Tuesday Caps Clips: This Is Stan
Your savory breakfast links:
- Coverage of Day 2 of Rookie Camp:
- Stan Galiev is impressing. [CI (note on Trevor Bruess as well)]
- Galiev and Dmitri Kugryshev on the upcoming season. [Caps365 (video)]
- Cody Eakin will try to make the Caps' decision on him as hard as possible. [CI]
- Jared DeMichiel will play his game and let the chips fall where they may. [Masisak]
- Recap of the day. [Peerless, RMNB]
- Photos. [Caps In Pictures (bonus: vets skate pics), The Blonde Girl's Guide]
- So if the Penguins are predicted to finish second in the Conference, that must mean... Corey's jinxing the Caps. [Masisak]
- Alex Ovechkin: den mother... [WaPo]
- ... and Eminem fan. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Plant seeds, water 'em, give 'em sunshine, and before long you've got a pretty impressive homegrown blueline. [Dump 'n Chase]
- One of those blueliners, Mike Green, goes under the Peerless microscope. [Peerless]
- Statistical projection says Mike Knuble is trending downward. I'll believe it when I see it. [Puck Prospectus, ESPN ($)]
- Of course, that line of thinking is what has some thinking that Knuble is the most underrated player in the League. [Inside Hockey]
- Speaking of Knuble, "Hockey Diaries: The Almost Season" is now available online, with plenty of web-only extras. Check it out... [mediachameleon]
- ... and check out a couple of takes on Friday's premiere. [OFB, Caps Snaps]
- Alexander Semin is D.C. [Make Lemons]
- AO and Donovan McNabb co-star in a new Capital One ad. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Previewing the Caps... [TFP]
- ... and the Southeast Division. [FtR]
- A Caps-centric look at the Bolts. [KOL]
- Varly has blogged again. [RMNB]
- Prospect Patrick Wey meets President Obama (and President wannabe Kerry). [BCEagles (pics)]
- Finally, happy 60th birthday to Orest Kindrachuk, a Cap for all of four games.
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Plant seeds, water 'em, give 'em sunshine, and before long you've got a pretty impressive homegrown blueline
True, but the “impressive” part of that, at least in terms of the Caps having perhaps a top-five foursome, might be 2-3 years down the road. It is not at that level now. Is it enough to get them to a Cup this year? Guess we’re going to find out.
It is conceivable that all of the Caps starting defensemen in a few years will have been drafted by the club (if guys like Dmitri Orlov and Patrick Wey make the jump). That’s nice as a marketing tool, I suppose, but will that be the best defense the Caps can put together?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it enough to get them to a Cup this year? Guess we’re going to find out.
Not sure that’s going to be the case. But whether it is or isn’t, developing your own talent is more than a marketing tool – it’s cost efficient and good asset management because you don’t have to overpay (in dollars, prospects or picks) in the marketplace.
I’m with you 100% on the timeline and the questions, but I wouldn’t be so quick to brush aside the significance of a homegrown top-four.
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I don’t. Truth be told, I agree it is the best way – both in a hockey and an economic sense – to develop and sustain a competitive team. But I wonder if there isn’t something of a timeline mismatch in the way the forwards and defensemen are developing. If the top-four need 2-3 years of further incubation to achieve “impressive” status, we could be 7-8 years into Ovechkin’s tenure (5-6 in Backstrom’s) here before he and the defense will have finally matched their potential. Are the team, players, fans, front office that patient?
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Doesn’t it generally take longer for defensemen to “mature” anyway? Hell, Green and Schultz aren’t even 25 yet, and Alzner and Carlson are 21 and 20 respectively. And that’s 4/6 of this year’s defense. They have a combined 833 games of NHL experience.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
But I wonder if there isn’t something of a timeline mismatch in the way the forwards and defensemen are developing.
You could even add the goalies (behind the D) to that concern.
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Steve Yzerman played 14 years before he won his first Cup.
Fantasy Teams: Baby Got Backstrom (Ladies of Twitter) and All's Fehr in the Crease (Six Beers Too Many)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Ray Bourque won his first in his 22nd season. Point being?
Peerless is referring to this team as presently constituted and their closing window. As guys move from ELCs to RFA to UFA, they’re going to price themselves out of this market, in all likelihood. Alex Semin? See ya. Brooks Laich? We’ll see. Knuble? There aren’t endless miles in those tires. Does Carlson’s next deal impact Green’s or vice versa? There are a lot of moving parts here, and to have some peak before others obviously is an unfortunate and uncontrollable part of that.
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Which is why I’d argue that while drafting can — and should be — the cornerstone personnel development tool, it cannot be pursued to the exclusion of other tools. The Caps have done some of that (employment of other tools), but sometimes I wonder if they don’t forego it in pursuit of a self-consciously draft-centric point of view.
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I don’t think so exactly. I think the philosophy is to build the foundation from within and augment it with pieces from outside, being mindful of minimizing the risks (i.e., not over-committing). If you look at the players they’ve acquired over the past few years, be it Theodore or Knuble or Chimera or King or any of the rentals, they’re all two-year guys. Who’s the last guy the Caps brought in (trade or UFA) with three years left? Nylander?
It’s a very conservative approach, no doubt, but it’s in part necessitated by that strong internal development.
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So. Souray has been told not to report to Oilers camp. What’s next, and does DC somehow figure into this?
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No no no no no no no no no no no no no no. And no.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m hearing that Souray does not, in fact, have any future in DC.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Adrian Fenty has more of a future in DC
BA-ZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I rec this funny joke with a heavy heart. I’m dreading the results of today’s election.
"Hockey is my life, wine is my passion." -- Igor Larionov
by Scott in Shaw on Sep 14, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
hit me back
just to chat
truly yours,
your biggest fan,
this is stan.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 14, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
’Bout time someone recognized (given Galiev and an Em reference, I thought it worked…).
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Damn you Natty. Never going to get that beat out my skull today.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Sep 14, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
blame JP! (or blame ovechkin?)
i was really hoping the dude in the handheld concert video would run into AO in the concourse. “OMG, it’s alexander ovechkin you guys!” yeah on second thought, i doubt he’d have recognized ovechkin.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 14, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I choose to blame you…or Kim.
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by Carl Putnam on Sep 14, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve been known to do a mean duet of this with my wife at karaoke.
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by Scott in Shaw on Sep 14, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Tense times in the Devils’ dressing room.
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I’d welcome Langenbrunner if he’d like to come play in DC.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Not that I have any sympathy for the Devils as a team, but if management had done things the right way at the beginning, the players wouldn’t be feeling the stress this late because it would have all been taken care of already.
"It's always good to have vikings."
by gfcaps fan on Sep 14, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Rec’d for subtle Stones reference.
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Really? Must be incredibly subtle, because I’m not a Stones fan. (Probably should just say thanks and leave it at that)
"It's always good to have vikings."
Sympathy for the Devil is a classic Stones tune.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Sep 14, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I’d probably recognize it if I heard it and not know the title.
"It's always good to have vikings."
accidental stones references are even better!
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 14, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The contract disputes/rejections/arbitration, etc., definitely changed the timeline for the Devils in terms of dealing with the cap issue.
At this point, this is similar to when the Caps traded for Friesen during camp in 2005 when the Devils needed to get under the cap. I always thought the story about Friesen being at a house closing sometime that day/week was a bit odd since he seemed like a possible candidate and the players should have known someone had to go; maybe the “newness” of the cap made it less obvious to the players that time around.
Zubrus is at the top of my list of most-likely-to-be-traded guys for the Devils.
At the bottom are Rolston (35+ contract, $5M cap hit for 2 more years, so who’s going to want him?) and Zajac (too valuable for NJD to part with).
Langenbrunner, Clarkson, and White fall somewhere in the middle.
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Rolston also has a no trade clause, as does Langenbrunner.
I also like how Kovalchuk’s cap hit is 6,666,666 a year. Very appropriate.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…NTC’s don’t seem to mean as much as they used to. The player really has a difficult position: either exercise the NTC and be the bad guy, or be the good guy and forgo (sp?) your bargained-for rights. Given the Gagne example from earlier this summer, and also the tenor of Langenbrunner’s comments, it seems like the game is trending towards a NTC not conferring a whole lot of anything to the players that hold them.
It would be better if the CBA allowed for financial considerations in return for waiving a NTC (or NMC).
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I mean, they can dump him in Albany if they want to, but i’m sure they don’t want to pay him all that money to sit in Albany.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Rolston is on an 35+ contract which has to be taken into consideration when discussing the options with this player.
Oy. For a front office with such a great reputation (and deservedly so), they seem to have made quite a few not very smart moves lately. I know what they’re trying to do (win now! now! now!), but it doesn’t seem like they’re doing that very constructively.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They really need a new transfer agreement so they can have an avenue to dump a lot of these guys in Europe if they so wish (and the player still thinks he can play at a high level)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know why that would be necessary. The AHL is as good as most of the European leagues, so if they can still play at a high level the AHL isn’t the worst place to be. The reason players leave the AHL is about money, but if a guy is on an NHL contract (one way) and sent to the AHL the money isn’t an issue. I could see a lifestyle issue for the European players, but I suspect most North American guys are fine playing in the NHL as compared to a European league.
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I would think that generally, you would want to keep your AHL team as a place to put your kids that are too old for Juniors, and that need to develop for the NHL.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s true, and I think the first concern most NHL teams is making sure they have a place for their kids. But look around the AHL and how many teams are chock full of prospects? None, really. They all have a bunch of spots for veteran players to round out the roster. It may be a tough fit adding a late NHL veteran, but you’d have to imagine most AHL teams would rather have an NHL cast off who is only there because of salary rather than an AHL veteran who is only there because he can’t play in the NHL.
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You’ve also got the issue in the AHL of how many vets you can dress. There’s not an unlimited number of positions for them. Of course, I’m sure AHL teams would be happy to let a low-level guy go in exchange for an overpriced NHL’er who’s better than the guy he replaces, but that’s going to sting for the guy who ends up displaced because of it.
"It's always good to have vikings."
It’s definitely a concern (the veteran limit) but like you said I think most AHL clubs would be cool with pushing out a career AHL vet. It may stink for him, but he’ll still get paid and probably land at another AHL club.
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Zubrus has an unofficial no trade clause — a 3.4 Million salary for the next three years
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Sep 14, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Who is going to take Zubrus’ contract? Except for being 35+ it’s at least as bad as Rolston’s. Salvador is also likely to be moved. I’d put White in the same camp as Zajac.
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Forgot about Salvador. But you’re right.
Re. Zubie, see above. He’d have to go to a team that is willing to exchange cash obligations for picks + a decent roleplaying center. That suggests to me a non-contending (or rebuilding) team that doesn’t have cash flow problems and that finds itself close to the cap floor or with sufficient cap room.
Like, say, the Isle. Or maybe the Avs (not sure they would want to part with the cash, though). Maybe the Stars?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
The thing is, everyone knows NJD has no leverage. So even if it’s a good fit NJD won’t get value back. I don’t think Lou wants to put a good dowry on Zubrus, though a team like the Isles would jump all over that (ignoring the fact that they are extremely unlikely trade partners).
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I disagree about the Rolston vs Zubrus contract comment. With 3 years left on Zubrus’ contract at 3.4M cap hit and Rolston’s cap hit over 5M for 2 years, I think Zubrus’ contract is the more appealing combination of contract and player based on recent performance and age and role, even before you add in the 35+ contract status for Rolston.
I agree Salvador is likely to be moved and Zajac is very unlikely to be moved.
I guess it depends on the team’s cap position. Adding an extra year would be a deal breaker for some teams. Maybe the NYI or another team on the tail end of a rebuild. Some teams might be able to afford the 5 for Rolston for only two season but the extra year would impact their ability to re-sign guys like Tavares. I don’t know that I think Zubrus’ performance is any more impressive than Rolston’s. Rolston has had some injuries and bad years, but he has more talent than Zubrus. Zubrus has never been much more than a marginal C and he’s been basically invisible on NJD. I don’t think either are all that productive at this point so it’ll be hard to move either. I just don’t see much difference in the contracts other than term. The overall money is close, the fact that the players are in decline is similar, the +35 is the only real difference but there is no sign that Rolston is about to retire.
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Blogs by Former Players...
I hadn’t seen this site before, former players blogging…saw a link via Kevin Miller’s twitter…
Anyway, I have no comment yet and quality/content, but I thought some others might be interested, so here’s the link:
Can we trade Kevin Miller’s blog for one written by Dino Ciccarelli?
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I’d like to trade Kevin Miller’s blog for a blog written by Kevin Millar.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Loooking over the pix of vets’ practice, Brooks is not wearing a visor. Bad Brooks.
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Steckel did that before in camp as well and then ended up wearing one during the season. There’s still time to change!
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Besides, no one ever takes an errant puck in the eye at practice anyw…oh, wait.
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Oh yeah, he totally should wear one. I guess he’s just too manly or whatever.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Speaking of which, Potivisor!
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This video is great. His accent is coming through. He also looks to have trimmed down a little, maybe?
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Didn’t he say after it happened that he wouldn’t? He admitted it was stupid to not but that he wouldn’t change…it was a facepalm moment for me, for sure. So smart and lovely and yet so ridiculously stupid sometimes.
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The key must be family. Poti promised his family to wear his visor. Brooksie needs a family to scare him straight!
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
immediately afterward he said he wouldn’t. When Tarik did that big follow-up article several weeks later, Poti said he’d be wearing a visor because he didn’t want to put his wife through that again.
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Ovie...den mother
That gave me a disturbing image of Ovie as the wolf suckling Romulus and Remus.
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Funny. But Ovi’s litter of Russian pups seems to be growing with every draft.
Sweet pic of Galiev—he always seems to have a smile on his face. It’s good that he enjoys his job.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems like Nicky is also assembling a litter, filled with Swedish pups. Mirtle said on twitter that Nicky is buying Theo’s house. I saw Nicky quoted somewhere as saying he’d host the Swedish guys once he had more room.
by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 14, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
One can never have too many Viking pups.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Never say never!
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Well, we can take heart in the fact that we have all the typical signs that precede a Caps trade or signing (i.e., no signs at all).
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
And Belanger hasn’t signed with another team.
by vtcapsfan99 on Sep 14, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
And, as Mirtle pointed out the other day, neither Belanger nor his agent has said anything to the contrary.
by red army line on Sep 14, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Belanger IS dead.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 14, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Allen Muir comment on SI/CNN
“The Devils are allowed to appeal the decision at today’s Board of Governor’s meeting, but they’ll be hard-pressed to find much support. It’s tough to imagine many other clubs wanting to draw attention to themselves — certainly not teams like the Capitals, Flyers, Bruins, Red Wings and Canucks who got away, barely, with similarly structured deals. So the Devils will just have to lick their wounds and limp away.”
ugh
I said the phone in the limo is busted...what is you...ignorant?
He’s not referring to the Ovechkin deal. He’s referencing the unbalanced structure of the deal in which Ted pays for more trips for lazy, Mother’s-basement-dwelling bloggers up front, but reduces that number in later years.
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by Alz Well That Ends Well on Sep 14, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
And this is why Ted calls out any in the media who lump Ovi’s contract in with the front-loaded, cap circumventing deals. Yet no one seems to learn. Muir should know better. Or is he just being lazy by mentioning every team that has a long contract? Bleh!
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
From the Twitterz (Bravo, JP )
JapersRink: Re: Devils, “teams like the Capitals … got away, barely, with similarly structured deals.” http://bit.ly/c60k2R Wrong, Muir. Just wrong.
24 minutes ago via web
wyshynski: @JapersRink Easier (and lazier) for Muir to assume Caps’ long-term deals circumvent cap than to look it up. And others, of course.
21 minutes ago via web in reply to JapersRink
JapersRink Someone at SI please put this in front of Allan Muir’s face – http://bit.ly/cZgLmE
18 minutes ago via web
JapersRink: Oh, hey look – Muir edited “Capitals” out of that article. http://bit.ly/c60k2R Bravo.
7 minutes ago via web
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by bagace on Sep 14, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Glad Muir cares about accuracy and didn’t Coxify it with a Twitter battle of falsehoods and innuendos.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s tough to imagine many other clubs wanting to draw attention to themselves — certainly not teams like the Flyers, Bruins, Red Wings and Canucks who got away, barely, with similarly structured deals.
Apparently he removed the “Capitals” from the article.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
Good. That didn’t take too long.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
-Look for Cody Eakin, Marcus Johansson, Dmitry Kugryshev, Patrick Cullity, Joe Finley and Braden Holtby to see some time in preseason games.
What about MP?
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Finley’s in camp again? I guess they needed someone for Pisano to fight for the umpteenth time.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is she’s just singling out those who haven’t seen any preseason time before. Perreault’s practically a roster player, they know what he brings – I’m sure he’ll see plenty of preseason time.
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I’m beginning to wonder that too. Corey’s prediction column is listing him as still centering the Bear’s second line. Bruce mentioned his gaining “10 lbs of muscle” over the summer, which sounds like he’s pleased with his condition. Not sure why he’s being overlooked.
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Early reports saying Bobby Ryan signs at 5 years, $25.5 million (TSN). I’m kind of ambivalent—is he that good on his own?
31/26/57 in 64 games in 08-09
35/29/64 in 81 games last year. And he’s only 23.
Getzlaf/Perry/Ryan and Hiller is a great base to work around. Not only that, but they’ve got Sbisa in the system, and Cam Fowler fell to them at 12 in the draft.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, everywhere I read “can he do it without Perry and Getzlaf” who are really good players themselves. He played mostly with those two or with Koivu-Selanne. I like his play a lot but I like other guys who aren’t as good as they seem too.
Ryan’s Fenwick% list (Corsi minus blocked shots by the other team, or shots + missed shots for) shows he had at or above 50% (with over 100 events) with #s 1, 7 (well, it’s 49.8%), 8, 10, 11, 15, 19, 27, 31, 34, 35, 42, 60. Via NHL.com and Ducks.com:
1-Hiller, 7-?, 8-Selanne, 10-Perry, 11-Koivu, 15-Getzlaf, 19-?, 27-Niedermayer, 31-?, 34-?, 35-?, 42-Sexton, 60-Mikkelson (what?)
Via Behind the Net: His Corsi Rel led the Ducks, his Corsi Rel QoC and Corsi Rel QoT was 4th among Ducks forwards. Hmm, i can’t see anything bad about this in a vacuum, but yeah, not so fond of him getting Perry/Getzlaf money, more or less.
Capgeek has it up already. Wow, they work fast.
by red army line on Sep 14, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
He hits slightly less than what Kessel does, who is probably a good comparison since they’re similar players (and they’re the same age)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t care about what the hits stat says, Ryan plays with much more balls than Kessel. They both score, but I think the comparison ends there. Kessel has a ton of speed, a great shot, and not much else. Ryan seems to be the better all around player and didn’t disappear in the Olympics.
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I meant salary cap hit, not “hitting” hits. I should have made that clearer.
Kessel’s cap hit is 5.4, Ryan’s is 5.1
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course Ryan plays with more balls than Kessel.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Sep 14, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Zing!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Sep 14, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Most definitely was not a plant. That’s not how we roll.
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How could you make a comment about playing with balls and Kessel and not see the connection?
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Sep 14, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention Kessel’s reputation of having a negative role in the locker room.
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by CarltonBanks on Sep 14, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with him getting Perry money. I think he’ll be the better player over the course of their respective deals. Getzlaf is way underpaid, IMO.
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I guess I’m just high on Perry, though the more I look I can’t find anything to say Perry is better than Ryan right now. Only thing I got is Ryan got better zonestart and lost 4%. I guess I’ll have to pay closer attention to Anaheim.
by red army line on Sep 14, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Getzlaf is one a great deal for what he brings to that squad. He’s paid like a good C, but he’s at or near top-5. People forgot how good he was last season for the Ducks playing against the other team’s best offensive units and battling injuries.
As for Ryan, I have him edging into elite winger status because of his all-around game and these ought to be the best five years of his career. I think it’s an outstanding deal for Anaheim.
Let’s put it this way; would you rather have Bobby Ryan at 5.1 or Alex Semin at 6? I think the answer to that one is pretty easy.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
What that’s saying is that Ryan plays on both lines in the top-6 and does quite well with either one. Bobby Ryan is a badass.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty high on Ryan but it’s a fair question. Just over 5 mill is the same as Getzlaf/Perry so I’m not shocked. We’ll see if he continues to earn it, but it doesn’t sound egregious to me and it’s basically exactly what I expected and have heard through the whole holdout.
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I’d say he’s worth that deal; I’d take him before Corey Perry at the same money.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone read about media day at nhl.com?
Crosby and Ovechkin did a photo shoot for Vanity Fair on Tuesday.
Anyone have anything witty to respond to that? I’m stuck.
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"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wish I were wittier.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Sep 14, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
@damospin: Ovechkin, representing the Vanity half of the equation, preened and primped like the prima donna his overbearing parents moulded him in to. Crosby, in his part as Fair, insisted that despite his greater success and popularity, he not receive top billing on the press release, preferring instead to share the billing with his loathsome counterpart.
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by fat_daddyo on Sep 14, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nat's pic from the shoot:
“I don’t always eat nachos, but when I do, it’s Verizon Center nachos (and Coke – no diet).”
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by bagace on Sep 14, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Our Most Interesting Man.
Looking cool, Ovie.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
Ovi = cool. It’s in the very marrow of his bones.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
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Ovie is the definition of cool
And if he’s still into nachos and Coke, it hasn’t hurt, as this recent photo shows.
by Ovietracker on Sep 14, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
OT: Question
For those who attended and/or listened, was Sloan in attendance at the Hockey Chronicles event on Friday night? (I know Knuble was there since I’ve seen a picture with him at the event.)
Belanger signs with Phoenix
I can’t seem to avoid this guy.
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I absolutely don’t hate it.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Sep 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Terms?
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Bah, not disclosed. I hate those stupid policies, everyone is going to find out anyway.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
One year, $750K.
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Rather have that guy at $750K than Halpy at $600K.
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Those deals show you how the FA market has dried up because most teams have little cap space left and don’t want to spend it on 3rd & 4th line guys.
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Yeah… except the Caps have cap space and a need at C. I really don’t understand how GMGM let that happen. 750K is clearly not the result of a bidding war, so unless Belanger took less money to try to get better ice time it doesn’t make much sense. Even if he thinks he’s getting better ice in PHX, he’ll still be skating with lesser quality players so I just don’t see how this is ideal for him.
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I think the Caps have gone back to where they were in the early offseason. They’ve got several prospects they are going to give a shot to. I was fine with that approach then and I’m fine with it now. If it doesn’t work out perfectly they have cap space to make a deal.
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I’m a lot less cool with this if you can get Belanger at 750k. He’s better than Boyd Gordon and cheaper.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not better on the PK which is a large concern for me at least. Also, he takes up another roster spot that could go to a younger prospect.
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The difference between the two at ES and on the PK more than makes up for it, in my opinion.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
On any generic team I’d agree. On this one I’m not so sure.
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Unless you think either guy is a singlehanded difference maker on the PK (and everyone knows how I feel about that) then I don’t even see how it is a major point of comparison. Both can go out there and take a PK shift. Gordon is marginally better at FO and probably PK all around, but he’s got the back issues and isn’t so good that he keeps our PK above 80% on his own.
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I’m all for giving the young guys a chance to succeed, but I don’t like the look of Flash/MP/Mackan taking 2 C spots and then Gordon/Steckel fighting for the 4th with a shot at the 3rd.
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by Rob Parker on Sep 14, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m not too concerned about it. Just like I wasn’t concerned about the 8-9 man D situation early last year. It will sort itself out.
My guess is that somewhere around the holidays, if not before then, they’ll make a deal for a center. I’m fine with MP or Mackan being a 3rd line center.
As for Flash, I’m hoping his likely failure at center will finally be the nail in his DC coffin. I just hope he’s placed in the coffin and shipped out before April.
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Fair enough. I’m just worried that Flash at 2C makes him impossible to trade. If he succeeds there is no way the team moves him… this is finally his breakout year! (Which may be true.) If he fails who is going to want him? Maybe a team sees him as a fit on the second line wing, but how much return would they part with? I doubt enough to make it worth it for GMGM to move Flash.
I don’t think our C situation was going to be fully solved by Belanger, but at least the 3C spot would be. As is we have questions at the 2 and 3C. I’m fine with the kids dicking around the C spots for most of the year, but I don’t like them going to the playoffs in that position. If we can actually trade for a 2C then that changes things, I’m just not very confident that it will happen. The wet dream is that Brad Richards gets sent here (ignoring the insane cost it would take), but that’s not likely and I don’t want to get my hopes up. There may be some other guys that might become available, but are any of those guys the type that is really going to solve the 2C for a Cup contender? Guys like that rarely move in-season.
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Your concerns about Flash are valid. I’m worried about how that plays out as well.
I’m fine with one of the young guys at 3C come April if they’ve shown during the year they can compete.
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I can live with a kid at 3C if we have a legitimate 2C that can eat minutes. If we can “hide” the third line and give them ~12 minutes a game then I think a kid might be ok. But if we are rolling Flash and a kid for 2/3 then I think we’re in for another early exit.
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At 750K? The difference being that Belanger can play a checking role adequately, which BMo cannot. I’m not sure I want BMo on the roster at all, frankly.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with khtad on this one. And I’m one who was excited about his addition to the roster last offseason. BMo appears to be done.
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Yep. I thought he started the year well and looked like a steal but since about December he just lost it. I didn’t see the same explosive skating and he really wasn’t creating much with the puck. His finishing skill was abhorrent and he was pretty easily passed by Belanger on the depth chart. I guess if he sits on the market as an FA and none of our C options pan out we could try to sign him for cheap later in the season, but I don’t think that’s a realistic option.
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Now this I have no quibble with.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
My guess is they could never get the deal done. Looking into it.
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by James Mirtle on Sep 14, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
By “deal” do you mean the trade that was rumored or an actual deal with Belanger. I assume the former.
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Wondering if the leaking of said deal (and the Flash part of the rumor) pissed off GMGM.
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I see OFB thinking similar thoughts.
@JapersRink loose lips sink ships
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Tacopina cost his client over a million dollars, if this is indeed what happened.
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If it is, he’s going to be an ex-client real fast, or should be.
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I’d tape that invoice to the bottom of my birdcage.
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We might know more tomorrow
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by Ovietracker on Sep 14, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want to burn anyone on this by going into too much detail, but it’s safe to say the Belanger side felt a contract was nearly in the bag with Washington. The WaPo confirmed my report for that reason.
That obviously changed at some point, and I don’t yet know why — but the leak wouldn’t have helped. (And the Caps obviously won’t say anything on it given it involved a potential trade w/ other players.)
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by James Mirtle on Sep 14, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
If it torpedoed a potential trade that involved getting a guy who’s going to get a look at 2C this season, despite having the worst Corsi Rel out of any forward playing 30 or more games, with strong teammates and weak comp, I’m going to kick a puppy.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
getting rid of*
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll never know who was or wasn’t involved. For all we know it was Fehr going out of town. We like to speculate that it was Flash, but it’s pretty clear the organization thinks much more highly of Flash than the fans do. If it kept a top 4 D off the team I’d be pissed as well. All in all, I’m not very happy with the development.
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by James Mirtle on Sep 14, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Frak. Now I’m well and truly annoyed that this thing didn’t shake out.
Thanks for tracking it down and posting it here.
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I think we’d all prefer Belanger over either of those two. Heck, I’m on record as saying I’d have given Flash away.
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Now I wonder who was coming back for Flash or Steckel?
We’ll probably never know, but I’m sure if I did it would just annoy me further.
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Yeah, we probably would be annoyed. Basically anything back for either would be fine with me. God forbid it was an actual player (i.e. Bieksa) and now we’re stuck with Flash and no Belanger and no D.
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And no gritty 3C.
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Let’s also not lose sight of the fact that losing out on Belanger kills any depth we might have had at center. What happens if Gordon gets hurt again? Then we’re looking at a 2-3-4 C lineup of MP/Mackan, Flash, Steckel full time.
Whatever happened behind closed doors, the end result is bad for the Caps. It caps off a mediocre offseason by GMGM IMO.
honestly there just HAS to be a move during the season. there’s no way around it, unless mackan/MP just blow BB and GMGM away during the early part of the season.
which also sucks, because good players don’t come cheap amidst a bidding war at the deadline.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
as annoying as this is, nothing will ever top the nylander-for-byfuglien trade that fell through.
by Natty Bumppo on Sep 14, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hide the puppies.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Keep the puppies out of Adams Morgan.
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by Scott in Shaw on Sep 14, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks for that info, James, but clearly that teaches the agent (and maybe his client too) that until you have ink on the paper, you keep your mouth shut.
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Agent is a former hot-shot defense attorney who was accustomed to trying parts of his cases in the media. Now fancies himself a sports agent. Got burned by an all-too-eager quebecois hockey press.
Sucker.
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Thanks for the follow-up friendo.
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by Bald Pollack on Sep 14, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks James. I wouldn’t expect or want you to burn your source. I’d just love to know the whole story someday.
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by James Mirtle on Sep 14, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d be fine with that deal and I hope at some point the Caps do publicly explain something. I just won’t hold my breath for it.
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I know real estate contracts absolutely have to be in writing, but how does the CBA mesh with contract law regarding verbal contracts? (Disclaimer — I took business law oh, many, many moons ago. I did have to pass it to get my CPA, though.) This could get delicious. Or not.
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I don’t think verbal agreements mean anything. You have to have a SPC signed before the league cares. If verbal contracts mattered you would have heard about much more bitter battles regarding Nylander and several other players that have done similar things.
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Good point. But my wondering is regarding the amount. Say you believe you have a valid contract for x dollars and you stop looking for work. And there have been stories about kids out of college who have had job offers rescinded because of the recession. You might think you have a valid claim. Might not be true, but we all know you don’t have to be right in order to sue someone.
Never mind that if the story is indeed true, Belanger and his agent were idiots to stop looking for another deal once a week or two had gone by.
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The difference is that the NHL deals are going to be governed by a CBA. A recent grad that has a job offer rescinded is going to be governed by common law/state statutory contract rules. Any challenge regarding an NHL contract is going to be governed by the CBA, and without looking I’d bet that there is a clause in the CBA that says no player has any claim against any team for any contract related reason until there is a signed SPC. So yeah, Belanger could be pissed about it, but he’s got no cause of action. Think about the flip side, Huet says he wants 5 mill for 3 years, GMGM says “Ok, here’s an SPC for 5×3.” Huet takes it to CHI and gets a better deal offered from CHI. Can GMGM complain that he had a deal with Huet? Not to the NHL he can’t.
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That’s kind of where I was thinking, but wanted a legal eagle to opine.
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Did you say something about bird law?
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Sep 14, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Don’t even get me started. Bird law’s not governed by reason.
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Can I step in with a pet peeve here?
“Verbal” contracts.
Nearly all contracts are verbal in that they consist of words. What people most often mean here is “oral” contract, i.e. one not committed to paper but rather spoken.
As for the validity of oral contracts, they can most certainly be valid, but in the NHL, nothing’s valid until it’s registered with the League. In essence, there may have been, at most, an agreement to agree or an offer that was never accepted, but those ain’t much.
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Person most disappointed by this move may be Kyle Wellwood. Probably thought he had a decent shot at making the Yotes roster. He might still, but that hill just got tougher to climb.
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Tomorrow’s Post story on the whole Belanger-to-Phoenix deal. And, apparently, his agent hasn’t learned the fine art of keeping his mouth shut:
Belanger’s agent, Joe Tacopina, said the Capitals did have a deal to bring back Belanger and even helped him sign a lease for a house in Washington and enroll his two daughters in area schools.
“It’s just disingenuous,” Tacopina said. “Despite a two-way commitment and requesting Eric to commit to them and take himself out of the [free agent] mix, when they wound up not being able to make the trade several weeks later, they decided they couldn’t sign him.”
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Oy. Tom Poti battled infections this summer and is still on antibiotics for his eye. But everything’s just fine!
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And F-16 came into camp at 220. Zowie.
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If F16 added 8 pounds of muscle, that could be a significant positive development, given his game style.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, depending on where he put it. I think he needed more strength in his core but I could see him getting carried away having two good arms for the off-season and putting a lot in his shoulders. It won’t hurt, you definitely need strong shoulders to battle, but your core is by far the most important (obviously). Without a strong core you can’t let your legs and arms work independently and you end up tripoding yourself too often.
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Oh, for sure. I hope basically all of it was between his knees and his solar plexus.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
From near the end of July.
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Hard to tell from that picture, but it looks like he’s got a very solid core. Encouraging.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a heck of a vertical leap, BTW.
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Fehr looked very strong in both the Knuble-led drills and the scrimmage on Monday. Both he and MP were a lot more determined/focussed than one might expect from a pre-camp skate. Perhaps they want to prove a few things in the next 3 weeks?
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A 2-month course of antibiotics indicates an infection that is nothing to sneeze at — that’s usually reserved for potentially chonic/long-term conditons (Lyme, TB, etc.) or immunocompromised patients. The public health worker in me makes me a little antsy about that kind of treatment.
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The last mosquito that bit me had to check into the Betty Ford Clinic.
Poti’s got some immune system issues (severe and wide-ranging allergies), so it wouldn’t surprise me.
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by Knee high to a duck on Sep 14, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That would make it TWO top-4 D with long form immune-system issues this summer.
:: gulp ::
So, Greenie…wanna take ANOTHER shift?
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Money quote on Dylan McIlrath:
Good at battling, he will keep forwards out of the crease and also is a feared fighter. However his skating leaves a lot to be desired, as he can get beaten by WHL-level forwards to the outside, he has relatively no puck skills, a good, hard shot but he’s not going to be on anyone’s powerplay. Makes bad decisions at times in the offensive zone and can get caught flat-footed in the defensive zone. His hockey sense is decent, but the skating will really hurt him at the next level.
I’m just glad that Sather isn’t GM for the Caps.
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