beat the crap out of him? No way. That would just result in Goddard (or whoever their tough guy is these days) doing the same to Backstrom, and a big ol’ suspension for King.
King needs to fight Orpik.
Even in the bad old days of hockey, I can’t remember any star player being targeted for retribution in that way. I can remember plenty of grinders getting pummeled for having the temerity to run a star, though. I think it was Stu Grimson who jumped Berube after the Chief barely tapped Kariya, as I recall.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
/go Blackhawkz ?
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by redlineblue on Sep 29, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Is there video/angle that shows the actual shove/check?
I don’t expect to see Ovechkin in the line-up tonight and I would have said that before last night’s game.
After the fight, before the Campbell/Ovechkin stuff, Thornton and King were very chatty during at least one face-off line-up. I thought they were going to fight again (for no reason.)
OT: I didn’t read the GDT, but I wasn’t thrilled to see the Thornton/King fight given it’s the preseason. Why fight and possibly get injured before the season starts, especially if there was no obvious game-related reason.
Suspect King was wanting to fit in with the boys in the room, make a good first impression, that sort of thing?
I agree with you, I watched that fight hoping he just didn’t injure himself. And the two tough guys squaring off for no reason other than entertainment is stupid.
If he were to make sure Campbell and Boychuk have long nights tonight, though, that would be great.
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Suspect King was wanting to fit in with the boys in the room, make a good first impression, that sort of thing?
Agree, especially in front of the home crowd. You notice how Ovi made a point to skate from the bench to the box to give King some props immediately after the fight?
Also, it did appear to have a positive effect on the team. Boudreau said as much. So that in and of itself is a “reason” to fight. It fires the team up.
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The fight was King’s way of introducing himself to his new hometown crowd. He got on the ice with an obvious opponent (Thornton) and they made the arrangement, each of them knowing they had to do this. I imagine King now owes Thornton a rematch in Boston, as Thornton did King a favor by going with him early on.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with the use of the term “had” in the sentence above.
To several of the responses including this one, yes, I know why the fight happened, it doesn’t mean I have to agree with or be pleased to see a fight like that happening in a preseason game. In general, I’m not a fan of fights like this during the regular season when something in the game didn’t lead up to the event. Again, why fight and possibly get injured before the season starts, especially if there was no obvious game-related reason; I’m sure those same fans you mentioned and teammates alike would be thrilled if the result was a broken hand or other injury leading to weeks on IR. Just one fan’s opinion.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 29, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Make that two fan’s opinions.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying I like it, but the way The Code works, they had to fight in that situation. Do I agree that staged fights aren’t really necessary… I do, but as long as there’s an instigator penalty, almost all of the fights will be staged….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I also agree. These fights are not strategically smart moves. They showcase nothing unknown about the 2 guys and offer little—as I begrudgingly acknowledge the fact that many people were cheering in the video—to the on ice product.
It’s not gonna happen any time soon, but I’d be thrilled if they handed down suspensions and team fines for these staged fights. If I wanted to choreography I’d buy tickets to the Ice Capades.
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The NHL will suspend fighting on the day they make tickets free. Fighting makes them a hell of a lot of money.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t expecting a fight, but I didn’t mind that it happened. King’s postgame quotes (in one of the OFB links above, I believe) show that he thinks he’s rusty when it comes to fighting. It may sound silly, but it’s a perishable skill set and he’s had so little game time the last couple of years. I can understand him wanting to start the regular season in as sharp of form as possible.
Thornton is no slouch, either.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
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I wasn’t thrilled to see the Thornton/King fight given it’s the preseason
It’s preseason — everyone has to practice their profession. Especially the skills that got them and keep them in an NHL lineup.
Better in the preseason than the postseason.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t expect to see Ovechkin in the line-up tonight and I would have said that before last night’s game.
Right – I think Bruce said AO would get the three home games and that’s it.
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Which I’m totally fine with. What I love about Ovie is that he doesn’t really have a lower gear (or at the very least, his “lower” gear is equivalent to most people’s high gear). What scares me about him in the preseason is that he doesn’t really have a lower gear.
Tough to see him throwing big hits around last night and know the game doesn’t matter (but it was also fantastic, not going to lie).
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by Becca H on Sep 29, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You hear it all the time – when guys play at less than full speed to avoid injuries and whatnot, that’s when injuries happen.
Good for AO – he needs to be blowing people up… not playing that almost-timid (for him) post-Olympics style he was playing last year.
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The video in Corey’s recap shows the hit, and honestly I was expecting a lot worse after reading the other recaps and reactions. Looked like Campbell knocked him down in front of the net and they both slid into the boards together. Campbell may have given him a little shove after they hit the boards but he certainly didn’t drive him headfirst into them. The whole thing looked pretty harmless to me.
On another note, I don’t know what BB is talking about when he says he’s glad AO put his head down. If you are going headfirst into the boards you are putting yourself in way more danger by putting your head down. There is even the whole “Heads Up” campaign in youth hockey to teach kids to keep their head up if they go into the boards.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think it was THAT bad seeing it in person, either. Obviously it’s a hit from behind and not a play you want guys making (especially when it’s Ovechkin taking the hit) but it didn’t look criminal. 2 for boarding was about right.
I thought BB was saying he was glad Ovie retaliated – I did catch the “if he hadn’t put his head down it would have been worse” part, though, maybe he assumed Campbell tried to crosscheck / elbow his head? Can’t imagine he’d be praising someone for putting their head down facing the boards.
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It actually looked to me like he tucked his head in as he went down in order to take the impact with his shoulder more than the top of his head, which could cause compressed vertebrae, etc.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t seen the play yet, but last night, that’s how I interpreted it. “Head down” meant “tucking his head in and letting his shoulders take the impact.”
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See, I don’t even think that was a clear boarding call. AO had the puck in front and was reaching and off balance. Campbell came him and bumped him, admittedly a bit from behind, but all it did was knock AO to his knees and he slowly slid to the boards. I think Campbell made a perfectly reasonable play given where AO and the puck were. It was probably just a boarding call to even things up and not let a preseason game get rowdy late.
I’ll say this is all my opinion from watching from a single angle with no slow motion, so I’m open to the possibility that I didn’t see everything. But at this point I don’t see anything wrong with what Campbell did.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t actually think they have the boarding penalty showing in any of the recaps. The video in Corey’s recap shows the initial hit to the boards, then Ovi gets up does the little crosscheck, then skates over to the sideboard, which is where is kind of falling into them and gets the extra little bit of help from Campbell. It’s after that second hit that Ovi then gets up and whacks Campbell resulting in the coincidental minors. I don’t think either was too bad to be honest. But the second did look a little worse, but mostly it was because Ovi was already falling when Campbell pushed him so he didn’t have a lot of control.
As for the glad Ovi had his head down, I was thinking the same thing, but there was a little last minute move on Ovi’s part that appeared to change his trajectory into the boards.
by Ames on Sep 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If there is a second hit that makes more sense. The first one looks very benign.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the boarding call was along the sideboards – haven’t watched the video in Corey’s recap but if it only shows them behind the net(ish), that’s not it. It still wasn’t that bad but I’d say it was worthy of 2 minutes. The slash Ovie gave him in return was a pretty weak call but I get why they called it – retaliatory things like that generally do get penalized.
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Two hands on the stick, full baseball swing to the wrist, and after the whistle?
Thought that was a textbook slash.
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Really?? It didn’t look like a full swing at ALL to me, more like a little whack. Again, it’s a slash, but not a bad one and one that probably goes uncalled 90% of the time.
The cross-check that preceded it, however…
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I haven’t watched any replays, so I might be Andy Pettite-ing, of course. And I do agree that they don’t always get called.
My impression at the time was that it was a legit call.
The little crosscheck/shove to the back of the head is something that they let slide all the time under the “hard nosed hockey” theory.
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I agree – the slashing call was legit. It was a two-hander after the whistle. I don’t know where he connected, but it easily could have been the wrist. As soon as I saw it I knew that it would negate anything Campbelll was going to get.
That’s what I saw. It was a legit slash call. Didn’t seem super forceful, more of a “Look at me, WTF man?” than a “I’M GONNA CHOP YO FACE OFF!” swing. Still it was a legit slash call, I would have expected it if someone took it against one of our players.
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Oh, I’m not questioning that it was a slash (although the severity of it is questionable) – I’m saying that degree of slash doesn’t get called as much because it’s one of those chippy, after the whistle plays.
And again, I have no problem with it BEING called and would absolutely expect it to be called if the other team did it – the situation pretty much required it, Campbell was already going off and Ovie retaliated, no matter how benign it actually was that’s 2 minutes.
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Based on what I saw, had it not followed Campbell’s check I would have been surprised if it was.
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Worse, Campbell barely touched AO if at all. It wasn’t a dive, but it wasn’t boarding, either.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 29, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, as I said elsewhere, I did think it was a boarding call but not a very bad one – I think you have to call that every time it’s a hit from behind, even a marginal one. But I stand by my opinion that had it not followed Campbell’s hit, Ovie’s slash (or “slash”) would not have been called.
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That should be called 100% of the time and I hate when players do that.
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I thought it was a pretty vicious slash. A little disappointing, I hate it when guys do that to get even and it’s not really Ovie’s style.
I thought it was to his lower leg, and a little whack.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
It depends. Normally you’re right, pick your head up. But the absolute worst is to go into the boards with your neck perpendicular to the boards, so if you can’t get your head up because you are falling you need to duck your head even more and try to take the boards on the back of your neck/shoulder area. I assume that is what BB was referring to.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 29, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That was my assumption as well, and what looked like happened.
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The boarding happens near the 9:40 mark.
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Ah, that makes more sense. AO was still falling forward when Campbell hit him, but that is a much more reasonable boarding call.
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by Killer_Carlson on Sep 29, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I would definitely dress King. I doubt Campbell would go with King, but Boychuk might. And I agree, this is precisely why King is (or should be) here. I haven’t watched the “hit from behind” again, but my impression at the time is that AO was sort of turning away and then tripped, so it ended up looking worse than it really was intended to be. I could be wrong. But regardless, I would love it if King would send a couple of messages: One, don’t run AO (to Campbell); two, don’t think about starting any shoving/crosschecking/facewashing matches with him, either (to Boychuk).
I was very pleased to see AO cross-check Campbell to the back of the head and give him a hard slash last night. A little chippiness will only make him more effective.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
From where I was sitting (opposite corner) I’m glad Ovi ducked his head as he went down. That could have been really bad; he was already falling, and Campbell “helped” him into the boards, hence two minutes for boarding, instead of five and a game for BOARDING.
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Well, they had just gotten tangled up behind the net, and AO gave Campbell a good little crosscheck to the back of the head, so I suspect Campbell was coming back to make his own statement. That, by the way, is a pattern of behavior that absolutely needs to be deterred.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
His pops certainly isn’t going to deter such behavior.
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It’s the source of much argument with regard to whether or not Campbell Sr. can be truly objective as the disciplinarian of the NHL, and/or whether his position there constitutes a conflict of interest, which even my 14-year-old daughter can see.
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Doesn’t he recuse himself when his son’s team is involved?
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Directly involved, yes.
Indirectly involved, no.
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Like both Ovie suspensions last year. Oh, the Caps are playing the Panthers immediately after the game in question? No conflict of interest there…
Exactly.
It’s not REALITY that causes a conflict of interest; it’s APPEARANCES.
As I said, even my 14-year-old daughter can see this. It’s not a big stretch of the imagination to see it.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we had this argument several times last season, and it’s pretty silly. Considering his son’s an NHL player, doesn’t every decision he makes indirectly involved?
Yes, and yes we did. But the fact remains that conflicts of interest are based on APPEARANCE, not reality. Which IMO means he should step down from the position as league disciplinarian.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
No need to apologize; you may not see it, but some do, and that is unfortunately what really counts in conflict of interest cases.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, look, just because some people see that there is a problem, doesn’t mean that there is a problem. Some people think that Sarah Palin is the best thing to happen to politics since the ballot box, but we all know what the truth is.
Hey
Leave politics out of a hockey blog, OK?
I get enough of that bullsh** every day without having to read it on here too.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ah, right. Was thinking of AO’s pater familias, and not seeing how it fits in.
And, yeah, C. Campbell isn’t going to deter squat.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
He’d damn well BETTER remove himself from any decision involving the Bruins this season, too. Or a game the Bruins played in.
It’d be better if he removed himself from the position entirely. Him being in that position just plain looks BAD. Bad for the NHL, bad for the conspiracy theorists, and in any other business, he would not have that sort of a position because he’s in a position to discipline teams and players that play against his son, and his actions could be construed as trying to help said son’s team win (even if they aren’t – and I do not for a second believe that he looked at the schedule and saw the Caps were playing Campbell the Younger’s team the next game both times he suspended Ovechkin last year.) However, appearances do count, in any other business, and conflict of interest is based on appearances as much as it is on reality.
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I feel like we’ve had this discussion before…
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw it, thought about rec’ing it, then I got distracted.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I made up for it! I was your first rec, and now you have 4!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet fucking Christ, not this again.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 29, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I’m glad Ovi ducked his head as he went down.
Actually, ducking his head is the absolute last thing he should have done. Doing that puts him in danger of serious spinal cord injuries.
Does anyone else here remember the old PSA posters with Ron Wilson and Paul Kariya – “Heads up – Don’t Duck?”
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Going into the boards with the top of your head is more likely to do so though. Generally, ducking the head is a bad idea – but not when the alternative is top of the head hitting.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
Ducking at all is the wrong thing to do – just keep your head up. It’s counter-intuitive, but it’s the proper way to go into the boards.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Going into the boards with the top of your head is a good way to break your neck, or get some other spinal injury – which is how Ovie was going in. Instead, he hit with the back of his shoulders. Any other situation, I’d agree with you – but not with how Ovie was going in. And to be fair, he didn’t so much duck his head as turn his body.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I think that’s a good point. When you’re falling forward already, lifting up your head is going to result in a face-plant into the boards (snapping your neck back in the process). This was more of a tuck-and-roll attempt so he could hit his shoulder or back instead of his head or face. Either way, we can all probably agree that when you’re already falling headlong into the boards, a shove from behind is not helpful.
Going in with your neck bent at all downward is a bad idea, whether it’s the top or the back of your head. In that position, your spine is compressed an unable to handle much stress without something snapping.
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. . .
Ovie was lucky that his momentum carried him through to the point where his head wasn’t the first point of contact. Had that occurred maybe 6 more inches toward the boards, or had Campbell really pushed him hard, that could have been ugly.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
OK, you are officially the Robert Shaw to my Richard Dreyfuss (in the Jaws scar competition). I’m going to trust your experience here. Heads up – Don’t Duck. Got it.
The faces in the crowd on that top shot are priceless. The hit, not so much.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Kuznetsov have a injured shoulder and will be out of Traktor’s lineup until at lest October 5th.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Oh noes.
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Eh, it’s a week. I’m much more concerned about what made another, closer Russian a last-minute scratch last night.
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Related to that a little: Corey said Holtby’s shipping up to Boston tonight?
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Makes sense – he was in the building last night, obviously all is not 100% with Varly.
Related: I was a little surprised Holtby didn’t get more pre-season action, so there’s at least that silver lining.
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Dunno. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
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Vogel’s update post-game linked above indicates the decision will be made today as to which goalies are heading to Boston, but I think it’s a safe guess that it will be Holtby and Sabourin. Whether they split the game or one of them gets a full game, who knows.
While I agree with JP, not a good sign, but if there is anything going on it does make sense to sit Varlamov. And given Neuvirth played the game last night and it’s the preseason, it doesn’t make sense to have him travel when there are 2 other goalies available for a road preseason game.
Varlamov has shown he’s sharp out of the gates and it’s no secret he’s the starter going into the season.
Having Neuvirth have to jump in at the last second after working hard in the morning, and bringing in a guy to backup at the last second are certainly things the coaching staff would expect may happen sometime this season based on history and see how that goes, as well as know that their backups are prepared for this possibility.
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by Wheeler on Sep 29, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To find his wooden leg?
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously concerned. I get the whole, “it’s pre-season, if he’s not 100% let him sit” part, but he’s played what, half a game so far? I’d like to think he had an upset tummy, but it doesn’t sound that way now.
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Yeah, what’s going on with that? I’d heard “ill,” but recalling Holtby? That’s a bit nerve-wracking, even if it is pre-season.
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Just what was going around last night. “Not feeling 100%” according to Boudreau – apparently got construed into “sick.”
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You put ill in quotes, so I wondered if it was from any specific source. Basically, I’m looking for someone who said explicitly that it’s not groin-related.
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Oh, no, ill in quotes was as in, a quote, someone said, “he’s sick,” rather than any kind of implication. Sorry about that!!! I am looking to see what I can find; apparently there was something on Vogel’s blog, but I haven’t found it yet.
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"Maintenance, general maintenance," says Boudreau when asked why Varlamov would not start tonight. "Not feeling 100 percent."
That’s the direct quote from Boudreau off of Vogel’s blog… but that’s the only semi-official channel I’ve found so far. Usually when you say “not feeling 100 percent,” Boudreau means “feeling unwell,” as opposed to “in pain/hurting,” just from listening to his speech patterns. He came right out and said Flash was hurting, so…
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Yeah, that’s not enough for me to say “not groin.”
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Not really for me either. :-(
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If he was sick, i.e. flu/cold, I bet Bruce would have screamed it so everyone could hear it. The lack of specificity from anyone in the organization has me thinking “groin” and “tweak”.
by b.orr4 on Sep 29, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Caps PR told me it was just a cold so I wouldn’t worry about it.
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by cobracg on Sep 29, 2010 12:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But now I read it is an injury, hmm.
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by cobracg on Sep 29, 2010 12:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Going to call it disastrous again, are ya?
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 29, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I construed “not feeling 100%” to mean he has a body part that is hurting. The vague reference, the lack of further information…it all smells like an injury to me.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
See, I’m wondering if people are seeing the worst. I’m hoping “not feeling 100%” means he got a bad batch of sushi and would rather be curled up in his goalie pajamas in the corner than he hurt himself again.
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Effed if I know… :-/
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Where the Eff is TEB on this?
We don’t know that either. :-)
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If you really don’t know, where have you been hiding all summer? ;-)
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I know. Still bummed.
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I’m actually liking Katie. Bummed that TEB left, but Katie’s doing a good job.
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She’s certainly writing a ton. While she helped TEB some prior to her taking the beat this is her first year on the beat. I always thinks it takes most writers a full year, sometimes two, before they truly hit their stride and gain the trust of people around the team. I don’t think you’ll see her breaking many stories until next season.
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smells like an injury
Does it smell like a groin?
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Sep 29, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Going from memory here, but Varly has missed time with injury to his groin and his knee, right?
Those would be my initial suspects, but who knows?
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Yes to both counts. Groin initially, then knee when he was at the bottom of a dogpile in Hershey on his conditioning stint. The knee was the worse injury of the two.
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I saw Varly walking around down in the Caps tunnel in his goalie pajamas, for whatever that’s worth.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Are “goalie pajamas” different from “defense pajamas” and “forward pajamas?”
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Yeah, they have little Vezina trophies all over them. ;-) And they’re footie PJ’s. Very cool.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good lord, October 5th is just a week away. That means October 8th is only a week and 3 days away! YESSSSSSSSSS!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
Caps recall Holtby. That explain his trip. http://bit.ly/a5yJOo
Maybe he and Sabourin split time against the B’s.
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Holtby is likely going to sit on the bench while either Sabourin or Varly plays in Boston…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Varly will not play – that’s why Holtby was recalled.
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I’ve been away from my desk and haven’t seen anything on Twitter, but I believe you are right.
If Varly has the sniffles and is ready to go, he plays in Boston and no need for the recall.
It’s clear to me that it will be Sabourin, Holtby or both.
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Just listened to Olie with Elliot. I couldn’t do a report justice, but he was awesome. If you missed it, you should listen to it when they post the podcast.
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His bitter departure kind of spoiled his legacy, to me. Same with Bondra. My two favorite Caps of all time, up until they left.
Olie could have accepted a backup role and endeared himself to his fans even more, then rode off into the sunset. The way his career ended sucked, like Bondra’s.
by S h a g g y on Sep 29, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
He really couldn’t have, not without forcing out Johnson and it wasn’t clear that Olie was better at that point. It was the team’s decision more than Olie’s.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 29, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Olie wouldn’t even have been a backup the following year. The Caps saw that his skills had declined and it was time for him to retire. Olie didn’t. BJ was the way to go.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Bondra knew he was going to be traded in 2003. When they started moving players that year, he knew he had value and that he would be moved. That the Caps landed Brooks Laich…well, that trade pretty well worked out.
Speaking of which, there are all new wall art along the Arena walls on the main concourse, with a photo from the past and a player from the present… they had one with Peter Bondra in the background and Brooks Laich as the current player. One that really was awesome was one with Gustafsson in the background and Nick Backstrom as the current player….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
But I don’t blame him for that. If there’s one thing this team has always had trouble with — even pre-Boudreau — i’ts treatment of goalies, IMO.
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Pat Riggin & Al Jensen both agree that one of them wasn’t treated well. Just wouldn’t agree on which one.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love Olie as much as anyone, but he was d-o-n-e by the time Huet rode in to town. He needed to retire, and the Caps offered him a position within the organization, IIRC, for the next year. I don’t fault the Caps for how they handled the Olie thing.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
That Olie quote put a big smile on my face. Can’t wait to hear the whole thing. The wounds will mend.
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by RedBirdie on Sep 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks! This makes me so happy.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 29, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Re USA Today's SCF predictions
An amazing (at least to me) 10 of the 12 panelists have Washington winning the East, but only 3 of them predict WAS will take the Cup. I guess that’s, er, predictable.
and Darren Elliot smoked a big doobie before making his predictions.
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There is nothing outrageous in Elliot’s picks… All of the players and teams he picked have legitimate shots to win what is indicated. Maybe he leaned a little heavy on Boston, but it’s not like he picked Atlanta to win the Cup, beating Dallas in the finals…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He was at least drinking heavily at McGreevys.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Washington is a good choice (perhaps the best choice) to come from the East, but there are teams out West that will give the Caps fits. I’m not sure San Jose is one of them, because the Caps can probably get them into up-and-down games, and if you play that way with the Caps, you lose a lot more often than you win. Detroit is a team that can give the Caps trouble, as can Chicago, althouh the Blackhawks were better defensively last year than they look to be this year (Turco is a big step down in goal…)
I can’t see how Vancouver could beat the Caps in a seven game series…sure they have Luongo, but against a team like the Caps in a series, he might have a save percentage of .910 and still allow over 3.5 goals a game…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Detroit is a team that can give the Caps trouble, as can Chicago, althouh the Blackhawks were better defensively last year than they look to be this year (Turco is a big step down in goal…)
FWIW, the Caps are 4-0 against the Wings and Hawks the last two years.
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by Scott in Shaw on Sep 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not true. They lost to the Wings once last year. The other win was one of Jose Theodore’s best games – the Caps were badly outshot and yet he managed to stop enough pucks that the Caps were able to poke a few through Jimmy Howard.
Osgood was in net for both games.
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I remember only because I thought it was extremely odd that Osgood was tapped for the January game. Howard was clearly the #1 by that point, and Babcock decides to throw a rusty Osgood out against the streaking Capitals? Didn’t make any sense to me. Almost like Osgood was set up to fail.
Of course, for a while, it seemed like the Caps were gonna help Osgood out.
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IIRC that was the Jan. 20th game Bruce described as “boys among men” and Babcock described as “opportunistic” and it wasn’t clear whether he thought that was a good or bad characteristic of the Caps.
Theo stole that game for the Caps. I’ll never forget his grin when he got a standing ovation during his interview after getting the first star. He was “three or more” no more.
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I love watching the Caps beat the Pens every single time, but if you ask me to name my favorite game of 09-10, I’m going to say Caps vs. Red Wings in January (and believe me, I loved Snovechkin!)
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FWIW
Not much. Both those teams can sit back and take away the rush, which is really all you need to do to beat Washington (plus get solid goaltending). And then both of them are stud Corsi teams. Washington needs to be more responsible on the attack. They’ll have zero margin for error against them, I think, barring an injury to, say, Keith or Lidstrom.
by red army line on Sep 29, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i don't know why exactly
but i was convinced this morning that Semin will re-up for 3 more years before the season ends.
If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is.
I would love to know what GMGM offered him before he signed the 1 year extension.
by S h a g g y on Sep 29, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably a cup of tea and a cracker.
OH you mean contract-wise..
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
I’d have guessed Wodka and a Pall Mall.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 29, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m convinced he’ll re-up for 3 more years late next August after much stupid drama
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Worse, I’m saying Semin thinks he’ll be the next Kovalchuk. Which, since he isn’t, will be the source of the drama.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Greeeeaaaat. It’ll be Kovalchuk-lite, to be honest – less money, fewer years, but with the same great taste and annoyance level of 2010’s “drama”.
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Hopefully not. I don’t see GMGM trying to play with the numbers to make a long-term contract work. At least not in a way that will necessitate league review. Kovy’s problem is that he thinks he’s in Ovechkin’s league ($100 million contract range). Let’s hope Semin is more realistic. Nicky’s contract should help to put it in perspective for him. Of course, with Semin, who knows what he really thinks/feels about his worth? I have a feeling that whatever discussions take place will be done quietly and without media drama. At least I hope so. Then again, I also hope we can keep him.
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Nice to see A. Gordon getting another game. Kind of surprised he’s only played one of the first three, as a bubble player.
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Is he subject to waivers this year? I forgot…
For that matter, is Perreault?
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes and no (for now), respectively.
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For now?
OK, hoping A. Gordon makes the team, and they don’t try to Bourque him, because I do not want to lose him to Pittsburgh on waivers.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Also, as of when do waivers start to apply?
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Saturday is what I was looking for. :-)
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My bad – “for now” = “all season.” Thanks to sk8 for clearing it up for me.
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Totally agreed; can’t wait to “see” what he does tonight. I really like A. Gordon a whole heck of a lot.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
After all, we don’t want to lose a great tweeter/blogger, right? :-) But honestly, I like his game and his attitude. Maybe he’s closer to staying with the team as the 14th forward so they’re using his playing time to evaluate the centers?
"It's always good to have vikings."
It’s his attitude I really love.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Question for everybody
So was I the only one thinking, “dammit, Brooksie,” for a lot of the game last night, or was Laich having trouble out there hanging onto the puck and doing timing plays?
I realize the swap at center might have something to do with the timing plays problem, but he was having a real problem holding the puck a lot of the time that I saw him; it would go right past him, between his feet, or he’d miss grabbing the pass… it looked like our Brooksie had a rough game last night.
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Agree with you that Laich looked rusty. Thought the same about Knuble.
Also thought Semin was largely going through the motions.
All of the above doesn’t bother me a whit. It’s the preseason, they all need to get their timing and rhythm back.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Oh, I agree, though Semin did get something done last night. Laich was a -2 on the evening, which is not characteristic of his play…
My concern is that the chip on his shoulder from last year’s post-season will fall off and bite him in the arsenic and old lace…
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Semin’s goal came when the B’s inexplicably stood there and watched him sashay into the circle. Once there, he used the weapons he’s got. If they had made even a token attempt at a check, I’m pretty sure he’d have either passed or had another shot blocked.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Why is -2 not characteristic of Brooks’ play? He’s way overrated defensively so it’s not a huge shock that he’d be -2 if anyone would be.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 29, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brooksie didn’t have a particularly good game and neither did Semin aside from the goal, but I’m willing to chalk a lot of it up to rust for now. Mike Knuble didn’t look sharp either FWIW.
I thought Knuble looked fine. He had one or two bobbled receptions, but he also had a couple of great passes.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
He looked a little slow but overall not bad – and I chalk the “slow” perception up to the fact that he was skating alongside Ovie and Perreault instead of Ovie and Nick. Not that Backstrom’s not fast, but…
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Took Grandpa Slippers a little while to get out of the gates last year, right? I’m not worried about Knuubs.
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
neither did Semin aside from the goal
Isn’t that your standard Alex Semin game?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
No, he looked more disinterested last night. I thought he tried harder on the PK though.
by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 29, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Semin is generally consistent on the PK, if there’s one area you can count on him it is that. Anything else is out the window.
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One thing I saw that I really liked: Chimera made a lovely power move to the net on the PP. Tried to stuff (and the goalie thought it was behind him) but I think it trickled out the other side and just wide.
Would love to see the Beast go to the net with authority more this year.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
New crazy theory: Varlamov and Fleischmann for some defensemen.
I have a twitter.
Not another Capitals blog!
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"
Again with the tinfoil hat theories?
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I’m bored and stuff, don’t judge me!
I have a twitter.
Not another Capitals blog!
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"
If you’re bored I suggest reading rather than writing, at least in this forum.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Is it so impossible though?
Whatever. I’m out.
I have a twitter.
Not another Capitals blog!
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"
Aside from the Crazy Theories, I too thought “Hmm. I wonder what V and F could fetch us.” My first instinct is that I’d instantly be disappointed in what they could get us. But then I thought the same thing at first at the Clark-Chimera trade. But then I couldn’t think of any names, needed food and ended the thought…
Everything sounds smarter in Tikkanesse....
When guys are pulled prefatory to a trade, you get nothing at all from the coaches or staff. “We just wanted to see what [X] can do, and this seemed like a good opportunity…”, etc.
You definitely don’t get vague (in Varly’s case) or specific (in Flash’s case) indications of injury/illness.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Prefatory? That’s two minutes in the big word penalty box, FD.
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perfunctory? Peremptory? Still wrong word choices.
“Before” would make sense. The simpler the better.
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That would be “Occam’s Razor.”
I’m in a correcting sort of mood today.
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D’oh! (is that spelled correctly?)
He said the phone in his limo is busted...what is you...ignorant?
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Boudreau on Perreault, pre-game:
“I don’t think [Perreault] will be in awe of those guys. That’s why I’m putting him up there. Sometimes, you put guys in that position and they go, ‘Oh my God, I’ve got to get the puck to Ovi.’ And that was the greatest thing about Nicky. He didn’t give a crap. He was playing his game and if [Ovi] was open, he’d get him the puck.”
Perreault, post game:
“Every time I get the puck, like ’Where’s Ovie?’ I want to get it to him.”
That just made me chuckle.
Ovie was feeding Perreault a lot last night, actually.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Except the Perreault quote is incomplete – I heard it in full on WTOP this morning. Can’t remember the exact wording, but he said something like, but I have to play my game, and passing when I have a shot is not it.
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
that was the greatest thing about Nicky. He didn’t give a crap. He was playing his game and if [Ovi] was open, he’d get him the puck.
Bit o’ revisionist history here – Nicky has most definitely been unselfish to a fault at times during his first three seasons (but maybe that’s “his game,” regardless of linemates).
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And here we go.
cmasisak22 Boudreau says Varlamov injury is minor, but they don’t want it to get worse. Says Flash/Green are fine and could have played tonight.
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Yeah, where have we heard the words “minor” and “injury” as they relate to Varly before? Like right before he sat out a month last season?
Fair point…but at the same time this could be why they’re being so cautious with him. Sometimes a minor injury is a month-long thing, sometimes it really is a minor injury.
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And rarely is it not at least somewhat worrisome when dealing with a guy with a rather full medical chart over the past few seasons.
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Could be, but Varly’s history says no injury is minor. I’ll believe it when I see him on opening night in Atlanta.
Well, exactly. I’m all for them making sure this STAYS a minor injury and doesn’t turn into something worse. No need to rush the kid back at this point like we might have in the past, it’s still preseason.
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And further to that point, FWIW, from Bruce today:
“You read around how many injuries are taking place in training camp, and we still got 31 guys. There’s just no sense in taking any chances. Anybody that has a little tweak, a little pain, a little ouch, we’re just giving them maintenance days off.”
Sounds like they’re a little freaked out (and rightly so) by the rash of injuries so far in preseason, particularly among goalies. Good for them – this is one case where being cautious is a good thing.
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Eh, it’s speculation that everything is fine and they’re being over-cautious and it’s speculation that things aren’t and they’re spinning it. Let’s talk again in a week.
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Let’s talk again in a week.
Wait…don’t you mean “let’s talk again in April”? You’re straying from the party line!!!1
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Well, surely that will be the next line we’re fed:
"You read around how many injuries are taking place in October, and we’ve got plenty of NHL-caliber guys. There’s just no sense in taking any chances. Anybody that has a little tweak, a little pain, a little ouch, we’re just giving them maintenance days off."
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This site is proof sir, that you are really a Romantic. Admittedly, one who has seen far too much of the grim side of things. What you need sir, is appropriate theme music. Cue the Alan Silvestri piano bit!
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Verizon Center improvements
What’s everyone’s take on the VC upgrades? The changes on the lower concourse are very noticeable. Not just the cool-as-hell photos of past/present players, but also the beer vendors standing at every other tunnel or so, the food options looked a LOT better. I was stoked when I saw a Green Turtle concession stand right at my entrance (116). There was even one with an all-kosher menu it looked like. Don’t remember that one being there.
AT&T signal was much better too, though the smaller crowd might have had something to do with that.
What about the shelves over the urinals? Money?
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by J.P. on Sep 29, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Loves me the shelves over the urinals. They have them here at Busch.
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I want equality – need a place for women to put their beer, too.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Um. The floor next to your feet?
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Ewwwww. Besides, the real response is you’re asking for it to be knocked over. I realize you don’t frequent the ladies room, but it’s not like there’s a lot of floor space in the stall.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Then the answer is a shelf just above the toilet paper dispenser. I’ve seen those in various stalls.
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Really, this is a silly place for this discussion, but that “shelf” is that actual dispenser, and it’s not flat. Unless you’ve been in a different ladies’ room from the ones I’ve been in.
"It's always good to have vikings."
No, they sometimes also have the fold-down metal shelves above the dispenser (mostly in airports) where you can place your purse, etc.
I didn’t mean to suggest they were there, only what one option might be.
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Thanks. I thought I might have been imagining things.
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I’m still not understanding the problem. First you finish your beer, then you use the restroom, then you buy a fresh beer.
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by CapitalCentre on Sep 29, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
This makes the most sense. Thanks.
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With the crowd at Verizon, you get the beer first, or you’re going to miss a good portion of the next period. Anyway, for me personally, it’s not that big of a deal because I’m good for one beer at a game (if that).
"It's always good to have vikings."
Ditto for me.
Beers are so freaking expensive at Verizon (or at any professional event for that matter) that I will buy one right before the puck drops. Then I am glued to my seat for the rest of the game, even between periods.
Have I mentioned that I hate waiting in lines? That feeling also contributes to my never leaving the stands.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
In the STL, they are $8.50 per at both Blues and Cards. Can you top that?
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Given that one beer at $7.50 actually equals two 12 oz bottles (less for specialty beers), I don’t have a big problem with the price.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Ehh, when you’re just graduated from college and on a tight budget its hard to justify spending $7.50 on a Bud Light/Coors Light to yourself (no disrespect to people who enjoy Bud Light, I personally don’t care much for them). Tickets are enough money as it is, even with the Caps having some of the cheaper prices out there.
Of course I moved to Maine at the end of last season, so I’m sure by mid season I’ll be willing to spend anything to go to a Caps game.
Does anyone remember Nationals games at RFK? The beer cost more than a bleacher ticket ($5). That was awesome.
And jordan, I like the way you think. I’ve utilized that option a time or two in the past.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 29, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Bud Classic/MGD is a decent beer and you can get a 24 oz. draught for $8.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 29, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Still got the 5$ bleacher tickets.
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Really? Damn, last time I went cheapest I could get was $10. Still a good deal though.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 29, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
5$ day of game. You got to get there a little early, but not that early when you know the crowds aren’t going to be too much.
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by souldrummer on Sep 29, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
True dat. In fact hold the pee. The game is more important.
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by capsyoungguns on Sep 29, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll hold your beer for you. Yup, you just leave it with me and I swear I’ll be right here outside the ladies room waiting for you when you are done….
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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
There was even one with an all-kosher menu it looked like. Don’t remember that one being there.
It wasn’t and the guys who run the stand are serious about the “kosher” aspect. They even separated the Hebrew National Dogs from the rest of the food and kept them in a different warmer because they don’t qualify as “true” kosher dogs.
Did they have two sets of chafing dishes and two sets of tongs? Were the prepared in two separate kitchens? Were chili cheese dogs available?
If the answers are yes, yes, and no then I’m very impressed. :)
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Gosh darn dashes!
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How does a Hebrew National Dog not qualify as “true” kosher? Rat content?
(Sorry, I don’t do hotdogs if I can help it!) ;-) The question is actually serious; the snark is not. :-)
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by IRockTheRed on Sep 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
No rat content. However, if you ever want to stop someone from eating hot dogs, take the on a hot dog factor tour.
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Kosher has to do not only with the content of the food itself, but the preparation thereof.
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Yes. Hence my comment about being prepared in separate kitchens.
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Right – I was just clarifying for IRTR.
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Oh, I know it’s all about the preparation; I was wondering how the Hebrew National dogs were prepared that made them not count as “real” kosher, since they have the K-in-a-triangle symbol on the packaging.
The rats were a joke; you can’t be sure they were killed in a kosher manner. I referred to rats as a reference to Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle. :-)
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That was my question to the owner and he said that for strict observers of kosher, Hebrew National is considered “kosher-like” and then he started laughing. Not being Jewish, I’m not sure what he meant by that but I gathered there’s a big difference between Hebrew National and true kosher dogs.
Probably not. The hot dogs themselves are likely kosher in preparation
However, kosher is more than the food themselves. For example, if you serve them on the same plate as something dairy, that violates kosher law. If you cook them in dishes used ever for dairy or non-kosher food, that violates kosher law. If you eat them the same time you eat dairy, even if prepared separately and served on separate plates, then you violate kosher law.
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For the record, it’s a challah roll.
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by STLSpidey on Sep 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ah…but it’s not about that. Hebrew National are not considered kosher by all Jewish sects, apparently. Has nothing to do with preparation in proximity to non-kosher foods at Verizon, at least not in this case.
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Then if not consider kosher, all of what I wrote below is irrelevant. Got to be kosher to start with.
Who knew?
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Kosher laws and certifications have been issues for years. There have actually been some scandals involving the issue. In addition, just like with other issues involving religion and laws interpretations vary.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
There are levels of kosher. Some foods that are kosher the rest of the year are not considered kosher during Passover. You can tell by looking at the different symbols.
That is because those foods typically have ingredients related to leavened bread.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
They were very serious about all of that. In fact, when I was talking to tone of the wners of the stand, his partner was bitching about the Hebrew National dogs even being allowed in the vicinity of the rest of the food.
…that’s strange, I was always under the impression that they were kosher. They have the kosher symbol on the package and everything.
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I think he meant that the kosher foods are too close to the other non-kosher foods. Hebrew National dogs are kosher — although I don’t think they’re very good.
As JP mentions above kosher doesn’t just mean what is in the food, it is also how its prepared, stored, and served. The laws of Kashrut are quite detailed.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 29, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Boston roster for tonight
“The Bruins also announced their 20-man roster that will play against the Capitals on Wednesday night (7:00 p.m. ET, TD Garden, RADIO: 98.5 The Sports Hub):
FORWARDS: Patrice Bergeron, Gregory Campbell, Jordan Caron, Nathan Horton, David Krejci, Milan Lucic, Brian McGrattan, Daniel Paille, Mark Recchi, Michael Ryder, Tyler Seguin, Blake Wheeler
DEFENSEMEN: Matt Bartkowski, Johnny Boychuk, Zdeno Chara, Andrew Ference, Matt Hunwick, Dennis Seidenberg
GOALTENDERS: Nolan Schaefer, Tim Thomas
PLAYERS NOT SKATING IN WEDNESDAY’S GAME: Brad Marchand, Adam McQuaid, Tuukka Rask, Mark Stuart, Shawn Thornton
INJURED NON-ROSTERED PLAYERS: Marc Savard, Marco Sturm, Trent Whitfield"
Loooks like Boston is out for some serious payback. Good, I want to see what some of the young guys can do against a legit NHL roster.
That’s definitely more of a varsity roster than what we saw last night.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
gotta say, I’m pumped to see Seguin.
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by bigonetimer on Sep 29, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta say, I’m pumped toseehear Seguin.
No video tonight, remember?
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oh, right. In my mind’s eye I guess… : )
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Awful pun…
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IMO, it’s not about payback. This about Boston dressing their team for a preseason home game before heading on an extended overseas roadtrip and last night was about giving some of the vet guys a night off and some time at home before the trip, plus some letting some guys compete for the last roster spots for the trip.
Ah Trent Whitfield. I still rememeber his first career goal with Washington back in the spring of 2001. It was in that “miracle” comeback against Ottawa. Caps were down 5-2 heading into the 3rd and won 6-5 in regulation. Trent scored the goal to make it 5-4. It was a good shot from the face off dot and he was being tripped as he shot it. He saw it go on and was celebrating on his back while sliding into the end boards.
He was really pumped for it because he had come close a bunch of times the few weeks before but had hit the post, gotten robbed, and on one occasion it just glanced off one of his linemates….it was great.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
McKenzie said yesterday’s guys cleared waivers. Looks like no one claimed Aucoin.
You had me at no problem.
I wonder if every waiver player hopes to be claimed by someone else, or if they hope they don’t, just so they don’t have to make any big changes?
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 29, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is that with very few exceptions, every single guy who is waived would rather be in the NHL than in the AHL.
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In most cases, if they’re on a 2-way contract, then the NHL is the place to be. On a 1-way deal, it’s not as important. Someone like Aucoin, who has been with the Caps organization a few years, might want to stay with the Caps organization because he knows he has a shot to be on the big club if there are injuries and that this is a good team. Plus he also likely has a home in Hershey and the fans know (and love) him there, and that counts for something too…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Ask Aucoin if he wanted to be plucked off waivers and given an NHL roster spot elsewhere in the League and I bet he’d (diplomatically, of course) tell you he would.
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I’m not. Few teams need a fringe skill center at this point. Most have young guys they want to give a shot to or established players there. Where would you see him as a fit on an NHL roster?
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I think we tend to get attached to the guys in the system, and I’m sure it’s the same with other fanbases. So we ascribe certain sentimentality to the players. But I can’t imagine any player would rather sit in the AHL waiting for a callup than get claimed by Edmonton.
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Well, being center for Alex Ovechkin why Nylander signed here, right? I’m sure people would want to play with Hall, Paajarvi, and Eberle, or Nash, or Sutter, or Gaborik, or whoever, given enough money and the chance to take the roster spot he wants.
by red army line on Sep 29, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Nylander has been loaned
…according to the Rochester Amerks beat writer,
Nylander loaned to Rochester (AHL)
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Ooh, that’s interesting! They play the bears four times. I wonder if Aucoin will outscore Nyles in the AHL this year.
Sadly, the Wolf Pack don’t play the Amerks this year. Redden vs. Nylander would be $10 Million on the ice at the same time.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hershey plays at Rochester on Oct 10, Rochester’s home opener (second game)
Rochester plays at Hershey for Hershey’s home opener (ring ceremony, banner, etc.) on Oct 16
That’ll be a hard day to be Nylander…
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
(the banner ceremony day)
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
This was the surprising part for me.
It’s a significant move because the Panthers will be paying most or all of Nylander’s $3 million salary.
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I’m waiting for clarification on that aspect in terms of how much. It won’t surprise me if Florida is picking up the tab for a portion of his salary, but I just wonder how much and I know from other chatter, I’m not the only one wondering. The strange part about the way the CBA is worded, trade a player and you can’t share the cost of the player, but on loan to the AHL or Europe, nothing says that the team receiving the player can’t pay a portion of the salary.
I find this hard to believe
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, this needs a bit more fact-checking before it is to be believed – “most or all” is likely an inaccurate representation of the agreement.
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Precisely why I used the word ‘part instead of ’fact’. What team in their right mind pays anywhere close to 3 mil for an AHL center? In addition, the Panthers had some leverage since the Caps needed to loan him to someone to clear out his cap space. I could see the Amerks picking up somewhere around 500-750k tops.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
Looking back at some of that exchange — how the hell as a reporter do you put something in your story that makes so little logical sense without double-checking it. It’s like Oklobzija doesn’t understand the business side of the team he covers at all. If you’re a journalist and the source says something like “and the Amerks will pay most if not all of Nylander’s story”, isn’t the natural reaction “wait, say that again… are you sure of that?”
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
And now we know where the money for the new urinal shelves came from.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Questions on the Nylander deal. If FLA wants to call him up, they need to “acquire” him, not just borrow him, correct? That means some sort of trade, with the Caps demanding equal value…i.e. take Sloan with you and we’ll call it square.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 29, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes – Nylander is still a Cap. They can’t call him up – they need to trade for him.
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Nylander
Are you sure about that? According to Yahoo!, “Washington can recall him whenever they want.”
UPDATE: George Richards clears up the salary situation via On Frozen Pond.
Washington will cover his entire $3 million salary as this is a straight loan — with the Panthers paying the Caps a nominal fee. Washington can recall him whenever they want.
So, why would the Caps pay his salary and send him to the Panthers affiliate instead of the Hersey Bears? Probably because the Bears are already loaded with veteran guys.
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That is unbearable.
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by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 29, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I have the urge to smack all your heads together. Bear.
…did I do it right?
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by Becca H on Sep 29, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Might not actually need to sign up, just the link ...
… which was revealed right on the site after signing up. Some “exclusive” secret! Thought there might be a code or password, but no, just a link. And now published here for the fine Japers’ Rink crowd.
Eakin = Draper
Does anyone else see Cody Eakin and think Kris Draper 2.0?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I’ll admit, I don’t know much about the specifics of Kris Draper’s game (beyond the fact that he was a great depth guy for the Wings during their Cup runs) – what in Eakin reminds you of Draper?
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Speed, size, tenacity, sneakily-good shot, ginger-ness.
I could also see comparisons with Todd Marchant, for essentially the same qualities.
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I like it. And given that list of qualities (including the oh-so-crucial ginger-ness) I’d have to agree. I’m hoping for big things from Eakin, he’s been so impressive.
Of course I was saying about halfway through the game last night that I hadn’t really noticed him much…and then he went and scored. He showed me.
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If Cam Neely was the prototypical power forward, Draper was the prototypical grinder. Played for just under a century, took less than 1PIM a game and was the heart of one of the most dangerous lines the Red Wings had despite them probably not all even adding up to putting up 1 point a game average.
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Darren Helm is just a poor man’s Kris Draper.
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Helm could have been Kris Draper had the Wings not had Kris Draper. Helm had to wait for a spot that Kris Draper had in the Wings’ line up…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
a little early to throw in the towel on Helm—he’s 23.
Another similarity between Eaks and Helm? Both from Winnipeg.
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Haven’t thrown the towel in on Helm at all. Just saying he could have been Draper sooner had it not been for Draper. Helm will play (barring injury ) a good 10-12 seasons in the NHL. Whether it’s all with Detroit remains to be seen, but the Wings do keep their players around for a long time.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree in terms of the skills Helm brings to the table, but I don’t think Eakin doesn’t play with as much “anger” as Helm does. That can change of course….
Let’s hope he has a career as long as Kris Draper and as successful for the Caps. Draper is a player who goes out, does his job for 16 years, and then when he retires, everyone will remember he was a heckuva player. The same could be said of a player from every era (Ron Greschner, Don Awrey, Bernie Federko, Carol Vadnais, etc.) Not hall of fame players, but good enough to play at the NHL level for a very long time.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 29, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I have not yet seen Eakin drinking Scotch and sleeping with his secretary.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 29, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
if Cody Eakin’s kid takes a dump in the Stanley Cup and he’s still a Cap at the time, I’ll cheerfully take it.
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You didn’t hear about that? Kris Draper put his baby in the Stanley Cup and she did what babies do. Of course, for this to happen to Eakin while he is a Cap requires that the Caps win the Stanley Cup.
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I hope Draper got pictures. His daughter will love that when she’s grown up. (Not of the poop, of her in the Cup!)
I think it also requires him to have a kid, right?
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Eakin was born in 1991, so it’s not even possible for him to have a kid yet.
(What’s that you say? 1991 babies turn 19 this year?…
…
I’m old.)
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes it is possible. What, you think age of majority and/or marriage is a requirement?
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Sorry. I have friends and relatives who have become grandparents much too young.
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Ha, you want to feel old? Galiev was born after the Soviet Union ceased to exist.
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I don’t know why I saved it, but here she is.
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by RedBirdie on Sep 29, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Eakin has more puck skill than Draper, and maybe more flat out speed by the time he reaches the NHL. I think the red hair is throwing you…
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Both Draper and Marchant were consistent double-digit goal scorers despite getting almost zero PP time and usually playing against the opposition’s best players.
If Eakin turns into that, we should be ecstatic.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Why are people projecting him as a grinder? He strikes me more as a skill guy
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s just what I saw from him last night, and that’s what he projected as before his goal-explosion in the W last year.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
But he had the goal explosion. Shouldn’t that change things? I thought he looked like a skill guy last night, but he was playing with grinders and he’s very physically immature so he wasn’t wowing in the offensive end. Draper never showed anything close to the scoring capability that Eakin has shown, even in Juniors. Helm has a 41 goal season in the W, but considering we don’t even know where he is going to top out at the NHL level I’m not sure it’s a particularly enlightening example.
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Draper once scored 24 goals in the N. Sure, it was a ridiculous outlier, but the guy wasn’t useless offensively. As far as Eakin goes, he doubled his goal output last year. I’d like to see him do it again before I’m going to anoint him as a skill guy. He was drafted as a third-line type of player with upside and I think that’s where he’ll eventually settle.
When I watched Eakin and Johansson last night, I got the distinct impression that Johansson was on another level skill-wise. Eakin was straight-line fast – Johansson was quick in all directions with the puck on his stick and he made it look effortless.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Johansson is clearly the better player, but that’s not a fair comparison. I also don’t see how you’re being so dismissive of Eakin’s increased production last year, especially as you tout Draper’s one good scoring year. Don’t forget, he missed a ton of time his draft year so it’s not like the lower numbers were solely related to his skill level. I know people have projected Eakin to be a third line type player, but I’m completely unconvinced that he was drafted to be a third line type player. I think GMGM sees a skill guy in there, and I think that’s precisely why GMGM drafted him. And I think if he makes a career in the NHL it will be as a skill guy, not as a grinder.
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If he’s on the Caps in the near future, he could be a skill player and STILL be a 3rd liner. Of course, 2 of our 3rd liners this season will likely be 2nd line types, so that’s not saying much. I’m curious to see how Eakin plays when he fills out a bit more – he has grit along with skill right now.
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If the Caps acquire a 2C or Perreault or Johansson claim that job, you could see:
Ovi – Backstrom – Knuble
Laich – 2C – Semin
Flash – Perreault/Johansson – Fehr
that’s three skill guys on the 3rd…
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree, that’s why using just “third line or second line” is inaccurate. Draper, if he were on the Caps, would have been a 4th liner that could fill in on the 3rd for spot duty. I think Eakin is the kind of guy that can play on any of the top three lines when he is finally physically mature enough to play in the NHL.
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I think you’re underestimating how much I value players like Draper. Guys capable of scoring 15-20 while killing penalties and playing tough minutes are seriously valuable.
I think you’re labeling Draper a simple grinder, whereas I see him as a kind of uber-grinder with skill, which is what I see Eakin turning into.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
So you see Draper as a poor man’s Zetterberg and the difference between the two is one of degree rather than composition? I guess I can get behind that. If Eakin falls into that mold, I’ll do cartwheels down F Street in celebration.
I’m in total agreement with you that guys who can play the tough competition and still score are very, very valuable and that their boxcars never reflect what they actually contributed to the team.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 29, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Kris Draper’s scoring contribution is basically like Jason Chimera’s. That’s not exactly great offensive production, and then factor in that Chimera didn’t have nearly the offensive players around him, nor a system that allowed him to attack. I think Draper is one of the best checking players of the last generation, but I don’t think his offensive skill is much above replacement level.
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Berube's boxcar never reflected his contributions...
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 29, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not about value for a particular role, it’s about who is a better player. I think Eakin has more skill than Draper ever dreamt of having. I don’t think Draper would ever have been adequate on a scoring line, and I think Eakin can and will be. Either Eakin doesn’t have much of an NHL career, or he’ll have far more 20 goal seasons than Draper.
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Honestly, the longer they keep Eakin in training camp, the more I think that he’s going to get shipped out at the trade deadline in a package for a big-name D-man or a center.
I’m sure that part of GMGM’s thinking right now in keeping all of these guys around is that if they need to trade away a center at the deadline, they have lots of guys who they’ve showcased against NHL competition. It also doesn’t hurt that one of them is the Captain of his junior team and is a nice western Canadian kid with leadership potential and grit.
by Wheeler on Sep 29, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn’t really have a problem with that. He looks good, but he’s not bluechip. We have other guys that could play C so he’s not in a position of need. If he continues to look good, especially when he goes back to the WHL and then in the WJC I could see some interest in him. He’s exactly the kind of secondary prospect that GMGM hasn’t moved in the past, but could bring in a quality player to help us win a Cup.
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Dmitry Kugryshev struggled mightily during a five-minute conditioning skate at the end of practice. He labored through sprints and took a knee on numerous occasions.
I’m starting to think he just has terrible anaerobic and cardio recovery. You can’t skate\lift that much and be in such terrible shape.
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That’d be my guess as well. You can only improve those areas so much before you hit your natural limits and some people are just more athletically gifted than others.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 29, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I see no one posted it, so… GDT is up. And since I don’t know how else to post it… http://www.japersrink.com/2010/9/29/1719730/game-day-open-thread-caps-bruins#comments
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