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According to multiple sources, free agent centre Eric Belanger has a one-year deal in waiting to return to the Washington Capitals. The contract is believed to be a slight raise over the $1.75-million he made last season, to $1.85-million.

What's interesting is that he has been told not to announce where he's going, leading to Belanger telling the French language newspaper Le Soleil on Wednesday that he is about to sign but can't say where due to the fact the team he's headed to is working on a trade.

Washington apparently does not want to announce they've signed Belanger in order to help first complete another deal, potentially to move out a forward and bring in a defenceman. I'm told that one player the Caps are looking to trade is 26-year-old Tomas Fleishmann, who had 23 goals and 51 points in a bit of a breakout season last year and signed a one-year, $2.6-million deal this summer.

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hearing tooo much about Flash for Kaberle in the rumor mills

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Good. That means it most likely will never happen.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s what I am hoping for. But I know how much Burke wants a top 6 forward and the 15th is right around the corner for Kaberle’s NTC to go back into effect

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would Burke want a softy like Flash?

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He just re-signed Kulemin who’s no bruiser himself.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not a very good comparison since Kulemin had 136 hits last year and Fleischman had 36. Kulemin is actually reasonably physical for a Euro.

by Brad Ackerson on Aug 14, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed it wouldn’t fit with the typical type of team he wants to assemble, but in today’s market you have to find the best dance partner you can. Without a doubt Flash keeps improving each year, and technically he did not get to train that much in the offseason, so who knows.

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you think about it though: he’s got Kessel, Versteeg and Kulemin, all skilled wingers but not players with much muscle. And they also gave Colby Armstrong $3 million, which is not really third line money.

Unless Burke thinks Flash projects as a center (where they do have holes) it’s difficult to see Toronto’s interest.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right, Versteeg did go to Toronto.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You assumed Atlanta, with the rest of the ex-Blackhawks? I probably would have.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guilty.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other thing about Burke is he’s not as obsessed with muscle/toughness/grit/tenacity/truculence as people make it out to be/ His approach is that all depth players should posses it because their skill sets are replaceable, and if you have a replaceable skill set, you need to have something to set you apart – attitude. If you’re a top six player or a second pairing defenseman or better, he’s doesn’t require it.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

His defensive corps would tend to follow his typical pattern, while his top 6 forwards do not.

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed with the Kessel and Kulemin points, I tend to think of Versteeg as skill mixed with corner presence more than the aforementioned and Flash.

I’m not sure why Burke would project Flash at C given his largest body of work is a winger with limited success.

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry, last sentece was not complete.

should have read…..with limited success at C.

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes no sense to me. The one thing we don’t need is another puck moving defenseman.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

Although I think with the signing of D’Amigo that Toronto’s clearly up to making some sort of big splash soon. Hopefully it just doesn’t mean landing another Green on our Blue Line (which also boasts Green Lite now, too).

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, we could certainly use one more puck-moving defenseman, but I’d prefer it not be someone who’s as bad as Green’s made out to be in his own end.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 12, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it. Kaberle doesn’t make sense.

I agree with Mirtle: “At this point, however, all that’s clear is that Washington and Toronto are nearing trades – just not with one another.”

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

wonder if there is a three way going on here… just don’t know the other team

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hot team on team on team action.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kinky…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two man advantage

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by WordsOnIce on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle’s pretty plugged in, too. If he’s nixing TOR/WAS trades, I’m believing him.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t love Kaberle, but frankly if the Caps trade Flash for Kaberle and sign Belanger, they’re a better team this year than keeping it status quo. The main loss, IMO, would be that they might be able to score a more useful player long-term than Flash. Kaberle is very overrated, but he’s better than Sloan/Erskine.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do not want Kaberle. Especially do not want to trade for him.

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by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor I. But I want Sloan/Erskine as the #6 even less.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. Kaberle statistically comes out alright defensively since he can keep the puck on the attack. Just as long as BB protects him from the Crosbys and Malkins.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

He comes out terribly in Delta; the places he’s allowing shots from are truly terrible.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 13, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depth, depth, depth

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

If Belanger will take a one-year deal, I think the caps may still be in the mix.

Just sayin’, is all.

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by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s what I thought upon hearing it was one year.

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by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do not want Kaberle.

Belanger does not solve the 2C problem.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

No, but he makes the situation better. He’s a legitimate 3C, which means the Caps only need to find one other guy – be it via trade or via the farm system – to play with them. Belanger at 2C and Steckel at 3C is also an okay stopgap solution.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. If you are able to successfully address 2C, you simply slide the others down the depth chart and have what one could figure are our four fourth-liners (Steckel, Bradley, Gordon, and King) rotate around, with one of Gordon/Steckel at all times for faceoffs?

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who do you think Flash can fetch in a trade? Also, will my argument with D’ohboy and GusdaMan come to an end, do you think ? :-)

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who do you think Flash can fetch in a trade?

I’m really not sure. Decent player on a decent contract, but only for one more year? I’d guess the return is something similar; a second/third line player or a 4-5 defenseman with a year on his contract would be my guess.

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by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shall we continue it here?!?

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by GusDaMan on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, if we can get M. Staal for Flash and Mackan, I’ll be damn tempted :-P.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh, wha? No thanks.

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by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

??

If you’re GMGM, you have to pull the trigger on that. Like, now. A prospect who doesn’t project as a great offensive player and Flash? For a first pair D just hitting RFA? Sign me up, right now, today.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 13, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

A prospect who doesn’t project as a great offensive player

Huh? That’s not the party line around here about Mackan.

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by SmallZ827 on Aug 13, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Define “great.”

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by D'ohboy on Aug 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

The hopes for this guy seem to be the second coming of Backstrom. Just how I’ve read a lot of people’s comments and early enthusiasm. I mean, if there are people hoping he can 2C as a rookie they’ve got to see 1C potential eventually, right? Maybe I’m misinterpreting how people feel about him.

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by SmallZ827 on Aug 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see a 1C in Mackan, he’s not that kind of offensive player.

Great skater, looks like a very responsible defensive player, but nothing we’ve seen so far indicates that he’s ever going to be a 1C. Having gotten to watch him some at D camp, he’s got NHL potential in passing and plus-plus skating ability in terms of smooth strides and ability to open his hips to the puck and skating with his hips turned. But I don’t see Backstrom-type vision and I don’t see Backstrom-type hands.

I think Gouldie has it about right; Mackan has the skillset to play a dynamite game as a 3C or a ceiling of an adequate 2C. If you were going to see elite offensive numbers, in all probability we’d have seen better results in the SEL last season. Not a perfect barometer, but not altogether heartening, either. At least, not as far as offensive potential is concerned and certainly not as far as 2C in the NHL for a contending team is concerned.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 15, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh, wha? No thanks.

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by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t get me wrong, I like what Belanger brings to the table. But not if it prevents the team from signing a true 2C and a defenseman. I think we were already fine at 3C and 4C, so adding another 3C when there is limited cap space seems foolish.

But I’ll reserve judgment until we know what’s going on.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which UFA left to available to sign as a “true 2c”?

One could assume GMGM has attempted trades without success for the 2c, and is going to a plan B.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 12, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

None, I misspoke about “signing.” I was thinking about cap room for a trade.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

At $1.85M, he doesn’t prevent the acquisition of Mitchell or someone else (via trade) of his ilk.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is a super bonus. We could do $1.85 and Mitchell with still a little room left to squirm.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, assuming Mitchell is at or under $2M+bonuses, the Caps could do Belanger, Mitchell and another asset, I think.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. What I’m getting at is that if this is true, it’s not going to necessarily hamstring the Caps as much as some think.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

how much do you have pegged for Mitchell? Full Disclosure: I have no idea how profound an impact on negotiations a concussion, even a bad one, really has. But I see WM in the 2-2.5M range at minimum.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I slotted $3M as a fair estimate.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Twitterz had him talking about a 1.5 – 2.0 base + bonuses.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the bonuses can slide to 2011-2012 if they put the Caps over the cap, correct?

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

For the regular season, sure. Playoffs is another question, but the playoffs don’t exactly start tomorrow.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And gives a chance for Mackan/MP to tryout until the trade deadline without being toast down the middle.

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by Rob Parker on Aug 12, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stecks = 3C fail

If by stopgap solution, you mean “worst-case scenario for a very short period of time” then I agree. Stecks at 3C for any sizable portion of time I think would be terrible. His numbers are trending, but definitely not in the right direction for a 3C opportunity.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stonehands are normally what you look for in a 3rd center

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

… is my reaction to the suspense

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

“100 bucks you slice”?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by capsfansteve on Aug 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

so does belly think that by telling a french language newspaper, that nobody would figure it out. if the caps are indeed working on a deal, he should perhaps shut his yapper in either langauge.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s been negotiating his deals all summer in the French press.

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by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily an easy thing to do given the physical condition of his yapper! Holes.. it’s got ’em.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Worth remembering: McPhee’s deals rarely are the ones the rumor mills expect.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions  

ok so instead of trading Flash, the Caps trade Fehr or Laich? Sign a 2C instead of d-man, along with Belanger?

by vtcapsfan99 on Aug 12, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

God I hope not in the case of Fehr. Not saying they won’t do something, just reminding that it’s not usually what the rumor mills expect.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

JSchon will be upset

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by NJNJ on Aug 12, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it about mid-day when the Chimera/Clark-Juice deal started hitting the tweets?

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by bagace on Aug 12, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like it was mid to late afternoon.

by mch on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Midafternoon, I think.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even though I’m so incredibly glad we got rid of Clarkie, from a purely offensive talent and Cap space standpoint, I can’t help but feeling bad about it. We even traded back to get Juice later… how much more emphatically can you say “we don’t want you here anymore” than that? Not our finest moment.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rumors started to fly around 10am or so, but bo confirmation ’til midafternoon.

Then, bedlam.

BTW, Chimera’s name has popped up once or twice today too. :/

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by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not going anywhere. A good guy, offers what the Caps lack, reasonable hit…he’ll be here in October, barring a crazy trade.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like both ends of the pseudo-news here.

Belanger is a decent 3C. Going into the season with Flash and Mackan or MP as 50% of your center corps is ludicrous. The $1.85M is a good number.

Getting rid of Flash is a win. Getting a (hopefully veteran – looking at you, Peerless) D is even more of a win.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

I think we are all square at the crappy center position, thanks though belanger.

If we get good return for flash then fine but id rather give perreault a shot than belanger. If it doesnt work we get trade mid season and have plenty of cap room to do so

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Belanger being signed does not mean Perreault does not get a shot, you know. CapGeek has us at 21 players signed. He’ll fight for playing time, no doubt, but that’s no bad thing.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Belanger is signed and Flash is traded, MP and MJ would seem to be the two candidates for 2C. Laich could always step in if needed, but I would see one of them taking the spot in that scenario.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Assuming the deal goes through, Belanger becomes the second best center on the roster, by a pretty clear margin. And the Caps still have a top-nine center spot to fill, so they can give Marcus Johansson and Perreault their chance without having to put them in the lineup.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were we really that impressed by belanger? in his tryout last season with us? I thought he wasn’t very good to be honest.

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought he was serviceable, and what he really brings to the table is good PK (which we need).

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mediocre PK, but better than some of the other options.

Where I really like him is at ES, centering a 3rd line that forechecks, grinds and scores a bit.

Belanger is a much better option at 3C than rolling the dice with MP or Mackan, imo.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belanger centering Fehr and Chimera was nails, as I recall.

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by cuqui on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were we really that impressed by belanger?

No, we just don’t think much of the current roster centers

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Impressed enough to think he’s a better option in the top nine than David Steckel, yes.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He can win faceoffs, play D, and pull out his own teeth on the bench to get back in the game. The Caps need some vets like him, both on and off the ice.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

VERY TRUE. He was only marginally better, if not the exact same, as BMo for us, stat’s-wise. And he didn’t produce in the playoffs like we wanted, either (albeit it was a very small sample size). May not be worth $1.85 million, being that his tryout more or less was a fail. Of course in this free agent market… who knows?

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like to see what he can do here when he has a training camp to spend with the Caps. Going from Minnesota to Washington is about as big a system change as you can get, and he wasn’t given that long to adapt.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If GMGM thinks Perreault might not pan out at the NHL level, Belanger buy Johansson some time to adjust to the western game in the AHL rather than rushing him onto the roster before he’s ready.

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by iwearstripes on Aug 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This news seems to dim the chance of Mitchell.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Why?

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by cuqui on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless the thought is getting a D-man in trade for Flash, I suppose.

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by cuqui on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, why wouldn’t we? We’re already stacked with F’s all the way down to Hershey. D was, is, and will continue to be our main issue until we address it fully. What moves have we made to “improve” that area? Adding some great people (like Alzner and Carlson who are going to rock it next season) may add some flare and hope, but it also adds a lack of experience and leadership on the back end.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just beware of throwing bodies at the problem without thinking as so many are inclined to do.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong
D was, is, and will continue to be our main issue until we address it fully.

Nope. Until we’ve got someone who can play a passable scoring line center behind Backstrom in the lineup, that will continue to be our greatest need, with D coming in a distant second.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree

They’re both glaringly huge issues. The D-man problem supersedes the 2C one in my book because it’s existed much longer than a half a season. BMo was a temporary fix that broke down mid-way through last season. A solid top-4, shutdown Blueliner has been our nagging issue for many a moon. Sorry bro.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could have really used that shutdown guy vs. the Habs because

oh wait

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just because the Caps never got past the Habs and thus didn’t get a chance to play a team that could exploit their D doesn’t mean the D wasn’t a problem. 2C is a bigger problem, but just because it wasn’t exposed doesn’t mean that the D doesn’t need help.

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by Killer_Carlson on Aug 12, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree here.

With legit talent at C and a 6th D, this team could contend for a Stanley Cup.

With Duncan Keith [or insert your “shutdown D” of choice] and Flash and MJ90 at C, this team has no chance.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Let’s just say for the sake of argument that our best defenseman or our best center go down for the year with an injury. Which damages our chances more?

What was our problem last year against the Habs, our inability to keep the puck out of our net, or our inability to generate offense outside of the top line and Boyd Gordon?

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by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s too subjective because it implicates our problem was on the first line.

One of the major issues that plagued us in that series was a coach who didn’t even realize his team needed a different strategy until after Game 7 was finished, one who proceeded to idiotically attempt to put run-and-gun offensive pressure against a vastly superior defensive trap system. In the playoff situation, 99 times out of a 100 a better D will yield greater results than a better offense.

Pittsburgh only scored one more goal than we did and still failed in Game 7. Was it their offense? No. Anyone can tell you how much they missed Hal Gill and Rob Scuderi this post season and their UFA acquisitions just exemplify that fact.

Put Laich back in 2C and see him flourish as he anchors Semin (who’s a natural LW) and Fehrsie. Then trade the ever-loving crap out of Flash to grab a real shut-down defenseman. Either way, we should send Tomas down to the ECHL or have him be the new Assistant to the Equipment Manager (though he’ll never clear waivers ;o)

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You said:

That’s too subjective because it implicates our problem was on the first line.

I said:

What was our problem last year against the Habs, our inability to keep the puck out of our net, or our inability to generate offense outside of the top line and Boyd Gordon?

Comparing how Pittsburgh lost to Montreal to how we lost to Montreal is useless from the perspective of analyzing what went wrong with THIS team. Pittsburgh may have missed Gill and Scuderi. The Caps, however, missed some semblance of scoring from their second line. These are two totally different problems.

Put Laich back in 2C and see him flourish as he anchors Semin

Laich has never flourished at 2C. What makes you think he’ll start doing so now?

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by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d have to go with D’ohboy. The defense wasn’t the main weakness last season, 2C was. The defense does need to improve more, but 2C really hasn’t been addressed yet. IMO, if we had a good 2C, we’d have beaten Montreal.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last season should be read as “the playoffs last season”. Which is what I was thinking about when I typed that.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe we’re trading for a defender rather than signing an FA like Mitchell.

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by bigonetimer on Aug 12, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle is credible, but Mirtle is quoting Belanger, who is not. I’m not saying Belanger is lying — I’m saying I don’t trust Belanger to have understood what McPhee has in mind.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I rescind that. I seriously doubt Belanger told Mirtle that Fleischmann was on the block. Mirtle must have another source.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t see how. $1.85 + Mitchell (figure Mitchell for $3M or less) is doable for the Caps.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially if the Caps move Fleischmann.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly so.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitchell for 3M leaves 440k-ish in cap space.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 words: Bonus Cushion

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s not how McPhee rolls. he ain’t going to screw next year’s cap.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

It only screws next year’s cap if you dont have anyone go LTIR and he hits his bonus #s.

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And if the Caps go over the cap.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

They may well be moving someone as well and $3M was a high figure (I always round up when figuring rough numbers). If they move Flash as part of the trade, then that number becomes $3M.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see the problem, but maybe I’m missing something. First move is adding Belanger’s 1.85, assuming that’s what it is. If Flash goes out in a trade for D, what’s the net addition to the cap, another million at most (2.6 vs 3.6)? There’s still a decent amount of space. And if we’re bringing in a defenseman, one of Sloan/Erskine is moving to Hershey (so subtract Sloan’s 700,000).

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that’s what I’m getting at. That’s what I’m trying to explain. I think there’s space.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we have $5.8M in cap space. $1.85M for Belanger and $3M for Mitchell (which is much more than I think he’ll get, unless a large portion is in bonuses) would leave almost $1M – and that’s assuming no other moves are made.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

$5.3M per Capgeek.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah… misremembered it. The 8 was a bit later in the number.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

No worries.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

e5! e5! e5!

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by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marc Staal is being mentioned in a lot of tweets. The Rangers have had trouble signing him. 3 burning questions…

1) What would need to be packaged with Flash for M. Staal?

2) What would it take for the capsto sign him to a contract?

3) How quickly would F&B’s head explode after seeing Staal on the back of a Caps jersey?

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 12, 2010 1:01 PM EDT reply actions  

He’d go crazy and then realize that it’s not Eric. Then go crazy after the fact that he has a Staal Brother on his team.

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by Kevin Sellathamby on Aug 12, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it’s my understanding that Marc is the one he’s rather bullish on.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we’re mostly fans of the middle Staal, here, i think. I’d love to have Marc in DC.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

At bare minimum, he’d be an upgrade over me for the Rink pickup games.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s see, right now the Caps’s 6th defenseman is either Erskine or Sloan… yeah, Marc Staal is an upgrade over that.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frak, yes.

Staal (based on my memory alone) becomes Top 4 on this team.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

He plays top pair with Green if he is here.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cool, thanks.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Puck Prospectus or Mirtle or someone had him as the best defensive defenseman in the game in 2010.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

For that reason, would be stunned to see the Rangers let him go. Only way would be if he’s asking for the sun and the moon in negotiations and New York gets a stud in return.

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by James Mirtle on Aug 13, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Marc Staal would be grand theft defenseman if we managed him for flash. He’d be #2 or 3, easy.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think F&B would be ok with this particular Staal. Of all of them, he seems less inclined to be disillusioned with Marc.

The big question is how Staal and Semin might react to being teammates after the… well, you know what…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think I’ve been pretty clear that Marc Staal is the least contemptible of the bunch and I would love to have him on the Caps.

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by Rob Parker on Aug 12, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s also the least goofy looking. even if he did get his ass kicked by semin.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have been. Sorry I was just having some fun

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 12, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’d get the band back together!

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by oldemystix on Aug 12, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I would be shocked if it were Staal. A lot would have to go to New York, and it’d take a lot to sign him. Seems more like guesswork of the “the Caps don’t have a vet goalie so they’re in the mix for Turco! I mean Neimi! I mean Theodore again!” and “every Russian is going to sign in Washington” variety.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. I don’t think its likely, just thought it interesting it was mentioned in a string of tweets.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 12, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read on BSB that Staal isn’t too happy in NYR, or at least could be happier elsewhere. Not sure if that was real or speculation though.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Beware of that. I saw one that had Fleischmann and Schultz going for Staal. The Rangers are over the Caps when bonuses are figured in, and Staal is not part of that calculation. TF and JS would add $5.3 million to their payroll. Even if they demote Redden, they’d be over the cap. They would have to still move a fairly big number. Does that number come with Staal as part of such a deal?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention the personnel side of it. You’d be swapping out Staal for Schultz, and the only compensation for doing so is a year of Fleischmann? Doesn’t make sense.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, remember… this is the team that thought $1.625 million worth of Derek Boogaard was a good idea. “Sense” ain’t in their vocabulary.

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by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Caveat: not sure the cap situation works out for the Rangers to pull this off. Viz., the Rags have 6 D on their roster currently, with one being Wade Redden and hiss $6.5M cap hit. I expect they demote Redden, and end up with about $5M in cap space to play with (NIC bonus cushion). So the Rangers would have to add 2 D with the +/- $2.5M that Flash would leave them.

I imagine Flash + a prospect gets it done.

Staal probably settles for $3.5M/year to sign.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’d have to be a hell of a prospect.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was based on my evaluation of him as 3 or 4 on the depth chart, which SME and DP have corrected me on. So belay that trade proposal. Which makes it that much more unlikely it gets done.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love this unreasonably.

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by WordsOnIce on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does he have two sunglasses? Are they like matryoshka dolls?

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by oldemystix on Aug 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he wears the one pair at night?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ripoff of Robert Stack in “Airplane”.

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by cuqui on Aug 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does he have two sunglasses?

Because he is Horatio….that’s why.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute...

I thought this was the guy from CSI Miami. I’m so confused right now.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is… and his name is Horatio. :)

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alas, poor Yorick.

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by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

A man of infinite jests…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sweet… I’m a huge fan of Horatio Sams. Except when he talks or tries to tell a joke.

Looks like he’s lost some weight…

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

made my night, thanks

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by xa2173 on Aug 12, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just for fun:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Mike Knuble ($2.800m) / Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Eric Fehr ($2.200m)
Brooks Laich ($2.066m) / Boyd Gordon ($0.800m) / Dave Steckel ($1.100m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.716m) / D.J. King ($0.637m)
/ Marcus Johansson ($0.900m) /
/ Eric Belanger ($1.850m)

DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Tom Poti ($3.500m)
Jeff Schultz ($2.750m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)
John Erskine ($1.250m) / John Carlson ($0.845m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m) / Willie Mitchell ($3.500m)

GOALTENDERS
Semyon Varlamov ($0.821m) /Michal Neuvirth ($0.821m)

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SALARY CAP: $59,400,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,298,463; BONUSES: $850,000
CAP SPACE (24-man roster): $951,537

I’m thinking Mitchell will sign for, after easily-attainable bonuses, about what he made last year.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I know an easy way to get that cap space to ~1.6M without hurting the roster…

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don’t see the Caps running with 14 forwards and also 8 D — not if any healthy scratches are young players who would do better getting experience in the A. But it’s cool to see that they can. More to the point, the team has flexibility if someone is hurt for 3 games so they’re not on LTIR, but they still need to be replaced in the lineup.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on man, use the cap calculator to move guys into their real lines. Don’t make me do it in my head.

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by Rob Parker on Aug 12, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I started, but it was more trouble than it’s worth. No matter what I did with this roster, folks would disagree.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can Chimer play Center?

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh…. NO!

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn’t think so… which is why the Cap scenario confused me.

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Warning: Post may contain pipe dream.

If they hide Niemi in the minors, the Hawks can afford Flash and Belanger for Sharp.
/doublerainbow

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Sorry, meant Huet.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they were going to trade Sharp, they would have done so already and re-signed Niemi

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Double rainbow all the way!

by Adam Banks on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

C’mon Ginger swap!

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by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Is the middle Staal a ginger, too?

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorta.

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by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Any scenario that gets rid of Flash is a win in my books.

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See, I’m not completely on board with that. I’m more than happy to move him if the return is good, but I’m comfortable with him playing wing here in Washington. I’m not comfortable with him as a center solution.

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by winterion on Aug 12, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed, he isnt worth the money we are paying him but he is still a solid nhl player. There is also something to be said of keeping guys together for chemistry.

I trade him and a prospect for a top 4 D (alzner/carlson are great but lets remember they are still very young so as a 3rd pair they are great, playing against a top line,as a 2nd pair has to do on the road, may still be tough).

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

now That’s Funny!!!

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by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aside from the gag on the commercial, that was my exact thought.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh come on...

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s gonna need a ranch dressing holder…A really big ranch dressing holder.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are the Ameritel triplets in this scenario?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off somewhere being creepy, saying the same sentences at almost the exactly the same time.

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by Hooks Orpik on Aug 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok we have an E-Class Mercedes, a large cup holder filled with ranch dressing and the Ameritel Triplets….

That may be the very definition of creepy…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tupac on the radio…

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by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Gary Glitter, your choice…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t worry: it’ll progress from creepy to kinky in about 3 years.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

cue the 70’s sound track…

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by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t pull your love out on me honeyyy

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

If. I. Saaaaiiiiiid you had a beautiful body
Would you hold it against me?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see it now. They’re standing in front of the elevator saying, “and as the Ameritel triplets, we know quality blood.” And then the elevator opens and it’s just a wave of red…

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha ha ha… BB is such a terrible actor. I love him!

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by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calgary people, Calgary. The Flames have 8 1-way defenseman signed, and need to get rid of someone. Regher or Sarich. You heard it here first.

by marks4java on Aug 12, 2010 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

i was waiting for someone in this forum to mention calgary…. havent we been hearing about how they’re desperate to drop a d or two (especially with news that little kronwall is going to europe due to logjam)…. as long as we’re talking about Staal, i throw Regher’s name in the ring too.

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by bigity b on Aug 12, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Regher mentioned on another blog as possible return talent for the Caps.

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by iwearstripes on Aug 12, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lil’Wall went back to Europe? SEL?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

i read on ESPN rumors page that because he couldnt/wouldnt crack the top 6 (and possibly top 8) with Cal + his 1-way contract = he wanted to play in Europe which for some odd reason lit a fire under Calgary to clear their logjam

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by bigity b on Aug 12, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

You heard it here first.

e4? e5?!?!

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d take Regher in a heart-beat.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

He has an NTC.

We’re more likely to get Steve Staios or Ian White.

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as it’s not Souray I’m fine.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s like a broken, geriatric Mike Green on Lipitor.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not that I’m arguing for Regehr or anything, but I disagree with discounting trade possibilities solely because a player has a NTC or NMC. There are 2 sides to every contract, and moving to washington isn’t exactly like moving to Edmonton. I would guess there are MANY players that would waive NMCs if the team came to them and said “we have an offer from the Caps”.

by GusDaMan on Aug 12, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scott Walker: It felt like winning the lottery

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bieksa looks more likely than Staal, as Flash trade return goes, just in terms of the salary cap. With about $1M in savings in Flash vs. Bieksa, and Salo on LTIR, they get under the cap.

As far as personnel…do the ’Nucks need a scoring winger?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Weren’t they second in GF on the season last year?

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Second or third, with Chicago being the other. They’re not hurting up front…although Flash would be a scary compliment to the Sedins. He’s definitely got more skills than Alex Burrows and the Sedins turned Burrows into scorer…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Sedins turn Flash into a scoring threat out west, by all means, let them.

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Burrows also is willing to play a game that meshes better with the Sedins than Flash’s would.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

second. 3.27 Goals for last season. Chicago, Vancouver, and Pittsburgh round out your top 5. no one else cracked 3 goals per game, btw.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Imploring the gods

To give me a Trans Am or second line center in a trade involving Flash
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by sydtron on Aug 12, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I am wery excite.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I lol’d

"Those things happen in sport," McPhee said. "It's not like it's anything chronic."

by bigonetimer on Aug 12, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

“We are not in discussions with the Capitals about Tomas Kaberle,” Burke said. “Not once.”

from miss katie carrera

Live every week like its Matt Bradley week.

by CarltonBanks on Aug 12, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

…which comes from Mirtle in the story linked to.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOS LINKS!!!!

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

^—- made me laugh unexpectedly loud in the office.

by MetalCap on Aug 12, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, at least if nothing else happens today, we have a nice selection of CI comments to make fun of

belanger suck and i don’t want him back in the least.

but at least if it gets Flash out of here it may be a good thing

AS LONG AS THE DMAN COMING BACK IN THE TRADE IS CLOSER TO A VOLCHENKOV TYPE INSTEAD OF A FRIGGIN CORVO

kaberle can’t clear the table much less the crease, he better be going to another team that actually needs him.
If Kaberle comes to this team I will literally implode! He is the last type dman that we need, we already have a few that are just like him…..all finesse, no physicality.
Maybe we’ll trade for Jurchina again.

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

If Kaberle comes to this team I will literally implode! He is the last type dman that we need, we already have a few that are just like him…..all finesse, no physicality.

I guess that means that if Kaberle comes to the team, we have one fewer idiot wearing red. Every cloud has a silver lining.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Well technically those are similar comments to what is being expressed here, just at a lower level of grammar, spelling, and thoughtfulness.

by Stormblue on Aug 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a lot less invective.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That first one was me.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude….you can write better than that. You know you can. Seriously. CI gets a bad rap around here for exactly that reason. You don’t sound intelligent when you talk like that.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

…I shoulda known. My bad, I missed.

It’s true that the sentiments being expressed aren’t that different, just a lot less rationally. And more people are OK with Belanger coming back.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Katie was complaining just this morning that she hates August because it’s a dead month for hockey. So, blame her.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Juice one was funny, if misspelled.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they did it seriously, it’s the greatest comment of all time

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

It did crack me up.

by TFG on Aug 12, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what there is to make fun of. A Caps fan is a Caps fan is a Caps fan, and these points are rampant throughout Japers’, albeit expressed more intelligently. Have we really become grammar nazis?

That said – I kind of agree with the first point about Belanger, but with the understanding that there aren’t many stellar options at 3C. He was a massive disappointment to me last year. He couldn’t hit the back of the net if he fell out of a boat. (That’s the expression, right?)

by Alex Reed on Aug 12, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

To compare apples to oranges, I was more pleased with Belanger than I was with Corvo.

by mch on Aug 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not a grammar thing, it’s more of a “LOL at those guys” thing.

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hence

if Schultz developed a mean streak and didn’t mind being the “bad guy” here and there, he’d be a lot more effective in playoff type games. But he lacks that attitude you need to play that way. Some players relish getting under the skin of opposing stars and getting them off their game (i.e. Pronger, Regehr)

twitter? criminy man!

I’d accept a trade for Bieksa for Chimera. Then accept another trade for Flash and Schultz for Giordano.

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flash and Schultz for Giordano?

Double facepalm for that one.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree re Schultz. He’s a good player, but if he played with an attitude, I think he could be even better. Then again, maybe it would take away from his mental game, which is so important.

Chimera, Fleischmann, and Schultz for a combination of Bieksa and Giordano would make the Capitals a much, much worse team.

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belanger is a legit answer if your question is “who plays 3C”.

If he’s your 2C, you’re screwed.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Preach it.

It takes...something? Anything?!?

by Bald Pollack on Aug 12, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stare at that long enough and it’s quite creepy.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

particularly when the website itself highlights misspelled words for you

Why (and how) have I not noticed this functionality?

by Yoshietree on Aug 12, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

What browser are you using? I’m using Firefox…

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

No little red squigglies?

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

on the caps roster page it lists a dman named Brian Fahey. I don’t recall hearing his name in the past few months. When did the caps sign him? Could he be someone that we’re trading for ( part of a package I hope).

Thanks.

by vt caps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He is an AHL’er they signed for depth in Hershey, IIRC

All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

by sydtron on Aug 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a guy for Hershey

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

career AHLer… has never dressed for an NHL game

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

 Thanks. I didn’t remember that signing but I feel better.

by vt caps fan on Aug 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Guess I have to fire up the ol’ tweetdeck

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i hate

teases like this on a very very slow work day…. kind of reminds me of almost exactly a year ago when we thought Circles was going to Russia, err i mean sweden, err i mean AHL, err i mean Russia again, aaarrrggghhhh!!!!

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by bigity b on Aug 12, 2010 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

this tease is not helping me get to the bookstore.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You left out Finland

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

@mirtle: Capitals GM George McPhee declines to comment on Belanger.

Shocker!

by MetalCap on Aug 12, 2010 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, he didn’t say no.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Aug 12, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The question is: is the belanger deal signed with a clause saying that the deal only becomes valid if the caps trade flash in the next e.g. 72 hours

or is it that they agreed to terms but either side can still back out even if flash is traded

"Have you ever played?" "Yes, I was a goalie"

by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

In business you could do something like an exploding offer that lasts for a period of time with all the terms that have been agreed to.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think a deal is a deal with Belanger, GMGM just doesn’t want trading partners to know he’s got a logjam if he doesn’t move Flash.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Likely a verbal agreement contingent on the trade.

I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.

by iwearstripes on Aug 12, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent point, actually.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know he’s pissed that another trade has been scooped.

Watching the O’s try to use strategy is like watching Mike Green trying to figure out the difference between "your" and "you’re"--Terpgrrl
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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. McPhee’s been in Washington for awhile. The first response to any question generally is “No Comment”.

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I can neither confirm nor deny…”

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Mistakes were made…”

Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

“We had to destroy Tomas Fleischmann in order to save him.”

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

“Read my lips. No new taxes.”

A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory

by Rather Bengt on Aug 12, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I did not have sex with that Czech”

by DonCaps819 on Aug 12, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will take it, fixes our 3C problem, now lets see what the rade is/could/would have been/is

by jeff550 on Aug 12, 2010 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

We have 3C problems?

Twitter!!!1
Reppin' Team Tyler yo.

by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. We have 6 of them.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Caps have several guys who can play there, but none who are ideal. I would think one of them could move at some point, but I don’t know how much the Caps would get in return (Laich aside, because he won’t be moved).

by David Getz on Aug 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belanger’s the perfect 3C! Agree that the others aren’t ideal, but some of them are good enough that other upgrades should take priority imo.

And yes, I know that we don’t know what the final deal is. I was just being a punk.

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course some of us thought MP could be the perfect 3C playing consistently with Chimera and Fehr. I was looking forward to it. Depending on what we get back for Flash though I can’t really complain. Belanger’s playoff cred was established with me this past year, minus any scoring but I can’t really get on his case for that when guys making far more bank than him to put the puck in the net were failing just as bad.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

macan, MP, steck, flash/bellanger, naybe Brooks Laich, is Keith Aucoin still around anywhere? Maybe we could sign jeff halpern.

"Have you ever played?" "Yes, I was a goalie"

by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Don’t forget Boyd!

by Ginga on Aug 12, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kane or Gordon?

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Aug 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ha ha ha…

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oil Can.

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either one is the perfect #7 MVC.

It takes...something? Anything?!?

by Bald Pollack on Aug 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

…in da hand is woyt two in da bush.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boyd Aviation

find your own...

by NJNJ on Aug 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but unfortunately Aucoin’s skillset didn’t translate well last few years when he had his call-ups. Wouldn’t look for much from him.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont look for much from anyone on that list as a center. Flash and laich are good wings

"Have you ever played?" "Yes, I was a goalie"

by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Laich is a much better 2C than Flash ever was.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither of them is a good option, and the Caps would be foolish to think they were.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Caps would be foolish to think they were.

Not as friggin’ foolish to think that either Mackhan or MP can anchor our second line. That’s just fanciful idiocy. You mean to tell me SME that you’d take an AHL call-up who couldn’t stay around due to a lack of production or an unproven, total gamble over a guy who went 23-30-53 as a 2C who continues to improve at the NHL level?

Now that’s foolish.

"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak

by Scoops on Aug 12, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is also foolish. It’s also nowhere to be found in or inferred from my post. My feelings regarding Laich/Flash at 2C are irrelevant when discussing the possibility of MarJo/MP at 2C.

I suggest you ease up there a bit, and address what I said. And if you watched the circus that was Fleischmann at 2C this past season, or Laich at 2C any time he’s been there, you’d realize they aren’t good options if the Caps wish to go anywhere in the playoffs.

I’ve always been a proponent of trading for someone from outside the organization (Sharp), because as of now, the Caps do not have an adequate 2C under contract.

The guy is Peter Schumpmaker. Lord knows what a schump is, but you can bet your bippy his ancestors made them. What he's doing is far worse than crafting fine schumps.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Aug 12, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Katie:

Update
Just heard from Belanger’s agent, Joe Tacopina, who said he can’t confirm anything at this time about whether the free-agent center will be returning to Washington or not. More to come.

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

You don’t think it’d be something like a sign-and-trade…?

by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If a team is willing to give a player up for nothing, why wouldn’t they trade for a draft pick and sign Belanger on their own? then they at least get a draft pick out of the deal

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → b a (select) start

by renstar on Aug 12, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that even legal in the NHL?

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

DJ King was essentially a sign-and-trade.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blues did it with DJ King.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard the Blues did a sign and trade with DJ King

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Echo. Echo. Echo.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

All that means is we have a bunch of smart people who all hang out here and respond to questions quickly. but it’s a hoot when it happens. Which seems to be a lot lately.

"It's always good to have vikings."

Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.

by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

since I’m part of this recent echo – highly rec’d.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No point, there isn’t anything like the Bird exemption in the NHL CBA where a team can re-sign players for more than a FA can get.

"Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly, 'No chance you metal ba****d.'"

by apk3000 on Aug 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the Bird Rule was about being able to exceed the salary cap in order to sign their own FA’s?

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right…the player can get a higher salary signing with his own team than he can with another via free agency. So, the original team signs him at this higher salary, then trades him to the new team. The result is that the play still ends up on the new team, but makes more money.

by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Aug 12, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s an update?

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s get this all tied up before 5:00pm EST, please.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

huh?

@Aviewfromabroad: RT : Almost done: Bieksa to Washington for Chimera (+ pick), Washington then announces signing of Belanger …

by bodyodor on Aug 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

beat me to it.

Don’t like this at all if its the case.

by MetalCap on Aug 12, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes no selse to me. McPhee wrangled hard to get Chimera in the first place, IIRC.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could This Be Real?
@Aviewfromabroad: RT : Almost done: Bieksa to Washington for Chimera (+ pick), Washington then announces signing of Belanger …

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

That makes absolutely no sense. There’s no way McPhee gives up Chimmer after working so hard to get him lsat season.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should have looked at “Aviewfromabroad’s” site. No way this is real. Retweeted without a source.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good. I wonder if this is wishful thinking on a Canuck fan’s part.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Location: Lotus Land”

Oooooookaaaaaaay, then.

Think we can ignore this one.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all JP’s fault.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know about "Lotus Land"

Name Frank Krulicki
Bio Hockey nut, movie/tv buff, writer, pastor…rumor monger LOL

by bilspacecadet on Aug 12, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

is it just me, or does being a rumor monger seem to be at odds with being a pastor?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I grew up a pastor’s kid. Let me just say that if you can be a pastor, you can be a politician.

by Capcrazy77 on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re thinking of mongLer.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same guy also tweeted:

Um, I think Belanger is waiting for Bieksa to be moved before the Canucks announce their signing of him.

by Eggseronius on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was he working so hard to get him or shockingly surprised how easy it was to get rid of Clark?

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

With MP then playing 3L?

Not sure that makes a ton of sense for the Caps?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m calling “shenanigans”

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Upon further reflection, this just makes no sense.

A cheap, good guy + pick for an expensive guy, when everyone knows VAN has to drop a defenseman? When Gagne brought back an overpaid journeman + a 4th?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t love it by any means, but I think it’s still an upgrade. I’d be surprised if GMGM traded Chimera.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too. I have to think, like I said, that this is nothing more than wishful thinking on a Canuck fan’s part. They want to get rid of Bieksa.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not be happy with this trade.

by Eggseronius on Aug 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

anyone know who frank krulicki is?

He’s the original tweeter.

by bilspacecadet on Aug 12, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, his Twitter bio says: "Hockey nut, movie/tv buff, writer, pastor…rumor monger LOL "

by Eggseronius on Aug 12, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless they think DJ King can replace what Chimmer brings, to which I say “not a goddamn chance”

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow, I go to lunch and return to this! The rumor mill is in overdrive! And here I thought it was going to be a boring day.

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by bigeugene on Aug 12, 2010 2:44 PM EDT reply actions  

too many rumors, no time for lunch

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess: You guys are going to outnumber our comment section 500 to 1.

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by James Mirtle on Aug 12, 2010 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s because we’re that goddamn awesome

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like your answer better than mine.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle secretly pines for the day when J.P invites him to quit his paying job and blog at the Rink.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s your guess as to the outcome of all this, James?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Forward out, defenceman in?

I had been trying to make sense of this for a little while. Finally just reported what I knew.

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by James Mirtle on Aug 12, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is all your fault.

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven back to Pittsburgh, and hear the lamentations of Sidney Crosby.

by Holt Worth on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So true.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

What can we say? We’re starved for news around here, what with the team doing nothing so far this summer.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, they signed Willsie…

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hershey signings don’t count. Hey, they made a trade, too.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. What’s your take on the Bieksa for Chimera + pick rumor? I don’t think it makes any sense.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes Jim – waddaya got? No need to tweet. Everyone that cares is right here.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle provides the spark, The Rink provides the flame…

That poetry class came in handy after all…

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAAAAAAAAABULOUS

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mirtle provides the spark, The Rink provides the flame, and GMGM moves the flash

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 12, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

queue horatio caine

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on Aug 12, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’re bored. And excited. Flash is much maligned in these parts.

I have a twitter.
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"

by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

borcited!

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

TG&M page hits for your sources. It’s a fair trade.

It takes...something? Anything?!?

by Bald Pollack on Aug 12, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s already getting the hits for free. :(

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That ain’t workin’ that’s the way you do it
Get your money for nothin’ get your hits for free…

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would help you continue the song, but i’ve got to move these refrigerators, along with these color TV’s

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

But, dude, I want my MTV…

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess you could say that ain’t workin’…I mean, lemme tell you…them guys ain’t dumb

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tellin’ ya. Maybe get a blister on your thumb, eh?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or on your little finger.

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

The only other lyrics to that song I can remember are the ones that get me a warning or a ban, so I’m conceding the game to you, sir.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

/cheers

/does the walk of life

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean like, “that little ‘so and so’ with the earring and the makeup? Yeah, buddy, that’s his own hair!”

Taken out of context, they are offensive. But knowing the intentions of the songwriter, they are pretty hilarious.

by S h a g g y on Aug 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That verse is cut out of any version you hear now, especially on their Greatest Hits comp.

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

We know who’s banging on the bongos like a chimpanzee.

by S h a g g y on Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Oh yeah…

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah…

Washington Capitals 2009-10 = Quebec Nordiques 1994-95
--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goddamnit, I was actually getting some work done today! I blame Mirtle for our eroding GDP.

by S h a g g y on Aug 12, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd trade Flash for

What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven back to Pittsburgh, and hear the lamentations of Sidney Crosby.

by Holt Worth on Aug 12, 2010 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Scott Barney plays in the Finnish League.

It takes...something? Anything?!?

by Bald Pollack on Aug 12, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

My own unsubstantiated trade rumor

Semin and Flash for Kovlchuck. Belanger re-signs with Caps (unrelated).

"Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!"

by Tikkanese on Aug 12, 2010 3:04 PM EDT reply actions  

why would we trade for Kovy when he’s a FA?

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by bigity b on Aug 12, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kovy is a UFA.

I have a twitter.
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"

by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve heard Kovalchuk is a Free Agent

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s definitely a UFA.

I have a twitter.
"Victory is sweetest when you've known defeat"

by Ovechwin on Aug 12, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salavat signed him? Oh no!

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

sign-n-trade!

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe we’re trading Flash…for Belanger!

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

....

Perhaps they are!!

Money don't make my world go round...i'm reaching out to a higher ground

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard one about Semin + Flash ffor Bieksa. I damn near laughed out loud.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because VAN can absorb about $5M in additional cap hit, that trade makes too much sense not to do.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has it been announced yet?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

How about now?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now?

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buehler?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are we there yet, Mommy?

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m going to jump ahead a bit here.

Let’s assume Belanger in, a D in, and Flash is gone.

The Caps muddle through January with Belanger, MJ90, MP, and Steckel taking TOI at 2,3 and 4 C spots. Then reassess and either go after another C (a good one, mind you) or a D.

I can live with that.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

totally onboard with a plan like that

plagued by penguins fans at work

by kurlNdrag on Aug 12, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without a real 2C, the team goes nowhere in the playoffs, imo.

But I think they could do well enough to get into January in decent playoff position.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one needs to settle a bit more.

I’m glad Flash is gone. I think Belanger is an upgrade over MP/Steckel/Gordo/Mackan (right now) at 3C, or possibly even 2C.

Depending on the D we get, that ought to be an improvement. Hell, it will be an improvement even if we just shuffle Erskine and Sloan back to the press box and Hershey, respectively.

Still, there’s a part of me that worries about having a second line of Sasha-Belanger-Laich. I think you’ll see a whole lot more of “Fuck it, I got this” Sasha, and a lot less organized team play. As much as I loathed Flash, he was at least another skilled player capable of carrying the puck up ice and his speed allowed him to keep pace with Semin.

I guess much of my opinion on this would depend on the D that comes in return, and what we’re able to get mid-season. If it’s Kaberle or Staios, count me out. If it’s Bieksa or Regehr/White, I’d be more interested. If it’s Staal, I’d do a little dance and make a little love, just generally get down tonight.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Staal would be the A+ answer, but absent a complete braincramp from Sather, I can’t see it happening (so I’m sayin’ there’s a chance).

Can’t see the team being interested in Kaberle or Staios. The other three guys have the primary benefit of bumping Erskine and Sloan as you said. I could live with it.

And I think Belanger is a terrible option at 2C for the playoffs, and even the stretch drive.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

but absent a complete braincramp from Sather

This means there is a great chance of it happening.

"Have you ever played?" "Yes, I was a goalie"

by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sather’s FA moves have been, er, somewhat suspect. But his trade history seems like it’s pretty solid, no?

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say more a random chance. He’s not stupid – I still wanna know what Jedi mind trick he used to get MTL to take Scott Gomez’s contract. But he does do some truly mystifying things.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps the greatest mystery since the building of the pyramids.

I still wanna know what Jedi mind trick he used to get MTL to take Scott Gomez’s contract.

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by smutsboy1 on Aug 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW, same thing was happening with Dubinsky a year or two ago, and Sather got him on the cheap.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does everyone assume Steckel gets the nod over Gordon? Or do you just prefer Gordo on wing? I’m not so sure I prefer Steckel over Gordon.

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by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think in the past when they’ve been on the same line, it’s always Gordon-Steckel-RW, so that’s probably it.

"Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly, 'No chance you metal ba****d.'"

by apk3000 on Aug 12, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordo’s history of being on the shelf.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel always gets the nod over Gordon. I think his career FO % is quite a bit higher.

Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.

by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually their faceoff stats over time are close enough that it shouldn’t be a factor in the decision.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Except for this last season, Steckel’s has always been higher – not much though. Looks like 1-1.5%. The exception is 2006-7, when Steckel had 13% better – but only took 43 faceoffs. So I guess faceoffs isn’t the issue. The only other thing I can think of is Gordon’s back.

When it comes down to it, Steckel at 4C and Gordon on his wing seems to work well enough. Has Steckel played wing often, and has he done well? I never paid much attention to that.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't

But Steckel-Laich-Bradley + Gordon’s injury history

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got the Scoop….Its a sign and trade…Backs, Belanger and Flash for Sid and Staal

by Cap-O-Vens on Aug 12, 2010 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Beautiful.

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by gotsparkly on Aug 12, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marc, Jordan, Eric, or Jared?

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 12, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably all 4.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, their mom, Linda…She is going to keep the Locker room smelling fresh and keep Ovi’s hair groomed with her John Deere….gotta be better then what his mom did with the flowbee last year.

by Cap-O-Vens on Aug 12, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Any chance of her washing Backstrom’s hair?

by mch on Aug 12, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's so nice to dream

This feels like Christmas in August.

by 8vechkin on Aug 12, 2010 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Here’s the shopping list for D-men.

If you’re looking at teams that can use a top-6 forward more than they can use the D-man, and D-men with expiring contracts with salaries in the range that would fit on the Caps, I think you come up with the following list: Bryan McCabe, Roman Hamrlik, Scott Hannan, Eric Brewer, Ian White, Steve Staios, and Brent Sopel

Add in teams that need to clear cap space, and you could add Kevin Bieksa and Christian Erhoff.

Out of that list, the only ones I would maybe want to see on the Caps would be Hannan, Brewer, White, Bieksa, and Erhoff. Staios might be acceptable if he came with a pick, but I’m not sure he’s much better than Erskine at this point. McCabe and Hamrlik might be acceptable if we could get some salary going the other way, but I don’t know who else the Caps would want to give up.

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 3:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Jan Hejda is expiring.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is that Columbus knows they need the D help more than they need a top-6 forward.

We’ve fleeced them before, though. I would love that if it happened.

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess is that Columbus knows they ain’t making the playoffs this year, and are willing to take the young players they can get. (Obviously, Fleischmann isn’t a very good fit for them since he’s a UFA next year)

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but even if that’s the case, they still need good, young defensemen more than they need forward help. The Caps don’t really have any good, young defense prospects that aren’t being mentioned as top-10 most valuable Capitals. They may trade away Hejda; I’m just guessing he won’t be coming to Washington unless it’s at the trade deadline.

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why trade for Bieksa if we could just get Mitchell in FA?

It would seem like we need to get a more established (better) guy to make it worth what we’d give up

by 8vechkin on Aug 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mitchell’s concussion history makes him a real iffy proposition, or so I would guess if I had to explain the reasoning for that choice, if indeed it pans out that way.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we’d need to clear out some bodies? That’s if we’re signing Belanger. And we’d still need to clear out a defenseman.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just ship Sloan to Hershey, right? He gets exposed to waivers, but so what?

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then if (and i really hope not) we needed him later, he’d be exposed to re-entry waivers, and we’d be stuck with part of the salary (and/or cap hit?), right?

↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → b a (select) start

by renstar on Aug 12, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

If $350,000 kills the cap, we’ve got Nylander level problems.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

we ran in to that a few years ago when Clymers 300kish buyout was hosing things up, every dollar matters in the cap era

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by renstar on Aug 12, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

If $350,000 kills the cap, we’ve got Nylander Blackhawk level problems.

FTFY

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--- D'ohboy

by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we can win the cup this year, I’ll take it.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Salary, yes.

I don’t think so on cap hit but would have to call Fishmann (who needs a moniker like GMGM has GMGM, he has totally earned a moniker)

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

They could emergency recall him, I think, and avoid exposing him (I think), but, yeah, there is that risk.

I’d expect that injuries would require the Caps to call him up at least a couple of times. If anyone else wants him, they’re welcome to him, though.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur on the last point, I’m just trying to think if reasons why that move might be actively avoided

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by renstar on Aug 12, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bieksa (3.75M) – Flash (2.6M) = 1.15 M net gain in cap hit for the Capitals.

If you sign Willie Mitchell for one year, 1.5M in salary and another 800k in easily-obtainable bonuses, he’ll have a cap hit of 2.3M. Therefore, the difference between signing Mitchell and keeping Fleischmann and trading Fleischmann for Bieksa is roughly 1.15M.

1.15M cap space to start the season = 4.6M of additional acquisition space at the deadline, which will be fairly valuable, especially if the Caps want to stock up on depth players again.

by Wheeler on Aug 12, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

My prediction

Flash + Belanger for CORVO!

How on earth could corvo on the caps go wrong?

by 8vechkin on Aug 12, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Flash + Belanger for Halpern + Doughty, calling it now

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by sydtron on Aug 12, 2010 3:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Straight up trade? No. Kings would have to give someone up to get Green from me. Doughty may likely be better than Green some day. However for right now even with Green’s terrible play in the Canadiens series still fresh in my mind I wouldn’t ever go straight up. It’d be at least a viable prospect + Doughty.

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by sydtron on Aug 12, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doughty is already as good as Green and is younger. You’d have to be on crack not to trade Green for Doughty straight up.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 12, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

oooh! and Doughty is still cheaper. :D Better value for next season.

by Vinn on Aug 12, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

One solid season isn’t enough to convince me that Doughty is as good as green.

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by sydtron on Aug 12, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about a great Olympics?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

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by DrinkingPartner on Aug 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I would.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 12, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’d have to be on crack not to trade Green for Doughty straight up.

I guess I picked a bad day to give up crack. Call me crazy, but I’d like to see a player have more than one very good season before I trade a two-time Norris finalist and two time first team All-Star for him straight up. Doughty had a very good season last year, but statistically, his numbers paled in comparison to Green’s. And Mike’s put up great numbers for three years. Come back to me in a couple of years and ask me then if I’d trade Green for Doughty. Right now I’ll pass and I haven’t even hit the pipe yet.

by b.orr4 on Aug 12, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I, too, love the crack.

'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...

by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

so far, Green’s superior when it comes to producing offense from the blue line. maybe that will change this season, but I’m comfortable dancing with the devil I know.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Greenie, but I absolutely would.

by Vinn on Aug 12, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would have to change my sbnation screen name and I would still go through that hassle to get doughty.

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by MikeyGreen on Aug 12, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you Vinn. In making the trade, not the MG love.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 12, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it would be Doughty for Doughy?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes.

Want more defense.

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by smutsboy1 on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Easy question…yes. Doughty is Green’s equal right now and will be the best defenseman in the NHL by 2012 (if he isn’t in this coming season…)

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 12, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Green has put up HOF offensive numbers thus far in his career. I don’t think it’s that simple.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

So, anyone bringing this up in the phone-in forum?

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by bagace on Aug 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Good luck. It’s not relevant to the guys in the forum.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Hey Karl, I heard you’re going to be paired with someone the Caps are acquiring today for Tomas Fleischmann. Can you comment on who that will be and how much more value he’ll bring to the team than Fleischmann does?”

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

“No.”

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Karl's Reply

“Hey, GOD, did you know that Fleischmann means “meat-man” in German? Neat, huh?"

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by D'ohboy on Aug 12, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I know. But I wouldn’t put it past someone in queue, considering past call-ins.

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by bagace on Aug 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does NJ have anything we want?

Maybe NJ is trying to dump some salary to make Kovy a new offer?

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by iwearstripes on Aug 12, 2010 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll take a Zajac offa their hands.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re think at C.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

*thin

With Zajac, Arnott, Zubrus basically it.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

well it looks like we’re looking to get a D back, and I can’t really see us wanting any of their blueliners.

by Vinn on Aug 12, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d take Guerin before Arnott.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

No way.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Way. I want a guy that can bring the winning attitude and experience to the Caps. Say what you will about Guerin, but he’s a winner.

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by STLSpidey on Aug 12, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a wing…which the Caps have plenty of.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can anyone explain to me why we’d even want Belanger? He was pretty consistently unimpressive during his time with the Caps, and particularly bad at penalty killing. Why do we want him back?

by katzistan on Aug 12, 2010 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Cheap insurance policy at center?

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by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that’s basically what he was and there was no insurance at all. He didn’t provide any useful support or something a Hershey Bear couldn’t have provided.

Go with MP85 at the start of the season, see what happens. You can always pick up a Belanger-quality player at the deadline if absolutely necessary.

by katzistan on Aug 12, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not trying to justify, just to understand…

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by macvechkin on Aug 12, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Disagree that Belanger is the same value as MP.

We know Belanger is a reasonable 3C. We hope that MP might be.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Belanger is a proven center, but he was moved from a defensive system to an offensive system and didn’t get much time to adapt – only 17 regular season games before the post-season. Given a full training camp, I think he could be a good 3C for the Caps.

As for the PK – again, system change. The Caps play a softer PK than many other teams, including Minnesota.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 12, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but his dental insurance > cap hit. So it’s a wash.

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by snakegriffin on Aug 13, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because it looks like we’re also going to trade Flash when we bring him back.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 12, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the alternatives are worse?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Aug 12, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

is that a ron burgundy impersonation?

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by bigity b on Aug 12, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently Calgary is trying to trade a defenseman, Kronwall is the player in question…

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Aug 12, 2010 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

No, thanks.

Already seen that movie, and I didn’t like it.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 12, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s Staffan, not Nick.

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by red army line on Aug 13, 2010 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Twitter has something interesting, I guess at the very best it keeps us talking…
Chimera+Pick for Bieksa
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Aug 12, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s already been dissected and dismissed further up.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 12, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

woops, didn’t see you guys are alrdy talking about it, sorry

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Aug 12, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I got all excited for nothing :(

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by Knubles and Bits on Aug 12, 2010 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I bet GMGM was so pissed that this got out that he’s not gonna release either one for a week and then wink to the press on Monday and Tuesday morning, Belanger and Defensemen to be named later will be at Kettler.

by MetalCap on Aug 12, 2010 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm so hockey deprived.

I’m loving this speculation.

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by Capsfan07 on Aug 12, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Katie’s got a sort-of update:

Eric Belanger has agreed in principle to a one-year, $1.85 million contract with the Capitals to return to Washington for the 2010-11 season, according to an NHL source with knowledge of the situation.
The deal has been in the works for some time, the source said, adding that the team is indeed waiting to formally announce the signing after making additional roster changes. Despite the wait there is no indication that the Belanger agreement will fall through, the source said.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 12, 2010 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Her tweet:

NHL source confirms Eric Belanger to re-sign with #Caps. Announcement pending other roster changes

Which lines up with Mirtle. Really really really hope it’s Flash and not Chimera.

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by SmallZ827 on Aug 12, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I really hope so, too.

And I just got my mom into hockey last season and Chimera and Backstrom are her favorite players. She would be heart-broken. Please don’t break my mom’s heart GMGM!

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by Knubles and Bits on Aug 12, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too will be pissed if they trade Chimera. He became my favorite Cap to watch on the ice.

by Karl W on Aug 12, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope it’s not Chimera, but frankly as long as it’s not Ovie or Backstrom, I’ll wait to see the return before grabbing a pitchfork. Chimera is one of those guys where it’s hard to imagine another team offering something more valuable to the Caps than he is.

by grapejoos on Aug 12, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will rethink my stance on Friday the 13th if Flash is traded tomorrow…

by DonCaps819 on Aug 12, 2010 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

absolutely no chance Chimera gets traded. He is worth wayy too much to the Caps and has worked out very very well. In the event i am wrong, we must be getting someone pretty good if GMGM ends up trading Chimmer AND Flash

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by kingzman264 on Aug 13, 2010 1:13 AM EDT reply actions  

My money would be on just Flash, or Flash and a pick/prospect. If there is a 3/4D coming back, I think Flash by himself is enough. If a better dman, than add something.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 13, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Argh.. it’s 2 am. Why haven’t they announced it yet?
Seriously, though. Being too sick to sleep.. sucks. =(

Argh.. it’s 2 am. Why haven’t they announced it yet?
Seriously, though. Being too sick to sleep.. sucks. =(Would there be any reason for a GM to hold up and announce multiple players at once? Does it look better? Or, would the reason for this more likely be that Belanger is part of a sign-and-trade? (I guess I’m curious which would make more sense.)

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Damn echo.

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Yea, I also hate when the first words echos hehe

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