Thursday Caps Clips
by J.P. on Jul 22, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Is Alex Ovechkin "just like" LeBron James? No? No. [CSN Washington]
- AO on signing a lifetime deal: "To go on the ice till the end of my life deprived of drinking wine and smoking cigarettes? No, it's not for me." Great interview. [Alex Ovetjkin, with a second interview here]
- Back to the future: Ovi skating for Dynamo. [SB Nation DC]
- Less than half of (a very small sample of) Cheeseheads know who Alex Ovechkin is. [State of Hockey]
- Braden Holtby mic'd up. [Caps365 (video)]
- The Boss pens a mini-manifesto (minifesto?). Better iPhone connectivity at the Verizon Center? Oh, hell yeah. [Ted's Take]
- Speaking of AmEx's newest board member/VC's newest janitor, the man has handed out three of the nine biggest contracts in NHL history. If he ends up batting .667 on 'em, we'll be pretty happy. [THN]
- Three pressing personnel issues facing the Caps. [FCNP]
- Vogs continues his look at 2004's Development Camp. [Dump 'n Chase]
- What the Caps/Wiz joint ticket operations means to you. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Hopefully this is the last you see of Michal Neuvirth in a Bears uniform. [Hockey or Die]
- A look at how the current Caps were built. [Musings of a Caps Fan]
- Guess we missed this one initially, but ABC7 did a piece on Development Camp invitee Chris Bond last week. [ABC7]
- Q&A with Bears/Stingrays goalies Jared DiMichiel. [Stack the Pads]
- Sergei Fedorov won't be going to court after all. [Forbes]
- Check out the Caps items up for auction - and, more importantly, the reason for the auction. [FanPost (charity)]
- Self-promotion alert: someone cheated and voting was reset over at WTOP, so take a moment to go pull the lever for us, won't you? (And tell all your friends to do the same.) [WTOP]
- Business is booming for our corporate overlords. [TechCrunch]
- Finally, happy 42nd birthday to Brad Schlegel. I'm sorry, Calder Candidate Brad Schlegel.
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FFX Underground appears to have been DQ’d.
by DrinkingPartner on Jul 22, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions
They went to Dairy Queen?
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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Starvin’ for a Blizzard….hey Earl, we got any Blizzard’s back there?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions
There goes our main competitor.
Japers 2010: More ice time for everyone!
Joe Finley to the Russians: "Como estas?"
by Steck It Out on Jul 22, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the Finley method.
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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Potential post-disqualification brawls not included.
Joe Finley to the Russians: "Como estas?"
by Steck It Out on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
btw, if you live in ffx county, the underground is a great place to find out about any “incidents” your friends and neighbors may have had. not that i’ve snooped or anything, but i do know the people who owned my house previously definitely didnt like each other….and i know which kid in the neighborhood is probably headed for military school.
still, the rink pwn’s it and i’m glad the NHL cracked down on their attempts to circumvent the otherwise totally legit and statistically significant poll.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 22, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
(minifesto?)
I approve.
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by turnituptoeleven on Jul 22, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions
Puns on a Thursday morning. Life is good.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 22, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Btw, we’re heavy into recycling here at The Rink (Matt Bradley would be proud), as evidenced by our previous use of today’s image here and here. And in case you don’t recall how Schlegel’s “Calder Candidate” season went, as I wrote in that second link (and reworded slightly in the first):
In support of his candidacy, Schlegel registered an assist in seven games for the Caps and was edged out for the 1992-93 Rookie of the Year trophy by Teemu Selanne, who finished a mere 131 points ahead of Schegel in the rookie scoring race.
Good times, good times.
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That was the year he dropped 76 and broke Bossy’s record, right?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
…Selanne?
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by red army line on Jul 22, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s missing out on a fortune by not opening up a “Schlegel’s Bagels”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Played until ’07? I did not know that, wow. Go Bundesliga.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
London Knights alum and “Calder Candidate,” just like RAHJC!
Also, this:
June 26, 1993: Traded to Calgary by Washington for Calgary’s 7th round choice (Andrew Brunette) in 1993 Entry Draft, June 26, 1993.
Nice pick, that – not often do you find 1,000-game guys (Brunette is active with 950) in Round 7.
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I think I posted the other day that Dave Taylor was drafted in the 15th round, 210 overall in 1975. Nuts.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions
For some reason I love seeing guys who were drafted in rounds that don’t even exist any more.
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My favorite non-hockey wacky draft pick was Mike Piazza in the 62nd Round by the Dodgers in 1988, 1,390 overall.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Tommy Lasorda doing a buddy a favor, no?
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Yup.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
It was… worked out for the Dodgers, I think…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 22, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Greatest hitting catcher ever…i’d say so.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Greatest hitting catcher ever…
… who was not excluded from the league due to the color of his skin. Give me Josh Gibson over Piazza.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yogi Berra and Johnny Bench were better hittiers, and you could make a case for Carlton Fisk. But yeah, Piazza could swing the bat…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 22, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
162 game average:
(HR, OPS, OPS+ OBP)
Berra 27, .830, 125, .348 (19 seasons)
Bench 29, .817, 126, .342 (17 seasons)
Piazza 36, .922, 142, .377 (16 seasons)
He may have been absolute shit defensively, but i’m taking Piazza over the other two any day.
(sorry for the OT)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Piazza actively hurt teams with his defense
the only guy who can come close to Bench is Pudge
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Berra’s underrated for all the runs he prevented by calling a magnificent game.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn you for taking me away from work.
Looks like the ’84 draft on the surface seems to have the most late-round gems. From the 6th round onward:
Brett Hull (6th, 1269 games)
Cliff Ronning (7th, 1137)
Don Sweeney (8th, 1115)
Luc Robitaille (9th, 1431)
Gary Suter (9th, 1145)
Caps cup of coffee-er Kevin Miller was a 10th round pick of the Rangers.
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
And you mean “Caps trade return for Dino Ciccarelli Kevin Miller.”
Bastards.
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83 Draft looks pretty good
Joe Reekie (7th, 124, 902), Christian Ruutuu (7th, 134, 621), Slava Fetisov (8th, 145, 546), Tommy Albelin (8th, 152, 952), Brian Noonan, (9th, 179, 629), Stu Grimson, (10, 186, 729), Dominik Hasek (10, 199, 735), Uwe Krupp (11, 214, 729)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Without looking, Albelin stayed with NJ for most of him run, Grimson played there for a bit and Fetisov was a “fuck it, see if he comes over” type of pick, no?
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think most of the Eastern European guys (like Hasek and Krupp) were like that back in the day. Makarov went in that draft too. From what I remember Fetisov didn’t join the Devs till 89-90 with Kasatonov, where we proceeded to beat the hell out of both of them in the playoffs that year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, 2 of the five from ’89 (with Krutov, Mylnikov and Priakin).
“Home Game” recounts some of the treatment that the KLM guys got from Tikhonov in the months leading up to leaving, definitely worth a read.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
And I completely forgot Makarov.
/switched to decaf
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember reading something years ago about what really led Fetisov to leave was Tikhonov punching Alexander Mogilny, who was like 17 at the time.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Wouldn’t surprise me. Combine that with the increasing calls to come over to North America (combined with what was going on there at the time and Tikhonov repeatedly putting him in the Black Aces and ripping him without justification in the press), at least we got to see him for a chunk of time.
Related to Mogilny; him on a line with Fedorov and Bure, on the European rinks? Must have been the closest thing to a human Autobahn out there.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I so wish we had video of that somewhere.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Sadly, the closest thing I have is a DVD of the WJC game at Piestany.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
And now more than 20 years later Tikhonov’s kid is in the NHL. Man I feel old.
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Is he actually in the NHL? I don’t like that pick for PHX.
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Tikhonov started the 2009–10 season in the AHL with the Rampage and played in 18 games before opting to take up a loan to regain form with the Severstal Cherepovets of the KHL for the remainder of the season on November 27, 2009.3 After scoring 14 goals in 25 games, tied for second among Severstal, Tikhonov was recalled by the Coyotes on March 13, 2010. He rejoined the Coyotes as apart of the practice squad as they reached the first round of the playoffs.4
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I remember PHX picking him because he was older and they wanted the most NHL-ready guys they could get. I thought it was a reach at the time and I still do. You don’t get NHL-ready guys that late in the first round normally.
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I wonder if they would have taken him if his name was “Viktor Krum” or something like that instead of Viktor Tikhonov. Same thing with the Caps and Gustafsson. Can’t see them taking him there if his name was “Anton Jones” instead of Gustafsson.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Chris Smith.
I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 22, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Name certainly played a role I believe. If I recall most scouts had him pegged as a second rounder. He was taken with 28th pick in the draft, so they probably reached a bit.
However, He’s only 22 and I think still has the makings of a regular NHL player. He’s defensively responsible and physical. His offensive game is what I believe needed some work. He did a good job working on that aspect in the KHL when he went to Russia in the middle of last season.
The name pick the Yotes made in the following round is the one I really take issue with. Jared Staal. 2 years later and they’ve already dumped him. With good reason mind you, but that was an awful pick.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah the Staal pick was even worse. Wasn’t Tik 19 when drafted though? You don’t normally see overage kids go in the first round or even second round. It was a reach, but I can see the justification given where the franchise was at the time.
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Yes, he was over age. He was considered a late bloomer. He played well for Russian WJC team before the 2008 draft which helped his stock.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Viktor Krum plays a mean game of Quidditch.
The Caps would’ve taken Tinordi too, if he was available. Some of these guys with pedigrees have to be legit, right?
by reesem37 on Jul 22, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, for every Sutter or Hunter brother, there’s a Brent Gretzky or a Brian Verbeek.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed Keith Gretzky made the pick for the Coyotes at the draft—nobody in Staples seemed to make the connection or, if they did, care.
by bilspacecadet on Jul 22, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s been the Yotes director of amateur scouting since ’06. So, you can also blame him for all the bloodlines picks.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Did he try to draft Paulina too?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Well she has been on the ice…to sing the anthem.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
There’s been some chatter the last day or so about Tinordi going to the ’Nucks for Bieksa.
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Never gonna happen. The Habs traded up to get Tinordi, I don’t see them then turning around and swapping him for Bieksa. I could be wrong – the franchise has gone a bit nutty in recent years – but it sounded like a baseless rumor when I first heard it.
They’ve got 7 guys there already that they are legit playing all the time (Markov, Spacek, Gorges, Gill, Subban, O’Byrne, Hamrlik). I guess they would just move O’Byrne out for Bieksa?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Possibly, and it would be an upgrade, but I think it’d be silly – as you point out it’s not like they have a gaping hole on the blue line. Plus they still haven’t re-signed Price so it’s not like they’re swimming in cap space.
The only guys in that lineup I would move out for Bieksa would be O’Byrne. All of those other guys either bring more to the table than KB does, or do what he does better.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. And while Bieksa is an upgrade over O’Byrne, it’s not like that’s a hard thing to do – O’B is a 6/7 guy like Erskine, and he’s cheaper than Bieksa, too. Plus he has a fair amount of snarl and probably isn’t the worst defenseman to lace up the skates.
I can’t see them trading for Bieksa just to replace a guy who doesn’t get a ton of ice time anyway.
Igor Larionov was an 11th round pick of Vancouver in 1985.
Wow…Bret Hedican was a 10th round pick in 1988. Sergei Nemchinov, a 12th round pick in 1990.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Good ol Locker was a 10th round pick of the Habs in 1977
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Jul 22, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Claude Lapointe was drafted in the 12th round by the Nords in 1988 and racked up 879 games played and 305 points.
A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory
by Rather Bengt on Jul 22, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Holtby – heh. He’s a trip. wish they’d mic a goalie more often, that’s interesting to listen to. Actually, I wish they’d mic up Chimmer for a game.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
CSN did such a thing for a practice session late last year (which you can find here).
And I thought Tom Soehn was a shitty coach.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I listened to that – that’s why I wanted it for a regular season game. Mostly what I want to listen to is the post-whistle scrums. Likely to be funny if spicy stuff.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I’m guessing he’s a little on the Stevens/Trottier tip when it comes to chatter.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Fact: no online discussion of mic’ing hockey players can go five comments deep without a reference to Stevens/Trottier/Bellows.
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It’s probably best that people don’t hear it.
Signed,
B. Boudreau & K. Hitchcock
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 22, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
if Bruce were mic’ed, it would ruin trying to figure out how many f-bombs he just dropped.
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by RedBirdie on Jul 22, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Has the mic ever gotten broken while a player was mic’ed up?
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Didn’t Olie break a camera?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Olie, break something? never!
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They mic’d up Stevens and Trottier? I had forgotten that, if I ever knew it.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?
(Readily available on YouTube)
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Poor Stevens. He was never the same after he destroyed his face in the David Volek game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The beauty and downfall of every great power forward.
(Well, not the face smashing, per se, but you know…Playing on the edge and all that stuff)
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
Dammit I wish GIFsoup wasn’t broken right now
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
We know it gets edited before airing, so no matter how spicy, you’ll never hear it.
"It's always good to have vikings."
Proud member of the Oxford dictionary police.
You can hear Avery calling Shane O’Brien “a fucking bum” during that dustup they had this year with the Rangers and Canucks.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Poor Ray Ferraro is standing between the benches holding the “mute” button on his mic for dear life.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
The truth is an absolute defense…
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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Its around 225 of that video. I was wrong…he’s calling Hordichuk “a fucking bum” and not O’Brien, although O’Brien spears him across the bench.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
That reminds me: I was working on a commercial with Dany Heatley and Marian Gaborik a couple years back (dig my avatar) and have a bunch of audio that is fairly off-the-record (both guys were taking a break and probably forgot we had them radio miked).
One day I’ll dig it up from underneath my desk and post—all I remember was Heatley telling Gabby he had to get out of Minnesota—they’d never win, or something to that effect.
by bilspacecadet on Jul 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That sounds awesome, I’d love to hear that
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Jul 22, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow…that would be a pretty awesome bit of audio.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s already a pretty awesome avatar.
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Gracias—fairly crazed the next two weeks (especially with all the work time wasted here at the RInk) but maybe I’ll dig it up after that.
by bilspacecadet on Jul 22, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and Heatley would know about that not winning stuff…
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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. If you ignore the Olympic Gold, two World Championship Golds (and three silvers), and a World Cup Gold the guy has never won a thing.
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It’s just hockey he gets paid to play he can’t win at. That’s the solution for San Jose… pay him the league minimum, and he’d be gold!
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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
(And before someone talks about how stacked all those teams were, Heater is also the all time goals and points leader for Team Canada.)
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Thanks to not getting deep into the Stanley Cup playoffs and allowing his almost yearly participation in WC’s.
"Game's the same. Just got more fierce."
by Hooks Orpik on Jul 22, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Team Canada, dude. It’s not like there haven’t been a TON of other talented players he had to pass. Sure, he got “lucky” by being on shitty teams that let him play in the WCs, but at the end of the day he has straight up produced for Canada.
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Actually, I wish they’d mic up Chimmer for a game.
Unfortunately, it is impossible to mic up Chimera because he skates faster than the speed of sound.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 22, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
85% of AT&T customers don’t use an iPhone.
https://www.trefis.com/company?article=17410#
Besides, when Verizon starts carrying the iPhone in January, AT&T probably won’t matter, anyway, judging by poor customer service and dropped call rates. I wonder how Verizon connectivity is in the Verizon Center? :D
It’s getting off topic, but I keep hearing that the Verizon iPhone is still just a rumor, not fact.
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OT
It is just a rumor plus AT&T has an exclusivity deal with Apple until 2012 so there would be legal issues to deal with.
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I have such hetero manlove for Ovi.
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“rested” ? “get back to moving” ? dancing on a turkish yacht, vegas, russian cash only weddings, ibiza, the new russian super model chippy (and those are just the activities we know about)…guy needs to get back to hockey to relax!
it’s good to be ovie, indeed.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 22, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
J.P.
That survey on how many people know who Ovechkin is was conducted in Wisconsin. I would like to think that Minnesotans are a little more knowledgeable than the 45% of Wisconsin people that knew who Ovie was:) The guy even admitted that he thought Minnesotans would do better. Actually what was interesting is that he claimed where he lived in Wisconsin wasn’t hockey rich. Guess I don’t know Wisconsin that well.
I would have thought WI would do better as well. I’m sure MN would get better than 50%, but WI has plenty of hockey history and one of the best NCAA hockey programs in the country.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec’d for Badgers love.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 22, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I had corrected it a bit ago – refresh the page.
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27.5 percent thought he was Russia’s first astronaut? Hey, don’t give him any ideas. He’ll want to spend next summer with the Stanley Cup on the International Space Station.
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by gfcaps fan on Jul 22, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ovi did get an autographed picture of a cosmonaut in 2006. Cosmonaut Mikhail Tyurin sent that picture to Ovi around the time he was on the International Space Station.
Link here:
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/ovechkin_tyurin_prt.htm
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one thing the article didn’t say was where in south central Wisconsin this was. Some parts are still really rural (like, no cable service rural). Those towns, they love their high school hockey, in that area they probably also follow UW hockey, but they’re likely not NHL followers.
As far as Wisconsin not being hockey-rich: everywhere but Canada seems less enthralled with hockey if you’re from Minnesota. The Minnesota high school hockey championships gets broadcast in prime time. It’s insane.
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i'm a madison resident, and I assume that is where this guy probably is
uw hockey is the big ticket item here, but it still doesn’t compete with basketball and football at the UW. we do have some hockey talent here like Phil Kessel, Brian Rafalski, and the kitten saver Steckel.
we aren’t as rural as you might think though, most people here do casually cheer for either the blackhawks or wild, or the milwaukee admirals
you’re right though, high school hockey is a big deal, but badger hockey is the biggest deal
hockey is big here, but not as big as minnesota, yeah
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I assume he’s likely in Madison, too, but you never know. Some of those little towns around Baraboo or southwest of Madison are pretty off the beaten path. (although everything south of Highway 8 is “Southern Wisconsin” to me)
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You just mentioned Phil Kessel and Dave Steckel but left Ryan Suter off the list?
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Yeah, I wondered. Not only that, but he left off former Badger, reigning college hockey player of the year and current Nashville Predator Blake Geoffrion. He’s not from Madison, but he did play at UW.
Suter’s certainly more known than Steckel, and as far as I know is pretty big around the community up there.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Lebron vs. Ovechkin
Lebron James: Uses an hour of time on ESPN to announce the signing of his new contract.
Alex Ovechkin: Travels from Russia to the USA to sign his first contract. Meets up with Jeff Halpern, Dainius Zubrus and Olie Kolzig who are at the VC and are headed out to the Armory to help feed Katrina evacuees and asks to go with them to the Armory…
I think that about sums up the differences… yeah.
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Lebron James: Uses an hour of time on ESPN to announce the signing of his new contract.
… and then donates the proceeds to Boys and Girls Club. Seems like they are both pretty charitable.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 22, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
… and then donates the proceeds to Boys and Girls Club
Of Greenwich Village
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
um…PART of the proceeds. i think he donated $250K but his production team earned over $300K or something like that. i could be wrong on the exact number. a good deed no doubt, but LBJ could stroke a $250K to the boys and girls club without going through the ego-baiting.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 22, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I never saw an exact figure, but the University of Phoenix matched his donation.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 22, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bit OT, but...
Is there a section in the CBA that lays out (even if not very specifically) when the NHL can void contracts?
I know there is language in the SPC, which is attached to the CBA as Exhibit 1, related to failure to report or not follow rules/contract obligations, etc.
Like I indicated above, take a look at Exhibit 1, the actual SPC attached, there is wording in there.
I don’t see anything in there that addresses that. I could just be missing it in all the legal-speak, though.
When I have time later, I’ll take a look, but if I am understanding your question correctly, the wording is in there. It’s not very specific, but it gives the organization an out if the player does not meet the obligations of the SPC.
That’s not what my question was – I was asking if it shows what rights the NHL has to void contracts, such as the Kovy situation.
Sorry about that, I misunderstood your question, yes, it’s 11.6 and also some wording in Article 26, I believe, although the NHL is pointing to 11.6 from what I have seen in the comments so far.
He was making a joke.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Apparently I’m slow.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Random firing up of the wayback machine:
“Washington planned to rebuild its team around players like Ovechkin, Alexander Semin and Jakub Klepis.” [Link]
Ha!
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No, they just didn’t re-sign him. Hell of a KHLer, though.
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I probably got the name wrong. Who’s the guy they are still paying buyout money to? I think it might be Ben something… but I can’t remember.
Clymer. But they’re done with him.
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I always loved that article from the Leafs guy who said the Caps should trade Ovechkin to the Leafs.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
So you’re saying you wouldn’t trade Ovechkin for Kaberle, Rask, and Alex Steen? :P
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty funny that the 2 best/most valuable of those players are no longer Leafs, yet Kaberle is still there.
That OFB article is the internet at its best. The dumbest of speculations remain on file for years on end.
Actually the Toronto Sun article in the post you linked has gone down the memory hole. Good thing you excerpted it!
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There’s no guarantee that Ovechkin is a Max Bentley, but he’s the only NHL player today with that potential. He can’t do it for Washington, but he could for Toronto — if given the chance.
Heh.
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THN had one in 2007 as well.
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by red army line on Jul 22, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Mike Brophy write a really terrible article about how Ovechkin couldn’t enjoy playing to empty seats in Washington and thus needed to be traded to a “real” hockey market?
Brophy certainly floated this turd:
A source told sportsnet.ca Washington’s Alexander Ovechkin is so upset about having to pay 18 per cent of his salary to escrow he is prepared to consider leaving the Capitals after this season. Sources say Ovechkin expressed his displeasure with having to pay escrow during an NHLPA conference call meant to talk about the direction of the organization.
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Escrow costs Alex ~20,000 per game. That’s not chicken feed. But it is part of the contract that he signed, so…
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It’s a LOT of money and he has a legitimate beef. I just loved the idea that something like that would make him walk away from the NHL, though – he makes plenty, I’m sure it’s not a big enough deal to make him quit the Caps.
I also love the fact that he’s not the only one complaining about escrow yet is the only one singled out for it. Even Brooksie has expressed disdain for it.
Don’t you know it’s because he makes so much money, why should he care?
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Part of the context of the reporting of Ovi’s complaint is that (when this was all originally reported) Sid had started to take some informal leadership responsibilities with the Players Association. This was the period where Paul Kelly was being ousted and Sid ordered somebody (have to look up who) off a conference call and the hockey media swooned. But simultaneously Ovi was taking charge of the “we’re playing in Sochi come hell or high water” process, so his possible petulance and legit question about escrow came just in time to discredit him.
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I just remember finding the whole thing obnoxious. Guaranteed he wasn’t the only one concerned with escrow on that call, and guaranteed there were plenty of guys chiming in – and I’m sorry, it’s his money and he has a right to take an interest on how much goes away and where it goes. People seemed to take offense to that for some reason, I don’t really get it.
But yeah, definitely fed into the whole parallel of Sid as gracious but hard-nosed leader who has the best interests of team, union and league at heart – Ovie as greedy, single-minded Russian whose best interests lie in Sochi in 2014.
Agreed. Ovie has legitimate gripes about escrow, but since he has a big contract he’ll have to discuss it in terms of how it impacts most players.
Players who don’t take an interest in where their money is going end up like Feds.
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I also love the fact that he’s not the only one complaining about escrow yet is the only one singled out for it.
That’s the problem I had with that article. Note, of course, that the Kovalchuk deal would kill players on escrow in a way that Ovi’s deal doesn’t.
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Was that the same article where the guy praised Sid for bringing the Union together instead of being worried about his selfish escrow money?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Brooksie didn’t care about money?
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Man, with hindsight in our favor, Brooks sure looks like an asshole! I love it.
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Man,with hindsight in our favor,Brooks sure looks like an asshole! I love it.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jul 22, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
But Brooksie is my favorite hockey writer.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jul 22, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that this is what we’re reduced to in the dog days of summer. Reading Larry Brooks articles from 2007. Yet, despite the passing of the years, it never loses its entertainment value. I don’t think anyone could have been more wrong on virtually every assumption than Brooks was in that “column”. Frankly, if I had written that tripe, I’d have quit out of embarrassment by now.
I’m deeply amused that Eric Belanger’s name pops up in that post.
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In fairness, that article was written in the context of a potential contract impasse. Things worked out, contract wise, and we never had to see that theory tested.
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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
And the Caps were still sitting in last place when it was written as well. They hadn’t pulled off their turnaround that season yet.
They were like the Miracle Braves baseball team of 1914 who were sitting in last place on July 4 but turned it around and ended up in first place that year. (Except their post season had a much happier ending than the Caps of 2007-2008 — they won the World Series. Yup, baseball had only one round of playoffs in those days.)
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To be even more detailed, the Capitals extended him a QO and he did not sign his QO. Same situation as Fleischmann as both came to training camp without contracts and tried to earn a contract after not accepting/signing their QOs. TF signed a contract and Klepis went to Hershey on a professional tryout contract hoping to find an NHL contract either with the Caps or via a trade and when that didn’t happen he went back to the Czech Republic and later to the KHL.
Technically, the Capitals still own his rights since he was qualified and did not accept unless they released him and no indication that happened; he becomes UFA next summer as he turns 27yo in June of 2011.
On the semi-related Flash note, will we be blessed with a mock arbitration prior to Fleischmann’s hearing?
Not bloody likely. Better chance he’s traded (also not bloody likely).
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But there is the very real chance the arbitrator hands out a $3-3.5 million ruling and the Caps walk away.
No. There is very, very little chance that the Caps walk away from a decision in that range.
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Agreed. But it’s not something away from which the team would walk.
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After looking at the list of 23-goal scorers from last season and what they’re getting paid, I guess I have to agree. In fact, I’m now thinking Flash’s award will be closer to the $3.5-4 million range:
Wojtek Wolski-$3,800,000
Milan Hejduk-$3,000,000
K. Huselius-$4,750,000
RJ Umberger-$3,750,000
You’ve got some UFA guys in there.
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Ahh. Well, taking out the UFAs might help lower the award, but I still think the Caps are going to get a number they won’t like.
I’m not even going to get to that point because I’m already so sure we’ll be overpaying I’ve already gotten over it. Unless the deal comes in over 3.7 and the Caps don’t walk then I’m not going to freak out too hard.
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It’s just fucking frustrating. It’s another in a long line of “We’re all good!” sentiments from on high. Your coach didn’t even trust him when all was on the line, so, let’s pay him lots and lots more? Dictionary definition of “insanity” in 3…2…
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I think you’re looking for the Einstein definition of insanity.
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I was going for “b : something utterly foolish or unreasonable” but I suppose the “over-and-over again” works, too.
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Upon further review, I like (from Webster)
: such unsoundness of mind or lack of understanding as prevents one from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship
Sorry, Flash, we’re not ALLOWED to give you a contract, because, you know, insane and all.
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I’ll get over the award, whatever it is. It’s the seemingly everlasting affair that is impossible to get over (until it’s too fucking late, like game 7 last year, the year before…)
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by bigonetimer on Jul 22, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You can’t pay Fleischmann “Umberger-money.” Umberger plays the game the right way (if you doubt that, just ask him); Fleischmann, well…
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by ThePeerless on Jul 22, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Flash for 2.8 million has a nice ring to it. I think anything over 3 is overpayment, but that’s what the arbitrator is for. Not really looking forward to what the number is…
I think a penny over $2.5m is more than he’s worth, but sometimes you overpay guys (and doing so when you’re not cap-crunched and on a one-year deal for a guy whose points-per-game have increased in each season in this League, the AHL and WHL wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world).
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And considering that maintaining his rights is the only way we’ll get anything close to value in return for him.
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I guess that begs the question of whether another team will see an award of say $3.5 million for a 26-year old player who scored 23 goals in 69 games and think the contract is insane. I could see a lot of GMs looking at Flash and thinking he’s a potential 30 goal, 70 point player who’d be a bargain at $3.5 million.
Maybe if Flash were a great fighter…
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jul 22, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. He has upside…maybe he breaks out for 35 this year. I could give a damn, as long as he shows up for the playoffs.
Best case (realistic) scenario is probably he comes out of the gate on fire and is a key piece in a trade that brings the Caps a more battled-tested player in return.
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by J.P. on Jul 22, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But if he comes out of the gate on fire, do you really think management lets him go? I think it’s much more likely they say “SEE? HE’S GREAT” and then they keep him and he fizzles post-February like he always does.
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More of a flatline than a fizzle.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
So what would it take for people to think Flash was worth holding onto? A point per game at center, along with winning 50% of his faceoffs?
I agree with you. I’d love for J.P.‘s prediction to come true, but I don’t see it. THIS was the off-season that he broke through!
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Yep. And that ship has sailed – should’ve moved him before the arb bomb went off.
But y’never know.
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Right, y’never know and it’s too late to do anything about it now. It’s just frustrating because, like last summer, the problems we are facing later in the summer were entirely foreseeable at the draft, and could have been dealt with then.
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I thought I read you couldn’t trade a guy if you signed him after arbitration (walk aways not withstanding).
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What it says is that there is a no trade for a year clause if someone matches an RFA offer sheet, see Chicago and Niklas Hjalmarsson. They can’t trade him for 12 months.
However, there is no trade restriction in the current CBA as it relates to player contracts entered into via arbitration.
yup. we traded jurcina last year after his arb award.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 22, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
But here’s my question. His agent was using Plekanec as a comparable, and Pleks was at $2.75 million…do we really think he’s asking for more than $3? I agree that $2.5 is the max that he’s worth but anything below $3 million is, while maybe not reasonable, definitely easier to swallow than some of the numbers people are scared of.
How does Fehr’s contract enter into it? He played the same number of games and his numbers were slightly lower, but his +/- was better. In less playing time. Not the same style of player, but would/could that help keep the award under or around $3million?
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Fehr isn’t a good comparable, as their respective career-to-platform games played isn’t all that close.
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The comparables is what I can’t wait to see. David Perron did us a big favor yesterday but the I still think the arbitrators come down on the player’s side in these things.
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The comparables is what I can’t wait to see.
Doubt you’ll ever get to see ’em.
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So the teams aren’t forced to release that stuff? I guess I’ll settle for the comparables you guys pick.
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They’re definitely not forced to release that stuff.
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Which means GMGM never will. Boo.
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didn’t ShoMo’s agent release the comparables to Mirtle a couple years back?
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Hasn’t McPhee told reporters about the comparables he offered in past arbitration cases? I remember something about him using Mo as a comparable for Juice, or the other way around..
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
Not sure if he has or not… but I think you’re right about using Mo as a comp in the Juice arb.
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Not allowed to per the CBA during the process and hard to see GMGM and company ever doing it if they don’t have to after the fact.
Jurcina’s agent is/was Allan Walsh so my guess is if someone read something about a comparable it was something mentioned from their side.
What I recall being reported about Jurcina’s hearing were the numbers each side asked for including the fact that Walsh/Jurcina smartly asked for below the walkaway number and some comments from Walsh about the process.
The information that came out about the Shaone Morrisonn hearing a few years ago was great to read because it is so rare to see any info. released or leaked about these arb. hearings.
I’m sure Flash’s camp will use the argument that this was a guy who battled a life-threatening blood condition that limited his ability to train. Once he got his stamina back, he performed at a very high level. However, his lack of pre-season training eventually caught up with him resulting in his late-season downturn on into the playoffs. I know that’s the argument I’d use (and it could be true).
That’s exactly what they will say and the agent has already publicly made comments to that effect.
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Flash is the type of player that gives GMs nightmares. They live in fear that the moment they trade him, he puts it all together and has monster season. You know that’s what Bruce is telling McPhee whenever there’s a mention of letting him go.
I’m still holding out hope he gets MacArthur’s arbitrator and gets an award of 4.5 mil.
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by Carl Putnam on Jul 22, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Why did MacArthur of the 16 goals and 31 points walk away? Isnt that lunacy?
by S h a g g y on Jul 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The team walked, not the player (who couldn’t).
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F-ing A, I thought ATL qualified him at $2 Million – I just now read the arbitration award. Guess that was a pretty dumb comment.
Didnt they give up a 3rd and 4th rounder for him?
by S h a g g y on Jul 22, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
QO was for 1.4M, the player filed for arbitration instead of accepting 1.4M.
This case is not the norm, IMO, in terms of arbitration hearings. The team from all appearances planned to walk regardless of the award as long as it was over the walkaway number and while no way to know for sure, it appears didn’t put up much of an argument against MacArthur and his agent’s case.
There have been management changes since that trade was made for MacArthur. MacArthur at his QO of 1.4M is different than MacArthur at more than that amount and Atlanta has made a lot of off-season changes, including bringing in a number of forwards via trade with Chicago. Things change. Of note, the Ladd trade was after QOs were extended.
Plannin’ on it.
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Sergei Fedorov won’t be going to court after all. [Forbes]
From the “if you can’t understand what it says, just call a goddamn lawyer” file, the headline to this article is “NHL Star Sergei Federov Drops Malpractice Suit Against Hyman Lippitt.” WRONG! The right headline would be “Fedorov Settles Malpractice Suit Against Hyman Lippitt.” They bury the lede into the second paragraph, where in passing they say that the legal filing states “that the parties had resolved their dispute and that the case should be dismissed without costs or attorneys’ fees to either party.”
Fedorov didn’t drop shit. They came to an agreement, which will probably stay confidential forever, but for all we know he got paid a substantial amount of money.
Every time I read a media article on legal topics that is this poorly written, I wonder how badly the press is butchering all the other articles I’m reading where I don’t have any particular expertise. The iPhone antenna writing has been particularly bad. Actual RF engineers are either pulling their hair out or laughing their asses off at reporters trying to explain what the problem is (no, you can’t “short circuit” one antenna to another).
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Agreed. Hell, had he just dropped it, it’d be a bigger story.
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That Hyman Lippitt firm is a den of thieves. Representing both Fedorov and the Ponzi scheme guy for the fraudulent investments themselves, and the worthless settlement that came out of it??? Hope Feds got something good out of the settlement with the firm.
… allegedly.
Don’t believe everything you read in a complaint.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
but if I don’t believe everything in the complaint, how am I supposed to collect evidence of a vast global conspiracy?!
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Thanks for clarifying that, G.O.D. I wondered about that. I really liked the snippet from the judge, laying out the apparent inequity with a sneering contempt for apparent shysterism. I sincerely hope Fedorov made out reasonably well for all the harm they did. Next I hope to hear that he won’t lose his home after all, but that may take more time to resolve. I suppose it happens fairly often but one usually thinks of the victims as being dotty old ladies. Poor old Fedorov. And now he has another year in Siberia to endure!
but at least he’s playing with his brother in Siberia!
I doubt he got enough from the lawfirm to save his two houses in Detroit. But maybe he’ll make enough in the KHL this season to help with that.
he’s probably more concerned with saving his place in South Beach. I know I would be.
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I am a cheesehead, lived in wisconsin my entire life and I certainly know who alex ovechkin is
people aren’t as dumb as that article says, however, I am the only caps fan I know in the area.
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I’ve met plenty of people around the country that don’t know who Ovechkin is…they aren’t dumb just ignorant.
Having a quarter of the staff members select Ovechkin as the first person is space is pretty dumb though. Even worse is the 20% of students and staff members selecting him as the current Russian President.
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Interesting point. How do high school teachers not know who the first Russian in space is? Sad commentary on our education system.
But honestly I can’t name a lot of stars in other sports, and I don’t think that my inability to identify NBA stars or tell you who the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders means those sports are irrelevant or need to do a better job of marketing. You watch what you like, you know what you watch. Hockey is never going to unseat baseball or football or basketball as a major draw in the US and I think we’ve all made our peace with that; I’m happy knowing that a lot of people in DC who wouldn’t usually watch are paying attention to it now and enjoying it while it lasts.
I was more pissed off at the swipe at the Caps, calling us “one of the most pathetic franchises”. Really?
tell you who the quarterback of the Oakland Raiders
Washington Redskins Legend Jason Campbell.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting point. How do high school teachers not know who the first Russian in space is?
Because they’re Real American, damn it. Duh.
Also, wait, what? You don’t know who the Raiders quarterback is?
It’s not an issue of being dumb, but unless you are really into hockey, the average sportfan is not going to see NHL highlights on the local news since there’s no local team to cover and you’re not going to see much watching SportCenter. They’re as likely to be all that familiar with individual players (especially ones with crazy foreign sounding names).
by Eggseronius on Jul 22, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
(Mildly) amusing: http://headtothe.net/nhl/texts-fly-as-kovalchuks-contract-is-rejected/
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Even WTOP can’t get the name of the blog right. They spelt it “Japer’s Rink” not “Japers’ Rink”
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Reminds me of one of my favorite blog diversions:
http://www.apostrophecatastrophes.com/
Choking since 1985.
Haha I like Holtby, watching that slashing video gives you the wrong idea about him. Was Olie ever that talkative in net?
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Jul 22, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions
During games? I think so. Definitely was during practice – and if you were lucky (or, you know, capable of hearing) you could catch him launching more than a few f-bombs towards his teammates.
I still remember going to one of those informal skates the guys do at Kettler a few years ago, and they were doing a little scrimmage. I guess Olie didn’t like the effort, or lack thereof, and absolutely went off on everyone. Started yelling like a maniac about how it was BULLSH*T and they were LAZY and…oh man, it was hilarious.
I’m not sure Olie’s mouth ever stopped. And if he was on the ice, there was no filter.
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New Hershey Goalie
Someone needs to tell DeMike before he settles on a design that the Hershey company doesn’t like images of their chocolate used on a goalie’s mask.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
Re Jagr and richest NHL contracts
“The Czech winger, who signed before the salary cap days, earned more money per game than Bobby Orr made in three seasons.”
Jesus wept.
Matty Perreault and Francois Bouchard are playing in David Perron’s charity tournament this week. Aw.
http://www.aboutdesouffle.qc.ca/joueurs.asp
I’ve not been able to find any pix from the earlier tourney.
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I heard they rode there on a bicycle built for two.
Why wouldn't you play Perreault? He's a really talented young player.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jul 22, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gouttes de pluie continuent de tomber sur ma tête…
by Becca H on Jul 22, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you needed further proof that hockey players are different, take a look at what Cody Eakin’s junior coach has been doing in his spare time:
http://www.scbroncos.com/news/1418/
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More vacation stories
Varly went to a local (in Samara, his hometown) elementary school:
After a solemn flag-raising , which marked the opening of the competitions, for teams of participants and their fans were pupils of sports schools. Numbers of young gymnasts perform miracles of flexibility, and dance ensemble , dancing like mad under the hip-hop, many times multiplied competitive play guys. And to encourage young athletes to further, took the floor guest – Senior goalie hockey team the Washington Capitals – our countryman Semyon Varlamov .
His example is truly worthy of emulation – in his twenties Semyon has achieved major sporting success. "Sports should be from childhood – convinced hockey . – I recommend it to everybody , because physical activity is developing in a person the best quality.
Students listened to every word of a famous athlete , and after building surrounded him – asked for a picture with them and sign autographs . But Semyon is the attention was on his heart and he gladly talked with the guys.
So skinny!
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what a cute picture! Thanks for the update. Loving all the Caps vacation posts of yours. I would kill to see a video of Varly dancing to hip hop.
I wanna see a picture of him eating. Too thin.
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He looks fine for a goalie.
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He’s whippy. Theo was really skinny, too.
…and gosh darn it if those aren’t the cutest dimples EVER.
Yeah, go take a look at Ryan Miller. Until someone is thinner than that it’s not a concern for me.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 22, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
F=MA, so the skinnier they are, the faster their glove hand moves per unit of force.
Or something.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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Now granted, I’m a jerk as well, but I fully agree with this article. The NHL needs more personality and yet every time someone sticks their neck out and shows something that isn’t 100% processed and labeled for public consumption we go and ride the guy out of town. We can bitch about Crosby’s demeanor, but the bottom line is that we are getting exactly what we deserve. It’s all we’ll accept, and so it’s all we’ll get.
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I really enjoyed his tweets. I also knew it was too good to last.
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He was the closest anyone has gotten to getting me to sign up for Twitter.
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Have you read Dan Ellis’?
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Just what has been quoted here. He’s good, but he’s no BizNasty.
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Right; agreed. Just wondering.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I only see Tweets when they get posted here, as a general rule.
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Gotcha. Someone at least needs to start a parody account for you ;).
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t be shocked if it happens, but y’all better make it good.
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It’d be nigh impossible to contain you to 140 characters.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on this. Shame he had to get rid of it.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Hunter's Turning 50
and having a party if anyone is in the area, lol
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While understanding that many of you don’t care about the Predators or Western Conference hockey, if you have a little time or perhaps are interested, give this a read.
The ownership group has recently settled the controversial business with Del Biaggo, and so (I think) 27% of the team’s shares are back available. Obviously, this means that Brett Wilson from Calgary and Warren Woo from California can buy in. And David Poile gets his full salary cap, sooner rather than later.
Its a great time to be a fan, here – we’ll be icing the best team in franchise history (in my opinion), the ownership has stated that Ryan Suter and Shea Weber will absolutely, positively be re-signed, and now the financial problems are on the way out the door.
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That is great news for NSH. I saw that Boots was finally being bought out but haven’t had the time to read up on the details yet. The sooner you guys can spend to the cap the better. The haters consistently mistake your lack of ownership stability with a lack of fan base, or even worse a lack of production on the ice. It’s easy to convince yourself that NSH doesn’t have fans; it’s downright ignorant to overlook their consistent on-ice success. With the guys you have now and the farm you have on the way, getting more financial security couldn’t come at a better time.
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Yep. While there certainly have been attendance issues in the past, they’ve been totally overblown – we’ve never missed revenue sharing. And we don’t suck, either – only four teams have hit 40 wins five years in a row. We’re one of ’em.
That success has come with a salary cap of usually 10m or more below the norm. Now, certainly, a lot of money is going to be spent on Weber, Suter, Wilson, and Hornqvist in the near future, but Poile and the ownership supposedly plan 3 years in advance, so the extra money will still be welcome. We had 100 points 15 million dollars below the cap. That’s not too bad. I’m pretty excited to see what can be done here with solidified owners and no monetary issues.
That said, this is all for naught if we can’t win a fucking playoff series. I love Barry Trotz as much as anyone, but this is the make or break year for me. We’ve had eleven years of playoff mediocrity. Enough is enough.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I can appreciate that. It’s tough to always be credited for just making the playoffs. Trotz gets a ton of credit and regardless of either of our opinions he’s not going anywhere. It’s not really fair to put the playoff exits on him, IMO. There have been some brutal draws in that list and as you said he’s generally carrying a lot less firepower just because of the financial constraints.
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I can’t really justify bitching about no recognition, either, with the litany of playoff chokes. But yeah. Trotz is not going anywhere.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think you guys have a history of playoff chokes. You ran into some great teams (DET, CHI) and you hit SJS a couple times when they had very good teams. I never looked at your roster and thought you were bound to roll over people. The closest was the 100 point year but that wasn’t terrible, IMO. And even if it was, it was just one year.
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Preds are one Czech winger/center away from the Promised Land!
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No, Martin Erat’s still under contract…
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Czech winger/centers?
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This time last year, sure. Not now, though. Little Tits is all the offensively inconsistent floaty winger I can handle in one offseason.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
From the outsider’s perspective, you’re probably right. But between being up 2-1 on a shitty Sharks team and 13.6 seconds from being up 3-2 on the Blackhawks, its still upsetting.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. But Trotz didn’t throw that puck up the middle of the ice on the PP with a lead in the final minute.
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No, that was fucking dumbass Martin Erat. (those Czechs…) But Trotz could’ve coached his team to convert on the five minute major in overtime.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
obviously
He couldn’t have MADE them convert – but it was a recurring problem, you see.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, count me as a Preds fan here. You’re graced with my favorite GM and one of my favorite coaches.
Chris, you don’t link good articles about the Preds enough. I’m always happy to read what you bring.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 22, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hank Zetterberg is getting married this weekend. Here’s a liitle gallery of some of his pre-wedding wedding party activities.
I am NOT responsible for any retinal damage you may sustain.
Oh, and now we know where Nick gets those hats from:
http://www.expressen.se/1.2073360?articlePopup=true&img=1
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Yup, he’s a Red Wing.
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by Chris Burton on Jul 22, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
OT, but Caps-related
2010 US Hockey HOF inductees were announced today. Roenick and both Hatchers were on the list.
Anything hockey is kosher in the Clips, so this falls on-topic.
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