Caps Sign Tomas Fleischmann
by Becca H on Jul 27, 2010 9:08 PM EDT
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Per the team:
The Washington Capitals have signed forward Tomas Fleischmann to a one-year contract, vice president and general manager George McPhee announced today. In keeping with club policy, financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.
Tarik is reporting that the deal is worth $2.6 million.
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Awesome! Tomas
NOW SCORE SOME BIGTIME GOALS ! this Season
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by Mikko Leinonen's opposite on Jul 27, 2010 9:10 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yay!
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by Jake Shapiro on Jul 27, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
A bit more than I would have done
…but mostly tolerable.
Alright Flash,
Time to put up or shut up (and be traded).
Choking since 1985.
Do you know if they went through arbitration as scheduled or was this deal done beforehand?
by Mario's Mullet on Jul 27, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah….part of me was morbidly curious to see what happened at arb, but I’m thrilled it’s over and done. And now we wait and see.
by funkyceili79 on Jul 28, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
best case scenario, he explodes out of the gate and we can get a good return trading him
#NeedsMoreBradley
He’s playing for his long-term viability, so he either does well and plays defense, or doesn’t. It’s like Semin, but with a lower talent ceiling. No big deal.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 27, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I think AH is right, though – he’s still very tradeable at $2.6m. Certainly moreso than he would’ve been at $3.2m.
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Well yeah that too.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 27, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Finding a team in contention who needs scoring, but not defense, with assets we want that they’re willing to give up in the midseason is going to be a tough trick. I’ll be amazed if a trade goes down before the deadline and more than a little surprised if it happens then.
I hope, for the sake of the team and all of our antacid consumption, that he lives up to this contract. I’m not optimistic about his chances, but there’s a chance he comes to Jesus. That may require a different coach, though.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 27, 2010 9:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure it has to be a team in contention. Could be a team that needs a still-young, not overly-expensive forward with offensive upside and orange hair.
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If he explodes out of the gate we won’t move him. So him doing well merely guarantees a higher contract next year and his continued existence with the Caps. I’d prefer a literal explosion to a figurative one.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 10:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you think we’ll really fall for that one again? One of JP’s best arguments in the mock arbitration is the fact that his endurance is proven to be a problem and he not only tapers off but disappears by mid winter/early spring.
Literal would be entertaining to look at, assuming it happens at Verizon.
"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak
If he was really signed for $2.6M, and Tarik does tend to get the numbers right, I am satisfied. Flash can be used as trade bait, or to fill in on the top 2 lines on any position. If he does what he has in the past and improves on his numbers from last season, he will be worth it.
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Not as bad as I was expecting, and not as bad as it probably would have been in arbitration.
And as F&B has put this – it shouldn’t bother me. But it does.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 27, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah. More than I wanted, less than I had prepared myself for.
Eat, drink, and be merry! And then drink some more.
Flash on the team is more than I wanted.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 27, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I am pleased. Less than the 2.9 that JP predicted, one year so Flash will have to work at it, nearly 6 million left in the cap kitty to bring up some hershey kids and mebbe sign another D.
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$5.9 left over per CapGeek.
And a heck of a lot of UFAs next July.
Please to be winning Stanley Cup this year, Caps. I wuvs all of you right now.
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CapGeek has 11 forwards above the line right now. Figure on $4M and change in cap space after Mackan, A. Gordon, Perreault, etc. get their shot at those 12 and 13 spots.
And of course, take of 500k for Quintin Laing…
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
So now that the Caps have their second-line center back in the fold…
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You can go about finding that defenseman to play behind the 6D Tyler Sloan!
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by Chris Burton on Jul 27, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Plenty of cap space left for Willie Mitchell…
Release the Mackan!
by Killer_Carlson on Jul 27, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
so
Looking at the Moulson, Raymond, Frolov, and Ponikarovsky deals, this is just about fair. Not great, not terrible. Were I a Caps fan, I think that its very live-with-able.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 27, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Right on the money
Yeah, once Moulson signed his $2.45 million arbitration deal, you knew Flash wasn’t going to get much more than that. $2.6 is exactly what I was originally hoping before swayed by some of DMG’s fanciful words. I’m happy with it… mostly because I know he won’t be here past 3/3/2011. Hopefully we can unload him just before he tanks again this season.
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Nice. Made less than I expected.
Seeing as Flash’s agent was comparing a potential deal with Tomas Plekanec, and Plekanec made $2.75 mil last season, I’m satisfied.
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I love the bizarre NHL that Plekanec’s value is a scant $150k more
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Couldn't put Humpty together again
by sydtron on Jul 27, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely in-[expletive]ing-sane. Plekanec was getting paid $39,285.71/point last year. Next year, assuming Flash can at least reproduce his career-high goals and points totals, he will be making nearly $50,980.39/point.
I’m in the wrong ham profession. Apparently I could play in the NHL as a 2nd/3rd line Wing/Center/playoff scratch, score two points and then go on vacation until next year. Why the crap did I waste my life with that Engineering degree?
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At Least 500K More Than He Is...
worth to the Capitals …. but as pointed out the number is tradable – now that he’s signed hop[efully he can be used as part of the needed deal to pick up a bonafide second line Center….
Don’t go away mad “Flash” – just go away to a team that needs a guy like you more than the Capitals do and help us get one of the things we need to be a better team next season than we were last season…..
by markbona-capsfan99 on Jul 27, 2010 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
So with Flash signed, what is the likely lineup? Are there any holes left? I think 3C, but I’m not sure if I’m missing something.
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The holes left are the same holes that existed before Flash signed.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 10:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Just trying to figure out the lineup. Potentially:
Ovie-Backs-Knuble
Semin-Flash-Laich
Chimera-MJ/MP-Fehr
Bradley-Steckel-Gordon
Scratch: ?
Green-Schultz
Poti-Alzner
Carlson-Erskine
Scratch: Sloan
Wouldn’t mind seeing a better 2C, but it’s a workable lineup, I think.
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It can win games but it’s still embarrassing at 2C. Not as bad as Clark getting handed the Cup before Ovechkin, but pretty close.
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by sydtron on Jul 27, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
2C definitely has the most need for improvement. Or 3C, if Mackan is put at 2C and Flash moves down a line.
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Nope – even then. Mackan hasn’t proven shit yet.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 27, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Dont worry the regular season doesn’t mean [Fleischmann], apparently. We pick up Brad Richards at the trade deadline, our formerly embarrassing hole at 2C now becomes a shining strength of our team
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I honestly don’t see why we couldn’t dabble with MP or Makkan at 2C. What’s the worst that could happen, we lose some regular season games?
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The worst that could happen is that a talented and promising prospect is given too much responsibility too fast and fails to fully develop because his team fails to manage its personnel properly and ignores the needs of a normal development arc.
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by EmilyB on Jul 27, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One other question related to this…. if neither Mackan nor MP works out for this season, what options do the Caps have at 2/3C? That’s my main concern. Only thing I can see is moving Steckel to 3C, which is not the best option.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
And this lineup still has the same holes that it had yesterday. We still have no 2C and are relying on a rookie to play 3C.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
We do have a 2C – Flash. Not optimum, but he can play the position.
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but not well enough to win in the playoffs, but yes the reg season…he will get you to the playoffs
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It’s still a hole. If your boat has a hole in the bottom, and you cover it with a colander, have you fixed the hole?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
More like plywood. It will fill the hole fine, but might not hold.
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More like a plywood colander. It won’t fill the hole and it’ll just give you splinters in your balls when the boat rocks.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Flash did fine as a center in a number of the games last season. Just not consistently. Which is what I’m worried about.
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I was thinking our new lines would be:
Ovie-Backs-Knubes
Semin-Laich-Fehr
Flash-MP-Bradley
Chimera-Steckel-Gordon (Andrew/Boyd)
Scratch: Mackan
Green-Schultz
Carlson-Alzner
Poti-Erskine
Scratch: McNiel/Finley
Keep in mind Laich played Center for several years before he switched to winger last year. Told me that he spent his entire off-season in Saskatchewan working on his speed and such. Maybe now he could bring that speed to 2C?
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Unless Mackan fails completely at rookie and training camp, I expect to see him in one of the two center spots. It’s pointless to get him to the NHL and not get him any ice time.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know about that
Most of the analysis, including from Mackan himself, thinks it’s a stretch for him to be a regular NHL’er at this point.
I think there’s a lot of wisdom in that from a “not rushing his development” standpoint. Just because we’re desperate doesn’t mean he’s ready. Not to be critical, but in watching him during Development Camp and the scrimmages, I wasn’t impressed nor did I get the impression he stood out too much. [Disclaimer: I wasn’t present for most skills-based drills.]
Another year in Färjestad will do him well, and judging by his various interviews, the European opt-out clause in his contract is one of the things that excites him most. Just saying – may not want to put all our eggs in one basket.
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If he’s not going to be an NHL regular, then he needs to be eating all of the chocolate he can a Bear.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 28, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s going back. From what i’ve read Farjestad is filling their roster and do not anticipate Mackan returning.
Now I’m not suggesting he will be a regular, but I’m sure he will see NHL ice time. I also wouldn’t be the least surprised if he sees Hershey ice too if that’s good for his development. But being scratched makes no sense to me if the goal is to develop Mackan.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would you assume he’d be scratched every game? If you want to develop a player of his age/experience/skill level, you’d probably play him 20-30 games. Or put him lower down the line like on 3/4C with lower minutes. The only thing the scratch indicates is that he’s a player in development and not a bona fide NHL’er yet (see Alzner & Carlson last year). Once they’ve “developed,” then they can be taken out of the scratch/Bears rotation.
All I’m saying is that MP has a far greater chance of success next year while Mackan learns our system and the NA style of hockey.
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by Scoops on Jul 28, 2010 7:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That’s how I interpreted your lineup. Sorry if I misunderstood. I was only trying to say I expect him to see ice—somewhere.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. And hopefully it’s here and not in Europe.
"Baseball was my first love... hockey is a sultry temptress and stole my heart." - Corey Masisak
The Caps site has Mackan miked up. It’s pretty illuminating especially as to his positioning on the ice. He’s so serious.
I have hopes too of Matty of making the team. He’s so much fun to watch
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 29, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
No to Chimera on the 4th line based on speed alone.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with putting him up and shifting Brads down, assuming that Flash or Chimer can play RW. Just want to give Brads his due because of the years of hard work he’s put in. 10 goals with his incredibly limited ice time is a huge accomplishment.
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Considering who else is on that 4th line, if goals were going to get scored they might as well have been from them. Not too much left in Brads’ growth of skillset.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No to Chimera on any line higher than the 4th on the Caps based on his hands alone.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d take that if it meant Bradley was playing on the other wing.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
with the caveat that Boudreau’s 4th line routinely plays more TOI than his 3rd line, so this would actually give Chimera more minutes. But if the question is “who do you bracket a rookie center with,” I’d much rather see Flash-MP/Mackan-A. Gordon for 10 minutes a night than see either Chimera or Bradley on that line.
Let Chimera, Bradley, Stex and B. Gordon battle it out for the three grinder positions. You’ll need 4 or more of those guys to get you through the season anyway. If Laich is the 2C (and I think that’s the least bad option), then I’d like to see MP or Mackan on a line that gets 10-12 minutes per night of high energy offense
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Rec’d. Which is unfortunately why he was demoted to 4th line.
I think there’s still more points for Brads to put up with more ice time. He’s got good per 60 numbers, especially with what he has to work with. Plus his work ethic is unreal. Just saying, a potential 15-18 goals on the 3rd line for a measly $1.0 mill might be a good thing.
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"least bad option"
Exactly my point. I agree – giving MP or Mackan 10-12 minutes a night isn’t going to do enough damage us beyond repair, should neither take for a sizable period of time. Second line, I feel, is still quite presumptuous.
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Sounds like the exact same argument I made for Steckel last year, and we know how that ended.
Bradley on any line other than the 4th takes their overall agility down, and if Chimera’s on the 3rd, at least his speed will create room for his linemates to work.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
*and size, since I forget words and stuff.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 28, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
By ES ice time, here are my proposed lines:
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
Semin-Laich-Fehr
Chimera-Stex/B. Gordon-Bradley
Flash-MP/Mackan-A. Gordon
This gives MP/Mackan and A. Gordon the proper on-the-job training for what we’d like them to become — scoring line forwards. It takes all the pressure off of them. And it keeps Flash out of trouble.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting. I always enjoy your lines.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 28, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
And I change them as often as Boudreau!
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I love it
Of course I’m biased since they’re almost identical to mine except the 3/4 RW’s are switched (and what you trulu consider our 4th line).
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by Scoops on Jul 28, 2010 7:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think this is what GMGM was waiting for to make any other moves. I know he can keep a secret better than anyone in the NHL. Ted said we weren’t through, and he’s not as good at keeping secrets. This signing just told GMGM how much he can spend…and Mitchell’s price should be coming down now. (Although Salo’s injury makes me wonder if he has more value to VAN now). I think we have enough to sign Mitchell and Belanger now…any thoughts?
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I wonder if his price comes down, would the caps consider resigning Shaone Morrissonn to a 1 year deal.
That would be awesome…. ShaMo stepped up last year a lot.
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really, thought he was better 2 yrs ago and last yr was a step doen for him
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If by "stepped up" you mean hit a lot more
then I agree. If you mean added significant value to our defensive corp, then I disagree completely.
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Erskine has a clearly defined role in the NHL…
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Thoughts:
Pass on Belanger. Rather play what we got at 2/3C and figure it out as we go.
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Reports from the French media say that Belanger’s been trying hard to get signed by the Habs. But they’re capped out. He also seems to be adjusting his demand for a 3 or 4 year deal, and seems to be indicating he’d take a 1 year deal. The reports don’t say how much interest there is between him and the Caps though.
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Emily…where did you hear that…haven’t heard a peep about Belanger
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Belanger’s agent likes to negotiate through the French press. None of this ever shows up in the English press.
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Love google translate
the player’s agent of 29 years
So, he’s had an agent since he was three?
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There’s a reason that foreign language students can not rely on Google translate to do all their work in their writing assignments.
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Actually, I just looked at the French, and it looks like it’s a typo of some sort, not a translation error.
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Joseph Tacopina, l’agent du joueur de 29 ans, a confirmé au journal La Presse avoir discuté de Bélanger avec le directeur général du Canadien, Pierre Gauthier.
I read that as the agent of the 29 y/o player, (and a Google mistranslation)
Il hésiterait entre deux équipes qui lui permettraient de mieux s’exprimer en attaque, contrairement au rôle défensif que lui a attribué le Wild du Minnesota depuis trois ans. Il serait à la recherche d’un contrat à court terme dans l’espoir d’améliorer sa cause ultérieurement.
I think(from my reading of the French) he’s considering a choice between two teams that would let him better demonstrate his attack, unlike the defensive role he had with the Wild for three year. He would look for a short term contract in the hope of improving his case in the long term. (He’s looking at the Habs, but the other team isn’t named in this article).
Well, Vancouver’s got serious cap issues and 9 defensemen under contract – 8 of which are NHL-caliber, 7 with Salo out. My guess is they’d sooner hang on to Bieksa than try to re-sign Mitchell.
And Mitchell’s price probably hasn’t been set yet, to be honest, so having it come down isn’t official. He hasn’t taken a physical yet – I doubt teams are bidding for him right now, they’re probably just waiting to see how healthy he is. Hopefully teams with serious needs get tired of waiting and go for other guys, that’d help. I’d love to have him here.
Becca, I’ve said it before…I’d love for him to mentor our youngins. I don’t care if he played many games at all until the playoffs to let his noggin get better
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I think he’d be great at that – and agreed, I wouldn’t be too upset if he didn’t play until halfway through the year, but I doubt the team signs him without making sure he’s at or near 100%.
I saw Mike Russo report that the Wild might be interested in Mitchell, but Willie still doesn’t want to take a physical. That to me is a huge red flag.
Yeah. No physical, no contract. No exceptions.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
agree. but we already have 7 dmen signed (not including ShaMo), Mitchell creates a logjam for us.
#NeedsMoreBradley
Same thought…different person…flip a coin as far as i’m concerned
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I’d keep Erskine, he’s better than Sloan. Although neither is ideal.
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I’m probably the only one who’s looking forward to seeing Erskine get more games next year.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 27, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to channel JP from yesterday and reitrerate that Belanger doesn’t fill any real needs. He’s not a legit 2C and we currently have 3 or more guys who can play 3C.
by mechanicsville on Jul 27, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on what the 3rd line is. If it’s a defensive line to match up against top lines, then Belanger is much better than anyone we have. If a scoring line, then we have better.
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yes, and wasn’t the PK our biggest problem last year…I’d like to give Belanger a full year on that and see if the numbers don’t improve…and he has a lot of offensive upside…he’s just been wasting away in the defensive mindset of the wild the last few years
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In Short
Prove us wrong, Flash.
Prove us wrong.
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by SmallZ827 on Jul 27, 2010 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Does the Flash trade happen before or during the season?
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During. Most of the offseason changes have been made and a guy like Fleischmann’s going to move once the season gets underway and a team realizes they have a hole they didn’t know about.
by David M. Getz on Jul 27, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
OK…but if the sides were FAR apart, and he signed for 2.6, that’s interesting to me! What the F…was GMGM offering, and if Flash was asking for much more…what made him sign?
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Definitely the latter. When have you known Flash to not back down from confrontation?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 27, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Ill-will as in arguments that will cause future friction. No player, especially if they will be up for free agency, wants to rock the boat too much.
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just saying…seems like something is in the works…or someone just crumbled in the negotiation…which is weird with arb tomorrow
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Or neither side really particularly wanted to go through with arbitration so “let’s settle beforehand”.
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Caps must be happy that all their players signed before arbitration. Definitely a plus.
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Possibility…. Mason Raymond did just sign for $2.4M. Definitely a comparable for Flash. Maybe Flash’s agent saw that arbitration might not get the results he wanted.
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And the ‘Nucks in turn used Fehr’s contract as a comparable.
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The Caps can now be considered the model for coming up with the appropriate figures for paying players.
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So Fehr “loses” by being the first to sign?
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No, he “loses” by getting stuck behind Flash on the depth chart.
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by EmilyB on Jul 27, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
And 2 shoulder surgeries that kept him at 11-12 min TOI
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He’s gonna be a BEAST in camp. And reading from the Book of Knuble.
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Straight up Old Testament.
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Totally agree. In fact, I’d like to see him get a shot on the 2nd line in front of Laich.
by mechanicsville on Jul 27, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
That, too, therefore the quotation marks.
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So Fehr loses because:
1) Signed his contract before Flash
2) Is behind Flash on the depth chart
3) Is behind Semin on the depth chart.
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Fehr wins He got two years on his contract.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 27, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Fehr is worth 400k less because he doesn’t bring that hefty 43% FO stat to the table…
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And because he doesn’t have red hair.
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by Steck It Out on Jul 27, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
So that means great things for the future of Cody Eaki and Dimitri Kugryshev.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
With Flash signed, here’s one possible scenario for how the Caps break camp. The #3C and top six defenseman still are glaring holes, but with $4 million in cap space they could fill one if not both of those spots.
WASHINGTON CAPITALS
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR
FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m)
Alexander Semin ($6.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m) / Brooks Laich ($2.067m)
Eric Fehr ($2.200m) / Mathieu Perreault ($0.717m) / Tomas Fleischmann ($2.600m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Jason Chimera ($1.875m)
Boyd Gordon ($0.800m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Jeff Schultz ($2.750m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / Karl Alzner ($1.675m)
John Erskine ($1.250m) / John Carlson ($0.846m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($0.822m) / Semyon Varlamov ($0.822m)
I like that lineup. I don’t know if I would say 3C is a glaring hole. What are your expectations?
By Top 6 defensemen I assume you are referring to the Sloskine situation, and rightly so…but do-able for the majority of the regular season.
Trades are in play with our cap room if we need an improvement at 2C or another D – and not necessarily at the deadline.
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I just don’t think you can go into a season with the kind of expectations that Caps have with rookie centers on the second and third lines. If they’re going with Mackan then I’d still like to see someone like Belanger signed for the #3C spot. There’s just too much youth in the center spot for my liking.
I agree, and the same could be said (and more) about the D and the goalies. The Caps are on shakier ground going into this season than they were last, IMO. We’re relying on a lot of young, unproven guys to produce and hold up like veterans at the moment. The top-end talent should be as good as or better than ever, but there’s some glue missing. A stabilizing force like Mitchell on D (assuming he can still play) would be a huge addition, and I’d like another experienced C at some point to boot.
Good news is that the team has the roster and cap flexibility to address these issues, I just hope the front office hasn’t gotten a little overconfident.
by grapejoos on Jul 27, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do agree but I don’t share your urgency. Give the team 40-50 games to really assess what you have and make trades. If there was a better answer I think it would have materialized by now.
But I’m also of the opinion that between Laich, Flash, MP, Makkan and this list of guys, we’ll have it figured out by the 50 game mark.
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Stupid 7.8M. Brad Richards would be so gosu at 2C.
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From Wikipedia:
Gosu (고수) is a computer gaming term usually used to refer a person highly skilled in multiplayer games like StarCraft, Warcraft III (RTS), Diablo II (RPG), Counter-Strike (FPS) and others. It has a Korean origin and the term was widely adopted by gaming communities in many countries including USA, Germany, France and Russia because of a large South Korean presence in online gaming communities.
Gosu has cognates in Chinese and Japanese. In Chinese, 1993 gao shou (hangul: 고수, hanja: 高手, literally “high hand”) is used for a person with skill, usually in martial arts or in baduk (the game of Go). In the dialect of the Gyeongnam province, gosu also has the meaning of “leader”. The word is derived from the Chinese term 高手 gāoshǒu, and is similar to the Japanese word 上手 jōzu (literally “upper hand”).
There are several English backronyms of the Korean word, mostly originating in the StarCraft community, including “Graduate of StarCraft University”, “God Of StarCraft Universe” or “Guardian of StarCraft Universe”.
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But depending on derivation or inflection, it can also mean shit. I guess that’s more of a gose, but yeah. I always laugh at people calling themselves shit.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 28, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m thrilled! Good price, good duration. Lets him prove himself in the regular season, affords the opportunity to move him as an advertised scorer as part of a deadline deal, or if he makes defensive slash FO strides this year and is better kept than moved, even better.
Also, very cool that it didn’t go to Puck Daddy comments arbitration talks. Those things sound so brutal.
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