Wednesday Caps Clips
by J.P. on Aug 25, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- In just 22 days, the Caps (well, their rookies) will play the Flyers (well, whatever's left of their farm system). It's good to get the kids hatin' the black and orange at a young age. [Capitals]
- The Caps greatly out-performed their payroll in 2009-10 (in the regular season, at least). [Mile High Hockey]
- Based on Puck Prospectus's VUKOTA formula, Mike Knuble projects to 19 goals for this coming season. Bet the over. [ESPN ($)]
- Speaking of Knuble, former teammate Aaron Ward hung up the skates on Tuesday. Quitter. [RtR]
- A Caps-minded look at the 'Canes. [Masisak]
- Do the Caps need "shut-down" players? [Red Line Station]
- Cruisin' with Matt Bradley. [Caps365 (video)]
- Czech kids get booted from the national team, pull the "I learned if by watching you!" on Alexander Semin. [RMNB]
- Speaking of Czechs who look like they're 12, Michal Neuvirth speaks (and Google translates). [iDNES.cz via Google Translate]
- The VC is already rockin' a little more red. [DCEx]
- How Albert Haynesworth has hurt... Caps fans? [OFB, (somewhat related: this from LiR]
- The Albany Devils will host the Bears on February 4... in Atlantic City. Sounds like a road trip waiting to be taken. [Patriot-News]
- Prospect Garrett Mitchell has been named captain of the Regina Pats. [Slap Shots]
- Finally, happy 49th birthday to Dave Tippett (and his wonderful 'stache).
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That OFB article is infuriating, as per usual
She’d become very much a sports generalist, covering numerous playing fields here. There’s virtue in that, I suppose, but it wasn’t the pretense upon which she’d moved here. Moreover, hockey here at such a critical time needed what Hillary brought back in 2007: serious credentials, and serious devotion. It was a distinctive vision by Comcast, and it needed to be supported. From my vantage, it wasn’t.
Meanwhile, Comcast Sportsnet in Philadelphia accords the Flyers a status on par with the Eagles and the Sixers and the Phillies, as sports media outlets in authentic sports towns tend to do. An under-utilized but industry-acknowledged talent in D.C. was, to some extent, going to waste, and Comcast execs in Philly pursued Hillary hard. Hillary was presented with precisely the challenge there she was here four years ago, only this time there would be no Lucy pulling the football on Charlie Brown. Flyers’ fans won’t tolerate shunned status for their beloved bullies. Beginning next month Hillary will be an authentic beat reporter in an authentic sports town.
So, you acknowledge her as an “under-used but industry-acknowledged talent” and say she was “going to waste” right after you point out how Comcast used her as a “sports generalist, covering many fields here”. Correct me if i’m wrong, but if she’s being used to cover a lot of different things, wouldn’t that make her the opposite of “under-used”?
And that’s without me pointing out the “Hillary will be an authentic beat reporter in an authentic sports town”. Did he start working for ThePensblog all of a sudden?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 7:09 AM EDT reply actions
Ignoring the worship all over that article, it’s disappointing that CSN Washington is losing someone who actually knows the game. It’s infuriating to listen to many of their anchors butcher players’ names and sound totally lost when reading reports. I’m not her biggest fan — I think she makes plenty of errors — but I agree with OFB that coverage will suffer if there isn’t someone who’s first job is to cover the Caps, with fill in work secondary.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
I find the between periods name butchering to be the most entertaining thing Comcast does.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
My favorite is when they are still struggling with a last name when the relevant clip has already ended.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
It’s must-view television. I don’t even get up from the couch until they’ve done the highlights.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
“And Marian Gooberik scores a hot trick!”
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
The highlight for me was when David Lee, master of the spoken word, actually mispronounced HIS OWN name.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 25, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
David Lei?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
“My name is David Wang for CSN, good night.”
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Could this mean more screen time for Corey?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it – very different skillsets there.
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My most fond memory of Lisa Hillary covering the Caps...
Will always be the footage of her interviewing Chris Clark and Budreau after they beat the Panthers to clinch a playoff spot in 08. Not really because she has anything to do with it, but I just can’t watch the clip without getting a little choked up. I will always consider it to be the day that spawned the rapid increase in hockey fandom for so many in this area. What an awesome moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYm5cDa6U8w
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Aug 25, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The rat sighting wasn’t your fave?
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by J.P. on Aug 25, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No…however it was certainly “memorable”.
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Aug 25, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No love for her “holiday sweater”?
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a “Lisa Hillary’s Christmas Sweater” username on here.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I still get goosebumps listening to Joe B. “If hockey has a Cinderella team….”
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
Donation info for SAVES FOR KIDS 2010!! Make a difference.
Locker: “Has anyone left the building?”
Joe B: “Noooo”
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Aug 25, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds a little like her off the record complaining about things here made his post (and admittedly I know more about rhabdomyolysis than I really care to). Maybe she’ll come back when/if the Ted network ever springs up.
"I think he is just a joy to watch, he plays every game like there's not going to be one next week for him, like someone's going to take it away from him next game."
by Bald Pollack on Aug 25, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
May that be the first time the word “rhabdomyolysis” has ever been used at Japers’ Rink?
A Capital Wasteland - art & hockey from Washington, D.C.
by Jake Shapiro on Aug 25, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Much more likely to see “myxomatosis” than "rhabdomyolysis" around here.
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What a bunch of nerds we are.
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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 25, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
And that’s without me pointing out the "Hillary will be an authentic beat reporter in an authentic sports town". Did he start working for ThePensblog all of a sudden?
In 2006-2007, when the Flyers finished dead last in the league (11 points out of 29th place), they drew more than 19,000 a game and filled their arena to almost 99 percent capacity. In 2006, when they were completing their 13th consecutive year without a playoff appearance, the Phillies drew more than 34,000 fans per game.
I can’t imagine the same thing happening in DC. Philly is a sports town. DC, quite frankly, isn’t in the same league.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Too much distraction from Capitol Hill.
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I blew a gasket when Lisa Hillary interviewed Ovechkin after a game in front of the VC crowd and asked a question with the words “sounding board” in it as the focal point of the question. “Sounding Board”? Really? You think Ovechkin knows what a sounding board is? 1/2 the arena would have trouble describing what a sounding board is. Of course it didn’t really matter because Ovechkins answers every question the same.
4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...
“Sounding board nice, is HD and play funny video of Sasha as cartoon man”
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Aug 25, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sounding Board Ovechkin?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
East Side Ovi?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone (JP?) know if Lisa has ties to SU? I’ve seen her at Sign of the Whale a couple times for Cuse hoops games and she seemed to be cheering for the right team. Couldn’t find anything in her bio though.
You gotta run to a window and say: "Hey, these floors are dirty as hell, and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"
I know not. But she’s talented enough to be an Orange alum.
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So are those Czech prospects blaming their smoking habit or their haircuts on Semin?
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven back to Pittsburgh, and hear the lamentations of Sidney Crosby.
Michal Neuvirth, hockey goalkeeper from the Mouth, is therefore a unique chance to permanently break the NHL.
Uh oh, watch out NHL.
The Wrath of Bjork.
You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!
Google Translate is so bad. Hey, I heard the Toronto Sun has a good Czech translator.
"HISTORY DOESN’T MATTER!!! .... Who cares if it’s never been done? We aren’t those teams who failed before. We are in control of our own destiny, and we will make it happen our own way.." - A Gordon, June 2010
by bagace on Aug 25, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The Mouth of Hell, or Hellmouth, it sounds like.
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
a unique chance to permanently break the NHL
I thought Bettman already did that!
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Raffi Torres signing in VAN should put an end to the Flash-for-Bieksa talk, no?
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All but eliminates Mitchell going back there, no?
So now it’s down to the Caps and the California teams?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Just in case, I set the over/under for posts in the thread before a “have we signed/traded for a Canuck” comment is posted at 41.
"I think he is just a joy to watch, he plays every game like there's not going to be one next week for him, like someone's going to take it away from him next game."
by Bald Pollack on Aug 25, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Seems to do a little of both. According to capgeek.com:
- They’re about $3.6M over the cap – dropping Bieksa for a bag of pucks would put them about $100K under (his contract is $3.75M). Not saying they will, just mentioning it to illustrate that there’s no way they can take another player back.
- They have 24 players signed – they’ll have to dump one.
- They have 9 defensemen on their roster – probably one or more gets traded or waived.
I take this move as an indicator that they have moved on from Mitchell.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Vancouver’s problem might be that they have guys who would be attractive as rentals — Bieksa, Ehrhoff — because they have high cap hits ($3.5M, $3.1M, respectively) and are UFAs after this season. Moving a pick/prospect for a player such as that now, with so much 60-game uncertainty leading to the trading deadline, makes that a higher risk move. Can’t imagine Vancouver getting much in return now for such a player, but they’re over a barrel, too.
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Which means the media will double down on Fleischmann-for-Souray
If you've read this far...seek help.
I don’t get why Fleischmann for Souray has any legs at all. Why not Fleischmann for Huet or Redden while they’re at it?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
OR Flash for Haynesworth! … almost makes the same amount of sense
"If you want money, go to the bank. If you want bread, go to the bakery. If you want goals, go to the net." - Brooks Laich
"...I got the most gentlemanly player in juniors my last year. I'm a gentleman, always a gentleman." - Matt Bradley
The image of Haynesworth on ice skates. What a world.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Is that like LeBron? Because sorry Chris Webber, Lebron can’t just strap on ice skates and be the best hockey player in the world.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
LeBron might look marginally less ridiculous.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
He’s roughly the same size/weight as Chara.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
LeBron – 6-8 250
Chara – 6-9 255
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
So they don’t have to trade someone away right now. But at some point not too far into the season everyone gets healthy and they have a major cap problem. Wouldn’t it make sense that they could get more (or even just something) if they make the trade now, rather than find themselves in a situation where they have to attempt to move someone to the AHL and potentially lose him for nothing?
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
Well, they’re way over the cap and have 24 guys signed on the roster according to CapGeek, including 9 Dmen. Trading Bieksa alone doesn’t give them room for callups even if they just trade picks and prospects. They can’t take salary or roster players back at this point, which leaves them over a barrel.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
They’ve got $3.5 – $5 million starting the season on LTIR (Salo, Burrows), that’s what I was referring to about getting healthy. Someone or multiple someones has to go, but it doesn’t have to be today. I think it’s in their interest to do it sooner rather than later, but that’s just me.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
Ah ha. Good point. I’d agree it’s in their interest to do it now – if they wait until they have to do it they won’t get anywhere near what the players they trade are really worth.
Either way, signing Mitchell would only dig them a bigger hole, so I have to think that the original premise is correct and that this means that the Canucks are out of the race.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I agree with you, but strange things do happen.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
And here’s something from the Sporting News that might just make their problem go away:
It’s likely Salo won’t play this season — and at 36 on Sept. 2, might be finished in the NHL.http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2010-08-25/canucks-injuries-dampen-kevin-bieksa-trade-possibility
Don’t know if that’s pure conjecture by the author, or he has something to base that on.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
Awww, nuts. :P
Poor guy. Here’s wishing the best for him … but it only makes part of the problem go away. He’s at $3.5M, which means they’re about 100K over with 23 players signed and 8 D. So, it makes the problem better, but doesn’t eliminate it entirely.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
They also mention that Alexandre Burrows will probably start the season on LTIR, which gives them about 5.5 million worth of cap hit back, but Burrows will come back eventually. They’re still probably going to deal a defenseman, but I’d suspect it was one of Andrew Alberts or Shane O’Brien who was being shipped out, rather than Bieksa.
Shane O’Brien-ugh. Andrew Alberts – double ugh.
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Poor Salo
Awww, nuts. :P
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
by boutros23 on Aug 25, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s what… oh, never mind.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
The OTOT would appreciate your thoughts on the matter.
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
WILLIE OR WON’T HE?!
Somebody will steal this brilliant article title I just came up with, just watch.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
http://twitter.com/vanmag_com/status/21433866419
http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100824102708AAoAw4m
http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/Clampdown+diving+leaves+Canucks+deep+trouble/2514886/story.html
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I’m waiting for him to get on the same team as Brock Nelson, so if he gets in the lineup and Nelson gets scratched you can get a “WILLIE IN FOR NELSON” headline
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I had always hoped that Robert Lang and Alex Auld would hit free agency at the same time and then reach deals on the same day so someone could use “Auld, Lang Sign.”
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by J.P. on Aug 25, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
See, i’m excited for when Bruno Gervais does something where he gets disciplined by the league office.
“GERVAIS HEADED TO THE OFFICE”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Well done.
OtF: our captain can beat up your captain.
Bitter and Blue: if you can't beat 'em; buy 'em.
by Chris Burton on Aug 25, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice! That one actually is a groaner
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
BOOOOOOOOO
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Urns.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Aug 25, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not following? That was intended as another form of groaning.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Burton’s never seen the Simpsons.
Ever.
by DrinkingPartner on Aug 25, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
STFU.
OtF: our captain can beat up your captain.
Bitter and Blue: if you can't beat 'em; buy 'em.
by Chris Burton on Aug 25, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
..I was saying Boo-urton.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 25, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
my two cents on willie — I think he clearly wants to stay on the WC but the Caps are still in the running because 1) they are a legit cup contender 2) either they offered him slightly more money or a longer deal which he wants the WC to match so his decision becomes a no-brainer
"If you want money, go to the bank. If you want bread, go to the bakery. If you want goals, go to the net." - Brooks Laich
"...I got the most gentlemanly player in juniors my last year. I'm a gentleman, always a gentleman." - Matt Bradley
Since it's Dave Tippett's birthday
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 7:47 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think I saw that game on TV in Canada, I think CTV showed it on a Sunday afternoon here (back when CTV used to carry hockey in the Toronto Region)
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Another D-Man on the market
It’s been said Bryce Salvador and his 4 year contract has been put on the market by the Devs (Not that they would likely deal with us anyhow; And Stars are a possible dancing partner). Not saying I want him. Just throwing it out there.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
Can’t imagine GMGM liking the idea of a 4-year contract.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh, gee you mean NJ has a cap problem? I wonder why? :-)
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
Salvador has been rumored to be on the trade market for a bit due to the lack of a NTC/NMC and the Devils cap situation.
However, while he signed a 4 year contract, he has already played 2 years of that contract, his current contract expires in 2 seasons, summer of 2013.
Thanks sk8. I wasn’t aware of that—good info to know.
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we would be interested in him either, the 4 year contract being the main sticking point but if he is dealt to say the Stars then that frees up one of their D-men on their depth chart who may be a more viable guy for an option for 6-D here.
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Questions about the ESPN link
Does the Puck Prospectus VUKOTA formula stand for something, or is it actually named after ex-Islander Mick Vukota?
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
Based on Puck Prospectus’s VUKOTA formula, Mike Knuble projects to 19 goals for this coming season. Bet the over. [ESPN ($)]
I’ll take Knuble over and over and over
#NeedsMoreBradley
Yeah, I don’t see him getting that few unless he’s injured.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 25, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Imagine getting this cool card when opening up a pack
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That Seals jersey is sweet. Too bad Charlie O was such a crazy bastard.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You have a problem with a live mule as a mascot YLM?
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It should have been ruled out after that nutjob Stockton from the 1st Cav snuck Maggie the Mule over to Vietnam, and someone shot her at night after she was mistaken for VC.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I never realized. Forgive my misconduct ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Love the caption at the bottom… just perfect…
Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy
by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 25, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
JAROMIR JAGR ON THE RANGERS PUCKMORE?
Madness.
Madness Madness Madness.
That’s an original 6 team we’re talking about. He played there three and a half years!
I think that’s the worst Puckmore mistake yet. I don’t know how that can be topped.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
Agreed. How does one choose Jagr over someone like Mike Richter. To this day when I think of the Rangers (during my life time) I think of Richter, Leetch and Messier.
To be fair, these are what knocked some NYR players from consideration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjntNHHUs0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYtWlmaKsww&NR=1
Therefore no flowing locks of Ron Duguay on MYR’s Mount Puckmore.
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
How bout some love for Andy Bathgate.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Rod Gilbert?
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by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Rod Gilbert should’ve been on there. Or Jean Ratelle.
I’d put either of them over Jagr for sure, and possibly over Messier. Leetch, in my mind, was the best Ranger player ever.
I haven’t been reading the Puckmore series, but that’s crazy…Lester Patrick, Gilbert, Bathgate, Ratelle, Giacomin, Richter…in no particular order…heck, I’d put Fotiu up there before Jagr…
I’m with you. Sad that a bunch of Caps fans can quickly come up with a better list than a Rangers fan can.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jagr won two playoff series? Hell, I won four. Where’s my face?
Signed,
ED-DIE ED-DIE ED-DIE
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by ThePeerless on Aug 25, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
They should put Redden, Roszival, Brashear and Boogaard on there and call it “Mount Sather” because that’s what’s happening to poor Glen in Free Agency.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
There are a lot of directions he could have gone. He could have done the hybrid Richter/Beezer mask and talked about that epic goalie controversy, where people still today think Beezer was better but Richter got them the ring.
As long as we’re on goalies, about hall of famers Gump Worsley Ed Giacomin or Dave Kerr (who won the 1940 cup). Hell, I wouldn’t have minded Lundqvist on there.
Gilbert is a good choice. Bryan Hextall is a hall of famer who played his whole career with the Rangers and scored the most goals in 1940.
Or you could have put Wade Redden up there. I’m serious — Redden as a symbol of the failed “try to buy a championship” strategy that has driven that organization into the ground over and over again. Right now, Redden (and Glen Sather) are the faces of the Rangers in my mind.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone on the Puck Daddy thread said the fourth should’ve been an Oilers jersey.
It’s hard for me to comment on guys who played in the 40s, 50s, and 60s, but I’m sure there are countless who are better suited for the honor. Redden, well… It’s always difficult for me to blame players in any sport for being overpaid. They and their agents may ask for a certain amount of money, but it’s the owners and GMs that are foolish enough to pay it.
Wysh tweet
I challenge Rangers bloggers to come up w/ list of how many players legitimately belonged on Puckmore before Jags. Over/under: 25
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Bryan Hextall (for our longtime fans)
Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Stupid. That’s almost as bad as the Chicago one.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Winter Classic
They assigned the seats for the people who bought the travel package this morning. I’m now in 118 Row M, which is MUCH better than 538 Row HH where I originally was.
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Possible. Stay tuned. They might show up in the RRTE.
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by Scott in Shaw on Aug 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW
Per @TSNBobMcKenzie, Steve Downie to Tampa, 2 yrs/$3.7M.
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That’s actually good value. Yzerman continues to impress, with the contingency that his product has not hit the ice yet.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 25, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s becoming pretty clear that the Hamilton Lightning are going to be a force to be reckoned with for many years to come
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Question
on the Staal situation. Since NY already said they’ll match whatever, why don’t the Caps force their hand and offer Staal a hefty above-market deal? It could be win-win by forcing the Rags to over pay when they dont have the cap space OR the Caps might actually sign him outright OR since he’s a RFA maybe the Caps could send back pieces involving flash. I would be okay with overpaying Staal knowing Poti comes off the books next year and 5 of our 6 d would be set for years to come (green, staal, schultz, carlson, alzner)… thoughts?
"If you want money, go to the bank. If you want bread, go to the bakery. If you want goals, go to the net." - Brooks Laich
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One, it’s generally considered poor form among the GM community. Off the top of my head, I can’t think of any other examples of GM putting an offer sheet on a guy.
Two, you have to have the draft picks in order to even make the offer. Assuming the Caps wanted to offer him something in the $5M range, they’d need to have a 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder next year. They don’t have the 2nd rounder (thanks, Corvo).
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
to your second point – is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd rounder automatic or can the return be negotiated. I know GMGM isnt a fan of trading picks but perhaps a return of Flash, Erskine and a #1 would perk interest
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Automatic, per the CBA. You have to have the draft picks, and they have to be your own draft picks, and not ones that are acquired via trade.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
thanks for sharing your wealth of knowledge (also making my idea bunk)…
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The Caps would end up overpaying then (and giving up picks!), so I’d rather not, though the 2nd oldest Staal is possibly the best at what he does. NYR probably is waiting for an offer sheet that they’ll match, hence clearing this thing up, or Staal will decide to sign short term for cheap because he just wants to play (similar thing went down last year with Dubinsky).
SJS offer sheeted Hjammer in CHI, and of course we have Lowe.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
We don’t have our second-round draft pick next year, so we have to sign Staal in the first- and third-round range. That would be somewhere around 4M, which isn’t an overpayment for his skills, but it’s a pretty hefty cap hit going forward.
Isn’t Staal wanting $5M, and the Rangers want to keep him at or under $4M? I think I’m remembering that correctly.
At any rate, if that’s true, that tier of offer sheet would play right into the Rangers’ hands. They’d match that in a heartbeat and thank the Caps for helping out (if, indeed, Staal would sign such an offer sheet).
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Sather did say it is a chasm, and if I’m Sather I’m trying for $3.5 million or less.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else here worried if the ‘Ning’ get any type of decent goaltending they could challenge the Caps for the division? Not that I would be upset if we lost the division since we dont know what to do with it come playoff time, But it would be good to get some competion going again in the SE!
Challenge for a playoff spot, yes. The division, no. I stated a couple of weeks ago I expect the Bolts to finish in 7th or 8th in the East. Goaltending, defense, and Vinny are too big question mark wise to have them overtaking the Caps.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
CB will tell you Ellis is a perfect 1A starter. For clear cut #1 he might have consistency issues, but it’s really not much different than with Halak, save Halak is a couple of years younger.
It’ll take more than that. On paper the Lightning are kind of close, but the Caps play “offense is the best defense” better than most other teams, including TBL.
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
…1B, actually.
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by Chris Burton on Aug 25, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Even if the Caps fall back to Earth a bit (as I expect them to), they’re still ~110 point team. That’s enough to put you top 5 (and usually top 3) in the league. The Caps are still elite, they quite possibly could repeat as the best regular season team again, although probably not crack 121 points. I don’t think the Bolts, or anyone else in the SE, is quite to that elite level yet. But, hey, stranger things have happened and that’s why the play the game.
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Just looked at thier roster and I see how the blueline doesnt scare me, I like some of those players, Will be intresting to see how they get Gange into the line up, I would assume 2nd line but who knows. They do have a nice balance among the forwards that have skill and grit..
Please don’t take this the wrong way, but… is there any chance you can take a few more seconds and post with better spelling and grammar?
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by J.P. on Aug 25, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Since Knuble’s mug is on this mornings page, I hope the Caps sign him for at least another year, IMO I think Eric Fehr will be on the top line but I would like to see Knuble extended.
Thoughts?
Mike Knuble’s signed for this year. I think you’re thinking of next year.
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He means extend him for another year.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t mind the Caps giving Knuble 1 year contracts until he’s ready to retire. I do think this is probably his last year as a top line player if he lasts the entire year there (which I think I can). I’m not sure if Fehr has top line in his future, I definitely think he has number two. But then again Knuble’s game isn’t really based on speed and finesse and he works on the top line quite well, so there’s certainly a chance Fehr can find his niche there if he develops his net game.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
So lets say Knuble is signed for 1 more year but plays on any line but not the first line, Who makes that jump or do the Caps go FA for another winger?
My guess would be Fehr, although Semin could and (possibly) Laich. I wouldn’t want to see Laich up there, but it’s possible.
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I’d say it would be Fehr out of necessity and not necessarily ability. I don’t think Semin is still on the Caps after this year, and even if he were I wouldn’t want him on the top line. Having Semin on the team pretty much means no real second line center (barring MP/Mackan filling that role), so the second line would still run through him. Putting him on the top line would make the Caps a one line team.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d add I think the Caps were hoping Laich could take that top line spot. After last season I’m not so sure about that happening. I’d sign Knuble as an insurance policy. You can put him on any line and he’ll be successful.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Anybody in Hershey that could make the jump? I would love to see Fehr on the top line it would be like having a younger Knuble!
I don’t see guys like Andrew Gordon or Jay Beagle being able to fill that role. Those are 4th line type guys. I could see Fehr on the top line. However, most likely I see him being a winger on the 2nd line.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
(Cody Eakin, ‘cept he’s a center/LW)
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I think Andrew Gordon projects as an NHL 3rd liner. He was on the first line in Hershey last year.
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I can see Gordon cracking the 3rd line.
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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 25, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone who ever thought Laich would be able to take top line duties on a full time basis is foolish and delusional.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve been called delusional.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry if that came off as a bit harsh, but I get annoyed by the Laich love sometimes. He’s a great quote, and I’m sure he’s great in the locker room. But he’s not nearly as good as some people seem to think (also not nearly as consistent with the bakery as he should be, especially given his quotes). He’s a good role player that can play 2/3 line duties. And every team needs that kind of player, but I think the Caps are going to end up overpaying for him.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
At this point I don’t think it’s anymore unreasonable than making the assumption that Fehr can play on the first line….atleast a first line with Ovechkin and Backstrom.
If a player is going to be playing on the top line they better damned well be able to produce at ES. All metrics that I’ve seen have shown Fehr to be efficient with his limited TOI at ES whereas Laich is mediocre (at best) on ES and makes his living on the PP, inflating his numbers and causing him to be overvalued. There are many reasons and numbers I’ve seen that make me think it’s more likely Fehr can play that spot than Laich. (I will defer to KhtaD for the numbers and actual rankings).
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll grant you the point in realtion to ES points….there’s no question that Fehr is more suited than Laich in that sense. But, IMO, Fehr hasn’t shown that he has the skating ability to belong up there.
Knuble isn’t exactly a speed demon. You don’t need to be as fast as Rico Fata when you’re wheel house is really just a 10 foot radius around the net. (Right, F&B?)
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which is why signing Knuble for another year isn’t a big risk. If he loses a bit of speed given his age its not a big deal.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Fehr seems to be nearly as good a skater as Knuble. One of the main differences is that Knuble battles for the puck in the corners more.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
Knuble’s diminishing foot speed is made up for by his positioning and his willingness to battle along the boards and in front of the net. Fehr just hasn’t shown he’s willing to do those things on a regular basis yet. Certainly, there have been glimpses of what’s to come but right now I just don’t see him as any more/less of a replacement for Knuble than Laich is.
I’m curious as to what Fehr looks like after finally being healthy for a full season and not having to recover from surgery in the off season. I don’t think he’s going to magically start battling along the boards, but as good as he looked last season, he might look even better this time.
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I agree completely…and throughout the season we all saw glimpses of the player Fehr can be. I just don’t think that right now he has any more (or less) of a chance to replace Knuble. Will that change as the season progresses? I hope so.
I think it would help Fehr to bulk up a little. 6’4", only 212… seems a little light to be battling in front of the net. Knuble has 11 pounds on him, even though he’s an inch shorter.
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I have to say, seeing him in street clothes my first reaction was “How do you not snap in half?!”
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Laich hasn’t shown the willingness to battle that Knuble does either. I think it’s more likely that Fehr takes that step this year than Laich does. Part of the reason is Fehr finally has a healthy summer to train. Another part is what I’ve already mentioned; Laich’s “do as I say, not as I do” issues with his playing style.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but can he do the 25-yard shuttle drill?
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by ThePeerless on Aug 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps if the coach allowed him to play on a more “regular basis”. we’d see more evidence of the qualities you mention.
by mechanicsville on Aug 25, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No offense taken SME. I thought he’d step up last year and he didn’t. However, I don’t think it was delusional to think he could become the guy to take over for Knuble.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I know that was the hope, and I was hoping (though not optimistic) that he would step up. Two years ago he had his bakery quotes and comments about crashing the net. It’s certainly well and good to say the right things. But even when he was saying those things he would still have stretches of games where he seemed to think he had Semin’s skill and was trying to be a fancy Dan as opposed to making the tough places tough to go to. That’s what has always made me skeptical. He certainly was better about it last year, but the inconsistency was still there to my eyes.
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think we are far apart on our opinion. I just took issue with the stridency of your initial comment.
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by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Understood. It’s just one of those buttons (though not a major one).
The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 25, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
According to PD, the NHL rejected the “framework” of a new Kovalchuk deal from the Devils. No details, except that it might have been 15 years. I wonder if they’ll learn from the last deal. The story is in the sidebar, BTW.
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So down the road, I think the Caps need to look at getting some wingers that are first or 2nd line quality, I agree with Timmyv38 in that Hershey has alot of guys that can come up for 3rd line positions. I think they need to look at getting some d-guys as well.
I think the Bears do have some guys who could be 2nd line wingers in the future, just not yet. There are recent Caps prospects though, like Galiev and Kuznetsov. When it comes to dmen, the Caps also have a few prospects, Orlov seeming to be the most likely.
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Any word on if Kugryshev will be skating in the A this year?
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
He will, pending the outcome of his bag skates.
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His visa issues of his making? Or just based on his prior conditioning issues?
I have a great pic of him on my phone face down behind a net after herbies.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
Visa issues have absolutely nothing to do with hockey prowess. They have to do with his right to be in the United States.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Are you familiar with what a visa is?
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Uhhhhhh, yup.
To rephrase: did he not make d-camp because he failed to fill out the proper paperwork? IE: was it his fault? IE: will the bag skates be punishment because he screwed up getting his visa, or as punishment because of crappy conditioning.
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
The visa issues probably lie with the Caps’ front office, though it’s hard to know. There may have been a mixup because his visa was for Canada (where he was palying fro the Remparts in Quebec), or it may be he got caught up in the Russian spy abrouhaha, which happened at about the same time.
Bag skates are for everyone at training camp, and they aren’t punishment, they are a way for the staff to evaluate players.
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Not necessarily. You can do everything right and USCIS can lose the paperwork. Happened to a friend of mine 3 times in the same application for a fiance visa and a green card.
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I heard you have a friend that had a problem 3 times.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
No, you read it because i never said it, I only wrote it.
/bustinballs
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Everybody does bag skates at rookie camp. He just didn’t survive his very well last year.
The US visa process absolutely blows and I wouldn’t be surprised if he did everything right and the Caps did everything right and it still got hung up in the mail because USCIS lost the paperwork (something that happened to one of my friends three times in the same applications).
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Didn’t survive well the year before, either.
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by ThePeerless on Aug 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
It will be intresting to see how the Bears do this year, Correct me if im wrong but they have lost
Alzner
Carlson
Geroix (sp)
Bourque
Nuvey
Wilson
I dont expect them to do what they did last year, But I wonder overall, I hope those Stingrays are ready!
I think they lost some other players too, but that’s the bulk of them. They could lose MP (I don’t think it’s likely though). They also lost Cash, their backup goalie – but he was replaced by Sabourin.
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I believe Osala was a Bear, until he got traded. But that was before the end of the season, so I don’t know if you are counting it.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I just noticed this about Osala, but after the trade to Carolina, he had 10 goals and 3 assists in some 16 games. He finished the year with 25 goals. That’s some Lee Stempniak sorta stuff right there.
Probably got PP time for Albany.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Yeah, that was my guess, until I went and looked at the AHL website and found a) it was only 9 goals, and b) eight of them were scored at even strength.
They don’t have TOI stats, right? He probably moved up a line or two in that org, at least.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
If folks are complaining about Fehr’s skating, then OO definitely ain’t the answer
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by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree. My point, apropos of the Clips, was more that there’s a pretty real possibility that Osala shows up on the left or right wing in Carolina for a number of games this year, especially if the players ahead of him in that position are Erik Cole, Chad LaRose, Sergei Samsonov, and Jiri Tlusty. LaRose has missed a ton of games over the past three seasons, Cole is also injury prone, and Tlusty’s still an unproven rookie.
I hope those Stingrays are ready!
Generally speaking, the Rays are not a feeder team for the Bears. Obviously there are exceptions, but I think the ECHL is mostly like a last chance for Caps prospects that haven’t panned out.
They have pulled players from the Rays up to Hershey – Holtby being the first to come to mind.
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Neuvy actually spent some time in 2008-2009 with the Stingrays as well. Sean Collins is another Stringray now with the Bears.
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Numbers game forced Holtby into the E. Not much else.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
True. It seemed like as soon as Varly and Neuvy got pulled up, Holtby went to Hershey. It seems like the Caps put young players there who would be a surplus in Hershey.
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There are a lot of prospects who start out in the ECHL just because they’re not quite ready to play at the AHL level, or they’re pushed down there by depth chart issues. Off the top of my head, players who have gone this route include Patrick McNeil, Andrew Gordon, Steve Pinizzotto, and Trevor Bruess.
Sometimes it’s just depth chart + where will the player get more playing time (1st line AHL vs 4th line NHL, for example)
by red army line on Aug 25, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Again…there are always exceptions. But generally speaking, it is just not a feeder team. More players get sent down than called up.
Hershey actively uses South Carolina for call-ups both of Washington contract players and Hershey contract players, as well as ECHL players not under AHL contract. Depending on the situation and type of player, Yingst also looks to other ECHL players when making call-ups (see Rome, for an example last season.)
(OT note to sk84fun_dc – Jon Keen is leaving Swift Current to call games for Kamloops. Wow.)
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The Bears have added players too.
Please do some more research before just jumping in and commandeering a discussion.
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Just wondering, who are all the players the Bears have added? I know about Sabourin, Greentree, Fahey, and Willsie, but I don’t hear many of the names if they aren’t signed to a Caps contract. I don’t know their roster enough to pick out who the new guys are.
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Former captain Nycholat, for one.
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Now that you mention it, I remember hearing about it. Does he have a Caps contract, or just with the Bears?
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New Signings and Additions:
D: Fahey, Nycholat, Stevenson
F: Greentree, Kashirsky, Kugryshev, Rechlicz, Willsie, plus Gustafsson counts in this category IMO
G: Sabourin (plus depth with Ford and DeMichiel)
2010-2011 Hershey Bears AHL Contracts (11 announced):
Jared DeMichiel, G
Todd Ford, G
Boyd Kane, F (AHL vet)
Nikita Kashirsky, F
Johan Kroll, D
Grant McNeill, F(/D)
Lawrence Nycholat, D (AHL vet)
Joel Rechlicz, F
Ashton Rome, F
Patrick Wellar, D
Dylan Yeo, D
2010-2011 SC Stingrays AHL Contracts (6 announced):
Jeff Caister, D
Trent Campbell, F
Grant Farrell, D
Zach Jones, D
Derek Keller, D
Rob Ricci, F
by sk84fun_dc on Aug 25, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
So I’d heard most of the signings, but forgot the two prospects being moved up. Stevenson, Kashirsky, and Rechlicz were the ones I hadn’t heard about. Thanks for the list!
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Some of these players will play most, if not all, of the season with South Carolina, but for the purposes of competing for roster spots heading into camp, they should be listed for now for discussion purposes.
Without going back and looking at the details, 99% sure DeMichiel signed an AHL/ECHL contract.
You want research and facts :)
2010-2011 Hershey Bears: Players Likely Available to Hershey as of Today
D (11):
Returning Players: Collins, Finley, Godfrey, Kroll, P. McNeill, Miskovic, Wellar, Yeo
New Signings: Fahey, Nycholat, Stevenson
Not in organization or Expected to be with Caps: Alzner, Carlson, Amadio, Helmer (plus Lewis)
F (18):
Returning Players: Aucoin, Beagle, Bouchard, Bruess, A Gordon, Hauswirth (no AHL games last season), Joudrey, Kane, G. McNeill, Perreault, Pinizzotto, Rome
New Signings: Greentree, Kashirsky, Kugryshev, Rechlicz, Willsie, plus Gustafsson (not really a new signing but not really a returning player either)
Not in organization or Expected to be with Caps: Bourque, Giroux, Wilson (some others like Eakin, Ferguson…are in a different category, IMO)
G (4):
Returning Players: Holtby
New Signings: Sabourin plus depth with Ford and DeMichiel
Not in organization or Expected to be with Caps: Bacashihua and Neuvirth
AHL vets – AHL vet rule (5): Aucoin, Fahey, Kane, Nycholat, Willsie (plus RFA AHL vet playing in KHL: Bourque)
- Not in organization or Expected to be with Caps. I am not listing every player that wore a Hershey jersey last season. I did list players who played in the playoffs and/or finished the season with Hershey spending a decent amount of time on the roster. Also, a non-contract player who played with Hershey and now is under contract with Hershey counts as a returning player for these purposes (see Rome and Kroll for examples.)
Of note, while most fans have certain players penciled in for the Caps NHL roster, it’s possible they could see playing time with Hershey depending on performance, injuries, trades, etc., especially those still waiver exempt.
At this point, it’s possible one of AGordon, Beagle, or Perreault or Pinizzotto (if he could make the transition to 2 refs and continue to improve his decision making) could start the season in the NHL. It’s possible none of them and possible more than 1 depending on other moves by the Caps as it’s only August, plus how Johansson does in camp and whether he stays or goes back to Sweden.
This list does not include 2 goalies, 7 dmen and 12 forwards under Washington contract projected at this time to be in the NHL, or Johansson projected for NHL or Sweden unless something changes (he is eligible to play in the AHL if all the parties agree on that move.) Obviously, trades and demotions are possible even among the players currently projected to be on the NHL roster both before and during camp, as well as during the season.
Some players from this list will be assigned to SC during or after camp.
(hopefully I didn’t forget to list someone)
by sk84fun_dc on Aug 25, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Without any research or facts, I predict Johansson plays 30+ games with Hershey this year. I bet the Caps tell him that if he does well there, he’ll probably make the NHL team at some point and he decides to play in PA.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard to predict as there is no way to know from indications to date whether he’d really consider reporting to Hershey over going back to Sweden.
As has been discussed before, there is the issue related to the timing of the Swedish season (and signings) relative to the NHL training camp/preseason, but I imagine with performance and injury issues, he’d find a spot in Sweden if that’s what happens. It’s also possible he/his agent already has something in place if he doesn’t make the NHL roster. Wait and see.
Wait and see.
But I’m an internet commenter. I’d rather give my baseless opinion! :)
You’re absolutely right. Nobody knows now what will happen. A lot depends on his training camp performance.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Hershey should field a competitive team this season even with the turnover, especially with the 2 goalies expected to be in net and the prospects, plus Aucoin and some others up front and the veteran D they brought in this summer. Depending on other signings, players like Bouchard will have an opportunity for more PP time and as has been noted, one would expect Patrick McNeill to see tougher and more minutes on a consistent basis, etc.
Just for fun….something I pulled together earlier this summer, don’t recall if I posted in a thread here or not, 2005-06 Calder Cup winning team to 2006-07 team that lost in the finals…of guys that played at least 5 games in the playoffs in 05-06…for ’06-07 season
Brooks Laich and Boyd Gordon graduated to the NHL
(and Beech and Nycholat (partial and then traded) for the ’06-07 season)
Wotton signed with Isles/Bridgeport
Kane went back to the Philly org.
Mink went to SJS/Worcester
Aulin moved on
Forbes, Wilde, Fortin, and Cutta went to play in Europe
On both playoff teams: Klepis, plus Cassivi, Fleischmann, Green, Schultz, Steckel, Arsene, Robitaille, Tenute, Sloan and Bourque (the last 2 didn’t play much in 06), Engelland (didn’t play much in 06 and left after 07 to sign NHL contract with Pens)
Schedules
So the AHL schedule should be released around 4pm today!
and I just read that the NHL national tv schedule should be released sometime today.
I love Walton’s explanation that the AHL schedule is late because of LeBron.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
YAY! double yay!
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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Nice. Looking at the Caps’ Sunday schedule, anyone care to bet on which games get shown on NBC? I only looked after January 1, because the NHL on NBC doesn’t start until after the end of football season.
1/16: OTT – not a chance
2/6 (Super Bowl Sunday): PIT – no-brainer
2/20: @BUF – doubt it
3/6: @FLA – not a chance
3/13: CHI – they just might, depends on what their other options are
We might get away with just one NBC game. Suits me, getting to the VC before noon is a pain.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Chicago would seem to be pretty likely – there wouldn’t be very many bigger matchups. But the less Sunday NBC games the better. I don’t think anyone likes that early start time.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
It depends on what else is going on that Sunday, but true that CHI would be a big draw, and certainly the CHI/WAS matchup last year didn’t disappoint from a hockey perspective.
I don’t see NBC passing up a WAS/PIT matchup on Super Bowl Sunday, though. There’s a tinfoil-hatted part of me that wonders if NBC asked the NHL for that matchup.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
No need for tinfoil hat. Leagues do their schedules in conjunction with their TV partners.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Those two would seem to be the most likely out of the five. I didn’t mention the PIT/WAS game because I totally agree with you that it’s a no-brainer. And how much screaming do you think there will be from fans of other teams about that? Not that I blame them.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
Can’t blame them, but my counter to that is “look at it from our perspective, we have to drag ourselves downtown by noon on Super Bowl Sunday. You think it’s fun for us?”
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Yeah, that is going to suck just a little. Not that many of us who have a chance will miss it.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
That counter is weak with me, much less with the league or a TV network.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, fan bitching is usually in the nature of “you guys get all the goodies” – the counter is “no we don’t, NBC’s annoying”.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I find myself on neither side of that argument.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it’s not like any of us are going to care about the Super Bowl anyway.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
I didn’t say I don’t want them to win, just that I don’t expect it. And apologies if I’ve offended a Ravens fan, I care even less about them. I tend to tune out the Ravens news.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
There’s a football team in Baltimore?
Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
This photo needs two titles
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
At first glance, I read a different word than “titles”
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Aug 25, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
A pint and a bowl made for a colorful college experience, that much I can vouch for.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Aug 25, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
how great 2011 would be with a cup and a bowl tho
No chance the Redskins are going to win the Super Bowl anytime soon. Baltimore winning the Super Bowl has no relevance on DC.
/flame on.
easy killer not all caps fans are skins fans..or even footbal fans…or Ravens fans for that matter…I am speaking for my personal nirvana.
But that doesn’t change the fact that a Baltimore Super Bowl victory has no effect on Washington DC other than a city to the north having a strong football team.
There’s a lot of Caps fans who live up towards Baltimore. So it matters to many of us.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
by timmyv38 on Aug 25, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt it’s too much screaming from the rest of the league. There’s not a whole lot to recommend the NBC games from an org/player standpoint.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I was mainly referring to the constant complaints about Crosby/Ovie being pushed all the time.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
Fans of other teams will no doubt bitch about the Crosby/AO love-fest, I agree.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
And fans of the Pens and Caps agree with them. You’d think it was a one on one game of horse the way the NBC folks cover those games.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
the best part of Caps-Pens games on NBC is Steinberg methodically ripping apart Milbury on Monday.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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After a quick review and pulling some information together:
More on the NHL national TV schedule and the Caps for U.S. viewers:
NBC (4 games scheduled)
Jan 1 at PITTSBURGH (Winter Classic)
Feb 6 vs PITTSBURGH (SuperBowl Sunday)
Feb 20 at BUFFALO
Mar 13 vs CHICAGO
Versus (11 games scheduled – 5 home/6 away) (* indicates VERSUS exclusive; 9 of 11 are exclusives)
Wed Oct 13, 2010 vs NY ISLANDERS*
Tue Oct 19, 2010 vs BOSTON*
Tue Nov 9, 2010 at NY RANGERS*
Tue Dec 21, 2010 vs NEW JERSEY*
Mon Jan 24, 2011 vs NY RANGERS*
Mon Feb 14, 2011 at PHOENIX*
Mon Feb 21, 2011 at PITTSBURGH*
Mon Mar 7, 2011 at TAMPA BAY*
Wed Mar 16, 2011 at DETROIT
Tue Mar 22, 2011 at PHILADELPHIA*
Thu Mar 31, 2011 vs COLUMBUS
Also, “More information on the dates and times of the NHL Network U.S. 2010-11 schedule will be released in the near future.”
How about now?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Lohan’s still in rehab, so not yet.
"The most important thing - to get to the playoffs and move on." Evgeny Kuznetsov
by Carl Putnam on Aug 25, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was funnier yesterday when it was the Penguins
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, you’re right.
Bored. Lame joke.
I’d seminrocks it if I could.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Oh, don’t get me wrong — I thought it was funny. but the timing on yesterday’s bet was great
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
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Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that before he played Elvis: The Dying Years?
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Aug 25, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmmmmmmmitchell.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
by jordanDC on Aug 25, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wocka joo wocka joo wocka joo wocka joo wocka joo
Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
The national tv schedule is out: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=536384
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by cobracg on Aug 25, 2010 2:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
At least 12 Caps games on nationals TV:
Bruins, Blackhawks, Rangers, Pens and Caps will each have 11 games on Versus. Senators, Panthers and Oilers will have 0.
-@DaveLozo
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by cobracg on Aug 25, 2010 2:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Caps (and Pens) will get at least 2 NBC. Winter Classic and then Superbowl Sunday
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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From Kypreos
I’m told clubs have been notified they are out of Mitchell race. Look for LA Kings to announce Willie Mitchell soon on a multi year deal.
Move along.
"I think he is just a joy to watch, he plays every game like there's not going to be one next week for him, like someone's going to take it away from him next game."
Doesn’t make any sense to me. With Doughty, Scud, Greene, Surf Guitarist and now Mitchell locked down for 2 or more years, how are Teubert or Hickey ever going to crack the lineup?
I wonder if the Caps could trade for Scud or Green
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
just when we stop with the Morrison/Morrisonnnnnnnnn confusion (and Zimmerman/Zimmermannnnnnn confusion is about to overtake Nats Park!), you want us to try and deal with Green/Greeneeeeeeee? And how do you expect poor Mike Green to know which locker and jersey and equipment is his, huh? English isn’t exactly is strongest subject!
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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Easy, just label one FAT and the other SLOW.
Jokes, people.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
just when we stop with the Morrison/Morrisonnnnnnnnn confusion (and Zimmerman/Zimmermannnnnnn confusion is about to overtake Nats Park!), you want us to try and deal with Green/Greeneeeeeeee?
:: turning down the volume on CSN broadcasts ::
You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!
Martinez ain’t a bad defenseman either.
Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kypreos doesn’t have the greatest track record on these things, but I honestly think that the Kings make the most sense.
especially if a multi year contract is involved.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Aug 25, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Via the Kings twitter page:
Breaking News…The LA Kings have reached a verbal agreement with D Willie Mitchell. More news to come on LAKings.com.
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Hey that usually begins when I hit the beach at Spring Break!
Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
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Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 25, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Gotta Rec a DS9 image… my inner nerd says so.
Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy
by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 25, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
@NHLSourcesSay says the deal is 2 years, 3.25 mil per year.
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Assuming the Caps would have had to give significantly more to get him East, I’m OK with them not outbidding the Kings
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I can’t see spending more than that on a position that isn’t our greatest area of need.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 25, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Willie. I wouldn’t like the Caps offering him that much.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Aug 25, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Zoinks. That’s a pretty big chunk. No way the Caps could have outbid that number.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
That’s my line, dude.
I like Peerless’ view – I care more about the defensive lineup on April 1 then Oct 1.
Although…now the D has to come through trade (I’m guessing waivers won’t let a nice guy slip through).
I’m more about the term. It sounds penny pinching, but I wouldn’t mind overpaying a bit for this year? 2011-2012 though? Ouch from a Caps perspective.
by red army line on Aug 26, 2010 6:31 AM EDT up reply actions
LA Kings Insider which is linked to on the Kings homepage says 3.5 per year for 2 years.
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LA Kings reportedly sign Mitchel for 2 years a 3.5 mil a piece.
Maybe now we can see Belanger’s return officially and all that it entails.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
Nate Ewell, keeping it in perspective:
We missed out on signing a guy today, but on the bright side our media guide bios are still done.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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Dmitry Chesnokov says the Varly has started blogging in Russian. The power on Andrew Gordon!
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http://tampabay.sbnation.com/2010/8/25/1637504/pro-athletes-twitter-trouble
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Silly goalie, Arlington isn’t Washington.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Hershey Schedule out now
http://www.hersheybears.com/detail.php?id=3283
Depressingly few games @ Norfolk :(
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
any trips to Charlotte are going to be scheduled around Bears games. that’s the only way I can endure going.
Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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The matrix has been out since mid-July. FWIW, 4 seems like plenty of road games in one place, but I understand for people in that area they’d like more.
The Dec 30th game in Pittsburgh will be interesting, but a bit challenging to coordinate travel from out of town for 12/30 and 1/1. Too much downtime in Pittsburgh during the holidays.
The Feb 4th game in Atlantic City as announced the other day is interesting, too.
4 seems like plenty of road games in one place
They play in Norfolk only twice, however.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
reply fail first try, here’s the post again
No, they play in Norfolk 4 times.
Feb 15 (Tue)
Mar 2 (Wed)
Apr 1 (Fri)
Apr 2 (Sat)
or maybe the April Fools game is just that :)
ctrl+f failure on my part.
Acceptable number of games @ Norfolk!
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Mitchell Contract Buy or Sell?
And as the LA Times’ Helene Elliott reports, the Kings were the only team to offer Mitchell more than a one-year deal, which makes this move by GM Dean Lombardi a risky one — especially at $3.5 million a season — but one that could provide a high reward should he prove healthy over the term. (Emphasis mine)
It seems to me that Mitchell pretty much has to stay healthy and perform up to his 08-09 peak for this contract to really be worth it. He’s getting Poti money, and Poti’s not exactly a bargain. They’re both injury prone, while Mitchell is better defensively and Poti is better offensively.
Anyhow, Buy or Sell on Mitchell’s contract being a high-reward move if he stays healthy?
Personally, I sell. . .
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
I think you nailed it. I think this contract is just as inflated as the ones given out on July 1, if not moreso due to the concussion risk. The term is shorter, but the age justifies that. If Mitchell stays healthy and there is no dropoff, he’s worth that in today’s market, but those are big "if"s.
Sorry, I contradicted myself a little there. I view today’s market as inflated, hence this one being inflated but Mitchell “probably being worth it” if he stays healthy and there’s no decline.
I think we’re in agreement, then. Basically, if he performs to the best of his abilities and plays almost all 82 games each season, then the contract is just about worth it. I put the probability of that at somewhere between 10 and 20% though. Basically, I think this deal has an 80-90% chance of not being worth it, and about a 10% chance of being worth it, and a Zero% chance of being a “high-reward” move, particularly given LA’s defensive depth.
This one is a headscratcher.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
Poti’s 3.5 per year.
I don’t think it’s that unlikely that Mitchell gives them more the next 2 years than Poti gave the Caps the last 2. I don’t think it’s quite 50%, but I think it’s better than 20%.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Aug 25, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m pretty sure that the Caps are a better off spending 3.5 mil on Willie MItchell than the Kings are and that the Kings would have been better off signing Kovalchuk than the Caps would have been. Different areas of weakness, different marginal rates of return.
The Mitchell deal is obviously less damaging to the Kings than Kovalchuk would have been to the Caps, but it’s still adding at a position of strength and leaving a position of weakness unattended. Their lineup isn’t going to benefit that much from adding another defense in Mitchell’s mold.
Selling for sure.
"Essentially, all models are wrong, but some are useful" George E.P. Box
by Knee high to a duck on Aug 25, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
but it’s still adding at a position of strength and leaving a position of weakness unattended
It’s the Vinny Cerrato Rule: Add more strength to a strength while not addressing a weakness. (Vinny’s justification on talk radio this week for signing Fat Albert while admitting that the offense was going to struggle.)
Not a Redskins fan, but can’t ignore the drama.
I believe in JC.
I’m going with buy.
Yes its a risky contract,but its also risky going into the season with Sloan/Erksine as a 6D.
I’m hoping the Caps find another card to play this offseason as$ 3.5 per might seem a bargain compared to what they give up at the trade deadline to shore up the D.
I’ll channel Peerless’ thoughts from earlier and counter that it’s not risky to begin the season with Erskine in the lineup. If Erskine’s still in the lineup come April…now, that’s risky.
by mechanicsville on Aug 25, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I’m agreeing with that.
The caps have had this same defensive need the past two trade deadlines and weren’t able to solve it in april.
For people saying $3.5 is too high, what price might the caps have to pay at the deadline? i’d prefer to gamble with potential cash overpayment now than risk trade deadline bidding wars involving prized prospects.
Ixn’g waiting till april is just as risky a proposition?
VC painting stairs red?
I like it.
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Southeast Standings
| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Florida
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50 | 24 | 15 | 11 | 59 |
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Washington
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51 | 27 | 20 | 4 | 58 |
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Winnipeg
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53 | 24 | 23 | 6 | 54 |
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Tampa Bay
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50 | 22 | 23 | 5 | 49 |
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Carolina
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53 | 19 | 25 | 9 | 47 |
(updated 2.4.2012 at 6:07 PM EST)
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