Friday Caps Clips: Caps Rookies 4, Flyers Rookies 3
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- Programming note: don't miss tomorrow's episode of Japers' Rink Radio when Pepper and Russell celebrate their 20th episode with very special guests Ted Leonsis and Greg Wyshynski (that's not one, but two of The Hockey News' "100 People of Power and Influence" for those of you keeping score at home). Not to be missed.
- Recaps and other assorted musings from yesterday's win from Caps365 (video highlights), 106.7 The Fan (audio), CI, Peerless, Frankovic, Rink Rebel, OFB, Capitals News Network, Frequent Flyers (includes box score), Broad Street Hockey, Caps In Pictures (pictures), Caps Snaps (pictures), View From The Uppers (pictures).
- The LaVar Arrington Show with Chad Dukes broadcast live from Kettler yesterday, and you had to love Dukes' enthusiasm on Twitter, as well as radio hits with Bruce Boudreau, Nicklas Backstrom and more.
- Josh Godfrey put himself back on the radar screen yesterday. [Leone]
- Monster profile of George McPhee (by my favorite Postie). [WaPo]
- The Caps look ahead to the season by looking back on the last one (mind blown, right?). [NHL.com]
- Brooks Laich has a new nickname and is in mid-season quote form after a "miserable" summer. [Toronto Sun]
- The "early exit didn't spoil Ovie's summer," however. [Toronto Sun]
- Much more from (and on) AO. [NHL.com, NYT, CI, Caps365 (video)]
- And a few words from Mike Green. [CI, Caps365 (video)]
- Previewing the Caps in English... [Houses of the Hockey]
- ... and in French. [FrancoPresse via Google Translate]
- Speaking of previews, Capital Spirit wraps up his epic - and truly unique - look ahead to the Caps' 2010-11. [Capital Spirit]
- The Caps open at number two in one "power poll." [SportingNews]
- 30 in 30: Marcus Johansson. [Red Line Station]
- A question for each team in the East. [Puck Daddy]
- More questions. [USA Today]
- The Young Guns are all in the top dozen in ESPN's fantasy player rankings... [ESPN]
- ... and Alexander Semin is the fifth-best right wing in hockey. [THN]
- Prognosticatin' on Michal Neuvirth. [Peerless]
- Hard to believe, but there are still folks out there writing things like "what [Lou Lamoriello] did with the initial Kovalchuk offer was no less a circumvention of the CBA than ... what Washington did with Alex Ovechkin and Nicklas Backstrom." (In response to which I continue to point to this.) [SI (with a bizarre note lumping Ovi and Mike Wise together as well)]
- More "AO should've been MVP" fodder. [The Puck Stops Here]
- Garrett Mitchell: future Matt Bradley? [Masisak]
- Get to know new guy Dany Sabourin. [Flashy Glove Save]
- Eric Belanger: political football? [Kukla's Korner]
- In other former Caps
news, Jose Theodore is playing the waiting game, while Brendan Morrison is accepting a tryout with the Canucks. - Remember when the Caps selected Clayton Barthel in the 3rd round in 2004 (two picks before the Canucks took Alex Edler and nine before Detroit selected Johan Franzen)? Barthel recently signed with the Arizona Sundogs of the Central Hockey League. Oof. [Prescott eNews]
- Finally (and speaking of the Class of '04), happy 25th birthday to The Great Eight. Don't do anything we wouldn't do tonight... [More b-day coverage at Capitals Outsider]
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Knockout McPhee piece by Svrluga.
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Indeed. Surprised, though, that they couldn’t/wouldn’t work in a reference to the current situation, if only to bring in a quote or two from other GMs from the Mirtle piece re: his reputation.
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I was kind of looking for that, too, but I can imagine this piece was probably pretty complete before this situation boiled over.
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No doubt – a piece like that has been in the works for a looong time. But still, it could’ve been added. Or sidebar’d. But far be it for me to question how the Post’s NHL editor (or anyone over there) does her job.
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I agree. Great stuff.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow on that piece. Just wow.
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by WordsOnIce on Sep 17, 2010 9:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Svrluga is a freakin’ treasure. I’ve read it twice now.
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That was a great piece and count me in as one who only knew the broad strokes of McPhee’s prior life. I didn’t even bother with posters there though because so many McPhail Caps fans are on CI
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It was fantastic. Also, he “grew up” as it were under the guidance of Pat Quinn, Lou Lamoriello and Brian Burke – those are some seriously tough, influential guys who not only taught him the GM trade but have nothing but praise for him. After seeing that I was not at all surprised GMGM runs this team the way he does or that he has the reputation he does.
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Watching the video of last night’s goals (well, the 3 of them that were on the highlight reel), I have to say that only the Johansson-Galiev goal looks like an NHL goal. No way an NHL goalie allows the Godfrey slapshot that they did show to get through [insert Toskala joke here], though I would be curious to know what the other Godfrey goal looked like. And Eakin’s goal was a fantastic effort, but no NHL defense would play that situation that way, and Eakin will have to make that play even faster and wrap closer to the net to try that at the NHL level (and it probably still won’t work).
Nothing wrong with any of it, and good for those players for getting the goals they did. It’s just a reminder of what NHL hockey looks like. Those highlights made me hungrier for real hockey. Season can’t start soon enough.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 7:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The Johansson / Galiev goal, honestly, was a product of what happens when someone’s willing to plant themselves in the crease. Good on Galiev for going hard-nosed to the net. (That was something I liked about Eakin as well – willing to drive the net.)
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Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I thought this was interesting…A Caps shot breakdown for the time when Bobrovsky was in net, by the Flyers’ writer in attendance.
As I mentioned in the main piece in Friday’s Daily News training camp preview (which you should be buying at the newsstand), Bobrovsky is easily the most hyped rookie goalie in almost a decade.
That’d be like “Hank” being the most hyped comedy on ABC in a decade. It isn’t a deep pool.
That said, I thought Bobrovsky struggled over long stretches yesterday. Spent too much time swimming around in his crease trying to cover one or the other post. The Caps couldn’t finish plays. But it is only one game and, apparently, his first on a North American dimension rink and style of play.
If you've read this far...seek help.
are the nets and creases smaller in North American Hockey? Because the net came off the moorings on almost every save, and when I only saw players really hit the net in the scrum 3 or 4 times.
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I couldn’t fault Bobrovsky for that (although a lot of folks around us seemed to). He was just aggressive at planting his skate at the post most of the time. I wasn’t seeing any intent to move the net off its moorings.
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
More on Bobrovsky from Chesnokov
Good interview/read, IMO.
Excerpt:
" ‘I have only had two goaltending coaches in my career, and in the last few years I worked out alone,’ Bobrovsky said. "Of course, it slowed down my progress considerably…..Bobrovsky said the only coaching he had, was when he visited a two-week goalie camp held by a Finnish goaltending coach that another Russian, the Capitals’ Semyon Varlamov, also worked with."
Didn’t even read the write-up, I was posting in reference to the shot chart and the Caps’ prospects; however, it will be interesting to read now that I have read the perspective of some Caps fans on his performance.
Peerless, Nice job on the Neuvirth write-up. It is not said enough, but thank you for your blog. Your write-ups are great and required morning reading! Thank you.
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Huh. I’ve heard differing opinions (now) on Galiev’s willingness to go into traffic.
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Curious who was on the other side, because when that goal happened, Galiev was pretty firmly parked in the goaltender’s face. Whether it’s consistent? I’ve no idea, because I know for a fact he did it on that one occasion.
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Yeah, no disputing he did it once. Guess the observation was more about other shifts (and it was a back-and-forth b/t @tylergreendc and @cmasisak22).
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Okay, fair enough. Whether he does it consistently, I had a hard time telling as I was pretty close to the glass.
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Yeah to quote the guy at BSH:
Not too much at all. The first one was a Caps rush where their Galiev (who is as weak on the puck as anyone I’ve ever seen) was able to just push it through his legs as a gaggle of players crashed into the crease.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
From a Flyer perspective, that might be among the most damning comments one could make of a player. One rung above “purse carrying.” From my vantage, though, I thought Galiev had a pretty good game.
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No idea on my part. Had a car disaster, so I couldn’t go to the game, and the streaming feed wasn’t working.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
It was an author, I think. The BSH authors know their stuff.
At any rate, he just got drafted. Plenty of time to put on muscle.
by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Galiev also looked like he need a cheeseburger (or six). Just scrawny. If he doesn’t pack on some muscle and get better at protecting the puck in a couple years, then it’s time to worry. But for now? Eh. I’m excited to see him develop.
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(Galiev’s the one in the middle)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Where’d they get those ties, Commander Salamander?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Whoa! High school flashback.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Sep 17, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I know I’m late to the party today…so this may be mentioned further down.
The first one was a Caps rush where their Galiev (who is as weak on the puck as anyone I’ve ever seen) was able to just push it through his legs as a gaggle of players crashed into the crease.
— Comment made by Ben in the BSH link
For those of you there…did anyone notice this?
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by bilspacecadet on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
From the Laich "Grumpy" article
Coach Bruce Boudreau knows it’s the question his Capitals are going to face until next April.
“What did we learn? I don’t know what we learned,” he said at rinkside as the Caps skated in an informal workout in preparation for the first day of training camp Friday.
“You want it to be something profound. ‘You can’t take anybody for granted?’ We didn’t take them for granted. We outplayed them for six out of the seven games. We just didn’t win."
Whelp!…See you guys in 2011-12.
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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Not very reassuring, is it?
Sometimes profound lessons like that have pieces that take time to assemble, and one like this one might have to be assembled on the ice over the course of the season.
If it’s December and I don’t see any signs of figuring it out, I’ll worry then.
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I had that sort of attitude when Bruce was strutting this stance back after the loss. I thought maybe he needed more time to reflect. So here it is, days away from the first game, and I don’t think he feels any differently.
I like the reflection Brooks has done but we know how the players can talk one way but then have to perform in another.
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I don’t care about Bruce doing it, because he’s not on the ice. In the end, the players have to cash that check. They haven’t played a game since then. It’s the players who need to put it together, because like you said, saying one thing and doing another. Sometimes the pieces have to fall into place when you’re actually playing on the ice. I know it’s that way for me.
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Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
But if the coach didn’t learn a lesson how likely is it that the players perform differently?
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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do we know whether he learned something or not?
by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And if you’re going to react this way everytime you get a quote like this, you’re going to be miserable, because one thing seems certain — the public answer to this set of questions ain’t going to change all year.
I mean, for crying out loud, the guy says
“Maybe we’re better if we score 20 goals less and give up 20 less,” he said. "We have to be better defensively. We’ve been flashy and played for the fans. We have to be more soldier-like.
“When good teams play with the lead, they take you out of the game. They don’t let you off the floor. We had teams down and we let up. (Changing) is not going to happen right off the bat, but by February or March, you have to know how to play the right way. The last two months of the regular season, you really have to have your identity down and know how to play to win in the playoffs."
What the hell else are you looking for? They played their guts out and lost due in large part to bad luck. It’s the truth, and looking for them to find more reason in it ain’t going to help much. Let’s see how they play in April — who gives a damn what they say in September.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
The playoffs are completely and totally a crap shoot. The best team in the regular season doesn’t always win. Wacky things happen. It’s just the nature of the beast.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
The playoffs are completely and totally a crap shoot.
Really? It seems to me as though a lot of people picked Chicago and Philly to be the two teams in the finals before the season. It didn’t happen exactly how people thought it would, but things rarely do. Still, it’s not as though the outcome was completely improbable. With the exception of Carolina in ’06, and maybe Tampa in ’04, can you think of a totally out of the blue Stanley Cup Champ?
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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think I missed all the Philly picks (though in fairness to me, they couldn’t have been picked before needing a shootout win on the last day of the season to even make it into the playoffs).
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There were a ton of people picking Philly before the season after the Pronger acquisition. The team shambled through the regular season for a variety of reasons, but a lack of talent wasn’t one of them.
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Right on – I thought you meant pre-playoffs, not pre-season. But then I re-read where you wrote “before the season” and felt like a fucking idiot. Please accept my heartfelt apologies.
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I can think of “out of the blue” Stanley Cup Finalists though (immediately coming to mind are the 06 Oilers and the 91 North Stars). And I can also think of wacky upsets, like the Caps/Habs this past season, and the Pens/Islanders in 93 (thanks to the David Volek Game, and may God bless him eternally for it).
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Wacky upsets happen. Wacky finalists happen.
You know what also always happens?
A damn good teams wins the Cup – a team that at least a few people foresaw winning the Cup at some point. Had the ‘91 North Stars won the Cup, I’d say that was wacky, but they didn’t.
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But they beat the defending Cup Champions, beat a team that finished with 106 points, and beat a team that finished with 105 points to make the finals. They finished that season with 68 points.
That’s not wacky? It doesn’t matter in the end if they won or not, but the fact they went on the absolutely improbable run that they did, does.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
It doesn’t matter in the end if they won or not
Actually, this is the ONLY thing that matters. In the end, they lost to the best team in the NHL.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pittsburgh finished with 88 points. They weren’t even the best team in the Wales Conference that year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but go back and look at their roster. Recchi, Cullen, Stevens, Coffey, Lemieux, Jagr, Mullen, Errey, Murphy, Barasso…
The reason they sucked during the regular season was because Lemieux was out for almost all of it.
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And I could come back and throw Boston’s roster that year at you. Ray Bourque, Cam Neely. Dave Christian dropped 32 that year. Ken Hodge Jr. put up 30. Craig Janney dropped 26/66/92. Team had 3 guys with over 90 points. They only gave up 264 goals that year (Pittsburgh gave up 305). The only teams that gave up fewer were Montreal, Washington, St. Louis, and Chicago.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
This argument has derailed pretty widely from my original point.
Yes, improbable things happen in the playoffs, but it’s not a complete crapshoot by any means. Great teams tend to win the Cup. If it were a crapshoot, then teams like the ‘06 Oilers or the ’03 Ducks or the ’91 North Stars would win Cups on occasion. The fact of the matter is that they don’t.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Isn’t that what Laich says? Where did I say I wasn’t happy with what he said?
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Well, when the quote makes you throw an entire season out the window, I think it’s fair to say you’re not happy with it.
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HUH? First, that’s obvious snark and secondly it was Bruce’s quote and not Laichs which I said I had issue with.
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I didn’t take snark out of that at all. Sorry, I didn’t. I really thought you were serious.
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Yeah, not serious, I’ll definitely be attending up to 35 regular season games this year cheering for them to win and not secretly hoping for them to implode.
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I’m looking for the speech you quote to come from the coach. How they play in April is built on how they play in March, Feb, and so forth back to September. And how they play is built on how they plan to play, and how they practice how they plan to play. That comes back to the coach. Granted, the players have to execute, but they have to know what and how to execute — and that comes back to the coach.
Sure, wacky things happen, that’s why they play the games. But the Caps, too often, have been the “whackees” rather than the “whackers” I’d like to see them prepare, so they can overcome wacky things (aka “hot goalies”, “bad power plays” “not being able to score”), and so they can make the wacky things happen to someone else.
Sorry about the nested reply fail…
"Maybe we’re better if we score 20 goals less and give up 20 less," he said. "We have to be better defensively. We’ve been flashy and played for the fans. We have to be more soldier-like.
"When good teams play with the lead, they take you out of the game. They don’t let you off the floor. We had teams down and we let up. (Changing) is not going to happen right off the bat, but by February or March, you have to know how to play the right way. The last two months of the regular season, you really have to have your identity down and know how to play to win in the playoffs."
What else am I looking for? I’m looking for that speech to come from the coach. How they play in April is built on how they play in March, Feb, and so forth back to September. And how they play is built on how they plan to play, and how they practice how they plan to play. That comes back to the coach. Granted, the players have to execute, but they have to know what and how to execute — and that comes back to the coach.
Do I think they played their hearts out, and they were the victims of bad luck? I think they played their hearts out, but I’m tired of the bad luck argument.
Sure, wacky things happen, that’s why they play the games. But the Caps, too often, have been the "whackees" rather than the "whackers" I’d like to see them prepare, so they can overcome wacky things (aka "hot goalies", "bad power plays" "not being able to score"), and so they can make the wacky things happen to someone else.
I’m tired of rolling out the shot totals. I’m tired of this argument. Boudreau’s not wrong. The Caps outplayed Montreal 6 games out of 7.
They should have outplayed Montreal more, they should have gone to the net more etc. They could have done things to give themselves an even higher probability of winning. But the fact remains that what happened was incredibly unlikely.
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by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t need stats. I don’t think he’s wrong, I just don’t think it’s the right way for the coach to be responding. As tired as you are as hearing it from others I’m 100x more tired hearing it from Bruce.
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What else is he supposed to say?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Something better than, “I don’t know what we learned.” I really don’t believe I’m being unreasonable here.
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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because when the series is, in essence, a complete and utter statistical anomaly where otherworldy, insanely wacky things happen, there’s not much more you can say than “I don’t know what we learned”.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess you and Bruce can sit in the camp of trying to say you’ve learned nothing because if the Caps could replay the series they would probably, definitely, maybe, win the other 9 out of 10. For me, that’s just not good enough and it really presses some buttons.
I would much prefer even a “I respectfully invoke my rights under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution on the grounds that answering questions may incriminate me.” at this point.
And I guess that I won’t bring this subject up again here. I was just actually surprised to read that type of quote again this morning. I haven’t been hanging out here a lot this summer so maybe you guys beat this to a pulp 400 times and knew that Bruce wasn’t going to change his stance.
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I’m with Z. If nothing else, I’d just like BB to say “when you go up 3-1 you go for the kill. You don’t come out and drop a giant turd at center ice of your home rink.” Yeah, we probably did outplay them 6 out of 7 games (though I’m sure there’s room for argument). But the game that we were outplayed was hugely critical (even in the context of “all playoff games are critical”). Game 5 was when the Caps we know and hate showed up, let the Habs back in the series, and ultimately doomed us. I thought we’d still win the series after game 5, but I was pretty forlorn because I was hoping that this was the year the Caps finally found a killer instinct. It wasn’t. I’m not saying BB never acknowledged it, but there’s no reason he couldn’t have acknowledged it again instead of saying “I don’t know what we learned.”
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The series being a complete and utter statistical anomaly where otherworldy, insanely wacky things happen notwithstanding, there’s still not any reason you can’t take something from it. I mean, unless you completely steamroll a team, you can always take something from a playoff series.
by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I guess “shit happens” is something to take away….
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
where otherworldy, insanely wacky things happen
Why are we treating what happened as some sort of ridiculous improbability? There was a very good reason that many folks around here (myself included) were scared shitless of the Caps playing the Habs in the first round – they were essentially Caps Kryptonite. Great special teams that could negate our typical special teams advantage, a great goalie, a smart, experienced coach who had his team buying into a defense-first system, experienced defensemen who blocked a tone of shots, a record that was worse than it ought to have been due to significant injuries to key players (see also Flyers, Philadelphia)…
Let’s quit treating this as some sort of massive fluke. It was improbable, but it wasn’t unforeseeable.
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by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
What D’ohboy said. While we were in the middle of the “magic number” countdowns, the only team I feared was the Habs. The Caps were never able to solve them in the regular season. One regulation win, one OT win, one regulation loss, one OT loss. (One of the OT games may have gone to a shootout)
It may be important to consider that Li’l Stevie Y has been loading up on the Canadiens’ brain trust. Don’t think he’s not gunning right at Bruce Boudreau.
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I felt the exact same way going in.
My assertion of “wacky” things happening goes to the PP drought, and Alex Semin hitting the glass with every single shot. And Jaroslav Halak turning into Terry Sawchuk.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Alex Semin hitting the glass with every single shot, even if accurate, would be considered wacky? I thought that was the kind of thing people were afraid of when they noticed that Semin shoots top corner every single time instead of settling for getting the puck on net.
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I agree, that irked me. By game 7 it was pretty apparent that Bruce’s approach wasn’t guaranteeing wins, and I’m pretty sure everyone around here was calling for certain changes to be made (cough PK cough). But he didn’t. The fact that even now, 4 months later, he coming across as bewildered really bothers me and doesn’t give me much confidence should we face another situation like last year’s playoffs.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
While I agree that this is tired, the aggregate shot totals – or even game-by-game, period-by-period, distance, etc. – don’t tell the whole story.
To me, the first ten minutes of Game 5 was more telling.
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Bruce is not wrong. But how do you think “Hey, I dunno” plays in the room?
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The same as “Flash is starting tonight at 2C”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree. My guess is that Flash is much better-liked in the room than on fan sites.
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Probably. That was just the first meme that popped into my head.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s absolutely well-liked in the room – to the point where I heard some of the guys were upset that he was benched in Game 7.
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If true, that disturbs me greatly. Normally guys want the best chance to win. If they thought Flash was giving them the best chance to win…
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I didn’t want to be the one to say it…
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree it’s a little disturbing…just telling what I’ve heard. The only logic I can find in that thinking (and it’s minimal at best) is that maybe after losing a game 2-1 they were upset that a guy who – in theory, at least – can score was benched in favor of a guy who probably wasn’t going to score.
But yeah, I don’t know. I was happy to see Flash’s name on the scratched list.
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Well, the other theory is that guys like to go to “battle” with the guys they’ve been fighting with all year. Speaks more to comraderie than strategy.
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I can accept that to a degree, but at the same time you think these guys really want to win. I’m not sure what they saw in Flash that was helping them win. Obviously they all know much more about it than I do, but even BB thought Flash needed a benching (albeit too late for my liking). Yeah, in a 2-1 game a goal would be pretty nice, but what made anyone think that goal was coming from Flash? I’d have pegged Chimera, Bradley, Gordon… anyone to score before Flash, even if he had dressed.
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Yes. I agree. Just throwing the theory out there as a legit one. To a degree.
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The grammar police let you get away with “comraderie”? For shame.
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Yeah, shitty spelling. Sue me.
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You’re the lawyer, probably wouldn’t work out for me.
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Ah, but the attorney who represents himself has a fool for a client.
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I guess you and Bruce can sit in the camp of trying to say you’ve learned nothing because if the Caps could replay the series they would probably, definitely, maybe, win the other 9 out of 10. For me, that’s just not good enough and it really presses some buttons.
Having never been a pro athlete, I have absolutely no way to back this up but I have a deep suspicion that what is said to the press/public often bears little resemblance to what is said behind the closed doors of the lockerroom. I have no problem with how Bruce rationalizes the Montreal series to Dan Rosen or Katie because I haven’t heard one player or coach utter one syllable that implies that anything short of winning the Cup will be acceptable this season. That tells me that the message has been sent loud and clear and everyone is buying into it.
What’s the benefit of saying “I didn’t learn anything”?
Us thinking that Bruce is completely different in the locker room with these statements than he is to the press is a bit of wishful thinking. Everything about him seems to be very what you see is what you get.
That’s not even the issue for me though because we can’t prove it one way or the other. We’ve seen throughout the playoffs now that Bruce doesn’t really adjust.
Bruce sees fires and he’s really good at using water to put it out. However, come April, he keeps getting unlucky match-ups against chemical fires. Bruce keeps throwing water on it instead of finding a different way to extinguish the flame.
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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Bruce sees fires and he’s really good at using water to put it out. However, come April, he keeps getting unlucky match-ups against chemical fires. Bruce keeps throwing water on it instead of finding a different way to extinguish the flame.
Brilliant analogy.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Sep 17, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It seems to me that Bruce’s methods have always been offense first, let’s try to outscore the opponent. His thinking in the MTL series was just to keep throwing Ovi, Green, Semin, as much offense as possible and sooner than later the pucks would start going in. That never happened. He didn’t adjust. I guess he figured that at some point something had to give, and it did, a Caps loss in Game 7 and a first round exit.
It irks me too that Boudreau seems to acknowledge that some sort of adjustment should have been made during that series. One of the adjustments should have been benching Flash earlier.
I don’t think it’s that, but more like “we’ll break through sooner or later” (which is why Flash kept playing late in the season and in the playoffs, I think).
by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s not particularly unusual for coaches to say things in public that are quite different to what goes on behind closed doors. Heck, just watch the Nats. Jim Riggleman will, without fail, back up his guys and take the blame publicly; in the locker room, he apparently won’t hesitate to let it rip. It happens at the college level, too (the stories my husband has from his playing days….)
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It seems weird if BB can call out his players at times during press conferences (IIRC) and then not call them out here too.
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The procedure went perfectly! Whaddya mean the patient is dead?!
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Barthel – Ha, I noticed that the other day, loved the headline of the news release I saw…“”http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/releases/?id=4091625" >former NHL draft pick"…marketing :)
In related news, sort of, and an apology if this has already been mentioned, but ‘05 pick Daren Machesney has been invited to Columbus’ training camp due to some goalie injuries in the organization. There was also an article about ’06 pick Keith Seabrook the other day….future considerations….
Sanity check please.
I was reading on another forum elsewhere an assertion that “Mike Green’s defensive woes can be laid at the feet of Bruce Boudreau and nobody else.” My initial reaction is “that’s so stupid I don’t know where to start”. Any thoughts?
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That’s so stupid I don’t know where to start.
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That said, I certainly think it’s possible that with a different coach, different D-partners, etc., he might be a more sound defenseman at this point in his career.
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Sure, but that’s always true of most young D-men, isn’t it? What about him is so different?
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He’s Mike Green whereas other 24 year old defenseman aren’t.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
A flimsy argument at best. :)
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Meaning he’s under the spotlight. If Green weren’t famous for his offense, I doubt his defense would be criticized for not being as good as his offense, which is the case, now.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If his defense was as good as his offense he’d be God.
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His numbers actually compare rather favorably to Doughty, even the more arcane ones.
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
which brings us back to the whole “Mike Green is much better at defense than 99% (and 100% of Philly hockey writers!) of people give him credit for”
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Green is carrying the cross, but Varly saves.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And Semin is the holy (playoff) ghost?
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That said, I certainly think it’s possible that with a different coach, different D-partners, etc., he might be a more sound defenseman at this point in his career.
but would he be in the record books? (I ask this seriously)
Or am I completely wrong? Maybe it’s not a zero-sum game. Maybe he could, at 24, be elite offensively and defensively.
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It’s an unanswerable hypothetical. There’s certainly a camp that believes that all Bruce has done for Green’s development is unshackle him and turned him loose and that any progress he’s made is simply natural maturing/development.
To the original point – "Mike Green’s defensive woes can be laid at the feet of Bruce Boudreau and nobody else." – I’d say that if there’s one person at whose feet Mike Green’s defensive woes could be laid, it’s Mike Green.
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thanks.
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I agree with that, and I thank God he broke into the league with Hanlon. How bad would his D be if BB was the only pro coach he knew? But at the same time, would Green’s offensive dominance be the same with any other coach besides BB? If out-scoring the other team is the point of the game, and Green helps do that because of his offense, blah blah blah.
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…where it says, “ignore this nonsense.”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I really just think D is too tough for him so he should acclimate as a Wing.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tattoo Sleeves
Did you guys see these tattoo sleeves the NHL is marketing this year? I just heard about them last week. I did a search and didn’t see any mention of it so I figured I’d post it.

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The MLS have been doing those tat sleeves the last two years. The Toronto FC club here have sold them and in all honesty, they are pretty damn laughable.
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Puck Daddy had a post on these a couple of weeks ago. And they were selling them at VC last season. They are… awful.
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Oh wow, I had no idea they were in the VC last season. I would like a revamp of the greenlife52 picture with him sporting two of these bad-boys =]
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I saw someone walking around the VC with one. made me want to barf.
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Truely is a bizzare inclusion of MIke Wise in Kelley’s article. If I’m not mistaken, his “sprited debate” on Wise’s show with “attack-puppy co-host” (Bill Rohland, at the time) was when Kelly said he was there in Buffalo when Ov ran Briere into the boards. Of course, that happened in DC and I believe Nate Ewell noted that Kelley wasn’t even on the press list for that game.
BTW, I’m not sure that calling someone names is befitting a HHOF writer.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
He knows he can make a compelling case in that what he did with the initial Kovalchuk offer was no less a circumvention of the CBA than what Detroit Red Wings owner Mike Ilitch did with contracts for several veteran players, or what Philadelphia Flyers owner Ed Snider did with his “retirement” contract for Chris Pronger.
Why do people STILL NOT REALIZE WHAT A 35+ CONTRACT IS?!!
ROAR!!!!!!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe that’s why retirement is in quotations? (not sure why i’m giving kelley the benefit of the doubt.)
my personal reading of the events: even if the pronger contract is a 35+ contract—and it is—the flyers should still be held accountable for attempting to circumvent the cap so long as that were their misguided intention—and it was.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. The Flyers have done some pretty questionable things, but I have a hard time believing that nobody up there knew the ramifications of signing the guy to a 35+ contract of that length.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
You think it was intentional and not just a screw up? That would seem to contradict this report from around the time of the signing:
If Chris Pronger retires with term and salary remaining on his contract after next season, does his money stay on the Flyers’ cap?
There’s some confusion today in Philadelphia over that simple question.
According to the NHL, the answer is yes. The seven-year, $35 million extension Pronger agreed to on Tuesday doesn’t commence until after June 30, 2010. Pronger will be 35 at that point and any remaining salary will remain on the cap.
The Flyers disagree and interpret the CBA language governing the “over 35” clause differently.
Sources say the Flyers’ lawyers are now aware of the league’s stance and are debating this issue.
Seems to me they were unaware of how the rule is applied when they signed Pronger.
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Good heavens.
Don’t teams have people who’s entire JOB is to manage the salary cap and CBA? Did the Flyers miss out on that?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If that’s the case, Paul Holmgren should have been fired immediately.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
his saving grace might be the new CBA negotiations, where it’s been rumored that many of these contracts will receive a “get out of jail free” card. otherwise i have no idea.
their reasoning could have been that pronger had SIGNED the deal when he was under 35? but daly came out and made it as clear as possible. i did a lot of talking about this here and at BSH at the time. it’s when i met MarioD. memory lane I, memory lane II. and our discussion here at japers’.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I believe that’s what I heard. Pronger signed the deal before he was 35, but the deal didn’t start until after he tuirned 35.
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i was reminded of this whole affair during the excellent don fishman interview on japers’ rink radio. fishman explicitly discusses the practice of calling up bill daly’s office if there is ever a question about the NHL’s interpretation of the CBA. he says he’s done it on a number of occasions.
why the flyers didn’t get that answer from the league before putting it in ink, i have no clue.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
because they’re the Flyers?
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i left out memory lane III, the episode where sombrero guy comes to my defense. still don’t get where travis was coming from in that article. both his confidence the deal would come off the books (what, because larry brooks says so?) and his confidence in flyers management (despite the already circulating dreger report).
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
And I really hope the next CBA does not include the get out of jail free cards. That’s crap.
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if it were put up to a vote, i’d hope the majority of owners wouldn’t want the get out of jail free cards. really only the teams that went down this rode, which is far less than half.
that said, i don’t know the internal politics between owners, and the NHLPA is going to make sure their players get paid one way or the other.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
you beat me to it. (darren dreger with the report btw, for those that don’t click through.)
plus, even without dreger’s report, why the hell would any team give pronger that many years if they knew it was a 35+ contract? or bother to structure the deal in such a front-loaded fashion? since the guy’s going to get paid either way, and it’s going to count against the cap either way, i’d think an ownership group would want to do it the other way around if all else were the same (with more money in the later years so they would have some delay in paying out).
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
PLUS there was a no-movement clause in the contract! seemingly will prevent the flyers from moving old/slow pronger to the AHL, or (possibly) trading him to a team near the salary cap basement. all the contract details just scream “we’re signing this guy to an under-35 deal and he’s going to retire early.”
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
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so long as that was their misguided intention
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m still trying to decide whether Kelley and his ilk (first time I’ve used that word in print) are just stupid or intentionally being jerky when lumping the OV/Backis contracts with the goofy ones. Then maybe it’s not the contracts that are goofy, just the writers.
It’s all wrong, but it’s all right.
Stupid and lazy is my take. Probably lazy even more than stupid. Not that it’s so hard to take a look at capgeek to find the contract details.
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by EmilyB on Sep 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Probably both, considering the kind of stuff Kelley has written about Ovie in the past.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
With Muir I said he should know better about the contractual differences and he did edit his piece to make it factually correct. However with Kelley I believe that he probably does know but prefers to paint Ovi and the Caps in as negative and misleading a light as possible.
Has anyone tried to tweet him about his errors. That is if he tweets?
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by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
If anyone can find the “comments” button on Kelley’s article, please point me to it. SI must be the last (theoretically) MSM without the ability to comment on an article.
WaPo, NYT, WSJ, ESPN, CNN, MSNBC all allow comments from readers on every single article as far as I can tell.
C’mon SI – open it up.
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As far as I can tell, no comments button. But you can e-mail him.
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Naah. Public humiliation is so much more satisfying.
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Agreed. But letting him know he is writing idiotic statements is still fun.
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Yeah I emailed A LOT in response to his horrible piece after Ovi’s first suspension. I took the high road meaning I didn’t call him an asshole but I wreaked havoc on his points one-by-one and suggested that he take Ted up on his offer to come and watch Ovi and Caps play at the Phonebooth.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you see him play beyond his two good PP shots :-)? Ick.
by DrinkingPartner on Sep 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he didn’t… and maybe another NHL club didn’t either…
But yeah.
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i didn’t. that was just a fun comment to write out. though after reading the leone article i’m still not sure about godfrey’s chances of making hershey this year. can someone closer to the bears tell us how the top 6 D are shaking out?
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 17, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Corey had this guess:
Patrick McNeill-Lawrence Nycholat
Brian Fahey-Zach Miskovic
Patrick Wellar-Sean Collins
Dylan Yeo-Joe Finley
And Mark French “”http://ravingsofarinkrebel.blogspot.com/2010/09/rookie-camp-day-5-rookie-game.html" target="new">did express doubts on his playing at the AHL level next year. He said that Finley needs to ‘play at a higher pace’ in order to make it in the AHL."
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I believe you’re legally required to call him “Big Joe Finley.”
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Fig Boe Jinley
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Big Foe Jinley
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Kroll should see playing time at the AHL level, add to it that McNeill and Miskovic might not be ready to start the year, but I’d slot him in over Finley at this time, fwiw. Of note, working from memory, Fahey and Kroll are right shots.
See below for some additional comments on this topic; also, hadn’t read that write-up by Corey M (usually read his stuff, but didn’t realize he had the Hershey and SC info. in there; funny since I just typed something up in response to a SC/ECHL question without seeing it, but pretty close comparing the two in terms of Hershey assignments vs SC).
Related: awesome Sean Collins contract…
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I give Stevenson even odds of making HER as Finley.
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And they’re both awfully big, and definitely too beaucoup for HER to take both of them at once…
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And we have a winner for our “Most Revolting Double Entendre” Award.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Give me Joudrey…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Oops — already there
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
All dependent on injuries, performance, other roster transactions (trades/other acquisitions, etc.)
Defensemen (22 contracts known at this time across the 3 organizations):
- 14 under NHL contract
- 4 on AHL contracts with Hershey
- 4 announced contracts with SC
- Assuming Washington carries 7 or 8 dmen and Hershey carries at least 7 or 8 to start the season, would mean anywhere from 1 to 3 get sent down to SC, if not more; the most likely candidates to head to SC, IMO, are Godfrey, Stevenson and Finley. However, Patrick McNeill and Zach Miskovic may not be ready to start the season due to off-season shoulder surgery and a development camp knee injury, respectively, so that alters the landscape depending on their status.
Rangers Third Jersey?
I give it a thumbs up

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:33 AM EDT reply actions
J’approve.
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that Rivers Cuomo?
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by zephyr on Sep 17, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can’t tell if it’s black or navy blue. If it’s black, fail. If it’s navy blue, moderate pass, but I liked the Lady Liberty navy blue thirds a lot better.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
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I liked the Liberty logo on the white. That was a sharp sweater.

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Gretz should have put on white gloves.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re joking, right? I hated that sweater.
by RCheli on Sep 17, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am not joking. Funny thing about tastes – they vary from person to person.
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I thought that I was the person who told you what to like! Huh… must’ve been a breakdown in communication somewhere.
That’s the thing about a communication breakdown. It’s always the same.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
“Horse With No Name” was a terrible song?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sure was. “Sister Golden Hair” is no picnic either. In fact, their whole catalog… ugh.
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I did “You Can Do Magic” as a joke at karaoke once.
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Must admit that that particular song is a favorite of mine (and makes me think of better days with the Baltimore Orioles).
Last year (2009), I was playing it in the office during the playoffs. I wasn’t able to play it the day of the infamous Game 7 of the Caps-Pens game. (Was that the problem?)
Rocking the Red since 1975
hated those sweaters. still hate them.
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I always wondered how Gretzky could score that much wearing a colander on his head. I have a hankerin’ to strain pasta or something.
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Rangers 1977-1978 Throwback uniforms

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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup… throw ’em back
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Horizontal stripes and throat laces? Winner.
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by CapitalCentre on Sep 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Why does he look like an extra from “Revenge of the Nerds?”
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Are the glasses part of the uniform?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 17, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, Laich sounds pissed
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Sep 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
“I couldn’t ride the bike far enough or lift enough weights to get it out. People at home tell me how fun we are to watch and how we’re going to be good again this year. I get sick and tired of hearing that. The guys have to know that’s not acceptable, to be good and not win.”
Somewhere Alexander Semin is reevaluating his whole approach to the game.
by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Somewhere Alexander Semin is reevaluating his whole approach to the game.
We wish.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah…perhaps “Somewhere Alexander Semin is furrowing his brow in confusion” would have been better snark.
by David Getz on Sep 17, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Perhaps “Somewhere Semin is playing the bongos”.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s his best Burt Reynolds impression.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Audition for Mattress Discounters commercial
Bruce can’t do ALL the ads…
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like a position a little kid might get into in order to hold it in.
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Sad news
Warnings and all that this was imminent, still very sad news….reports are that Pat Burns has passed away.
:(
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Fan 590: Ray Ferraro on The TEAM 1040 reports that former Maple Leafs Head coach Pat Burns has passed away at the age of 58.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I should know better than to post news like this quickly. Sounds like some people are still confirming whether this sad news is true.
Oof. The rush to be first on something like this can produce such awkward (and unnecessary) results.
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Yes, I understand. FWIW, I wasn’t really trying to be first at anything on this, just adding the info. and my thoughts on what I appeared to be very sad news, Appeared being the operative word and my mistake. I was relying on some people I trust, but relying on their twitter and realize they were retweeting others, sorry.
Oh, I know – I meant on Twitter. You weren’t reporting, you were citing lousy reporting. There’s a big difference.
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All clear.
The tweets by McKenzie quoting Burns…classic Burns. So happy news, Burns is still battling.
Wonder if he’ll read any of what was written about him in those minutes in between. It’d be pretty nuts to read/hear what everyone would say about you thinking you were dead…
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DGB: So apprently death knocked on Pat Burns’ door this morning; Burns sent its ass to the pressbox for not backchecking.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
They’ve pulled the story I linked to. Oy.
I feel so bad for the poor guy.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The only good parts to this story:
- Pat Burns giving quotes about his ‘death’
- and Wyshynski’s recent tweet: “http://tinyurl.com/23vfp4e RT @DamoSpin Gotta love how some people appoint themselves”
and this:McKenzie with a wonderful piece, as usual
by sk84fun_dc on Sep 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
the good folks at RMNB posted that Bruce has yet another new commercial. You can watch it here.
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Skeptical about TBL
Puck Daddy has a post on the new system that the TBL will use this year.
It sounds complicated, innovative and like it will require very good execution not to break down.
To that extent – and note that I am not comparing the substance here – it sounds a lot like Butch Cassidy and what he tried to implement in DC. I don’t remember the particulars, but I recall that after he was gone, the players all heaved a collective sigh of relief, and said that the system was so complicated, and had so many reads, that they spent all their time trying to figure out what their next move was to be.
I am skeptical that this system will work out with NHL guys that have spent their life trying to play simple hockey.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
This
The coach wants the puck on the sticks of his top six forwards. That means immediately moving the puck forward and eschewing, for the most part, the passes between defensemen that so many teams use to start clearing the defensive zone.
The defense will pick its spots to join the rush but will not hang back, either, coming forward enough toward the opposing blue line to oppose counter-attacks while being in position to jump into the offense.
Defensive zone coverages will include a somewhat unique technique in which two defensemen converge on opponents in corners to force turnovers. If the defensemen get beat, forwards are expected to play stout defense.
Sounds like trouble. Big trouble.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
That part surely made me raise my eyebrows. If the puck carrier beats the double team, then it’s 5 on 3 forwards. I also don’t see how to run a proper breakout if the double team produces the hoped-for turnover.
The other part that got my attention was the part about the left D pressing forward along the wall during the forecheck. If everyone isn’t completely precise with their positioning, they’re going to get gashed.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Is this similar to an offensive left wing lock?
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
D’oh is correct. A lock system has two F pressure the puck on the forecheck, hoping to cause a turnover. The third guy “locks” by staying high in the offensive zone, ready to either cut into a shooting lane if the forecheckers force a turnover, or to pressure the breakout to the side boards if the opponent does exit the zone.
It’s basically a 2 – 1 – 2 forechecking system, but the “1” guy stays up near the blueline. The Caps use (mostly) a more aggressive 2 – 1 – 2 where the “1” guy pinches much lower in the zone to get a second opportunity to pressure the puck if the first two guys don’t get a turnover. Which is why Caps’ games tend to have a ton of flow.
A trap will use a 1 – 2 – 2 deployment, and depending on the level of aggression (or lack thereof) will move up or back on the ice with regard to where they start the forecheck.
I don’t know that I can recall ever seeing a 1 – 3 – 1 used, although the article mentions that Crawford uses it.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I’d change your description just a bit to say that a Left-Wing Lock is a 2-1-2 that, if played correctly, very quickly transitions into a 2-3, with the “high man” dropping back alongside the defensemen in the neutral zone. At least that’s how we always played it.
The Caps’ system has all three forwards below the blue line, even if the other team has clear possession. It can flow between being a 1-2-2 and a 2-1-2 based on positioning. One constant is that the high man/men very rarely drop back to the red line alongside the D. This is why you see so many 3-2s and 2-1s versus the Caps. The forward who’d normally be back helping out is up forcing the play at the blueline. It’s awesome when it works, but it does surrender chances the other way.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
What you describe re. a lock is what I envision in my head, basically, except that I think of the high man trying to push the puck to the boards, where it can be double teamed either by a backchecker or a D.
Completely agree with your analysis of the Caps forecheck.
I needed some MS Paint to really make it clear.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Ah, I missed that they were going 1-3-1, and I thought they were looking to forecheck 2-1-2/2-3 if the left D could move up into the zone. 1-3-1 leaves a hell of a lot of open space for the breakout, which is what was said above. Got it, thanks.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
The coach wants the puck on the sticks of his top six forwards
…so he’s going to put all of them out there at the same time.
BRILLIANT!
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by ThePeerless on Sep 17, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
we don’t need to stinkin’ defensemen!
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I don’t like eschewing the D-to-D pass. If the quick up is there then take it, but D-to-D both buys time to let your forwards get open and gain speed and presents an opportunity to catch the other team out of position on the weak side (though I suspect this is much more prevalent at the men’s league level).
I also think sending both D to one guy in your own zone is asking for trouble.
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It doesn’t sound too complicated—seems like the Caps, but have two defensemen converge in the corner instead of a defenseman there and a defenseman hanging back to cover passes to the slot.
by red army line on Sep 17, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The gap control of the D and the F D-zone sliding is going to be what is complicated.
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Breakout spacing isn’t as big an issue. If they want the top-6 to get the puck then you lose your breakout concern once they get it. Those are the guys that have the skill and creativity to make it up as they go along. There is some concern that two D in one corner can get scrambly, but if the puck pops loose to MSL I think the ’ning will be comfortable letting him play it by ear.
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Not F spacing, D spacing. One guy is always going to be scrambling to get in position to either support the breakout or deal with the rush that’s barreling back down the wing he’s responsible for.
Once they get the puck, with possession and control, to a forward (given who their F’s are) they’re in pretty good shape.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
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JP, I have a feeling that every single second of Ovi’s life is something that you wouldn’t ever do. I mean, who grows up wanting to be a blogger….
no insulting the Dear Leader without an avatar!
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by RedBirdie on Sep 17, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In this situation, I’m pretty sure both would make grammatical sense. ’Won’t’ would sound awkward in that sentence
Yeah…
Won’t = Will Not
Wouldn’t = Would Not
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t know we had a bunch of English professors here. I only used ’wouldn’t’ because JP used it in the quote …. happy now?
Can we end the stupidest fucking argument in the history of this site now?
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
A powerful indictment, in light of seminrocks and his/her body of work…
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by fat_daddyo on Sep 17, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
What about its? Do you have something against the transgendered community?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I harbor no thoughts that may potentially be interpreted as unorthodox as it regards the TOS here…None. Zippy.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
You’re not exactly endearing yourself to the Rink faithful.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I promise you that there isn’t much Ovi would do that I wouldn’t in his position…
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Not to pick nits but re Right Wing rankings
1) I thought Rick Nash played right wing and
2) Is there anyone who doesnt think Rick Nash is one of the top 10 wings in the league PERIOD?
I’m pretty sure I’d take Nash over all 10 of the players listed by THN.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Training Camp Lack of Updates
…so little out of camp with no media on opening day with players reporting for the off-ice stuff (physicals, paperwork, etc.)
I was hoping to get an update on which, if any, FA invites and junior players aren’t staying for main camp.
Speculation only, but I assume Anderson will be sent back to Lethbridge and if all 6 of the other goalies are healthy that there’s a good chance they send Grubauer back to Kingston.
Updates from other camps -
mcerlain – NHLBruins: – “Chiarelli: Savard will not B skating due 2 symptoms (of) post-concussion syndrome.”
Nice. So he was fine to play last May, but now that they are 3M over the cap, he isn’t feeling so well, eh?
Choking since 1985.
Well, putting him on LTIR will free up some cap space and also clear out the C position as well.
Wonder if this means Seguin starts the year at C, now?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
If he doesn’t start it at wing, I’m going to flense Claude Julien just for weakening my argument vs. F&B. (Even though I’m still right.)
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought it was a Judy Blume reference.
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by bilspacecadet on Sep 17, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you there God? It’s me, Claude Julien.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love reading Japers’ banter especially when I’m feeling cranky because it gets me laughing.
We missed the rookie game because my spouse was admitted to the hospital with a severe DVT. I’m feeling a whole lot of sympathy for Flash at the moment—this is scary stuff.
But the Judy Bloom bits have made my day as I sit here in the hospital.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Hope all goes well for you guys. Your spouse will now put up career numbers and get a huge raise this year.
And I hear they have great locker room presence as well.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
To clarify: we missed watching the rookie game. We are only Caps and hockey fans. But when the doctors started talking about avoiding anything sharp and anything that involved hard contact I immediately flashed on Flash. Only now do I really understand what a big deal it was for Flash to have a DVT. Playing hockey with a DVT is a very bad idea.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I understood you were just fans and found an (unfortunate) window into what Flash went through. I was trying to add levity to the situation. Apologies if I was unclear.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry for misunderstanding. I was killing time while on a mobile and humor as well as snark doesn’t always translate to a tiny screen.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
best wishes, and hugs. My mom developed a clot when she broke her leg a couple years ago. Scary.
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Thanks. I am just glad he’s good about going to the doctor. And now I’ve gone OT so I will return to reading.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just get over it. You have your names, I have my names. As a positive matter neither of us can “prove” our position. Just move along. I’d rather we just ignore the whole episode than you continue to re-hash and bastardize my arguments. And again, if it wasn’t clear, Seguin starting at wing does not actually relate to your argument because of the 3 very good Cs above him. But sure, take your post-argument pot shots.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Lana.
Lana.
Lana.
LANA.
LANA.
LANA.
LANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT?!?!?!
Danger zone.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You think you’re so smart. I bet you can’t even name the 7 houses of Parliament.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can we agree to this:
Teams do it frequently, but likely with less than 50% of centers. Usually it’s done with highly talented offensive players that they want to get into the lineup but who A) can’t crack the top two lines as a center and, B) aren’t responsible enough to be a 3C and C) would be a waste if they only played 12-14 mins/night.
Putting them at wing gets their skill into the lineup while they learn to play in the NHL. Most of these players move back to C pretty quickly. Those on teams deep in C talent (Pitt, Phi, Bos) might keep shuffling for a while.
/danger zone/
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Yeah I can agree with that.
I also think I was getting wrapped up in a normative discussion which we weren’t really trying to have. I think it’s dumb, and I think if a kid, especially an 18 or 19 year old (h/t to the Copper ‘n Blue work) isn’t ready to play his position he’s probably not ready for the NHL and generally better suited for a lower league. Whether it’s better or not wasn’t really the issue though.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
The problem, I think, is the stupid NHL or Juniors rule. I understand why it’s there, but it hurts a lot of these players.
Take a kid like Eakin. He’s good, and he’s certainly good enough that he’s not going to learn much more in Juniors. He’s probably not good enough to play in the NHL though, at least, not for the Caps.
But instead of going to Hershey and becoming acclimated to the pro game there, he’s got to go back to Swift Current. If, hypothetically, he played for Florida and Florida could use his skill/speed on their NHL team, I could see them keeping him around, but putting him at wing for a while, just to keep him in the lineup.
I think if that NHL or juniors rule for younger players went away, you’d probably see much less of this phenomenon.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Yeah, the guys would take a normal apprenticeship in the AHL if they could. I don’t see that changing any time soon, though.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Yeah. The junior leagues would revolt if they lost their star players to the AHL.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Tangent, but if anyone is interested, there are some good write-ups about the recent decision related to Jeremy Morin and AHL eligibility…following the same reasoning as to why Carlson was allowed to play in the AHL last year.
If so, I’ll track down one and post it.
Here’s one recent article, from what I know of reading Hicks’ work it’s not the greatest, but it provides a recent summary of the current issue.
Also, a number of write-ups on NCAA vs CHL of late with Kelly and College Hockey, Inc. Here’s the latest on that topic: U.S. colleges come knocking at Ontario’s hockey door
A bit more on the Morin clarification here (linked primarily b/c I dig the blog).
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I also think the CHL leagues force the more talented players to C even when they are better suited to W. I think that has two consequences. First, that is a big reason there is so much more C depth. Second, that’s a reason some of the Cs aren’t really ready to play C in the NHL; they’ve been getting by on just being so talented they don’t have to learn the intricacies. I think the more natural Cs, guys like Duchene, tend to be better suited for a quick transition.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Totally agree. A lot of C’s just gravitate there because they’re the best player growing up and that’s the easiest place to control the game from.
It’s one reason why I’m a fan of over-drafting C’s and then flipping them to W if they don’t pan out as C’s.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I can buy that strategy but I think some guys are really C only. The C-to-W transition is probably the second easiest transition (W-to-other-W is the easiest), but the guys that really need to play in the middle of the ice, control the puck, and set up plays tend to drop off a lot when they move to W. The goal-scoring Cs tend to do better moving to W, IMO.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
From one of the articles linked just below:
But I don’t think we would hold back a player in his development so he would have that option, because if he is good enough at 19 [for the AHL], he’s going to play in the National Hockey League.
There’s a big jump from the AHL to NHL. Just because a 19 year old is ready for the AHL doesn’t mean you can just put him in the NHL. But if this scout is right, it looks like teams would rather rush a kid than let him spend “too much” time in the CHL.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Silly question. What is the age limit when a guy has to go back to juniors?
This year, Eakin would have go back to Juniors if he doesn’t make the Caps. (DOB: May 25, 1991)
Yet, John Carlson didn’t make the Caps out of training camp but was sent to Hershey for most of the year. (DOB: Jan 10, 1990)
So what is the rule on it? Or is there a birthday cutoff somehow?
Rocking the Red since 1975
So yes, officially, he was not invited to main camp.
Vogel with the groups for camp.
Cuts: Pisano and LeFrancois; DeMichiel assigned to Hershey’s camp.
Damien Cox’s wikipedia has been vandalized in a manner that the juvenile in me quite appreciates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damien_Cox
Have to wonder how long it’s been like that… Revision history suggests February 2010?
You had me at no problem.
I’d screen cap it soon before they fix it.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
done. to be posted shortly
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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out of respect the the sentiments below, I’m not going to post it. but I do have it saved and can send you a link, if anyone wants to see it.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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Meh. It’s not that funny. Particularly if you’re remotely sensitive about mental handicap jokes.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I honestly hadn’t even looked at it when I commented. I just know that Wikipedia is going to fix any tomfoolery in a prompt fashion so if you like it, screen cap it.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
(Definitely a legit point, btw)
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Rec’d. That ain’t how we roll…
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Hey all -
Japers’ Rink Caps Convention After Party
October 2, ~7:00 PM until whenever
Iron Horse Tap Room
You do NOT have to go to the Convention to join us for drinks thereafter. More info to follow, but I hope to see a lot of you there. Especially F&B and Laichitor…
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by J.P. on Sep 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
As long as I can get K_C to move his wedding date I’ll be there!
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Oh, wtf? Who gets married in October? (It’s funny b/c Pepper and I did, though not to each other.)
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Some guy whose jerk brother took August. They had to respect the wedding buffer period, I guess. Talk to the womens about this.
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respect the wedding buffer period
You had an entire period of your wedding dedicated to buffers? That’s awesome.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
ah, yeah, I won’t be spending my anniversary with y’all, sorry.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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Hopefully someone steps up in your place when the tequila comes callin’…
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It’s a bit of a commute.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Re: The Puck Stops Here
The salient point of that article is the recognition that D is undervalued. Lots of people already have commented on that, but I think it’s always important to keep in mind. Whenever you compare a player’s value, you are implicitly comparing offensive value based on the arsenal of stats we currently have. This also goes for “Quality” stats, and is one of my biggest problems with those stats. Tough defenders are very difficult to play against, and high quality in their own right, but they never get the credit they deserve in a statistical sense.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
"Free" talent alert
Canes sign Patrick O’Sullivan to a two-way 600k contract.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
That’ll be nice. He’ll get to live and play hockey near his dad again.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
by Rob Parker on Sep 17, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ouch.
I gotta say, 600k 2-way deal for a former 22-goal scorer. Damn. The Canes could easily get Flash-level value out of him next year, and if they don’t, they can just send him to the AHL.
Rutherford makes some mistakes, but he also has an uncanny ability to pick up value off the scrap heap.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Rutherford has definitely done a good job on the scrap heap, the problem is in thinking he’s got more than he has. Picks up Samsonov and the guy has a great half-season and GMJR is a genius. Then he signs the extension.
O’Sullivan is worth a flyer. I’m not sure why nobody will touch the kid. I don’t think he’s great, but he has a very nice shot, seems to be a pure goal scorer, and is still young. For 600K, even if it was one-way, you could do a hell of a lot worse.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Inconsistency and softness have been his main drawbacks.
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Inconsistency and softness can be said about some dude that signed for 2.6 one-way this off-season.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Truth be told I almost referred to Flash, as well as Lee Stempniak when replying
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by Rather Bengt on Sep 17, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
On (the appropriately-initialed) POS.
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He has his drawbacks, but he was also playing on an absolutely God-awful team last year. There are very few players from last year’s Oilers squad who looked even remotely good. In fact, he’s never played on a decent team.
I’m not saying I’d sell the farm to trade for him, I’m just saying that 600k for a guy with that much skill is a bargain.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Agreed, but being a standout (and not in a good way) on a particularly bad team can’t be ignored either. I mean, he was the worst forward on an awful team.
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So I’ve been on and off the grid this week; as I understand things, Eric Belanger isn’t around for camp, but his agent tried to kill Pat Burns and failed?
"#DCU is like senior prom. A bunch of people standing around waiting for a 17-year old to score."
by Bald Pollack on Sep 17, 2010 4:15 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Said rabid Coyote was then accused by Damien Cox of being a shill for Ted Leonsis.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Sep 17, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Another angle to Belanger
I know that “hockey is a business,” and everyone (without an NTC or NMC) knows that they can be traded at any time, but how must it feel to be one of the players rumored to have been traded before l’affaire Belanger, and to now have that reality being trumpeted by the Caps’ senior writer?
I’m not on Vogel or the Caps for writing it, I’m just wondering how it must feel to be one of those guys (particularly if the team didn’t discuss it with them) who know must be wondering, “was it me?”
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Eh, that “was it me” or potential to be traded is always there. This might be a little closer to home, but I wonder how much the players even followed it. I also think there’s an element of “well, they didn’t get rid of me just so they could have Belanger, so they still want me.” Maybe it puts the spurs to some of our underachievers as well.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Belanger
Vogel has posted another article on the Belanger negotiations from the Caps’ perspective.
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