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Your savory breakfast links:

  • In case you missed it in the overnight, be sure to check out our translation of a lengthy Russian-language interview with Semyon Varlamov... [Japers' Rink]
  • ... and one with Evgeny Kuznetsov as well. [Japers' Rink]
  • Nicklas Backstrom: "[W]e have a lot to learn about playoff hockey, that’s quite clear." [FanPost]
  • Comparing (and contrasting) Backstrom and Peter Forsberg. [Red Line Station]
  • "How do you put a dollar figure on the influence Ovechkin has when he visits a child with cancer?" [WaPo, Ted's Take]
  • Later this week, we'll be excerpting Damien Cox and Gare Joyce's new book (which you can pre-order here), so stay tuned. Spoiler alert: you won't find that last bullet in there.
  • Get to know new guy Brian Fahey. [Flashy Glove Save]
  • Another look at the center situation. [Jumping the Glass]
  • A reminder for Caps fans: as bad as it might get these days, it's never as bad as it was. [Peerless]
  • Caps-themed Katy Perry parodies aren't for everyone, but if it sounds like something you'd dig, well... here you go. [RMNB]

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I know there’ve been a couple Ovie biographies written already. Is there anything different about this one?

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by Jake Shapiro on Aug 16, 2010 7:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Don’t know – haven’t read others. But this one is likely more current, at the very least (covering through June’s NHL Awards).

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by J.P. on Aug 16, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Call me crazy, but i really dont have any interest in reading an ov biography, whether it be of the fawning/suck up authorized version or the unauthorized kitty kelly-ish hatchet job version. seems like there have been many great articles writted about ov and his parents and upbringing to get a good understanding of where he’s from and what motivates him. besides, the guy is not yet 25 so might be a bit early for a biography. kind of like when a band puts out a greatest hits album when they’ve only been together for a few years.

but from listening to the damien cox interviews on JRR (nice job guys), it sounds pretty clear that the angle was about ov the brooding meanie who beats up paparazzi and is mean to nice canadian boys like max talbott. hey, a guy’s gotta sell books and i guess painting ov as the “dangerous” villian will sell well in canada. i think it was telling when cox said that because he had no authorized access to ov, he didnt “owe anything” to anyone…such as the truth perhaps?

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by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 16, 2010 8:14 AM EDT reply actions  

I guess Brian Pothier is headed to Switzerland after all. His sign-with-an-nhl-team-or-else deadline expired yesterday.

Au revoir, Potsy.

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 8:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Would have liked to see him land an NHL job, but I have to say there are a lot worse places to spend a winter than Switzerland (i.e. Russia). And that’s especially true if you’re making a good living doing it. If the way he embraced Virginia is any indication, he and his family are going to have a great time over there.

by b.orr4 on Aug 16, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with this. There’s always the possibility that he was offered an NHL contract for the minimum and turned it down because he could make more in Europe, and it’s not a bad way to spend a year. I’m just theorizing here, I really have no idea. He’s lucky, at least, because the contract the Caps signed him to four years ago should have given him decent financial security.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 16, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was also hoping that he would get a good NHL deal, but I wish him the best in Switzerland. My friends loved living there.

He was another class act and will be missed.

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by oldemystix on Aug 16, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

How do you say “first day jitters” in French and German?

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

How do you say “first day jitters” in French and German?

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um…jitters de premiere jour? :)

(Can you tell I didn’t go look it up on Google translate? :P)

by Becca H on Aug 16, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like Emily’s got the jitters.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 16, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin at Jumping the Glass seems to like MP for 2C more than anyone else if you read between the lines. I had to read it 3 times because all I could think about for first 2 times was cookies. Sesame Street references are always a win in my book.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 16, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

(passes CP a rubber ducky)

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 16, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think I’m rooting for MP because I like watching him play more than I think he’s the right fit for the line. I wonder whether you really need a true 2C for Semin… he seems to get the puck, rush it and fire it from 60’ out. That’s why Backstrom always seems wasted on him when they skate together.

by Kewibr on Aug 16, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have to think that Semin needs a primarily defensive center, a guy whose job it is to cover his butt if he loses the puck.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 16, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Semin needs a humble center — someone who will adjust his game to Semin’s (because Semin ain’t ajusting his to nobody — someone who will (as gs said) play a defensively responsible game — someone who knows his main job is to get the puck on Semin’s stick

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah but a humble center won’t make the elegant, artistic plays that Semin so admires…

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

what about Backstrom? He’s a humble center, and Semin respects him. Semin enjoys playing with Backstrom.

by vtcapsfan99 on Aug 16, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backstrom is perfect. But it doesn’t take someone with that much talent, necessarily.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backstrom is an artist. And can make some pretty, pretty goals of his own.

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Leafs HQ on being an “insider” and successfully starting a trade rumor on Twitter. I guess it’s stuff we knew already (trust Bob McK and Darren Dreger and a few others), but amazing to see this put into practice.

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Wait, Kaberle was traded yesterday for Upshall and Turris? Wow.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Chesnokov tweet? TSN says he is staying put.

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by Rob Parker on Aug 16, 2010 10:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Follow the links. Especially the one marked “successfully starting a trade rumor”

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad. Just reading on my phone on my way back to DC so I’m not really following links.

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by Rob Parker on Aug 16, 2010 11:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Hahaha. That was the rumor the guy from Leafs HQ started. Funny stuff.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 16, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Burkie, what a genius.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the linkage! I honestly never expected it to work just as well as it did, but it proved a solid point.

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by Jeffler on Aug 16, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW, yesterday I said I had a Farm Report coming. Look for it tomorrow.

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d be OK with the Caps finishing that trade they’ve been working on today.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 16, 2010 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes please.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 16, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe re-signing Boynton means Chicago is poised to move another player.

Hey, I’m tryin’ here…

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by ThePeerless on Aug 16, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m telling you, that was the first domino to fall – here come the trades / signings woooo!!1

by Becca H on Aug 16, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

So is today the day? The great Belanger Annoucement Holdout enters Day 4

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Aug 16, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a plot by the Capitals to make me look at twitter more often.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 16, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

(While absentmindedly humming LL Cool J)

Don’t call it a holdout/He’s been here less a year.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 16, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That Belanger. He’s such a drama queen.

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah eff that guy for following team policy

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by Addison H. on Aug 16, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is just the move we were waiting for to complete the Flash for Sharp trade!!!!!!!

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 16, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t tease me…if that ever happened I’d build a shrine to GMGM and burn my Laich jersey as an offering to the holy McPhee.

by Becca H on Aug 16, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

If something comes up, it’ll be posted here, right?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

for sure. and the twitterz will explode

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by Addison H. on Aug 16, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

apparantly even if something doesnt come up, it’ll be posted here.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 16, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Breaking news...

Nothing is happening.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Would you have picked Henri Richard over Guy Lafleur for Habs Mount Puckmore?

I sure wouldn’t have.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 16, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I had Rocket, Beliveau, Plante and Roy.

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by J.P. on Aug 16, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have gone with Richard, Beliveau, Roy, and Lafleur

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 16, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d put Roy on the Avs’ mountain and Plante on the Habs’.

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by winterion on Aug 16, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, and also Larry Robinson was just too good to pass over for Roy IMHO.

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by macvechkin on Aug 16, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hard to leave Roy off – greatest goalie of all time, and all that, even if he did win two of his reputation-cementing cups with the Nords, er, Avs.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was my primary reason. Maybe they could have split one face and made it “Roy-bin-son”.

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by macvechkin on Aug 16, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I stand my choice of Doug Harvey.

From Legends of Hockey

Harvey proved to be an exceptionally talented and versatile player for the Habs. He quarterbacked the power play, set the tempo for the transitional game and the counterattack, defended tenaciously, blocked shots and intimidated the opposition by merely stepping on the ice. As much as any skater before or since, he was the complete player who meant everything to his team.

Beginning in 1951-52, he was selected to the NHL All-Star Team 11 consecutive years, 10 of them on the First Team. He also had a stranglehold on the Norris Trophy, winning it seven times in eight years from 1955 to 1962. His play was a vital component of Montreal’s Stanley Cup win in 1953 and the NHL record five straight from 1956 to 1960.

Following the retirement of Maurice Richard in 1960, Harvey took over as the Canadiens’ captain. Unfortunately for Harvey, he was one of the individuals blacklisted by the league because of his involvement with the first attempt to form a players’ association. In fact, his number wasn’t retired by the Canadiens until 1985.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 16, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Love old school NHL owners. Blacklisted for a union, because the Canadiens didn’t have any money to spare…

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by Bman21212 on Aug 16, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t really question their decisions — can you imagine Montreal having the run they had in the 1970s if there had been a union?

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 16, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. They an Toronto have giant fan bases that were able to throw money around. They would have still been huge and powerful. Union!=Salary Cap

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by Bman21212 on Aug 16, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had Richard, Harvey, Dryden and Beliveau. Harvey was the gold-standard for all defenders until Bobby Orr came along.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 17, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

H. Richard is puzzling.

Also puzzling: with all the bloggers out there, they get a guy from Hockeybuzz to write it?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Engels is one of the better writers over there, and he’s definitely one of the less-rumor-mongery ones.

by Wheeler on Aug 16, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The guy may write for HB, but he couldn’t do any worse than the Blackhawks Puckmore including Toews.

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by macvechkin on Aug 16, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

95% of Blackhawks fans had never heard of hockey before last season, you know. That’s the way it works when a team is bad and then they get good.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow…we’re debating the blogger’s decision to pick over the winningest player ever in terms of SCC. (Not saying I disagree or agree—I don’t know)

The Capitals as a franchise have a looong way to go.

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gah
pick over the winningest

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a franchise that has 24 Stanley Cups, how do you think there are four clear-cut choices for Mt. Puckmore enshrinement? You could have a Mt. Puckmore, a Mt. Pucksomemore, a Mt. Puckstillmore, and a Mt. Puckevenmore full of Habs. You could do it be decade from the 1950’s and probably have different sets for each until the mid 1990’s.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 16, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you for following up, Ritchie. And, um… hi Pete! :: waves ::

Birthday greetings will be forthcoming tomorrow, and many happy returns.

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by EmilyB on Aug 16, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. Nice – I already had him teed up for tomorrow as well. Odd to have wrong information out there in multiple places on something you’d think would be so easily checked.

Btw, you can let them know that our Twitter feed aggregator is named after Pete as well

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by J.P. on Aug 16, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need me to find out Pete’s favorite color, movie, restaurant or anything like that?

by Ritchie Emmons on Aug 16, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer an explanation of the 1986 Rangers series.

I kid. I think.

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by macvechkin on Aug 16, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Red Line Station takes a look at PDO and the Caps during the regular season last year.

It’s an interesting stat.

His conclusion is basically that the Caps outperformed their true talent level last season, which I generally agree with.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

In terms of team outcomes, this is the expected result (as far as the regular season goes). 121 points, first non-original six team to do it, etc. etc. A lot of it fueled by a 14-game winning streak. No one should expect that — or a 121-point season — to be repeated.

It isn’t unlike Mike Green’s 2009-2010 season on the heels of his 31-goal 2008-2009 season. The earlier season had an eight-game goal scoring streak. You can’t expect a record-setting performance to be the norm, and that’s what influenced that outcome disproportionately. He still had 19 goals in 75 games, hardly slacking off (if you account for the streak). The same is likely to be the Caps’ result this season. 105 points might be seen by some as a step back, but there won’t be a 14-game winning streak this year, either.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 16, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outside of the streak, the team won at a .684 points percentage, which is still pretty good – that would have put them at 112 points over the whole 82 games.

That .684 might be fueled by the higher-than-normal shooting percentage, of course.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 16, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovie will be disappointed if there is no streaking.

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by oldemystix on Aug 16, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I keep seeing stuff online and on Twitter about how the Caps are in the mix for Niemi.

Interesting, but I just don’t see it happening. Has anyone seen anything that would give this legs?

I get that we have cap room, but Niemi is only 26, and I’d assume getting him would mean Neuvirth or Varly would be moved?

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by STLSpidey on Aug 16, 2010 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN Insider Rumors. Also on ESPN.com/nhl homepage.

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Saw it over the weekend, and a tweet from Hradek reminded me this morning. I suspect it’s just another example of reporters making the news, rather than reporting on it.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 16, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It looks like a logical trade for those on the outside i guess. We have two young goaltenders, who people think have troubled track records.

Tons of Cap Space+Young Goaltender Tandem+Cup Winning Goalie FA= OMG TRADE!!

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by kingzman264 on Aug 16, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, signing, not trade, but point taken.

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that we have cap room, but Niemi is only 26, and I’d assume getting him would mean Neuvirth or Varly would be moved?

Pretty much. The only way I can see the Caps signing Niemi is if that trade they’re supposedly working on a deal includes one of them. Say [HFBoards]Flash and Varly for Regher?[/HFBoards] It also would explain why it’s taking so long to work out—there’s more moving pieces involved than originally expected.

by Forsch31 on Aug 16, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calgary has ten players with NMC’s or NTC’s (Regehr has an NMC), plus a buyout. That’s pretty much a mess.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 16, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would the Caps spend more than three times as much money (based on Niemi’s arbitration award) than they are obligated to pay either of their current goalies, for a goalie who is not demonstrably better than either of those goalies right now and almost certainly not better than this coming spring?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 16, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’m going to barf if we pick up Niemi.

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by zephyr on Aug 16, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else read about Kane’s weekend with the Cup? I couldn’t resist. Really, I can’t imagine how anyone else could have as much fun as he did with it. Niagara Falls? Hard to beat that visual.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 16, 2010 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

The pictures from the Falls are amazing, really cool.

by Becca H on Aug 16, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wonder if the Cup made it’s way to The Sundowner.

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by macvechkin on Aug 16, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like the visual (in my head) of stuffing Kane in the cup and sending them over the falls.

by Reckless on Aug 16, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Blueshirt Banter has a nice insight into another reason why Kovy’s contract was nixed—a NMC that turns into a NTC. (Dave Shapiro is the author, fwiw).

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by red army line on Aug 16, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

THN's Ken Campbell on the Trapezoid

This is easily one of the dumbest things I’ve read in quite some time.

Money quotes:

Well, we’ve had five full seasons with the trapezoid and while it might have been a concern in the pre-lockout NHL, the game has changed so much and the flow of play has so greatly improved that the league could easily abolish the trapezoid and allow goalies to play the puck with impunity without compromising offensive chances.

Well, Ken, part of the reason that the game has changed so much is that the dump and chase actually works again. This forces defensemen to surrender the blueline more easily, which makes it harder to play the trap effectively. But hey, let’s just go and remove one of the rules that led to the fast, freewheeling game we’re enjoying right now, so we can go back to watching 1-0 games between the Wild and Devils.

And who’s to say it wouldn’t lead to more scoring opportunities? Have you seen the way some of the goalies can pass the puck these days?

Who’s to say? I dunno, Ken, how about my friend Common Sense. The trapezoid only takes away small areas of ice, and those areas are about 200 feet from the opposing net. Goalies like the Marties (Brodeur and Turco) already venture from their nets to gather in pucks and start the breakout, the trapezoid simply takes away pucks in the corners. Thinking that somehow allowing goalies to corral pucks in the corners, 200 feet away from the opposing goal, will allow for more opportunities than allowing forecheckers to get to those pucks, around 35 feet away from the goal is just bewildering logic. It’s the same kind of logic that convinced the league that more area behind the nets would lead to greater scoring. All the trapezoid does is allow teams to dump the puck into the corner.

You want to get rid of a lot of the headshots that have become so controversial without actually instituting a headshot rule?

Fat lot of good this would do Marc Savard, or David Booth, or any number of the guys who got nailed on blindside hits. Moreover, there’s already a rule against slamming defensemen’s heads into the boards from behind – it’s called boarding.

And really, how fair is it to inhibit goaltenders from playing the puck anyway? Knowing how valuable a skill it is, many young goalies have honed the craft of puckhandling and made it an essential part of their skill package. Why should they be penalized for doing so?

It’s fair if the rule is equally applied to both teams. NHL hockey players get paid ridiculous sums to play in a league where the rules are subject to change. I’m not feeling terribly sorry for them. And it’s not as though goalies can’t play the puck anymore, they just can’t play it in certain places on the ice. You might as well ask the rhetorical question, “is it fair to not let Tomas Holmstrom stand inside the crease and interfere with the goalie, or to let Sean Avery wave his stick in Marty Brodeur’s face? After all, they have honed their craft and made annoying goalies an essential part of their skill package.”

And isn’t prohibiting a goalie from playing the puck tantamount to stopping defensemen from blocking shots? The next time you watch a game and wonder why the score is 1-0 in the third period, watch closely how many shots don’t even reach the net because uber-protected players are bravely throwing themselves in front of slapshots.

I gotta be honest, Ken, I’m not a huge fan of the current “pack it in on net and pray it hits someone” strategy, either. If you’ve got a solution, I’m all ears.

Another one I’ve never been able to figure out is why teams are allowed to ice the puck with impunity when killing a penalty. First, you give a team a disadvantage for breaking the rules, then you allow it to break the rules again to mitigate the disadvantage it faced for breaking the rules in the first place.

Now you’re talking. . .

Sound crazy? Well, it’s no more outlandish than establishing a small, defined area in which goaltenders are allowed to play the puck.

Goddamnit, Ken. You’re an idiot.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 16, 2010 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   4 recs

He doesn’t know the rules very well, does he. The goalie can play the puck anywhere… except TWO SMALL ZONES. The trapezoid was one of the better rule changes, and I don’t see it disappearing anytime soon.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Aug 16, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry guys, but I gotta disagree. With no more two-line passes and with the re-instituting of the tag up offsides post-lockout, I think forechecks would still be effective if the goalie could play the puck in the corners. We saw in this past olympics that when the goalies were allowed to play the puck wherever, there were some adventures. I wish we could go a year without the trapezoid to really see what kind of effect it would have. If it had a negative effect on play, then I’d be ok with the trapezoid coming back.

by Capcrazy77 on Aug 16, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of my point was simply that Ken Campbell was incorrectly quoting the rule. It only restricts the goalie from playing the puck in two areas, it does not “establish a small, defined area in which goaltenders are allowed to play the puck”.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Aug 16, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It only restricts the goalie from playing the puck in two areas, it does not "establish a small, defined area in which goaltenders are allowed to play the puck".

Yeah, it does create a small, defined area in which goaltenders are allowed to play the puck – the entire rest of the ice.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 17, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish we could go a year without the trapezoid to really see what kind of effect it would have. If it had a negative effect on play, then I’d be ok with the trapezoid coming back.

Then why not simply experiment down at the AHL level, like they’ve done with past rule changes?

I agree that with the multiple rule changes, it’s hard to determine exact causal relationships. However, I’ll point out that the neutral-zone trap originated in Sweden, where there was no two-line pass, and the trap is still effective against teams who try to pass or carry the puck through it.

Tag-up offsides has helped the flow of the game, but it hasn’t helped the dump and chase as much as the goaltenders not playing the puck.

Other than the trapezoid, the “change” that I think had the most effect was simply enforcing the interference/obstruction rule on defensemen who tried to hold up forecheckers.

I feel like opponents of the trapezoid argue out of both sides of their mouth – on the one hand, it’s a huge handicap to goalies that negates skill, and on the other, it’s had no discernible positive impact on scoring.

Which one is it? Because it’s damn hard to think how you might handicap goalies while having no positive impact on scoring. If that were the case, there isn’t a coach alive who would ever let his goalie leave the crease to play the puck.

there were some adventures

After spending 1998-2004 watching some of the most boring hockey in history, I’m not willing to get rid of an effective rule change just for the sake of “some adventures.” Adventures might create a chance or two every other game. Consistent forechecking pressure creates a ton of chances every single game.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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