Wednesday Caps Clips
by J.P. on Jul 7, 2010 6:40 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Still more on the past week's worth of non-news out of Kettler. [Ted's Take, SB Nation DC]
- A trio of players who are still unsigned and could help the Caps on the cheap. [RMNB]
- Free agency, so far, has produced shorter, cheaper contracts, but a few more of them. [Peerless]
- Who's the greater Gordo - newly re-signed Boyd or Calder Cup blogging hero Andrew? [RtR]
- On Michal Neuvirth's past and future... [Bears Bites and Insights, Stack the Pads]
- ... and Neuvy and the rest of the goalies. [Live in Red]
- Defense doesn't necessarily win championships. Outscoring opponents, however, works every time. [RtR]
- Pics from the Bears' Calder Cup rally. Hide your daughters, retroactively. [Caps In Pictures]
- Next season's squad in Hershey is going to look quite different from this past season's. [Hershey Bears Hockey]
- Speaking of, chatting with new Bear Dany Sabourin. [Canoe via Google Translate]
- Great work, as always, by friend-of-the-blog sk84fun_dc in pulling together a list of likely Development Camp invitees. [HFBoards]
- Eric Fehr laces 'em up for charity. [Winnipeg Sun]
- It's always good to see the Caps pounding the 'Canes (even if it's only in a logo poll). [Icethetics]
- Former Caps draft pick Joel Broda is off to Austria to continue his pursuit of a professional hockey career. [Calgary Sun]
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Mike Comrie made the list of available FA centers posted in yesterday’s clips. His stats look pretty good considering he only played 43 games, yet I haven’t heard his name come up as a good fit for the Caps. Why not? (I know almost nothing about him.)
by RPI93 on Jul 7, 2010 7:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Because the Caps don’t want the Hilary Duff association that comes along with him.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
Also because he’s a smallish center with a long injury history, declining point totals, and defensive issues.
Then again, I doubt he commands a long-term deal or a lot of money. So there’s that.
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And, if I remember correctly, he has a reputation for being kind of a tool.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 7:57 AM EDT up reply actions
The logo thing was low-hanging fruit. Very few logos out there would lose to the ’Canes logo (even their secondary one shown on the website). They might have a Cup banner, but their logos are sorely lacking.
My wife calls them “the toilet bowl team” since their logo looks like a flushing terlet.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
And tonight's opposing team ....
The Carolina Sphichters!
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 7, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
As soon as it was pointed out to me (2003?) that the main logo looked like a flush pattern, I haven’t been able to see it as anything else. At least the secondary logo, while not as good as the Weagle, isn’t quite so down the tubes…
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A note on the RMNB article – Freddy Meyer’s QCOMP and Corsi QCOMP were worse than anyone who played on the Isle’s blueline for more than 40 games last season with the exception of Brendan Witt. No one got significantly better zone starts than anyone else, so that’s probably out as an explanation. His Corsi did look good, so he’s got that going for him, but he played limited, somewhat sheltered minutes at ES.
His numbers don’t indicate an especially good PK player – again, limited minutes and middling results, other than the goalies saving more shots for him than other players. On the PK, he may drive that more than he does at ES, I don’t know what the size of the effect is there.
I think that given equal contracts or even a 20%-30% premium, I’d rather have Mottau.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 7, 2010 8:34 AM EDT reply actions
Myer is not a very good player. He benefited by being a relatively healthy player on a terrible team. The fact that he didn’t even average 17 minutes of ice time on the Islanders tells you something.
Stay away from him.
Yeah I would say you’ve already got a guy like Meyer in Tyler Sloan.
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For some reason, Andrew Joudrey chose to wear all of Holtby’s gear for this event. Including his sweater, with a masking tape Joudrey over the Holtby. To his credit, he kept all the gear on (other than the mask) for the whole event.
He looks hilarious in the gear with his flip flops
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the “Y” is cut off by the paper. Looks like one of those ’Y’s with a rounded tail.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Optical illusion. Duh…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Think it was a play on the last name of that goalie-guy from NJ. You know, the one that will be in the HHOF as soon as he’s eligible?
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The info from sk84fun_dc is fantastic.
One of my favorite links there is to the stats for invitee Nauris Enkuzens, Dynamo Riga (G). Gee, I wonder who in the organization invited the Latvian goaltender…
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I got the over/under on Kugryshev going hands-and-knees at 20 minutes, Day 1.
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He’s 0 for 2, isn’t he? That’s gotta set the bar pretty high (low?)
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Peerless, A picture is worth a thousand words…2 camps in the rearview mirror, I’ll take 30, lol.
There’s nothing like laughing at someone else’ pain.
Seriously, it will be interesting to see if he makes it through the skating drills, but I hope he does with the knowledge he has coming into camp.
by sk84fun_dc on Jul 7, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Giving this a rec because I can’t rec the HF post.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
That depends entirely on term and cost. Morrisonn is better than Sloskine and is someone I’d much rather have in the lineup on the regular than either of those two, but not at significant overpayment.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 7, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m in the “not under any circumstances” category. I would have been down with Jurcina. Morrisonn is just filler that will be hard to move out of the way for a real upgrade. I’d rather go into the season with Sloan and Erskine and the hope of acquiring a veteran.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I was going to argue that Morrisonn is better than replacement level, but I really can’t. He had high quality of teammates, sheltered minutes defensively and sheltered zone starts, while putting up replacement level metrics in just about every category. He’s still an upgrade at the 6D spot, but someone would have to get stashed in Hershey to bring in a deadline acquisition.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 7, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
15:54 of ice time in the playoffs. If Boudreau doesn’t trust him then, what would he add above Sloan or Erskine?
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well BB trusts him more than Sloskine. How much TOI did they get….
Shamo is obviously not a good player, but so long as we have Sloskine penciled into our 6/7 it’s hard to say that any regular NHL player wouldn’t make our D better. Anyone.
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I’d rather start the season with Sloan, Erskine, and an extra 1 Million in the bank that can turn into 3-4 Million of cap space by season’s end.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess. I’m just over those two. Any time I see them in a Caps jersey is just going to bring back bad memories. Plus, when I think about what they are being paid combined, and what we could have for that price instead, I get despondent.
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Plus you’ve got to account for injuries. There’s a good chance the D will take some injuries and the Caps will have both Sloskine playing for an extended period of time. With that in mind, I still might rather go with that if ShaMo wanted something near or an upgrade from his near $2 million salary.
Defense doesn’t necessarily win championships. Outscoring opponents, however, works every time. [RtR]
It’s worth noting that the worst offensive team to win the Cup since the lockout was the ANA squad from 2007, finishing 7th overall in Goals Per Game. The article’s point is spot on – you need both for a shot at the ultimate prize.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 7, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I made that point the other day, that well-rounded teams win championships, but whoever I was arguing the point with never replied.
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Who signs first – Corvo, Morrisonn or Pothier?
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My guess is Corvo. We’ve been hearing how much Morrisonn thinks he’s worth, so I wouldn’t be surprised to see him try and get that, and I think Pothier’s a guy someone’s going to bring in relatively late in the free agency period to shore up their depth.
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by alex_k on Jul 7, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Corvo. I think he’s better than the other two, and brings more to the table in terms of skill. He’ll have more demand. I think the others will get signed as teams look to add depth 6/7/8 guys.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I think both Pothier and Morrison are going to be September signees — or maybe heading off to Europe.
Corvo will still get a decent one-year deal in the NHL pretty soon.
I’m betting Corvo goes to Anaheim.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
That would be a good fit for him. He has to play with a good defender, though, to allow him to play a little fast and loose.
Which ANA doesn’t have. ANA also has Fowler and Sbisa ready to jump to the NHL and they both play the same sort of offensive game as Corvo. That doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be interested in Corvo, but I think they’ll look for that good defender first and then hope that unnamed defender can help mentor and stabilize Sbisa/Fowler.
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Wouldn’t shock me if he went back to LA unless he burnt some sort of bridge there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess I could see that, but I don’t really know the history with him and LAK. They could afford him, depending on what they do about securing a scoring wing, but I think they’ll want him on a short term deal. He may be going for a longer deal, but like so many other FAs I’m not confident he’ll get one. Coming off the season and injury he had I don’t know how he’ll have the leverage to ask for a long term deal.
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And to further the term discussion, he’s 33 now so if he takes a 1 year deal he can try to build his value and work toward a longer contract that goes into his late 30s. A two year deal makes his next contract a 35+ and that will be harder for him to secure high dollars and term.
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Seeing as how Doughty’s deal is up next year, they have to be careful at what they commit and for how much.
Doughty, Simmonds, and Johnson are all up at the same time. Oof.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Simmonds is an interesting one, he’s one of those glue players whose numbers don’t show his real value. JJ is the guy I’d think about walking away from if I’m LAK. They could get a nice haul on an RFA sheet or trade if they let him walk, and I’d bet he asks for more money than he’s worth.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
They certainly could afford to if they let him walk. Lots of young talent on the blueline (Drewiskie, Hickey, Teubert, Martinez, etc)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
What happened to Sbisa? He played a lot for the Flyers in 08-09, and then barely saw any ice time in Anaheim last season.
I think they kept him down in Juniors. I know he played in the WJC and the Olympics.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well ANA didn’t want to rush him. PHI basically had to bring him up in 08-09 because of cap crunch and some injuries and they sent him back to the WHL mid-way through the season. Well done, guys. ANA didn’t want to rush him and had what they thought was a solid D corps last year so they let him stay in juniors to finish his eligibility. He played in the Olympics and was pretty good. I think it’s highly likely that he makes the NHL. Unless Fowler outplays him in camp and they don’t want two rookies on D, I think both make ANA.
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I hate to be obvious, but tell me how much each wants and I’ll have an answer for you. Right now it’s all about the dollars (and the term). GMs and players/agents are playing a high stake game of chicken and whatever player blinks first will get a contract. Saying all that, Corvo may be the last to be signed since he had the biggest contract last season and probably will come down the least.
Best of luck to Broda in Austria.
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I think he’s going to have fun being 20 years old and playing hockey in Salzburg. And as part of the Red Bull sports empire, the team will get to do some interesting appearances and such.
Exhibit A – Here’s the Red Bull New York soccer team getting ready to introduce a new player to its fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Urvpfj9YQ
He’ll never know the disappointment he’s in for.
Wait, we’re still talking about Broda?
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 7, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
From the Sabourin article:
“The Capitals have suggested during our discussions that there was a strong chance that I play some games with them minimally during the next season,” Sabourin reveals.
Um…uhhh…
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Code for “the Caps don’t want to shuttle Holtby up and down every time Varlamov or Neuvirth gets hurt”
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think he’s under any illusions as to what his role with the organization will be. But playing for Hershey is a pretty decent gig in the A, and a callup or three to Washington can’t be all bad.
I think by “play some games” in Washington he meant: “sit on the bench a few games in Washington and get that NHL paycheck for a few days”.
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that’s how Washington has rewarded their AHL goalies in the past. Everyone gets a turn to sit on the bench and draw a cushy paycheck for a couple of days.
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Seems likely that Mike Modano will go to Detroit. If Datsyuk and Zetterberg each play center again next year (they each had 1000+ faceoffs this year) that gives the Filppula, Modano, Helm, and Abdelkader as possible pivots. I don’t see them moving Filppula. Any interest in Helm or Abdelkader? Helm was their leading PK forward — I’d like to see him on the Caps.
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Sure. I love Helm’s combination of speed and tenacity, and Abdelkader’s a big guy who can skate well. I don’t think there’s any chance the Wings move Helm, though.
Or Abdelkader. They don’t take their time to develop guys just to move them. Maybe Abdelkader gets the ol’ Kyle Quincey, but I think they might feel a little burned over that one.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, but he’s not moving. I’m hoping Cody Eakin could be our answer to Darren Helm.
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Semi-related: I had a dream last night DRW signed Modano and due to the salary cap had to trade Helm and people were literally crying over sadness at the press conference. It was bizarre.
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You’re like the third person today with a hockey-related dream. Mine was that all three of our Arb guys were traded to other teams, but the only one I can remember clearly was Schultz to Florida.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Weird. Mine was that I woke up 6’3" and could skate like Scott Niedermayer and hit like Scott Stevens.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 7, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You dreamt you were Optimus Prime?
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for negative reinforcement.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Last dream I had was last week. LeBron signed with the Redskins for a zillion dollars, I was upset, then there was a tornado on 66 because I was driving a getaway car, or something.
I need to ease off the caffiene.
Do you remember where dreamHelm got traded to? (I wonder if this is how Eklund does it…?)
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 11:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Helm would be awesome, but what’s his current contract and would Detroit really let him go?
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Neat!
(This math class needs something… Old Bay, maybe. Zzzzzzzzzzzz.)
What sort of raise is he expected to make? That’s the kind of player you love to have on your team, if you have the cap space to make it happen.
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why not Filppula?
With both Helm and Abdelkader becoming the kind of homegrown talent most teams covet, does Filppiula make the most sense for DET to move? Just throwin it out there…
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Mondano to Detroit just seems so wrong.
Helm’s a little too much like Chimera, except smaller. Fastest guy on the ice, and hand of concrete.
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Neuvirth is the technician. He has the economy of motion of a goalie who knows he’s not as athletic as his peers, but relies on his technique to make saves, then his athleticism. He’s just as cool under pressure as Varly and now has two Calder Cup championships under his belt.
I’d say Varly has a ways to go to show he’s as cool under pressure as Neuvirth. People got carried away with Varly’s first NHL start at MON and his first handful of playoff games, but in the big picture I don’t buy the “cool under pressure” label for Varly. He’s not a guy that just crumbles under pressure, but I’d say it’s a mixed bag with him. Letting routine pop-ups get by your glove is not the definition of “cool under pressure.”
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by Rob Parker on Jul 7, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
This season’s competition in net is going to be a compelling story. I like the chip on MN’s shoulder, and he backs it up in big games (8-1 in close out games, iirc).
More norrissey, less morrissey
I wonder who or what Tarik is alluding to when he says some in the organization have questions about Neuvi’s work ethic. Mark French seems to think very highly of him.
but Michal is very quiet and very motivated. Sometimes you misplace that and you don’t think he is that motivated."
I would say that Alzner and Varlamov are the two biggest question marks this year. Neither has played enough (and played consistently) at the NHL level to show me what I will expect from them.
Varlamov is more a health question mark. When he’s been healthy he’s been pretty consistent, but he hasn’t been healthy. I can understand questioning Alzner because of how it’s played out the last two years, but I don’t worry about him that much as long as they finally give him consistent ice.
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So in an ideal world — no injuries, no falling on face with a terrible 2 month stretch — how would you allot the starts in goal this year? 50-50? 60-40 Neuvirth?
You didn’t ask me, but isn’t that contingent on performance?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly; from what I’ve seen (admittedly limited), I’d go 60/40 Neuvirth.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
/needs more Kevin Klein
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
They should just sign a cheap backup (like Jose Theodore) and let Pickard play the whole year in the A.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m pining for a backup like Jose, for sure – Rinne’s prone to a few slip ups and I don’t trust Chet or Dex yet. Maybe GMDP will listen – I advocated signing Lombardi and picking Watson at OtF already, that worked ok.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Looks like Dekanich was a lot better last year in Milwaukee than Pickard was.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely was. He might do alright, and I suppose you’re going to have to roll the dice with him at some point anyway.
Down the road, Pickard and Anders Lindback are going to battle for the 1A spot here. As good as Rinne is, I’m not even sure he gets another contract here.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s a lot smarter too.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jul 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I knew F/B would rec this.
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Tandem? What tandem? Rinne’s unequivocally the man right now. Looks like the backup will be Mark Dekanich from the AHL.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
tandem was too strong a word : ) I like Rinne but do you see him getting a Marty Brodeur workload this year?
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I’d like him to get 70 starts. When he’s playing well; there are very few goalies better. He singlehandedly kept us in that playoff series, and get this – he was 9-2 in March with a 1.81, .934, and four shutouts.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I would go in with the intention of going 50/50 and basically just alternating starts. When one goalie gets hot, ride him for that period by giving him 2:1 starts. He’ll cool off and the other guy will get hot. Obviously, once injuries hit you have to adjust but I think 50/50-hot hand is the way to go.
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I would agree with this, but Varly does not start well. I would expect Neuvy to have a few more starts in Oct-Nov.
based on a statistical sample of 1 year?
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you have to play Varly at least half the time, if not out of fairness to tenure. If Neuvy ends up being more consistent, let his play over the year earn him the distinction.
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Eff fairness of tenure. Play who wins.
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I guess I’m unfairly resuming a performance wash between the two.
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by winterion on Jul 7, 2010 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Presuming*. Bad iPhone.
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I’m on board with RMNB’s suggestion of either Belanger or Madden to provide depth at C. I’m intrigued to see what Mackan can do based on the confidence the organization seems to be showing in him (as well as MP), but I think it’s imperative to get a good faceoff/defensive guy to be the 3C. I’d rather Belanger but you have to think Madden would take a one-year deal. And Madden brings a lot of veteran leadership.
Besides, Madden would fill the minimum roster requirement of two Wolverines.
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Can we find someone from Michigan State? That could really blow up the lockerroom.
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one of the six bazilllion Millers?
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Don’t laugh, they’re royalty there, I’m pretty sure.
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55 years and 10 Millers? Yeah, pretty much. Although now MSU has a “Chelios,” too (Dean, just finished his freshman year).
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Uh, Ryan Rishaug of TSN tweeting Jeff Schultz has signed for 4 years and 11m.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Long term for less than $3m per. Not bad.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, strikes me as a very economical deal considering Schultz’s talent/skillset relative to the other defensemen signed last week.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I was guessing that 2.75 would be his arb award, but of course that’s just a guess. At least they didn’t go higher.
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I don’t know. Not taking anything away from Schultz’s strong year, but for a guy who started the year as the 6/7 d-man, didn’t look good in the playoffs and RFA years left, I would’ve liked to have another year of him on a one year deal before committing that money/term. They must really have feared arbitration.
I can’t wait to see OFB’s reaction.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Moar snarl!
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Somewhere pucksandbooks just shuddered
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 7, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Including MP, Calznerson, Sloane, Erskine, B Gordo and Schultz at 2.75/year in the calculation, the Caps have about $10M in cap space left.
10 forwards, 7 D, 2G at that figure.
They need another 3 forwards. Fehr will be one of them. Then a center and a spare forward.
Could possibly stick Sloane or Erskine in Hershey and add a D.
Interesting times.
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Yeah, I’m thinking he starts the season in DC.
Having seen what 121 points and a presidents trophy gets you (Richard) in the playoffs, I wouldn’t be surprised to see GM content to assemble a roster that will be good enough to make the playoffs, and then try to load up with an early trade for a pending UFA and some deadline acquisitions.
Or not. What do I know?
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Yeah, I’m thinking he starts the season in DC.
Tied up and gagged in a closet.
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If he’s on the roster, BB is going to play him. The only way he’s not on the roster is either if he departs via trade, or if he pushes himself into arb and gets an obscene number.
I’m holding out hope that he gets traded, but his value is pretty low, given his stretch swoon and his playoff performance.
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If he comes back in better shape than last year (and he was in great shape to start the season because he hadn’t been allowed on the ice, so he was in the gym nonstop) and he talks about his new commitment to lifting weights, I might even be happy to see him.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he started the season as a 6/7 – I think he was in the press box because the team was trying to play Juice and Mo and find a trade partner. Once that petered out, he was in and getting 17-20 minutes a night.
I think they wanted to avoid a one year deal because they were afraid another good season would drive the price up more. 2.75 might be more than it’d take to get him now, but it’s almost certainly less than he’d otherwise be getting in years three and four.
$2.75M per, if my mental math is correct?
Sigh. So much for something under 2. Guess that was always a pipe dream.
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Yeah, that was never happening. When ShaMo was getting paid around 2, I knew Schultz is going to get more.
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G.O.D, your $5 is in the mail? :)
now, where is that “Happy Jeff Schultz Day!” photo?
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
And they get him for his first UFA eligibility year too? Nicely done.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 7, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s an awesome deal, especially considering what FA’s were getting on the open market this year. I anticipate that we’ll have a very strong D core for the next four years and then we’ll be able to fill in the rest around Ovie/Backstrom.
Here’s hoping. If he continues to improve he’s going to be tough to re-sign.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The term is what makes this more palatable (assuming he stays healthy), I agree. It takes him into his prime years.
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One thing I don’t like about this deal is that he’s UFA at the end. But at least he’ll be around through the contracts of the other three young D. B
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They can start negotiations on another extension on July 1, 2013
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m aware. But he still has the UFA leverage and can pull a Hamhuis. Not that there’s any reason to think he will at this point. But it is preferable to be able to keep your young players on an RFA deal for as long as possible. But they couldn’t both have a long term deal, and another RFA deal in this case.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you mean by pull a Hamhuis? Nashville never really wanted to re-sign him.
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I just mean test the market despite teams with his rights pursuing him (Philly and Pitt, not Nash). That’s not a knock on Hamhuis, for the record.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, okay. I misinterpreted.
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What I really meant by that is that Jeff Schultz is the kind of player who never hits the UFA market. I bet the Caps just keep on extending him.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Keep on extending him??? He’s already 6’6!
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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 7, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Given how much FA defenders have been getting, this is a good deal. You can’t compare it to deals from the past, because the salary cap keeps increasing.
Waiting 'til next year.
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by ThePeerless on Jul 7, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In addition, Michael Nylander was placed on waivers this morning.
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Something tells me he goes unclaimed… :P
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
NASHVILLE (AP) – The Nashville Predators have announced today they have come to terms with Michael Nylander on a 5 year contract….
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NASHVILLE (AP) – A man’s body was recovered at the bottom of the Cumberland River today, marking the 3rd suicide since the Nashville Predators signed center Michael Nylander to a long term deal…
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it would just be heads exploding at the sight of GMDP signing 2 forwards in the same offseason.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 7, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, that already happened – Lombardi and Kostitsyn. Color me impressed.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
In a related story, the Nashville Predators now have no fan base.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
lol, i feel like that guy doesnt even deserve a meme
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Maybe not if the Isles still need to make the Cap floor. A guy who counts for more than he gets paid takes on some extra value in that situation.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 7, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, best of luck. It’s a shame it didn’t work out in DC and Nyls conducted himself as a professional throughout a very difficult situation.
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Very much so. Best of luck to him.
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Nylander’s gonna be a valuable asset for the Islanders, what with a 1.875 million dollar difference between his salary and his cap hit. That oughta help them reach the floor.
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by Wheeler on Jul 7, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How come we would have taken a cap hit last year but not this year? Because it is the last year of the contract?
I know, that is because they didn’t waive him. But I thought they WOULD have taken a cap hit had they waived him, which is why they didn’t waive him. So my question is why no cap hit for waiving him this year?
he had to go on waivers every X number of days, right? Until the Caps found a place for him, of course.
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If we put him on reentry waivers, we’d have to take half his cap hit for the remainder of the deal. By stashing him in Finland, we didn’t.
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"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
So back to my original question, why do we take no cap hit this year? Gosparkly said we take no cap hit this year.
you don’t get a cap hit for waiving someone. We couldn’t waive him last year because of the no-movement clause. he had to consent. We only would take a cap hit if we put him on re-entry waivers and someone claimed him – by stashing him in Finland last year, we didn’t have to put him on re-entry waivers.
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Well, if another team claims him off waivers, then they take his cap hit. The Caps don’t.
If nobody claims him, we can loan him to a Finnish/Swiss/Russian club and have them pay some or all of his salary. In that case, he’s a non-roster player, and his cap hit doesn’t count against the cap.
If he doesn’t agree to such a loan agreement, we can stash him in the minors and have him healthy scratched each night in Hershey.
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KarlW, you’re thinking of re-entry waivers which what Nyls would need to clear to come up to the NHL. On re-entry waivers, the cap hit is split 50/50 on the claiming and original teams.
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Source?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 7, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoa. Didn’t see that one coming.
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Pretty surprising. I had read all the speculation that he’d never go to Russia because he married a North American chick. I guess for a few million extra per year….
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This is getting hilarious.
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getting?
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With…what…MONEY??
Gimme Carter, Philly. Just hand him over. You get nothing back because you have, wait for it…NO MONEY.
by Becca H on Jul 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If the Caps can’t get Mikko Koivu; Jeff Carter would be amazing.
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I’d be more than happy with Carter.
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Carter would be great, but what would the Caps give back? It’d have to be prospects/picks, and probably a pretty good haul. A lot of teams would be in on Carter.
You can afford to lose one of the goaltenders.
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I have no interest in solving PHI’s goaltending issue.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 7, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not for Carter?
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Meh. He’s been disappointing in the playoffs, already makes 5, and only has one year left on his deal. It’s a tough call, but it’s not a no-doubt “yes.”
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Well, yeah. All depends on what you have to give up.
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In a vacuum, I’d take Carter at that cap hit. Up in the air about what I’d part with in order to get him.
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Rec’d. We might be able to “afford” to give up a goaltender, but the plus of one of those goalies to the Flyers might be more than the plus of Carter to the Caps.
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Philly screwed themselves. I’m only interested in Carter if the return is a bag of defective pucks.
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You’re crazy.
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She’s not serious. She’d happily trade Flash for Carter in a heartbeat.
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DEAL.
But that’s why I said they get nothing back! They got themselves into this mess, they have to lose someone they don’t want to lose – not someone of their hand-picked choosing like Gagne, someone who can stay healthy for more than 3 seconds.
…although god help me, I love Gagne, too. He needs to play somewhere not evil.
Philly got themselves into this mess. Why should anyone have to give up prime prospects to help Philly get out of their own cap hell?
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Because Jeff Carter is a helluva 2C. And the Caps need one.
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He’s really had the one great year. No doubt he’d be a huge upgrade, but I don’t know how much longer we can afford him and he has a knack for missing playoff empty nets.
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You wouldn’t have to afford him much longer, would you? Johansson will be ready soon. One year of Carter gives you that much better Cup chances.
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No thanks. If we are talking about one year Carter and fixing PHI’s goalie problem I definitely pass. Any trade is predicated on Carter becoming part of our core.
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OK, fair enough, next question – (albeit a difficult one) how much of the future are you willing to mortgage for a Cup?
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The trick is in figuring out which one. Once upon a time, the Caps guessed right (or rather, the Bruins guessed wrong) in which goalie to pick. But it’s not an exact science, and the jury is still out on which kiddie goalie (if any of them) end up becoming the star.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 7, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
if the Bruins had guessed right……man, I don’t even want to think about that.
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With…what…MONEY
Well, they do have $500K in cap space, according to Capgeek…
Why would they want Zherdev, by the way?
Don’t really get that part of it.
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Must be trading Gagne or Carter.
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Gotta be Carter. Can’t imagine there’s that much of a market for Gagne, who just can’t stay healthy?
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Gagne also has an NTC which limits their options.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
That must make him feel good, no?
Imagine if your boss came to you and said, “Will you agree to move to another department? I need you to do that. I don’t know which department yet, but I’m sure you’ll like it.”
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I’d love it! But…I hate my job. So there’s that ;) But yeah, I know what you mean – you almost have to waive it because obviously they don’t want you there.
Although in this case he might feel a little less hurt because of the cap situation they’ve stupidly put themselves in.
Does that get waived unconditionally, or can he waive it for certain teams?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He can waive it for certain teams. That’s been done before. Recent reporting around the Savard to Calgary rumors, for example.
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(Arnott would only waive to go to NJ, Dallas, or some other place I can’t remember)
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Pretty sure he can waive it for certain teams. Jason Arnott did.
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Hey — are you following the back and forth on the Schultz thread? Lots o’ emotions and irrationality.
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Good point.
Actually wanted to make light of it.
I hate hate hate people who argue with no solution or people that refuse to change their opinion or acknowledge that the other side has some validity.
I made a rational post asking for real answers, and the conversation ended. Shock. Awe.
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Checking into it now.
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I’m also thinking – what if they don’t deal him. How do you go back there?
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They’ll get rid of someone…it’s bag of pucks time if they get really pressed. Zherdev will almost certainly put them over the top.
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right now, they have $577,737 in cap space, without Zherdev, assuming they use the bonus cushion. That’s for 12 F, 7 D, and 2 G.
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and they want to bring Carcillo back, too. His QO should have been just about $1m.
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Zherdev’s arb award when he walked from the NYR was $4M…have to think he’s going to cost at least $2.5M, but my guess would be in the 3’s.
Plus Carcillo, as noted below.
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They are still in the window of salary cap overage, correct?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
according to capgeek, Rob Niedermayer signed with Buffalo, 1 year, $1.5mil
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Apparently Pittsburgh and Edmonton were also bidding for him. Roll THAT around in your brain for a minute – he would rather play in Buffalo than either of those cities, including one where Sid the God plays.
Please. It’s God the Sid.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 7, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Includes performance bonuses on a 1 year 35+ contract, at the moment, it’s listed at 1.15M…note, the connection with Lindy Ruff /Florida Panthers years.
sorry, typo on my part. you’re correct, it’s $1.15
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…I know. ’Twas a joke.
Although really once you’re in the $1-1.5 million range it’s not like the difference would be that big that he wouldn’t choose to go somewhere for slightly less.
You’re nuts. If Edmonton offered $1M and Buffalo offered $1.5M, I’m pretty sure that’s a big enough difference to sway someone to go for the money.
Damn right you do :P And it’s a decent point, I’ll grant you.
But since we don’t know what the different offers were, I’m sticking with my funny "ha ha he rejected Pittsburgh to go to Buffalo joke. :)
I think I’ve mentioned this before, but because I think I’m the smartest person alive, I’ll repeat it:
Fans are more than happy to spend owners’ money and sign contracts for a lower value for our favorite players.
I’m sure we all can’t count how many times we’ve heard someone say, “Player X already has $20 million! Why does he need $4 million more?” Because it’s $4 freakin’ million, that’s why!
the fact that one of the offers is Edmonton is enough to sway me to the other team.
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Whoever had Corvo as the first FA re-signing, collect your winnings. Corvo back to Carolina, 2 years.
$4.5 million total – so he’s making just $500K less than Sarge over the next 2 years. Can we all agree that Schultz > Corvo? Looking more and more like a steal than ever.
Vogs’ wondering about “where Pothier, Morrisonn, Sutton, Mitchell and others come in.” is more interesting/potentially good.
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Corvo helps set the market for those guys, don’t you think? So, lower than that. Substantially lower for Pothier, Mo and Sutton, I would think.
Mitchell, somewhere between 1.65 and 1.9?
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Figure he’s going to have to suck up a smaller deal for a year, given his health issues?
I was waaaaaay optimistic with Schultz, though, so take this for what it’s worth (hint: not much).
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I think if the Caps sign Mitchell it will/should be one year, $2.5-3 million. A slight pay cut from last year, short-term deal to let him prove that he’s completely healthy.
The fact that Sutton is still out there makes me nervous. We were rumored to be in on those negotiations (although that usually means we’re not, but who knows?)
Maybe they should let the interns run the ship. Of course, they did forget to mention one of our young D…
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by Rob Parker on Jul 7, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I couldn’t even get through it. the style of writing over there drives me nuts.
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Also need a week or two at Japers’ U to get some of their facts straight:
The Caps perhaps could have had a few more [solid role players] last offseason if they had gotten creative with their salary cap and signed guys like Ovi and Semin to long deals that resulted in small cap hits during their first season or two of the new contracts.
Due to their shortsightedness and fiscal ineptitude Chicago now has to essentially sell off a large part of the soul of their team.
The short and sweet of it is, Washington should want nothing to do with Chicago’s managerial style.
Hmm, sounds like OFB should be glad we didn’t sign AV to a long expensive contract.
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Florida
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Washington
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