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Saturday Caps Clips: Development Camp Day Six & FanFest

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Your savory Saturday brunch links:

  • The final scrimmage of the 2010 Capitals Development Camp begins today at 10.  The schedule of everything else is available here: [Caps Fan Fest Schedule]
  • Camp coverage from the previous 24 hours:
    • Back in CapsLand, Alex Ovechkin has taken a summer job. [Puck Daddy]
    • Brooks Laich dropped by Kettler, and dropped some wisdom.  He's awesome laich that, y'know. [CI]
    • Uncle Ted has a big announcement pending, and Mike Knuble will be there with the assist. [Ted's Take]
    • Plus there's a new logo pending and no need to wait.  It's Monumental! (after the jump) [Bog]

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Seeing Ted’s logo makes me wonder where the superheros are. Spidey? Batman? You there?

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by can't skate on Jul 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

“Monumental” = “Tunnel Ammo”.. ammo.. battery.. Battery! The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel! That’s where the secret hideout must be!

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by winterion on Jul 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

golly that’s a bad logo.

by bilspacecadet on Jul 17, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

On their podcast, Vogs & Stretch mentioned the WC unis were at KCI this week. Anyone going to the fanfest want to do a little spy work today?

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by bagace on Jul 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Whew! Back in the US and catching up. Gotta love Brooksie – and you have to think that the players know when to worry, so if he’s not worried, maybe some of us fans need to stop fussing so much.

Can’t wait to see what MJ90’s got. I haven’t gone through all the back links and comments, but from Corey’s link, it sounds as if so far so good. Him rotating back defensively by instinct will probably serve us well – can we put him with AS28 on the PP?

My Caps beach towel paid a visit or two. Look for pics in the coming days in the Fanshots.

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by gotsparkly on Jul 17, 2010 10:13 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Center and rotating back defensively, words that comes with the mothers milk in Sweden. You should start with reading IceWarriors The Mackan Manifesto.

by SwedeTom on Jul 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Got a link?

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by gotsparkly on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Be nice, I’m on a BB. I can’t see that and I’ve been utterly without all Internet for a week so I’ve got a lot of catching up to do.

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by gotsparkly on Jul 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I like your implication of a second power play unit.

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by winterion on Jul 17, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I found a video of the Delly-Bruess fight today. Is not very good but it’s something.

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by CapsFan2020 on Jul 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Delly had the upper hand. And that there was already another white team player in the box. Would be interesting to know what lead up to Bruess’ decision to get sucked into a 2nd penalty for his team.

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by mrszilla on Jul 17, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruess had been giving Eakin a hard time and Della Rovere took exception to it

by ahwahoo2006 on Jul 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bruess took a swing at Eakin’s ankles/skates/leg area just after the Finley/Pisano fight had finished. Delly went out there and dropped the gloves with Bruess immediately after the puck dropped to resume play.

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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 17, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The first fight had barely finished when the second one started. Almost like they were staged.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it was staged, it was Delly sticking up for Eakin. I could be wrong.

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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 17, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now that you mention it, I do remember reading about that. I probably missed the beginning of that fight since I was probably watching the participants from the last fight going to the penalty box.

Must admit that I was stunned to see a fight happen when the last one had barely finished.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had my eye on Pisano in the box when the second started.

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other player in the box was Pisano, who had just been sent off for fighting Finley seconds earlier. Bruess’ team wasn’t shorthanded when he fought Delly.

by Cluster on Jul 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finley and Pisano telegraphed their fight when they stopped to chat on their way off the ice at the end of the first period. Then they dropped the gloves early in the second.

Delly and Bruess had been working their way up to a clash most of the week, and I guess decided to use the Finley/Pisano throwdown as a appetizer. Their middleweight match was much better. We met one of the referees in the elevator later, and he was marveling that Delly threw three uppercuts – and landed them all. he also said that Della Rovere/Bruess would have been fined in an actual pro game for fighting prior to the puck drop.

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by EmilyB on Jul 17, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the updates! Couldn’t see the other penalty box in the video, or the Finley/Pisano fight so this all makes a lot more sense.

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by mrszilla on Jul 17, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both fights are now in the FanShot sidebar, FWIW.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I filmed that! Thanks for criticizing my filming :(

Nah, it was a good fight. Bruess was bloodied up – you could see it all over his jersey and the penalty box.

Bruess – Eakin – Della Rovere would be hell for other teams as one line.

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by Steck It Out on Jul 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

That line sounds incredibly icky to play against.

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha, sorry!!! Anyway, I found it on the HFBoards.

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by CapsFan2020 on Jul 17, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

fighting at a development camp? I really just don’t get it.

by Brainumbc on Jul 17, 2010 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m convinced someone could create two hockey teams to play against each other. On one team, they could put Ovi, Crosby, Mike Richards, Pronger, Brodeur, among other people, and call it the Blue Birds. On the other team, they could put Semin, Malkin, Jeff Carter, Timmonen, Keith Seebrook, Dan Boyle, Fleury; etc. and call it the Robins. (Of course, we have to fill out both rosters but I’m too lazy to think further.)

I think the Bluebirds and the Robins would play a very good, tough, and spirited game against one another and the guys would bond as teammates.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m confused and delighted and did I mention confused?

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

fighting at a development camp? I really just don’t get it.

People will do many things to try to get noticed when they’re in a battle for a limited number of jobs

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by Gould Old Days on Jul 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then there’s the added aggression that comes with 20 year olds playing hockey.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 17, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought it was obvious enough. This is your last chance to make a positive impression on the Caps’ brass – a lot of guys that age aren’t against using their fists to do so. This is about getting an invite to training camp for some of these guys.

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by gotsparkly on Jul 18, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Future 2nd and 3rd line centers?

Actually, shameless excuse to flaunt my access. Apologies. But I did like what I saw from Galiev today. A lot.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

It’s hard not to be excited about the potential of this year’s draft class the way Galiev and Kuznetsov have performed. I haven’t been there to see them, but it sounds like Kuz has star potential.

And look at that crowd! Would never guess this is a rookie camp scrimmage based on that shot.

by grapejoos on Jul 17, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does. He stands out.

But he could use some work on his footwork and definitely his conditioning – he was spent today (as were a lot of ‘em, though Cody Eakin still had a ton of jump – I’m not breaking news by saying that he’s one to watch, for sure.)

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

They were telling people if they walked out the door, they wouldn’t be allowed back in.

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by gfcaps fan on Jul 17, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t believe coming back. The kid said he told me, but there was no way he did.

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it. Galiev’s my favorite of this year’s new crop, I think. I obviously liked Kuznetsov today, also, but your first-rounder ought to show some talent.

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by CapitalCentre on Jul 17, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn’t Galiev a RW?

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by Whiter Mage on Jul 17, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re making a center out of him.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I missed that, with his being drafted as a winger and him playing RW during camp while I was there. Did he get much center time today?

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by Whiter Mage on Jul 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

All camp, as far as I know.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

pardon the follow up, but who stood out as a faceoff guy in the pivot group?

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by bigonetimer on Jul 17, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No one. No one was really putting forth a ton of effort in the dot today.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks—I guess I’m not much surprised. If Mackan can handle that particular element and demonstrate a solid defensive game overall I’m willing to live with modest offensive output.

Is it fall yet?

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by bigonetimer on Jul 17, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

He started as RW in the first scrimmage (the one I saw) then was moved to the 2nd line as C for the second one—wish I had been there—sounded like it was good.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 17, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t see much of him at center in the scrimmage I saw, is all.

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by Whiter Mage on Jul 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

He played RW for the Q because he was on a stacked team, but I think he’s a natural C and I know the Caps Brass says they like him more at C.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It seemed as if anyone who could play center this morning, did.

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by ThePeerless on Jul 17, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question above answered. Thanks.

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by Whiter Mage on Jul 17, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Given that one center went down with an injury today; i.e. AnGus. So someone else had to be pressed into duty.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Galiev and Gus were on different teams.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

True. But they still needed centers.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Care to expound? Was he playing C today? Was it his playmaking, puck control, what?

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

For one example, his shootout goal showed a lot of poise and patience. Just the way he didn’t rush his shot, and held on to the puck until the goalie was committed.

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by CapitalCentre on Jul 17, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Outstanding puck control, nice vision, too. But hard to gauge much with so many dogs out there.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love the picture. May have to steal oops borrow it for my desktop.

I could not believe the madness there but I was glad we got there early enough a seat near the glass.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 17, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Taken with a little ol’ iPhone, too.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks real good on my desktop—those two cutie patooies.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 17, 2010 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll solve those two vacancies in the long run, when these kids grow up. The question is …. will it be soon enough for them to go with our current crop of wingers?

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve been raving about Galiev all week, and this morning’s scrimmage did nothing to change my mind. This kid is going to be a very very very good player in the NHL. I’m shocked at how far he dropped in the draft. He’s already in North America and he wants to stay in North America. It’s going to be a real treat to watch him.

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by RedBirdie on Jul 17, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He had a very good day today. He’s such a cute kid. I could recognize him at the autograph table even sans name tag.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really too bad you just posted this. It should be green for the punchline.

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by gfcaps fan on Jul 18, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was getting autographs from the prospects and about 3 of them didn’t have their name tags in front. I could recognize Galiev but the others were tougher. So when I asked who they were, one guy answered “Stalin”. That was Kuznetsov! He’s a character! It reminded me of the Star Trek epidode where Chekov said he was Tsar of Russia when Apollo said he was Apollo.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Heh.

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by J.P. on Jul 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha that is amazing. He has a personality to match Ovi!

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by Ovechwin on Jul 17, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s pretty cheeky. I love it.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 17, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. When I interviewed him you could tell he was loving life. When I go though my photos it’s almost impossible to find a photo where he isn’t smiling.

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by cobracg on Jul 17, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll see if I can post video of the shootout soon as a Fanshot.

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by Steck It Out on Jul 17, 2010 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Marcus Johansson wasn’t as noticable today (to me) as I had hoped. Eakin and Kuz were the players I noticed most often.

Orlov misplayed a couple rushes, seemed to pick the wrong times to jump up in the play and didn’t stand out like I remembered him from last season. Could just be an end of camp thing.

Finley’s first pass out of the zone was better than I expected. I’m still taking the under on JP’s 1 NHL game played over/under bet.

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by Sombrero Guy on Jul 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I noticed those guys (Eakin and Kuz) as well even though Kuz didn’t score today. I also noticed Galiev and Miele, the little center who scored.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question that I’d like to debate on this thread:

Are the ESPY’s less meaningful than the regular NHL awards (Hart, Selke, etc.)?

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes.

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by boutros23 on Jul 17, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The whats? ESPY’s = all star voting. No more.

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by gfcaps fan on Jul 17, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely less meaningful. How is this even a debate?

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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s gotta be someone that would defend the ESPY’s.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well…cye.

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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren’t the ESPYs voted by fans on the Internet? I think that makes them completely without meaning. The regular NHL awards that are done by vote are worth more.

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by CapitalCentre on Jul 17, 2010 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Additionally, its completely egotistical self-indulgence by ESPN.

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by Chris Burton on Jul 17, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s say the objectivity there is probably even less than the fans’ vote for the NHL All Stars Game.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what we keep telling ourselves.

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by Bald Pollack on Jul 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Komisarek earned it.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

As Canadien fans in 2008-2009 did their best imitation of Cincinnati Reds fans of the late 1950’s in baseball All-Star game voting. There was 1 or 2 years where Reds fans had stuffed the ballots in favor of their players and finally the Commissioner of baseball at the time disallowed two of the results and selected more “deserving” guys in their place and All Star game voting was then given to the players.

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by CapsFan75 on Jul 17, 2010 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said. +1.

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by winterion on Jul 18, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Half the people voting on ESPY’s don’t even know about the people they’re voting for – you have to vote in every category, even if you don’t care or know about it. It’s a popularity vote, nothing more.

by timmyv38 on Jul 17, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fan driven isn’t it—so yes. Fans are not by definition objective.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice work in the hinterlands today btw. Must’ve broken up the studying nicely.

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by bigonetimer on Jul 17, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah those were my study breaks but I should have just avoided the whole scene.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are the ESPY’s less meaningful than the regular NHL awards (Hart, Selke, etc.)?

Depends on who wins.

by PensAreYourDaddy on Jul 18, 2010 4:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

And that right there is all we need to know about the Pens fans.

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by gotsparkly on Jul 18, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

PAYD is cool with me and I’m pretty sure his head is on right. If all Pens fans were like him and Hooks the world would be a better place.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 18, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you’d never have replaced Huck.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jul 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was probably being snarky, yet accurately reflecting the attitude of many, many others.

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by gfcaps fan on Jul 18, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I took it as snark—the sneakiest kind.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 18, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was being snarky, but definitely reflects other Pens fans.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 18, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not limited to Pens fans. Do you suppose the average Atlanta Thrashers fan cares who wins the Hart? Let’s assume for this discussion that such people exist.

by PensAreYourDaddy on Jul 18, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not exactly sure what you mean by the second statement. I do think that ATL fans, or fans of any team that didn’t have a player in the running, would agree that the ESPY is by far the least prestigious. By far.

I do agree that the bias is not limited to Pens fans. Fans have a way of rationalizing what they want to believe and propping up their own guy. It just shocked my conscience that the author of a reputable SBN blog would go so far as to suggest that the ESPY’s were on even footing with the Hart in order to rationalize his biased position.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 18, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right, I’m not really discussing the original question. Were it not for posts such as this one and the one on Pensburgh, I might have gone on blissfully unaware that Sid had won something called an “ESPY”. The only way that award could be less meaningful is if they limited the voting to residents of Florida and South Carolina.

What I meant above is just that fans’ relative interest in the official NHL awards is seemingly tied very closely to whether or not they had a horse in the race.

by PensAreYourDaddy on Jul 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with that. I just like to think there is some basic level of objectivity that fans can all recognize regardless of partisanship.

The fact that to vote for one ESPY award requires voting for all makes that award even more meaningless than just having fans vote. Not only is it an internet vote, but you have thousands (millions? how many people vote on these things?) of people who just want to go vote for Kobe who have to vote on the NHL award so they pick the recognizable name. Ever since Crosby won without playing anywhere near a full season I think people should pretty much recognize the ESPY’s are worthless. I know you probably agree, just ranting on the ESPY’s, as if it was needed.

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by Rob Parker on Jul 18, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s July, man. We need something to rant about.

by PensAreYourDaddy on Jul 18, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually need to buckle down and focus on studying. Yesterday was just a couple study breaks and I got all worked up.

Lockout talk makes me want to go out and choke an old lady - Elliotte Friedman

by Rob Parker on Jul 18, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent lob back!

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jul 18, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s both absolutely correct and utterly wrong.

"I wake up in the middle night frustrated because we lost out in the first round and I want to see our players hoist the Stanley Cup." -Brooks Laich

by CapitalCentre on Jul 18, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miele was the most impressive to me, mostly because I didn’t expect anything out of him (nor had I heard of him before). I thought Mackan and Galiev had good games (though I think it’s weird that they’re playing Galiev on the W so much if they like him at C better), and it definitely looked like Kuz was trying to do too much by himself, because I think he thinks he’s the best player on the ice (which is probably true).

by DrinkingPartner on Jul 17, 2010 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

If anybody is interested I just posted by photos of warmups/Leonsis
http://capssnaps.blogspot.com/2010/07/development-camp-scrimmage-71710.html

Caps Snaps - Washington Capitals Photography

by cobracg on Jul 17, 2010 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

A new Holtbyism – Braden shot on his own net in the warmups with the rest of the team. He’s such a goof.

You perhaps knew me better as "Your Nation's Capital." Same great commentary, now with 100% more transparency!

by EmilyB on Jul 17, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen him do that before at Bears games. He told me that he used to shoot the puck off his basement’s wall back at himself so I guess he became a puck-handler/shooter!

Caps Snaps - Washington Capitals Photography

by cobracg on Jul 18, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

For those wanting a little more from today...

NBCWashington put up a 5 minute clip from today’s scrimmage, that includes the fights, goals and shootout.

"HISTORY DOESN’T MATTER!!! .... Who cares if it’s never been done? We aren’t those teams who failed before. We are in control of our own destiny, and we will make it happen our own way.." - A Gordon, June 2010

by bagace on Jul 17, 2010 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

link fail….damn!!

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by kurlNdrag on Jul 17, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

go feel shame!

#savethekittens!
Donation info for SAVES FOR KIDS 2010!! Make a difference.

by RedBirdie on Jul 17, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

is there a trick to google docs?

plagued by penguins fans at work

by kurlNdrag on Jul 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

plagued by penguins fans at work

by kurlNdrag on Jul 17, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

there shouldn’t be. what’s the url?

#savethekittens!
Donation info for SAVES FOR KIDS 2010!! Make a difference.

by RedBirdie on Jul 17, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

was using the wrong url….

plagued by penguins fans at work

by kurlNdrag on Jul 17, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miele and MacLeod continued their stand-out work today. They’ve played together all week and had really good chemistry. I’m excited to watch them in NCAA this season (Miami-Ohio and Northeastern, respectively) and think they would make excellent depth players for the Caps organization. They’re both free-agents.

#savethekittens!
Donation info for SAVES FOR KIDS 2010!! Make a difference.

by RedBirdie on Jul 17, 2010 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Sweet, I’ll have a reason to go see some Northeastern games this year.

by Capcrazy77 on Jul 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you’re in the Boston area, Patrick Wey of BC (defense) is a Caps draft choice as well.

#savethekittens!
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by RedBirdie on Jul 18, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s right, I forgot about him. It’s a bit harder to get to BC games, as they charge a lot and are hard to get. Northeastern is fun because the arena was built in the ‘20s, and it’s really cheap to go to a game. Shame on me, I should be going more, because D1 college hockey is pretty good, and I’m close to a lot of it.

by Capcrazy77 on Jul 18, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

as the daughter of an NU alum, I’m inordinately pleased to hear their games are more fun to go to! Maybe I should convince my dad we should make a trek this winter.

#savethekittens!
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by RedBirdie on Jul 18, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There ya go! They renovated the place last off season, and I wasn’t able to check it out, but I heard good things. The team has gotten much better too, but not quite at the level as BU/BC, so the stadium isn’t always full. That may sound bad, but there are no assigned seats for the tickets, so if you buy a lower bowl ticket and get there early enough, or with a smaller crowd, you can be right at the glass. Not to mention the student section provides quite a bit of entertainment in addition to the game itself. Considering the conference they’re in, they always play at least a few national champion contenders anyways, so it really is a win win.

by Capcrazy77 on Jul 18, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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