Caps Sign Eric Fehr
by Becca H on Jul 8, 2010 3:54 PM EDT
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The Washington Capitals have signed right wing Eric Fehr to a two-year contract, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today. In keeping with club policy, financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Tarik reports that the deal is worth $4.4 million. Our Wrap of Fehr's 2009-10 season is here.
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He better play more...
$2.2M a year for a guy who plays 8 minutes a game is pretty steep. I love Fehr – I just hope he gets a little more ice time.
Given what he does with the ice time he does get….
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Does anyone else have the troubling suspicion that he would regress to the mean if he got serious minutes? Just me being a worrywart?
by CapitalCentre on Jul 8, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s improved each season in the bigs. Gives the team something it lacks (a big, young, netcrashing winger). No reason he shouldn’t keep improving.
If healthy. That “if” is why the term isn’t longer, I guess.
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11 minutes a game...my bad
He actually skates 11 minutes a game. More than I thought originally. Still ranked in the bottom 5 of all Caps last season.
He can have some of Flash’s minutes…I don’t mind.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely—I think most of us just wish he’d get MORE ice time, given the stats he’s put up with what little he’s had.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah men. his lack of time is an Eminger-esque level of weird to me
by DC FURY on Jul 8, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn’t it make sense to pay for production rather then time? If he’s scoring 20+ goals pay the man
I pretty much agree that you should pay for production rather than just TOI but remember every game is indeed at least 3 20 minute periods and to make sure your team stays ahead after you’ve been productive someone has to be on the ice stopping the opponent from scoring themselves….
That said I’m fine with the deal and I believe that Fehr will get a chance to show what he can and will do with top six forward minutes next season. I only hope he comes into Camp and starts the season in solid physical condition because I believe if he’s durable enough to play ~15-16minutes per game his productivity/TOI will stay close to his current levels and he could score closer to 30 goals, etc.. I’d only worry about him regressing towards the mean if he starts playing more than an average of 16:00/game.
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 8, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoop…missed this correction post. But Fehr actually averaged 12 minutes a game last season. The 11 you’re seeing is probably his career average.
Keep in mind that Fehr started the hockey year recovering from double-shoulder surgery and never has had a full healthy season. Reportedly, he’s been working out like he’s never been able to in the past, so next season should be very interesting….
12 minutes a game...
Still could be more, but Fehr averaged 12 minutes a game this year (which has been the highest of his career). He’s never averaged less than 10.
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That’s a very nice deal for Fehr.
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So $2.2M/yr for 2 years? I’m down with that.
confetti
Hey Flash, you gonna bite or do we get to take you to arbitration?
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I hope he signs a one-year, $2 million deal and then gets traded. DO IT GMGM.
…but not today, I’m exhausted! Fast and furious pace to these posts.
I don’t think that’s going to happen, Becca. I’ve got a little birdie that says Flash goes to the arbitration table. No source except a gut hunch.
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Amen to that!
That would be the greatest news in the world this summer. The only thing better I could imagine would be to somehow get him to accept a $1.99 mill contract just for that stupid comment he made to BB BB about not benching him again after his GWG last spring. Bad Flash… bad!
I’ll trade you Flash for Baltic Avenue and B&O railroad
by Brainumbc on Jul 8, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No sale. The mock arbitration for Flash (if there is one) will probably be the funniest thing I read all summer.
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Whoever portrays Flash’s agent gets hazard pay.
by CapitalCentre on Jul 8, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone with Computer Art Talent...
…needs to create a GIF of Weagle confetti!
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 8, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad it’s done, I was projecting Flash + Fehr would come in around 4.5 total – looks like it’ll be higher than that. This is reasonable, though.
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.
Eh, the reality is that his agent can easily argue that as a 2C with significant PP time, he’s far more valuable to this team than Fehr. Hopefully that isn’t true long term, but I could see him getting at least 2.5, unfortunately.
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.
To which the rebuttal is that he was replaced as 2C by Eric Belanger (not a noted offensive producer), benched by Game Seven and his numbers were vastly inflated by playing with some of the most talented offensive teammates in the entire NHL while on that PP. No GM, anywhere, is going to buy that Flash was the guy making the Caps’ PP tick.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 8, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
When Flash was making 750K, his 20-some goals were a nice bonus, and a cap strapped team might be inclined to add him. Now, he’s a one trick pony that only performs in the first part of the season. Parlaying him into a 2C would be a real feat.
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A one trick pony on a team with some stallions that can do the same trick and more.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d kill to be in the room when his agent is making that pitch. I’d also want a recorder, but that’d just be icing on the cake.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 8, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously, but the agent can and will argue whatever he can. I’m sure he brings the “duct tape” argument to GMGM and gets laughed in his face. He’s going to disclaim the late season struggles with the off-season struggles. He’s going to get paid more than Fehr, it’s going to be by us, and I am sad.
Sometimes you need a criminal lawyer, sometimes you need a criminal lawyer.
If Flash gets more than Fehr, from us, and is still with the team when April rolls around, I’m going to listen to Hawthorne Heights in the dark, with only a broken mirror for company.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 8, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Get it ready. GMGM doesn’t move assets that have any value at all and there are one or two people within the organization that just love Flash. He’s not going anywhere. In fact, he probably gets promoted with an extended look at 2C to start the season.
Sometimes you need a criminal lawyer, sometimes you need a criminal lawyer.
You buzz-killing bastard…
(You’re probably right.)
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Can’t move the young talent! That’s what makes the Caps so good!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 8, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you're right, and it makes me want to throw up
FaB, you’re totally right and it makes me sick. Nevertheless, let’s enjoy your boy’s party this week and deal with the hangover known as Fleischmann for another time.
I thought cming out of arbitration he only gets a one year deal, why the discussion of any term longer than 2 years as i can’t belive the Caps would even entertain offering him longer at this point…nor would he likely want it as he’s 26 years old so he’ll be a UFA after this contract either way….
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 8, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
ill takeFehr for 2.2M
Great deal
Now i hope Flash isnt back
by jeff550 on Jul 8, 2010 3:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think a sign and trade would be better than simply letting him go.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Any time you can get an asset back for someone, you have to explore that. However, it may not be feasible in this case. Maybe Flash hits the weights again, comes roaring out of the gate and ends up trade bait.
I can dream.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 8, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I share in that dream. He really was a beast last November.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
My dream was for Fehr at less than 2, but I can live with 2.2. Hopefully that puts him in a position to get more PT.
Cap-wise, that leaves the team with about $8.5M in cap space. 7 D, 10 forwards, 2 Goalies in there.
The only questions with regard to the roster is who plays 2C and 3C, and what happens with Flash.
If they go with MP and Mackan at the C positions, that will eat up about $1.7M in cap space. So they’ve got room to acquire someone if they want to.
I’m thinking GM will make a move sooner or later. Not necessarily this summer, though.
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I don’t see any reason for him to move now unless something too juicy to pass up drops into his lap (hint: unlikely). I don’t have a problem with starting the season with the kids (though unless they knock us all flat with sheer awesomeness I do have a problem ending it that way). Let’s see what they have and look for a center over the winter.
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According to @VogsCaps it's around 6.8 now.
@VogsCaps:
Quote:
“My calculations have #Caps with 19 players (2G, 7D, 10F) signed for total of approx $50.4 mil. Includes M. Johansson. Leaves about $9 mil.”
Now subtract Fehr’s 2.2 and you get 6.8.
I’m just going with Capgeek’s info. I would geuss the discrepancy stems from the “bonus cushion” which I have no idea how it works. However, when you take Vogel’s figure and add 850K in bonuses, as listed in Capgeek, and Mackan’s 900K, you get to about the same figures I noted.
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Bonus cushion is fairly simple, rookie contracts can have bonuses. These bonuses, until unearnable, count against the cap, however as long as it’s not the last year of the CBA, you can defer any earned bonuses to count against the next season’s cap (lowering your cap for next season). Its a bit of extra space for a team near the cap, but you really don’t want to use it.
"Yes, but Rimmer Directive 271 states just as clearly, 'No chance you metal ba****d.'"
over 35 contracts can have bonuses, too, iirc.
that bonus cushion is one of the things killing the blackhawks this upcoming season. They ended up deferring all those 2009-2010 bonuses to Toews, Kane, and the rest to 2010-2011.
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I think a 35+ contract needs to be one year to be eligible for bonuses.
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FWIW and not sure what it means, but the current Caps roster has Brian Fahey listed under D, which gives 8 D.
OH NO!! HE CAN’T HIT!!1 WHY ARE THEY PUTTING HIM ON THE TOP PAIR WITH GREEN!! LYNCH GEORGE MCPHEE NOWW!!!!11
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Unless a disaster happens Fahey’s cap hit for 2010-11 will amount to $0.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 8, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s what I put together on capgeek.com. It includes both MP and Johansson. If Flash gets $2.5 million, the Caps still will have about $4.5 million to play with. Plenty of room to get a #2/3 C or a top six defenseman or both.
FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin — $9,538,462
Nicklas Backstrom — $6,700,000
Alexander Semin — $6,000,000
Mike Knuble — $2,800,000
- Eric Fehr — $2,200,000
Brooks Laich — $2,066,667
Jason Chimera — $1,875,000
Dave Steckel — $1,100,000
Matt Bradley — $1,000,000
Marcus Johansson — $900,000
Boyd Gordon — $800,000
Mathieu Perreault — $716,667
DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green — $5,250,000
Tom Poti — $3,500,000
Jeff Schultz — $2,750,000
Karl Alzner ($850,000 bonus) $1,675,000
John Erskine — $1,250,000
John Carlson — $816,667
Tyler Sloan — $700,000
GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth — $821,667
Simeon Varlamov — $821,667
ROSTER SIZE 21
SALARY CAP $59,400,000
PAYROLL $53,281,795
BONUSES $850,000
CAP SPACE $6,968,205
Just guessing here, but here’s what they might do, pending what Mackan does at DevCamp.
Let MP and Mackan break camp with the big club, and see what they look like for a couple of months. If one of them can hold down one of the center spots, then they trade for the other center spot they need.
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Mine is identical.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, if the Caps are a team that will go to the top of salary cap, they’ve got some spending to do. I know they want to leave some space for injuries, but there’s room to do that and still make a deal.
They also are going to leave room for a deadline acquisition I’d imagine.
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Yeah, that’s right, according to GM GM. Whenever possible he always likes to keep several mill in the piggy bank.
I’m honestly beginning to wonder… assuming Flash gets at least a $2.2 mill contract we’ll have nearly 8% of the cap remaining (or roughly $4.77 million). That’s a lot of backup fundage. I wonder if McPhee was asked to be a little more conservative this year in free agency due MSE’s acquisition of the Wizards, Verizon Center, and local TicketMaster franchise.
I know they just eliminated 20 redundant, executive level positions previously held at WSE, so $4.77 million not spent would probably go a long way.
If we sign Flash for 2.5 i pray he comes out and holds his first half production for a full year.
If Flash stayed consistant as a 2C position, and even dipped just a bit in the playoffs, this team would be in incredible shape
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Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin
Higher than I expected money wise, for fewer years, but whatevs…two critical signings down. If Semin gets traded, I could live with EF at the 2RW because I feel he would produce more simply with more TOI opps.
More norrissey, less morrissey
http://www.sportscity.com/NHL/Washington-Capitals-Salaries
At 2.2 mil a year he fits right in there I say.
Who plays 2LW if Semin is traded? I guess it depends on the 2C, Laich seems to have made the transition to wing.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Gouldie gets the credit for this whole idea, but I liked it so well I will repeat it here.
Put Sasha at 2L (his natural position) and Fehr at 2R, and Laich at 3L. Then you’re looking at potentially 3 badass lines.
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I like the idea – who do you put at 3R? Chimmer?
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Owen Nolan in Gouldie’s scenario.
Then Chimera at 4L on a line with Stecks/Gordo and Brads.
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Love the fourths—Brads can show everyone how tofinishbleed.
FTFY (love you Matt :))
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Yeah, I agree, I think it looks real good, which is why I reposted it.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself, FD. 3/4R is more realistically Andrew Gordon, since I don’t think the organization holds Owen Nolan in the esteem I do.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
But you could have said it just as well! As, in point of actual fact, you did so say.
I could go with A Gordo at 3R, I guess.
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I’m fine with either scenario. That gets the team to a much better balanced situation. Hell, I’d just roll all 4 lines almost every night. Other teams won’t know what hit them. They spend the first 3 shifts chasing around Ovi, Baks, Sasha, Laich, Fehr, etc. Then they think they can relax because its 4 line time. All of a sudden Brads & Chimmy jump off the bench and go racing down the wings. Even Philly’s D would struggle to keep pace all 60 minutes.
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have you put any thought into the 2C? Or is everyone completely stumped on that one haha.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve put a lot of thought into it. I don’t see a FA answer out there.
So it’s either trade (Patrick Sharp?) or Perreault, Johansson or (shudder) Flash to start the season.
Probably should take this with another thread, if you want to pursue, but it’s been hashed out pretty thoroughly.
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In retrospect, anyone now read this as a metaphor?
@ericfehr16 Had a big one reeled right up to the boat before it ripped the line. So close. But that’s only good in horseshoe and hand grenades I believe
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"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
I saw that and thought the same thing!! I wonder if he was getting all metaphorical and deep on us…or if he was really just fishing.
He could have been fishing, for real. But he reeled in a lot more money than before, as well.
Anyway, glad we have him reupped for two more years. (And is he now fishing for compliments, while he’s at it?)
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And now he could buy almost 300,000 fishing rods.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions
So now the question is, what is Flash’s worth to the team both in the short-term and further down the road.
Shultz got 11 mil for 4 years
Fehr got 4.4 for 2 years.
Flash, imo, will walk trying to get 3+ from a team who doesn’t think he’s worth that.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
3+ would piss me off. Not after that bombing in the postseason, when his offense is off, his whole game is off. No more than what Fehr just got and I’ll be happy.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
The Caps will go to arbitration before giving him $3+ mil, I would think, and I doubt an arbitrator would lobby for anywhere close to that.
I’d like to keep Flash on the team for the right price, but I wish Gabby would get over his man-crush with Flash and play him the minutes he is worth (and give more to Fehr).
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
never know with Arbitration.
Flash posted number similiar to: Hossa, Alex Frolov, Joe Pavelski, Mike Camelleri, and Alexei Ponikarovsky.
In order they made: 5.2, 2.9, 4.0, 5.0, 2.5. Frolov actually made closer to 5 million, and Hossa 7.2 (and YES I understand Hossa was hurt for a bit) but those are including bonuses. First set of numbers are purely cap hit.
Go up and down the list of 20+ goal scorers with 50+ points and you’ll see a lot of the same. Which is why I see arb giving flash more than the team wants and him walking away. He goes to another team and plays 2nd more regularly he may see more numbers with more skilled linemates. Maybe not when his toi goes down and on a less powered team.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
Hahaha — I just went to the Caps’ website because I wanted to compare stats. Go to Team Roster and Flash isn’t on it.
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I wonder whether Fehr was on it yesterday.
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he was, i remember seeing his name there, but flash has been off it for a while
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
They also have Brian Fahey listed under D, along with Alzner and Carlson. I thought Fahey was Hershey?
maybe they’re going to make a final decision after camp. they only have 8 D men listed for now. Sloan can take a hike though.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 8, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
In the “What About Flash?” sweepstakes, I will venture – for fun – that he gets a juicy arbitration and gets sent to the Islanders to help fill their cap requirement as a young guy who can help them in the regular season
I wonder what the Islanders 1st round pick in next years’ draft is going for this off-season…
I’m actually kind of surprised at how many people expected him to get less – I’ll be honest, I was thinking $2.5 mil for both him and Sarge, I’m not surprised at all. Happy with a 2 year deal, too – let him prove he can stay healthy and produce with more ice time, and go from there.
I think I was predicting around $2.5 for Fehr in an arb award. But my best-case scenario was 2 or less.
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Had a discussion about Fehr’s worth last night, and I think it came in right about where I expected.
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And credit Mike Vogel on yesterday’s Caps Report — he was 100 K off.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I was expected 2.2-2.5 for fehr. I was however expecting a bit more for Sarge on the overall 3 mill a year rather than 2.75 avg.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
So is he a UFA or RFA at the end of the deal?
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~Alex Ovechkin
Looks like RFA. He’ll turn 27 after July 1, 2012.
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That, I think, is the best part of this contract.
by TFG on Jul 8, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I kind of love that he tweeted the news out himself. Classy, on a day unfortunately devoted to an NBA douche.
And Nate Ewell tweeted that he asked first, which is adorable.
by CapitalCentre on Jul 8, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Just saw that Fehr will be on 106.7 at 4:40. Give or take.
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They usually (or at least used to), post download links to their segments after the broadcasts.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
http://1067thefandc.cbslocal.com/category/podcasts/
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure he won’t say much. I’m going to have to turn down the volume on the Fishman call in order to listen. (season ticket holder teleconference; I won’t be missing much, although I like listening to what he’s saying)
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Only way he knows is to compare anything to football, but not a terrible question, ultimately.
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Great…LaVar now talking about Haynesworth with Fehr…Christ!
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:45 PM EDT reply actions
To summarize Fehr: If he doesn’t want to get on board, he should go somewhere else.
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t mind that the local media covers it, since for whatever reason local Redskins fans do seem to care…I just don’t need Chad Dukes asking Eric Fehr about it.
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I sometimes listen to them on my drive home. They ask everyone they interview on the show about Haynesworth.
I usually only tune in when I know they’ll be talking to one of the Caps. I’m not a Redskins fan (not that there’s anything wrong with that, but I’m from Baltimore), so about 90% of the show’s content annoys me.
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be worth it for you to just listen to the podcasts then to avoid any Redskins drama. Sometimes they are interesting but other times LaVar rants like a crazy man and I turn it off. Chad Dukes is kinda annoying. I do like that they talk about the Caps, Wizards, and Nats besides the Skins. It’s always fun to hear the caps players being interviewed and getting attention.
Doesn’t he get that the two are in completely different stratospheres? Fehr is humble, hard-working, awesome and friends w/ Ovie – Haynesworth is arrogant, lazy, unawesome (…it’s a word) and friends w/ no one. The two should not even be in the same sentence together.
He asked what would happen if there was a guy like that on the Caps team, would the team members support him?
(Stupid).
"I am ready for his provocations"
by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 8, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
A (n educated) guess at the reply:
“We’d deal with it in the room. The team has to come first, no one is bigger than the team, we want to go out there and work hard, be tough to play against, win battles, go to the tough places, and we have a lot of faith in our leadership so we’d handle it from a team perspective.”
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Less then bruising forwards (again)
Today the Caps spent nearly 6 million on forwards.
Unfortunately it was all on lanky noodle Eric Fehr.
Fittingly this signing came on the six day anniversary of the Stars getting noticeably tougher by signing gritty, pounding, Stanly cup winning, Adam Burish. Mind you Burish could be had for barley a million dollars a year. Woe to us, see you at the 41 ice capades sessions this year.
/OFB’ed
by d_fens on Jul 8, 2010 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
you do realize we could have kept brash and pickup up boogaard for the cost of one eric fehr?. this team will get run out of the rink on a nightly basis.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
Less then bruising forwards (again)
What did Burish do during the playoffs? He is a 4th line guy, not in Fehr’s class.
This is stupid. So many tough forwards we could have had for nothing. Tarnasky, a vet like May, McGrattan, Peters, Boynton.. we could have had four of those guys for Fehr’s asking price.
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It’s a continuity joke. Check out OFB’s reaction to the Schultz signing and you’ll see what he’s riffing on.
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(I’m continuifying the continuites.)
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D’oh!
My bad – withdrawing now…
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I realize intangibles, but Burish had 0 points in 15 games, averaged 5.5 min per game, was a -1, had only 9 hits and 2 giveaways. Fehr had 3 goals and an assist, had 6 hits in 7 games, no giveaways, I don’t think you are comparing apples to apples. Comparing Burish to Bradley or Chimera might be a better look?
It’s a continuity j…
oh, nevermind.
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I hear ..
Nick Fotiu is looking to make a comeback this season and cash in on how much the new NHL fits his style of play too!
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 8, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it—Nick Fotiu snark…never thought I would see the day :)
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by Rather Bengt on Jul 9, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
#2 Center
Anyone thought about Laich as #2 Center, he played C in Jrs, although last year when he had a shot there, i thought he looked out of sync. Then Flash moved there and looked good for a while before his play dropped off. I would like to see this #2 line for preseason; Flash-Laich-Semin…give both Laich & Flash another look at C, with Semin on the RW. Hopefully one of them takes hold of the position.
See, the problem with that line is it means Fleischmann is still on the Capitals.
Actually, I think Laich’s an okay option at center, but on the third line, not the second. He’s not the kind of guy the offense can run through, and he’s not great defensively.
Now, if he were playing with two very skilled wings, I could see that working.
by David Getz on Jul 8, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it time to resurrect my theory that Perreault and Laich (or, originally, Aucoin and Laich) should be on the same line, because they have complementary skillsets, and because the offense could run thorugh Perreault while Laich handles the faceoffs?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Except for the clusterfuck that results in a D zone draw. Unless you move MP to the wing full time, you’ll have some crazy shifting business in the D zone which can only cause problems. If you have Laich taking the draws and playing down low on D, he’s the C. You can’t somehow then say “but when it’s time to go up ice give the puck to MP and let him skate up the middle.”
Sometimes you need a criminal lawyer, sometimes you need a criminal lawyer.
Can you run the offense from the wing?
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You can run the offense from anywhere, it all depends who you are. With a guy like MP, he seems to work much better in the middle of the ice. For one, it just opens up his options to use his shiftiness; when you have him coming up a wing the D can cheat a little to the middle and wait for MP to make a small error and then pinch him to the boards. In the middle of the ice the D has to be basically perfect or MP is going to make him look silly. While MP isn’t physically imposing on the defensive end, his patience with the puck was key to the breakout on several occasions. Whether that patience outweighs the size disadvantage is for smarter minds than mine.
Ultimately it comes down to what MP is comfortable with. Look at his two comparable players: Briere and St. Louis. St. Louis is a wing through and through. He works well in open space, creates, and still passes and scores. The main difference I see that would prevent MP from doing that are 1) that St. Louis is much stronger and is tough as nails at this point. If MP can develop that attitude and strength, it could work. 2) St. Louis has a shot that makes him a threat that MP just isn’t right now. If MP works on his shot (and given his age and experience it seems plausible that he could improve his shot a good bit, even if it will never be elite) then that makes him a much more viable threat on the wing.
Now compare him to Briere. Briere, like St. Louis, has a lethal shot, but for whatever reason has never been nearly as good on the wing as at C. I think this playoffs may have proven once and for all that Briere really does belong at C and moving him to W takes away from his effectiveness. MP forechecks more tenaciously than Briere, and can’t possibly be worse at D than Briere. So if he can learn to preserve himself like Briere has, I think he can survive at C. Another similarity I see with Briere and MP is that both of them are exceptional at finding the dead ice and being at the right place at the right time. How many times have you seen a puck squirt into open ice and guess who is right there with an open net looking at him? Daniel Briere. In the brief time I’ve seen MP, he seems to have that kind of quality as well.
As I said above, it comes down to MP and what he’s comfortable with/capable of doing. I’m legitimately shocked that the Caps have shown no interest in moving MP to the wing. If they thought he couldn’t make it at C or would be a quality W, I figure they would have at least tried it. If MP is comfortable at the W, and can produce there, that makes his value to this team much higher. Right now MP isn’t even close to being in the same class as MSL or Briere, so it’s hard to say what he’s capable of in comparison to those guys. I’m just trying to outline the salient similarities/differences between the three players. Which kind of player MP turns out is ultimately on him.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 8, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
On Perreault’s last call-up, he did start some games on the left wing, so they may be thinking of it depending on how the audition at center goes next year.
They don’t have a lot of prospects at center who are close, so I can understand why they’re sticking with Perreault at the position given the success he’s had in the AHL in such a short time as a pro.
Well, Laich was a center back in his junior days and he still claims it’s the position where he feels the most comfortable. I agree, though, that if he does move to center it should be on nthe third line.
Agree the third line is the only place it makes sense, but I still don’t like Laich at C.
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Let’s say the Caps trade Fleischmann for a d-man after his arbitration award:
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Laich-MoJo-Semin
Chimera-Perreault-Fehr
B. Gordon-Steckel-Bradley
I’d go with that. Putting a rookie who’s played in the Swedish Elite League probably would be okay between Laich and Semin, while Perreault has produced with both Chimera and Fehr (not to mention that line would be fun to watch). Andrew Gordon becomes the 13th forward, playing wing on all lines when needed to acclimate him to the NHL-level of play.
I’d be okay with that.
For the regular season I’d live, but I wouldn’t be comfortable chasing a Cup with that.
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Two lineups I prefer to that one:
O – B – K
Semin – Laich – Fehr
Chimera – MoJo – Perreault/A. Gordon
B. Gordon – Steckel – Bradley
(I ain’t saying I like Laich at 2C. I’m saying he may be a better 2C right now than either MoJo or Perreault)
or
O – B – K
Semin – MoJo – Fehr
Laich – Perreault – A. Gordon
Chimera – Steckel/B. Gordon – Bradley
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd prefer a 2nd Line with ...
Semin at LW
Laich @ Center
and
Fehr@RW…
and I’d seriously give that one a try….
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 8, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Yesterday (or was it two days ago). someone posted a link to an old post on a possible Caps line of Semin/Laich/Fehr with Laich as center. My memory may be failing me but did they try that particular combination?
That was on one of the threads about Boyd Gordon when someone had once suggested making him 1st line center. (Back in the day.)
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Gordo did center Jagr way back when.
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Wow. You’re right, I remember that now – good recall! And mildly insane that a line of Jagr-Gordo-whomever has existed before.
can’t claim all the credit. I remember it, but someone also mentioned it in the “Happy Boyd Gordon day!” thread on Tuesday, so it happens to be right at my fingertips.
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So, wow. I was guessing Fehr and Flash would each get 1.5M raises. That’s pretty much what Fehr got here, feelin’ good about my predictive accuracy!
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Can you please make it Patrice Bergeron? I’d settle for Jarret Stoll
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Bergeron?? Hooo, baby, dare to dream big.
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There’ve been a couple of us stumping for Patrice for a bit now. He’s an absolute monster on the PK and massively outshoots really tough competition at ES. He lead the B’s in points this season, despite getting basically no PP time.
I could definitely talk myself into a Semin → Bergeron straight-up swap. More important position, less offensive talent, but still a very solid scorer. Fragile and only one year left on his deal, but then you can say the same thing about Alex Semin. This is especially true if we can get him on a reasonable extension because of injury concerns; Backstrom/Bergeron/Mackan could turn out formidable in a couple of years as C goes.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 8, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Bergeron in a freakin’ heartbeat, no need to convince me. We have a glut of wings, so I would have no problem giving them Semin for Bergeron.
Boston’s kinda tight against the cap, and the extra $1.25M in cap differential might make it tough for them to swallow that deal…wonder if they’d toss in Boychuk or Hunwick to shave some cap room?
Would loooooove to get Bergeron with a Weagle on his chest, though.
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I’d rather see Flash for Bergeron. Don’t know how realistic it is. Seems to me that Flash is our most expendable of our scoring wingers.
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I’d take Bergeron – I hate his guts but I’d love him on our team. Boston is getting a bit squished up the middle…
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Stoll is not even close to ideal but I could probably live with it. He’s one of those Swiss Army Knife players we talked about. Huge shot for the PP, good skating and defensive awareness makes him a solid PKer (going off memory, not BtN), good at ES, and a good face off man. When he was healthy he was a pretty steady contributor last season.
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I like the idea of Stoll because even if Mackan or MP or Kuznetzov claim the 2C, he’s still a good 3C
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How about cloudy with a chance of trade?
by Seminrocks on Jul 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Damnit, I was typing up a weather joke when this popped up.
by TFG on Jul 8, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
wooo, opportunity to practice my french!
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Fehr Smells a Good Thing
The Washington Capitals continue to consolidate their core players support.
They were granted a two-year contract worth $ 4.4 million to forward Eric Fehr Thursday.
It is the third signing for the Capitals since Tuesday, after those of defenseman Jeff Schultz and forward Boyd Gordon.
“I hoped that all players can come back with the team,” said Fehr.
The 24-year right winger had his most productive season last year with 21 goals and 18 assists, despite an average usage time of just 12 minutes per game.
In the first playoff round in 2010, he scored three goals against the Canadiens.
Fehr, a first-round pick in 2003, got 36 goals and 37 assists in 178 games with the Capitals.
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I’m looking forward to seeing what Fehr can do with a full offseason of training, which he didn’t have last year.
On a side note – can Flash be better this season, after a offseason of training, then he was last season after his off season health problems?
Fleischmann’s health problems caused him to spend six weeks in the gym, since that was all he was allowed to do. He joined the team a few weeks into the season in the best shape of his life, and proceeded to dominate until all that muscle faded away and he became soft as a cattail.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 8, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Unless BB gives him more playing time, which he rightfully deserves
and stops putting him in the doghouse for no good reason, then this is a vast over payment.
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