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Your savory breakfast links:

  • Boyd Gordon's hope for 2010-11 is that the nagging injury that plagued him last season won't be back. [Masisak]
  • Bruce Boudreau sticks with a variation of "we ran into a hot goalie"... [NHL.com]
  • ... and isn't too keen on "hybrid icing." [NHL.com]
  • Washington, D.C.: Hockey Hotbed. [FanHouse]
  • Willie Mitchell non-update update... [CI]
  • ... and another "he'd be a great fit here" post. [Ravings of a Rink Rebel]
  • You knew the Young Guns would rate highly on fantasy draft boards (how about all in the top 12?), but guess who's fifth and where he ranks. [ESPN]
  • Where in the world is Karl Alzner? [Overtime w/ Bill Rohland]
  • Be wary, Penguins... Caps fans are everywhere. [Alex Ovetjkin]
  • Is it more appropriate to discuss "top nine" than "top six" forwards? It certainly is in D.C. [Copper & Blue]
  • "Brendan Morrison just turned 35. He has a lot of hockey left in him. He does not need to go to Europe to play." Alrighty then. [Vancouver Sun]
  • Catching up with Development Camp invitee Cameron Burt. [Love the Game]
  • Finally, happy 45th birthday to David (A.) Jensen, former member of the "Diaper Line," whom the Caps acquired from Hartford in exchange for current assistant coach Dean Evason and Peter Sidorkiewicz.

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I was irked with Bruce when I saw his comments on icing. The refs blow calls all the time, that’s nothing new. The idea here is to reduce injuries. If it involves an angry coach once in a while after a close call, that’s a pretty small price to pay to avoid future Pat Peakes.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Aug 19, 2010 7:16 AM EDT reply actions  

What I read into Boudreau’s comments was that there were too many moving parts going into the proposed icing call. One thing I think is a certainty. If the hybrid was adopted, no-touch icing will be the rule inside of three years. They’d never go back to the old rule; players would be defenseless after having played the “passive” icing for a few seasons, and I do think Boudreau’s concerns have some merit. Perhaps there will be more decisions being put in the eyes of the linesman.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 7:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

If concerns about the ability of refs to make calls are so significant, the league should just go with no-touch icing off the bat. Whether hybrid or full no-touch, this rule change is overdue.

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by Ninjak on Aug 19, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

We talked about this in the Question of the Day a while ago, but I agree with Gabby here. I don’t think that many NHLers per year are actually injured trying to ice/wash out a puck. And it makes from some game-changing exciting plays when a team can wash it out. And “hybrid icing” has far too many subjective variables that can get screwed up. Just because refs screw up other calls doesn’t mean we need to make new rules for them to screw up.

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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 19, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a “low probability/high risk” event. A Pat Peake-like injury doesn’t happen often, or even every year, but it is career-threatening, if not career ending.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Boudreau’s take seems well-thought out and nuanced to me. Sounds like he’d accept no-touch, but that he thinks hybrid is a really bad idea because of all the boundry cases. In other words, better to have a permanent green light or red light — but putting in a light that is sometimes green, sometimes yellow, and sometimes red seems too confusing and hard to implement.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, like many NHL coaches, he’s been on the receiving end of when refs are forced to make judgment calls on the fly. I would suspect that most coaches would prefer a hard-and-fast rule to one that adds yet something else to refs’ plates.

by Forsch31 on Aug 19, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I every play fantasy hockey (or any other sport for that matter), but I’d feel pretty comfortable taking Grandpa Slippers for $8 at #114.

by HateOffSeason on Aug 19, 2010 7:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Eric Fehr at $0 at 222? The 135th-ranked forward?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

As always, Peerless, your dedication and thoroughness is awe inspiring. After blearily looking at the list to even find the Caps 5th player on the list, I was more than ready to quite the exercise at Knuble. You astound and amaze to make your way all the way to 222 this early in the morning.

by HateOffSeason on Aug 19, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

You haven’t gotten down to 299 yet.

Hasta siempre Jaime.

by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nearly Mr. Irrelevant…

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, you made me look. Well, I have to agree with Poti for $0, but are there 12 Caps ahead of him on the list? If not, then the whole darn list must be invalid since we seem to be rating Poti at number 13 on our “Ranking the Capitals” exercise.

by HateOffSeason on Aug 19, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree.

Wait, no – “Ranking the Capitals” has absolutely nothing to do with a guy’s value in a 2010-11 auction-style fantasy draft. Nevermind.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

What I don’t know (ok, was too lazy to look up) is what the fantasy criteria are. Depending on how you score fantasy players, some players will do better than others, and vice versa.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had to recheck (I counted fewer), then I saw Carlson in there. Using iws’s FanPost as gospel truth for next year, I’d be just fine with Carlson getting 28 points.

Hasta siempre Jaime.

by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I was forced to bet, I think I’d take the under.

Mike Green, for example, went from 3 points in 22 games in his first season to 12 in 70 his second. Yes, Carlson is further along than Green was. Yes, this Caps team gives a guy more opportunities to point than those Hanlon-restrained squads. But those teams also didn’t have a Mike Green ahead of Mike Green (huh?).

28 points is nothing to sneeze at for a rook D who won’t get top PP TOI, as iw points out. For a tiny bit of perspective, here’s the full list of Caps’ D’s who have ever had 28 or more points in either of his first two NHL seasons:

Robert Picard 1978-79 65
Darren Veitch 1981-82 53
Scott Stevens 1983-84 45
Sergei Gonchar 1995-96 41
Robert Picard 1977-78 37
Leif Svensson 1978-79 31

What’s interesting about that “28” number is that if you pro-rate Carlson’s scoring from last year (10 points in 29 games) over an 82-game season, that’s the exact number you get.

So would it surprise me if he tops 28 points? Not at all. But, as iw was wise to point out, let’s temper our expectations a bit.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Leif Svensson, we hardly knew ye.

(“Where have you gone, Leif Svensson/A nation turns its lonely eyes to you” doesn’t have the same poetic rhythm.)

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most. Swedish. Name. Ever.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

More than Hakan Loob?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Magnus ver Magnusson?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Magnus ver Magnusson and Leif Svensson both have that Scandinavian ring to it. Leif, of course, was the first name of the Viking explorer who discovered America before Columbus.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or my favorite, Per Djoos?

Pretty hard to beat Magnus ver Magnusson in a Swedish-off (or in a feat of strength).

by grapejoos on Aug 19, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention, JC probably won’t be getting much power play time.

by Ginga on Aug 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

….except you did mention it.

by Ginga on Aug 19, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what “find” is for in Firefox…. all the “Was” guys.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that next to Poti and I thought it meant he “was” a viable fantasy option a few years ago.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ctrl F is your friend ;)

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

(Nice sig)

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

We really need more occasions to run pictures of Boyd Gordon here at the Rink. Just sayin’.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 7:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought that the bearded close-up of Gordo might please some.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

It certainly pretties up the Clips.

John Carlson - Glory follows him.

by boutros23 on Aug 19, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. It’s lovely.

(And by “some” JP is, of course, including himself. And maybe Pepper. Mancrushes ahoy!)

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel hungry for muffins…

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gordo looks hungry for the puck in that picture.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon does have nice hair. While he’s never been a person to favor wearing his hair long, he does have ample hair, of an attractive dark brown color.

(There, now I’m being a puck bunny!)

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looking back on it now, I can’t think of any bigger reason for losing to Montreal than a power play that pooped the bed. A #1-ranked PP that ran at 25.2% in the regular season going 1-for-33 in the playoffs is a pretty huge kink in the armor to me. Our PP shouldn’t be going 1-for-33 in the playoffs, ever. Regardless of the opposing goaltender’s temperature.

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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 19, 2010 7:42 AM EDT reply actions  

A Tale of Two Teams…

Team 1:

0-4
0-3
0-7
1-5
0-5
0-6
0-3

Team 2:

0-2
0-4
1-5
3-5
0-2
2-4

Team 1 is the Caps on the power play in the Montreal series (1-33); Team 2 is Hershey in the AHL finals against Texas (6-22, and 6-16 in Games 3-6, all of which they won after dropping the first two in which they were 0-6 on the PP).

One team adjusted, and won.

One team didn’t adjust (the flip side of “it was Halak”), and lost.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

The way I’m remembering it (and I can be way off), the two games Texas won against Hershey weren’t stolen by their goalie, although he was pretty good. The Texas defense looked pretty good those games, and even into game three, keeping the Bears from getting good position in the offensive zone. Still, they figured it out and adjusted.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

There were a few differences. Game 1 in Hershey was only the seventh hockey game the Bears had played in the previous 39 days, they were coming off an eleven day layover, and Andrew Gordon was just returning from his knee injury (during which time the Bears’ PP was poo-poo.) In Game Two, the Bears were able to score twice on Matt Climie, then AG10 scored late to take the game to OT at three apiece (and the Bears took a lot of games to OT throughout the playoffs.) I’ve managed to block out how Texas got the game winner, as I was sitting there largely stunned.

The major difference was Captain Helmer, who sought the advice of Ray Bourque, which resulted in the team’s players-only meeting in Austin and a noticeable change in focus when the hit the ice for Game Three.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, the current Caps’ captain could not be an individual more different than Bryan Helmer.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

One team didn’t adjust (the flip side of "it was Halak"), and lost.

I’m not sure that’s completely fair. Over the course of those seven games, we saw AO on the point, the half-boards and in front on the PP, for example. Bruce may not have made the right adjustments, and those that he did make were more personnel-related than strategic (as are most of his adjustments, generally, and he can be fairly questioned about the one personnel move he didn’t make – sitting an ineffective Green), but I don’t think he just sat there trotting the same five guys out there to go to the same spots and do the same things.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So what do you think would’ve been the solution for the power play?

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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Carlson instead of Green, AO in front.

Not so much a solution as the spark, I think.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree on putting Ovechkin in front.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

BB did it against Philly, didn’t he?

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think putting Knuble on for Laich would have helped. The entire series, Laich was doing a very poor job of getting to the front of the net.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 19, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

So was the puck.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

A player in front of the net might have given some of those long shots that got through the defense a chance to go in. Halak had far too much time to see them and no one to obstruct his view.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

We really need some new games to talk about already. Rookie camp can’t open soon enough.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 19, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

So true.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Game 7 against the Penguins, now that one sucked.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That one? Those three!

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 19, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

See the Stars Take On Ovechkin & the Capitals! 3 Game Plans Start at Just $90!

E-mail received this afternoon from the Dallas Stars trying to tempt purchases.

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by Icebat on Aug 19, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, you have to go to Dallas to take advantage of that offer.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think I read on BtN that the Caps were actually getting more rebound chances than the regular season, on average.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Link

(although extra screens and such may have not been there)

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but there’s a lot that the stats don’t show (there’s a difference between an unmolested shot and one with Hal Gill draped over you, etc.), and especially taken in aggregate they don’t tell much of the story. Alex Ovechkin had a lot of points in that series… but not in the last three games. So you could go with “AO had a great series,” but I’ll stick with “AO had an uneven series.”

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Putting Carlson on PP was one of my suggestions during the playoffs.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that a bit more control on the half-boards than the points could have been effective – might have opened up the points a bit more for one-timers (shots weren’t getting through from the point when they were just holding it and playing catch up there), and the back-door passes.

Also, when it was obvious that Green couldn’t shoot, I’d have given Corvo and/or Carlson minutes.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have given Corvo minutes.

It’s a shame I’ll probably never hear that sentence from you ever again!

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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 19, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Desperate times call for desperate measures. And since they were minutes that would be spent (presumably) very far away from Varly, I’d have held my nose and hoped.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was pretty annoyed when it became clear to everyone that something was wrong with Green and that he simply WOULD NOT SHOOT that BB didn’t go to Corvo. He may have been an adventure in his own end, but the guy can definitely QB a powerplay and he can sure as shit shoot the puck.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green had probably fully recovered from the bad wrist (?) that he had gotten late in the season. Or what ever it was that he was “healthy” scratched for 2 games in a row. Somehow I believed the “healthy” scratch of green for 2 consecutive games as much as I believe the sales pitches for the proverbial bridge in Brooklyn. I figured something was wrong with Green. I can believe a one day “healthy” scratch to rest up but not 2 days.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

#NeedsMoreFehr

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Knuble on PP #1.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or a crazy possibility I came up with.

Have one PP unit with our best guys in that department other than Ovi. (Don’t laugh! It would, hopefully, get them to work as a team.)

Have Ovi with the second unit. (That would at least be incentive to use the 2nd unit.)

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it would be fair to blame Boudreau alone for this, the players didn’t seem to have the constitution to pay a price to “get greasy” in the same fashion Hershey did. Both teams got pushed outside on their own power plays in the first two games of their respective series, but the change in Hershey’s game was stunning in games 3-6. The Caps, meanwhile, still didn’t seem to compete at Montreal’s level in front of the Canadiens’ net. As if somehow, pucks would just start going in. All of them bear responsibility for that outcome.

But what seems odd just looking at the power play shots on goal in that series is, first, that the Caps were 1-for-61 (1.6%). Of those 61 shots, 42 were taken by forwards, which isn’t surprising. But the guys who would be expected to do the in-close work (Mike Knuble, Brooks Laich, and Eric Fehr, who had 9:22 of PP ice time among them per game) had a total of 14 shots in seven games. And one of those games comes leaping off the page — in Game 6 the Caps had 18 power play shots on goal, two from the in-close guys. Bombs away from the outside isn’t going to test a goalie much, even when he’s killing penalties.

Although I’d have to look at shot charts, the first thing that comes to mind here was they weren’t getting much in terms of shots from in close, rebounds or otherwise. Montreal collapsed their defense, and the Caps had no answer for it, either from the bench or on the ice.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh. I actually thought they were having trouble getting quality shots through from the outside and that what they really could have used was something to pack MTL in a bit to free up point shots a bit more. IMO, the shots weren’t coming from inside because the pucks weren’t getting there from outside.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Both the players and coaches deserve blame. Neither adjusted to what was right in front of their face. As J.P. knows, the issue I have is that while most of the players who commented to the press took blame and didn’t make excuses, all we’ve heard from BB since the series ended is “Halak”.

As for the shots, I totally agree with J.P> My recollection is that guys continued to try to bomb away from the outside even if they had no shooting lane. It’s not like MTL trying to block every shot was a secret by game 5. Knuble couldn’t do what he was brought in to do because the puck never got near him.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the “otherwise” part (and where the players bear a share of the responsibility). Montreal had 182 blocked shots in the series. If the Canadiens had not played another playoff game after the first round, that number still would have ranked sixth in the playoffs.

Some things you need to figure out on the field or on the ice, based on your experience and willingness to compete. The Caps just didn’t figure it out.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

One guy who deserves special attention in my mind is Brooks Laich. Was he in the “bakery?” That’s a guy who needed to pay more of the price to screen the goalie and muck around.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Laich’s was an odd series. He had 21 shots on goal for the seven games, consistent on a per-game basis with his regular season SOG/game (2.85). But he had seven shots in three wins, 14 in four losses. He had 11 shots on goal (one goal) in games 5 and 6, both losses.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

To my eyes, he was floating and shooting too much, and not putting his haunches in Halak’s face enough.

Knuble can’t be the only guy who knows how to go to the crease.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Knuble was the flip side… 23 shots on goal for the series, 16 of them in Games 1-4 (when the Caps went up 3-1). Seven shots in the last three games.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s a video of Nicky’s playoff hat trick. Watch it once to marvel at Mean Lars’ growth as a wicked scorer, then watch it again and pay attention to maestro Mike Knuble working the crease. (Then watch it a third time to see a selfish, angry Ovechkin pouting and sulking because Nicky wouldn’t let him score.)

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also notice how much Halak complains after every one of those goals.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

But was his hand shaking?

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

My hand totally shook yesterday when I was trying to squeeze jelly out of the jelly container. Whoever came up with that shaking hand thing is a dumb bastard.

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by jordanDC on Aug 19, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you’re calling Ovi a dumb b******

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that was the joke.

by MikeBrady on Aug 19, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

In an angry “you damn kids get off my lawn” sort of way.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

that reference made me think of another area where Brice and the boys could improve: shut up, shuttin’ up.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

er, Bruce

"Those things happen in sport," McPhee said. "It's not like it's anything chronic."

by bigonetimer on Aug 19, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Capitals launched so many shots towards the goal that it seemed like they couldn’t get ’em through, like you said.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

One team adjusted, and won.
One team didn’t adjust (the flip side of "it was Halak"), and lost.

And one team was playing against highly-skilled NHL players, coached by long-standing NHL coaches and the other team was opposed by AHL lifers and young, wet-behind-the-ears players and a still-learning AHL coach. Comparing the two situations is like apples and oranges.

by b.orr4 on Aug 19, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the team playing “AHL Lifers” at least has the culture in the room to actually finish an opponent even after they’ve had their nose bloodied, regardless of the coach.

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

And French’s ability to make adjustments in series.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was struck by French’s interview after the loss in Game 2 of the series. He was obviously angry, which is to be expected, but he also outlined a strategy that the team hadn’t executed during the game, commented on some of the mistakes they’d made, and said “if they want to continue making those mistakes, Texas will get to four wins before we will.”

I would like to see the Caps play like they’ve heard (and taken to heart) something along those lines, and I don’t see it happening if BB’s line continues to be “we ran into [the latest item on the excuse list]”

by miseenjeu on Aug 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Bears were lucky that they lost their first two.

Maybe it was bad luck that the Caps got to 3-1.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe it was bad luck that the Caps got to 3-1.

I’ll admit, that kind of thing has crossed my mind – but god help us if that actually becomes our mindset, that the only way this team can win is if they fall behind or finish lower in the standings. This team needs to learn how to take an advantageous position and then take advantage of it.

(Kind of a mini-rant that’s been on my mind lately, not really directed at you, Gouldie…)

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wasn’t it the Montreal media that suggested the same thing? Get the Caps on the advantage and, odds are, they’ll blow it.

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by CapitalCentre on Aug 19, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The fact that the strategy worked makes me want to bang my head against a wall.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should the Caps start taking lessons from the New York Yankees on how to exploit having the advantage?

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what you mean…the 3-0 debacle?

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume you’re referring to the infamous series that they blew to the Red Sox in 2004. (It was not a result I typically associate with the Yankees but happy to have seen it happen.)

I was thinking about last year’s Yankees who were successful at winning the World Series.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for the back-up.

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by CapitalCentre on Aug 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Texas wasn’t playing an NHL team; The last time I looked, Hershey is also an AHL team, composed of AHL lifers, NHL prospects, and a first-year head coach. Granted, they scored the most wins and points during the 09-10 season (kinda like the NHL team we all know well), but still an AHL team.

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by bagace on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

“If you can’t score, you can’t score. It happens and you can’t change a thing.

Gee, very encouraging quote there, Coach.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still trying to figure out what many want him to say publicly. If Bruce comes out and says " You know, after looking at the video I realized I suck as a coach. The players are gutless, choking dogs. Ovi’s a terrible leader, Semin is a worthless putz and RJ Umberger was right, we’re never going to win a Cup with these guys" does that really serve any purpose. Of course, I’m exaggerating but Boudreau is trying to do what any coach does, say what’s done is done and it’s time to worry about the next game. He and McPhee aren’t idiots. In private, I’m sure they gone over every reason why the team failed just as we have. Ripping himself, his GM, his coaches and his players to the Washington Post just seems to serve no real purpose other than to appease the fans who want an admission of guilt.

by b.orr4 on Aug 19, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

Exactly. It’s not just one quote now that annoys me. Ever since the loss he’s said nothing other than “well we hit a hot goalie and there isn’t anything we could do”. You can acknowledge that you weren’t able to adjust and do what needed to be done without completely ripping yourself or your team. Every other coach seems to be able to do it and not constantly make excuses.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I keep looking for evidence of critical thinking.

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by oldemystix on Aug 19, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you read his book, Bruce is pretty honest about his shortcomings and failures. I agree with Mr. Orr that throwing his team (or even himself) under the bus in the pages of the Washington Post would be unproductive.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I largely agree, but I’d like to see him accept some responsibility here, even if it has nothing to do with tactics, strategy or substance. “We lost, I’m the coach, and the buck stops at me” would go a long way with people, I think.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it would. People are just looking for something to pick on, I think. Some people just are never satisfied.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 19, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

If the Caps had lost to a superior squad and the coaching staff had done what they could then no one would be worried minus the outliers who are truly never satisfied. That isn’t the case here.

I’m someone who has been vehemently unhappy with how the organization handled the series loss. This is an issue of taking responsibility and holding oneself accountable. I’m not looking for Gabby to give the laundry list of reasons. I’m looking for him to own his part in the series loss. That could be achieved in a sentence. It’s even more important in my mind to come from the coach because if he/she accepts some of the blame it takes some of the external pressure off of their players.

In addition, from a PR standpoint the smart thing to do is accept blame. See what happened to Green immediately after the series and then after he came and met the press. Once you take ownership for your part it makes it harder for the press to criticize and gains you a bit more respect.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Bingo – the buck stops here.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly what I was looking for K_C.

Give ’em Hell J.P.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t give ‘em hell – I tell ’em the truth and they think it’s hell.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe your initials should be J.S.P.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

We ran into a hot goalie,but we also didn’t do some of the things we needed to do to win the series. The coaching staff and I are reviewing the series to make sure that we make the necessary adjustments for the future.

I like that a lot better. Hot goalie card is one notch above blaming refs. I’m sick to death of it and I don’t want to hear it from a coach or players ever again.

As for what BB really did say, I’m already bracing myself for another playoff season of excuses and failure.

/anger.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hot goalie card certainly doesn’t override the other things that BB and the players did poorly, but it is undeniable that the Caps dominated the Habs and ran into a hot goalie. The fact that there were adjustments they could have made to overcome this doesn’t mean it isn’t true.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what kills a hot goalie? Hot skaters. To imply that the there is no way the Caps could have won either game 5, 6 or 7 because Halak was simply unbeatable, is a fallacy in my opinion. Halak played very well, as he is paid to do.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

To imply that the there is no way the Caps could have won either game 5, 6 or 7 because Halak was simply unbeatable, is a fallacy in my opinion.

I’m fairly certain that is not at all what I’m saying.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m fairly certain that is what BB is saying.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I’m fairly certain that is why K_C is adjusting what BB did say to what he wishes BB had said.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I simply took it a step further. WTH people.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. The hot goalie card, in this circumstance, is fair, because it’s true. Halak played well, the Caps were unlucky, and they win that series most times. That said, there’s always luck and all you can do is do everything in your power to ensure your odds are the best the can be even if everything you don’t control goes against you. I don’t think the Capitals did that, and that’s the problem.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they did enough to make their odds of winning the series much better than 50%. They could have pushed the odds even further, but in the end, what actually happened really was very improbable.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If it was revealed that Boudreau was saying the same line to his players; that it wasn’t there fault, that they just hit a hot goalie, then I would be upset. Very upset. I’m just operating under the belief that like us, they know what went wrong and why and are taking steps to correct it. Bruce’s got to know that fixing what happened this past April will determine if he’s still got a job next spring.

by b.orr4 on Aug 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Totally agree, and obviously what’s said behind closed doors is ten times more important than what’s said to the media.

But when a coach is throwing out “we were unlucky” while his players are falling on their swords left and right, the perception is undertandably a bit unseemly to some.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

But when a coach is throwing out "we were unlucky" while his players are falling on their swords left and right, the perception is undertandably a bit unseemly to some.

Not just the contrast between the players (and GM) coming out and saying “we didn’t get it it done”, but the way Boudreau seems willing to pass the buck.

In ‘09 he said "I don’t think it’s systems. We just have to get them to play the systems a little bit better. They’ve learned it for a year now. I’m not in charge of the personnel. But we’ll see what the personnel looks like next year."; this spring it was “It is the personnel that makes the difference” and "I think the way we play is the way we were built, and if we had to make all these guys into checkers and play a trap game, I think it would have been a pretty boring team to watch, and we wouldn’t have been anywhere near as successful as we were."

That’s not just giving political answers to get through the day without divulging information, that’s saying “I know there’s a problem, but it ain’t my fault.” Or at least that’s how it comes across.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, and the standard company line for a coach that oversees a playoff flop generally includes a line about improving as a team and making sure it doesn’t happen again. If that’s his PR line, it’s a very atypical one and it understandably rubs a lot of people the wrong way.

by Kolzilla on Aug 19, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I generally try to give Boudreau the benefit of the doubt, and we’ve heard an awful lot of people say he’s an astute coach who knows the game inside in out, but I have to admit that what I see of the Capitals seems to back up what he says in public, and that makes me wonder.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I don’t know, given the fact that the preparation problems of the team have not improved over the past couple of years I’m not sure how strongly Bruce really is cracking the whip behind closed doors.

I really admire what Bruce was able to do once he took over the team, he did a hell of a job. But I just haven’t seen anything from the past two seasons that screams that he is the guy to take the team to the next level. Maybe it’s just me, but I’m past giving him the benefit of the doubt without seeing the results on the ice.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure how strongly Bruce really is cracking the whip behind closed doors.

This is the biggest concern I have about Bruce.

In honor of RB’s job performance review this week, I’m thinking of doing a job performance Fanpost on BB.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t make it one-sided. 121 points is a hell of an accomplishment. Green’s success has been a hell of an accomplishment.

Boudreau’s a hell of a motivator and sometimes a lousy tactician. If he were fired for a great tactician, there’s be a real loss along with the gain.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

At the same time, though, its clear thus far that being a helluva motivator isn’t going to cut it.

by Chris Burton on Aug 19, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

But how much of Green’s success is simply a coach turning him loose? How much of individual player development can be attributed to Bruce and his staff and how much is simply maturation, experience and normal development?

And Game 5 would like a word with you about how great a motivator he is.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce was his Hershey coach. I think Bruce gets a lot of credit for Green’s development. Green himself has given that credit to Bruce.

And I know I’m in the minority here, but I lay this past series mainly on the players, not the coaching. My main beef with the coaching was in putting too much emphasis in regular season records and accomplishments. Coming into the playoffs the players felt invincible. That to me was the mistake.

Of course, it’s a fine line between swagger and feeling invincible.

And by the way, they did run into a hot goalie. We may never ever again see a team outshoot another team 38-28, 54-21, and then 42-16 in three consecutive games and lose all three. For all the rage about game 5 around here, they gave up 2 goals in 10 minutes. Just two goals!

Maybe Boudreau’s more right than folks are willing to admit to themselves. I know it’s not the American ethic, but sometimes bad shit is out of your control and there’s not much more you could have done.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

And I know I’m in the minority here, but I lay this past series mainly on the players, not the coaching.

I guess my question, then, is: what were the players doing that was hurting them in the series that was independent of the coaching staff?

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Being immature. Being young. Maybe this just wasn’t a Stanley Cup team. Maybe they really did need a veteran defenseman to take the load off Mike Green. Maybe they really did need a steady 2C. Maybe they missed Sergei Fedorov more than they thought they would.

I know with the early season Nylander situation it was impossible, but in retrospect the 2.5 Million they saved by going with Brendan Morrison instead of Fedorov looks pretty pennywise and pound foolish.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

What specifically do you mean by being immature and/or young?

I don’t disagree on Green, but doesn’t that come down, in part, to the coaching staff?

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I mean they all played their freaking hearts out. Other than 10 minutes in Game 5, the effort was all there. But Montreal was smarter than them because more of them had been there before.

Who was he supposed to play instead of Green? Corvo? Poti? Morrisonn on the PP? The team lacked defensive depth, took first one bad injury (Green) and then another (Poti) that they could hardly withstand, and Corvo wasn’t the answer.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean they all played their freaking hearts out. Other than 10 minutes in Game 5, the effort was all there. But Montreal was smarter than them because more of them had been there before.

Which is where the coaching staff comes in, right? This Caps team wasn’t full of playoff novices, and they should have been prepared.

“Taking the load off Green” is about more than just ice time – it’s about Green knowing he doesn’t have to be “the guy” or change his style of play to appease people who think he’s not good defensively. Obviously there’s only so much coaches can do in that situation, but they do play a role.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

What could Boudreau possibly have done to convince Green that he didn’t have to be “the guy?” Green did have to be the guy. Who else was going to step into that role, once it was clear that the Corvo experiment wasn’t going to work?

Green’s not stupid. He knows how much the team was depending on him. This year, Alzner and Carlson could help. I’d like to see McPhee take even more of the load off of 52. But I don’t see what Boudreau could do.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green really doesn’t have to be “the guy”, though, in the sense that it’s not up to him to put the team on his back and carry them to victory. Obviously there’s enough talent and there are enough marquee players that Green doesn’t have to fill that role. To me, in the playoffs, he looked like he was trying to be all things to all people, trying to hit, trying to play a shutdown role, trying to create offense, trying too hard as a whole – pressing.

I know that’s something the coaching staff talked to him about, and without knowing Green and his state of mind, I’m not going to pretend that I know it would have been that simple. Nonetheless, I would hope the coaching staff would be in a position to have a guy listen when they give him advice.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think we’re missing each other. I’m suggesting that given the composition of players on the team, there was no other defenseman ready or able to step into the gap that Green would have left by not trying to do everything himself. That’s what the “Green’s not stupid” line was meant to get across. The coaches could have said whatever they wanted, but Green could see that Corvo wasn’t doing it and who else was available?

Stars step up. That’s what Green was trying to do. The problem there was depth and personnel, not coaching (and then it was Poti getting hit in the eye with a puck).

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I think that was him problem. His attitude seemed “Okay, Mike, it’s the playoffs. Time to dominate and show the world what you can do” when “Okay, Mike, you’ve been a damn good player in the NHL for three years, just do what you do and you’re going to help this team win”.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

But look, it’s hockey. That’s what stars do. How many stories are there of guys pulling through the injuries?

What if he’d scored that one amazing goal?

More to the point, who should have gotten that playing time at that point? The problem was that McPhee didn’t give Boudreau the depth he needed during the season, and Boudreau over-used Green during the season. Once they were in the playoffs and Green was hurt, they were screwed.

John Carlson, I sincerely hope you are what you appear to be.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Regardless of whether it’s what players do, it’s not what Mike Green should have been doing in that series. How much is on Green and how much is on the staff, we’ll never know, though.

Who should have seen more time on the point? In the regular season, I don’t really care, anyone, just someone to keep Green’s total minutes down. In the postseason? Poti, Corvo, or Carlson would have been nice options to take some of the powerplay time off of Green’s hands.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fedorov was toast. He showed that amply in the Olympics.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

As did Forsberg, and it cost both their teams.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. At least with Forsberg, there was the possibility he could hold up over a short tournament – his skills are still there to a large degree. Fedorov just has no footspeed at all anymore.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

As did Forsberg, and it cost both their teams

I disagree.
Did he contribute a lot?
No.
But I can’t remember a sequence in any of the games when he cost the team significantly.
Tre Kronors problem against Slovakia was that they underestimated their opponent and in that game and the tourney as a whole bad coaching. For example Bengt-Ã…ke gave the Sedins to little ice time and used his checking line to much. The way he used Samuel PhÃ¥lsson was just bizarre. I really like PÃ¥hlsson but to have him on the ice at the end of a most win game…

Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.

by Malin A on Aug 19, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good points all IW.

As much as I am a Bengt-Ake supporter, his coaching in Vancouver left a lot to be desired.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 19, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, if Bruce is telling Brooks Laich to stick his ass in Halak’s face, and he ain’t doing it, what is he supposed to do? He did bench Morrison and ultimately Flash for being ineffective. So there was some accountability. Was he supposed to bench Semin, who was leading everyone in shots on goal? At least that guy was getting his chances. Was he supposed to bench Green and play the ineffective Corvo?

Maybe this wasn’t the right team to beat the Habs.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Laich was a problem, but the bigger issue of accountability goes back to the regular season. If you’re the coaching staff you have 82 games and seven months to establish that players will be held accountable and to get them to break bad habits, and that’s not something that seemed like a priority to me.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

How is 1 shot in 29 shifts from Brooks Laich in Game 5 not a problem? Let’s just say the poor play in Game 5 wasn’t a “European” vs. “North American” issue. No, I think Laich carries as much blame as his much maligned linemate. Semin was getting those pucks on net. Why wasn’t Laich banging them in?

You really think better coaching would have made Brendan Morrison more effective?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was referring the series as a whole, rather than just game five. I don’t think Laich was great, but I don’t think he was a major problem. As for why he wasn’t there to knock them in – Semin took a lot of shots, and a lot of them were bad. That didn’t help.

I didn’t say I thought better coaching would have made Morrison more effective.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whose bad habits did you mean?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The two big ones that seemed to come up over and over were long shifts and bad decisions/lazy plays like turnovers and retraining penalties in the neutral zone.

The one that was most evident in the playoffs, I thought, was the team’s tendency to keep doing the same thing over and over without success. I like your rope-a-dope analogy. The thing is, the Caps had a long regular season to figure out what to do in those situations, and all season long they’d just keep trying to same thing and never seemed all that willing to simplify their game and play dump and chase hockey.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If there’s a coach in this world who can convince Semin to quit trying to play the “beautiful game,” I’d like to know who that is.

The ones who really disappointed me were the ones who could have been crashing the net and didn’t. Thus my frustration with Laich.

I hate to say it, but it’s possible that this team actually missed Chris Clark.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right – maybe Semin’s incorrigible. But do you feel like Boudreau’s making an honest effort when his public stance is “yeah, well, we’d like him to do the things we’d like him to do, but what are you gonna do?”

Beyond that, what about the rest of the team?

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I happen to think that may actually be the best way to get maximum production out of Semin.

Which is why I’d love to be less reliant on him.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

But Laich has shown the same inconsistency in crashing the net in the regular season too. Sometimes he’s another Knuble, other times he acts like he’s the go to guy on the PP and sits at the side of the net calling for the puck.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that really coaching? Was Bruce saying “remember that crashing the net thing you were doing yesterday? Well, stop that.”

Maybe Laich’s just not that good a power forward (or 2C or penalty killer or…)

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

It goes into the accountability issue. Laich was still consistently on the top PP unit despite his inconsistent performance and Knuble’s presence. If BB doesn’t hold people accountable in the regular season of course the problems aren’t going to fix themselves.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

How can you talk about the 8th most valuable Capital that way?

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by cuqui on Aug 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laich was a big problem throughout the series. He was very rarely getting to the front of the net like he was suposed to, either ES or PP. The Caps were getting most of their goals when a player got to the front of the net, and Laich wasn’t doing that – which he had been during the regular season.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 19, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t in the front of the net as much as we would have liked at even strength because his linemates were either completely ineffective or hurling bad shots, as D’ohboy.

Yet, somehow, Laich averaged 3.0 shots a game in the postseason to 2.84 in the regular season, from an average distance of 21.7 feet (wrist shots only, at 5-on-5), as compared with 27.2 feet in the regular season.

So he was shooting more often, from closer range, despite the crap play of his teammates – and he was a problem through the whole series because he wasn’t getting shots or crashing the net?

by David Getz on Aug 20, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was a problem because he wasn’t getting to the FRONT of the net, like Knuble was doing. 21.7 feet isn’t the distance he should have been out – he should have been right outside the crease. It’s not a matter of where he’s getting shots from, it’s where his body is – which those stats don’t even address.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 20, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin was getting those pucks on net. Why wasn’t Laich banging them in?

We’ve been over this a TON. Semin was bombing away from long range, preventing Laich from setting up in front of the net and generally killing his linemates’ ability to generate chances.

Without a decent #2C, that line lived and died with Semin.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

How do we know how effective Laich’s bee-hind in Halak’s face is if the puck is ricocheting off Hal Gill’s shin pad?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin had 9, then 7, then 8 SOG in the last three games. That’s SOG, not SOS (shots on shin). Some of that stuff was getting through.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or to expound – who is at fault when the players have the same problem over and over?

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depends on the problem. Sometimes it’s a sign you need new players, if only to rearrange the roles of the ones that remain.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did need to sign new players (or at least replace some).

But some of those guys that are doing the same shit…they aren’t being replaced.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the beginning of the season, I never thought last year’s roster was a cup-winning team — at least not without very good luck.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps not, but they should have been a final four team.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

They had an easy road out of the East. Any way you slice it they underachieved.

by Kolzilla on Aug 19, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

And it’s not just Game 5. It’s Game 7 against the Pens, it’s the first 4 games against the Rags. It’s their lackadaisical approach to bottom feeders in the regular season.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Rags series is fair criticism, I think.

Game 7 against the Pens was “spent” and “exhausted,” not lackadaisical. Criticize them for not leaving anything in the tank, but don’t criticize them for not trying.

But the Habs series is something different. The Habs pulled the rope-a-dope. There’s no better name for the way the Habs allowed themselves to be outshot.

In the Rumble in the Jungle, Foreman must have landed 100 hard punches, and he was the hardest puncher in the world at the time. Ali just took it, with his defenses up. Just like the Habs just absorbed all the shots from the Caps, and then counterpunched when they could. What should Foreman have done in the Rumble in the Jungle? Stop punching Ali? Maybe Foreman could have drawn Ali out a bit, gotten him to drop those defenses with feints. But Foreman was a young man, and he just rared back and punched hard some more. And Ali took it, and Foreman exhausted himself trying to break through.

The Habs don’t get enough credit around here. They played a masterful three games of a very high risk strategy. Maybe the Caps didn’t lose that series. Maybe the Habs actually won it, the only way they possibly could, on a million-to-one shot.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with almost all of this – my biggest frustration now (looking back at the series after some time has passed) is that we stopped punching for a while at the beginning of game 5, right when they were prime for a KO (to continue your analogy).

by MikeBrady on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It reminds me of the Caps/Red Wings game during the streak. Really there was no reason the Caps should have won that game. But Theo played out of his mind anticipating all of the shots brilliantly. He was in a zone. And the Caps scored timely goals whenever they had a chance.

I remember Babcock in the post game interview using the word “opportunistic” to describe the Caps. During the playoffs whenever Cammalleri and others managed to score the one or two they needed, I thought how “opportunistic” they were.

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by capsyoungguns on Aug 19, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny thing is, classic Soviet teams would bury bottom feeders and weak teams.

At least that’s what I learned from Drago.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many 25 year olds played on the classic Soviet teams?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Purely for the exercise, from the ’72 Summit Series:

Petrov (25)
Kharlamov (24)
Yakushev (25)
Maltsev (23)
Vasiliev (23)
Tretiak (20? Frak)

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ’87 Canada Cup was a tad older (the KLM was 27-28, Fetisov and Kasatonov were around the same, if a year or so older)

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mainly remember the Soviet teams where Bure couldn’t break the lineup. but that was the 80s. I stand corrected.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. Like I said, I wasn’t doing it to refute anyone, was personally curious.

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

A generation ago people were more mature at a younger age than they are now. A recent study said that yesterday’s 25 year-old compares to today’s 30 year-old.

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by oldemystix on Aug 19, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess when they say 30 is the new 25, they mean it maturity wise as well. :-)

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the fact that people seem to physically mature at earlier ages than before; earlier age at menses. So we are now having a serious disconnect between physical maturity and emotional maturity.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for the fact that people seem to physically mature at earlier ages than before; earlier age at menses.

Oh?

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

G.O.D., I certainly wouldn’t make it one sided.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cool. There’s a lot of good with the bad. I ain’t saying Boudreau’s the best, but I don’t think he’s the worst either. And I personally put a lot of value in continuity. I think a below average coach with some job security is better than a revolving door of above average coaches, but that’s just me.

Obviously, if you can find a great coach and keep him long term, that’s the best.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

No disagreement with anything you’ve said. I’ll tell you what, if you want, we can complete the “review” together.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, post what you had in mind. I shouldn’t have inserted myself.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m past giving him the benefit of the doubt without seeing the results on the ice.
what I see of the Capitals seems to back up what he says in public, and that makes me wonder.

This is exactly where I am, too. He’s 1-for-4 in Game 7’s while looking bad doing it (and the team looked bad in the one that they did eventually win).

It’s affirmative defense time for Boudreau. He’s got to show me he can do it before I’ll believe he can do it. Until that point, I think he’s part of the problem.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bruce stating the fog-delayed flight had an impact on game 5 really bothered me. Whether there was some truth to it or not, it seemed lame.

by MikeBrady on Aug 19, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Still my favorite point on that (me, in Boudreau’s Rink Wrap):

JP: To that travel point, it’s kind of ironic that Boudreau even dismissed the Pens’ snow travel as an excuse for them – “Other than a few of their players, they’ve played in the American (Hockey) League before. A bus ride has never hurt anybody.” – and then used the travel excuse himself.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

We had to shovel snow. You know how hard that is?

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And how.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would sure go a long way with this person.

by mechanicsville on Aug 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you can’t score, you can’t score. It happens and you can’t change a thing.

I actually agree with him. There are times as a coach where you do everything you can in terms of juggling lines, changing personnel, changing the setup, switching up the forecheck, etc. etc. and none of it works. Sometimes, the puck just won’t go in.

I’m not excusing BB’s performance, and I haven’t re-watched the series to catalog everything that BB did or failed to do, I’m just saying that what he’s talking about is very real, and very frustrating.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

While that may be true, I don’t think BB exhausted all the possibilities. He may have switched the personnel around, but he didn’t switch up the strategy at all to adapt to the Canadiens. Plus, that phenomenon is more typically a one game thing rather than something that takes place over several games. So the whole “there was nothing we could do” excuse doesn’t sit well with me.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 19, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I wasn’t meaning to endorse his entire analysis, I just think that the phenomenon he’s talking about does happen.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I’ll just note that we weren’t really able to solve the Habs all season long. One regulation win, one OT win, one regulation loss, one OT loss.

Pretty much mirrored in the post season.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I recall a similar dry spell during the regular season, or at least I think I do. Not sure how to check that data, but it was on one of the west coast swings as I recollect. The team went through a several game stretch where they just could not connect on the PP. They didn’t generate any chances, they could never get organized in the zone, and they didn’t win many games. I specifically recall during a GDT there were several comments along the lines of, “I wish they could just decline this PP.”

I’m starting to think that part of it was lack of adjustment and part of it was just one of those cold spells at precisely the wrong time.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excerpt #2 is a-comin’ ‘round lunch time. I have a feeling you all might not like it quite as much as yesterday’s mid-day offering from Becca.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Clearly I was just softening the ground for it – think of that Brads post as the blogging equivalent of an anesthetic.

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m getting the feeling that there’s absolutely nothing positive in this book at all, and you have my sympathies that you actually spent the time reading it so we don’t have to.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not the case, but I’d say that it is on the negative side of center (in large part because it followed him during and focused on a very difficult year).

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m behind in the collection of books I haven’t read, so this one isn’t likely going on that list.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I live to read (my goal in life? Make enough money that I can upgrade to a 2 bedroom place so one of the rooms can be a library), but “The Ovechkin Project” isn’t going to be something that ends up on my shelves.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 19, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t read the last excerpts and I don’t believe I’ll read this one. We’ll see. But I get the feeling I’ve heard all I need to about this particular book.

Step 1: Decide what you’re going to say.
Step 2: Research hard to find evidence to support what you’ve already decided you’re going to say.

Looks good for a lawyer, who has to represent his client. But isn’t that a bit backwards for a bio writer?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the feeling that that’s the case at all. In fact, the book was intended to be quite different at the outset (if you check out the original title, you’ll see that), but events of the past year took it in a different direction.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

And to be fair, I do think Ovechkin needs to grow the hell up a bit

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Roger that. And while I think that the book is a bit heavy-handed in (many) places in making that point, the reality is that 2009-10’s Alex Ovechkin, for better or for worse, wasn’t the same guy he was earlier on.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not unfair at all. I do hope he doesn’t get overwhelmed early this season with questions about a book that he couldn’t care less about.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

He won’t. There’s not enough new material in this book to cause any real shitstorm.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that’s enough reason right there for me not to read it. Sounds like I’ve already heard most of it

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do think Ovechkin needs to grow the hell up a bit

Agree with this. It’s time for him to put the million miles an hour persona behind him.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not understanding this. A seemingly more mature, toned down Ovechkin just didn’t play like Ovechkin from the Olympics through the Habs series.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. However, I feel he has been maturing, at least hockey-wise, and not getting credit for it. Does he still make mistakes on the ice and in his new leadership role? Yes, and that is part of the learning curve he’s on. It’s his off ice maturity level/decision making that concerns me most.

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by oldemystix on Aug 19, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to defend Cox, but I agree with J.P. I believe when Cox began the project he thought the book would be more about Ovi’s successes rather failures given the expectations for Team Russia and the Caps.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

To wit, the original title was apparently “”http://alexovetjkin.blogspot.com/2010/03/damien-cox-new-book-on-ovechkin.html" target="new">The Ovechkin Project: From Olympic Glory to the Stanley Cup, a Russian Hockey Genius’ Modest Bid for World Domination." Sounds pretty positive to me.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sonofa… despite the HTML fail, you can see that the original titles was gonna be “The Ovechkin Project: From Olympic Glory to the Stanley Cup, a Russian Hockey Genius’ Modest Bid for World Domination”

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I rather liked “Alex Ovechkin: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler.”

Hasta siempre Jaime.

by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

is that the Swedish title?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 19, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

The German title, actually.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t know that. Hell of a mouthful. Does sound as if the book morphed into something else: Genius to Dangerous.

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by capsyoungguns on Aug 19, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this the one where we actually find out that Alex likes to kick puppies and drown kittens?

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by CapsFan2020 on Aug 19, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

he also enjoys stealing candy from small children and spitting on the elderly.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 19, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s the best in the world at both.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 19, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

…or at least the most dangerous.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

does this really need to be sponsored?

No-touch icing will be tested Thursday at the 2010 NHL Research, Development and Orientation Camp Fueled By G Series,

at any rate, it would be helpful if they could take some discretion out of the call. for example, no touch icing is called if the defensive player is below the face off dots before the offensive player. or eliminate the need for the offensive player to touch the puck at all to wash out icing. if the offensive player is below the dots first, no icing. there still is some discretion associated with the call but at least they deliniate when the linesman would make the call or not. if he’s going to wait until both players are near the goal line, it defeats the purpose of the new rule.

at any rate, i’m guessing 90 percent of icing calls are pretty cut and dried and therefore no touch icing makes sense.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 19, 2010 8:31 AM EDT reply actions  

More importantly, does the article need to include the sponsor’s name? That jumped out at me, too… at any rate.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

You take your money where you can get it, I suppose. Take the [Sponsor’s Name] Winter Classic, for example. I hate it, too, but I guess if everyone wants to get paid, this is what we have to put up with.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but when you read articles on it, do you see it referred to as “the Winter Classic” or “the Winter Classic presented by Bridgestone” (or whatever it is)?

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

The latter, actually, if you’re reading anything at nhl.com. Otherwise, I’d guess probably not.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

How ’bout that? Annoying.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

would love to know how much Gatorade paid for that sponsorship and how much revenue they think they will earn by doing so?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all turning into Nascar (Winston Cup, Nationwide Series, etc.)

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by bagace on Aug 19, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a PEPCO (!) power play…

…geez, I hate that.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

given pepco’s recent performance, i’d say this was an apt sponsorship during last years playoffs…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 19, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Virginia Power for the win!

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t I hear something about someone else sponsoring the power play?

And I have to admit that American Pest sponsoring the PK is kind of amusing – like crushing bugs?

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by gotsparkly on Aug 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s kind of appropriate when Patrick Kaleta goads one of the Caps into taking a cheap shot.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate it too…but at least the tie-in makes sense. I’d probably hate it even worse if it was…

“IT’S TIME FOR A GEICO INSURRRRRANNNCE POWER PLAY!” [cue “Sandstorm”]

…or just insert what ever sponsor in there you’d like.

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Aug 19, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

So easy even a Ovechkin like creature can do it

find your own...

by NJNJ on Aug 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unless it’s during the playoffs…

(sorry).

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by PaintDrinkingPete on Aug 19, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

its my new DJ King way of typing…we all have our tics, at any rate…

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by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I can understand that, I guess.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

at any rate, i’m guessing 90 percent of icing calls are pretty cut and dried and therefore no touch icing makes sense.

Out of curiosity, anyone want to take a stab at how many extra seconds of playing time would be added to a game with no-touch icing? I figure 1.5-2 seconds per icing call?

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by renstar on Aug 19, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think around 30 seconds.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

does this really need to be sponsored?

Does a Budweiser really need to be $8? Does parking really need to be $20+? Do tickets need to be $nnnn?

Just par for the course as millionaire players and billionaire owners squeeze every dollar out of sponsors and fans so hopefully they won’t have to cancel a season arguing how to split the billions.

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, people, when I pun – in the first effing bullet, no less – I want it groaned at.

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

[Groan]

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You shouldn’t run such pretty pictures then.

Oh wait. Yes you should.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Honestly, it wasn’t a bad enough pun. Now, if you’d been able to work in “muscle his way through it” that would have been bad. Or how about this:

“Boyd Gordon hopes that a hockey puck is the only kind of frozen disc he has to contemplate this year.”

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now that would be a good groaner.

(And we hopefully will not hear about back to back years of a bad back.)

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice. Those never get old.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 19, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought one of these earlier today.

“Did you hear that the Rangers are going to send some players to the minors to clear cap space?”

“When they’re waived…
those players’ faces will…
redden.”

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was more noticing the spelling error in the 3rd bullet. Unless it actually is “hybird” icing. In which case I might like to see that.

by Caps1Fan on Aug 19, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happy Ovechkin-Backstrom Day!

A date the Caps will rock for at least 10 more years.

by meatball20 on Aug 19, 2010 9:41 AM EDT reply actions  

Malkin

11th place is way too low for Malkin on that ESPN board. I wonder how many people would take Heater, Parise, or Semin before Geno in any draft. Shit is wack.

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by turnituptoeleven on Aug 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions  

…or both Sedins

by Ginga on Aug 19, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

For real. Malkin had an off year, but he’s one of the most talented players in the league and I fully expect him to be back to 90+ point form.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 19, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been impressed by King Karl’s media exposure this summer. He’s engaging without being too revealing. The more I see and hear from him the more I believe he’ll have an “A” on an NHL sweater eventually.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 11:18 AM EDT reply actions  

Just listened in. First time I’d heard KA refer to his girlfriend as his “fiance.” Congrats! Must have been that awesome beard that convinced her. =)

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by bagace on Aug 19, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Young Karl…what the hell are you doing getting hitched now?

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by macvechkin on Aug 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he likes the lady. You gotta lock down the good ones early.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point! (But one could argue that maybe the future wife may be locking herself down at too early an age.)

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

When is this event supposed to take place? I’m assuming in less than a year.

Don’t tell me that Alzner will get hitched at a younger age than I. (But then again, so did Stephen Strasburg and he’s only 2 month’s older than Alzner.)

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Must’ve been the (hopefully!) permanent callup to the NHL that convinced him.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Permanent callups have a way of convincing men to marry.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

The new excerpt is up. Hope it doesn’t spoil your appetite for lunch…

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by J.P. on Aug 19, 2010 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

For those who were curious about the team travel/bus packages, info is starting to creep out there ($900 for game day bus, $1600 for 3 night 2 day at the Sheraton Station Square).

On the plus side, the tickets (and WC schwag) are built into the pricing.

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by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

Aren’t bloggers getting free tix and accommodations?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 19, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

If by “tix” you mean “seats on your own couch” then…yes, yes we are :)

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

On my game day bus trips, they usually involved booze, cheese stuffed peppers and visits to the club, but that’s OT…

Hasta siempre Jaime.

by Bald Pollack on Aug 19, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best part for me of getting that e-mail was confirmation that there will be gloves and hats for WC swag on sale.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

if there’s one thing I’m going to beg you to bring back (besides a win!), it’s a glove-hat-scarf set!

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by RedBirdie on Aug 19, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I’m hoping they have them at the Caps Convention. I’m not planning to wait for game day to get it.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Per @JeffMarek:

Thrash sign D Freddy Meyer to 1 year K.

Panthers sign LW Andrew Peters to 1 year K.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Terms for Meyer? He’d be a significant improvement at 6D if Mitchell doesn’t work out, in my opinion.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 19, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two-way deal, I believe, $500K NHL/$105K AHL.

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I really hope we get Mitchell or Mottau, then.

(grumble)

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 19, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a legit center.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nobody is in a hurry to sign Mottau, which is a shame, because I thought he was a pretty solid D-man for the money that he made.

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

@dchesnokov: Bykov and Zakharkin, who so spectacularly lost to Canada in Vancouver and to the Czechs at the Worlds, will continue as Rus Nat team coaches

Ugh…

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Aug 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Really? I thought Bykov said he would retire.

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by red army line on Aug 19, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He must have some interesting photos.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

When Bykov sent Ovie out for a THIRD shootout attempt vs Slovakia, while Datsuk sat on the bench after only one try, I wanted to rip my seat out of the ground and throw it onto the ice. The man doesn’t know North American hockey whatsoever.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Aug 19, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

blah North American hockey blah blah

blah fixed that blah blah

(sorry, I’m feeling lazy)

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Putin supports him.

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Aug 19, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally surprising to me, especially after what Bryzgalov said in his interview that’s on the Alex Ovetjkin blog:

Have you understood for yourself why the Olympics in Vancouver were lost so soundly?
Of course. I think for the same reasons we lost the world championship.

From the outside it looked like a purely coaching failure.
I think you have answered your own question.

http://alexovetjkin.blogspot.com/2010/08/ilja-bryzgalov-moscow.html

by difer on Aug 19, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not surprising. The Russian Hockey Federation wanted to fire Bykov, but they got a telegram from Vlad Putin expressing his full confidence in Coach B, and they felt they had no choice. He just signed a four year extension, but there’s a clause to evaluate his performance in two years.

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

State of Russia, both government and hockey wise.

What ever Putin wants, Putin gets.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question of the Day! Meeeeemorieeees….light the corners of my mind.

by Becca H on Aug 19, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Anyone else out there think that Atlanta could be this year’s Phoenix Coyotes, i.e., the team that nobody expects anything from that actually has a great year?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

In the regular season, playoffs or both? Atlanta wasn’t going anywhere in the playoffs but weren’t too far out from making it into the playoffs as the end of the season approached.

Is anybody expecting anything out of the Lightning? They could win a lot more games this coming season with a maturing Stamkos and more consistency in goal and on D

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by Icebat on Aug 19, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m talking regular season

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on their dark horse potential. Definitely better than last year in terms of personnel, and if they have a season with a high shooting percentage, they will turn some heads. They’re going to need some breaks to do it, but every year there’s a team that’s hotter than they should be. And they’ll pick up some gift points from teams not taking them seriously.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or an overperforming goalie. It seems like every year has a Tim Thomas; a guy who’s pretty good over his career, but plays totally out of his mind for one season. That’s worth a bunch of wins, certainly enough to get even a middling team into the playoffs.

ATL’s real success is going to depend on the development of their youngsters, specifically Kane and Bogo. If those two are ready to eat legitmate tough minutes and drive offense, then they’re a much better team. I don’t see the Hawks castoffs as improving them hugely, but they are upgrades in those slots.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 19, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Atlanta has some of the components that Phoenix had. Their coaching has improved (I’ve heard nothing but good things about Craig Ramsay), and they’ve made some low-budget acquisitions that could help them in areas that they struggled last year (e.g. Chris Mason as a goaltender; Brent Sopel and Johnny Oduya on defense), and they have some young guys who are ready to make the jump forward (e.g. Bergfors, Byfuglien, and Ladd).

But I think they’re missing two key ingredients: 1) they don’t have a world-beating goaltender like Ilya Bryzgalov, and 2) they don’t have the defense necessary to make it work.

I also think Phoenix waaaaaaaaay overperformed last year and benefited really heavily from the shootout – they had 14 shootout wins – four more than the next team – and six shootout losses – and a regression to the mean for them would mean losing four standing points. They were also 15-6 in one-goal games in regulation, which indicates a little bit that they’re overperforming (though to an extent it’s also part of their game plan).

by Wheeler on Aug 19, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard nothing but good things about Craig Ramsay

And have you seen the guy? If I was a hockey player, I’d definitely play my heart out for Jean Luc Picard

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think ATL, like the Isles, may be another year or two away. They need at least one more scorer or two.

Using almost any metric the Yotes definitely overperformed. I think its funny that now some media people are acting as if its a foregone conclusion they reach the playoffs again this year. I’m not sold.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 19, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Tippet will get fired the way Andy Murray was as a penalty for regressing to the mean.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 19, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Sacco is more likely to be this year’s Andy Murray. 2010-11 COL has 2009-10 STL written all over them.

Release the Mackan!

by Killer_Carlson on Aug 20, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

You’re thinking along the same lines as me, KC.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 20, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of overachievers, Colorado was another overachiever last year.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless Atlanta manages to hit one of the “higher seeded” teams in Round 1 that it has figured out.

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s possible, but they need someone to emerge on offense. Peverley, Kane, Bergfors, and Antropov are all good players, but none look like high-end first line talent.

by David Getz on Aug 19, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too deep on the wings, not enough down the middle. When you’re best center/player is Nik Antropov, and the next center on the depth chart is Rich Peverley, you’re in trouble.

I think they’ll be a pain in the ass to play against, but they’re desperately in need of some centers.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 19, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like I’ve heard that before somewhere. Hmmmm, who could it be?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pittsburgh?

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by EmilyB on Aug 19, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe Philly, I dunno…

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 19, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could Atlanta possibly be……. Capitals lite?

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by CapsFan75 on Aug 19, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like the Post is trying to compete with SB Nation.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/early-lead/2010/08/calling_all_dc_sports_fans.html

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 19, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Ha! I just thought it was kind of funny.

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