Wednesday Caps Clips
Your savory breakfast links:
- On Winter Classic tickets. [Ted's Take]
- "Washington has to be considered the most likely destination for Niemi." At least, so say the numbers. [ESPN Insider ($)]
- Another two cents on that same topic. [Kings of Leonsis]
- Would Willie Mitchell be an upgrade to the Caps' D-corps? [RMNB]
- ♫ Reunited and it feels so good ♪... Olie Kolzig will be at Caps Convention. [Capitals]
- A look ahead to 2010-11's milestones. [Peerless]
- "Any type! Brunettes, blondes, redheads, I love everybody." Guess who. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Mike Knuble will be skating in a University of Michigan alumni game on Friday... presumably in the 35-and-over game, with college hockey icon Red Berenson. Ouch. [MGoBlue]
- When the Caps visit the Devils on March 18, the hosts will be decked out in their Christmas Tree finery. One would assume that the Caps would rock their Winter Classic retro look for the game. [Fire & Ice]
- Blueline prospect Patrick Wey made it through the last round of cuts (from 42 to 28 players) at the 2010 USA Hockey National Junior Evaluation Camp. [USA Hockey]
- A bit more on Wey. [KG's District, Masisak and Caps Today (from back at D-Camp)]
- Cody Eakin is also getting ready to go camping. [Hockey Canada]
- If you've ever wondered what Nicklas Backstrom would look like in a Leafs sweater from behind, this link's for you. [Allehanda via Google Translate, with a similar year-old shot at Nochnaya huligana]
- The Caps have renewed their ECHL affiliation with South Carolina. Stingray grads who've played for the big club so far include Michal Neuvirth and Andrew Gordon. [Capitals]
- Vogs brings you up-to-date on what you've missed while he's been on a well-deserved vacation. [Dump 'n Chase]
- A new-to-me Brooks Laich article is always timely. [The Badger]
- Mmm... Crapdogs. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- The Caps' media/PR/marketing shuffle continues and has left a couple of openings. If you're wondering whether you're qualified, you're not. [NHL, NHL, NBA?]
- Back to Caps alums at the Convention, looks like Ryan Walter won't have any conflicts that weekend. [Kurtenblog]
- Off-topic, for a moment - if you're a golfer, $99 worth of the game at Virginia Oaks for just $49 is a mighty fine deal. [SB Nation Team Pick]
- Finally, in the spirit of Becca's infamous Hockey Questionnaire o' Doom, look for a new mini-feature later this afternoon that'll help kill a little time between now and training camp.
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Brooksie – what’s not to love!!!!!
He's a better skater than Nick, but he's big in the back[side]...BB
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The Brooksie link incorrectly places laich on the top line with Ovechkin. Other than that, it seems like a lot of hometown puffing and didn’t tell us much new.
The question to me with Mitchell is, can he play top-pairing minutes? If he can, we’re probably looking at this D setup:
Green – Mitchell
Schultz – Carlson
Poti – Alzner
I could get used to that.
What RMNB doesn’t acknowledge in their post is that there is inherent risk in acquiring any free agent – you don’t know whether they will fit in or be able to learn your system, you don’t know where they’ll find chemistry, a lot of other things. Injury only adds to that, but there’s always risk. I think the gamble’s worth it, especially if GMGM can get him to sign a short-term contract.
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I kinda doubt you want him playing top pair minutes after his injury, and playing with Green could be a ‘waste’ of his skill set, sort of. He’s a prototypical shutdown defender, and Green isn’t found playing against Parise, Crosby, etc. I’d stick with Green/Schultz, because if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
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I agree that if the price is right and his health decent, I don’t see why they wouldn’t do it – he’s significantly better than at least one of the Caps’ top six defenders, so he’d upgrade the position even if he just took #6 minutes.
But why does Mitchell need to be a top-pairing guy?
As for chemistry, he’d have six months to develop some. I’m not worried.
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I was going back to the discussion yesterday about how some people just don’t like Green / Schultz in that thought. To me, it all depends on what comes out on the ice this season. Remember, the Green / Mo pairing completely fell apart from season to season last year – it’s hard to tell what will happen. Who can say that Green / Schultz will work this year like it did last year?
I’m not too worried about chemistry either – I’m just pointing out that there’s always risks with a FA no matter what position or injury status. I see no reason not to go for it.
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I hear you on Green/Schultz. I just am not sure that the answers to “Who should Green be paired with?” and “Should the Caps sign Willie Mitchell?” are necessarily related.
I didn’t have a chance to follow yesterday’s discussion fully, but I assume that someone threw out the possibility of Green/Alzner. That’s my favored duo, certainly long-term. I think I could live with:
Green-Alzner
Carlson-Schultz
Poti-Mitchell
That would keep Mitchell’s minutes manageable at ES (and in a good shutdown pairing), he’d kill a ton of penalties, and hopefully be good to go come April.
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Wouldn’t (or couldn’t) another alternative be:
Green-Schultz
Carlson-Poti
Mitchell-Alzner
That way the kids have a softer cushion to the pros with a paired vet to help them out?
It takes...something? Anything?!?
Sure. But why start worrying about that now?
I like Alzner with Green because I like the former’s mobility and defensive conscience (both of which I think he has or will have at a better level than Schultz).
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What, me worried?
For the long term, sure. Corey alluded to a comment about Carlson benefitting from being paired with Poti, and maybe Alzner could use the same with a fellow BC’er, so I kind of stuck with me.
It takes...something? Anything?!?
Well, it’s a drum I’ve been banging for years, to no avail, so thanks for picking up the beat.
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my favorite d-pair is
erskine – sloan
so long as it involves popcorn and not ice time.
is green-schultz the long terms solution at the top line, or is sarge just holding a spot for alzner? if the latter, why not let those two guys start the season and develop the chemistry? much like trying flash out at 2C, i dont think this team should have to worry about making the post season. they should be able to experiment a bit without hurting their chances.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
Certainly for long-term, I like that idea. I have to wonder, though – if this is Alzner’s first full year in the League, isn’t pairing him with Green throwing him into the fire? This is not to say that they won’t do that, only that it’s throwing him into the fire.
Fair enough on managing Mitchell’s minutes. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider the question of “where would he fit?”, though, when considering whether it would be a fair signing. For example, Tomas Kaberle would be a horrible idea despite being a UFA D-man with a big name, because he’s absolutely the type of D we don’t need.
Besides, it’s August :)
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Alzner is well-seasoned in the AHL. Frankly, I don’t know how far behind Jeff Schultz circa October 2009 Alzner is right now. Guess we’ll see in a couple of months.
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Yup. Guess we’ll find out in training camp. He certainly looked good in Game 7, but as we’ve all discovered, things change over the summer.
FTR, I’m not against it long-term at all – I think it’d be a very workable pairing. I’m just not sure yet whether Alzner’s ready to cover for GreenLife52.
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I think the fact that Mitchell is automatically in the Caps top 6 makes it a good idea.
by mechanicsville on Aug 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Is there a team in the league where a healthy Willie Mitchell isn’t in their top 6?
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Philly? Beyond that, probably no one. It’d be a tough call on Nashville’s, but I think he’d make it.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Top 6? He’s in PHI’s top 6 and he may very well be in their top 3. Any team that has O’Donnell and Meszaros can’t claim to push Mitchell out of the top 6.
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Note the question mark I placed. I’d play Meszaros over Mitchell…but thats why I’m not an NHL coach :p. Pronger/Timonen/Carle/Coburn/Meszaros/Mitchell, I suppose. For some reason I thought there was a decent sixth option for them. It’ll be O’Donnell or Matt Walker.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If you like Meszaros it’s only because his obscurity has protected his reputation.
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Perhaps. I didn’t see much of him in TB, you did.
And to further your point, Mitchell was still performing extremely capably before he got hurt. I see no reason why he won’t be able to carry a significant defensive burden for at least another year. This isn’t O’Donnell or Chelios we’re talking about.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Mitchell is a more solid defender. To me Mez is a the highlight hit guy, but Willie is the guy who does all the hard work that no one ever gets credit for.
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I suspect that which “pair” a Mitchell will reside upon (or any other Caps defenseman) will matter little this year. Green will get the most minutes (by virtue of his almost exclusive use on the power play among the defensemen), and the group will roughly split the even strength time among them. I suspect they’ll all get a share of PK minutes, too (although Green’s should be managed to offset all the time he gets on the power play). All of them have strengths and weaknesses that suggest no one of them deserves more ES minutes than any other one. The idea of a “top pair” might not apply to this team, in terms of minutes played.
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by ThePeerless on Aug 4, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is a very valid point. Since BB doesn’t do line matching and doesn’t believe in it, that’s probably a good thing for this team. I’m actually hoping that the addition of Carlson means that Green will spend less time on the PP this season (or at least not be out for the entire 2 minutes!)
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Since BB doesn’t do line matching and doesn’t believe in it, that’s probably a good thing for this team.
While he doesn’t match forwards much, I do think he manages his defensemen with match-ups and certainly zone starts in mind.
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He’s said that he expects everyone to play with everyone – but zone starts might be a better description of who he sends out when. Having that balance of D gives BB a lot more options.
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Well, if you take a look at how he managed guys like Green and Erskine – he hid the latter quite a bit, and even managed to keep Green from facing top competition and being on for many D-zone draws.
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So who in this lineup deals with the top guys?
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Last year it was Poti and Sarge.
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How much time did Poti and Sarge spend as a pair? I seem to recall not that much?
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No, not a ton (though it was Sarge’s second most-frequent ES pairing and Poti’s fifth). But throughout the various combos, they ended up with the highest 5-on-5 QualComp.
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I wonder if a lot of that heavy qualcomp for Poti-Schultz is ES time just following a PP, where the PP unit is still out.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Or a PK where the other team’s PP is still on the ice.
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That’s what I meant. PP for them.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Great points, Peerless. Green’s ES partner doesn’t necessarily have to get a lot more ES time than the other D.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Further to that point, the Caps’ top-five D in ES TOI/G last year were within 2 minutes of one another. As a point of reference, the Champs had a spread of well over six minutes.
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So is that a good thing or a bad thing for the Caps?
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I don’t think it’s necessarily good or bad, other than to say that while Mike Green does have huge minute totals, it’s a bit deceptive in that so many of his minutes are relatively easy (read: PP) minutes.
But if you’d shown me those numbers before the playoffs, I’d have questioned whether a team with such heavy reliance on its Top-4 D (CHI) could withstand the rigors of the playoffs. Obviously they did.
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whether a team with such heavy reliance on its Top-4 D (CHI) could withstand the rigors of the playoffs.
The TOI for the playoffs is obviously even more top heavy…I’m just surprised at how much…they essentially played with 5 D with the 6/7 guysonly getting ~8 minutes per game.
Something I don’t understand about the RMNB article -
if we subtract Goals Against when the player is off the ice (per 60 minutes) from Goals Against when the player is on the ice (per 60 minutes) we can get an approximation of their defensive contribution after adjusting for Even Strength playing time.
Using this method would put Mitchell (-1.12) behind only current Caps’ defensemen Jeff Schultz (14.68), John Erskine (7.93) and Tom Poti (6.78).
If the formula is GAON/60 – GAOFF/60, and the result is a negative number, doesn’t that mean that the team allows more goals when the player is off the ice, and indicate that the player is a net-positive defender? I have to assume that the players cited on the Caps should therefore have negative numbers, in the context of the discussion.
But if the numbers show that Erskine is a better defender than Mitchell, something is wrong.
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by fat_daddyo on Aug 4, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good nose, FD. Willie Mitchell is one of the best examples of how Qcomp stats lie. By either the Corsi-based measure or the on/off measure Mitchell doesn’t rate as very difficult competition. But you look at how he plays, how his team uses him, how the pundits and fans value him (which is not necessarily meaningful at all), and basically at how well he is regarded within the sport and you can’t really conclude that Mitchell is easy competition. Brian Campbell is rated as much, much more difficult competition than Willie Mitchell, but I know which guy I’d rather have AO on the ice against.
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If the formula is GAON/60 – GAOFF/60, and the result is a negative number, doesn’t that mean that the team allows more goals when the player is off the ice, and indicate that the player is a net-positive defender?
If the team allows two goals per 60 when you’re on the ice and three goals per 60 when you’re off it (net minus-one), it means you’re better than your teammates.
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How do you read “if we subtract Goals Against when the player is off the ice … from Goals Against when the player is on the ice” that way?
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As per F&B : “…Brian Campbell is rated as much, much more difficult competition than Willie Mitchell, but I know which guy I’d rather have AO on the ice against.”
And I know which guy I’d rather have Malkin on the ice against. If only for a little something that rhymes with “Hey Jack”
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 4, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
for those interested in the Theodore-to-Nashville talk
It looks as if that doesn’t have legs – yet:
Another veteran goaltender still on the market and who could provide a veteran presence is Jose Theodore, but Poile said he has not spoken to him.
"We have not talked to him at all, no," he said.
With restricted free agents Patric Hornqvist and Cody Franson still unsigned, the Predators want to see what the financial impact of getting those two players back in the fold will be before opening up the checkbook to a goaltender from the outside. Poile said he does have an amount he envisions paying a backup, but that is subject to change.
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But, but… I read it on the internet, it MUST have been true!
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I think its still a very strong possibility, because he’s the best fit, but there’s not really a way to do it before more important players get signed.
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I was just kidding around on the fact that based on your reporting, that had been flying around over the past few days, and now you’re showing the GM saying it isn’t true. Then again, as we all know, GM’s tend to blur the truth at times. And we all like to pick on internet reporting.
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It had been talked about all over Twitter (I know, I know), and several ‘decent’ sources said there had been talks. It makes sense, but I don’t think GMDP wants to show his hand. It still wouldn’t surprise me if someone in the organization, if not Poile, has made a call to gauge Theo’s interest. Anyway, wait and see. If we get through camp with a goalie who’s never suited up in the NHL at backup, I’ll be very shocked.
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I’ve been in DC and trying to unravel GMGM talk too long. I read “We have not talked to him at all, no” and immediately thought, well, he doesn’t say he hasn’t talked to his agent!
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by RedBirdie on Aug 4, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bingo, same here. I think he’s been contacted, we just can’t offer anything yet.
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“haven’t talked to him [the player]” =/= “haven’t talked to the player’s agent”, for what that’s worth.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I do. LeBrun is great and phenomenally well-sourced, and the Puck Prospectus guys offer some interesting numerical analyses.
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by J.P. on Aug 4, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree about LeBrun, and Tom Awad certainly has more credibility than ESPN as a whole. But just in reading that first blurb (no way I’m paying for anything from ESPN) I’m not buying the claim. Of course Niemi is going to have a higher GVT than Varlamov or Neuvirth. It’s not a rate stat and he played in almost as many games as the two of them combined in the regular season (39 for Niemi, 40 for Varlavirth) and way more games in the playoffs.
Throw in the differences between the Washington and Chicago defenses and any comparisons between Niemi and the Caps goalies based only on numbers has to be taken with a huge grain of salt.
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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 4, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I totally agree. I just think ESPN’s stuff – like anyone else’s – should be dismissed on a case-by-case basis, and not summarily.
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At the same time, reputation does matter. They’ve spent at least a decade ensuring they have zero credibility within the hockey community and now that they are starting to make baby steps you can’t expect people to forget that.
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Disagree. I think that using a blanket statement about the outlet is unfair when they employ some truly fantastic (and nearly unimpeachable) journos, like Lebrun.
OK, just Lebrun.
But Burnside has his moments, Buccigross has always been a good friend to the sport, and their on-air talent (Melrose, Barnaby, etc.) can be somewhat insightful as well.
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Fair enough. From a rational perspective everything should be judged on its merits and not the author, but people don’t work that way.
Bucci has definitely been a friend to the sport and I wish he’d push ESPN to bring NHL players into their commercials, but for some reason I haven’t been able to stomach him much since around 2005…
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Yeah, I’m not a fan, but he’s at least a guy you can count on to be positive and not make Kornheiser/Wilbon-esque cracks about the game.
But I think that ESPN’s online content is basically Lebrun, Burnside and some stat-y Insider stuff, no? There’s not much “garbage” there, IMO, and where the garbage really exists is in their editing (using the old logo, etc.) moreso than in content.
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I like Hradek, in a goofy way (disclaimer: he’s on NHL Live a lot). But they really could dump Burnside. Maybe I’m biased because I feel like anything he writes about the Caps is garbage, but I’d like to think it’s more than that.
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Agreed. For so long it was just not a priority for the management so they didn’t even have quality staff to work with. Now they have good staff, but it’s still not a huge priority for the management. Whatever quality they have behind the Insider wall is going to be lost on most hockey fans because ESPN doesn’t have the cache to charge for hockey coverage when there is so much great content for free.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Yep. It’s gotta be a delicate balance for them from a business perspective, given their past (and potentially future) partnership with the League.
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Given the partnership ni the works between Comcast and NBC Universal, I suspect ESPN will be hard-pressed to get a share of that pie.
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All the more reason for them not to promote someone else’s content, no?
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Unless you take your title as “worldwide leader in sports” seriously. The premier sports news agency in North America should probably cover the sport because that’s their job, but I understand the financials cloud the situation.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I think what F&B is suggesting is that they need to start making their hockey content free in order to build their reputation as a reliable and informed source before they can start charging and reasonably expect people to pay for it. It’s the law of supply and demand – right now, because of their reputation, there isn’t much demand for their hockey content except as a curiosity and a laugh. In order to create the demand, they’re going to have to showcase what they’ve got and rebuild their reputation.
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But where’s their interest in doing so? They carry NFL, MLB and NBA games, so when they cover those sports, part of the coverage is really just advertising and promoting their product. Cover the NHL and you have the respect of a few more puckheads while pumping the tires of someone else’s product.
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The only way I could see if if they want to bid for it with the league in the coming year. Otherwise.
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Even then, their best play would be to have interest and ratings in the League as low as possible, no?
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How so? I don’t follow.
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The worse the League’s ratings are, the cheaper their broadcast rights will be.
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So nobody covers it unless they cover it? NBC really has an upper hand here on this one, since they at least look like they know what they’re talking about.
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I’m pretty sure ESPN’s execs know what they’re talking about when it comes to broadcast rights.
And no, not so no one will cover it if they don’t, but so bidding starts at X rather than X+Y.
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They only carry MNF, so their NFL coverage is way out of proportion to what they actually need to advertise. I think they are mostly offering what people are most interested in, with a side of offering of promoting their own coverage. Sadly, NHL just isn’t that popular.
Yet if I recall correctly, NHL ticket sales outpace NBA ticket sales.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no problem with them covering things that they have an economic interest in.
Notice how they might show highlights of a meaningless White Sox-A’s game on a Friday because one or both of the teams is playing on Sunday night baseball.
That’s good business.
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This may be because most people find hockey difficult to follow on television. The difference between hockey live vs. on TV is much greater than in any other sport.
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This is very true, but after I attended my first two or three live games, I found that I was much more adept at following the game closely on TV.
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Sure, but the casual fan may not know that or have the experience.
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Unrelated: basketball sucks.
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Right, I don’t disagree with that – it’s always going to be mostly demand-driven… which is another reason they’re not interested in the NHL.
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And yet we all still watch ESPN because it is still the go-to for news. Sometimes I hate it with the fury of 1,000 suns too for the way they hype up controversial stories as opposed to giving us nuts and bolts analysis, but a lot of it is related to the fact that there’s simply a lot more air time to fill these days.
Honestly, with Twitter, I’ve been watching less and less Sports Center these days. I don’t get breaking news there. ESPN is basically a highlight show for me.
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Good point about twitter really being the source for breaking news now. I usually watch NFL network first because it’s so much more tolerable than ESPN. Then I go to Sports Center once I’ve finish with the NFL network news show. I’m not usually missing any hockey news if I happen to skip Sports Center. Although lately it has been fun every morning to hear how yet again ARod hasn’t hit his 600th homer so I guess Sports Center is worth something.
I actually think in some ways their hockey coverage is better than their coverage of other sports, precisely because it’s all wonks like Lebrun and Burnside and there’s relatively little of the Bodenheimer hype and controversy machine stuff.
Benign neglect after hiring good folks like Lebrun may be a good thing
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t see what is behind the ESPN wall of commerce, but I really — and I mean really — don’t like the idea of Niemi in a Caps uniform.
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I can’t see what is behind the ESPN wall of commerce
4,002 articles on an indecisive QB.
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That few? I hate this time of year; round the clock training camp coverage. Whoopee.
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yeah, that few. The indecisive QB is fighting for attention right now with Day Six of the Fat DT Can’t Pass His Fitness test Saga.
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For those who can’t get “inside”, here are the five teams (in order of likelihood) where Awad sees Niemi landing:
1.Washington
2.Edmonton
3.Montreal
4.San Jose
5.Islanders
Seems like the Islanders should be higher. They’ll claim they don’t need a goalie, but we all know DiPietro isn’t going to play. And a nice fat contract will solve their cap floor problem.
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Don’t the Isles already have, like, 8 goaltenders?
by mechanicsville on Aug 4, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Is DiPietro going to retire already? I’m surprised he’s still around, even though he is relatively young.
If he retires, then he doesn’t get the $$ he’s getting until that big contract expires…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t really see how it makes sense for the Caps to get Niemi. They already have enough young goalies in the fold, and I don’t see Niemi being a better option in net for the Caps than either Varlamov or Neuvirth. I really don’t like the idea of Niemi cause I’m not positive he’s that much of an upgrade for the price.
I find it a tad interesting that Flash still is not listed on the Caps roster on their website, even though DJ King has been added. Is this just an oversight?
maybe flash hasnt officially signed his new deal? interesting that brian fahey is listed on the caps roster despite having a two way deal and clearly headed for hershey.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
I think it’s probably because the webmaster was on vacation, and no one has yet pointed out the omission. Guess that will change now.
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New Drinking Game
Everytime some reporter has Niemi coming to Washington, we all knock back a shot of Jack Daniels. I figure we’re all drunk by about 5:00. Seriously, do all these guys know something we don’t or is it just follow the pack journalism?
No one can believe that a team with Stanley Cup aspirations can go into a season with two goalies who, combined, have a total of 73 games of experience (regular season and playoffs).
If you've read this far...seek help.
3 game veteran, more NHL playoff experience than Holtby and he’s available for about 3x the cost of Varlamov or Neuvirth. Niemi is a massive upgrade in every category from number of Stanley Cups, cost and intangibles over all of the Capitals goalies.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
Niemi only had 3 games of NHL experience.
Stop interjecting facts into the storyline. We’ve got insider subscriptions to sell.
Here’s a number for you… four.
That is how many times Semyon Varlamov has allowed more than three goals in 19 playoff games.
That is how many times Niemi allowed more than three goals in one playoff series last season.
The finals (three times in his last four games).
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by ThePeerless on Aug 4, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I figure we’re all drunk by about5:00lunch
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Peerless, I just read your milestones post. It’s interesting that BB has only five more games as head coach (225) than Mike Green has career points (220). So Mike’s gone a little more than a point-per-game under BB’s tenure.
And IIRC Mike Green scored the very first goal of the Bruce Boudreau Era.
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If you’re a pro sports coach that’s the advice, but that little nugget always trips me out.
It takes...something? Anything?!?
I have no way of knowing but I wonder how the tenure of NHL coaches stacks up against their counterparts in baseball, basketball and football. Hockey just seems to chew up and spit out NHL coaches on a daily basis.
This site has some numbers.
Average tenure across all 4: 3.3 seasons
Average tenure for NHL: 2.3 seasons
NBA: 3.2
NFL: 3.6
MLB: 4
and 77% of all NHL coaches won’t even hit at 2.3 season mark. A few longer tenured coaches are skewing the average, it appears.
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Lindy Ruff and Barry Trotz are seemingly untouchable. Trotz has been at the helm for 11 years, Ruff longer.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
And, oddly enough, their GM’s are just as entrenched.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
And one of those situations I understand, the other I don’t.
I understand the two offices having a great relationship, and even appreciate it, but when it comes between good business I’d get pissed.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Which one don’t you understand?
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
I’d amend that statement, actually – I have some problems with both situations, Buffalo moreso than Nashville.
I really don’t know how Ruff has gone as long as he has without some major scrutiny. He and Regier have been given more than enough chances to turn that squad into a champion, and when Ruff had the pieces, he failed. I guess he’s just riding the 1999 wave. I see Buffalo as annual underperformers, whereas at least the Predators exceed expectations.
As for Trotz and Poile, I’m running out of patience with Barry, but understand why he’s still around. I don’t think that management could find any truly better option, and he’s consistently made lemonade with no lemons, or whatever. Getting rid of him now would just tear down everything we’ve established thus far. Poile has assembled some pretty amazing rosters considering the internal constraints. Three 100 point teams with a budget thats typically >10m under the cap is nothing to sneeze at.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Ruff is a great coach and if anyone should go there it’s Regier. But Regier has generally operated on a very stingy budget and the Sabres have managed to get to a Cup, and then get to two ECFs when they had Briere and Drury there. The one time they gave Ruff some high end talent, he got them pretty damn close. Then the team melted down and he hasn’t had much to work with since. Sure, they pay Vanek like he’s elite, and some days he is, but after that the offense drops off pretty steeply.
Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman
Yeah I should’ve clarified – I’d dump GMDR way before Ruff.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 4, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, some of those Sabres teams in the late 90’s had no business being in the playoffs, let alone deep in the postseason, save for the play of Dominik Hasek. You can indict GMDR for that, but those teams really were Dominik and Diddly-Squat.
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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 4, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
if you scroll to the bottom of the link, they have a list of “Least Stable Coaching Jobs by Franchise.” 13 franchises, 8 of them are NHL teams. The longest on that list? a mere 1.7 years. The Devils, by the way, lead all major pro teams. Over their 35 years, coaches last an average of 1.2 seasons.
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They’re like drummers for Spinal Tap.
by Becca H on Aug 4, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You mean Devils coaches have spontaneously combusted and died in gardening accidents??? Oooooh….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Choked on someone else’s vomit.
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you can’t exactly dust for….well…you get the meme…
by bilspacecadet on Aug 4, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats insane. Gotta figure coaches make $1M on average? Probably sign a 2-3 year deal. That means that at any one time (on average, fudging the numbers to make things round) NJ could be spending nearly $3M per year on three coaches, while only actually getting the services. I wonder if clubs with cash flow issues have higher coaching tenures…
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And Nashville is at the top of the Most Stable, with one coach for all 11 years of the franchise’s existance.
I’m surprised to see the St. Louis Cardinals on the Least Stable List—since 1980, they’ve had three managers—Herzog, Torre, and LaRussa. And they’ve had a history of long-tenured managers, with Schoendienst with 11 seasons, Billy Southworth with 5, Frankie Frisch with 5, and Branch Rickey with 6. But a run of short-timers early in their history and in the 1950s combined with their 100+ history apparently dragged that average down…but I find it hard to believe it would drag it down to less than an average of two seasons. It’s one of those cases where I’d like to see the numbers, especially if they’re counting interm coaches who weren’t ever hired permamently.
The Sabres, even with Ruff’s tenure, have the same issue—they went through coaches like tissue paper early in their existance.
run the numbers—their list has lots of inaccuracies.
by bilspacecadet on Aug 4, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s interesting stuff, but there doesn’t seem to be too much on the methodology—are interim coaches counted? What about when a coach is suspended for a game (Tortorella/Schoenfeld)?
The Devils are supposedly the team with the most turnover, but the numbers seem to indicate they’ve had 29 head coaches in 35 years (35/1.2). Wikipedia says it’s 14, 18 if you count guys coming back for a second stint (like Lou’s second run at head coach, an interim stint of 3 games).
Something’s weird with that article.
by bilspacecadet on Aug 4, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Bruce was hired on Thanksgiving 2007. By Thanksgiving 2008, he was the longest tenured coach in the Southeast Division.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Almost… Green is 65-133-198, plus 77 in 204 games under Boudreau.
And yes, he did score the first goal of the Boudreau era — 2:27 into the first period against Philadelphia (Backstrom, Poti); Caps won, 4-3 in overtime.
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Wait. A plus-77? Good gravy.
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AND ITS THE SOUTHEAST DIVISION1
gO fLYERZZZZ
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
New source of entertainment
Watching the price of Winter Classic tickets on ebay. Keep in mind that Penguins STH’s don’t know their seats yet.
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What’s it at now?
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
From what I can tell, the cheapest asking price is around $300 ea. Some look as high as $1,000.
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did you check the ticket exchange?
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:) absolutely….and I saw your note…I just haven’t gotten around to sending out e-mails yet (no gmail at work recently)
I need to take mine down, gfcapsfan will be enjoying my seats.
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And thanks for that. Will have to bring you back a souvenir of some kind (aside from a win, of course).
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wins are always good!
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but you risk selling to a Penguins fan!
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Pretty sure there’s going to be a buttload of them there anyway. That’s the biggest reason I won’t be there.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
When this was first announced I told my Pens fan co-worker I was going and the look of shock I got from him was priceless – he was like “you’re going?? But…you’ll get shot!”
Of course now that I have my ticket he’s trying to walk it back which is nice of him I suppose. You know, telling me I probably won’t be shot. Much appreciated, Pens boy.
We’ve got your back – at least until a real gun is pulled and then you are on your own.
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No, you won’t get shot in Pittsburgh. That’s Philly. Pens fans will probably just give you verbal crap. (I’ve attended games in both cities.)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
And the North Shore (where Heinz Field is) is pretty insulated.
Take a wrong turn or two from Consol/Mellon and you can end up in pretty bad neighborhoods.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
I read the words North Shore and Heinz Field in the same sentence and was totally confused.
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Thinking Chicago?
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No. There is only true one in my mind.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 4, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Big Island?
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Nostalgia rec for Waimea.
It takes...something? Anything?!?
by Bald Pollack on Aug 4, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
As BP mentions above that is Waimea Bay on the North Shore. North Shore is on Oahu, not the Big Island.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
Fudge. That’s what I meant. I’ve been out that direction. My sister got married at the Turtle Bay Hilton.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Wow! I wish I had been invited to your sister’s wedding. Turtle Bay is a beautiful property with gorgeous views. That property is no longer a Hilton property by the way.
We Arizonans love the North Shore. Just ask the great surfing legend Rick Kane.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
You’ll get more than that. Easily. Selling them will probably help pay for a couple of playoff rounds.
These tickets are so unique in their value and demand, I’m taking mine to the secondary market and not looking back. Especially when the WC is coming here in a couple of years. Even more so when I know what Pittsburgh is like in January.
Im with you Cluster, If I could double what I paid for them, that would be a huge help with my season tickets. It looks like there are upper level pairs going for over $700 on ebay already.
#NeedsMoreBradley
Wow. I have to believe the market is going to come down.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
I’m sure somehow you’ll find a way to get the inside track on a pair of tickets. ;)
"Because the game is not just about fighting no more. " D.J. King
how is it that Caps STHers know where their seats are, but Pens STHers don’t?
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What are the sections for Caps fans? I want to make sure I buy in the right section.
FWIW – I think the prices will come down. People will decide not to go for any of a variety of reasons. With 70K plus tickets, anyone that really wants one will be able to get one, although no guarantee of cost.
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we’re scattered all over the place, as far as I know.
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That really bites. Your tickets in 534 look good from a visibility section, but the last thing I want is to show up in Caps regalia among many Pens fans.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Given that we’ll all be bundled up in parkas, it’s going to be tough to rock the red. They’d better be including hats and gloves in Classic merchandise, though.
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You know there will be a few hearty souls in t-shirts and shorts or even no-shirts. Depends on the alcohol flow.
In reality, some silk long underwear, a wool seater under the jersey, flannel lined pants, and wool socks might just do the trick, unless we’re looking at some sub-zero temperatures.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
There is a chance it’s not that cold there, too. Checking the weather on January 1 over the last 4 or 5 years it looks like they range anywhere from high 20s to mid-50s, most of them closer to the latter.
I’m hoping for 38 degrees – cold enough for the ice to be decent but not cold enough to freeze.
And don’t forget that the adrenaline will be pumping a bit, as will your choice of beer, harder stuff or hot chocolate.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Remember that alcohol only makes you think you’re warm. I worry more about my feet being cold than anything else. And that’s in spite of really nice warm boots, that never seem to be as warm as they were advertised (Canadian made with a sub-zero rating).
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Don’t forget, Heinz Field is pretty much a gigantic wind tunnel. 30 degrees isn’t that cold, but it feels cold as hell when the wing is whipping by at 30 MPH.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on Aug 4, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Good point. I’m in the end zone that’s closed off, would that make it more or less windy?
Whatevs, I’m bringing a blanket and a space heater and a sherpa.
You should just bring a tauntaun.
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by boutros23 on Aug 4, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Revealing my geekdom, did you know there’s a sleeping bag in the shape of one now?
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That is Very Significant Geekdom
No way I’d have known what a tauntaun is without Googling.
In fact, I still don’t know what it is.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
by STLSpidey on Aug 4, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
HOLY HELL I WANT ONE
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by Steck It Out on Aug 4, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
That will keep you warm in Maine, but I’m afraid it will limit your ability to attract the ladies.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Apparently, they smell bad on the outside
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 4, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah… the nerd in me said to Rec this… so I did
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
more, I think. The wind will come right off the rivers and blast you in the face.
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I'll be there and warm even if it's -45

and yes, I have a red caps jersey that will fit over that coat.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I'm ready...as long as no one knocks me over

And… it’s RED!
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by ThePeerless on Aug 4, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
A trick I’ve picked up at Lambeau Field in the winter…handwarmers in the gloves, foot warmers in the boots and if it’s really cold, get some of those stick on back heating pad thingies. You can use a couple under all the layers, and they really help keep your core warm.
by funkyceili79 on Aug 4, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The dad in me will add one more thing – have a good hat.
Back in the day, I spent three winters in Russia and found my muskrat hat to be indispensable and make a huge difference.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Am I more productive in the summer...
when I avoid reading and commenting on hockey as much as possible? And when i’m not watching something 3-4 times a week for 2.5-4 hours (including recaps)?
As it turns out, yes. Much more so.
Is any of that stuff profitable or helping my life?
As it turns out, no.
Before I begin ranting and raving, I’d just like to say that the guy i used to poo on the most (relative) is likely gonna retire, if he’s smart: Brendan Witt. He’s not smart, and some team might take a chance on him for depth, as a 6 or 7, but if you can’t make it on last years Long Island team (or the 05 Caps), you can’t make it anywhere, sort of the inverse of Manhattan.
The Way is riddled with deep, dark holes.
by The Jade Donkey on Aug 4, 2010 10:21 AM EDT reply actions
Just a little housekeeping,
Will the Caps visit the Devils on March 18, the hosts will be decked out in their Christmas Tree finery. One would assume that the Caps would rock their Winter Classic retro look for the game. [Fire & Ice]
I think you meant to say When the Caps…. but you know, just a thought.
I was already thinking of going up to a Caps game at the Rock this season. This would be a good reason to go (it’s also a Friday night).
How much are tickets up there? I think I want to try doing a road game somewhere and that seems like a fairly non-intimidating place (relatively speaking) to attempt it.
Or, you know, I could look it up myself and NOT be a lazy ass. :)
Perhaps mildly OT, but the wife and I are mulling hitting the ATL game before the home opener, as there’s supposedly some good air+hotel packages.
It takes...something? Anything?!?
by Bald Pollack on Aug 4, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I paid something in the $30s apiece for nosebleed center ice last season.
The Rock’s nice. So are the fans I was sitting near. I thoroughly enjoyed chat and trask talk with the Devils fan next to me.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
One warning – the neighborhood the Rock is in…not so nice.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Part of the reason I was thinking of going is that it’s a very short walk from the train station.
Also, I live in a not-so-nice part of DC, so I think I can handle myself. :)
The Rock is a good choice for a non-intimidating place to do a road game. So are either of the Florida games (preference for Sunrise over Tampa Bay). RBC Center is a little intimidating. I loved Nassau Coliseium’s people but what a dump o.o
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
It’s a long drive, but STL is about an unintimidating as they come. Fans sitting towards the glass moved out of the way during pre-game warm-ups so that fans in Caps jerseys could get closer. Ushers gladly let anyone towards the glass for warm-ups regardless of where the actual seat was.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
That’s awesome. Nassau was the same, and the VC is like that as well except in the case of a few key jerkoffs.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
FWIW – there’s also a protocol back. If I get hospitality back, then I don’t get rude in return.
At one game against the Sabres last year, a family in black Sabres jerseys cheered loudly and rudely against the Blues and for the Sabres in our ears the whole game. Cheer for your team, but respect where you are.
One other story — when Dallas Drake was the captain of the Blues, his wife and kids sat right behind the tickets I split. The seats to their right were not held by season ticket holders. One night, Mrs. Drake shows up with three kids under 10 and guys to her right start ragging on Dallas the entire game. Really badly. She sat there calmly all game. It was all I could do not to say something. Maybe I should have.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
Fans in the RBC are very vocal and very noisy, but I never felt intimidated when I was there. They were quite courteous and were very pleasant folks….just loud.
Pittsburgh fans in Pittsburgh are loud, obnoxious and can be rude, but they are also very aware that their right to be rude ends in your personal space. After the game, they’re actually rather pleasant.
Philly is the only visiting rink I’ve ever been afraid in, and I was in a Group of 40 Caps fans!
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--- D'ohboy
by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OF COURSE Mitchell is an upgrade to our dcorps. it’s either him, Slow-n or erskine. Heck, I’D be an upgrade to our defensive corps
(totally kidding rant over, I’d be killed in the NHL, and that’s just getting on to the ice for warm ups)
by 8vechkin on Aug 4, 2010 10:57 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Mitchell if healthy is better than Erskine or Sloan. That he missed half a season and the playoffs recovering from a concussion makes the “if healthy” clause in that sentence the big issue.
Personally, I’d make him an offer and see if he can play. If he’s not healthy, then he goes on the long term injury, he’s off the cap, and the Caps insurance company pays him.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 4, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
you’re very generous with ted’s money! i would imagine it would be tough to insure that contract given his recent history. but i would agree that for a reasonable sum and short term, it would be a good risk.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 4, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Or, as Vogs suggests, just bank the cap space and see how the kids do. Mitchell isnt likely to accept an offer that wouldnt eat up the majority of the Caps remaining $4.4 Million in cap room. Let someone else run the risk of Mitchell relapsing after a hard hit – I wish him nothing but the best, but cap space is such a luxury now, and injuries are so unpredictable, to have that flexibilty is almost worht more than the actual $4.4 million, if that makes sense.
i hate to underestimate the stupidity of NHL GM’s, but do you really think he can get $4M+?
cleary his health and the terms of any deal will dictate whether it would be a good move or not, but balking on him because he could get hurt again is the type of risk aversion that i think will hurt this team. if they dont think he’s fully recovered and/or he’s looking for a long term deal for top $, then fine, take a pass and go with the kids.
but if he’s healthy and willing to sign a short term reasonable deal, then its a good risk to take. any player can get hurt in this game. remember that “seeing how the kids do” includes either erskine or sloan as your number 6 dman…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 4, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Not exactly – it’s doubtful that the Caps would insure Mitchell’s contract (either through the League insurance or separately), since it’d be so cheap and short-term (presumably). Interesting read on the topic, generally, here.
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from reading that, it sounds like even if the caps wanted to insure mitchells contract, the insurer would not pay any claims related to head injuries.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 4, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Looks like ESPN posted a SE division preview today.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog/_/name/nhl/id/5434125/cup-sight-caps
Save your eyeballs.
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It seems too cursory for real analysis.
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Tons of depth, huh?
Seems like filler during the summer.
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Pretty much. Not much is happening in hockey right now.
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Posting a preview now is really a fool’s errand. The teams aren’t close to set yet.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Quick, Becca, cancel this afternoon’s post!
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Posting a preview now is really afool’s errandboredom exercise.
Fixed.
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I’m sorry vtcapsfan99 I struck out on finding pics of Nicklas.
NHL.com got an article about the game in English.
I had a twitter convo last night with the guy that wrote the Icebreaker article JP linked to. It’s the same guy that provided the great potato barn pic from yesterdays clips thread.
Here’ some translated tweets with stuff that didn’t make the article.
Nicklas played the whole game with an Atlanta Thrashers-t-shirt under his jersey
Either he didn’t have money to buy one for himself or he borrowed one from Tobias Enström
Bäckis and Foppa found each other well on the ice. The present and the past on the ice together
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Nicky’s a pro at living out of another man’s suitcase while he’s on the road. But really Nicky, the Thrashers???
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Bäckis and Foppa found each other well on the ice. The present and the past on the ice together
What an evocative quote. Love it.
The ice will show everything.
"Chris Smith" controversy in Buffalo
Much angst in Buffalo about the release of Tim Kennedy, local boy and 6th round draft pick who made it to the NHL on the basis of grit and pluck and who was unceremoniously bought ought out yada, etc, and so on. You know the story line.
FWIW, the team’s explanation made sense to me. He plays left wing, there’s a logjam at that position, and we were willing to pay him $750 or so, and we expected him to get around that in an arb award. When he got more than that, well, we aren’t willing to pay that kind of money to a guy that’s going to battle for 4th line minutes. It’s a capped environment, and every $100K counts.
The most damning indictment is the misread on the arb outcome, and the subsequent loss of an asset for nothing. Or, worse than nothing. BUF will pay Kennedy (and take a cap hit) for him to play elsewhere. Not good management.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
It’s a capped environment, and every $100K counts.
So they’d rather pay $167k this year AND next to avoid paying about $250k more than they wanted to this season? And every dollar does count, for budget and cap reasons, but Buffalo’s in a fairly rabid market (they’re usually #1 or #2 in TV ratings) and they’re sitting $5 million+ under the salary cap, with no really important RFA’s still to be signed.
That’s a good decision for them – spreading $334,000 over two years for a player that won’t play for you, rather than spending about $250,000 more this year than they wanted?
Doesn’t make much sense to me either.
Also Kennedy’s cap hit (after bonuses) was $850k last season. I don’t have the numbers, but not many players actually take a pay hit coming out of the usually salary inflating process of arbitration. Granted, the cost is just $167k this year and next, but they really should have traded him before July 15 if they weren’t going to go above a salary of $750k.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Well, it’s a difference of paying $167K this year (and next) versus paying $1M this year…so it’s more than a $250K spread.
I agree with your point about trading him, which I covered in the “mismanagement of an asset” critique at the end of my post.
After Karl Alzner had to stay in Hershey rather than playing in DC due to $12.5K in cap room that just wasn’t there, I have no issues with a team scrimping on cap space.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Right. But if they arb award came in at $750k, the accounts say that they would have accepted that. So the difference of paying $250k more this year is enough for them to really a savings this season on total salary but pay $167k next year that they wouldn’t be on the hook for.
And that $167k is nearly the amount more than they didn’t like (the difference in $1m and $750k).
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
But once you’ve made the decision that you’re not paying $1M to a guy that’s going to max out at 4th line minutes, your options are mighty limited under the CBA. So they took the option that saved them some dough and some cap room. Not much, but some.
Again, it’s poor management to piss away an asset for nothing, and even worse management to have a cap hit for a player that plies his trade on another team. So I’m not saying Regier did a great job here. I’m just saying I understand why they went the way they did.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I love Ovie...
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Aug 4, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions
A new series of mini-content kicks off today, kids – just a little way to cut the boredom of August…
Darren Helm re-signs with Detroit. 2 years, 825k first year, 1m second.
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Hey boutros23
Sorry about that – I killed that game in a fit of frustration.
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