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As a Washington Capitals fan living in Sweden, I have enjoyed watching Marcus Johansson play in Färjestad in the SEL and as a captain for "Små Kronorna" in the WJC this past year. Mackan is a very talented hockey player and I don't doubt that he will play in the NHL in the near future but the thought never crossed my mind that he was ready to make the jump and play at that level right away. I must say that I've been a bit amazed with how he went from a promising prospect to the second line center savior and front runner in less than a month.
I'm going to try to give you some insight on how Marcus is regarded in Sweden. I will also look at how players that are drafted from positions 20-30 in the first round are doing in their first year in the NHL and how Swedish players have performed in their first year in the NHL historically. I've tried to be as fair as possible.
Okay, I lied. I'm going to start off by looking at parts of the totally unfair comparison between Marcus Johansson and Nicklas Bäckström. For example, though they both served as captain of their respective WJC teams, Nicklas was chosen to represent Sweden in the World Championship as the youngest Swedish player ever. Marcus on the other hand was not invited to the any of the camps leading up to the world championship and didn't make the squad. He hasn't yet played a game at the highest level for Tre Kronor.
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In his third (and final) season in the SEL, Bäckström played on a bad team that missed the playoffs. By comparison Marcus played on a better team that got bounced in the first round. In his third SEL season Nicklas went from being the fourth line center in the beginning of the season to playing on the top two lines at the end of the year. And he was arguably the team’s most important player. When he played good the team won and vice versa. Marcus was a good player for Färjestad in his last year but by no means was he the most important player. He finished with twenty points tied at 96th in points 44 points after the point leader Mats Zuccarello Aasen MODO now Rangers (the SEL is a 12 team league). In Bäckströms last season in Brynäs he finished with 40 points at place 22 ten points behind the points leader.
In the official Swedish hockey database, Marcus is listed as a vänsterforward – left wing. He played 42 games (but he is only in the game report in 40 of them hence the two missing games in the following stats). In 40 regular season games Marcus played center in 25 of them, LW in 14 and in one game he is listed as a RW. He was on the fourth line in 23 games, on the third line in nine games, on the second line in four games and on the first line in four games as well. In the games I have watched he was usually on the second or third line and he always got power play time, mostly on the second unit. He wasn't used much as a penalty killer but when he was given a chance in the WJC he was good at it.
He played center in all seven games in Färjestad's playoff run against Skellefteå. He was moved around from one line to another from game to game – the first line in one game, on the third line in two games, and on the fourth line in four games. It's hard to see a pattern but one reason for the moves is probably the many injuries the team suffered. Compared to the regular season, his playoff ice time increased from 14:05 per game to 14:26. He was used on the pp and he was trusted to be on the ice in important situations but it is worth noting that he didn't get any ice time in the dying minutes of games.
The 1990-91 age group that Marcus is a part of is considered to be one of the strongest Swedish generations ever, hence the seven Swedes chosen in the first round of the 2009 Entry Draft. So it's not as easy to get recognized as it would have been in a weaker year. It doesn’t help that he is the prototypical Swedish player – a good two-way player who takes a big defensive responsibility and has a decent shot (if only he used it more.) What makes him stand out is his skating and that he is a little bit more in your face then the average Swedish player.
Marcus never got any headlines when he was younger. Magnus Pääjärvi-Svensson got all the attention. Mackan has never been the "new" anyone like the "Bäckström is the new Forsberg" thing that started when he was basically a kid. When there is discussion about "the best young player" and when awards like rookie of the year are given out he isn't even part of the discussion. This year Marcus Krüger, Jacob Markström, Magnus Pääjarvi-Svensson and Mattias Tedenby were nominated and Markström won it.
Looking Back at Bäckis
The first time I saw Nicklas play he was about 16. I had heard that there was this young goofy looking kid playing for Brynäs and I wasn’t rooting for any of the teams playing so I decided to see if the kid was any good. He was easy to find on the ice because he was the only player in a cage and he was tiny. I remember thinking he was going to get crushed and his first shift kind of confirmed that suspicion he was put on his ass twice and after the second hit it looked like he wouldn't make it back to the bench. But he got back up and looked better in his next shift and delivered a nice pass. It was his third shift that sealed the deal for me. He got the puck deep in his own zone and brought it up ice, entered the offensive zone and just stopped and did that time freezing thing when he protects the puck so well that it looks like the opponent is not even trying to get it back. After what felt like forever he made a pass with just the right amount of sauce on it over a d-man’s stick and left a Brynäs player all alone with the goalie and somehow he managed to miss the goal completely. Not long after that Bäckis took a stupid retaliatory penalty and got benched for the rest of the game. But it was enough to get me hooked. Almost seven years later and watching Nicklas Bäckström play hockey is very high on my good-things-in-life list.
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I can't do shift by shift of the first time I watched Marcus Johansson play because I honestly don't remember it at all. I only understood later that he had played in a game I've seen.
The jump from the SEL to NHL is big for all players it's not just the smaller ice surface but the schedule is much more compressed with more games and less practice. Johansson played maybe 60-65 games last year including exhibition games so his game load will increase drastically. There is always a risk with rushing a prospect that isn't ready to play and Caps have been guilty of doing that in the past but I'm not overly concerned that they will make that mistake this time. In the past they have been forced to do it because the team was too weak but that's not the case this time. Having Fleishmann at 2C during the regular season doesn’t exactly fill my heart with joy but I can live with it.
Swedes in the NHL
212 Swedish born players have played in the NHL and when you look at that list its hard press (read: impossible) to find a player that makes the Marcus-Johansson-can-play-second-line-center-for-the-Caps scenario likely, especially if the criteria is that they have made the NHL directly without passing through the AHL and doing so just one year after they got drafted and without any games in Tre Kronor. It's of course difficult to compare players from different eras and some generations of players from different country's are stronger than others. For example Marcus’ 2009 draft class had seven Swedish players in the first round. That's something to take under consideration when you compare him to Nicklas Bäckström who was in a weaker 2006 draft class if you look at it from a Swedish perspective with only three players in the first round. The last Swedish player that got picked (Patrick Berglund at 25) is interesting because he is unique in that sense that he went directly from Allsvenskan (the second tier division) to St Louis Blues in NHL. That is practically unheard of (I think that Oliver Ekman-Larsson have a chance to repeat that this upcoming season and go from Leksand a Allsvenskan team to Phoenix Coyotes) and I'm surprised that Berglund didn't get more recognition for it. He put up 47 points in his first year and with that jump that's truly impressive.
If you look at Swedish players that make it as rookies they are all older then Marcus because they didn't make the jump to NHL that fast.
Mikael Renberg (too old) put up impressive numbers almost a point per game pace. At first I contributed that to playing on the Legion of Doom line but his rookie year was in 93-94 so it was too early for that he did get to play with Lindros that year and that ought to have helped him with his numbers.
If you disregard his age (he was 23 years old) the real stand out is Daniel Alfredsson; he was picked in the 6th round at 133rd and put up 61 points at became the rookie of the year in 1995. And talking about late draft picks Henrik Zetterberg was 22 in his first year.
If you look at young players that played in almost all games their first season and contributed with points they are all early first rounders; Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg, Henrik Sedin.
Bengt-Åke Gustafsson (4th round 155 overall) was just one year older then Marcus and did come over one year after he was drafted or a little bit earlier if you count his Oilers games. But he also played a WC for Sweden. Erik Karlsson was drafted at 15 and played a couple of AHL games but he definitely contributed this year for Ottawa.
So after looking at 212 players only one player – Patrik Berglund – managed to do what we want Marcus Johansson to do. It doesn't mean that it can't happen again but it's not a likely outcome.
Late First Round Picks in the NHL
Looking at the last nine years draft at the players picked between 20 and 30 in the first round with an extra eye at Marcus number 24:
2008 – At 24 New Jersey picked Mattias Tedenby who played for HV71 in the SEL last year and is trying to make the devils this year but will probably not make it. Michael Del Zotto ( 20), Viktor Tikhonov (28), John Carlson (27) and Tyler Ennis(26) have contributed to their teams so far. Caps picked Anton Gustafsson at spot 21.
2007 – At 24 Mikael Backlund; it took him one year to get to NHL and he passed through AHL. Max Pacioretty (22) contributed some one year after he was drafted by Montreal. David Perron (26) just went in a grabbed a spot for himself right away.
2006 – At 24 Dennis Persson a likely bust for Buffalo. Claude Giroux (22) needed two years and a stopover in AHL to make it. Nick Foligno (28) and Varlamov (23) both spent time in the AHL before contributing at the NHL level. We’ve already established that Patrik Berglund (25) is totally awesome.
2005 – At 24 T.J. Oshie is a great player but it took him four years to make it in NHL. Andrew Cogliano (25) it took him two years to establish himself. At 27 Caps took Joe Finley… ok moving on to next year.
2004 – At 24 Chris Chucko is a bust. Andrej Meszaros spot 23 got established one year after the draft and played all games. You can catch some good names in the end of the first round. In 04 Caps picked Green at 29 and Schultz at 27. Schultz needed three years and it took Green two seasons before he was a full time NHL player. Travis Zajac at spot 20 needed three years before he played in the NHL in 06-07. Wojtek Wolski at spot 21 played seven games in 05-06 but didn't become a regular NHL player until 06-07.
2003 – At 24 Mike Richards played his first NHL game two seasons later and became a regular from the get go. If you go outside of the 20-30 picks you find Eric Fehr at 18 and he played his first NHL game in 05-06 but as you know it took him until 08-09 to become a regular NHL player. 2003 is considered to be one of the greatest draft years ever. All players in the 20-30 range have played in NHL, including the famous Shawn Belle with 11 NHL games. Brent Burns and Ryan Kesler played the season after they were drafted but in limited roles. Corey Perry didn't play in the NHL until the 05-06 season.
2002 – Fellow Swede Alexander Steen got picked at 24. He's a well established NHL player but it took him until 05-06 to get there. If we again wonder a bit from the ranges Boyd Gordon was picked at 17 and played his first NHL game just one season later. Anton Babchuk and Sean Bergenheim did the same but in limited roles.
2001 – Lukas Krajicek was picked at 24 and he played the very next season but again in a very limited role. No player in that year’s draft got established right away and most of them needed until at least 05-06 and some even longer or not at all. At 30 LA Kings picked Dave Steckel, and he played his first game in 05-06 but wasn't a regular until 07-08.
2000 – At 24 Toronto choose Brad Boyes he played one game in 03-04 and been a NHL regular since the year after the 04-05 lock out. It took Alexander Frolov two years to play in the NHL the same for Anton Volchenkov. Caps picked Brian Sutherby at 26 and he played his first seven games in 01-02. The season after that he played in 72 games. Justin Williams jumped right in and played in 63 games in 00-01.
1999 – At 24 Lucas Cereda is a bust. Boston picked Nick Boynton at 21 he was originally drafted by Washington in the first round 9th overall in the 97 draft. He played right away but only in five games and it took him a couple of years to get established. Martin Havlat played his first game NHL game in 00-01 and been a NHL regular ever since. Spot 29 was in the second round back then and caps picked Michal Sivek he ended up playing 38 NHL games for Pittsburgh. Ahem.
Moving on:
The Washington Capitals as a franchise have drafted 389 players. If you look at those 389 picks how many of them contributed significantly to the team just one year after they got picked and in their first year in the NHL and without passing through AHL?
My list have six names on it Nicklas Bäckström, Alexander Ovechkin, Ryan Walter, Bob Carpenter, Gaetan Duchesne and Scott Stevens.
What does your list look like?
Ultimately, though, we are here to discuss Marcus Johansson. If you expect the kid to be the second line center on a Cup aspiring team what does he have to achieve to be a success? If you're measuring by points, second-line center Brendan Morrison had 42 points last year. How many would be enough to consider Johansson a success? Do you have a number in mind?
Remember that number and take a look at this list. I assume that no one is expecting him to pull a Teemu Selänne.
When Marcus signed his contract he said that if he didn't make the team out of camp he would use his European out clause. But maybe playing in Hershey wouldn't be such a bad idea with many players (centers) leaving he would get a lot of ice time and it would be possible to call him up when players get injured. The SEL starts before the regular Caps camp is finished and I don't see him getting a spot on Färjestad's roster next year. Färjestad is ranked as the team that made the most improvements during the off season and are the favorites to win next season.
What would be a successful year for Marcus Johansson?
I would consider it a success if he plays a few games in the NHL this year. If he makes the team out of camp (on his own merits) and contributes significantly it would be a huge success and if he becomes a bona fide second line center he deserves a parade with a lot of weagle-shaped confetti showering down.
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I know it’s hard to believe but this is actually the short version.
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by Malin A on Jul 15, 2010 12:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Doesn’t make it any less awesome. Great stuff.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 15, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This is outstanding work.
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by turnituptoeleven on Jul 15, 2010 12:40 PM EDT reply actions
Really fantastic stuff – an all-time great FanPost.
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Great write up.
I had assumed he was older with more professional experience based on some of the chatter I’d heard. This overview certainly puts things in perspective, and will help (me, at least) keep expectations more in line with where he’s at developmentally.
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by bilspacecadet on Jul 15, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank You!
first-person in-depth insight/analysis is always appreciated around here…. although the conclusion was a bit more bleak than I would prefer, I can respect the honesty.
SO you’re saying we should keep looking for a second line center….
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Excellent post, thanks for all the hard work. Sadly we will have to adjust our expectations for what Marcus can accomplish this season to be more realistic, and look for a 2C elsewhere.
I’m just a little confused by the first paragraph under the pic of Marcus in blue uniform. Third sentence is talking about Backstrom right? The way it’s written, the his and he seems to refer to Marcus. Maybe I have a reading comprehension issue but I was getting confused in that paragraph.
Do you mean this?
In his third SEL season he went from being the fourth line center in the beginning of the season to playing on the top two lines at the end of the year.
That’s about Bäckström. I’m sorry if it was unclear. I blame my crappy English.
by Malin A on Jul 15, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Again, this is so good.
I think there is a huge difference in comparing pre- and post-lockout performance. It will be easier to do post-lockout because of the rule changes. Mackan is an excellent skater, so that’s in his favor. Being a very smart hockey player is also going to help, but what I think is more important (regarding his jump to the NHL) is that he’s already built very solidly and he has already demonstrated a willingness to give and take physical contact. He’s not going to be an OFB favorite, but he hasn’t gotten by as a perimeter player.
It’s a long shot and I don’t really expect him to do it, but I do think he has a fighting chance.
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Spending time observing and being mentored by Nick Backstrom will help a lot. Though I doubt Nicky can really explain how he does what he does. But NB will help MJ settle down very quickly, as will having more skilled linemates.
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Nick will be helpful because he grew up in the same system and made the same transition just a couple years ago. He knows where Mackan’s head is as far as the responsibilities of playing C and the tension with the Caps’ system so he’ll be able to help him with that. I think the biggest issue with Mackan making the team is going to be mental, not physical. He’s going to have to be mentally prepared to be more aggressive with the puck and do everything quicker. I think the talent’s there, it’s just whether he can make that adjustment in time for the season.
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At this stage in their careers, I think the comparison’s between Nick and Mackan should be limited to they’re both being Swedish and centers. As we all know, Backstrom is a world-class talent. Johansson’s leagues away from that status. I agree completely with your assessment below that Mackan can stay only if the Caps get a legitimate NHL center like Belanger to handle the #2 duties, allowing Mackan to ease his way into the NHL. A team as good as the Caps, with legitimate Stanley Cup aspirations, should not be putting a star like Semin with a raw rookie like Johansson.
Speaking of that adjustment – when he was in the O-Zone during the scrimmage today, anytime the puck even had an odor of leaving possession of his wings (Bruess and Burt, Burt was brutal again), he was third man waaaaaay high. Like, hovering on the blueline high. He’s really, really defensively responsible, but I think his teammates could have used the outlet down low, or at least at the top of the circles.
He also got under Kuznetsov’s skin as the game went on, it was pretty interesting to watch that dynamic.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Whether or not Mackan succeeds at 2C is largely dependent on how well he works with Semin.
The Caps are fortunate that they can let Mackan struggle in the NHL and probably still end up making the playoffs.
Waiting 'til next year.
It helps when you have the tag team of Backstrom Ovechkin, with Semin pulling the second line.
I hope Macken gets a shot in the NHL, because we can afford to let him struggle but improve through 82 games. No one else has that talent for 2C on our team. Flash or Laich? Maybe if he really fails, but starting with them seems like it would be a mistake.
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One thing that isn’t often mentioned in the “Mackan for 2C” discussion is durability. It doesn’t really matter if he’s an NHL 2C in October. What matters is if he’s one in April and thereafter. Obviously he’s going to take some time to adjust to the game over here and the speed and size of NHLers. Can he do it in 40 or 50 or 80 games? Maybe, maybe not. But can he do it in 82 games and be ready for the NHL playoffs when he’s never played 60 hockey games in a season before? I have serious doubts about that.
Brendan Morrison was a legit 2C through December of last year. Come April, he was most certainly not. The NHL regular season is one hell of a grind for anyone, especially a young kid from across the pond.
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Which makes his “NHL or bust” statement all the more problematic. The best thing at this point, in my opinion, would be for him to spend a month or two in Hershey learning the system and the North American game, then come up to the Caps around mid-December. That wouldn’t reduce the number of games played, but he’d at least be under slightly less pressure in Hershey.
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Yeah, but the AHL is a League full of plumbers – he’d get some serious wear and tear on his body playing down there. I think that under any scenario, it’d be very hard for him to be a legit 2C for a Cup contender by the time the playoffs come ’round. Very hard.
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I agree that holding up for the whole year is a huge concern, and very unlikely. I also agree with you that the AHL is not preferable. I’d rather see the Caps bring back Belanger or a reasonable facsimile and let him clunk around the 2C for the first 1/2-2/3 of the season and let Mackan play 12 minutes on the third line with Fehr with no special teams. His legs will hold up better, he’ll learn the systems, and he won’t be under too much pressure to produce.
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14 minutes on the third line with Eric Fehr. :-)
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But that would steal 2 precious minutes from Knuble, who we need racing up and down the ice, getting cross-checked in front of the opposing net for 20+ minutes for each of the 82 regular season games.
Otherwise Knuble won’t be ready to handle it when his minutes are then upped to 24 per game in the playoffs.
hmm… and build chemistry with Fehr in the not-far-fetched scenario that they will both be 2nd line after next year… works for me
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Awesome work on this! Great info. Thanks.
by Heidi1 on Jul 15, 2010 3:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Great work. Now if we can get Tarik and Corey to read it maybe they won’t buy McPhee’s company line about Mackan and the #2C spot so easily. This post confirms what I’ve always believed- if the Caps break camp with Mackan as the #2C ( and God forbid, MP as the #3), McPhee should get a failing grade for the off-season.
Who sez TEB and Corey are buying it? They are just reporting what he says, as reporters are s’posed to do.
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Because I don’t hear them asking the tough questions that we’re all asking or stating the obvious when they’re on Washington Post Live where they’re not just reporters but also analysts. I’d love to see Tarik or Corey go out and ask some outside experts whether the idea of starting the season with Mackan as your #2C is really a good idea. I have a guess what the answer would be.
I think if they ask “the tough questions” they’ll just piss McPhee off.
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by red army line on Jul 15, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Great analysis, especially in comparison to Backstrom and in helping me understand better the Swedish system. It makes me appreciate Nicky even more. If I were good at visuals I’d bring up that photo from the announcent of their new contracts in which Nicky looks like a proud papa smiling as Mackan spoke to the reporters.
I haven’t heard or read either McPhee or BB say directly that they expect Mackan to fill that 2nd center hole, even though fans, including me, hope that he will be the magic bullet. What I recall reading is McPhee saying that he thought Mackan had a good chance of making the roster and that he would most likely be tried out centering the 3rd line. What I heard in McPhee-speak is that they want to get Mackan over here now and get him acclimated to the different style of play. I could easily imagine a scenario where McPhee sits down with and convinces him to spend some time in Hershey for his development.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
To echo sentiments above, outstanding work. Tack, Ice Warrior, for the best Fanpost I can recall reading.
To answer the question:
A successful year for Mackan, in my mind, would be anything that would make him ready to be an 82-game NHL contributor for the Caps in 2011-12. Whether that’s in DC or Hershey doesn’t matter all that much, and in some respects I think he’d be better served with the ice time in Hershey. For his time in DC, if he can produce at around a 0.35 points per game pace and hold up physically, I think that’s the most we can possibly expect.
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One thought that’s crossed my mind—what about using MP for the first half of the season and somehow keep MJ90 fresh, then see if he can graduate to 2C if MP fades a bit?
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It would be nice if Mackan would accept assignment to HER so we could swap them back and forth as necessary and let the two of them compete it out. I wouldn’t be opposed to keeping them both on the roster, but one of them would have to move to W, ideally. I don’t like them going 2C/3C.
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by red army line on Jul 17, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Phenomenal stuff. It makes me appreciate even more what Backstrom, Varlamov, and John Carlson (in a tougher position than even center) have been able to accomplish. It’s an important reminder that Alzner’s development is on schedule, not slow.
If Mackan doesn’t make the Caps and then December comes and the Caps’ 2C situation is a white hot mess, we all need to remember this. No matter how bad things look next winter for the NHL club, sending MJ back to Sweden or Hershey is not a bad decision. If Laich, Flash and MP can’t handle it, the solution is a trade, not rushing a rookie.
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I wish that Mackan would be receptive to playing in Hershey myself, if he can’t make the team straight out of camp. I feel it would be beneficial for him to have a little time to get used to the smaller rinks over here; etc. While the level of competition in Hershey is probably lower than it probably is in the top Swedish league, there’s the cultural adjustment thing.
I assume he would probably play most of the year in Washington anyhow but would benefit from some time at Hershey.
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Although he would begin to acclimate to the Capitals system and smaller rinks, the AHL is a relatively dangerous place for a player like Mackan. I feel like he would be way to vulnerable and risk injury amongst some of the lower tier guys in the AHL.
Moving Mackan into the 2C would be rushing him. Although he is a great player, and could quite possibly develop into an amazing 2C, as Ice Warrior eloquently stated above, it wouldn’t be during this next season.
Send him to the SEL for a year, see how he does. It is good competition, he can get bigger, it’ll work out
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Th AHL is more violent, but I think it’s an overblown concern. MP made it through the AHL, Flash made it, lots of small but skilled guys have gotten through the AHL without being mugged for their lunch money. I’m sure Mackan could do it as well. I don’t think Mackan should spend much time in the AHL because I don’t think it would be as good for his development. He needs to learn to play at NHL pace and get used to the North American game. He already has the skills to play. A short stint in the AHL could help, but really he just needs to jump into the NHL waters to get used to it.
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True. And i guess if MP made it, Mackan could certainly stay afloat.
The problem still remains that he most likely won’t fill the 2C position adequetely. He certainly could go to the AHL and then come up to the big squad for half a season; but, I have reservations that he wont really fit into the center spot and end up back in the AHL again.
I would like to see a Flash-Mackan-Fehr line though. . .
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by kingzman264 on Jul 17, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure people would take shots at him in the AHL, but you need to get your big boy pants on sometime. And with the roster the Bears have people would have to think twice about it, there’s one less ref to catch the payback too.
That said I think the biggest adjustment would be the “grind” of the season, and playing in Hershey doesn’t help at all.
Playing in Hershey would atleast get him ready for an extended season on smaller rinks.
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by kingzman264 on Jul 17, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a big difference in the game in the SEL and the North American game, so this “go back home to play if I do not reach the NHL” – clause is in my opinion no good. Most Swedish players need some time to adjust, unless they are exceptional talents, as Nicklas Backstrom. Marcus Jackson is really good but not an extreme talent, and perhaps would benefit from playing in Hershey, instead of going home to the SEL.
I have to agree with kingzman in this case, Hershey gives him a chance to adjust to the smaller rink and the North American game
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It’s always good to bring my our lofty expectations back down closer to reality.
by Moonage Daydream on Jul 15, 2010 8:27 PM EDT reply actions
I guess there’s a first time (or second) for everything right?
And – Mackan, Makkan, or both? Just curious.
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I had a swedish person tell me Mackan, but I saw Corey tweeted something about Makkan.
I will just continue referring to him as sammich.
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Markus – Mackan. Nickname thing.
Smörgåsen – Mackan. Slang, short of.
Mackan would be “THE Sandwich” in english. Sandwich would only be Macka. Anyhow, Mackan (Nicname) and Mackan (Slang) dont really have anything incommon more than the spelling and the pronouncing hehe. Noone in Sweden means “The Sandwich” when they call any Markus for Mackan.
That might be abit to much for ye, but hey.. if you wanna be correct :)
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And? It still means sammich, and that makes me giggle, so sammich he remains.
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I know xa to be a pretty nice guy. Ergo he isn’t trying to deny you your favorite nicknames he’s just trying to be nice and answer a question.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
by Malin A on Jul 16, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
To demand a correct nickname feels like a oxymoron so I want argue that.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
by Malin A on Jul 17, 2010 6:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
call him whatever you like lad, just tried to explain the background of the nickname your using.
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 18, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah for the people that thought that mean Lars was the only one; there are nine millions of us mou-ha-ha-ha-ha.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
So you have other mean Lars—good to know. Quiet does not mean meek.
I love your description of Nicky at 16. How many times have we seen him do this very maneuver.
did that time freezing thing when he protects the puck so well that it looks like the opponent is not even trying to get it back.
But I enjoyed this bit too. Mean Lars figuring out his edge at the age of 16. He’s gotten a lot better at the sneaky.
Not long after that Bäckis took a stupid retaliatory penalty and got benched for the rest of the game.
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Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
call him whatever you likeladgal, just tried to explain the background of the nickname your using.
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It´s Mackan, Makkan is more like how you would spell it if he were a Finn. Mackan as short for Marcus, but it can also mean sandwich…end of Swedish lesson. ;)
yes, if I recall things right he was abit chubby and they kinda said it looked like baby chubbyness. Well thats history now and that doesnt really matter now :)
Could try to find out more since I “know” (Friends Girlfreinds Cousins) a couple of guys who played with him in state/region teams.
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Absolutely incredible fanpost. Awesome job, Ice Warrior. Having you as our Swedish correspondent is one of the things that makes this blog great.
Following the theme of the post, I would be surprised if Mackan could immediately make the jump. His desire to play in Sweden instead of the AHL makes it more difficult. GMGM either has to let him go back to Sweden or basically commit to him playing in DC all season. I don’t see the latter happening (and I don’t really disagree) unless he really dominates at the real training camp.
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Or GMGM could pull a real dick move and play Mackan for 11 NHL games and then send him to the AHL for the rest of the season.
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I’d like it just to see what he can do in the NHL this year while not overwhelming/relying too much on him. I’m eager to see him in action and time in the AHL would also get him used to the smaller rink. But it would definitely be a dick move unless GMGM talked to him before hand and let him know what’s up. Maybe if Mackan knew he may not spend the whole year in DC but he’ll get significant time there he’d be more willing to stay.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jul 16, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Since the SEL starts before training camp ends, I think Mackan might pass on his opt-out clause because going to training camp means a legitimate chance at the NHL. The SEL teams are going to fill out their roster assuming he isn’t there, and he may not have room to go back. If GMGM says “look, we think you can make it, but we need you to prove it. Come to training camp and gun for a job, but if you miss out on making the team we’d still like you to go to the AHL.” I think Mackan might consent under those circumstances. It’s all about communication.
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Absolutely.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 16, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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I have to agree with every word, Mackan is a player with great talent and potential but the comparison between him and Bäckström is really unfair to him. Mackan as 2C? In a year or two, yes. For now, I would keep searching.
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by red army line on Jul 17, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Ice Warrior has the Swedish correspondent part covered, as you say.
Now, IW just needs to start up a blog. How about “How Swede it is”?
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by red army line on Jul 19, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
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Now I understand the choice of Rabies.. your just THAT nuts. Thanks for the post though, feel free to post it upon your own blog aswell. Long time no post there, and my vacation is kinda over for a couple of weeks :)
Would agree with tha statement that he needs more time, he didnt really impress that much this year in Elitserien. But Färjestad wasnt that good this year, until late when they signed Bartecko and Lindström recovered. Then again, they lost thoose players again in the playoffs due to injuries like this one.
Thanks for the post again.
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Awesome work, and a much needed reality check. It’ll be interesting to see how things shake out in training camp
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This seems to be a strong argument for bringing back Flash at a slightly higher price than we would like to see. Flash would be a great asset at the trade deadline to get a solid 2C back. If Mackan isn’t the answer (and he doesn’t appear he will be), having a proven goal scorer would be worth the extra dollars Flash might command after arbitration.
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Flash is only an asset if he produces and is on a reasonable deal. An overpaid Flash isn’t going to bring back much.
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Any chance the Mackan and MP talk as possible 2Cs is partly leverage to keep Flash’s demands in check?
Also, I’m not concerned about the 2C position until the playoffs. I think any of the choices will do fine providing they develop chemistry with Semin. But we do need to be stronger in the middle come post-season.
by Gin and Tonic on Jul 16, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it. I just don’t think Flash or his agent are going to be influenced by any of that. They are going to point to actual NHL production and go with that. This is going to an arbitrator, and Flash is going to get a windfall. My biggest hope is that it gets nasty and signals the beginning of the end for Flash here. I fully realize I’ve crossed the line into “complete dickhead” territory with regards to Flash, but I’m right on the edge of “addition by subtraction” with him, though I’d prefer to get a return.
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An overpaid Flash on the Caps is different than an overpaid Flash in other organizations. A 25-30 goal guy will get paid, but the reason that Flash is expendable is because the Caps have plenty of scoring wingers. A team like Nashville, that lacks scoring, would be willing to pay more for him.
While it might be a bitter pill to swallow for the first half of the season, paying for Flash so that he can be dealt might be a solid card for GMGM to have in his hand.
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Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
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Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
by Malin A on Jul 16, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Quick question: when does the SEL season regular season start, and when does it end? And when do the playoffs usually end?
Would it be possible to shuttle Johansson to the AHL after the SEL season is over?
It starts in September and the playoff ends in April.
Would it be possible to shuttle Johansson to the AHL after the SEL season is over?
I think so he is under contract so it should work.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
But I really believe that he should avoid playing in the SEL.
A bunch of player have stated that they gonna come back and play in Sweden if they don’t make their respective nhl team. This want happen until October and by then the teams will be set. I’m predicting a bunch of really cranky SEL-players because they don’t get to play because of some failed nhl wannabe took their spot on the roster.
Or an even more cranky failed nhl wannabe that isn’t quiet good enough to make it in nhl that’s coming home and realizes that he want make a team in Sweden because of full rosters.
And in the middle of this is management people that never had to deal with this before trying to make their team better while simultaneously trying to make everyone happy.
In short it’s gonna be a cluster fuck.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Which is why I hope GMGM says they will give Mackan an honest chance to make the team but that if he doesn’t make it they’d prefer for him to play in Hershey. I hope he’s willing to accept that trade off and refrain from exercising his European opt-out option.
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I hope so too. I hate to see him being stuck on a team with little to none ice time.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Well, Marcus has had a week now to meet Coach French and two players that just won the Calder Cup with the Bears – Braden and Cody. Plus Flemming and Mitchell and Delly (and Gus) have all gotten to work out with the team and practice on Giant Center ice. Maybe their experiences will convince him to give it a shot.
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High marks on terrific use of colloquial English.
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This Corey article about Mackan is filled with interesting stuff.
He’s also played through a minor hip injury and finished a shift despite taking a stick to the face.
Johansson was not a consensus first-round pick by the scouting agencies and draft preview magazines. The Class of 2009 was loaded with premium talent from Sweden, but the Capitals pegged Johansson at No. 24 – ahead of some of his other highly-ranked countrymen.
It is not like the Capitals were alone in their assessment – McPhee said Detroit GM Ken Holland told him later that evening that Johansson was going to be the Red Wings’ pick at No. 29 were he available.
"We just saw something in him that made us want to take him in the first round," McPhee said. "We thought he was better than some of the other players at that spot and better than some of those Swedes that were available. I’d like to think we were right, because he’s really played well since we drafted him and he looks NHL ready."
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Hard to argue if Ken Holland was going to take him. Assuming it’s true, that’s quite a vote of confidence.
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I know it’s totally irrational but I dislike Detroit a whole lot more since they “stole” Järnkrok.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
I don’t really have any passionate hatred of any of the Western Conference teams. Probably since I’m usually rooting for them to knock off one of our EC rivals during the regular season. That being said, I was unhappy with the Blue Jackets for the remainder of 2009, ever since Nov 1.
And I would probably dislike the Dallas Stars if they were even any good (given that their uniforms remind me of a certain football team in that same city.)
Overall, it’s harder to develop passionate hatreds against teams in the other conference. Or at least a long standing passionate hatred. (I’d be majorly annoyed with any team that beat the Caps in the SC finals for the following year but…..)
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I suspect that’ll end as soon as he takes the ice for them in two or three years
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 16, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
True
Well allmost anyway. I don´t dislike Detroit, nor do i like them and i wont start to after the “steal”. My wish before the draft was to in near future see “the new Bäckström” in Caps` with “the old one” as a mentor.
My wish before the draft was to in near future see "the new Bäckström" in Caps` with "the old one" as a mentor.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
No, not the late round gems aspect. They are just good at scouting Swedes so if they liked Mackan that means they saw something as well.
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It’s Håkan Andersson he is scary good at his job.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Yeah. I forget where I read it but there was an article about a Canadian professor that did a scouting review and he said DET wasn’t all that good at scouting. He said “you don’t have a good scouting department, you have a good scout.” But if they can keep pulling winners from Sweden it may not matter.
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He definitely fits the mold. I’m interested to see how NJD’s 09 Swede turns out. Josefson was more highly touted than Mackan but I don’t think he’s performed as well post-draft.
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I’ll admit, I know nothing about Josefson.
I’m kinda curious about how the Wings refill their talent. They’re still very good at spotting Swedish talent that other miss, but now that Sweden isn’t their personal hockey playground, I’m wondering how many Swedes, like Macken, get nabbed by other teams that in years past would have fallen to Detroit.
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My opinion is that Josefsson is more complete as a Center than Mackan, he also had a more important role in his SEL team. Between the two of them, I think Josefsson will be the first to make it in the NHL.
Thanks. I don’t really follow the Devils closely but I don’t hear as much talk about Josefson making it out of camp. Which guy makes the NHL first is going to be as much on the team philosophy/need as their individual skill. I’ve only seen Josefson at the WJC and a couple of the tune up games against Canadian University teams, but I wasn’t particularly impressed.
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also from Corey’s article.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Out of curiosity I listened to McPhee’s comments right after he drafted Mackan. It sounded as if he expected or hoped Mackan would be ready to make the jump after one more year in the SEL. This season McPhee actually sounds excited about Mackan’s season suggesting that Mackan in his view has moved faster than expected on his developmental curve.
When I went back to compare his statements about Nicky at the time of his draft, it seemed that he thought Nicky was ready for the jump immediately—but didn’t try to change Nicky’s mind when he decided to return for another developmental year at the SEL.
So maybe McPhee is really comfortable with fast tracking Swedish centers (if he thinks they’re ready) or maybe he’s pushing them because he really wants his home gown centers. Or perhaps a bit of both.
I like the description of Mackan’s game though—two-way defensive center who likes to play with the puck—just what the Caps need.
Rookie camp will be interesting. He has a huge opportunity, and I’m looking forward to how he handles it. He was so serious at this past camp. So it was nice to watch a video of him at the time of his draft smiling and talking about how thrilled he was to be drafted by the Caps.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 18, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep, I agree on McPhee’s comfort level with Mackan on the developmental curve; it’s no secret now that McPhee was super cereal about laying low during UFA (right?) to address the pivot issue I just want to keep in mind that we don’t need Mackan, should he make the team, to blow up offensively—in fact, if he can win draws, stay out da box, and be a pain in the ass defensively, I’m more than happy to bank the cash until March and see what the kid has.
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I doubt he wins draws as a rookie. If he’s above 45% I’ll be impressed.
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Agree with both of you. Let’s see how Mackan handles it. And McPhee for that matter.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean control his exposure and minutes. Being on the third line would help I would think. He exudes calm and quiet confidence. I wouldn’t want that confidence to be eroded.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 18, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
How would you feel about distributing the ~50 minutes of ES time per game among these lines?
16 Minutes — Ovechkin – Backstrom – Knuble
13 Minutes — Semin – Laich/Perreault – Fehr
12 Minutes (shutdown) — Chimera/Laich – Steckel/Gordon – Bradley
9 Minutes — Fleischmann – Mackan – Andrew Gordon
Boudreau often has a scoring line that gets less TOI than the grinders. On most teams, the 4th line is a terrible place to put an offensively gifted rookie center, but the Caps may be able to pull it off. Put Flash and A. Gordon on Mackan’s wings, and maybe it’s good experience for all of them.
(note — I’m really asking about my bottom line here. I’m not really intending to spark debate about the top three lines, which I really haven’t thought through very much)
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by Gould Old Days on Jul 16, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s gonna be one expensive 4th line player.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Both A Gordon and Mackan can play pretty much on any line (at least in ahl and the SEL) so it might work, I don’t think it will happen though. Mackan can actually play LW (unlike the awful Hanlon-Bäckström experiment) so having him get used to nhl by letting him play wing is pretty appealing to me.
Pft why play a small French guy when you have a Svensk viking.
Although center is a tougher position to play than wing, not all centers make good wingers. Nicky is an obvious example. So was Nylander. I recall the day that Boudreau put Nylander as the 1RW. I know it was to spark his offense. And, more importantly, neither Kozlov nor Semin were available that day due to injuries.
Anyway, glad Boudreau restored Nicky to center where he belonged.
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Ice warrior, slightly off topic question here. I’ve watched some Mackan’s interviews the past week and noticed how good his English is, as well as Nicky and yourself. Is it common in Sweden for people to study English in school?
From what I’ve heard, most Scandinavians are bilingual, so I guess the answer’s yes. But, yeah, IW would be the expert.
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As a Swede you study English from fourth to ninth grade mandatory, and most of us another couple of years optional.
indeed. And i think theyve changed that now to third grade. Heared it might be optional for the school to start even earlier.
“off topic” You commonly also choose between French and German (or Spanish) at seventh grade. My german lacks of skills though. Sehr gut, ist hier eine platze frei? Ich verstehe besser dan ich spreche.
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thanks for answering. That’s impressive that you learn two additional languages in school and at a younger age when they are easier to learn. In the US most students don’t study a foreign language until high school. Well maybe some schools do it younger, but my small town school in Minnesota only required 2 years in high school. I took 3 years of German so I kinda understand your statement. Then a lot of college require a semester or two, but my college actually considered advanced math (calculus) like a foreign language, so all I took in college was German choir for fun. Sadly most Americans only can speak English. Lucky for us the rest of the world learns English:)
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I don’t see what everyone’s worried about.
By comparison Marcus played on a better team that got bounced in the first round.
Mackan’s going to fit right in in Washington.
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