Wednesday Scrimmage Open Thread
For all of your thoughts and assorted whatnot from this afternoon's first scrimmage of Development Camp...
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2/1 that Finley gets a decent hit in and pwn3d in the same scrimmage.
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I just hope he doesn’t hurt an actual prospect.
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You mean like this?
"It's always good to have vikings."
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Who did Yonkman hurt? I just know Eakin and Mackan had concussions in their draft year. Both seem to have recovered but the last thing we need is some jackass trying to prove himself with a head shot. That could go for SDR as well.
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Not a prospect, but a vet. In retrospect, I suppose the unfortunate thing of it is that he didn’t finish him off.
And totally agree on headshots. Take comfort in the fact that all those guys are too fast and shifty for Big Joe to catch.
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I suppose the unfortunate thing of it is that he didn’t finish him off.
Also the fact that it was on the first go-round, not this one.
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Had he finished him off, there wouldn’t have been a second go-round… which was my point.
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Cold. But hard to disagree.
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Except that Chris Drury would still have three years left on his 6 year, $8 Million per year deal
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 14, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, I don’t see Finley catching Mackan or Eakin (and Eakin is on his team) but if Mackan does get himself caught in a vulnerable position and Finley takes advantage of him… well, light that cigarette and kiss our best 2C option goodbye.
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This is why, delightful OFB blog aside, I don’t understand having him at this camp anymore. They kicked the tires as an F and decided they were too flat and they really need to kick the tires again? I don’t get it.
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When you’re built like Finley you get time to develop. If he can develop NHL quality skills his presence on ice ALONE can be a game changer. Just ask Ovechkin about trying to move Chara or how much fun it is for Knuble to have Gil ride his butt all game.
Finley will get one more year after this to show significant improvement or it’s a wrap.
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I suppose. I remain skeptical, but I’d love for him to prove his doubters wrong.
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Oh, absolutely! The odds are against him. But with his skill, if he was 5 inches shorter and 40lbs of muscle lighter we wouldn’t be discussing his name this year. Or ever, for that matter.
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Chara isn’t particularly effective against Ovechkin – Alex is every bit as powerful as Zdeno and his center of mass is lower. Once he gets the shoulder in and starts driving, there’s not a whole lot Big Z can do.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 14, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Finley gets a boarding call after slamming Alexander and Miele down.
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Anyone actually at the scrimmage that can post updates?
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[crickets]
I’m hoping this is a good thread for people to post impressions afterwards.
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Please
I hope someone is there go caps
by wldthing20 on Jul 14, 2010 3:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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Just got a text from Hooks Orpik. Apparently SDR just plastered a guy with a beautiful hit. That guy is never going to stand out in drills but will probably never be invisible in game situations.
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I <3 him.
SDR, I mean. Not Hooks (though he’s a’ight in my book, too).
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As long as he didn’t damage the teammate, per the original discussion.
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It was a clean shoulder, kind of from the side almost in Matt Cooke fashion (obs not a blow to head)
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Finley just took out 2 guys at the same time behind the net. Was pretty good.
Still 0-0 no one standig out too much yet. Well Baby Gus is, but he’s literally falling all over the place. Either he needs a skate sharpening or he is pitiful.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Red team is getting pinned in their own zone almost every shift, I don’t think eakins’ been as far as his blueline.
White team not getting too many good chances, but graubner does look pretty good holding the fort down
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Which team is which? Eakin is on Red? So is Mackan on white?
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Yeah.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Interesting, I thought Red was supposed to be the better team.
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Yeah the ‘weaker’ team has had a lot more zone time, but not many scoring chances. As kind of expected with unfimiliar young players it’s been pretty disjointed play so far.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has Mackan stood out at all?
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Honestly no, and I’ve been watching. But he’s only had puck on his stick a very few times.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Red scores, low shot from point by Yadlowski may have been tipped, couldn’t tell.
Kuznetzov announced as goal scorer
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
BS goal by white team to make it 1-1, dude carried it behind the net, centered it ad somehow it took a lucky bounce off red defender and goes in. 72 in white announces as scorer, didn’t catch the name
End of the first, 1-1 kinda sloppy so far
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 3:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Numerical listing of prospects from the media guide. Can’t help with the freelancers.
29 Brett Flemming D
31 Philipp Grubauer G
45 Zach Miskovic D
48 Evgeny Kuznetsov C
49 Stanislav Galiev RW
50 Cody Eakin C
54 Greg Burke LW
59 Joe Finley D
65 Samuel Carrier D
66 Dustin Stevenson D
70 Braden Holtby G
72 Caleb Herbert C
75 Phil DeSimone C
76 Garrett Mitchell RW
77 Jake Hauswirth C
78 Patrick Wey D
80 Dan Dunn G
81 Dmitri Orlov D
84 Stefan Della Rovere LW
88 Trevor Bruess C
90 Marcus Johansson C
93 Dmitry Kugryshev RW
94 Anton Gustafsson C
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by gfcaps fan on Jul 14, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I haven’t heard anything about Carrier. How’s he been?
"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"
"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
Haven’t noticed him one way or the other, FWIW
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s running time right? How long are the intermissions?
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Is running time, intermission seemed to be just as long as it takes to zamboni ice.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
2nd is underways…Eakin collected a rebound in prime position in the slot but botched it. Not too much going on.
Herbert (the white goal scorer) just got a PS and pulled a sick move on red goalie (Holtby? I’m not sure it’s at other end). Anyways Herber could lift it, maybe little bit bad ice. No goal
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Patrick Wey
Word from the rink is Wey is physical and playing well…is that true?
A lot of guys are throwing weight around. Think NHL regular season game (with not as good hitters)
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mackan tried keeping puck in o zone, got shrugged off puck easily by Cullen. Just one little play, but if you didn’t know this guy was an NHL candidate coming in, you wouldn’t today.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Kuznetzov scores from right In front. Great centering pass by Cullen. Forfar in on assist too and nice play. They were up against Mackan line.
That kuznetsov sure is a finisher
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yay, but f. Sounds like Mackan isn’t looking great today…
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I’m not saying the goal was Mackans direct fault, just pointing out he was out there.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Anyone know the back story on Cullen?
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He played high-school hockey for Gonzaga here in DC, and was a standout player there. Not sure what he did after that.
"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"
"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
Holy Crap. I was attending Gonzaga back in the mid-90s when they had a thrown together club team. The most memorably moment of that era was one player breaking his leg because he lost his balance STANDING in the corner of the rink during drills.
What a long way Gonzaga hockey has come!
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I dot know but he is starting to stand out today in a good way. Not sure if he’s just having a good day or benefiting from Kunetzsov but Cullen is impressive out there right now.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kuznetsov line scores again, (he got first assist. 3-1 red
kuznetsov (iPhone keeps autocorrecting name, sorry) easily most impressive guy so far. 2 grapes and an apple.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:15 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
We need you to go get a profile pic, bud.
Look at this signature line. Notice the lack of spelling errors and self-whoring?
by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
He floated some, and the way he played I asked “What the hell’s he playing wing for?” more than once, but he wasn’t blatantly awful.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
I had a feeling that’s how he would look. We’ve been talking about getting Kuznutz out of the KHL, but if I had a choice I’d rather pluck Orlov and put him in HER. He really needs the coaching and the work on the angles in the small rink.
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Orlov was leading the rush some many times, it makes Green look downright defensively responsible.
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I was kinda wondering if they had switched him to forward, it was that bad.
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What are the options on Kuznetsov? Is there any chance he plays in DC or Hershey this year, or is it a given that he’ll be playing in Russia?
He won’t be in HER. He has a contract in the KHL that can be bought out, but I don’t think he’d do it for the AHL. I don’t really know though. He’s probably a year or two away still.
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Didn’t he state, like Kugryshev, that he was going to completely honor his KHL contract.
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I don’t know that he was ever that clear. He said he had a deal but everything I saw was relatively ambiguous. The stumbling block seems to be more likely whether the KHL team will allow the buyout.
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Is it fair to also state the Caps seem to support decisions to stay in the KHL and honor contracts? Seems like they want to maintain a very healthy relationship with Eastern European hockey for obvious reasons.
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Galiev has been invisible too…I’m starting to think Burt is the problem on that lone, he keeps misplaying the puck am I thinking that’s hurting Johansson. Would like to see coaches change them up a little.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Interesting observation. Burt seemed to look good in drills with his speed, but I thought it was odd that he was holding his own with much more highly touted players. That makes more sense, and I’m looking for anything to justify Mackan not being great.
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Just now: Mackan wins faceoff in o zone Burt weakly turns puck over along the wall…I’m noticing a trend.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d love to believe it’s just his off day.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes me feel better. How does Mackan’s skating look and has he at least been defensively responsible?
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We are looking to make every good thing shine :)
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course. He was the jewel of the week and I want him to sparkle!
/Sunshine!
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Haha indeed. And the fact Kuz has 2 years left is such a downer right now.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, I’m not worried. He won’t be ready this year and if he is next year they can buy out his contract.
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That would be my hope, just worry about him wasting the 2nd year over there when we could have him.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s awful quick for him to be ready. I think he’ll probably need the full 2 years. I’d rather they be in HER but I don’t think that’s an option.
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The “give them time” strategy has worked out well for us, don’t get me wrong. Would love to see someone make the jump quickly and just shock everyone. Was hoping it was going to be Mackan to solve that #2 center issue but admittedly a bit of a pipedream most likely.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We’ll see how it plays out
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He ought to look like a man among boys if he’s going to play for the big club next year. The fact that he’s not lighting it up is B-A-D news for that little scenario.
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If there’s a way to access the archives from when Backstrom played in his first development game at Kettler, you’d see we were saying almost the same thing about him. Invisible, not impressive, should have dominated, etc. By the third game, he was showing his stuff. Keep in mind, Johansson’s use to playing on a bigger ice surface. I bet by the third game, he’s a totally different player.
one of the awesome things about CI is the easy to access archives. Here’s archive from the week of the 2007 development camp.
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Some wiseacre poster was spot on there.
You guys will see me take over this year after Hanlon gets us off to a slow start. You guys know of any good restaurants?
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Of course, it had nothing to do with the topic that was being discussed, but it is CI after all.
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oh my, that’s just strange!
And why where you reading the comments?! I worry for your brain cells.
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Interestingly BB has a similar recollection of Backstrom as quoted at CI.
I also found this interesting about forechecking responsibilities. Hmm, adjustment time for Mackan.
“I just talked to him,” Coach Bruce Boudreau said. “We’re going to have to get [him] accustomed to the North American game because in the Swedish game, the centers don’t forecheck. So it’s hard to become an offensive player if you’re going and slam on the brakes to be the third guy high. He said he found it difficult.”
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I had that thought as well. He was very defensive in the WJC and that’s not a bad thing. It’s harder to teach a guy defense than offense. He has the skill, and now he has the defensive conscience to match. Not a bad deal. I’d still like to see him be more assertive against such weak competition.
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White has tied it 3-3 eary in third. First goal of period was a snipe by Lowery…Herbert made a nice pass on quick 2 on 1 to MacLeod, who walked in alone and backhanded it.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Galiev just split d right off a faceoff and raced in alone from neutral zone. Nice move but puck got broken up by, brace yourself, Joe finley.
Cullen just made a nice sweeping power move to net, nice stuff..Coul only lift puck as high as goalie’s chest though.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
So basically Finley was camped on the crease for the neutral zone face off?
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No he had to race back to save his ass. Luckily has a long stick (that’s what she said)
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:45 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fight fight fight!
Finley LEVELs Miskovic at the blueline, looks serious Miskovic still down 5 mins later.
Pisano stands up for white teammate, tey take buckets off and scrap. Finley wins a decision but Pisano held his own.
Miskovis just now getting off ice w two trainers help. Looks like not putting weight on left leg.
Maybe a clean hit, couldn’t quite tell, but definitely something he didn’t have to do in open ice in camp to a teammate
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:44 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
OFB wants a defenseman who will clear the crease.
Instead, we got a defenseman who clears roster spots for himself.
"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"
"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
by Wheeler on Jul 14, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Wheeler you make me laugh
That’s one way to make room for your future…disable the competition.
I’m glad I skimmed through this thread. Hilarious.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jul 15, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions
2/1 that Finley gets a decent hit in and pwn3d in the same scrimmage.
by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2010 3:13 PM EDT
I just hope he doesn’t hurt an actual prospect.
by Fehr and Balanced on Jul 14, 2010 3:17 PM EDT
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Why were both D up at the blueline?
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Players were kinda bunched in the neutral zone, I believe there was faceoff on the middle 10 secs before. puck bouncing around and found it’s way to Miskovic. Finley definitely stepped up (took a few strides) an dropped the hammer.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was pretty clean, Miskovic pulled the “jump out of the way.” I was sitting two rows up, right at the panel of glass where they hit.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
Oh ok. I was up a bunch of rows up right near where it happened, so I didn’t have a very good angle. And there were a bunch of players around when it happened too. Of course, we take instant replay foregranted so once it’s over it’s over.
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I was with WM and it was just a clean hit gone really wrong. Shame to see Miskovic hurt, he looked to be in some serious pain.
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Yeah, seeing him writhe while the fans were cheering for Finley vs Pisano blew hardcore.
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Gus gets PS, 4:20 to go in tie game. Slowly skates right down middle, tries to go 5 hole. Denied. Very unimaginative and underwhelming.
My phones about to die so this might be last update for me.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Corey sez
Dmitry Kuznetsov struggled to get off the ice during his last shift after going in a heap in the far corner.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
Very, very dark clouds.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s immediately back on the ice ad got a scoring chance.
Actually Kuz just Got a penalty shot and tried to deke to 5 hole. Mo dice
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 4:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I sense a trend with this 5 hole idea on PS’s.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Why always Boris?
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"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
by Wheeler on Jul 14, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
But Kuz – Evgeny, no? Dmity = Orlov?
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No wonder I was confused. :-)
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Alexander just scored goal of the game. Virtually broke Orlovs ankles walked right to the net and backhanded it top shelf. Beauty.
It’s 4-4 btw, red had scored on a PS.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 5:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
UGH
It’s already too late. The “Kuzy” nickname for Kuznetsov is already being bantered about on twitter.
Just horrible. We have two years, right, to come up with something better. As in anything. Let’s start with Fart Knocker and move up from there.
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Hey do you like Kuz?
Kuz?
Kuz-Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutz.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 14, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
kuznasty…if mr. nasty will allow it of course.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jul 14, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Kuz is just fine.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Evgeni “Better stop play” Kuznetsov
/ChrisBerman’d
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"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."
by Wheeler on Jul 14, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Evgeni “Tay” Kuznetzov
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jul 14, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want to force a nickname discussion, of course. I just fear the idea of 2012 being filled with the voice of Joe B screaming “COZY!!”
LOL @FandB
“Why do the Caps score so much?”
“Just Kuz.”
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Just peachy
TarikElBashir GM George McPhee wouldn’t say what’s wrong with Miskovic, but he did say he will miss the rest of camp. No word yet on surgery or not.
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just saying what everyone's thinking
Fuck you Finley. Blah
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Not everyone. I bet OFB is putting together a piece about how he’s bringing what the Caps have missed forever.
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That’s an awfully awkward euphemism for what OFB is actually doing right now, don’t you think?
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by Knee high to a duck on Jul 14, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Heh. By now I bet they are on the cigarette.
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by Rob Parker on Jul 14, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
could be “just” a sprain. Lots of times a guy will sprain his knee and be terrified to put any weight on it immediately. sucks, but much better than an actual tear.
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He reportedly walked out of camp with a neoprene sleeve, so dunno.
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fingers crossed. Remember, Ovie got hit early-ish last season and had to be helped off the ice and turned out to be a minor injury.
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I don’t ever want to see that image again. Yeesh.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
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I know right! Not like Gleason could have just stood and taken the hit, though. Trying to dodge a hit is playing with fire if you move too late.
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Yeah, why try to get out of the way when you should stand there and take it!
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…Because if you aren’t quick enough to get out of the way, you get hurt more than if you take it.
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Which is why the NHL suspended Gleason for that hit, right?
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the NHL was just trying to get some new people to win awards this season. all part of their plan, you see.
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Ovechkin got suspended because he got two game misconducts in either sequential or three games. It had nothing to do with the fact that Gleason’s a slow mother fucker. The hit wasn’t even necessarily dirty, and while Ovechkin’s knee was out, it wouldn’t have hit Gleason without the feeble dodge attempt. If Ovechkin hadn’t been ejected two games earlier, it’s 2 minutes for kneeing, and the stories over. And yeah, he was wreckless.
You missed my point. There’s a reason you learn how to take a hit. And hockey is played at two hundred beats a minute, and I’m not trying to excuse Ovechkin from being wreckless, or even borderline dirty at times, but all I said was that if you try and dodge a hit and you aren’t quick enough to get out of the way, you’re asking for trouble, especially at open ice.
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Sad picture. This must not happen again.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, I recall him grabbing his knee on the ice at the VC. I think it was the same game where he later elbowed someone in the face and then got suspended for 3 games.
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As a reminder, this incident occurred on November 30. Ovie’s knee was recovered enough for him to film that Verizon commercial on December 4.
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Yes, I do remember the rabid discussion (elsewhere of course) about how the 2 game suspension only gave Ovi time to heal his knee and how blatantly unfair that was (cue eye-roll). Loved the behind-the-scenes Verizon video.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
“Ovie Junior, what do you think about your, my, suspension?”
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"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Final thoughts:
—Kuznetsov was a beast. Very shifty, very skilled, easily the most impressive guy on the ice today. Impossible to say if he’s NHL ready now, given his competition level, but it’s clear to see he’ll be there one day. Probably soon too.
—Cullen impressed me too, did a lot of things right.
—When Finley dropped Miskovic you could instntly tell it was a big time collision that would at least shake Miskovic up. I actually thought he might have hit him high and gave him a head injury, but that wasn’t the case. As I said initially, it was at least unnecessary hit, especially for a summer camp.
—Della Rovere was physical, and stirring the pot too. Pisano drove to the goalie in the 3rd, knocked him over. A lot of people got in Pisano’s face (this was after the fight too) but SDR got right in the taller guy’s face after everyone else did and kept barking at him and the two exchanged words for a long time. That was pretty funny.
—Galiev and Kuznetsov (on opposite teams) were messing around with one another, each miming that they were about to drop the gloves and go as both teams filed off at the very end. Also funny to watch them be light-hearted and mess around; Galiev was even throwing some Semin-esque “punches” in the air.
—The FA invite kid Andy Miele caught my eye a couple of times too. He’s smallish but he could really wheel with the puck.
—That Herbert can fly too and he scored a goal and had an assist, showed some good touch too. Impressive day for him.
For the not so good….
—I think Burt definitely killed the Johansson/Galiev line. He was constantly turning over, misplaying or otherwise botching the puck almost every time he touched it. He can skate pretty good and maybe just had a bad day, but he looked like an anchor out there.
—Eakin didn’t really stand out and didn’t create anything; I was watching with high hopes that he might make some things happen, given his skill but it didn’t look like he created enough space to generate anything.
—Orlov looked really, really bad on Alexander’s game tying goal in the dying minutes of the game. He got deked to holy hell and even fell over, letting an unknown guy just walk it right in. That surprised me. He wasn’t bad all day long, but that certainly was a glaring mistake at the absolute wrong time.
—The goalies did fine I thought. They didn’t have to be too great but they were pretty solid. I didn’t really zone in at on them though, and it was tough to tell who was who. I did think Graubner played pretty well though.
Most the other guys didn’t jump out at me one way or the other. Overall the play was kinda of sloppy and disjointed — it is summer probably not the best of ice but there wasn’t too much flow or great scoring chances. Easy to tell that they’re not really used to playing with each other.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 19 recs
Damn, nice detail man.
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by Bald Pollack on Jul 14, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, it was nice to watch hockey again, and I fancy myself as a talent evaluator (though obviously I don’t know what the hell is going on). Can’t wait to go to the camp I actually want to go to on Saturday.
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It’s a little scary how much you know about our farm, considering I know nothing about any other team’s. And I mean that as a compliment.
by CapitalCentre on Jul 14, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure, but there are moderately knowledgeable Caps fans who live here and never bother to check out the prospects. I assume they’re all reading some other blog.
by CapitalCentre on Jul 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And to think that Hooks is not even a Caps fan but is still watching our rookie scrimmages.
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What can I say, the rink’s like 5 minutes away and I’m not going to be able to watch hockey on a sumer weekday any other way.
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The true definition of great fan. At least if you hate the Caps, you hate us for all the right reasons.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
As much as I had to listen to Akus over at Pensblog emailing me saying I’d look great in a Gonch #55 Pens jersey I won’t put anyone else through that :) I can respect good fans on their side without dangling a Caps jersey to convert them.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I just have to disagree on the Finley hit. The rest, total agreement, but he didn’t exactly line the guy up and stride with prejudice. He didn’t stride in, and he didn’t try and hit him hard – it was just an awkward collision. Even if he was going full throttle on the hit, if he makes it in the NHL or even the AHL, that’s how it’s going to be.
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As I said, I didn’t have the best angle on it, so I’l defer to you. It just felt to me like Finley had bad intentions on that play and he definitely stepped up and into the hit.
Plus the fact it’s your own team’s prospect camp in summer has to rub you the wrong way too. It wasn’t as if Miskovic was anywhere close to having a scoring chance, it was unnecessary.
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There’s risks every time you suit up. Necessary or not, you have to know how to take a hit, and while he could have let up, everyone else was playing at full speed, and it’d be bullshit to tell him not to (But in hindsight would have been smart).
I get what you’re saying, and yeah, I agree it blows, but it looked like it was just a shitty chain of events. Also, having heard Miskovic say it’s just a sprain probably changes how I feel about it some.
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I didn’t see it, but it’s hard to fault Finley too much if it would have been a clean hit. He knows why he’s here and he knows how he has to play if he’s going to make it. If Finley isn’t out here hitting and fighting he’s not going to be in the organization much longer. As long as he wasn’t taking advantage of Miskovic or throwing an outright dirty hit I can live with it. Hopefully Miskovic has time to heal and get in shape for Rookie Camp and Training Camp.
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WM and RB may be OK with it, and that’s fine, but the circumstances make it bad. Finley sought the hit out, stepped up and delievered it. Wasn’t like he let the play come to him and just did his job, he actually went out of his way to crush somebody.
I think that’s why it leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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We (WM, RB, and I) were right in front of the hit, front row or second row.
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That makes sense. You, of all people, know I hate it when D run out of position looking for a hit. I didn’t see it so I can’t comment definitively, I just think that Finley is in a spot where he needs to be playing an aggressive physical game. He’s not out there bullying a smaller player or destroying a guy after an icing call so it’s not as offensive as some of the other prospect camp friendly fire.
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I don’t mind if a guy goes out of his way to crush a guy if he doesn’t miss, and he’s not out for blood. Was it necessary? No. Effective? Yeah, and it would have been even if Miskovic hadn’t been hurt. The puck went pretty much straight to Orlov, I thought, and it was blown dead pretty quick, so dunno what would have happened.
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Probably, the way he played today. It was pretty upsetting, especially since I shared an elevator ride with him before the scrimmage.
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next time, you and Ovechwin shouldn’t let him off the elevator until he promises to at least attempt to play something that looks like defense.
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Dude, the guy is already a KHL risk. You send those two after him… it’s the last we’ll ever see.
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I remember Ovechwin said something (don’t remember exactly, something about coming on every floor or something) and I said “That’s what she said,” and he kind of hid a chuckle. Fucker may be gone already.
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If he can understand a that’s what she said joke why is Kuznutz explaining drills to him?
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to avoid getting yelled at? Maybe Galiev explained the “that’s what she said” joke to him?
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I don’t think he understood at all. He looked perplexed more than anything.
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I’ve thought more about it, and I’m kind of thinking I came off dickholish. Shocker, I know.
But more to the point, I’m thinking I agree with it’s full contact or it’s not, and I can agree that it’s a hit that probably doesn’t need to be made. But the reasons why are many, with the biggest being that the guy’s trying to make an NHL roster at some point (Hopefully, not this year).
Do you justify the fight afterwards? In a fight, you’re intentionally trying to punch someone and deal some damage. Pisano did it likely to follow what in his mind was a breach of hockey code. Finley answered the challenge, and fought back. But we know guys get hurt in fights all the time.
It might have been stupid, it might have been silly, but both Orlov and Finley seemed to be comfortable with the other skating off to try some offensive play or to make a hit – and Orlov wasn’t covering as well as he could. I’m more pissed off about Finley’s boarding penalty than I am the hit on Miskovic. I’m more upset about the injury, but the boarding penalty…dunno why he hit TWO guys from behind like that simultaneously (Or how).
Bottom line of this bantering rant? He did what he is supposed to do. And it’s a shame it hurt Miskovic, but that’s hockey. I mean, cause people don’t love a defenseman who can crush a guy at the blue line.
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The fight is justifiable because it was an even matchup and if anything the guy that was the aggressor was at a disadvantage. Both those guys know that a willingness/eagerness to fight is going to be their path forward, so I don’t mind them showing it.
I don’t know anything about the boarding PIM, what happened?
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To me, it just looked like a clusterfuck, where Finley went for a hit on Miele(I think?) and Alexander got in his way and he took both of them to the boards and they fell awkwardly. It was a weird pile up, and I didn’t see it too well, but when all three fell like that it kind of frustrated me that Finley was in the middle of it.
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I adore Della Rovere, he doesn’t seem to let anyone intimidate him. we need someone to mix it up on the ice.
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Nice piece of work Hooks, like brooks Orpik of Boston College fame…
But what did you think of Carrier, Stevenson, Flemming, Wey?
I know it is always tough to notice defensemen unless they shine or make mistakes but always interested in opinions about this group.
Carrier looked pretty damn good from my view. He was decent from what I saw in his own zone, and he had two or three nice outlet passes (including the one that sprung Galiev). I didn’t notice much of Stevenson or Flemming, but Wey’s skating looked decent to me at least once.
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To be honest I didn’t notice Carrier, but I believe he could have had his moments, I wasn’t really looking for him.
Wey had a couple good moments, shouldering off some people and using his size and skating well.
I thought Stevenson was a little heavy footed, but he never got exposed or burned so I was mildly impressed with his overall ability. Not a standout, but that’s not his style.
Flemming I noticed moved the puck pretty well a couple of times in his own zone, but it was the standard basic plays. He didn’t really get on my radar that much for good or bad reasons.
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Ahh, you see what I did there.
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by Hooks Orpik on Jul 14, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve never seen Wey skate but I’m positive his skating is at least average, probably above average. You don’t get to BC with bad skating.
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he’s a good skater. I haven’t really noticed him, but I have a hard time spotting the things that will make a good d-man. He’s not sticking out like Finley and Orlov and that’s a good thing.
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Yeah, I mean, it seems I’ve been doing nothing but defend Finley, but outside of a couple of poke checks, a couple of hits, and running down Galiev from behind on that breakaway, he really wasn’t superb or anything. Average at best, but it does look like he’s starting to use his size to his advantage. I haven’t seen enough that makes me think he’ll be anything more than a tall John Erskine who hates lawnmowers.
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Hooks:
Agree on your assessment of Kuznetsov, Cullen, and Orlov, and especially with your observations on the Burt/Johansson/Galiev line…absolutely no chemistry; out of sync the entire scrimmage and mostly due to Burt’s manos de piedra. I was pleasantly surprised with Herbert. He reminded me a bit of a Matty…smallish, but quick as hell and always buzzing about.
Disagree with you on Finley and a bit on Eakin. Either it’s a full contact scrimmage or not. The hit was definitely not dirty and was nothing out of the ordinary although the result wasn’t. Finley stepped up and caught him pretty good. In fact, both guys went flying in different directions to the ice. It’s unfortunate, but simply a product of the difference in weight between the players. By the way, Orlov did the same thing earlier in the game, but he obviously isn’t going to destroy anyone. Eakin did not impress, but I saw glimmers of good play. He obviously has a pretty good head for the game, although similar to Mackan, seemed to be lacking good chemistry with his linemates. He is pretty feisty too.
Thanks for the nice words..
Fair enough, maybe my feelings on Finley/Miskovic are wrong. I don’t think it would have been a penalty or a bad play in a regular season game, but I don’t think it’s good form to step into a guy when you’re in the same organization.
If the play came to Finley and he made that check, I think I’d be in your position — fair is fair, it’s a tough sport. But in July there’s no need to seek out a teammate for a big hit like that, IMO. I’m sure Finley wasn’t looking to injure him, but that’s how it worked out. No big deal in the grand scheme of things, just thought it didn’t have to happen.
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Oh, it was nothing like that hit. Finley took him to the boards, for one, and while you could argue he was moving up, he was also eliminating his man from going to the inside, and the guy ran out of space. Finley never left his side of the ice. Yeah, it was rough, but it wasn’t as blatant as that.
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I more meant the “it’s ok in the regular season, but in exhibition you need to tone it down” aspect. Not necessarily the specifics of the hit.
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Ah – I gotcha. Fair point.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 14, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice summation. You noticed a great deal. I kept most of my focus on just a few players.
I agree with your assessment that the Mackan/Galiev/Burt line wasn’t clicking, and think that you’re right that Burt was part of the problem. He was still fast but somehow his passes were off. To me Mackan looked frustrated—seemed to put himself in good position to receive a pass, but it either got broken up or wasn’t passed cleanly. Galiev looked uneven to me—good with the puck many times but I got the feeling that he was trying to find that balance between the contact/speed and moving the puck with only mixed success.
The Kunetsov line was sharp and very in sync. In general the red team had a more balanced team talent-wise. The white team was much more uneven in the talent department. Pisano looked like a slower Finley to me. I really don’t know much about either of them, but when they faced off I thought they were both trying out for the enforcer role—my least favorite aspect of the game. I was sitting in the same area but only saw the collision as it happened so i have no idea about intent vs accident. I’m glad it’s only a sprain.
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by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kudos to the Kettler staff who replaced all the glass panels that are directly in front of the bleachers. Nice clean glass makes a huge difference.
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Emily, I think i failed to introduce myself,. You were wearing the Ovie all-star jersey?
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Yep. And you were wearing the Stecks that should’ve been a Theo. ;-)
I also failed to introduce myself, so we’re square on that account. Hope I get to meet you sometime soon.
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I think I was sitting behind all of you. I remember admiring a signed Ovi all-star jersey with jealousy.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jul 14, 2010 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I would need to develop an illness which isn’t likely to happen this week at least. I was slacking on my planning had been taking a break from hockey during the World Cup.
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by Davethecapsfan on Jul 14, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Meaning 9 am at Kettler?
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by Big Boutros on Jul 14, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I found these youtube videos from today’s scrimmage:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doACJhMQXrM&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qChuBqX7FPc&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=929jS8yfQ0c&feature=channel
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Who was the D not covering Kuznutz on the middle clip? That was some downright awful coverage.
Whoever got the assist on that first goal made a real nice play. First guy on the forecheck forcing the squirrelly defensive zone play and then a nice turn and pass behind the net.
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Burke made that assist. He was quietly impressing. Can’t remember who 98 was.
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by Whiter Mage on Jul 14, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I was more irked at Mackan #90 just standing there and not trying to block that pass.
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