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Admit it, you linked to that Greenberg CI post for this exchange:

this is what happens when you have some geek who has too much time on his hand play with numbers… quality starts?

Greenberg, any relation to Mike Greenberg?

THIS is hockey, NOT starting pitching in baseball!!!

Posted by: joek443 | September 26, 2010 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Comments like the one above are why people have moved to JapersRink.

Good analysis Mr. Greenberg.

Posted by: GMUCAPS | September 26, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 27, 2010 7:41 AM EDT reply actions   3 recs

I plead not guilty (you know I don’t read the comments over there).

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by J.P. on Sep 27, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s just wicked. Linkee with no readee!

Whew though. Today’s posters were particularly ignorant and inflammatory. Although I don’t know why I was surprised. There is a group at CI that foams at the mouth whenever statistical analysis is discussed. They are of the school that hockey unlike every other sport in the world should somehow be immune from statistical analysis. And today they needed work on their reading comprehension as well.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Linkee with no readee!

Oh, I read the article. But as I do with Puck Daddy, I rarely read the comments.

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by J.P. on Sep 27, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was teasing.

I think I have to just read the article and stop skimming through those posts though. I think having a statistical piece at WaPo is a great idea but the reactionary attitudes by some—not all—of the posters can get my dander up sometimes. Especially on a Monday morning.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a group at CI (and there’s some intersection between that subset and the anti-analysis subset) who are eager to be the “know it alls”, the big fish in the little pond. They’re usually wrong, and those who actually know anything know they’re wrong, but arguing with them is like teaching a pig to sing – a waste of time.

I used to post there under a different name than I use here, but other than the occasional snide remark, I don’t waste my time anymore. A shame, but since all the really smart people off of CI came here, it’s not so bad.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know. What can I say? I’m a slow learner. But at least I’m smart enough to spend most of my time over here. Even if I read more than comment.

Over at CI sometime last week I suggested that some of them should check out Japers’ and one guy actually wrote no way because they are all Schultz lovers there. I almost wrote that if he came on with Schultz sucks then yeah he was going to get hammered, but if he tried to make an argument about why he held that opinion he might get an interesting dialogue. But then I remembered I was reading CI and didn’t bother.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I might have asked “do you guys love anyone here except yourselves?”

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has turned into a reflecting pool cabal over there. There’s no real dialogue. They just parrot each other’s views and take an overall dark view of the Caps and shout out dissenters.

I’m just as nervous about this season as other Caps’ fans but I also feel that it’s okay to take pleasure in the Caps. A great photo of Nicky with the puck or a great quote by Professor Brads or a video of Ovi charming the media again with his quips and gap toothed smile can make my day.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It has turned into a reflecting pool cabal over there. There’s no real dialogue. They just parrot each other’s views and take an overall dark view of the Caps and shout out dissenters.

1. Schultz is awesome; check these advanced stats
2. Semin is inconsistent
3. Semin is underappreciated
4. I’ll be back in April; the regular season doesn’t matter
5. You didn’t study enough vocabulary in college to get all of our jokes

I’m snarking, but there are over-generalizations to be made anywhere.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Well true. I am talking about a small group of frequent commentators who are quick to shout out anyone with a dissenting view. There are a few whose posts I like to read and some I mentally z right through. And there are brand new posters who are testing the waters so to speak. I expect to see more contributors on all Caps boards and blogs etc as the Caps popularity grows.

All I want on any board is a willingness to discuss and to keep it polite. I always respect someone’s right to have an opinion even if I disagree.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

The thing that really kills me over there is the invective lobbed towards GMGM. I have my issues with him (he’s poorly managed a couple of assets, he’s given out a couple of bad contracts, and he’s made some trades that, in hindsight, weren’t that good) but when you win the President’s Trophy icing a team composed almost entirely of players you drafted and prospects that you traded for in a rebuilding effort, you did something right.

by Wheeler on Sep 27, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I still think that they do it because they think it makes them sound intelligent.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well and it’s those little things that make me love the Caps, not their winning record. They’re just a fantastic and entertaining group of guys, both on and off the ice.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the truth. Several regulars from there have moved here this year. There’s a few good ones left, like Tom in So Cal..

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could be worse, it could be the politics section of the Post. Over there it’s considered an erudite conversation if nobody threatens to commit an act of extreme sexual aggression against a fellow commenter.

That said, I’m a fair hand with STATA and Numbers, and I try not to get too bogged down by calculated results. It’s too easy to get the results you’ve hypothesized—instead of the correct info—just by how people were thinking about the data beforehand. Which is where many (reasonable) fans lose faith in stats. But pretty much everybody here explains their thinking vis-a-vis stats computation. —wow I just had a whole conversation there all by myself…where r my meds again?

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, you’re making sense. Where the analyses get interesting is where the stats disagree with qualitative analysis (“what my eyes see on the ice”), and why that might be the case. Very often, qualitative analysis is colored by the expectations of the viewer; at the same time, quantitative analysis is often similarly colored (as in “lies, damn lies, and statistics”). The truth, as always, is somewhere in the middle between the visuals and the stats, and the trick is finding the balance point.

Unfortunately, humans tend to be drawn to extremes, and thus the middle ground gets lost.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are so bleeping wrong! Just wrong! excuse me, I have to go impersonate an ostrich!

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Make sure you stick your butt high in the air so I have a clean target. :D

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol, so many ways to go horribly wrong, it’s difficult to choose. “Butt” I do agree about the middle ground. It’s been a fairly consistent experience for me that the most useful data is that which I have found in someone else’s research when they had ZERO interest or foreknowledge of what my interest/hope might be. Mind you, I’m talking about psych studies now, not sports stats. I don’t spend much time having any strong feelings about the latter.

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see much difference between the two. Our perceptions and expectations color everything we see. That’s just how it is, and the only way to get true unbiased information is to get it from multiple sources and to realize that we ourselves color our own perceptions without realizing it.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not me. I’m know I’m on the side of right, Damien Cox told me so!

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey, you try typing with two cats in your lap.

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Because while our perceptions/expectations color everything we see, stats only cover so much. You need to use both, weigh them against each other, and make a judgment call. But sometimes that’s just asking too much, apparently.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere here should be a good Nietsche quote about truth vs perception but my brain is still in a slow mode.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Crazy thought – we need something better to talk about than posters on another blog.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Amen.

So… what the heck happened to Vancouver last night that they got curbstomped by Edmonton? Jeez, 8-2? Ouch!

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by IRockTheRed on Sep 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Taylor Hall and Magnus Paajarvi are really a pleasure to watch. I’m not as impressed with Jordan Eberle, but I haven’t seen him make any giant mistakes, which is good for a guy that Copper and Blue thinks will be a star in the NHL based almost entirely on good hockey sense.

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by red army line on Sep 27, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

One team was evaluating actual players who might end up with the NHL team, the other was icing a team of guys headed to the AHL.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Has Cody Hodgson played yet?

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was playing last night, but I’m not sure. I was flipping back and forth.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was, yeah. At least that’s what I heard driving in this morning.

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by Becca H on Sep 27, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, he played last night. +1 with 2 SOG and 5 more missed or blocked in 17:40 of TOI.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 in that gong show? That’s a pretty good game.

by Wheeler on Sep 27, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Watched a couple of periods last night. The twins, Lou and others had the night off. Khabby played the whole game, and very well (no doubt trying to win back favor from the home crowd) .
Eight goals by Edmonton, and not a single point from the Rooster. : (

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by bagace on Sep 27, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rooster had the same problem he did with us – he got chances but couldn’t get them to go in. It’s not like he can’t score on Schneider – he did enough of it two years ago in the Calder Final. Maybe he locks up?

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

But thanks for the great set of links here. Good way to start the week. Should keep me away from my other work which I don’t really want to do anyway.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I moved to Japers for the free coffee and doughnuts.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on Sep 27, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Comments like the one above are why people have moved to JapersRink.

Good analysis Mr. Greenberg.

Posted by: GMUCAPS | September 26, 2010 5:59 PM | Report abuse

While I’m happy for the sentiment expressed, I’d prefer it if the CI commenters stayed put.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

You may not realize how many of the commenters that contribute here came from CI. I recognize more than a few.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know that many people here originally came from CI, but those who have already made the jump aren’t the problem. I look at the remainder of mouth-breathers over there and it gives me the willies when I ponder them invading the comments here.

I also remember the previous “explosions” in commenting around playoff time and how long it took this place to get back to normalcy.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look at the remainder of mouth-breathers over there and it gives me the willies when I ponder them invading the comments here.

Bravo sir…nothing like a good much needed laugh from a Monday morning mouth breather comment.

by Yoshietree on Sep 27, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m especially aggro because I had to ride the bus this morning.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d for keeping the JR elitism alive.

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by Scott in Shaw on Sep 27, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s only because I hurt my foot and can’t ride my bike.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why don’t you just have your manservant ride your bike for you?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

What dire necessity demands you travel outside of your palatial estate? The only time I leave mine is to attend Caps games. And only then while leaning from the front edge of a gilded seat.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 27, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

My manservant is rather mischievious

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Recubus’d.

"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."

by Bald Pollack on Sep 27, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I thought I’d never see the word “aggro” outside a WOW blog!

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by can't skate on Sep 27, 2010 12:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I suspect that the ones that aren’t have been silenced by the ones who are. Most reasonable people will conclude, for example, that arguing with cstanton1 is like talking to a brick wall. Several others are similar. It’s just not worth the indigestion, so the smart ones lurk and the conversation gets carried by the load of stupid.

The problem is the individuals who think that being negative about everyone and everything makes them sound somehow erudite.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

erudite

Here we go with the big words, again.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I ain’t dite. Who’s asking if I’m dite?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 27, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely was over there for a good bit 2 years ago. Far too many people getting in posting wars like they were commenting on a youtube video for my tastes. It’s like night and day coming over here. I’m frankly awed by how much some of you guys know about the entire organization and farm system. Need to step my game up haha

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by Davethecapsfan on Sep 27, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I’m sure more than a few commenters here share your views on CI posters, it really doesn’t promote growth of this blog. I know more than few CI posters than are in here and a few of them over there now would fit in very nicely here.

Part of the reason they choose to stay in CI and not move here is partly, if not mostly, due to the above comments.

I mean aren’t we all Caps fans?

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on Sep 27, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

On the rare occasion that I actually bother to scan the comments there, I’m appalled by the lack of civility, the inability to form rational arguments, the absence of spelling or grammar, and the overall tone of downright hostility toward other posters.

I commented to the Post staff about this very thing – that the CI comments would benefit from a moderator and a few revised rules. The response I got noted that they had been toying with exactly that idea. We’ll see where it goes.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

eating cat food….that may explain some things over there.

and before someone jumps on me, I was once a very active CI poster. The combination of paint huffers there and the switch to the discussion-friendly SBN format here prompted me to make the jump.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

moderators are usually more active than we ever realize, but i really think the SBN threaded format is key. for ease of conversation, obviously, but also to call out people for their obnoxiousness, ignorance, whatever. the format would scare me away if i weren’t interested in real conversation.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schultz is a master of karate and friendship for everyone.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It’s always sunny in rec’adelphia.

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Many such as myself started there, then followed links over here. And there are a few regular CI posters I wish would make the jump. However there are a few I would hate to see here—but those posters don’t really care to support their position. Commenting here especially in the more analytical threads takes work. Gotta make a good argument. And the self policing here is excellent. More Caps fans will come and those who can adapt to the Japers’ standards will remain. The others will be just little blips on the radar. They will move on.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

That poor kid probably never got to see him play in the NHL :(

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Bondra finally moved to a composite. I bet he’d break more sticks than Ovie if he were still playing.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damn, he looks good in the new colors, too.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was the first thing I thought.. We need to get him some new gloves, though.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of, you still rocking the white gloves?

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You bet.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I call you J. Edgar?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

J. Edna.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And another photo where the player looks like a gorilla if you ignore the stick.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

So Hartnell is the most advanced gorilla since he looks like one while holding a stick?

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by sydtron on Sep 27, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has learned to use tools.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere there’s an image of Hartnell and the Geico caveman side by side. It’s eerie.

Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go Flyers!

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by sydtron on Sep 27, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

…Is it just me, or do they look like twins?

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by timmyv38 on Sep 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s insulting!
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by b.orr4 on Sep 27, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Hershey Camp Trio...

My guess is Finley will be the only one to make the Hershey squad.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on Sep 27, 2010 8:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Gustafsson will. Finley? Not sure. Godfrey? Leaning “no” (but health of other guys could make a difference for him).

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by J.P. on Sep 27, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhat related.. hasn’t Hershey carried like 9 defensemen in recent seasons?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on the situation, at times, yes, especially at the beginning of the season and then after the clear day roster deadline, but in general Coach French does not appear to like to carry a lot of extra players during the season; he’s said as much in an interview or two, as well, so I wouldn’t expect them to carry 9 healthy players if they were relatively healthy. With Patrick McNeill not ready to start the season and Miskovic questionable (good sign to see him participating in Capitals practices,) some guys are going to get an opportunity to start the season with Hershey who otherwise may have found themselves in SC, up to them to play to force Hershey to keep them on the roster.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Slightly related, I was looking through my Calder Cup Finals notes and P-Mac played the EC and Calder Cup Filnals with that hurt shoulder. Scored TWICE in Game Six with it too.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is Miskovic taking contact now? Last time I saw him, he wasn’t…

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by IRockTheRed on Sep 27, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

All I know is that last practice he participated in the entire practice from what I observed; I didn’t see him sit out any drills or leave early. Based on Masisak’s morning updates, he is practicing with the first group this morning and there are only 6D in the group; 12D left in camp and practicing in 2 groups with cuts coming later today. Whether Miskovic is 100% cleared for contact and games, I haven’t seen reported, but likely yes, and if not, he’s getting close from the looks of it.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome! Thanks for the update. :-) I like Miskovic, though unless he’s replacing Sloan or Erskine (unlikely in either case), I don’t see him making the team this year, since we’ve been told they’re only planning to carry 7D…

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by IRockTheRed on Sep 27, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll admit I like Miskovic myself. Guess I’m partial to the college educated guys who were Math majors since I was one also.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was in full practice on Friday.

Bruce had everyone do sprints at the end and, unsurprisingly, Miskovic finish last. The team gave him an ovation when he crossed the line.

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by oldemystix on Sep 27, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Based on what Leone is saying about the likelihood of Andrew Gordon being grabbed by another team if he’s sent down, it seems the Caps are faced with a few options. Send him down and hope he makes it through, trade him so they get something for him or send either Perrault or Johannson down since they’re exempt for being claimed. I’m guessing MP is the most likely candidate for the ride back to Chocolatetown based on how McPhee has been pumping MoJo’s stock all summer.

by b.orr4 on Sep 27, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

GMGM’s history is to use that option rather than risking a player who could be snatched up. See the 09-10 travels of Karl Alzner. Matty just needs to understand that he’ll be back.

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by bagace on Sep 27, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

In his post Predators game interview, BB seemed to hedge a bit as to whether MJ90 was making the club. (Someone else will have to find the link and post it) But basically he said something about how fast MJ90 and Cody are, and that they’ll be great NHL players (“someday”, or later, or something similar), and it’s possible he may have just been referring to Cody.

Based on this interview, Mackan does not appear to have any plans to go to Hershey:

http://blogg.expressen.se/nhl/entry.jsp?messid=623274

If he goes to Sweden, maybe MP can stay up with the Caps.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that is more “I’m not even thinking about it because I’m so focused on NHL,” and less “LOL no way.”

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if Mackan doesn’t make the team – regardless of whether he then goes to Hershey or Sweden – wouldn’t MP conceivably be able to stay with the Caps? Really the only reason MP doesn’t stay is if Johansson makes the team, taking away a roster spot. Where Johansson goes after not making the team wouldn’t seem to be an issue…

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by Becca H on Sep 27, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless Aucoin shocks the world, this would seem like the likely scenario.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the management would rather go with one of the kids (i.e. Perreault or Johansson) than Aucoin.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s my take. Only two out of the group of MP, MoJo and A. Gordon can stay and with Gordon likely to be lost on waivers, it’s really seems to be between Perrault and Johansson. Should be interesting to see how it plays out.

by b.orr4 on Sep 27, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only matters in the sense that MJ90 could be recalled from Hershey, whereas if he goes back to SWE we don’t see him again ’til next sommar.

But either way, his absence makes room for both Matty and AGord.

Though the intrigue’s not over yet – Matt Hendricks is still hanging around….

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, it is possible to recall a player from Sweden although less than ideal situation to do so. Since it would be a loan, it can be worked into a loan agreement and if the NHL team got in a jam due to injuries, they could recall the player. As an example, I posted the other day about the Dallas Stars and Wandell a few seasons ago.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It does happen, but rarely. The AHL is the shuttle league — the SEL and other European leagues, I think, have the understanding that if a player is sent there after not making the cut in the NHL, he’s there for the season.

by RCheli on Sep 27, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I understand the League relationship, I am simply noting that there are circumstances under which it is possible to recall a player from Sweden while the player is on loan.

Of course, it is also less common for a player to be loaned to a European team than it is to be in the AHL.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good to know it’s possible, but would seem a bit unlikely for a player who is still “developing.”

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If they made arrangements at the time of the loan and if injuries resulted in a need, it’s possible and that’s all I am saying; I’m not saying it would be an ideal situation or that they would do it.

Again, see the Wandell example with the Stars…he was a developing prospect, who had already spent a year playing NA pro hockey before going back to Sweden via loan.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am hoping that Mackan stays mostly because I think his upside is greater than MP’s. I haven’t googled translated the interview yet but I am hoping that Mackan will be willing to go to Hershey if he’s not ready to make the team. My take on what I’ve read about Mackan is that he needs time to adjust to NHL style and he needs to be here in order to do that.

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by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Upside for this season? Long term, or both? I’d for sure agree with long term. But for the season, I’d give MP the nod.

Hope Mackan is willing to spend a year in PA.

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by Steve-R on Sep 27, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, the thing that’s making me lean toward Mackan right now is that he’s been effective killing penalties this preseason. He was solid in the first game and then led the forwards in SH TOI last game. And of course, the PK unit still hasn’t been scored on.

We’re looking for a 3C here, not a 2C. If and when Boudreau decides that Flash ain’t the right fit for 2C, I’d rather see Perreault there. But I like the idea of having Mackan play for the NHL club in a role he’s clearly already comfortable with after his SEL experience (defensive center) while he adjusts to contributing on offense at the NHL level.

Either Chimera-Mackan-Fehr or Laich-Mackan-Gordon would be a pretty sweet 3rd line (depending on whether Fehr or Laich is on the 2nd line and whether Semin is an LW or RW)

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 27, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I tend to agree with you on this one. I love MP, but he really has to score to be effective, whereas Mackan could contribute in a number of different ways. For the purpose of short-term scoring, MP is the way to go, but I’m not so sure that’s exactly what we need at this point.
Finding a way to get them both in the line-up would be great, but that won’t happen without moving some bodies, which could always occur as the season progresses.

by 4terpsfans on Sep 27, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mackan + effective killing penalties = likely to stay with Caps.

The Caps need all the effective PK they can get, given their recent terrible track record in that department. (Okay, by recent, I mean last season.)

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was out of touch over the weekend, is A. Gordon still in DC?

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

yep

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Backstrom failing to display his arlington county sticker makes me so angry I have to start a blog about what a terrible human being he is. What’s swedish for, “Burn the son of a motherless goat!”?

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 8:17 AM EDT reply actions  

I was issued a similar ticket for not having an Alexandria sticker. Good icebreaker?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Better than asking Sasha what kind of kids he has carousing unrestrained in his vehicle.

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by boutros23 on Sep 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw a comment on OFB that his sister has kids. Apparently in Russia they don’t require kids in safety seats?

While in college I was a poor working slave in the McDonald’s drive thru. I actually saw a lot of little kids come through unrestrained. It was disturbing.

by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 27, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kids should always be restrained.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

With ball-gags.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m just looking to keep the little ones quiet. I’ve got like 15 nieces and nephews and they’re loud.

I’m working on an electric shock collar for children. Still don’t have the voltage right.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Skip a step and just use the battery. The big, heavy battery.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

low voltage, high amperage

He said the phone in his limo is busted...what is you...ignorant?

by NJNJ on Sep 27, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was assuming he must have been transporting nephews or nieces since it’s reported that his sister has kids.

I have no idea what the child restraint laws in Russia are but my guess is they’re less restrictive than in the US. (The child restraint laws here have gotten so much restrictive this past generation.) The restraint laws became even more restrictive after my kids had outgrown the need for them.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey they mentioned at least three Caps in their “even celebs get tickets” piece. That’s good from a popular culture standpoint.

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by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by Sjomin on Sep 27, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok I still had google translate open from the MarJo article Emily linked above so I put in your comment for fun. But I think something got lost:

Burning up the company’s motherless son!

by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 27, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Try running it through the Finnish translator. ) :: cough ::

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey! bilingual… trilingual!

by Sjomin on Sep 27, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure it’s not FLYGPLATS.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 27, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin got a speeding ticket at the end of last season and paid a fine. So, I guess the cops have favorites!

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by Backeez Got Back on Sep 27, 2010 8:23 AM EDT reply actions  

He actually challenged another ticket successfully, but the judge gave him two minutes in the witness box for diving.

by Wheeler on Sep 27, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wait wait wait wait wait.....

Semin? Got a ticket? For not having a child in a proper child seat? What?

What child? When? Was is Neuvy?

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by bilspacecadet on Sep 27, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing, our friends at OFB wondered if the kid was Varly. (Well, we certainly have the tender aged ’tenders, to say the least.)

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Birthday to the original lumberjack. Did not know this prior but per Wiki, Mulvey was the original owner/developer of the Reston Ice Rink.

Also, some old timers may be able to confirm or deny this, but I swear i remember that back in the late 70’s early 80’s, Mulvey was on the of the Caps who did a Sassoon jeans commercial. I know Ron Duguay and the Rangers did one too. But I am almost positive the Caps had one w/ Mulvey, Garts, Pierre Buchard and one other guy around the same time. Can’t find any YouTube evidence of such a thing, which pretty much guarantees it didn’t happen. Sure hope I didn’t just imagine that cause that would be wierd.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 27, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I don’t remember a Caps jeans commercial (although Mulvey’s mustachioed face would fit right in). I did remember, though, how his NHL career ended. Pretty pitiful.

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by RCheli on Sep 27, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

And just for reference, here is a video clip of that event.
 
And here is a short interview of Mulvey (that gets cut off) about it.

by marky narc on Sep 27, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I recall correctly, the instruction from his coach was to “Get out there and I don’t mean to dance”.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Mulvey coached the Reston Raiders for some time, as well.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 27, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reston Raiders

BOOOOOOOOO!

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean WOOOOOOO!

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by Steck It Out on Sep 27, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate cowbells to this day.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do eventually become some of a nuisance at Caps games, though I do own one. I took it once and the guys sitting nearby gave me dirty looks for the rest of the night.

Now it’s happily collecting dust.

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by Steck It Out on Sep 27, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re a good man and a better fan. Thank you.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two Mulvey memories...

1. Caps down big to the Rangers, Mulvey plants himself in the crease and either deflects or distracts the Ranger goalie for 4 Caps 3rd-period goals and the win. If he’d made the crease his home he’d probably have had a better career. 2. First minute of a game against the Canucks, Mulvey is pounding a Canuck in the corner (Harold Snepsts?). Canuck goalie leaves the crease and jumps on Mulvey, starting the usual bench-clearer. The goalie? Glen Hanlon.

It’s all wrong, but it’s all right.

by OldPhil on Sep 27, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember reading about Mulvey being a developer of the Reston Ice Rink. That’s one of the places I regularly go to ice skate. And it’s now the home of the Reston Raiders hockey team.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Belanger article:
The worst part of this story is that Belanger was previously represented by Pat Brisson, one of the best agents in the league, a guy who has credible Sidney Crosby, Patrick Kane and Jonathan Toews among its customers. He left Brisson become one of the first customers Tacopina.

Any idea why he would do that? Why would you leave one of the better agents for one who’s just learning the game (it’s been previously mentioned that Tacopina was in a law firm, no?)

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by Steck It Out on Sep 27, 2010 9:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe he wanted less or something.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

My guess (and it was simply a guess) from when I looked at the agency website was that Belanger may have a connection to Philippe Bureau (based on the Sherbrooke info.,) one of the guys working with Tacopina.

If you want to read about Tacopina there is plenty on the Internet and plenty linked from his law firm site and the agency site.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

SBN Login Issues

Is anyone else having login issues with SBN since they updated the site?

I’ve now got to log in every time I get on SBN, even if I’ve told the computer to remember me.

FWIW, I’m using the most recent version of Firefox, but this is happening both on my home computer (Mac) and my work POS Wintel machine.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:04 AM EDT reply actions  

I’ve been having the same problem using the same browser and its driving me insane.

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by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so weird to get on in the morning have “zero” new comments. . . it takes me about 2 minutes to figure out that I’ve been logged out…longer if I haven’t had coffee yet.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too. I think I started having that problem yesterday.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, same here, and same on Mac and Windows.

by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Sep 27, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t checked my (Android) phone yet, but I imagine it’s the same thing.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have the same problem with Chrome but my trusty Blackberry never logs me out!

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by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have fewer problems at home, but yes, it logs me out nearly continuosly on both my machines.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

SBN has been making a lot of back-end updates, which might explain some of it, but…

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok. Good to know it’s not just me.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t seem consistent for me. Sometimes I click the bookmark and I’m in with no problems, other times I come to the site and see no new comments because I’m not logged in. Doesn’t seem to matter whether I’ve closed my browser or not. Totally random.

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by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same. I just stop the page loading, go to login (where it saves my info), and then log in. Not a big problem for me.

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by red army line on Sep 27, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same issue here.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 27, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Article on Puck Daddy about having a quota of Canadian players on Canadian NHL teams.

I don’t agree with the idea of this quota. Is there really a problem with the following of Canadian teams that something like this would need to be implemented? They actually think Canadians are less interested in watching hockey because some of the players aren’t Canadian? This is confusing to me. Americans seems to have no trouble with having a large majority on Canadians on their teams and few, if any, American players. Logistically I see no way this quota could be implemented anyway. I can’t think of quota systems in any other professional sports. They pretty much just take the best players available.

by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 27, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m of the opinion that such a thing puts the Canadian teams at a disadvantage. They’re hamstrung by the quota and may be prevented from icing the best team available.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Quota systems are pretty common in Europe, both in soccer and hockey.

I’m not a fan of the idea. I want to see the best players in the world, regardless of where they were born or what passport they hold. If a team decides it should go after a certain type of player because of their fanbase (i.e. Montreal acquiring Quebecois players), that’s their business.

by David Getz on Sep 27, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the difference is that the European quotas are based on the geographic area of the entire league. The NHL is a North American league, so a quota of North Americans might make sense, but not Canadians.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 27, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Japanese baseball caps the number of foreign players at 3. The point of the cap is to ensure that native players have jobs; without it, every AAAA player in the US would head to Japan and compete for MVP honors.

I don’t like the cap, but I can understand it.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right — that’s exactly my point. It’s a Japanese league with a maximum number of non-Japanese players. What I find really weird about this idea is that there are different rules for different teams within a league. I just don’t see how that makes sense.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

The whole idea is dumb. I mean, are Canadians in danger of being washed out of the NHL without a quota?

They aren’t. Of course, they aren’t going to return to the halcyon days of the 1970’s, when 95% of the NHL was Canadian, either.

This is just a vehicle for mouth breathers in Canada to reaffirm that “this is our game”.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mouth Breathing Monday.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Continuity FTW.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

What next? Reinstate the Habs’ right of first refusal to the first pick out of Quebec?

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s pretty much urban legend, FWIW.

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by J.P. on Sep 27, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

And be subject to year after year after the year of the Habs winning the Stanley Cup ad-nauseum.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

And people…coughDamienCoxcough…wonder why Canadians are sometimes viewed as xenophobic.

by Yoshietree on Sep 27, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

coughDamienCoxcough

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because he always has to have the last word, you know.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was responding to a tweet that was THREE HOURS old. Stalk much, Damien?

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

hey now, Damien should be commended for taking a few minutes out of his busy Sidney Worship schedule. Nate should feel honored.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nate really needs to block him. Not that it would matter, of course.

However, I am getting a kick out of his skewering a politician about parks vs pavement. The tweets show up on nhl tweetmix. He just sounds like such a nimby or something.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, nice use of nimby there.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter blocked here at work. What’s Cox’s tweet say?

by Cluster on Sep 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

@nateewell Timely sucking up to the boss. Atta boy. And a little jingoism, too!

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jingoism? Pot kettle black, Mr. Cox.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

and unless Nate has suddenly become employed by the UN the term “jingoism” is being misapplied. I hate it when people misuse a word so frequently and for so long, that the wrong definition becomes the correct definition.

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

people misuse a word so frequently and for so long, that the wrong definition becomes the correct definition.

I hate that too! I used to always correct people who say that such-and-so is “very unique”. Well, turns out, even the friggin’ dictionary says that it has been used to mean “unusual” for so long, it’s now an official alternate definition. Gah.

/OT

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 27, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

mute point

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have an open door policy for my employees.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had written a list of common mispronounced phrases that I hate, but of course, SBN didn’t like it. Among them was mute point, for all intensive purposes, irregardless, etc.

I can’t help but assume someone is an idiot when they use “for all intensive purposes” in conversation.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Camping is intents.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and you gotta compose off-line, man.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be far too much effort.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Mute” point is a rinkism, obviously.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand when stupid language is a meme. But I’ve heard mute point used in conversation… same with intensive purposes.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Irregardless, it’s still wrong.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could care less.

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was a person in one of my gen ed courses in college that would say “too also” in every sentence. As in, “I like the color blue, but I like the color red too also.” I wanted one of us to die, just so I wouldn’t have to hear it anymore.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Sep 27, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

My neighbor in college pronounced ‘crayons’ the way someone with non-regional diction would pronounce ‘crowns.’

That she is now a teacher makes me fear for the youth of this country… and not because she pronounces ‘crayons’ funny.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s a very ironic point you make.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

While he bothers me on a continual basis…this one particularly irked me.

http://twitter.com/DamoSpin/status/24692764814

by Yoshietree on Sep 27, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s best ignored.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 27, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

I’m not sure what, if any impact it has on Canadian viewership, and frankly, Canadians are going to watch hockey either way. It may be a consideration for teams like the Habs in signing players though.

That said, I met Emerson Etem at an event out in Anaheim just after he was drafted, and the kids out there worship him. He also seemed like a great kid. Composed, mature, and professional, he seemed to appreciate the kids’ almost as much as they appreciated him.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

lotta “closed borders” chatter in the Russian hockey federation, BTW. They don’t like seeing their youngsters go to North America.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t blame them. It must suck to know that the best Russian in the world plays in the capital of the US of A.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 27, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s a lot different with Etem. There aren’t a whole lot of SoCal born hockey players so it’s nice for those kids to see someone make it from their area. Basically every Canadian town can already boast an NHL player, and the sport is already the most popular sport in Canada.

Just to take the Habs as an example, they’ve been drafting USA born players with their early picks like it’s going out of style (the notable exception was French-Canadian born, playing at Harvard, not the Q). I’m sure if you asked MON they’d say they thought they were taking the best players, and forcing them to take Canadians instead of the Americans they took would just hurt them.

I’d like to see the rule instated just so I can see the outrage when the quote keeps a European star off a Canadian roster. It seems like only yesterday the Canadian media was foaming at the mouth for a chance to sign AO away from the Caps…

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by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Friedman's 30 thoughts are back

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2010/09/reddens-exile-unfair-plus-30-thoughts.html

Love this one, and Elliotte, you’re wrong, of course:

10. The Washington Capitals had 475 applicants for an opening in their media relations department. That many people can’t really want to work for Nate Ewell.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I interviewed with him once. He’s cool, but I think it’d be murder to work for him.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

high standards? sort of guy who works 24/7 and expects all his people to do the same?

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was the impression I got, yeah. He was also very, very protective of his job. I remember mentioning that I was interested in eventually interviewing the players if the occasion ever arose, and he sort of stiffened and said “but that’s not in your job description.” I still wanted the job (internship) bad, but that turned me off.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might have been that, but I would imagine they’re also very wary of people who want to get in the business because they want to be around the players (not saying you’re one of those people, just that they are probably anxious about it).

by David Getz on Sep 27, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very good point. When I lived in Vegas my employers were incredibly strict about employee interaction with celebrities for a variety of reasons. I definitely think that’s a concern for pro-sports teams, especially when you consider it’s an internship and there may be a significant number of applicants that are trying to get access to “perks.”

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whole point of the job was to sort of learn how to handle being around the players, though, with the potential to, in fact, interview them at some point. When I mentioned it, I thought I was showing that I knew the job pretty well and was excited about working for the organization, as opposed to seeming a threat.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, it was a journalism internship :-P.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are obviously unaware of what constitutes “journalism” these days.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. I decided journalism was not my calling fairly early on.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that makes more sense from your point. I just thought DMG highlighted an interesting concern. In context, though, the concern would be more valid if I had brought up the prospect of interviewing players in an interview for the legal department. You’d think a journalism applicant would have interest in doing the actual job, so it shouldn’t have been much of a shock to him.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t opining as to what it would be like to work for him, just that from the outside, without knowing him personally, plenty of people would want the job. Besides, the job market is hell.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got that right. Now let me get back to my unpaid internship…

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

things that I would outlaw if I were empress of the universe.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never had one, but I agree with you. I don’t care if a kid gets college credit for it, if you’re getting value from the kid’s employment, you should pay at least minimum wage.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

But then you’d kill the opportunity for lots of students to get actual experience. I had an unpaid internship with a Federal judge and it was possibly the most rewarding/valuable experience of my legal education to date. Getting money would have been nice, but then I never would have had that chance.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’d have to be some clause about requiring interns just so that the job itself didn’t disappear.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you mean?

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I figured you meant that if every intern was paid, they’d simply not take on interns as to keep from spending money.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. They would find another way to do it. The clerks would do more of the work, basically. I think some places can afford a stipend but I doubt that it rises to minimum wage in a lot of cases.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think that these days there are too many organizations taking advantage. Have you looked at the job listings lately? Full of unpaid internships. People looking for a job are looking for a paying job in the classifieds.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly. There are some unpaid internships that are incredibly valuable. But I see a ton of unpaid internships that are full-time with organizations that aren’t exactly hurting for money.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

On the other hand the experience is valuable, and most NGOs run on donations have lost a lot of money over the last few years and just can’t afford to pay that extra $8 or whatever an hour. I mean, I didn’t HAVE to take this internship, I knew fully well it was unpaid. But it’s great experience and is connecting me to lots of people.

I just like complaining about the fact that I’m 27 years old and have to live with my parents.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have I looked at the job listings lately? Ugh.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry to make anyone ill. Only reason I do it is to give “mom’s help”, I’m not the one looking. And trying to navigate them is impossible.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s tough, to say the least.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

don’t you love sending out 50 resumes and not even getting a “thanks for applying” in response?

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The worst is when you’re overqualified for a job, and they don’t give it to you because they think you’ll leave as soon as something better comes along.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dear Gertrude Perkins,

Thank you for your novel. Get stuffed.

Samuel Johnson

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. My parents were asking about the jobs and I said I just assumed I wasn’t hired for the ones I applied to 2+ weeks ago. I think it’s pretty lame to not even send a “thanks but no thanks” email.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a kid here, an adult with a Master’s degree who is more qualified for her boss’s job than her boss. I thought being over-educated was supposed to help you get paid?

Anyway, /end OT rant

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. Balls. Serves me right for trying to save the world.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Destroying it is much more profitable. And fun.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, I’m amazed you’re still there if you’re actually better qualified than your boss. That’s a threat most people wouldn’t endure.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now let me get back to my unpaid internship…
things that I would outlaw if I were empress of the universe.

heh, the government has already beat you to it.

by b.orr4 on Sep 27, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

1) URL Fail

2) The Federal Government hasn’t outlawed unpaid internships, they’ve just provided guidance to clarify what constitutes work as opposed to an educational experience.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I put up a Fanshot. I should have checked here first before doing so.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 27, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Matt Hendricks one-year deal according to multiple sources on Twitter.

No indication if it’s one-way or two-way yet.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 27, 2010 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

If it’s not two way, I’ll eat my hat.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why? It’s not your money. If his agent is any good it’ll be one-way.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was predicting, not blustering.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotcha. I just don’t see why he settled for 2-way. He’s not going to make a ton of money anyway, and the value has nothing to do with whether he plays in the NHL. I guess at the end of the day it comes down to GMGM having all the leverage and Hendricks not having been a Cap/Bear for over a year already.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My opinion:

One, he’s a bubble roster player and they are more likely to be on 2-way contracts.

Two, his contract last season was a 2-way contract.

Three, if he does get sent to the AHL via waivers, he won’t have to go through re-entry waivers to get called back up if his AHL salary is $105,000 or less.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 27, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think those are spot on. Great job. 3 is new to me and definitely an important factor. If you couldn’t get guys like Hendricks back to the NHL without re-entry waivers it would be nearly impossible for him to get a deal.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Sep 27, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It would have to be, based on his history, I think.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 27, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is your hat made of bacon?

Mmmmmm. . . Bacon Hat. . .

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Heh. I just acquired a meat slicer for the express purpose of slicing bacon. I might weave some into a hat shape, if I can figure out how to do it, and roast it, just for fun.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you do, I want a FanShot.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I can pull it off, you got it.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

With bacon shrinkage, you’ll be lucky to get a yarmulke.

Think about the awesome ironic power of the bacon yarmulke.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 27, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

can definitely be done. You do lattice working, like making a straw hat.

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corey says two-way.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank goodness. No one wanted to see FD eat his hat.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 27, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Walton now says one-way.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Vogs also has it. Terms forthcoming (maybe).

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kate now has it posted on Capitals Insider as a one-year, two-way.

by N2CAPS on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s up, it’s down. This is so funny.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are banned from Sesame Street.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 27, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aww…. does that mean a part on SNL wearing a low-cut Elmo shirt?

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 27, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come for the boobs, stay for the hockey.

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better make that bacon hat quick, huh?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 27, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Somewhere, Sidney Crosby is thanking you for helping with the District’s issue with excessive hats…

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 27, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve updated my Fanshot with Today’s Waiver List. Just Willsie and Kyle Greentree from the Caps. Familiar name from Last year’s Calder Cup Finals as well: Matt Climie from Phoenix.

"HISTORY DOESN’T MATTER!!! .... Who cares if it’s never been done? We aren’t those teams who failed before. We are in control of our own destiny, and we will make it happen our own way.." - A Gordon, June 2010

by bagace on Sep 27, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I expected more cuts today. Surprise.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, fess up time. Someone named Jim just won NHL 11 from NHL Live with a glowing e-mail about Backstrom.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He probably wasn’t a Rink regular. No advanced stats in his e-mail.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 27, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Ha! And rec’d.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love EJ and Don. Good show today. Well, except for Paul Holmgren. Sounded like he just woke up.

"HISTORY DOESN’T MATTER!!! .... Who cares if it’s never been done? We aren’t those teams who failed before. We are in control of our own destiny, and we will make it happen our own way.." - A Gordon, June 2010

by bagace on Sep 27, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

The voice doesn’t correspond to my impression of him in print. Weird.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounded like he just woke up.

I sure hope he hasn’t. If he does he might realize he still doesn’t have a starting NHL goalie on his roster.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Reply fail.

"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov

by Carl Putnam on Sep 27, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Autographs @ Caps Convention

Previous attendees – is it just a crap shoot when selecting which session you want for autographs?

"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21

by snakegriffin on Sep 27, 2010 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

If last year was any indication, once you chose a time, you would get randomly assigned to one of three tables, either A, B, or C. So, if a certain player was likely to be in Time Slot 1, for example, you’d have a 1 in 3 chance of getting his table.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but you get a major player and a bubble player—the bigger the star the more bubble is the other. Foe example Ovi was paired with Sugden last time.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I find this acceptable, then.

"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21

by snakegriffin on Sep 27, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin was with Nylander last year. But Backstrom was with Green, if memory serves me correct.

Come to think of it, I now recall you posted that you got Ovi (and Sugden) as did I.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope. Different time slot. Green was with Acoun. Jurcina and Flash were together in the third time slot. I know this because we managed to get six signatures on our son’s jersey that day.

Alright, confess-how many goals are you going to make this year?

"I'm not going to tell!"

Well can you at least guarantee fifty?

"No way. I have a different objective. To win."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 27, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You did well — in the signature department.

I could have sworn Nicky and Green were in the last time slot somehow.

DId you get Juice and Flash as your “session”? I’m sure they were happy to appear together since they were best friends and roommates. (Even if the nations that produced them couldn’t stay together.)

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Season ticket holders can sign up for a timeslot on Friday night at the game. Do we have a schedule for the panels and stuff yet? I’m wondering if you can narrow down who your autographs will be based on where the stars are scheduled (e.g., if you want Backstrom and he’s speaking at 1pm, you shouldn’t sign up for the 1pm autograph table).

"Hockey is my life, wine is my passion." -- Igor Larionov

by Scott in Shaw on Sep 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The full schedule is posted, and you can attempt it, but good luck. They actually have three tables with two players each at all the timeslots. So you might get the right time, but the “wrong” table.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 27, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the chance we all take. Of course, it appears there’s already at least conflict. I think one of Knuble’s speech times overlaps with his time for a posed picture. (And I signed up for a posed picture with Knuble.)

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Sep 27, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is there a 2010-11 intro video yet? Aside from the CSN Race for the Cup one…

"Do you see my fist? It was fists like these that built quaint Canadian cities out of the harsh Canadian wilderness, etc. etc."

by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Haven’t seen it, but I bet we’ll see it at the end of the Caps Convention, like we did last year.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope they unveil the WC jerseys early in the day. Waiting around for the end was too long to see the intro video last year.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s around 12-1230 (the timeline’s on the website).

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by Bald Pollack on Sep 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re saying lunchtime. Check the website- the whole schedule is up. I’ve started planning my day.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hokay, thanks.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice, I’m bummed I’m missing all the Convention stuff, but I guess I"ll get a recap from you guys!

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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 27, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cameras?

From @washcaps:

Nick’s wearing four cameras: on his helmet, arm, chest, and skate.

Anybody know what’s up with that?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Based on the previous Tweet I’m guessing its for HBO.

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by iwearstripes on Sep 27, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seems like a fair guess. That could be trippy to watch.

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Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, he sure does scratch his groin an awful lot.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn SBN and their quotation marks disappearing.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 27, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was gonna say. :D

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by gotsparkly on Sep 27, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you’re nick name is “Slick” they want to be sure not to underestimate the sneakiness. :-)

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by Boggles on Sep 27, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, it was for HBO. They filmed the first practice with lots of cameras. Then the second group took the ice for practice while the first group did off-ice segments with the camera crews. After the practices, several Caps came out in full gear (Ovie, Nicky (with camera attachments), Knuble, and Poti, Steckle and King. Various players were on the ice past 4pm.

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by oldemystix on Sep 27, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t like cutdown days – keep checking here, keep checking teh Twitterz…

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s time to check the Tweets:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5p_aUWrw3U

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Sep 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

WASHCAPS tweet:

NEWS: Caps Update 2010 Training Roster – http://bit.ly/9LE2gy
6 minutes ago via TweetDeck

but the link is to an old roster…hmmm…..

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by bilspacecadet on Sep 27, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eww, my eyes! my eyes!

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by bagace on Sep 27, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

DJ King must still be pinching himself. One day, he’s a oft-injured, second-string goon for a middling team, next minute he’s sharing interview time on HBO with Alex Ovechkin.

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by EmilyB on Sep 27, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s a great article. I’m really looking forward to the show.

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by zephyr on Sep 27, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovechkin told HBO he predicts Chimera and Bradley will be two personalities that shine in the show, and added don’t rule out Semin even with the language barrier.

“He speaks English,” Ovechkin said. “Just ask him.”

Yup. Yuuuupppp

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Sep 27, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

CI also has a brief update with some photos and an interesting quote for Laich.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 27, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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