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Jason Chimera; Photo by Richard Wolowicz/Getty Images

Your savory breakfast links:

  • "Ranking the Capitals" is back by popular demand, so be sure to check the FanPost sidebar and join in the voting and the discussion.
  • Alex Ovechkin has started his on-ice training for 2010-11. You've been warned, world. [Alex Ovetjkin]
  • Cruisin' with Jason Chimera. [Caps365 (video)]
  • The latest NHL Shop atrocity for ladies isn't the problem - the rest of their catalog is. [Hockey Chronicles]
  • Ten franchise players. [Red Line Station]
  • Eric Fehr will play in the 2010 SuperStar Summer Showdown on Saturday night. [Calgary Sun]
  • Vote Weagle! [Icethetics]
  • Patrick Wey (like Cody Eakin) is looking for a little World Juniors redemption. [NHL.com]
  • At camp, Wey "wasn’t given a lot of ice time but held his own defensively. He closed his gaps well, played with a physical edge and showed decent puck distribution." [Puck Prospectus]
  • Looks like Dean Arsene and Stefan Della Rovere will be teammates this year. [Journal-Star]
  • Former Caps prospect Benjamin Casavant has been traded to Shawinigan. Zzz. [Canada.com]
  • Dale Hunter always gets is man. [LFP]
  • A local kid (McLean's Jay Williams) is reppin' the U.S. of A. as a member of the U-18 squad. [Fairfax Times]
  • Finally, happy 54th birthday to Dave Shand and happy 61st to Larry Fullan.

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For those following, the Capitals logo has made it into Icethetics’ final against Vancouver.
(Wasn’t that Berry Melrose’s Stanley Cup prediction?)

http://www.icethetics.info/vote/2010/8/9/polls-nhltosl-championship.html

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by winterion on Aug 11, 2010 6:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Thanks – I popped it into the post.

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by J.P. on Aug 11, 2010 6:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Haha, sweet. Reminds me of when I’d help bake cookies as a kid.. by opening the bag of chocolate chips and stealing a few. =)

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by winterion on Aug 11, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does voting for Vancouver make me a bad person? I love that logo.

by Alex Reed on Aug 11, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Give me the Bure-era skate any day.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I never put it together that their logo back then was a skate. Mind blown.

Its like when I first realized the Milwaukee Brewers Glove logo was a combination of an M and a B.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 11, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

WHAT. I had never noticed the Brewers thing before. Awesome.

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by SmallZ827 on Aug 11, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

...

Money

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Slightly OT – I used to love the late 70s early 80s baseball logos. And the most garish uniforms known to man. The orange and blue of the Houston Astros. The yellow and brown San Diego Padres jerseys. Or the yellow and black Pittsburgh Pirates uniforms with the round black caps, or as I called them Kent Tekulve hats.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about the old Orioles smiling bird?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which they need to go back to. That was an awesome logo. Same as the brewers with the baseball glove logo. Best baseball logo and they only occasionally use it.

by Capcrazy77 on Aug 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Orioles Smiling Bird

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

That logo blew my mind, too. Here’s another: The Sabres slug logo is a stylized B.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

That one I saw, and the Capitol dome blank space in the Weagle I got pretty quick, but this Brewers thing is killing me.

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by SmallZ827 on Aug 11, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mind Blown.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 11, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

So answer me this:

What the heck does “elb” mean?

by bilspacecadet on Aug 11, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an ‘e’ and an ‘M’.

…whoa, I totally just saw that.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

an e, an M, and a b for “Montreal expos baseball”

by Wheeler on Aug 11, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still looks like elb.

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one said it was a good logo.

by Wheeler on Aug 11, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mind blown even further. I can’t believe I never noticed the M before! I was always looking for “67” in there (because of when Expo was), I just assumed that’s what it was even if I couldn’t see it.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s French for “stop making us trade Marquis Grissom every year”

/obscure?

by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Aug 11, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

French for why couldn’t Vlad Guerrero have come to DC too?

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was EIB, as in “error, 1st base”

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by ThePeerless on Aug 11, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

…oh my god, it IS. I never noticed that!

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I sometimes get stuck behind a Sabres fan with a Sabres logo spare tire cover. Lot of time to ponder its design.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whoa.

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by Scott in Shaw on Aug 11, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a proud owner of that jersey.

The sky is the same color wherever you go.

by Steck It Out on Aug 11, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

not a fan of the colors to be honest. i like the old school c w/ the hockey stick better. however, compared to the howard snepts disco unis, anything is an upgrade..

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Few Upgrades to Harold Snepsts Disco Stache however

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harold Snepsts… he used to get into it with Mario Marois of the New York Rangers when they played each other in the late 1970s… One game, Mario scored a goal for the Rangers, and then skated by the Vancouver bench, where he tossed the puck to Snepsts after scoring it. Needless to say this did not go unnoticed, and the next time Snepsts was on the ice with Mario, he dropped the gloves and went at him. It actually worked out for the Rangers as they were able to score with Snepsts in the box. I don’t think Snepsts got tossed from the game, but eventually Ranger enforcer Nick Fotiu told him to end it. He also, quietly skated over to Mario and told him to end it as well…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good story MikeL, I’ve never heard it before.

Mario Marois was in the news recently in Canada as a small plane crash in Quebec that claimed the lives of seven people happened in the field behind his house.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Small+plane+crashes+Quebec+killing/3190185/story.html

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

that kid is lucky harold didn’t cold cock him for wearing that oilers shirt.

ah, the days of the “harold, harold” chant at the old cap centre….

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

It wasn’t just the Cap Centre….

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually like that logo considerably better than the one that showed up in the contest…

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by IRockTheRed on Aug 11, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting interview on XM Home Ice yesterday on Kovy and the CBA. Check out the interviewie’s blog at sportslawblog.ca and discuss. Meanwhile, I’ll be working outside in this heat. Hahaha

by dlw66 on Aug 11, 2010 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

JP, I call my blog Red Line Station. You listed my name instead. Sorry to be nitpicky.

I was looking through SI’s gallery of the biggest deals in NHL history. First, they say Redden’s deal isn’t the worst the Rangers did, and since Gomez appears later, I guess they’re saying his deal is the worst (but as KNtaD will tell you, Gomez is still a good player because he cancels tough competition and drives Corsi). I think Redden’s is worse.

Then they leave out Backstrom.

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by red army line on Aug 11, 2010 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh, heh, should have gone further, since Holik’s deal is atrocious. I never even knew that deal existed.

Caps-Jagr of course comes in too.

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by red army line on Aug 11, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad – I was Russian, err, rushin’ this morning. I’ll change it.

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by J.P. on Aug 11, 2010 7:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I can’t think of Redden now without thinking of Down Goes Brown Amazon.com Wade Redden ad.

I believe in JC.

by patred48 on Aug 11, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

This one is new, but I wonder how long it’ll be before OFB’s intern is fired for posting good sense? (OFB)

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by gotsparkly on Aug 11, 2010 7:49 AM EDT reply actions  

I wonder how long an adult writing for a blog will allow himself to be referred to as “Intern.”

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by J.P. on Aug 11, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much of that is that he doesn’t always follow the party line (as here).

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by gotsparkly on Aug 11, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

How long did Michael J. Fox play youngsters?

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by ThePeerless on Aug 11, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

He still looks like a kid to me. With a few wrinkles, but very boyish looking.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 11, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Google cache that shiz, yo!

It takes...something? Anything?!?

by Bald Pollack on Aug 11, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Color me unimpressed.

The final no-brainer move Washington appears poised to make this fall is with the promotion of Mathieu Perreault to fill a major hole.
Even guys who have spent much of their career in the NHL haven’t been able to center a second line, and there is no proof yet that Matty can either.

So if we don’t know if Perreault can fill the major hole, how is this a no-brainer move?

Some guys who bear relatively modest numbers in hockey’s second-best league make the jump and just catch lightning in the proverbial bottle. They play bigger in the big league than numbers alone would seem to indicate they should. That sure seems like what happened in 2009-10 with Matty.

If Perreault’s 9 points in 21 NHL games really was “bigger than his AHL numbers would seem to indicate” that Perreault should be able to do at the NHL level, then there’s no way he should even be sniffing the 2C. 9 in 21 projects out to 34 points. I don’t think we’d be very happy with a 34 point second line center. I’d like my 2C to be doing at least better than a point every two games. (Of course, Perreault’s AHL numbers actually suggest he may have more upside — Perreault had 50 points in 56 regular season games with Hershey, and more importantly, 19 points in 21 playoff games.)

Perreault might be the answer, he might not. But at least look at his actual stats before crowning him a no-brainer.

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by Gould Old Days on Aug 11, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

BMo finished the year with 42 pts and he’s gone.

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think anybody should be reasonably expecting MP to come in and start as the second center. Third center, yes please. Could he work his way up? Yes.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

The “SuperStar Summer Showdown on Saturday night” – holy alliteration, Batman!
At first I was worried that this was some sort of MMA thing, since Ferhsie’s into that. But then I found this:

The Believe in the Goal Foundation Inc. was established by Todd Davison in 2006. While fighting his own personal battle with a rare form of cancer, Todd started Believe to raise funds to help young local cancer victims. The inaugural SuperStar Summer Showdown game featuring many of Todd’s hockey community teammates was played in August 2006. As a result of the players’ charity and participation in the annual game, Invitational Golf Tournament and supporting Foundation events, Believe has raised nearly $250,000 to date. The Foundation’s mission is to make a tangible difference in the lives of young kids and adolescents battling through the various stages of cancer via "Comfort and Care" initiatives, events and programs.

Good for Eric (and the rest of the players).

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by bagace on Aug 11, 2010 8:21 AM EDT reply actions  

The game is actually tomorrow night. Today they get out their sticks and play a little golf.

Other Caps playing in hockey tourneys this week: Tomas Fleischmann is playing with Jagr, Kaberle, Plekanec, and a bunch of the Czech all-stars today, Nicky/Foppa/Naslund have two more Icebreakers games, and Dmitri Orlov and Geno Kuznetsov are playing for Team Russia in a friendly three-game tournament with France. Dima got a helper in his game yesterday.

I’m hoping I’ll be able to find some pix of Flash’s game. On the plus side, I guess that means he didn’t get another blood clot!

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve got a nifty website http://www.believeinthegoal.com/index2.html

And I kinda wish Delly was still a Cap, ’cos his charity tournament “Hockey Night in Barrie” not only features his Member of Parliament, but also the Prime Minister. Stephen Harper is making his first visit to Barrie EVER for this event.

Oh well. Sayonara SDR.

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stephen Harper, ugh.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calle Jarnkrok, Detroit: Jarnkrok had a great game versus the US and had quite a few quality scoring chances. He anticipated the play well and jumped at the puck when he got his chances. He showed quality puck skills and his speed created space for him. Calle sniped a goal past Zane Gothberg from the left circle.

Kuznetsov doesn’t look like a bad choice, but dammit.

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by Knee high to a duck on Aug 11, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Yup. Wanted that guy bad.

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by J.P. on Aug 11, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I swear, that passage is from the lost books of the Lord of the Rings.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Aug 11, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

“To get the ring to Mordor, Frodo, you must carry it across the plains of Jarnkrok and through the Gothberg Wood….”

Oh yeah….

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a beautiful goal. I watched both games between USA-Småkronorna and he had a great tournament. I will definitely make the trip to Gävle a couple of times this season to watch him play.

Just thinking about what he will be able to do with those hands and that hockey sense when he fills out some more makes me drool. He weights in at 165 lbs (if that) and the way he handled playoff hockey against man while weighting practically nothing..
Sigh.

Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.

by Malin A on Aug 11, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just thinking about what he will be able to do with those hands and that hockey sense when he fills out some more makes me drool. He weights in at 165 lbs (if that) and the way he handled playoff hockey against man while weighting practically nothing..
Sigh.

Mathieu Perreault?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

If MP was that good at 18 Caps wouldn’t have a 2C problem and we wouldn’t have anything to talk about.

Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.

by Malin A on Aug 11, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a little joke, folks.

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m willing to bet that Järnkrok will become one of your favorite players in a couple of years, he is just your type. We have very similar taste when it comes to hockey players, you like Bäckström, Forsberg, W Simmonds and Omark right?

Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.

by Malin A on Aug 11, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sure do!

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Utmärkt smak!
It’s to bad for Omark that he have so many great new players ahead of him on the depth chart in Edmonton; Eberle, Hall, Pääjärvi-Svensson, Giroux…..
I’m having a Omark day today after I re-watched this. Maybe the best music choice in hockey-highlight-history.

Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.

by Malin A on Aug 11, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jarnkrok is already taller than MP will ever be, fwiw.

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by J.P. on Aug 11, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

So is my 8-month-old niece.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Oooh, that’s mean!

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 11, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Shand...

He was a player I grew up liking when I was a kid about 13 years old. He was just starting out with Atlanta, and remember, when I was growing up, the Atlanta Flames were on TBS both home and away, so I got to see 70 or so Flames games and only 30 Ranger and Islander games on TV (The Rangers and Islanders only televised away games, home games were on pay-per-view cable.) I grew up rooting for the Flames…

Back in the kid days, I wrote him a fan letter which he answered very graciously and included an autographed photo of him and Bobby Lalonde (who also autographed it!). I wish I still had the photo. Alas it was in the Flames home whites, not the fire engine red jerseys, but still it was neat having it when I was 13.

I got to meet him in person when the Phone Booth opened in 1997, and we shook hands. I was then 34 and he was 42. I told him I sent him a fan letter and he asked, concerned, if he had answered. I told him what he had done, and he remarked that that was the first fan letter he had received from someone outside of Georgia, so he remembered it. He was happy to autograph a pennant I had bought at the first game at the arena and we talked about his career. He said he remembered playing in Washington, but that since he was hurt most of the time, he never really got going here. His best years were in Atlanta, of course, and he said the highlight of his career was winning a medal (Bronze) at the World Championships the one year in his career when Atlanta missed the playoffs (The Atlanta Flames would make the playoffs every year, then get bounced in the first round, usually in bizarre ways, including holding LA to 3 goals in 2 games in a 2 out of three, only to get swept by 1-0 and 2-1 scores.)

He ended up being a regular on a sports talk radio station in Wisconsin, I think….

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions   4 recs

You have a wealth of great memories, MikeL

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by oldemystix on Aug 11, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I remember lots about hockey, even having been to literally over 1000 games…

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carolina Hurricanes/Hartford Whalers Mount Puckmore picks

Ron Francis
Rod Brind’Amour
Eric Staal
Glen Wesley

Honourable Mentions: Kevin Dineen Cam Ward

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

If we include management in there, I am surprised Jim Rutherford isn’t there. He seems to be just as much of the Canes image as most recent players who have gone through there have been.

Good to see an honourable mention for Dineen though,

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

That seemed about spot on to me, though I could conceivably have included either Rutherford or Karmanos. Especially since it was Karmanos’s idea to put a franchise in Raleigh-Durham in the first place.

by Wheeler on Aug 11, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Spot on.

Was thinking about this yesterday, and Detroit’s should probably be the easiest to pick (Howe, Yzerman, Lidstrom, Sawchuk).

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Poor Tim Cheveldae gets no respect.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

All snark aside, Cheveldae did play 72 games in goal for the Wings in 1991-92. Cripes.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was no Greg Stefan.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Few were with those sparkling GAAs

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love that the French cites his ’87 playoff GAA as 2.63 and the English has it as 2.83.

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

by fat_daddyo on Aug 11, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Love that the French cites his ’87 playoff GAA as 2.63 and the English has it as 2.83



French Canadian exchange rate

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude never had a Sv % above .9. His worst was 1982-83 where he put up 6/16/9, 4.52 and .853.

He’s also got a .856 and a .871

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but compare those numbers to other goalies of that era and they really aren’t that bad. No goalie had a GAA below 3.

by reesem37 on Aug 11, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

None of whom have an NHL award named after them.

Signed,
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by ThePeerless on Aug 11, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

no gordie howe?

which begs the question, can one person be on two team’s mount puckmores? for example, mark messier…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

From the author himself:

Hall of Famers, Paul Coffey, Bobby Hull, Gordie Howe, and Dave Keon each played for the franchise, but over too short of a period to be seriously considered.

Makes sense to me.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

makes sense. but without knowing the specifics from back in the day, is it possible that the whale wouldnt have been part of the merger without howe? if so, i’d say he’d been a pretty important guy in their history…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bad point. Honestly it’s a little before my time so I didn’t really know the extent of Howe’s participation in the whole thing – that’s interesting, though. But it’s a tricky situation, because I’d say at least 3 of the 4 he’s got on there are hard to bump. The only iffy one in my mind was Staal, and even that one’s not so iffy if you consider how long he’s been there (7 years already, time flies!) and the fact that he was instrumental in their first Cup.

Hey, Bob did better than the Chicago guys ;)

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gretzky should be on two Mount Puckmores as well.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

As should Patrick Roy (since he’s already on the Avalanche Mount Puckmore)

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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t envy whoever is picking for the Habs

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 11, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nuts.

I would go with Richard, LaFleur, Roy, and Belliveau

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d replace Belliveau with Dryden, personally.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 11, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone has to represent that dynasty though….i’d go with JB

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t put Dryden on there above Roy or Jacques Plante.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

For a D-man—Doug Harvey

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Under coach Dick Irvin, Harvey was named to the All-Star team 11 consecutive times, beginning in the 1951–52 NHL season. He won his first of seven James Norris Memorial Trophies in 1955, as the league’s best defenceman. In an era when the defenceman’s role did not include scoring points, Harvey used his skating speed and passing ability to become a factor in making the Canadiens a high-scoring team.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They should let them have two Habs Mount Puckmores.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

One in English….et une en français!!

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by bagace on Aug 11, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cammelleri, Gomez, Markov, Halak

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by red army line on Aug 11, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richard
Dryden
Lafleur
 
Figure those three guys are locks. After that, I have a hard time picking one guy for the fourth. And that’s just player personnel. Throw in coaches and FO types, and it’s a tough one.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 11, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda went for eras, but there are a ton of different combos you could use

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, even early, early guys like Howie Morenz or the Chicoutimi Cucumber you could put on there or Aurel Joliat.

Bernie Geoffrion, Elmer Lach, Guy Lapointe, Serge Savard…the list just goes on and on and on

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. It’s tough. The era approach is a nice idea. My list is a little 70’s-heavy.

I’d go Jacques Plante before Roy, but that’s just me.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 11, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always thought of Roy as the GOAT, but that’s because he’s still the best goaltender i’ve ever seen. You could make arguments for either of them though as far as success, Cups, impact/influence on the game etc.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one did the Statue of Liberty play better than Roy.
 
Snark aside, Roy is definitely one of my favourite goalies I have seen play.

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by Rather Bengt on Aug 11, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

love Gary Thorne’s call. classic.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Richard, Dryden, Lafleur, and dum rolllllllllllllll Alexei Kovalev

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by CarltonBanks on Aug 11, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Carey Price?

Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.

by jordanDC on Aug 11, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

...

 
Andre “Red Light” Racicot FTW

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Aug 11, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

:( he looks so sad.

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by The Ghost of Bebop on Aug 11, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t argue with Francis or Wesley… they were keys to the franchise. Brindy is a good choice too. Would have taken Dineen over Staal.

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by MikeL-Pivonka on Aug 11, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is OT, but I asked this elsewhere and never got a reply. Does anyone know what section in the CBA says how long after a contract is signed the NHL has to be able to reject it? I think it’s 11.6, which says " within sixty (60) days from the date upon which the facts of the Circumvention became known or reasonably should have been known to the NHL", or “within fourteen (14) days from the date upon which the SPC was approved by the NHL.” Is there something I’m missing? Because if that’s what the NHL has to go on, I don’t see how they would challenge any of the older contracts about circumventing the cap.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 11, 2010 12:15 PM EDT reply actions  

The only way I see the League getting around the 60-day language is if they noted their objections within the 60-day window and said that their investigation would be ongoing.

But it’s a douchey move on the League’s part to go that route.

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by fat_daddyo on Aug 11, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

according to Wysh’s recent entry, that is correct.

According to the collective bargaining agreement, here’s the skinny on de-registering a standard player contract from Section 11.6 (assuming this is the applicable section):
(b) Subsequent Challenge and/or De-Registration of SPCs.
Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in this Section 11.6, an approved and registered SPC may be subject to subsequent challenge and/or de-registration by the League: (i) in the case of a Circumvention relating to either the Club Upper Limit or the Maximum Player Salary, within sixty (60) days from the date upon which the facts of the Circumvention became known or reasonably should have been known to the NHL, or (ii) in the case of a challenge pursuant to (i) or (ii) below, within fourteen (14) days from the date upon which the SPC was approved by the NHL.

however, there is also this

Boston Bruins: Boston Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli issued a statement Tuesday about Marc Savard’s seven-year contract that was signed in December 2009 and ends with him making $525,000 in each of the last two years of that deal. From the Bruins:
“We are cooperating fully with the League in its investigation of the Marc Savard contract extension. The League informed us upon their registration of the contract on December 1, 2009 that they would be investigating the circumstances surrounding this contract. From that point on, they commenced their investigation and it has been ongoing since then. On August 4th, I met with two League appointed lawyers as part of the investigation. We will continue to cooperate with the League in any future investigative proceedings if necessary and we will have no further comment on the matter at this time.”
Aug. 4, of course, being the start of the Kovalchuk arbitration hearing. How convenient. DJ Bean of WEEI wonders how long the Bruins have known that the Savard deal could be spiked — and if they’d be OK with that occurring.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 11, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK – so I did find the right section. I wonder, could the NHL use the date when its’ investigation ends to be the start of the 60 days? If so, they would have standing on some of these. Can any lawyerish types tell me if I’m correct here? I don’t speak legalese.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 11, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just saw another section that might apply, on a Puck Daddy post. Section 26.10, which says “(d) There shall be no limitation of time barring the investigation of a Circumvention by the Commissioner.” So how does that factor into this?

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by timmyv38 on Aug 11, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe the language is intentionally vague to give the NHL the ability to do whatever they want, in a “may the best lawyer win” approach.

While I believe the NHL was correct to strike down the Kovalchuk deal, I personally think that rejecting contracts months after they were registered and seemingly approved would be wrong, but the language in the CBA appears to allow just that.

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by Sombrero Guy on Aug 11, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

So it’s not just me. If I am understanding this properly, the NHL could run an investigation, say the investigation’s finding is that the contract circumvents the cap, and deregister the contract. Would that be correct?

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by timmyv38 on Aug 11, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The section about investigations into circumvention (all under Article 26) also says the the investigator’s findings “are not binding,” which means the investigation could find that the contracts are circumventing the cap but the league decides not to punish them for other reasons. The findings still would be on record and could be used in the future against other loophole contracts.

Also, the CBA lists other punishments besides voiding the contract, including forfeiting games or draft picks and suspending club officials, agents, or players.

by Forsch31 on Aug 11, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you. I didn’t read all of 26 – reading too much of the CBA gives me a headache. Too much legalese.

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by timmyv38 on Aug 11, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

when does savard’s contract go into effect? i’m guessing it starts w/ the 2010-11 season. i would think the nhl would have to rule on it prior to it going into effect. which is a joke because if they void it now, then he becomes a FA. information that i’m sure would have been usefull to the B’s before the draft much less July 1.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Aug 11, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like the rumors from yesterday are true, D’Amigo is turning pro. Leafs fans must be beside themselves.

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 11, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s interesting, a lot of the Leafs fans I’ve seen think it’s too soon for him.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

It might be. However, based on what I’ve seen of their roster, he’d probably make their squad. I kid. he was rookie of the year last year in the ECAC and probably felt he could learn more in Kitchener or Toronto (Marlies not Leafs). Plus, he gets to start his contract clock now by signing his ELC.

Speaking of the Leafs isn’t this like day 4010 of ‘the Leafs are going to trade Kaberle’ saga?

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by Carl Putnam on Aug 11, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

In my opinion, I think some teams would actually benefit from these long-term deals being rescinded because of the cap space it will create and by probably having the option of signing the players for less (Boston, Vancouver, Chicago). I would think Hossa, Savard, and Luongo would sign for less to have the option of playing for contending teams.

by jaytown99 on Aug 11, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Wysh, via Twitter:

Remember how Capitals being on Wales Trophy was deemed a hoax? HHOF tells Puck Daddy it wasn’t. Actual engraving error. Post on PD soon.

Just…wow.

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Pouring one out for what might have been.

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by EmilyB on Aug 11, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m hoping it’s foreshadowing :)

But here’s my question – the chick from CSNPhilly says she contacted the HHOF and was told it WASN’T real. So…she made it up?

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did they do, engrave it back in March?

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

……..so what you’re saying is they jinxed us. Damn you, HHOF!!

by Becca H on Aug 11, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Story is now up.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, wow. A hoax made a lot of sense.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

a hoax makes more sense, but it’s somehow funnier that there was such a stunning screw up.

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too bad they fixed it, because having it at the Caps Convention with the error engraved would have been, um, interesting.

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by gfcaps fan on Aug 11, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

FYI, another Fan Forum tomorrow, this time with Alzner and Carlson!

Please join us for our next Fan Forum Teleconference with special guests Karl Alzner and John Carlson. The Fan Forum will take place tomorrow, Thursday, August 12 from 4:00 p.m. – 5:00 p.m. Please be ready to receive your phone call between 3:50 p.m. – 4:00 p.m. or dial in anytime after 4:00 pm to: 1.877.229.8493 PIN: 15011

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by RedBirdie on Aug 11, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Another conference where we can bang our heads against the wall over the stupid questions they let through.

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