Caps Acquire D.J. King
by Becca H on Jul 28, 2010 5:56 PM EDT
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The Washington Capitals have acquired left wing D.J. King from the St. Louis Blues in exchange for prospect Stefan Della Rovere, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today.
King, 26, is a 6’3", 230-pound veteran of 101 NHL games. The Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan, native has posted nine points (four goals, five assists) and 185 penalty minutes in his time with the Blues. He played 12 games in St. Louis and 10 games for Peoria of the American Hockey League (AHL) in 2009-10, seeing limited time due to a broken finger. He is under contract through the 2011-12 season.
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According to wikipedia, he also signed a two-year extension. So uh…yeah!
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
You don’t sign a guy to that deal just to stow him in the AHL. He’s a healthy scratch/fourth liner, I think.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Gotta be. One way deals don’t stay in the A very often.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I LOVE THIS
I’ve been posting good things about this guy on here for two seasons.
If he never touches a puck, I’ve seen him play live in Dallas – people will be watching the hell out for him all over the ice. He has hulking presence even if he never throws a punch.
He can skate and has decent hands, he’s just had some bad luck with injuries.
How is his defensive responsibility and awareness? He seems to have low PIMs for a fighter.
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I don’t have a ton of mental situational footage but in general I thought as a package he had more talent available than his actual game performance/stats reveal. While he’s not a “skill” player, I think his development has been stalled by two long-term injuries and perhaps an organization that wasn’t helping him grow dimensionally to his potential.
Barring an unrealistic growth spurt some fans are probably going to say he’s a waste of ice time/space. But – as a few of us are saying – that could also be an indicator of his presence being effective given the complexion of this coming season’s Caps roster vs the militarizing of rosters around the conference.
Another relevant mental note was that he might be a fighter with glass wrists, which isn’t a very effective combo…
I’m, um, confused. Why would GMGM make a move like this?
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I have to ask – did anyone see in dev camp why GMGM wouldn’t be so high on SDR?
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Ok, taking away my like for SDR, what is the point of acquiring DJ King???
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Not a whole lot, if you consider that the Capitals don’t need a guy good at punching things. Even if SDR doesn’t pan out, he still brings a lot more intangibles than King. I guess its an alright trade, but meh.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
A couple potential thoughts came up in the Clips thread.
One, he gets parked in the AHL where he squires for the young centermen who are learning their trade in the rough-and-tumble AHL. And he’s available for callup should Derek Boogard, Colton Orr, Jody Shelley or Dan Carcillo need a dance partner. Or when David Koci comes back to town.
Two, he gets an NHL sweater as the HS most nights, which means there’s some crowding on the roster, and another move is forthcoming.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
He’d beat the shit out of Carcillo; they’re nowhere near in the same class.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
But Carcillo would beat the shit out of Bradley, the next toughest guy on the list. And when Steckel is dropping them with Konopka at the end of a laugher, you can see why a guy like King might come in handy.
Just thinking out loud.
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I can definitely see why, but its going to bump someone useful out of the lineup. King has no skill at all.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe we’re merging him with Flash. DJ King at least has a heart.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
This is true. When you consider everything, I wouldn’t have a problem with the deal if I were y’all.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
In a vacuum, they might’ve been, but its not always that simple. Knee jerk tweeting ftw.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if this is it. Looking for a heart and soul guy? Jury’s out, IMO.
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Delly was nuffin’ if not heart and soul.
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Not sure about that – heart and soul is usually accompanied by work ethic and discipline.
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I can buy work ethic, but not necessarily discipline. Wasn’t Hunter a heart and soul guy?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
I mean personal discipline off-ice more than “bad penalties” discipline.
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Does personal discipline include his off ice history post retirement and his stealing Calle Johansson’s pants on every road trip?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Not that I don’t love Dale Hunter – I’m just saying~
I actually love the silly stories about stealing Calle’s pants and stuff.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Yeah, that’s not the kind of stuff I’m talking about.
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I think he always worked. And the discipline was improving.
He was also the captain of a team that was so similar to the President’s Trophy-winning Caps it was scary – and they got dismantled in four straight by Windsor.
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perfect!
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by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Jul 28, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
If he’s the HS guy most nights, then he’s bumping Sloan out of the lineup, which is an upgrade, in that King has an identifiable NHL-quality skill (fighting), which is one more than Sloan has.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Yeah, if it bumps Sloan out, I don’t have a problem with it at all, which (depending on King’s contract hit, I haven’t looked) could lead to a d-man signing that enables JE4 to be a HS most nights.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
If the end result is Sloan’s gone and DJ King’s here, it’s a win.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
That’s fine. I’m only suggesting him in for Sloan if we’re picking up another defenseman. That’s about it.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
I’m still confused where you’re going with this. Sloan is 6/7D right now.
DJ is a douche and a left wing.
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Assume King gets HS’d most nights, which is where Sloan would usually be. That means Sloan’s place on the roster is taken, and gives the team a slot to use on an upgraded defenseman.
If that makes any sense.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
healthy scratched?
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
DJ is a douche and a left wing.
We need more douches to play with Ovie?
/talbot’d
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by macvechkin on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m curious as to how we’ve decided that King is a douche – from what I understand he’s a good guy off the ice who can fight. I don’t claim to know a lot about him but I’ve never heard his name tossed around as being an ass.
(I was pretty much joking, I’m sure he’s a nice guy)
Now that Ovi guy…
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its going to bump someone useful out of the lineup
Quintin Laing?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Laing wasn’t re-signed. For some reason I was thinking the Caps had one too many fourth liners now.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If King is on the Caps roster, they do:
King, Stecks/Gordo, Brads; or
Chimera/King, Stecks/Gordo, Brads.
Depending on who you have slotted in at 2L and 3L.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
My point is more that Q was on the roster pretty much the entire season last year, and played in very few games.
I’m amending what I said in the other thread. I don’t think this is an AHL move at all now. I think DJK takes over the Quintin Laing Memorial Chair in the Department Of Eating Nachos. He’s there when you need him, and you hope you don’t.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
@JapersRink There was the thought among some covering the team(s) that Della Rovere has peaked and will have trouble at the AHL level (much less NHL).
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 5:59 PM EDT reply actions
Was there any indication of this in dev camp that any of you saw?
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it looked to me like he was too easily agitated to be an agitator, but no indication skill-wise.
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
A line of comments on this topic.
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Can you know be more specific about the source(s) of the original analysis?
Probably not, I am guessing, but thought I’d ask.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I can’t quite tell if Marek agrees with the assessment that SDR will play in the NHL, or if he disagrees with the identification of SDR as a power forward (that second part seems a bit suspect, given his size) but…
Becca:
See those horses running away from you? Might want to hold ’em. RT @andystrickland: Della Rovere Strong power forward […] will play in NHL
Jeff Marek
@DCCheapSeats I’ve watched his entire career in the ohl and respectfully disagree w/that assessment of SDR.
Marek was responding to me saying he should read JP’s tweet about his sources and what they say about Delly’s likelihood as an AHL/NHL player.
I would think MB 10 at RW, DJK ?? at LW. B. Gordon and D. Steckel are both 4th line centers right now – if there’s another move to be made, I think it’s one of them.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Bradley and Gordon are UFAs at the end of next year, so if King is a remotely viable 4th liner, he becomes a cheaper and younger alternative.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, which is why I see this as not a big deal, pending how SDR’s career pans out. We got younger and cheaper at the back end, which means we can do more at the front.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
I had hopes for SDR, and liked the guy, and don’t really think the Caps “need” an enforcer, but they picked up young guy with NHL experience, and gave up a guy who wasn’t trusted by the bears enough to get much ice time after his junior season ended.
I hope over reaction doesn’t reach Chris “Smith” levels.
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Nothing yet. CI has it and STL dispatch has it, but the team hasn’t announced it yet.
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team announced via twitter
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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
1:1
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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 28, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
My early read is that the caps are thinking they need some enforcer-type protection for all the rookie centermen they’ll be auditioning this year.
They’ll give Pinizzotto a look at camp but he’s not really an enforcer, so he goes back down and King dresses to protect Perreault and Johansson.
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for whatever its worth, the Caps got bigger, and got a player that can be reasonably expected to “contribute” at the NHL level this season
King is 6’3, 230 LBS
SDR is 5’10, 196 LBS
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Give him a break, it’s his first full day with electricity.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate this. So, so much. No amount of rationalizing could change my stubborn mind.
by Alex Reed on Jul 28, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There goes my hell line. Dammit.
On an optimistic note, the guy can fight. Though I really, really hope this isn’t a response to what Talbot said. If so, then what the f***?
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In my humble opinion, anyone who thinks that this has anything whatsoever to do with what Talbot said yesterday is misguided.
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I understand that. Just wondering…with the suddenness of this move, why’d GMGM feel the need to make it? That’s what I’ll be chomping on for the remainder of today.
Like I said, though, from what I’ve seen of him, he’s a good fighter. He broke Boogaard’s nose.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing says this move wasn’t on the table pre-development camp, conditional on how SDR impressed Caps brass.
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Conditional on getting all the RFA’s signed. Flash signed late last night, let the trading begin.
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by EmilyB on Jul 28, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good point.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
with the suddenness of this move
July 25 – why won’t GMGM do anything?
July 26 – why won’t GMGM do anything?
July 27 – why won’t GMGM do anything?
July 28 – SDR for DJK? Whoa, hold your horses there chief. Isn’t that a bit sudden?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 25 recs
Bahahaha. Nice.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Rec’tacular.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I was never in that category and am questioning the move.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 28, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice. Yeah, I don’t know how sudden the move was, but take a look at the East. The way the Conference is going, it doesn’t hurt to have a heavyweight with a great attitude who’s willing to take spot duty on the roster. There’s simply no way this move makes the 2010-11 Capitals (or even likely the 2011-12 Caps) any worse.
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by J.P. on Jul 28, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Mobile rec.
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by gotsparkly on Jul 28, 2010 8:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
this is by far the best thing to happen in the last 8 hours
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 29, 2010 2:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously the move wasn’t a response to what Talbot said. But King did have something to say about the matter.
When told about Max Talbot’s A.O. comments, D.J. King said, “Wow. I guess that’s not going to be happening too much longer, I guess.”
Me likey.
by Alex Reed on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Loving me some echo :D
But this is a good enough quote to be around in multiple places.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
he did it to disguise the true statement
that’s not going to be happening too much longer
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And he mostly comes to fight…mostly…
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by macvechkin on Jul 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I’m hearing that King has an opinion on the Talbot comments?
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
I’m hearing Ms. Iowa has an opinion on Miguel Batista. You know it’s the summer when all this shit is non-stop news.
That had to have been the dumbest thing EVER. Batista wasn’t saying Miss Iowa was bad, just that Miss Universe has more cache, if you will. Oy.
Maybe he should have been more political, being in DC and all…“it’s like coming to see the President and getting the junior Representative from Montana.”
the Miss Iowa pageant has extended and invite for Batista to come be a judge at the pageant in October. :) they got the joke.
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But what does he think about Albert Haynesworth?
by Stormblue on Jul 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So, what's the consensus?
Is King an AHL pickup, or on the big league roster?
The extension is hard to reconcile with an AHL addition, but that’s the only thing that makes me think he’s not going to the AHL.
I’ll say he’s destined for the AHL.
Vote now.
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VC press box + spot duty against teams with goons.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. He has a one-way deal, and the Caps are taking a chance on his being healthy.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Yep. Fact is, you don’t typically put one way deals in the AHL. He’ll do a damn good job of keeping you from getting pushed around, and then go for more nachos.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
This is probably correct.
Some videos:
Shelley vs. King – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3to_1NzjWU
King vs. Colton Orr – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0e_rqBRrXg
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and...
The guy broke Boogaard’s nose. That ain’t bad.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this one against Barch in 2009.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSh2Z8eDvzs&feature=related
I went to a fight, and a hockey game broke out!
If he’s tossing off the gloves against the Boogeyman, that’s a guy with balls.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
Watched all of these . . .
. . . and, well, this guy will go.
Loved the (Minny?) announcer in the Boog fight: “This is a battle of the super-heavyweights.”
...
King is a legit NHL-caliber enforcer when healthy. Key word is when. The guy has had shoulder surgeries and a significant hand injury last year. Both of which are kind of important for a fighter, no?
I don’t love the trade, but I don’t hate it either. Della Rovere is a 7th round guy who I think a lot of fans sort of fell in love with (a sort of “he may be an asshole, but he’s OUR asshole” kind of dynamic), but definitely has a 4th line ceiling.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Bottom line, this tells you what the Caps thought about SDR at development camp. Time will tell if they’re right.
As a Blues fan
King is a hell of a fighter and will take on anyone and take down all of them and he isn’t a total waste on offense. Just hope he stays healthy he’s had a rough couple of years to say the least.
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Good to hear perspective from another side – question for you as a Blues fan – you gonna miss him?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Not a whole lot
since we still have Cam Janssen as an enforcer with similar talent on offense. King wins more fights but Cam gives the rest of the team more energy so they are very similar
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So it’s one of those “one’s gotta go, and this one makes the most sense?”
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Yup that's it exactly
I think what tipped the scale is that Cam is a St Louis native so the fans love him more
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I remember Cam
Yes I do.
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There are two sides of Janssen
The side where he delivers questionable hits (Kaberle, Bradley)
And the side where he levels kids like Smokey McFornicate.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Appreciate the feedback.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s a tad much for what he is, but it isn’t a ridiculous number.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh. It’s annoying either way. Also I’m still bummed SDR is gone.
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I think you’re mainly just bummed because SDR is gone.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Acoording to Glen Sather logic, which I assume GMGM was using today, he’s actually underpaid.
Overall, it could come back to bite the Caps down the road, but overall I’m more confused than anything else. I don’t see a need for an enforcer period. And if we are going to have one how about one with some sort of skill level.
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When Koci runs Green, and you don’t have anyone to deter it; when Konopka picks a fight with Stecks at the end of a blowout; when Downie tries to drop them with AO…a feral beast can come in handy.
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by fat_daddyo on Jul 28, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Indeed. And if he has some offensive potential – hey, you never know.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone on Twitter lied!!!!1
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see how with the team we have and the style we play he can’t get 7-10 points this season.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
From what the Twitter folks have been floating around, he’s got decent hands…who knows?
Remember Brashear against Philly in Game 1? Heh.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Shoulder + Hand injury = it’s unlikely the guy’s going to score much. We didn’t pick him up to score.
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Of course, of course.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OT – I’m a fan of your new sig. I’m a huge Miguel fan dating back to his days back in AZ.
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Also OT – Miss Iowa is no slouch.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
No way – especially to the tune of 3 hits, 1 walk and 6 strikeouts.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean the real thing, but yeah, Batista wasn’t bad.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I know…I was kidding.
And I just saw the pictures – you are freakin’ right.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. Just a classic.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The hand injury was a broken finger
Which he broke against another players face so it shouldn’t impact his passing or shooting anymore. He isn’t going to light up the scoreboard but if you play him he’ll probably get a few points…. and scare the piss out of the other team
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Just one of those “Gotta keep my head up, or it’ll get taken off” guys?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
There's some of that
but there’s a little more of him taking the guy out after he does something first. Not as much agitator as a true enforcer. You do anything then you know you’ll have to deal with him.
No one knows why, but second only to eating the brains of the living, the dead love affordable pre-fab furniture.
And that does what excatly? Green already been run. I find it amusing that plenty of people questioned the Hawks “toughness” after little to no real retaliation for injuries their guys suffered last season, yet somehow they won the Cup.
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If you recall, stecks actually called konopka out in the face off circle, not the other way around. Pretty much the biggest, “what the f were you thinking” moment of the year.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 28, 2010 9:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is my thought. Why bother to trade for him? We don’t need an enforcer.
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Yeah, but more overpaid, so the club can, maybe, get cheaper.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
Not both, really? Just one for regular duty.
Green, Schultz
Poti, Carlson
Alzner-????
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Hey, to be fair, ???? is an underrated defenseman.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Better than Sloan, for certain.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I void this statement btw. It’s not that much, but too much to me.
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We need an enforcer! We need an enforcer! We need an enforcer! We need an enforcer!
Well, now we have one! He’s going to enforce the double dipping rules on the nachos up in the press box.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
And take care of business if the nachos have mouseturds in them.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
by gotsparkly on Jul 28, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yet, still gets the Caps no closer to a Cup.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
Depending on how far SDR goes, no promises it takes us further away either.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Trot, trot, trot in place…trot, trot, trot in place…
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree there. I just don’t get wasting cap space on a goon without skill. This guy isn’t Tie Domi.
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If he’s replacing Q Laing, who couldn’t really do anything at an NHL level, is it really wasting cap space.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Jul 28, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does it?
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
fighting is an integral part of dumping and chasing, as well as making Mike “the moves” Green not cross-check someone after he loses the puck. It also really helps put a goalie off of his game. It also greatly helps the abysmal PK.
Sour, really sour on this. Tired of the people thinking David Koci is afraid to get into a fight after he makes a run on someone like Green. They’re paid to go out and hurt people and getting into fights is part of their paycheck.
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Couldn't put Humpty together again
So does this move make Erskine more redundant? If you buy that Erskine was on the team for “snarl” and to chip in as a part time brawler, do the Caps play king when Erskine is in the press box and vice versa? Does Erskine get moved for peanuts?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
It’s more alarming to me that Sloan may be playing on nights that King dresses, because of said redundancy. Terrifying actually.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Erskine can’t brawl with Boogy or Koci; King can.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Peanuts is all they’d probably get considering who’s still out there on the FA market.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll tell you this — I’m much happier when my enforcer is a wing than a Dman
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. And one who can win his fights (no disrespect to Bradley, who clearly is more pure awesome, than enforcer)
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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 28, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
A Blues fan-friend of mine has assured me that the injuries appear to be more of the “freak” nature than some sort of recurring problem. Just food for thought.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
also...
He said that the alarming 13 games in two years fact has more to do with the Blues fiddling with Cam Jansen, than being some sort of liability out there on the 4th line (at least, as much of a liability as an enforcer can be).
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Making Comparisons
Caps Enforcer: 2008-09
Caps Enforcer: 2009-10
Caps Enforcer: 2010-11
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 16 recs
I still can’t believe I missed that game – but I did love watching it later and hearing the “PO-TI! PO-TI!” chants at VC. When will that EVER happen again? :P
I hope it happens at least once more preferably against the Rangers, just so we can listen to Scotty explode
Aim for the head baby Jesus
by Doncosmic on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’ll rec this. The guy’s attitude about Poti, especially Poti being healthy being reacted to with snark about how he’s “Glad Poti’s ok, totally, yeah, Glad he’s ok” or something, and how he writes on his blog, I’m not a fan of his at all and I’ve never hid that.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
As a rep from the Poti-Party, soon. Very soon.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I think it’s up to Ovechkin to change his, actually.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Then the VC will be adorned with the “Our 87 is better than your 87” during Caps – Pens games.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay, 2007 all over again!
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
And....
You forgot this one:
(Though, three goals on a 9m PP was pretty badass.)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Per Tarik:
When told about Max Talbot’s A.O. comments, D.J. King said, “Wow. I guess that’s not going to be happening too much longer, I guess.”
I kinda like him already.
by Wheeler on Jul 28, 2010 6:35 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
So we picked him up to be a douche so people will hate Ovechkin less?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
I read it as he’s looking forward to knocking out Max’s teeth.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I did too.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I support this idea, and like DJ King a lot more now.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
I like that attitude.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Via Tarik:
When told about Max Talbot’s A.O. comments, D.J. King said, “Wow. I guess that’s not going to be happening too much longer, I guess.”
Hey, I’ll take it.
"Imagine if you go see Mrs. Universe, then you end up having Mrs. Iowa. Then you might get those kind of boos." - Miguel Batista
Thats pretty classic.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 28, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope this is step one of a couple step move. I was really looking forward to SDR at some point :(
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
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Save yourself the time – King won’t be playing in that game unless the league vetos the trade.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
The 2C matter is settled then – at least for the first part of the season. They’re throwing the wet-behind-the-ears crew into the mix and see who Flashes at 2C. As such they needed someone to take a little more fight out of the opposition – who could actually catch the opposition. King’s got a few more miles in the league under his belt than other in-house options at this juncture
So, out: SDR, who would in no circumstances see action at the VC this year.
In: DJ King, who potentially takes Q Laing’s spot on the roster, and gives the team the option to run someone out there to goon it up.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
by fat_daddyo on Jul 28, 2010 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This is one of those moves that the more I think about it, the more I don’t think it necessarily helps, but I don’t think it hurts at all. If SDR flourishes in STL, then yeah, we lost, but otherwise, I don’t see at all what’s wrong with this deal, except it pisses off anyone who bought his dev camp uniform.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Great, now I have that freaking Culture Club song stuck in my head…Grrr…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 28, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s called “Karma Chameleon” and it sounds like Boy George is saying “comma” over and over again…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 28, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, so now you know why I say Grrr….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 28, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
SDR was just one of those guys who a lot of people would have loved to see make it. I agree that for this year it’s obviously a win, and while I didn’t buy his uni yet I definitely wanted to!
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Jul 28, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you have specifically against DJ King, or is it more the role he seems destined to play?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Thinking about it, one might come in handy. Keep in mind that we’re going to have a couple of kids in our crease this year plus whoever comes up at center. After watching this dude fight, I think he might make a good deterrent.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I never like trading away an asset for something less than I think its worth in value. Whether that be current value or future value. Obviously, GMGM must think along the lines of people J.P. spoke with. I believe SDR has a chance of being a productive NHL guy. If he had been traded for a guy who does more than throw his fist or more likely been part of a multi-player deal that got the Caps something that made them better then I’d have been more than fine with moving him. I just think the Caps traded potential for…a pair of Everlasts.
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Having watched him some at development camp, I didn’t think he stood out much, and I didn’t think his skating was as strong as some of the other guys. I dunno, I’m not too torn up.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Big winners today – Verizon center shovel guys, who will have a few pints less of Bradley’s blood to clean off the ice next year.
Big losers: Max Talbot. At least in D.J. King’s mind.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 28, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I can hear DJ asking Max if he can fit inside Crosby’s mom’s dryer.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 28, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the pressbox going to be close enough to the ice surface at Heinz for Max to actually hear what DJ is saying?
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
Also per Tarik
Two seasons ago, he suffered a shoulder injury in his first contest of the season and needed season-ending surgery, and last season he broke his hand in a fight with the Stars’ Krys Barch, also in his first game of the season.
I think its clear which game he needs to be healthy scratched for.
Two seasons ago, he suffered a shoulder injury in his first contest of the season and needed season-ending surgery, and last season he broke his hand in a fight with the Stars’ Krys Barch, also in his first game of the season.
Well, one of them will have to be his first.
Insert something witty here.
by Knubles and Bits on Jul 28, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, the picture at the TSN.ca teaser for the trade is SDR, and not DJK.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
DJ King Via CI
“Obviously my role is to stick up for my teammates. But I also [hope to be] more than just that, is what the [Capitals] want. And that’s what I expect out of myself. I always come to the rink every day trying to get better. Because the game is not just about fighting no more. You have to get in there on the forecheck and be a physical presence. They see me as someone who can play the game and be a force out there, not only by dropping the gloves.”
I actually like that mindset. At least he knows.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Yeah, that’s what we’ve got Semin for.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
by Carl Putnam on Jul 28, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So lets take a look at our left wings now:
Ovechkin
Chimera
Steckel
King
Maybe GMGM just wants to go all out with a big bunch of scary mofos on the left
BTW The caps site has Semin as a left wing? heh? Haven’t I seen him play on the right side like every single game?
When did Steckel become a scary mofo?
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Jul 28, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
By being 6’8" without skates?
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
Brooks Laich completing everything from teams to tires and everything in between.
how about this bunny rabbit?
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Tim would warn you about the bunny rabbit. Holy Hand Grenade reference here.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Steckel’s first jab against Konopka was pretty scary. Also, what happened after that first jab was pretty scary as well.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
After watching that fight again, pretty impressive that a) Konopka has a shiner b) he shrugged off that punch completely.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
Oy…could Stecks look more awkward with his little fists poised and ready to go? Poor kid, love him to death but a fighter he is not.
Case in point
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by Rather Bengt on Jul 28, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t Stecks an inch shorter than Sarge?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Jul 29, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Semin s a natural LW but plays right so he can either play with OV or not have to wait around for OV to get off the ice.
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Ahhhh ambidextrous!
Imagine him in a band.
by Brainumbc on Jul 28, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
All I know about King is that he broke his hand on Krys Barch’s face, as referenced by the photo.
I’m curious to see King and Talbot get acquainted.
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by Brad_Richards_Rocks on Jul 28, 2010 7:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I expect you’ll most likely see King when the Caps play teams like the Flyers and Rangers. I think its less likely you’ll see him against the Pens. If the Caps have significant injuries at wing all bets are off.
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That’s a weird situation because Godard likely only sees playing time against the Caps if King is in – and King likely only sees playing time against the Pens if Godard is in. So…who blinks?
Max Talbot.
:: blink ::
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by EmilyB on Jul 28, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Them too. Colton Orr’s a Leaf, right?
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Somewhat likely. I’ll be interested to see what the Leafs final roster looks like. I assume Burke isn’t done yet.
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Brian Burke strikes me as the guy who makes tons of deals in NHL 10 where you trade a 68 for a 70, then the 70 for the 71, then the 71 for a 73, then the 73 for a 74, then the 74 for two 68s…
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What’s out RW situation looking like? Sorry for the probably obvious question.
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Knuble
Semin, I guess?
Fehr
Flash, I guess?
Bradley
A. Gordon, maybe
B. Gordon, if Steckel plays center.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
And Flash is LW when he’s not C.
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Ok. That’s enough. I’m not inviting you to DJ’s welcome to DC party.
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As was mine!!
Loved the tweet earlier though – and I quote: “FUCK, FUCK FUCK”
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Man, I wish I could forget him, too
/s/
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Piss on Eddie Shore. . . Piss on Old Time Hockey
Welcome to the hockey security dilemma folks. As our rivals stock up on goons, pests and thugs, we have little choice but to do the same. There are at least 25 teams in the NHL that have no prayer of hanging with the Caps skill-wise and, as we saw last year, many of these teams tried to take the Caps off their game by playing physically. Brads, Erskine and, to a lesser extent, Chimera were game, but not really effective deterrents. Think about the number of times we all watched Green get absolutely drilled and the offender got away more or less scot-free.
I know some folks around these parts had an attachment to SDR, but his offensive regression this year was a bad sign. 20-year olds playing against 16- and 17-year olds are supposed to dominate offensively. Delly took two big steps backward. I know that the WJC appearances looked impressive on paper, but during the Canada-USA game two years ago he looked downright psychotic and out of control. During this year’s knockout round, he never left the bench after the 2nd period, which implies that his coaches didn’t really trust him. Before folks get all butt-hurt, I’ll point out that the Caps also let go of this guy, who had better stats than Delly and was the captain of a London Knights Memorial Cup team. There wasn’t much anger or gnashing of teeth at that.
In summary, we’ve traded a fringe-y prospect for an elite NHL enforcer who can actually play the game a bit. This is a good trade. Furthermore, I bet I’m not the only one who’s happy with this trade. Following a year that saw every 3rd and 4th line winger in the NHL taking runs at our skill players, and in the midst of an offseason that’s seen our former Patrick division rivals sign Jody Shelley and Derek Boogard, I can assure you that there are a lot of guys on the Caps who breathed a sigh of relief knowing that they won’t get run as often. Or, in the case of Matt Bradley, he won’t have to use his face as a punching bag blood bank as often.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Jul 28, 2010 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 18 recs
First reaction – darn it, the posts had slowed down and here we go again.
Second reaction – very nicely put and rec’d. Add in a note about how little $ we spent compared to Shelley and Boogaard, and you’ll get a double rec.
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I like what you did there.
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Arguing for the sake of argument – I watched the end of Delly’s Colts season fairly closely, and FTR that team was fielding a tremendous amount of ’leet scorers, especially after the trade deadline. Delly stepped down from the top lines gracefully as a captain should to allow his team the best shot. He promptly made the boards and the corners his personal territory and worked them tenaciously. The coach and the team could not say enough about him.
It all came to a screeching halt in the OHL finals, and there are still kinda-sorta lingering questions about exactly what he said to Kain Allicock that one night.
I am prepared to trust in GMGM’s decisions, as I know we need men and not boys to get us to the Cup. So welcome, DJ, and arrivederci to Stefan. Good luck!
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One more regular-season goal for Delly would have made him the EIGHTH 20-goal player on the Colts. If that’s any indication.
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Siiiiiiiiiigh.
I blame me getting it signed, I jinxed it darn it!
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By it, I mean the jersey. Oh well, I got to meet him! Last chance to!
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Can you please ask Tomas Fleischmann for an autograph the next time you see him?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 29, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
I also should add that I’ve previously been against having an enforcer – I didn’t necessarily think it was necessary and I don’t love their role in the game. But the mindset HAS to be “if they’ve got ’em, we need ’em too” or else we lose the war, and after seeing the goons and thugs the rest of the East seems to be picking up, I’m totally on board with this mindset now.
He was given more of a defensive role on the Colts this year. Juuust sayin’.
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Which, again, is a bad sign for a 20 year old playing with teenagers. Part of it was surely the quality of team he was on, but from everything I saw of the kid, it appeared as though h had limited offensive skills and his coaches didn’t always trust him.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
by D'ohboy on Jul 28, 2010 9:13 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Love it—especially relieving Brads as a blood bank. You bring clarity, which I much appreciate.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
First, Mike Green gets run because he isn’t very smart at protecting himself.
Second, SDR’s points went down largely because of a change in role.
Third, SDR wasn’t a psycho at the WJC because Team Canada explicitly asked him not to be such a psycho because it hurt the team.
Fourth, I don’t recall SDR being benched for the entire third period, and I thought he played his role very well.
Fifth, DJK isn’t going to stop anyone from taking runs at our skill guys, and if any of our skill guys feel safer because we have a goon available for 5 or fewer minutes a night then they are sorely mistaken.
That said, I don’t entirely disagree. A very ‘meh’ trade.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree so much on the 5th point. It is their job to go take runs at our top minute players and take any abuse that happens because of it. It’s like saying Laich or Knuble will shy away from sitting in the crease because there is a strong defender ready to knock them around. It is their job, they’re going to do it.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
Ok, how about last year when Adams took a run at Ovie and Knuble had to be the one to fight him? Or how about all the times when Brads had to fight some guy who ludicrously out-classed him?
You had better believe that players know who’s on the other team and who’s on the ice and that they adjust their play accordingly.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
DJK isn’t going to play with Ovechkin probably ever.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Because all responses to thuggery must happen immediately. Brads technically wasn’t on the ice during the Downie incident, but he got through an on-the-fly line change.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
So you have to wait for the stars to align so that DJ King’s five minutes somehow match up with Craig Adams’ five minutes?
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So BB is going to wait for Adams to go on the ice just so he can put DJ King out there to go fight him? Does that sound like what BB would do? Theoretically it’s possible, but that’s just not how the Caps operate, especially under BB.
If BB sees the 4th line go out for a draw, he’s sending out AO’s line, not the 4th line.
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So you’re one of the last few enforcers in the league. You’re making more or less the minimum. Your coach tells you to go rough someone up. You respond “no, I don’t want to get into a fight with DJ King”
How long do you remain in the NHL? A lot of the enforcers can hardly skate or handle the puck, they can pull up anyone in the AHL. No one is going to stop taking runs at Green, Ovechkin etc because King is here.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
It might not stop someone like Koci, but it would probably make someone like Downie, Carcillo, or Chimera think twice before roughing up one of our skill guys.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I don’t think it stops Downie or Carcillo. Those guys are scumbags who like to fight. I don’t think much of anything will deter their cheap shots.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Jul 29, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
King pounding them to a pulp would. Have either of them ever taken on a legit heavyweight enforcer like King?
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I don’t know whether or not they fight real heavyweights, they aren’t very big so that’s way out of their weight class. But they don’t have to fight King if they don’t want to. You think Downie or Carcillo are above ducking a fight against a bigger guy? They are punks, and always will be.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jul 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
King’s not there for the other enforcers – he’s there to deter guys who might like to think they’re tougher than they are, like Adams (as someone mentioned above) or Colby Armstrong or anyone who tries to run them.
I’m not of the mindset that you necessarily need guys like this – my opinion on this is pretty clear and pretty well archived. But at some point we have to toss out the idea that just making them pay on the power play is enough – the bottom line is if the rest of the East is going to have these guys, and some of the “best” are now in the East, then dammit I want someone who can take them on while keeping the rest of the League honest.
I’m not as worried about the enforcers, I’m more worried about guys like Carcillo, Cooke, Downie, etc.
For legal reasons, coaches don’t really tell guys to fight all that much anymore. They just put you out there against the other team’s enforcer – the suggestion to fight is implied. Also, enforcers turn down fights all the time, for a variety of reasons. Take Dan Carcillo as an example. For all his “toughness,” when is the last time you saw him fight one of the real NHL heavyweights? This collection of fights doesn’t seem to include guys like Boogard, King, Laraque or Brashear anywhere. Goons are aware of who’s on the other team and who’s on the ice at any given time, just like you’re aware if the girl you’re flirting with at a bar has a 6’5"/250lb boyfriend with sleeve tats. They may be stupid, but they’re not idiots.
It’s all well and good to suggest that the team would just “call up anyone from the AHL,” but if they want someone who can fight, that guy might not be available. While this may be hard to believe, there’s a reason most NHL enforcers are in the NHL – they’re better fighters / hockey players than the guys plying their trade down in the AHL.
No one is going to stop taking runs at Green, Ovechkin etc because King is here.
Let’s say, just for the sake of argument, that you’re right – enforcers have no effect on the behavior of the opposing team. We can still observe that skill players appreciate having enforcers on their team (as evidenced by Ovie’s comments). If that’s the case, clearly the players feel more secure and confident, even if the enforcer is doing nothing. Wouldn’t this “placebo effect” be enough to justify the enforcer’s presence?
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For legal reasons, coaches don’t really tell guys to fight all that much anymore.
Explain. I assume you mean the whole Bertuzzi incident but the legal problem there wasn’t that Crawford ordered a fight, it was that he had allegedly ordered retribution before the game was even played and allegedly suggested that the retribution not come in the form of a clean fight (which Steve Moore had actually already engaged in).
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A while back in one of the enforcer debates someone (GOD, maybe?) made a great distinction about the types of guys who throw cheap shots.
The first group are goons like Koci whose job is to rough people up and get in fights. Enforcers aren’t going to deter them.
The second group are the pests like Ott or Cooke who throw out cheap shots, but then won’t fight anyone outside of their weight class – if confronted they’ll just turtle and take the PP. Enforcers won’t deter them.
The third group are players that are generally clean but play hard and thus cross the line occasionally – guys like Adams or even Ovechkin. Enforcers won’t deter them because they aren’t looking to throw cheap shots in the first place.
So I really don’t buy that a guy like King will deter cheap shots at all. He’ll just give Boogaard a reason to be on the ice when we play the Rags.
And if the placebo effect makes Green think he can keep skating around with his head up his ass and not protect himself, then it might not be such a good thing.
I’m very indifferent on this trade because I thought SDR was a long shot to begin with. But if King can’t do other things beside fight to make himself a productive 4th liner I don’t think this move helps the Caps win the Cup.
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Jul 29, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll happily take credit for any good ideas that are floating around out there, but I have to say I actually like this deal. Actual hockey players seem to like having enforcers around, so I’m willing to consider that they may have some value (though I don’t know how to quantify it). I have two cardinal rules:
Don’t overpay a goon
Don’t play a goon during the playoffs
As long as the Caps follow these rules, I don’t mind King on the roster at 650,000 and in the lineup for as many regular season games as the team wants.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 29, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
As far as an enforcer not detering anyone.. depends… If an enforcer gives you a solid, all-encompassing, thorough, damn near hospitalizing beat down… ya might think twice
I’m not for the idea of an enforcer for the Caps, but some teams could use them. Even if it doesn’t deter some people, even an image of a giant mammoth pancaking you might cause a subliminal reaction that would make you hesitate for half a second. And half a second in hockey is enough to turn a game around.
I have to strongly disagree with the whole “enforcers don’t deter people” idea. I can’t give numbers to back it up, but here’s what I’ve seen the last two seasons. In 2008-9, when the Caps had Brashear, you rarely (if ever) saw guys take runs at the skill players. Last season, where the enforecers were Bradley, Chimera, and occasionally Erskine, it happened a number of times. Maybe it’s coincidence, but I doubt it.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I remember a few runs being taken at skilled players during 2008-2009, even with Brash on board. Green and Semin, for example.
That being said, there certainly were more runs taken at Ovi this past year than the previous year. Columbus took him out in Nov. And Downie’s attempted fight with Ovi where Bradley jumped in. (Sometimes it seemed that Ovi was our de facto enforcer.)
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Columbus didn’t really take him out. Remember? It was an accidental bumping between Chimera (then on Col) and Ovi. It wasn’t anywear near a run.
Chimera went after Ovie once, and then there was the accidental bump. The first one was where Ovie got hurt though – his shoulder went into the edge of the glass (don’t know the technical name for it).
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I remember runs at the star players and runs at the goalies all the time when Brash was here.
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One example. Kunitz’ run on Varly in Round 2 in 2009.
Another example. Flyers runs on Huet in Round 1 in 2008
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The Flyers did go after Huet. But the Kunitz one was when Brash was suspended.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
Now that you mention it, Brash was out of the picture due to suspension when Kunitz did his runs at Varly.
Brash had gotten himself suspended in Round 1 for his hit that injured Blair Betts.
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I don’t think King will make anyone do much more than think twice, but that alone is worth it if it helps the young guns make it through the 82 game gauntlet intact.
King isn’t just a guy who fights, he’s a guy that will break your face with his fist or break his fist with your face trying. Based on youtube, he is a true heavyweight – dare I say moreso than Brashear, at least by the time he got to DC.
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First, while I agree that Green loses focus on the ice (and thusly leaves himself open to hits), plays like the Koci hit are what I’m talking about. Green pretty much just got plastered in a defenseless position. Maybe he could have had his head up a little more, but that’s a tough call. Guys like Koci (and Shelley, and Boogard, etc.) are just looking for a fight and they’ll get it any way they can – even if that means running a star player.
Second, given scouts’ opinions of SDR (as derived from his draft position), his somewhat lackluster performances in development camp and his OHL performances before and after his draft year, how can you say with any confidence that his draft year wasn’t an enormous fluke? I know his role changed, but he was also a year older and playing on a stacked offensive team. There are TONS of 20-year old guys in major juniors who rack up points in seasons like that, even if they have marginal skills. Essentially, we’ve got four years of him being offensively limited and one year of him putting up some points. I’m not sold on him as the next Dale Hunter based on one year. As for his WJC performance, I’ll also point out that we’re still waiting on Al Montoya to emerge as the next great American goalie – WJC is a ridiculously small sample and unless a guy really stands out and has some other body of work to corroborate that, I’m just not sold. SDR didn’t clearly stand out and has but one year of solid performance. When called up to Hershey, he couldn’t crack the lineup when Cody Eakin, a kid two years his junior, managed to.
Third, I was talking about two years ago in the USA-Canada round-robin game. The only reason SDR got away with his behavior was because the refs had their heads up their asses.
Fourth, that’s my recollection – at least of the USA-Canada gold medal game. My confidence level on this isn’t 100%, so if someone feels strongly that I’m not correct, I’m open to that opinion. However, that’s my recollection and, given his track record and style of play, I don’t think either of us would have been surprised if they had stapled his ass to the bench late in the game.
Fifth, if that’s the case, then why was Ovie upset when Brash left? Why did Gretzky take McSorley and Semenko with him everywhere he went? We may not like it, and we may not agree with it, but the players like having a good enforcer on their side. Even if, as you argue, the deterrent doesn’t work, the confidence of knowing its there must help to a certain degree.
Moreover, while it’s hard to quantify, I certainly feel that teams took far more liberties with the Caps last year than they had the year prior, and I know we had numerous discussions about it.
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by D'ohboy on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that the Koci hit wasn’t really on Green, but the Pronger hit was and that was by far the worst hit he’s taken (or at least the worst injury). He’s also been caught a little too nonchalant on other occasions but hasn’t been hurt. That’s a much bigger deal, IMO.
I think you underestimate the importance of the role SDR plays. He may not pan out to be great, but his points, and especially the HER situation, were heavily dependent on the role he was asked to play. SDR isn’t going to be the kind of guy that is quantified by numbers so that doesn’t really concern me. I’m much more concerned by J.P.‘s comments that guys that watched him play thought he had topped out. Regardless of what his numbers are, if he doesn’t have any more upside that’s a problem. I never thought he’d be the next Dale Hunter, but I did think he could be the next Steve Ott or Dan Carcillo. As much as I hate those guys, it would be nice for the Caps to have a guy that is legitimately a fucking pain to face every night. Goalies are different, so I’m not buying the Al Montoya comparison, though the point stands to a degree (I’ll also point out that the comment you made regarding Montoya is basically the same thing the scouts that passed Parise said after that same WJC tournament).
He was psychotic two years ago. I thought it was a good sign that he calmed down this year and played hockey.
AO may have liked Brash, but I’m not buying AO as a great talent evaluator or that he needed Brash in any way. Gretzky played in a completely different era, and you know it. I can’t even believe you tried to raise that argument.
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SDR isn’t going to be the kind of guy that is quantified by numbers so that doesn’t really concern me.
While I agree with this in theory, in practice, the thing that separates guys like Ott, Carcillo, Downie, and Avery from guys like Louis Robitaille is their ability to score.
If you don’t agree with the Gretzky argument, then what about the Sakic/Forsberg : Chris Simon/Scott Parker/Warren Rychel/Peter Worrell argument? Why have the Wings used Brad May the last few years? Why do the Pens use Eric Godard?
For me, it all comes back to the security dilemma. We may not want to carry an enforcer on the roster, but if other teams do it, we’re left with no choice. The notion that you’ll somehow “retaliate on the power play” is all well and good as long as you’re not lying in a bloody heap while Matt Bradley is doing his best to join you in the bloody heap.
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Do the Pens use Eric Godard? I fundamentally disagree with applying pre-lockout enforcer roles to the current ones. The game has clearly changed and the league is much more vigilant about removing fights from the game and applying the instigator.
Your security dilemma point is well taken, but it’s just giving in to peer pressure. You can succeed without an enforcer on your roster. We had the best PP in the league, scored the most goals by a mile, and had the most points in the league. We didn’t have major running incidents aside from the Koci one, and not having an enforcer played literally zero role in our playoff collapse.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 29, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Green was targeted a few times, and Ovie was targeted by both Downie and Chimera. King might have been able to stop some of those. In the playoffs, I don’t see him as much help, but the possibility of keeping our guys healthy until then makes him worth the small price.
Never underrate the power of the hissy-cow.
I agree. There were definitely some instances last season when I felt the Caps were getting pushed around and no one did anything about it. Players were taking runs at Green, Semin, and even Flash (I remember one game against Ottawa when Neil kept taking runs at him) too frequently for my liking. I also remember the hit from Colby Armstrong on MP. No one did anything afterwards. SMo looked like he wanted to and then quickly changed his mind. Ovi said last summer when Brashear was traded that Brashear was everyone’s bodyguard and that the Caps needed "someone like him." I’m not a big fan of these enforcers but if it makes players feel more comfortable out there and prevents guys like Poti, Steckel and even Brads or Chimera from having to fight then I’m Ok with it I guess. Let’s not forget that we have two young goalies and two rookie defensemen on the lineup next season and possibly one rookie center as well. If having an enforcer deters others, even a little bit, from taking runs and injuring some of these guys then it may be worth it. I know that Ovi doesn’t need a bodyguard but he is not the only skilled player on the Caps. DJ may never be on the ice with Ovi or any of the skilled forwards but what about one of the young defensemen? I know that Erskine was on the ice when Koci took a run at Green but Erskine is not an enforcer or on Koci’s weight class and on top of that he is a defenseman so if he fights and gets injured then that puts the team at a disadvantage. These guys are still around for a reason. If teams didn’t think they were needed, then they wouldn’t have jobs. Besides I have a feeling that DJ is going to play more than 3 minutes a night as long as BB is the coach.
And apparently even Ken Holland wants one.
“Ideally, yeah, we’d love to go out and get an enforcer,” general manager Ken Holland said Monday. “But I can’t make one up. We don’t have one in our organization right now, so I have one of two choices. Either I trade for one or I get one through free agency.”
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by CapsFan2020 on Jul 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm interested to see how this plays out...
I see a LOT of folks here bashing this move but let’s face it, how many times last season did the question of “toughness” come up? How many times did we have to ask ourselves, “does this team need a legitimate enforcer?” last season? Well, this may give us a definitive answer to those questions.
It doesn’t even matter if you’re against the fighting element of today’s NHL game — it’s there. I’d rather see Matt Bradley scoring short-handed goals than getting his ass kicked for Ovie (much respect though). With the talent the Caps have, there needs to be a guy out there that will make opposing teams’ players think twice about trying to engage them, and then take care of business when the shit goes down…not just guys willing to take a punch every now and then to protect our stars.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Jul 28, 2010 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
How many games did we lose because we didn’t have an enforcer? More specifically, which game against MON did we lose because we didn’t have an enforcer?
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I think this is more about getting the young guns to the playoffs in one piece than King helping in the playoffs. I’m not certain fighting adds a deterrent to that sort of thing, but King knows his role. Check out the Boogaard fight – King goes in for Boogaard directly after one of his teammates gets run. King can help out this year.
The Caps are big losers if SDR turns into a NHLer. He seemed to have promise but I’m giving GMGM the benefit of the doubt – he rarely lets good ones go.
Would Green and Semin have been as ineffective in the playoffs if they had taken less abuse during the regular season?
Could a guy like King have deterred even a few hits that they absorbed?
And for crying out loud, why are you sober enough to be posting on a hockey message board after the kind of day you just had?
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 29, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I was hammered. I think I was on autopilot last night.
I can’t answer whether AO or Semin were less effective in the playoffs because they took a few too many hits. AO looked like himself to me, and Semin is notoriously inconsistent so who knows. I do know two things: first, AO gave out far more runs than he took. Second, if we are concerned about how healthy AO and the other stars are going into the playoffs maybe you don’t play them 20+ minutes a night down the stretch when you have the Presidents’ Trophy locked up. I’d bet some of that rest would have gone a lot further to keeping our skilled guys fresh in the playoffs than having an enforcer would.
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I chose Green and Semin consciously — Alex Ovechkin don’t need no goon. Goons are the ones who should try to find some protection from Alex Ovechkin.
And the 20+ minutes point gets a loud “amen brother” from me.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 29, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, at least BB isn’t Tortorella circa 2004-2007 – Green, Ovie and Backstrom would all be playing 30+ mins/night.
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Might happen with King in the lineup
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 30, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
"amen brother"
Indeed. Doing the fantasy write-ups gave me a chance to really analyze ATOI over the course of the week and there were weeks AO was averaging over 25:00 a night. One game? Okay, whatever, we had a lot of PP time. A week? Something is badly wrong.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 30, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of TOI breakdowns, It’s not just the PP that needs to get back on track now, the poor 4 v 4 performance needs to improve if we’re expecting to fight fire with fire.
But the 4 v 4 has been underperforming for so long, gotta think that’s going to kick in with a little systems adjustment work, right Bruce?
True, and Green and Semin are the two young guns in meed of most protection. It’s just hard to know how much a goon would have changed their health. Green’s wrist was hurting from a slash late in the season (Also CBJ!!!!) and I’m not sure that’s the kind of thing a goon prevents.
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Whenever the idea of toughness came up, it had nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with team mentality. There aren’t enough players on the Caps that make the corners and the front of the net the hard places to go to. They’ll go there, but they don’t make it tough on the other team. People have the tools (here’s looking at you Steckel, Laich, Fehr etc). That’s the kind of toughness that can help win games, and that the Caps lack.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 28, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think a lot of people are rationalizing this trade. Remember when people were trumpeting quotes from Avalanche’ writers following the David Koci incident about how worthless he is? About how he just takes away ice time from other skaters who might be able to contribute more than 5 minutes a night? That’s what you get with your standard enforcer.
SDR is young and while I’m no GM, it seems premature to have given up on him altogether. We essentially gave him away for an asset that’s very unlikely to contribute towards our winning playoff games.
Poor Nate missed some of the Nats game because Delly must not have had his cell phone.
So I missed first pitch at Nats Park b/c a 20-year-old didn’t have his cell phone on him. Sigh.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poor Nate. On a Viva La Livo night, no less!
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Does anyone know how much King contributes in other areas of the game? How’s his skating? Can he win puck possession? I’m not expecting a goal scorer or anything, but is there any indication that this guy will contribute more than Brash did? Because he’s going to have to replace one of our forwards when he plays, and it ain’t gonna be Flash.
I can buy the argument that Delly’s potential was limited, but I dunno, weren’t most people in Caps Nation convinced that enforcers were a waste of space by the end of last season? I was.
I did too—think that enforcers were of limited value. Still do actually. But we do have a group of youngsters coming in as well as many Hershey understudies ready for their auditions. Whereas other teams in this conference have gotten meaner.
And perhaps Ovi will now be under orders to stop self-enforcing. IMO it’s a bit of a sidewise move, but we brought in some experience with the “nasty” with DJ, and we really lost only a Hershey prospect.
I wish SDR the best. He had spirit. We fans grow very fond of our prospects at all levels. We hate to see them go.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
King has decent skills for what he is. I’d say he could potentially offer as much as Brashear did for us, but will be playing in far less games most likely.
by Charlie Foxtrot on Jul 29, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I think this is a decent trade. We got a 4th liner/enforcer/scratch for a (at most) AHLer. If it gets just a couple guys to not make runs at our skill players, or saves some of the better 4th liners (especially Brads) from getting pummeled, it’s worth it. At $637.5K, it’s not going to hurt. That’s barely more than we paid Laing, who mainly just sat in the press box.
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agreed. i always like players named “king”
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by what Juneau about that? on Jul 28, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Would have rather just signed Evgeny Artyukhin and let SDR bake a season in the AHL. Would have been more expensive (and i admittedly don’t know what Arty is asking for), and maybe SDR doesn’t even fetch an fridge NHL’er next year , but that seems like a move that would have fit the BB mold more. Arty can skate and could itch in some O as well.
Better to save a few hundred grand on a bottom line forward so I could put it into a more skilled position of need, no?
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 29, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, hockey fights seems to love this move. If you’ve gotta grab a thug, grab one who’s a good fighter and not a total asshat.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 29, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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