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Knockout McPhee piece by Svrluga.

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by boutros23 on Sep 17, 2010 7:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Indeed. Surprised, though, that they couldn’t/wouldn’t work in a reference to the current situation, if only to bring in a quote or two from other GMs from the Mirtle piece re: his reputation.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was kind of looking for that, too, but I can imagine this piece was probably pretty complete before this situation boiled over.

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by boutros23 on Sep 17, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt – a piece like that has been in the works for a looong time. But still, it could’ve been added. Or sidebar’d. But far be it for me to question how the Post’s NHL editor (or anyone over there) does her job.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Great stuff.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really is. I imagine long-timers knew a lot of the background about him, but much of it was new to me.

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by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow on that piece. Just wow.

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by WordsOnIce on Sep 17, 2010 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Svrluga is a freakin’ treasure. I’ve read it twice now.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was a great piece and count me in as one who only knew the broad strokes of McPhee’s prior life. I didn’t even bother with posters there though because so many McPhail Caps fans are on CI

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was fantastic. Also, he “grew up” as it were under the guidance of Pat Quinn, Lou Lamoriello and Brian Burke – those are some seriously tough, influential guys who not only taught him the GM trade but have nothing but praise for him. After seeing that I was not at all surprised GMGM runs this team the way he does or that he has the reputation he does.

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by Becca H on Sep 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Linktacular.

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by snakegriffin on Sep 17, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions  

How have I never seen that before? Awesome.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

very nice double entendre!

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by Boggles on Sep 17, 2010 7:40 AM EDT reply actions  

reply fail. :-/

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by Boggles on Sep 17, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Watching the video of last night’s goals (well, the 3 of them that were on the highlight reel), I have to say that only the Johansson-Galiev goal looks like an NHL goal. No way an NHL goalie allows the Godfrey slapshot that they did show to get through [insert Toskala joke here], though I would be curious to know what the other Godfrey goal looked like. And Eakin’s goal was a fantastic effort, but no NHL defense would play that situation that way, and Eakin will have to make that play even faster and wrap closer to the net to try that at the NHL level (and it probably still won’t work).

Nothing wrong with any of it, and good for those players for getting the goals they did. It’s just a reminder of what NHL hockey looks like. Those highlights made me hungrier for real hockey. Season can’t start soon enough.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The other Godfrey goal was a bad play by the goaltender. Didn’t close his pads quickly enough on Godfrey’s slap shot, and since Godfrey does have a rather impressive slap shot, it had enough juice to trickle through Bobrovsky’s legs and crawl over the line.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Johansson / Galiev goal, honestly, was a product of what happens when someone’s willing to plant themselves in the crease. Good on Galiev for going hard-nosed to the net. (That was something I liked about Eakin as well – willing to drive the net.)

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought this was interesting…A Caps shot breakdown for the time when Bobrovsky was in net, by the Flyers’ writer in attendance.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I mentioned in the main piece in Friday’s Daily News training camp preview (which you should be buying at the newsstand), Bobrovsky is easily the most hyped rookie goalie in almost a decade.

That’d be like “Hank” being the most hyped comedy on ABC in a decade. It isn’t a deep pool.

That said, I thought Bobrovsky struggled over long stretches yesterday. Spent too much time swimming around in his crease trying to cover one or the other post. The Caps couldn’t finish plays. But it is only one game and, apparently, his first on a North American dimension rink and style of play.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

are the nets and creases smaller in North American Hockey? Because the net came off the moorings on almost every save, and when I only saw players really hit the net in the scrum 3 or 4 times.

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by Boggles on Sep 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s something I noticed, too. He ran into his own net a lot.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t fault Bobrovsky for that (although a lot of folks around us seemed to). He was just aggressive at planting his skate at the post most of the time. I wasn’t seeing any intent to move the net off its moorings.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

More on Bobrovsky from Chesnokov

Good interview/read, IMO.

Excerpt:

" ‘I have only had two goaltending coaches in my career, and in the last few years I worked out alone,’ Bobrovsky said. "Of course, it slowed down my progress considerably…..Bobrovsky said the only coaching he had, was when he visited a two-week goalie camp held by a Finnish goaltending coach that another Russian, the Capitals’ Semyon Varlamov, also worked with."

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, I wasn’t going to fault him, till I had an answer. My assumption was that Bobrovsky must be used to a bigger area to cover, not that he was intentionally dislodging the net for a whistle.

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by Boggles on Sep 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t even read the write-up, I was posting in reference to the shot chart and the Caps’ prospects; however, it will be interesting to read now that I have read the perspective of some Caps fans on his performance.

Peerless, Nice job on the Neuvirth write-up. It is not said enough, but thank you for your blog. Your write-ups are great and required morning reading! Thank you.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Amen

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. I’ve heard differing opinions (now) on Galiev’s willingness to go into traffic.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Curious who was on the other side, because when that goal happened, Galiev was pretty firmly parked in the goaltender’s face. Whether it’s consistent? I’ve no idea, because I know for a fact he did it on that one occasion.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad – but I know for a fact he did it that once.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, no disputing he did it once. Guess the observation was more about other shifts (and it was a back-and-forth b/t @tylergreendc and @cmasisak22).

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, fair enough. Whether he does it consistently, I had a hard time telling as I was pretty close to the glass.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah to quote the guy at BSH:

Not too much at all. The first one was a Caps rush where their Galiev (who is as weak on the puck as anyone I’ve ever seen) was able to just push it through his legs as a gaggle of players crashed into the crease.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

From a Flyer perspective, that might be among the most damning comments one could make of a player. One rung above “purse carrying.” From my vantage, though, I thought Galiev had a pretty good game.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

No idea on my part. Had a car disaster, so I couldn’t go to the game, and the streaming feed wasn’t working.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the comment was made by a Flyers fan.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was an author, I think. The BSH authors know their stuff.

At any rate, he just got drafted. Plenty of time to put on muscle.

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know, but I was being a tad snarky. Also, it’s one game.

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by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Galiev also looked like he need a cheeseburger (or six). Just scrawny. If he doesn’t pack on some muscle and get better at protecting the puck in a couple years, then it’s time to worry. But for now? Eh. I’m excited to see him develop.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Such a kid...

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Galiev’s the one in the middle)

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Where’d they get those ties, Commander Salamander?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice reference.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa! High school flashback.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 17, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bad memories of trying to parallel park on one of those horrible side streets that still have the old trolley tracks in them.

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by Doncosmic on Sep 17, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

That isn’t the impression I had watching the game. He had good puck control for the most part and went into traffic a few times. Galiev’s weaknesses seemed more youth related.

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by oldemystix on Sep 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mackan looks good in that number 90 as well.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Sep 17, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know I’m late to the party today…so this may be mentioned further down.

The first one was a Caps rush where their Galiev (who is as weak on the puck as anyone I’ve ever seen) was able to just push it through his legs as a gaggle of players crashed into the crease.

— Comment made by Ben in the BSH link

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by Yoshietree on Sep 17, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jesus, it’s after noon on the East Coast and none of you has used this opportunity to take a shot at Flash? C’mon people! Wake up!

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by bilspacecadet on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

FLASH SUCKS!!!

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Laich "Grumpy" article
Coach Bruce Boudreau knows it’s the question his Capitals are going to face until next April.

“What did we learn? I don’t know what we learned,” he said at rinkside as the Caps skated in an informal workout in preparation for the first day of training camp Friday.

“You want it to be something profound. ‘You can’t take anybody for granted?’ We didn’t take them for granted. We outplayed them for six out of the seven games. We just didn’t win."

Whelp!…See you guys in 2011-12.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Not very reassuring, is it?

Sometimes profound lessons like that have pieces that take time to assemble, and one like this one might have to be assembled on the ice over the course of the season.

If it’s December and I don’t see any signs of figuring it out, I’ll worry then.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had that sort of attitude when Bruce was strutting this stance back after the loss. I thought maybe he needed more time to reflect. So here it is, days away from the first game, and I don’t think he feels any differently.

I like the reflection Brooks has done but we know how the players can talk one way but then have to perform in another.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t care about Bruce doing it, because he’s not on the ice. In the end, the players have to cash that check. They haven’t played a game since then. It’s the players who need to put it together, because like you said, saying one thing and doing another. Sometimes the pieces have to fall into place when you’re actually playing on the ice. I know it’s that way for me.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if the coach didn’t learn a lesson how likely is it that the players perform differently?

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Do we know whether he learned something or not?

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not definitively.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if you’re going to react this way everytime you get a quote like this, you’re going to be miserable, because one thing seems certain — the public answer to this set of questions ain’t going to change all year.

I mean, for crying out loud, the guy says

“Maybe we’re better if we score 20 goals less and give up 20 less,” he said. "We have to be better defensively. We’ve been flashy and played for the fans. We have to be more soldier-like.

“When good teams play with the lead, they take you out of the game. They don’t let you off the floor. We had teams down and we let up. (Changing) is not going to happen right off the bat, but by February or March, you have to know how to play the right way. The last two months of the regular season, you really have to have your identity down and know how to play to win in the playoffs."

What the hell else are you looking for? They played their guts out and lost due in large part to bad luck. It’s the truth, and looking for them to find more reason in it ain’t going to help much. Let’s see how they play in April — who gives a damn what they say in September.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

The playoffs are completely and totally a crap shoot. The best team in the regular season doesn’t always win. Wacky things happen. It’s just the nature of the beast.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The playoffs are completely and totally a crap shoot.

Really? It seems to me as though a lot of people picked Chicago and Philly to be the two teams in the finals before the season. It didn’t happen exactly how people thought it would, but things rarely do. Still, it’s not as though the outcome was completely improbable. With the exception of Carolina in ’06, and maybe Tampa in ’04, can you think of a totally out of the blue Stanley Cup Champ?

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think I missed all the Philly picks (though in fairness to me, they couldn’t have been picked before needing a shootout win on the last day of the season to even make it into the playoffs).

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were a ton of people picking Philly before the season after the Pronger acquisition. The team shambled through the regular season for a variety of reasons, but a lack of talent wasn’t one of them.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right on – I thought you meant pre-playoffs, not pre-season. But then I re-read where you wrote “before the season” and felt like a fucking idiot. Please accept my heartfelt apologies.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

No worries. I’m the guy who couldn’t figure out that Dec ’85 and Mar ’87 are only 15 months apart the other day.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can think of “out of the blue” Stanley Cup Finalists though (immediately coming to mind are the 06 Oilers and the 91 North Stars). And I can also think of wacky upsets, like the Caps/Habs this past season, and the Pens/Islanders in 93 (thanks to the David Volek Game, and may God bless him eternally for it).

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wacky upsets happen. Wacky finalists happen.

You know what also always happens?

A damn good teams wins the Cup – a team that at least a few people foresaw winning the Cup at some point. Had the ‘91 North Stars won the Cup, I’d say that was wacky, but they didn’t.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

But they beat the defending Cup Champions, beat a team that finished with 106 points, and beat a team that finished with 105 points to make the finals. They finished that season with 68 points.

That’s not wacky? It doesn’t matter in the end if they won or not, but the fact they went on the absolutely improbable run that they did, does.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter in the end if they won or not

Actually, this is the ONLY thing that matters. In the end, they lost to the best team in the NHL.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Pittsburgh finished with 88 points. They weren’t even the best team in the Wales Conference that year.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but go back and look at their roster. Recchi, Cullen, Stevens, Coffey, Lemieux, Jagr, Mullen, Errey, Murphy, Barasso…

The reason they sucked during the regular season was because Lemieux was out for almost all of it.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

…and Ron Francis. Good old underrated Ron Francis :)

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I could come back and throw Boston’s roster that year at you. Ray Bourque, Cam Neely. Dave Christian dropped 32 that year. Ken Hodge Jr. put up 30. Craig Janney dropped 26/66/92. Team had 3 guys with over 90 points. They only gave up 264 goals that year (Pittsburgh gave up 305). The only teams that gave up fewer were Montreal, Washington, St. Louis, and Chicago.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This argument has derailed pretty widely from my original point.

Yes, improbable things happen in the playoffs, but it’s not a complete crapshoot by any means. Great teams tend to win the Cup. If it were a crapshoot, then teams like the ‘06 Oilers or the ’03 Ducks or the ’91 North Stars would win Cups on occasion. The fact of the matter is that they don’t.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that what Laich says? Where did I say I wasn’t happy with what he said?

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, when the quote makes you throw an entire season out the window, I think it’s fair to say you’re not happy with it.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

HUH? First, that’s obvious snark and secondly it was Bruce’s quote and not Laichs which I said I had issue with.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t take snark out of that at all. Sorry, I didn’t. I really thought you were serious.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not serious, I’ll definitely be attending up to 35 regular season games this year cheering for them to win and not secretly hoping for them to implode.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. And that’s all we can ask.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta support the team.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m looking for the speech you quote to come from the coach. How they play in April is built on how they play in March, Feb, and so forth back to September. And how they play is built on how they plan to play, and how they practice how they plan to play. That comes back to the coach. Granted, the players have to execute, but they have to know what and how to execute — and that comes back to the coach.

Sure, wacky things happen, that’s why they play the games. But the Caps, too often, have been the “whackees” rather than the “whackers” I’d like to see them prepare, so they can overcome wacky things (aka “hot goalies”, “bad power plays” “not being able to score”), and so they can make the wacky things happen to someone else.

by miseenjeu on Sep 17, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry about the nested reply fail…

"Maybe we’re better if we score 20 goals less and give up 20 less," he said. "We have to be better defensively. We’ve been flashy and played for the fans. We have to be more soldier-like.

"When good teams play with the lead, they take you out of the game. They don’t let you off the floor. We had teams down and we let up. (Changing) is not going to happen right off the bat, but by February or March, you have to know how to play the right way. The last two months of the regular season, you really have to have your identity down and know how to play to win in the playoffs."

What else am I looking for? I’m looking for that speech to come from the coach. How they play in April is built on how they play in March, Feb, and so forth back to September. And how they play is built on how they plan to play, and how they practice how they plan to play. That comes back to the coach. Granted, the players have to execute, but they have to know what and how to execute — and that comes back to the coach.

Do I think they played their hearts out, and they were the victims of bad luck? I think they played their hearts out, but I’m tired of the bad luck argument.

Sure, wacky things happen, that’s why they play the games. But the Caps, too often, have been the "whackees" rather than the "whackers" I’d like to see them prepare, so they can overcome wacky things (aka "hot goalies", "bad power plays" "not being able to score"), and so they can make the wacky things happen to someone else.

by miseenjeu on Sep 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m tired of rolling out the shot totals. I’m tired of this argument. Boudreau’s not wrong. The Caps outplayed Montreal 6 games out of 7.

They should have outplayed Montreal more, they should have gone to the net more etc. They could have done things to give themselves an even higher probability of winning. But the fact remains that what happened was incredibly unlikely.

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by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t need stats. I don’t think he’s wrong, I just don’t think it’s the right way for the coach to be responding. As tired as you are as hearing it from others I’m 100x more tired hearing it from Bruce.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

What else is he supposed to say?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something better than, “I don’t know what we learned.” I really don’t believe I’m being unreasonable here.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Because when the series is, in essence, a complete and utter statistical anomaly where otherworldy, insanely wacky things happen, there’s not much more you can say than “I don’t know what we learned”.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you and Bruce can sit in the camp of trying to say you’ve learned nothing because if the Caps could replay the series they would probably, definitely, maybe, win the other 9 out of 10. For me, that’s just not good enough and it really presses some buttons.

I would much prefer even a “I respectfully invoke my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution on the grounds that answering questions may incriminate me.” at this point.

And I guess that I won’t bring this subject up again here. I was just actually surprised to read that type of quote again this morning. I haven’t been hanging out here a lot this summer so maybe you guys beat this to a pulp 400 times and knew that Bruce wasn’t going to change his stance.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with Z. If nothing else, I’d just like BB to say “when you go up 3-1 you go for the kill. You don’t come out and drop a giant turd at center ice of your home rink.” Yeah, we probably did outplay them 6 out of 7 games (though I’m sure there’s room for argument). But the game that we were outplayed was hugely critical (even in the context of “all playoff games are critical”). Game 5 was when the Caps we know and hate showed up, let the Habs back in the series, and ultimately doomed us. I thought we’d still win the series after game 5, but I was pretty forlorn because I was hoping that this was the year the Caps finally found a killer instinct. It wasn’t. I’m not saying BB never acknowledged it, but there’s no reason he couldn’t have acknowledged it again instead of saying “I don’t know what we learned.”

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

The series being a complete and utter statistical anomaly where otherworldy, insanely wacky things happen notwithstanding, there’s still not any reason you can’t take something from it. I mean, unless you completely steamroll a team, you can always take something from a playoff series.

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

I guess “shit happens” is something to take away….

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

What D’ohboy said. While we were in the middle of the “magic number” countdowns, the only team I feared was the Habs. The Caps were never able to solve them in the regular season. One regulation win, one OT win, one regulation loss, one OT loss. (One of the OT games may have gone to a shootout)

It may be important to consider that Li’l Stevie Y has been loading up on the Canadiens’ brain trust. Don’t think he’s not gunning right at Bruce Boudreau.

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by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure Steve Yzerman is gunning for BB. They are now division rivals. I’m also sure that MON beating us has nothing to do with Steve Yzerman or how this season plays out.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I felt the exact same way going in.

My assertion of “wacky” things happening goes to the PP drought, and Alex Semin hitting the glass with every single shot. And Jaroslav Halak turning into Terry Sawchuk.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Alex Semin hitting the glass with every single shot, even if accurate, would be considered wacky? I thought that was the kind of thing people were afraid of when they noticed that Semin shoots top corner every single time instead of settling for getting the puck on net.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, that irked me. By game 7 it was pretty apparent that Bruce’s approach wasn’t guaranteeing wins, and I’m pretty sure everyone around here was calling for certain changes to be made (cough PK cough). But he didn’t. The fact that even now, 4 months later, he coming across as bewildered really bothers me and doesn’t give me much confidence should we face another situation like last year’s playoffs.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I agree that this is tired, the aggregate shot totals – or even game-by-game, period-by-period, distance, etc. – don’t tell the whole story.

To me, the first ten minutes of Game 5 was more telling.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Winner, winner, Chicken Dinner!! You nailed it again J.P. This is exactly where the series turned. The Caps came out flat. Ovechkin said it himself that the team thought the Habs were just going to give them that game. A clear sign of immaturity. Hopefully they learned a very hard lesson.

by Ed F - WNST on Sep 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce is not wrong. But how do you think “Hey, I dunno” plays in the room?

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The same as “Flash is starting tonight at 2C”?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree. My guess is that Flash is much better-liked in the room than on fan sites.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably. That was just the first meme that popped into my head.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s absolutely well-liked in the room – to the point where I heard some of the guys were upset that he was benched in Game 7.

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by Becca H on Sep 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If true, that disturbs me greatly. Normally guys want the best chance to win. If they thought Flash was giving them the best chance to win…

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t want to be the one to say it…

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree it’s a little disturbing…just telling what I’ve heard. The only logic I can find in that thinking (and it’s minimal at best) is that maybe after losing a game 2-1 they were upset that a guy who – in theory, at least – can score was benched in favor of a guy who probably wasn’t going to score.

But yeah, I don’t know. I was happy to see Flash’s name on the scratched list.

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by Becca H on Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, the other theory is that guys like to go to “battle” with the guys they’ve been fighting with all year. Speaks more to comraderie than strategy.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can accept that to a degree, but at the same time you think these guys really want to win. I’m not sure what they saw in Flash that was helping them win. Obviously they all know much more about it than I do, but even BB thought Flash needed a benching (albeit too late for my liking). Yeah, in a 2-1 game a goal would be pretty nice, but what made anyone think that goal was coming from Flash? I’d have pegged Chimera, Bradley, Gordon… anyone to score before Flash, even if he had dressed.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. I agree. Just throwing the theory out there as a legit one. To a degree.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is legit, and I would love for NHL players to be more willing to talk about it openly. I don’t see it happening.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The grammar police let you get away with “comraderie”? For shame.

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by SmallZ827 on Sep 17, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s “comraderie” for the Caps…it’s a Russian thing.

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by bigeugene on Sep 17, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, shitty spelling. Sue me.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re the lawyer, probably wouldn’t work out for me.

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by SmallZ827 on Sep 17, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but the attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or anyone choosing Tapocana as an agent? (Okay, I can’t spell the name, I must admit.)

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like Quintin Laing.

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you and Bruce can sit in the camp of trying to say you’ve learned nothing because if the Caps could replay the series they would probably, definitely, maybe, win the other 9 out of 10. For me, that’s just not good enough and it really presses some buttons.

Having never been a pro athlete, I have absolutely no way to back this up but I have a deep suspicion that what is said to the press/public often bears little resemblance to what is said behind the closed doors of the lockerroom. I have no problem with how Bruce rationalizes the Montreal series to Dan Rosen or Katie because I haven’t heard one player or coach utter one syllable that implies that anything short of winning the Cup will be acceptable this season. That tells me that the message has been sent loud and clear and everyone is buying into it.

by b.orr4 on Sep 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I would just expect for him to say, in private, that the Caps outplayed them 6 out of 7 and if was bad luck, and in public give the polite response.

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the benefit of saying “I didn’t learn anything”?

Us thinking that Bruce is completely different in the locker room with these statements than he is to the press is a bit of wishful thinking. Everything about him seems to be very what you see is what you get.
That’s not even the issue for me though because we can’t prove it one way or the other. We’ve seen throughout the playoffs now that Bruce doesn’t really adjust.

Bruce sees fires and he’s really good at using water to put it out. However, come April, he keeps getting unlucky match-ups against chemical fires. Bruce keeps throwing water on it instead of finding a different way to extinguish the flame.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Everything about him seems to be very what you see is what you get.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

That quote leaped out at me too.

Sometimes when things don’t go your way, the coach has to be the difference. Clearly this did not happen last year.

And if he isn’t being coy and really didn’t learn anything, I’m betting that’s not going to be good for business.

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by macvechkin on Sep 17, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce sees fires and he’s really good at using water to put it out. However, come April, he keeps getting unlucky match-ups against chemical fires. Bruce keeps throwing water on it instead of finding a different way to extinguish the flame.

Brilliant analogy.

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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seems to me that Bruce’s methods have always been offense first, let’s try to outscore the opponent. His thinking in the MTL series was just to keep throwing Ovi, Green, Semin, as much offense as possible and sooner than later the pucks would start going in. That never happened. He didn’t adjust. I guess he figured that at some point something had to give, and it did, a Caps loss in Game 7 and a first round exit.

It irks me too that Boudreau seems to acknowledge that some sort of adjustment should have been made during that series. One of the adjustments should have been benching Flash earlier.

by reesem37 on Sep 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

*doesn’t acknowledge

by reesem37 on Sep 17, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s that, but more like “we’ll break through sooner or later” (which is why Flash kept playing late in the season and in the playoffs, I think).

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

it’s not particularly unusual for coaches to say things in public that are quite different to what goes on behind closed doors. Heck, just watch the Nats. Jim Riggleman will, without fail, back up his guys and take the blame publicly; in the locker room, he apparently won’t hesitate to let it rip. It happens at the college level, too (the stories my husband has from his playing days….)

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

It seems weird if BB can call out his players at times during press conferences (IIRC) and then not call them out here too.

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

The procedure went perfectly! Whaddya mean the patient is dead?!

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Barthel – Ha, I noticed that the other day, loved the headline of the news release I saw…“”http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=4091625" >former NHL draft pick"…marketing :)

In related news, sort of, and an apology if this has already been mentioned, but ‘05 pick Daren Machesney has been invited to Columbus’ training camp due to some goalie injuries in the organization. There was also an article about ’06 pick Keith Seabrook the other day….future considerations….

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Do we know what those considerations were yet?

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

on another note….Happy Birthday Ovie!

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by Amacaps on Sep 17, 2010 8:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Sanity check please.

I was reading on another forum elsewhere an assertion that “Mike Green’s defensive woes can be laid at the feet of Bruce Boudreau and nobody else.” My initial reaction is “that’s so stupid I don’t know where to start”. Any thoughts?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s so stupid I don’t know where to start.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

That said, I certainly think it’s possible that with a different coach, different D-partners, etc., he might be a more sound defenseman at this point in his career.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, but that’s always true of most young D-men, isn’t it? What about him is so different?

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s Mike Green whereas other 24 year old defenseman aren’t.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

A flimsy argument at best. :)

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meaning he’s under the spotlight. If Green weren’t famous for his offense, I doubt his defense would be criticized for not being as good as his offense, which is the case, now.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

If his defense was as good as his offense he’d be God.

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by gotsparkly on Sep 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

His numbers actually compare rather favorably to Doughty, even the more arcane ones.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

which brings us back to the whole “Mike Green is much better at defense than 99% (and 100% of Philly hockey writers!) of people give him credit for”

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s better than he gets credit for and he’s not as good as he needs to be. His intensity and attention to detail lapsed at crucial moments against MON and I have a hard time forgetting that.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

If his defense was as good as his offense he’d be God.

Or he’d be Bobby Orr (obvious self-serving name drop)

by b.orr4 on Sep 17, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Green is carrying the cross, but Varly saves.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Semin is the holy (playoff) ghost?

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That said, I certainly think it’s possible that with a different coach, different D-partners, etc., he might be a more sound defenseman at this point in his career.

but would he be in the record books? (I ask this seriously)

Or am I completely wrong? Maybe it’s not a zero-sum game. Maybe he could, at 24, be elite offensively and defensively.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an unanswerable hypothetical. There’s certainly a camp that believes that all Bruce has done for Green’s development is unshackle him and turned him loose and that any progress he’s made is simply natural maturing/development.

To the original point – "Mike Green’s defensive woes can be laid at the feet of Bruce Boudreau and nobody else." – I’d say that if there’s one person at whose feet Mike Green’s defensive woes could be laid, it’s Mike Green.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that, and I thank God he broke into the league with Hanlon. How bad would his D be if BB was the only pro coach he knew? But at the same time, would Green’s offensive dominance be the same with any other coach besides BB? If out-scoring the other team is the point of the game, and Green helps do that because of his offense, blah blah blah.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might not know where to start, but I know where to end…

…where it says, “ignore this nonsense.”

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

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You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really just think D is too tough for him so he should acclimate as a Wing.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 17, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Tattoo Sleeves

Did you guys see these tattoo sleeves the NHL is marketing this year? I just heard about them last week. I did a search and didn’t see any mention of it so I figured I’d post it.

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT reply actions  

The MLS have been doing those tat sleeves the last two years. The Toronto FC club here have sold them and in all honesty, they are pretty damn laughable.

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Puck Daddy had a post on these a couple of weeks ago. And they were selling them at VC last season. They are… awful.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow, I had no idea they were in the VC last season. I would like a revamp of the greenlife52 picture with him sporting two of these bad-boys =]

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw someone walking around the VC with one. made me want to barf.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least you can TAKE THEM OFF when playtime is over.

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by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Truely is a bizzare inclusion of MIke Wise in Kelley’s article. If I’m not mistaken, his “sprited debate” on Wise’s show with “attack-puppy co-host” (Bill Rohland, at the time) was when Kelly said he was there in Buffalo when Ov ran Briere into the boards. Of course, that happened in DC and I believe Nate Ewell noted that Kelley wasn’t even on the press list for that game.

BTW, I’m not sure that calling someone names is befitting a HHOF writer.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Sep 17, 2010 8:46 AM EDT reply actions  

He knows he can make a compelling case in that what he did with the initial Kovalchuk offer was no less a circumvention of the CBA than what Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch did with contracts for several veteran players, or what Philadelphia Flyers owner Ed Snider did with his “retirement” contract for Chris Pronger.

Why do people STILL NOT REALIZE WHAT A 35+ CONTRACT IS?!!

ROAR!!!!!!!!

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe that’s why retirement is in quotations? (not sure why i’m giving kelley the benefit of the doubt.)

my personal reading of the events: even if the pronger contract is a 35+ contract—and it is—the flyers should still be held accountable for attempting to circumvent the cap so long as that were their misguided intention—and it was.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree. The Flyers have done some pretty questionable things, but I have a hard time believing that nobody up there knew the ramifications of signing the guy to a 35+ contract of that length.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

You think it was intentional and not just a screw up? That would seem to contradict this report from around the time of the signing:

If Chris Pronger retires with term and salary remaining on his contract after next season, does his money stay on the Flyers’ cap?

There’s some confusion today in Philadelphia over that simple question.

According to the NHL, the answer is yes. The seven-year, $35 million extension Pronger agreed to on Tuesday doesn’t commence until after June 30, 2010. Pronger will be 35 at that point and any remaining salary will remain on the cap.

The Flyers disagree and interpret the CBA language governing the “over 35” clause differently.

Sources say the Flyers’ lawyers are now aware of the league’s stance and are debating this issue.

Seems to me they were unaware of how the rule is applied when they signed Pronger.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good heavens.

Don’t teams have people who’s entire JOB is to manage the salary cap and CBA? Did the Flyers miss out on that?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

If that’s the case, Paul Holmgren should have been fired immediately.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

his saving grace might be the new CBA negotiations, where it’s been rumored that many of these contracts will receive a “get out of jail free” card. otherwise i have no idea.

their reasoning could have been that pronger had SIGNED the deal when he was under 35? but daly came out and made it as clear as possible. i did a lot of talking about this here and at BSH at the time. it’s when i met MarioD. memory lane I, memory lane II. and our discussion here at japers’.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I believe that’s what I heard. Pronger signed the deal before he was 35, but the deal didn’t start until after he tuirned 35.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was reminded of this whole affair during the excellent don fishman interview on japers’ rink radio. fishman explicitly discusses the practice of calling up bill daly’s office if there is ever a question about the NHL’s interpretation of the CBA. he says he’s done it on a number of occasions.

why the flyers didn’t get that answer from the league before putting it in ink, i have no clue.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

because they’re the Flyers?

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

i left out memory lane III, the episode where sombrero guy comes to my defense. still don’t get where travis was coming from in that article. both his confidence the deal would come off the books (what, because larry brooks says so?) and his confidence in flyers management (despite the already circulating dreger report).

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Bruins tried to do the same thing with Tim Thomas. PHI should have at least learned from them.

Oh MarioD. I’m sure someone misses him. Right?

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I really hope the next CBA does not include the get out of jail free cards. That’s crap.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

if it were put up to a vote, i’d hope the majority of owners wouldn’t want the get out of jail free cards. really only the teams that went down this rode, which is far less than half.

that said, i don’t know the internal politics between owners, and the NHLPA is going to make sure their players get paid one way or the other.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And that’s why Dale Tallon lost his job before last season.

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

you beat me to it. (darren dreger with the report btw, for those that don’t click through.)

plus, even without dreger’s report, why the hell would any team give pronger that many years if they knew it was a 35+ contract? or bother to structure the deal in such a front-loaded fashion? since the guy’s going to get paid either way, and it’s going to count against the cap either way, i’d think an ownership group would want to do it the other way around if all else were the same (with more money in the later years so they would have some delay in paying out).

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

PLUS there was a no-movement clause in the contract! seemingly will prevent the flyers from moving old/slow pronger to the AHL, or (possibly) trading him to a team near the salary cap basement. all the contract details just scream “we’re signing this guy to an under-35 deal and he’s going to retire early.”

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

....

The next 7 years there are going to be a lot of fun

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. I wonder if there’s an animated gif of the sequence that led to him whacking his stick on the goal after Ovi pwned him in the first game in Philly last year.

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by patred48 on Sep 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

*

so long as that was their misguided intention

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m still trying to decide whether Kelley and his ilk (first time I’ve used that word in print) are just stupid or intentionally being jerky when lumping the OV/Backis contracts with the goofy ones. Then maybe it’s not the contracts that are goofy, just the writers.

It’s all wrong, but it’s all right.

by OldPhil on Sep 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid and lazy is my take. Probably lazy even more than stupid. Not that it’s so hard to take a look at capgeek to find the contract details.

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by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you repeat the story enough it becomes true.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably both, considering the kind of stuff Kelley has written about Ovie in the past.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

With Muir I said he should know better about the contractual differences and he did edit his piece to make it factually correct. However with Kelley I believe that he probably does know but prefers to paint Ovi and the Caps in as negative and misleading a light as possible.

Has anyone tried to tweet him about his errors. That is if he tweets?

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

If anyone can find the “comments” button on Kelley’s article, please point me to it. SI must be the last (theoretically) MSM without the ability to comment on an article.

WaPo, NYT, WSJ, ESPN, CNN, MSNBC all allow comments from readers on every single article as far as I can tell.

C’mon SI – open it up.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 17, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I can tell, no comments button. But you can e-mail him.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Naah. Public humiliation is so much more satisfying.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 17, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. But letting him know he is writing idiotic statements is still fun.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I emailed A LOT in response to his horrible piece after Ovi’s first suspension. I took the high road meaning I didn’t call him an asshole but I wreaked havoc on his points one-by-one and suggested that he take Ted up on his offer to come and watch Ovi and Caps play at the Phonebooth.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I pretty much just pointed out why Ovie and Backstrom’s contracts are vastly different from the rest that he listed and suggested he check the facts next time. Didn’t even call him an idiot for writing that… such restraint.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i nominate josh godfrey for the next “ranking the capitals” poll.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Did you see him play beyond his two good PP shots :-)? Ick.

by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he didn’t… and maybe another NHL club didn’t either…

But yeah.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

i didn’t. that was just a fun comment to write out. though after reading the leone article i’m still not sure about godfrey’s chances of making hershey this year. can someone closer to the bears tell us how the top 6 D are shaking out?

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Corey had this guess:

Patrick McNeill-Lawrence Nycholat
Brian Fahey-Zach Miskovic
Patrick Wellar-Sean Collins
Dylan Yeo-Joe Finley

And Mark French “”http://ravingsofarinkrebel.blogspot.com/2010/09/rookie-camp-day-5-rookie-game.html" target="new">did express doubts on his playing at the AHL level next year. He said that Finley needs to ‘play at a higher pace’ in order to make it in the AHL."

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit… sorry for the html fail…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I believe you’re legally required to call him “Big Joe Finley.”

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fig Boe Jinley

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jig Foe Binley?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Based on the typos in many articles/entries on him, it should somehow read “Big Joe Finely” (note: I assume some software automatically corrects and that’s why the typo appears so often.)

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Big Foe Jinley

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kroll should see playing time at the AHL level, add to it that McNeill and Miskovic might not be ready to start the year, but I’d slot him in over Finley at this time, fwiw. Of note, working from memory, Fahey and Kroll are right shots.

See below for some additional comments on this topic; also, hadn’t read that write-up by Corey M (usually read his stuff, but didn’t realize he had the Hershey and SC info. in there; funny since I just typed something up in response to a SC/ECHL question without seeing it, but pretty close comparing the two in terms of Hershey assignments vs SC).

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Related: awesome Sean Collins contract…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, seriously. That Sean Collins contract reminds me of so many that I’ve signed in NHL ‘09 and ’10 where I forget to set the offer as a “two-way” contract. Only here, it means that the organization’s paying Collins 600k to play in Hershey.

by Wheeler on Sep 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I give Stevenson even odds of making HER as Finley.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they’re both awfully big, and definitely too beaucoup for HER to take both of them at once…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

And we have a winner for our “Most Revolting Double Entendre” Award.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I aim to please… F&B.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give me Joudrey…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oops — already there

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

All dependent on injuries, performance, other roster transactions (trades/other acquisitions, etc.)

Defensemen (22 contracts known at this time across the 3 organizations):
- 14 under NHL contract
- 4 on AHL contracts with Hershey
- 4 announced contracts with SC
- Assuming Washington carries 7 or 8 dmen and Hershey carries at least 7 or 8 to start the season, would mean anywhere from 1 to 3 get sent down to SC, if not more; the most likely candidates to head to SC, IMO, are Godfrey, Stevenson and Finley. However, Patrick McNeill and Zach Miskovic may not be ready to start the season due to off-season shoulder surgery and a development camp knee injury, respectively, so that alters the landscape depending on their status.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT reply actions  

grrr, sorry for the reply fail

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the reply, sk8.

by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rangers Third Jersey?

I give it a thumbs up

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions  

J’approve.

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is that Rivers Cuomo?

I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.

by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I can’t tell if it’s black or navy blue. If it’s black, fail. If it’s navy blue, moderate pass, but I liked the Lady Liberty navy blue thirds a lot better.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

.

I liked the Liberty logo on the white. That was a sharp sweater.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gretz should have put on white gloves.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re joking, right? I hated that sweater.

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I am not joking. Funny thing about tastes – they vary from person to person.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought that I was the person who told you what to like! Huh… must’ve been a breakdown in communication somewhere.

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the thing about a communication breakdown. It’s always the same.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup and count me in the group that didn’t like the Liberty jerseys.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you hate America?

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Horse With No Name” was a terrible song?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Sure was. “Sister Golden Hair” is no picnic either. In fact, their whole catalog… ugh.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the original guys from America (whose name I forgot) left the group when he became Born Again and went on to be one of the first Christian pop singers.

He was also a California Golden Seals fan.

(That last part I made up so as to keep it hockey-related.)

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I did “You Can Do Magic” as a joke at karaoke once.

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must admit that that particular song is a favorite of mine (and makes me think of better days with the Baltimore Orioles).

Last year (2009), I was playing it in the office during the playoffs. I wasn’t able to play it the day of the infamous Game 7 of the Caps-Pens game. (Was that the problem?)

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s one freakin’ chord! The entire song is one chord!

by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a cool sweater.

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by timmyv38 on Sep 17, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

hated those sweaters. still hate them.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I always wondered how Gretzky could score that much wearing a colander on his head. I have a hankerin’ to strain pasta or something.

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rangers 1977-1978 Throwback uniforms

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yup… throw ’em back

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Horizontal stripes and throat laces? Winner.

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by CapitalCentre on Sep 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does he look like an extra from “Revenge of the Nerds?”

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are the glasses part of the uniform?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is 28 links a Rink record, or merely a Man vs. Food challenge?

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Heh. Might be close. Natty?

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Laich sounds pissed

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Sep 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

“I couldn’t ride the bike far enough or lift enough weights to get it out. People at home tell me how fun we are to watch and how we’re going to be good again this year. I get sick and tired of hearing that. The guys have to know that’s not acceptable, to be good and not win.

Somewhere Alexander Semin is reevaluating his whole approach to the game.

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somewhere Alexander Semin is reevaluating his whole approach to the game.

We wish.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Yeah…perhaps “Somewhere Alexander Semin is furrowing his brow in confusion” would have been better snark.

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps “Somewhere Semin is playing the bongos”.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah... he's ready to go.

[Source]

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

It’s his best Burt Reynolds impression.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Audition for Mattress Discounters commercial

Bruce can’t do ALL the ads…

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like a position a little kid might get into in order to hold it in.

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by STLSpidey on Sep 17, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Safety!!!!

Everything sounds smarter in Tikkanesse....

by Bonzai!!! on Sep 17, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sad news

Warnings and all that this was imminent, still very sad news….reports are that Pat Burns has passed away.
  

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

:(

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fan 590: Ray Ferraro on The TEAM 1040 reports that former Maple Leafs Head coach Pat Burns has passed away at the age of 58.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is truly sad news.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should know better than to post news like this quickly. Sounds like some people are still confirming whether this sad news is true.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oof. The rush to be first on something like this can produce such awkward (and unnecessary) results.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I understand. FWIW, I wasn’t really trying to be first at anything on this, just adding the info. and my thoughts on what I appeared to be very sad news, Appeared being the operative word and my mistake. I was relying on some people I trust, but relying on their twitter and realize they were retweeting others, sorry.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know – I meant on Twitter. You weren’t reporting, you were citing lousy reporting. There’s a big difference.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

All clear.

The tweets by McKenzie quoting Burns…classic Burns. So happy news, Burns is still battling.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if he’ll read any of what was written about him in those minutes in between. It’d be pretty nuts to read/hear what everyone would say about you thinking you were dead…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve pulled the story I linked to. Oy.

I feel so bad for the poor guy.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reading McKenzie’s tweets after talking to Burns. Terminal illness isn’t funny at all, but this episode is crying out for SNL treatment.

"It's always good to have vikings."

by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only good parts to this story:

- Pat Burns giving quotes about his ‘death’
- and Wyshynski’s recent tweet: “http://tinyurl.com/23vfp4e RT @DamoSpin Gotta love how some people appoint themselves”

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

aha, now I see JP has retweeted (handclap)

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

and this:McKenzie with a wonderful piece, as usual

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

People, you HAVE to read this. Incredible.

The ice will show everything.

by cuqui on Sep 17, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a link

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIP. Definitely a loss to the hockey community.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or not.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

the good folks at RMNB posted that Bruce has yet another new commercial. You can watch it here.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Ahh! There is the game plan, more Hadeed!

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skeptical about TBL

Puck Daddy has a post on the new system that the TBL will use this year.

It sounds complicated, innovative and like it will require very good execution not to break down.

To that extent – and note that I am not comparing the substance here – it sounds a lot like Butch Cassidy and what he tried to implement in DC. I don’t remember the particulars, but I recall that after he was gone, the players all heaved a collective sigh of relief, and said that the system was so complicated, and had so many reads, that they spent all their time trying to figure out what their next move was to be.

I am skeptical that this system will work out with NHL guys that have spent their life trying to play simple hockey.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions  

It sounds a bit to me like the “Torpedo” system that the Swedes tried to use in Salt Lake in 2002.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

This

The coach wants the puck on the sticks of his top six forwards. That means immediately moving the puck forward and eschewing, for the most part, the passes between defensemen that so many teams use to start clearing the defensive zone.

    The defense will pick its spots to join the rush but will not hang back, either, coming forward enough toward the opposing blue line to oppose counter-attacks while being in position to jump into the offense.

    Defensive zone coverages will include a somewhat unique technique in which two defensemen converge on opponents in corners to force turnovers. If the defensemen get beat, forwards are expected to play stout defense.

Sounds like trouble. Big trouble.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

That part surely made me raise my eyebrows. If the puck carrier beats the double team, then it’s 5 on 3 forwards. I also don’t see how to run a proper breakout if the double team produces the hoped-for turnover.

The other part that got my attention was the part about the left D pressing forward along the wall during the forecheck. If everyone isn’t completely precise with their positioning, they’re going to get gashed.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

If everyone isn’t completely precise with their positioning, they’re going to get gashed.

That’s what she said.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this similar to an offensive left wing lock?

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

D’oh is correct. A lock system has two F pressure the puck on the forecheck, hoping to cause a turnover. The third guy “locks” by staying high in the offensive zone, ready to either cut into a shooting lane if the forecheckers force a turnover, or to pressure the breakout to the side boards if the opponent does exit the zone.

It’s basically a 2 – 1 – 2 forechecking system, but the “1” guy stays up near the blueline. The Caps use (mostly) a more aggressive 2 – 1 – 2 where the “1” guy pinches much lower in the zone to get a second opportunity to pressure the puck if the first two guys don’t get a turnover. Which is why Caps’ games tend to have a ton of flow.

A trap will use a 1 – 2 – 2 deployment, and depending on the level of aggression (or lack thereof) will move up or back on the ice with regard to where they start the forecheck.

I don’t know that I can recall ever seeing a 1 – 3 – 1 used, although the article mentions that Crawford uses it.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d change your description just a bit to say that a Left-Wing Lock is a 2-1-2 that, if played correctly, very quickly transitions into a 2-3, with the “high man” dropping back alongside the defensemen in the neutral zone. At least that’s how we always played it.

The Caps’ system has all three forwards below the blue line, even if the other team has clear possession. It can flow between being a 1-2-2 and a 2-1-2 based on positioning. One constant is that the high man/men very rarely drop back to the red line alongside the D. This is why you see so many 3-2s and 2-1s versus the Caps. The forward who’d normally be back helping out is up forcing the play at the blueline. It’s awesome when it works, but it does surrender chances the other way.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

What you describe re. a lock is what I envision in my head, basically, except that I think of the high man trying to push the puck to the boards, where it can be double teamed either by a backchecker or a D.

Completely agree with your analysis of the Caps forecheck.

I needed some MS Paint to really make it clear.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, I missed that they were going 1-3-1, and I thought they were looking to forecheck 2-1-2/2-3 if the left D could move up into the zone. 1-3-1 leaves a hell of a lot of open space for the breakout, which is what was said above. Got it, thanks.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The coach wants the puck on the sticks of his top six forwards

…so he’s going to put all of them out there at the same time.

BRILLIANT!

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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

we don’t need to stinkin’ defensemen!

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or a Goalie, for that matter.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like eschewing the D-to-D pass. If the quick up is there then take it, but D-to-D both buys time to let your forwards get open and gain speed and presents an opportunity to catch the other team out of position on the weak side (though I suspect this is much more prevalent at the men’s league level).

I also think sending both D to one guy in your own zone is asking for trouble.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t sound too complicated—seems like the Caps, but have two defensemen converge in the corner instead of a defenseman there and a defenseman hanging back to cover passes to the slot.

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by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The gap control of the D and the F D-zone sliding is going to be what is complicated.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And spacing on any ensuing breakout, no?

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breakout spacing isn’t as big an issue. If they want the top-6 to get the puck then you lose your breakout concern once they get it. Those are the guys that have the skill and creativity to make it up as they go along. There is some concern that two D in one corner can get scrambly, but if the puck pops loose to MSL I think the ’ning will be comfortable letting him play it by ear.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not F spacing, D spacing. One guy is always going to be scrambling to get in position to either support the breakout or deal with the rush that’s barreling back down the wing he’s responsible for.

Once they get the puck, with possession and control, to a forward (given who their F’s are) they’re in pretty good shape.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I guess it depends on how the breakout starts. It’s just really odd to think that both D would be in the same corner.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got that right, partner.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the players were also happy not to play with 3D on the ice.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My take is that this system will probably work for about 10-15 games until opposing coaches figure out how to exploit it.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovi B-Day
happy 25th birthday to The Great Eight. Don’t do anything we wouldn’t do tonight

JP, I have a feeling that every single second of Ovi’s life is something that you wouldn’t ever do. I mean, who grows up wanting to be a blogger….

by philarmy on Sep 17, 2010 12:13 PM EDT reply actions  

no insulting the Dear Leader without an avatar!

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think now’s a good time to note the difference between “wouldn’t” and “won’t”…

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

In this situation, I’m pretty sure both would make grammatical sense. ’Won’t’ would sound awkward in that sentence

by philarmy on Sep 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

They might make grammatical sense, but they change the meaning. J.P. will not be kicking ass and taking names in the NHL on a nightly basis the way Ovechkin will, but I’m sure he would if he could.

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah…
Won’t = Will Not
Wouldn’t = Would Not

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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Want = Brad Richards

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know we had a bunch of English professors here. I only used ’wouldn’t’ because JP used it in the quote …. happy now?

by philarmy on Sep 17, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we end the stupidest fucking argument in the history of this site now?

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

A powerful indictment, in light of seminrocks and his/her body of work…

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Duly noted and withdrawn.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about its? Do you have something against the transgendered community?

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I harbor no thoughts that may potentially be interpreted as unorthodox as it regards the TOS here…None. Zippy.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neg. A. Tivo.

Null quantity.

Void.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all good. :)

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing one rookie game wasn’t enough to set this group’s collective thoughts back to only hockey.

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by gfcaps fan on Sep 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re not exactly endearing yourself to the Rink faithful.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I promise you that there isn’t much Ovi would do that I wouldn’t in his position…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to pick nits but re Right Wing rankings

1) I thought Rick Nash played right wing and

2) Is there anyone who doesnt think Rick Nash is one of the top 10 wings in the league PERIOD?

by S h a g g y on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m pretty sure I’d take Nash over all 10 of the players listed by THN.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Training Camp Lack of Updates

…so little out of camp with no media on opening day with players reporting for the off-ice stuff (physicals, paperwork, etc.)

I was hoping to get an update on which, if any, FA invites and junior players aren’t staying for main camp.

Speculation only, but I assume Anderson will be sent back to Lethbridge and if all 6 of the other goalies are healthy that there’s a good chance they send Grubauer back to Kingston.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Updates from other camps -

mcerlain – NHLBruins: – “Chiarelli: Savard will not B skating due 2 symptoms (of) post-concussion syndrome.”

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice. So he was fine to play last May, but now that they are 3M over the cap, he isn’t feeling so well, eh?

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by macvechkin on Sep 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s call post-concussion syndrome (along with “over the cap” syndrome).

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, putting him on LTIR will free up some cap space and also clear out the C position as well.

Wonder if this means Seguin starts the year at C, now?

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Likely. Must suck for Savard.

I wonder how long he’d need to be on LTIR for this to work out?

by Vinn on Sep 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn’t start it at wing, I’m going to flense Claude Julien just for weakening my argument vs. F&B. (Even though I’m still right.)

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

.

Rec’d for the esoteric butchery reference.

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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a Judy Blume reference.

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by bilspacecadet on Sep 17, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you there God? It’s me, Claude Julien.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love reading Japers’ banter especially when I’m feeling cranky because it gets me laughing.

We missed the rookie game because my spouse was admitted to the hospital with a severe DVT. I’m feeling a whole lot of sympathy for Flash at the moment—this is scary stuff.

But the Judy Bloom bits have made my day as I sit here in the hospital.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hope all goes well for you guys. Your spouse will now put up career numbers and get a huge raise this year.

And I hear they have great locker room presence as well.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

To clarify: we missed watching the rookie game. We are only Caps and hockey fans. But when the doctors started talking about avoiding anything sharp and anything that involved hard contact I immediately flashed on Flash. Only now do I really understand what a big deal it was for Flash to have a DVT. Playing hockey with a DVT is a very bad idea.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I understood you were just fans and found an (unfortunate) window into what Flash went through. I was trying to add levity to the situation. Apologies if I was unclear.

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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry for misunderstanding. I was killing time while on a mobile and humor as well as snark doesn’t always translate to a tiny screen.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

best wishes, and hugs. My mom developed a clot when she broke her leg a couple years ago. Scary.

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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks. I am just glad he’s good about going to the doctor. And now I’ve gone OT so I will return to reading.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I think it’s an Archer reference.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

That, but also a reference to the rotundity of Julien.

Also, love whaling. And this.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just get over it. You have your names, I have my names. As a positive matter neither of us can “prove” our position. Just move along. I’d rather we just ignore the whole episode than you continue to re-hash and bastardize my arguments. And again, if it wasn’t clear, Seguin starting at wing does not actually relate to your argument because of the 3 very good Cs above him. But sure, take your post-argument pot shots.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lana.

Lana.

Lana.

LANA.

LANA.

LANA.

LANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT?!?!?!

Danger zone.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

You think you’re so smart. I bet you can’t even name the 7 houses of Parliament.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s how you get ants.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we agree to this:

Teams do it frequently, but likely with less than 50% of centers. Usually it’s done with highly talented offensive players that they want to get into the lineup but who A) can’t crack the top two lines as a center and, B) aren’t responsible enough to be a 3C and C) would be a waste if they only played 12-14 mins/night.

Putting them at wing gets their skill into the lineup while they learn to play in the NHL. Most of these players move back to C pretty quickly. Those on teams deep in C talent (Pitt, Phi, Bos) might keep shuffling for a while.

/danger zone/

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I can agree with that.

I also think I was getting wrapped up in a normative discussion which we weren’t really trying to have. I think it’s dumb, and I think if a kid, especially an 18 or 19 year old (h/t to the Copper ‘n Blue work) isn’t ready to play his position he’s probably not ready for the NHL and generally better suited for a lower league. Whether it’s better or not wasn’t really the issue though.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem, I think, is the stupid NHL or Juniors rule. I understand why it’s there, but it hurts a lot of these players.

Take a kid like Eakin. He’s good, and he’s certainly good enough that he’s not going to learn much more in Juniors. He’s probably not good enough to play in the NHL though, at least, not for the Caps.

But instead of going to Hershey and becoming acclimated to the pro game there, he’s got to go back to Swift Current. If, hypothetically, he played for Florida and Florida could use his skill/speed on their NHL team, I could see them keeping him around, but putting him at wing for a while, just to keep him in the lineup.

I think if that NHL or juniors rule for younger players went away, you’d probably see much less of this phenomenon.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the guys would take a normal apprenticeship in the AHL if they could. I don’t see that changing any time soon, though.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. The junior leagues would revolt if they lost their star players to the AHL.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tangent, but if anyone is interested, there are some good write-ups about the recent decision related to Jeremy Morin and AHL eligibility…following the same reasoning as to why Carlson was allowed to play in the AHL last year.

If so, I’ll track down one and post it.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m interested.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Count me in.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s one recent article, from what I know of reading Hicks’ work it’s not the greatest, but it provides a recent summary of the current issue.

Also, a number of write-ups on NCAA vs CHL of late with Kelly and College Hockey, Inc. Here’s the latest on that topic: U.S. colleges come knocking at Ontario’s hockey door

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

A bit more on the Morin clarification here (linked primarily b/c I dig the blog).

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks; I’ll take a look at other stuff on that blog, too, per your recommendation.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also think the CHL leagues force the more talented players to C even when they are better suited to W. I think that has two consequences. First, that is a big reason there is so much more C depth. Second, that’s a reason some of the Cs aren’t really ready to play C in the NHL; they’ve been getting by on just being so talented they don’t have to learn the intricacies. I think the more natural Cs, guys like Duchene, tend to be better suited for a quick transition.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree. A lot of C’s just gravitate there because they’re the best player growing up and that’s the easiest place to control the game from.

It’s one reason why I’m a fan of over-drafting C’s and then flipping them to W if they don’t pan out as C’s.

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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can buy that strategy but I think some guys are really C only. The C-to-W transition is probably the second easiest transition (W-to-other-W is the easiest), but the guys that really need to play in the middle of the ice, control the puck, and set up plays tend to drop off a lot when they move to W. The goal-scoring Cs tend to do better moving to W, IMO.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

From one of the articles linked just below:
But I don’t think we would hold back a player in his development so he would have that option, because if he is good enough at 19 [for the AHL], he’s going to play in the National Hockey League.

There’s a big jump from the AHL to NHL. Just because a 19 year old is ready for the AHL doesn’t mean you can just put him in the NHL. But if this scout is right, it looks like teams would rather rush a kid than let him spend “too much” time in the CHL.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silly question. What is the age limit when a guy has to go back to juniors?

This year, Eakin would have go back to Juniors if he doesn’t make the Caps. (DOB: May 25, 1991)

Yet, John Carlson didn’t make the Caps out of training camp but was sent to Hershey for most of the year. (DOB: Jan 10, 1990)

So what is the rule on it? Or is there a birthday cutoff somehow?

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm, an update from camp sort of: demike3316, Packin up…

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does he simply mean packing up to move locker rooms with main camp opening or something else?

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So yes, officially, he was not invited to main camp.

Vogel with the groups for camp.

Cuts: Pisano and LeFrancois; DeMichiel assigned to Hershey’s camp.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

So along with the Hershey contracted players and Hendricks, FA invitees from rookie camp Anderson and Cullity stick around.

by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damien Cox’s wikipedia has been vandalized in a manner that the juvenile in me quite appreciates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Cox

Have to wonder how long it’s been like that… Revision history suggests February 2010?

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Sep 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d screen cap it soon before they fix it.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

done. to be posted shortly

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

out of respect the the sentiments below, I’m not going to post it. but I do have it saved and can send you a link, if anyone wants to see it.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. It’s not that funny. Particularly if you’re remotely sensitive about mental handicap jokes.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I honestly hadn’t even looked at it when I commented. I just know that Wikipedia is going to fix any tomfoolery in a prompt fashion so if you like it, screen cap it.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

(Definitely a legit point, btw)

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec’d. That ain’t how we roll…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do like the part about how he’s been covering sports for twenty years “in spite of possessing very little knowledge about sports.”

by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come admire Dmitri Orlov’s new bauble

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

SAVE THE DATE

Hey all -

Japers’ Rink Caps Convention After Party
October 2, ~7:00 PM until whenever
Iron Horse Tap Room

You do NOT have to go to the Convention to join us for drinks thereafter. More info to follow, but I hope to see a lot of you there. Especially F&B and Laichitor…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   2 recs

Date = Saved. Now, what to wear?

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by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as I can get K_C to move his wedding date I’ll be there!

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was illegal for a goalie to marry his pads?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, wtf? Who gets married in October? (It’s funny b/c Pepper and I did, though not to each other.)

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some guy whose jerk brother took August. They had to respect the wedding buffer period, I guess. Talk to the womens about this.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

*
respect the wedding buffer period

You had an entire period of your wedding dedicated to buffers? That’s awesome.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was pretty awesome. And an outdoor wedding too!

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Naked buffer rodeos are my favorite memory of battalion.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, yeah, I won’t be spending my anniversary with y’all, sorry.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got married in October. (And we’ll be celebrating our anniversary by going to the Caps’ home opener.)

Okay, I’m OT.

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully someone steps up in your place when the tequila comes callin’…

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Laichitor should be up for the challenge if he comes out from hiding. Otherwise I’ll take a rain check. I’m sure you’ll end up there again.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Jose Cuervo tequila?

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a bit of a commute.

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: The Puck Stops Here

The salient point of that article is the recognition that D is undervalued. Lots of people already have commented on that, but I think it’s always important to keep in mind. Whenever you compare a player’s value, you are implicitly comparing offensive value based on the arsenal of stats we currently have. This also goes for “Quality” stats, and is one of my biggest problems with those stats. Tough defenders are very difficult to play against, and high quality in their own right, but they never get the credit they deserve in a statistical sense.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

That’ll be nice. He’ll get to live and play hockey near his dad again.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ouch.

I gotta say, 600k 2-way deal for a former 22-goal scorer. Damn. The Canes could easily get Flash-level value out of him next year, and if they don’t, they can just send him to the AHL.

Rutherford makes some mistakes, but he also has an uncanny ability to pick up value off the scrap heap.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rutherford has definitely done a good job on the scrap heap, the problem is in thinking he’s got more than he has. Picks up Samsonov and the guy has a great half-season and GMJR is a genius. Then he signs the extension.

O’Sullivan is worth a flyer. I’m not sure why nobody will touch the kid. I don’t think he’s great, but he has a very nice shot, seems to be a pure goal scorer, and is still young. For 600K, even if it was one-way, you could do a hell of a lot worse.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inconsistency and softness have been his main drawbacks.

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but for $600k on a two-way, that’s just huge value, especially for a team without a ton of offensive talent.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Inconsistency and softness can be said about some dude that signed for 2.6 one-way this off-season.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Truth be told I almost referred to Flash, as well as Lee Stempniak when replying

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And awful, awful defense.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It must be pretty damn awful. He can score 20 goals and has some upside still. BB might just love this guy.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

On (the appropriately-initialed) POS.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has his drawbacks, but he was also playing on an absolutely God-awful team last year. There are very few players from last year’s Oilers squad who looked even remotely good. In fact, he’s never played on a decent team.

I’m not saying I’d sell the farm to trade for him, I’m just saying that 600k for a guy with that much skill is a bargain.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, but being a standout (and not in a good way) on a particularly bad team can’t be ignored either. I mean, he was the worst forward on an awful team.

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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

And who had the next worse +/-?

Rod Brindamour, now the Canes director of “forwards development”. Ironical, aint it?

by S h a g g y on Sep 17, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guees that should read “next worst +/-”, or “More Worser”.

by S h a g g y on Sep 17, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s true! Armed with scorpion, astride a rabid Coyote.

by S h a g g y on Sep 17, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Said rabid Coyote was then accused by Damien Cox of being a shill for Ted Leonsis.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 17, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

And now that rabid coyote is now a hurricane, on a two-way contract looking to avoid parental contact.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or should be call him a Wiley Coyote?

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by CapsFan75 on Sep 18, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another angle to Belanger

I know that “hockey is a business,” and everyone (without an NTC or NMC) knows that they can be traded at any time, but how must it feel to be one of the players rumored to have been traded before l’affaire Belanger, and to now have that reality being trumpeted by the Caps’ senior writer?

I’m not on Vogel or the Caps for writing it, I’m just wondering how it must feel to be one of those guys (particularly if the team didn’t discuss it with them) who know must be wondering, “was it me?”

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh, that “was it me” or potential to be traded is always there. This might be a little closer to home, but I wonder how much the players even followed it. I also think there’s an element of “well, they didn’t get rid of me just so they could have Belanger, so they still want me.” Maybe it puts the spurs to some of our underachievers as well.

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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belanger

Vogel has posted another article on the Belanger negotiations from the Caps’ perspective.

http://dumpnchase.com/?p=266

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Sep 17, 2010 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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