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  • George McPhee didn't win the inaugural General Manager of the Year Award. I blame Joe Corvo. [NHL]
  • Speaking of Corvo, neither he nor Scott Walker will return to the Caps next season. Good luck, Scottie. [CI]
  • Another take on the potential shared future of the Caps and Anton Volchenkov. [A Capital Offense]
  • And speaking of free agency, a quartet of Caps - and at least a few objects of fan desire - make the list of the summer's Top 50 Free Agents. [FanHouse]
  • A new series from Peerless kicks off. Sweet. [Peerless]
  • I'm not sure this passes for content, but hey, it's June. [OFB]
  • Some more (and closer-to-home) recognition for Ron Weber. [WaPo]
  • Plenty of coverage heading into the start of the Calder Cup Finals. [FanPost (with a ton of links), Patriot-News, LDN, RtR, Hershey Bears Hockey]
  • "I’m always trying to do things just a little bit like him because even a little bit of Nick Lidstrom makes a good player, I’d say." I heart Karl Alzner. [AHL.com]
  • More on Alzner. [Live In Red]

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Go Bears!

BTW, if we can’t get Volchenkov, there’s always Hamhuis. And Hamhuis will probably be cheaper.

Mon dieu! Il y a un hache dans ma tête!

by OvechKING on Jun 3, 2010 7:02 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Hamhuis is this year’s Rob Scuderi. Steady, solid, inconspicuous. And he could end up with Scuderi money ($3.6M). Taking the comparison a step further, Hamhuis is to Volchenkov as Scuderi was to…

…Komisarek?

Who is the better bargain?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Jun 3, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we’re talking about UFA defensemen, I’d rather have Kubina than Volchenkov or Hamhuis

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 7:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

any reason why? I thought Kubina was a more offensive defenseman… we already have enough of those

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

In a perfect world, I would love Volchenkov, because he’s an absolute warrior, but I don’t like that he (a) gets injured too much (hasn’t played more than 70 games since 2006), and (b) contributes next to nothing offensively, but that’s his game.

Kubina eats big minutes, is solid defensively, and adds offense to the blueline, which is DESPERATELY needed, because there’s nothing after Mike Green, and he isn’t injury plagued. Plus he’d be a lot cheaper than Volchenkov, as he’s 32 and coming off a JFJ contract.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Kubina has a Cup. Volchenkov at least has a couple of deep playoff runs. Hamhuis has little playoff experience.

If you’re looking for a greybeard, Hamhuis ain’t it.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Jun 3, 2010 7:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, but is one guy with a Cup really the difference maker? Hamhuis is a better all around player and still has a lot of NHL experience.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m solidly with F&B on this one. Hamhuis is the better option. He’ll be cheaper and brings a better balanced game.

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by Carl Putnam on Jun 3, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t matter who signed Kubina’s last contract. He’s still in the heart of his career and I don’t see why he’d take a pay cut after a great season. Certainly not a very big one. I don’t think he’ll be a lot cheaper than AV, maybe a little bit. Offensive production from the D costs a lot.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

But he’d still be cheaper. And no one is going to give him 5 a year with a no movement clause again.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, but the 5 yrs and the NMC aren’t the biggest problem with him. I don’t think we could afford him at anything close to the 5 million he’s made the last few years. I don’t think Hamhuis comes in anywhere close to 5 million. I don’t think the difference in cost between Hamhuis and Kubina is going to be all that big, and I’m not even convinced Hamhuis will be the one who is more expensive. I just can’t envision Kubina taking a pay cut, so that puts him out of our price range.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

But if the difference in cost between Hamhuis and Kubina really isn’t all that much, wouldn’t you rather have the guy that brings more to the table? Even if he does cost a million or so more?

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I a see “a million or so” being a pretty significant difference, especially with how tight we are going to be against the cap next season. Kubina has a bigger upside because of his offense, which we don’t really need.

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Offense from the blueline is a pretty definite need.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not convinced, especially with Karlznerson being up for the full season. Between Carlson’s known offensive skill and Alzner being able to make smart and quick breakout passes I think our D is already in a much better position to move the puck than last season.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sort of agree. After Green (76 pts) our next highest scoring D was Poti (24 pts). Thats a fairly significant drop-off, but our offense more than makes up for it (even if you hypothetically lose Flash’s goals). A defensive defenseman and true 2C are MUCH more pressing concerns than another offensive D

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not really. A million or so is a lot on a team that is trying to just fill gaps. I’m not even that convinced that Kubina does in fact bring more to the table. Especially not bringing more of what we actually need. I understand that Kubina has more offense than the rest of the D out there, and that theoretically he could take some of Green’s minutes. But if BB isn’t going to give anyone else Green’s minutes, then it’s moot. Green is going to get all those PP minutes as is. We need a guy that is more solid play in our own end.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seidenberg seems like the guy to go after to me. He won’t help the PK much, but he’ll at least be better than Tom Poti.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What about Michalek? Assuming PHX doesn’t resign him….. which is a big if

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

CP2Devil can probably help with this. I haven’t seen much of Michalek to really assess his game. He does block shots though and seems solid. Then again, PHX this year was great defensively.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think any offer we would be comfortable making they would match.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

F&B is right. Yotes would match anything reasonable. I’m a big fan of Z. Good solid stay at home guy. Has gotten stuck with overrated pairing mates his whole career. Jovo & Ballard should than their lucky stars Z had their back on more than 1 occasion.

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by Carl Putnam on Jun 3, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Two names I don’t really see anyone mention, that I think the Caps could afford, are Tallinder and Lydman. I think either of them would be a good addition.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone in Buffalo seems to fly under the radar.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe there’s a reason for that. When was the last time another team offered a Sabre a big contract and the player actually produced in line with the contract?

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luckily neither of those players play the style of game that lends itself to getting a huge contract. Lydman and Tallinder are 31 and 30 (respectively) and made south of a $3 Mil cap hit. I don’t see them getting huge raises as their games are pretty well known and neither outperformed their previous standards.

I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think you’re right. They are going to come in 3 or under most likely, and I think that fits our budget nicely.

And after watching the last two rounds, I’m a lot less anti-Sopel than I was before. He’s playing top 4 minutes for CHI and while he’s still not going to wow anyone, he’s been dependable and solid. That’s really all we need and we can’t pay too much to get it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the Flyers win the Cup, I submit they will claim the investment in Danny Briere will have been worth it (despite vastly underproducing fro the Flyers in the regular season for the last 3 years), since he would almost certainly be named the Conn Smythe winner.

THAT is a big if.

by S h a g g y on Jun 3, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pronger will win the Conn Smythe if PHI wins, and they’ll say that trade was worth it as well. They might already say that trade was worth it. Time will tell.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Would be worth it now, most definitely, but its going to kill them in a few years (which they probably don’t care about right now).

Briere, Timmonen and Richards (starting in 12) all have no movement clauses. Hartnell, and Gagne both have NTCs

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it will be tough. But if they win the Cup I think they will live with it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he’s way underrated on that FA list. Matt Cooke is more valuable than Dennis Seidenberg? I think not.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing when I read that. Shit, if he’s so low on their charts, we should be able to pick him up for pocket change.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Package deal for Sharp and Sopel. Sopel’s a bit of a risk but has been playing quite well in the playoffs.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

All depends on what goes the other way.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course, but Sopel won’t have much trade value with that contract, even with the better performance. I’m still hoping for the 2011 1st, Flash, mid-level prospect for Sharp, and I don’t know for Sopel — another mid-level prospect and mid-round pick?

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would do that, but you also have to ask “Can you see another GM offering more?” Unfortunately, yes I can.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Another GM could offer more, but can he offer more that will still fit under the Cap? That’s the best thing we have going in our favor, that Chicago is trying to downsize it’s salary to fit under the cap, so they have to take deal that might seem like lesser deals.

LET'S GO CAPS!!!

by Elliotte on Jun 3, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, thanks, on Sopel. We don’t need a marginally more successful John Erskine.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, a marginally more successful John Erskine improves your top 6 D.

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by Wheeler on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, unless we move Semin, we’re not going to be able to afford a quality 2C and a quality shut down D-Man. I’m in the camp of keep Semin (for this year), get the quality 2C and get whatever upgrade you can on D. Maybe you can do a little better for $2M on the open market but i’m not convinced.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you. I think it would be unwise for us to not consider Carlson’s development projection. He is most definitely going to be even better by the time the playoffs come around next year. We don’t need a D upgrade for Oct.-Feb. We can go into the season and let the rookies develop and show us what they have. I think we need a 4/5 type guy, not a 2/3.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

And Shultz and Alzner. Sans Poti and Green (hoping for continued improvement in the D end but not convinced), all of our young D SHOULD be a step or two above this year come next year’s playoffs.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hahaha. Sopel is so much better than that. I don’t think he’s awesome or anything, but he’s a top 4 D on a SCF team. The team that is probably going to win. That’s better than Erskine every day of the week.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nylander for Sopel and Byfuglien!

Do it, GMGM!

"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"

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by Wheeler on Jun 3, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, but what about the rest of the season? Not only that, but isn’t he about the same or more than ShaMo money?

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

The rest of the season means dick. He’s got experience, isn’t old as dirt, and has played well for CHI this playoffs (and has done alright for VAN in the past). Hopefully by the time the playoffs roll around hes a 5/6 D and in that case he’s a big upgrade. I’d take Sopel over Shamo. So yeah, he’s paid more, but he’s probably worth the difference (pending Shamo’s actual K numbers).

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I’ve just seen enough of Shamo. Even if Sopel turns out to be about the same performance wise, it’s a worth a shot at an upgrade.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

what about the rest of the season?

I think we’re all on the same page that

a) The Caps are one of the strongest teams in the league
b) the regular season means [Franchetti] (I know I got the spelling wrong)

Quite honestly if Briere wasn’t signed for another 3 or 4 years I’d be advocating for acquiring him somehow right now.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

BEARS BEARS BEARS WOOOOOOOOO

Heading up to Hershey for Game 1 tonight! Should be a good one.

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 7:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Go Bears! Turn Champ10ns into Champ11ns.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 3, 2010 7:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure this passes for content, but hey, it’s June. [OFB]

If it’s an excuse to look at Jen Sterger, then I’ll take it; however, the Daily Line is a pretty awful show.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Jun 3, 2010 7:46 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t watch that show. It’s so vapid and unfunny, but they seem to think they are hilarious.

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by WordsOnIce on Jun 3, 2010 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

If it’s an excuse to look at Jen Sterger

I’ll never understand that argument. The other day my friend said that he watched I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry because Jessica Biel is in it. If I want that, I have the internet. It seems like a waste to endure Adam Sandler or the Daily Line or the Hockey Show because someone’s tits play a starring role.

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by turnituptoeleven on Jun 3, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Its hard to argue with ACO. GMGM “There is some talk there”, when asked about Belanger’s future with the Caps, not terribly excited about that. I’d be completely ok with Green/Schultz, Poti/Carlson, Alzner/?, if it meant we had a bright and shiny, non-retread $4M 2C.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions  

But where does said shiny, non-retread 4M 2C come from? There’s no one available on the FA circuit outside of Plekanec, who’s going to clean up, and Marleau, both of whom will be unaffordable. Anything in a trade will probably require an arm and/or a leg.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the Rangers and Islanders can consummate a trade, then there are deals out there for a 2C if you knock on some doors.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can GMGM finally stop tormenting us and trade for Dubinsky, Callahan, and Staal? I’d give up MP, Green, Flash, and pick(s) (maybe they want Nyls back?) at least.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I personally don’t take that trade, and there’s no way that Staal is worth more than Green: the picks in the trade are definitely coming back this-a way.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Staal does well facing almost the toughest competition in the league and is still young, Dubinsky is a 2C, and I love Callahan.

Alright, re-reading, that is too much. I’d move Green and Flash, take off MP, and maybe throw in a low pick.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

They wouldn’t give up Staal for Green in a million years.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah they would. A) it’s a steal for them and B) it’s NY and they love stars.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

But they shoot themselves in the foot by trading away one of their best Dmen to improve on offense, and hurt their only strength.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you have to trade from a point of strength to address a weakness.

I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Which was why we were talking about trading Flash or Fehr last season. I also wouldn’t call the NYR D their only strength. That distinction goes to their goalie.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have a really deep prospect pool, and I think have plenty of nice defensemen in the system. Not so much forwards/offensive players, IIRC.

Plus Lundqvist in net makes sure your D is never all that bad.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

They do have a lot of young D prospects but I’m not sold on a lot of them.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

And they’d have Brian Leetch work with him every single freakin’ day to show him how to play good defense as well as be an excellent offensive player.

by RCheli on Jun 3, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I still don’t know if I take that trade. Carlson is still largely unproven and unless Dubinsky is happy to play 3C for us, he’s not going to stick once one of Mackan/MP/whomever is ready to take 2C, because I don’t see them staying at 3C.

I’d give up Flash for Callahan, straight, though :-).

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dubinsky has already played 1C, and I think at least with him we know we have a guy that can play 2C for the short term. Callahan is a similar two-way top-6 or top-9 winger that everyone here seems to love.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

1C on the NYR and 2C on the Caps are equivalent, and I expect more out of Mackan, frankly. I just don’t see him being happy in a situation like that.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. He’s played with Gaborik, and I think Semin is in the same boat, but of course against lesser competition. You also have the attraction of winning more in DC.

I just don’t see him being happy in a situation like that.

What makes you say that? He gets a similar amount of talent on his wings on one of the elite NHL squads and I didn’t notice any unhappiness on his part when he was slotted behind Gomez, for example.

Mackan is still a few years away, right?

Looks like 1 more season, $2 million cap hit.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Right, that’s still my point: he won’t have Semin more than a year or two before either Semin goes or he’s replaced by Mackan/MP, and he’s too young to sign to such a short contract. I don’t see why he’d stay any longer than his contract.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

RFA? I don’t know why he wouldn’t. He won’t have elite talent, but Laich/Fehr/Flash/MP (something like that) on his wings seems pretty decent. He might get top unit PP time and second or top unit PK time too.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Uh… plus a great chance to win for the foreseeable future.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. He’s played with Gaborik, and I think Semin is in the same boat, but of course against lesser competition. You also have the attraction of winning more in DC.

:P

I guess there’s always stuff we don’t know about, and maybe he likes NYC better than DC, but yeah, winning seems like a pretty good attraction since he hasn’t won a Cup yet.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

how much will lombardi cost? he made $1.8 this past year…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 3, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

28….entering his prime…probably around 4?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

so would he be considered a shiny non retread 4M 2C? havent seen him play much but reading some good stuff about him.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 3, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t see him leaving Phoenix

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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why not? What about PHX makes you think he’s totally stoked about staying? He isn’t from there and it’s not the only team he’s played for. I think he goes for the biggest deal he can get, which probably won’t be PHX.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think they’ll be pretty aggressive about keeping him. Just my thoughts on the matter.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. It’s hard to know what PHX is going to do. I don’t see them spending to the cap, but I don’t see them letting everyone go either. They can’t keep everyone and I just don’t think Lombardi is that high on their priority list.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

First off, he’s not worth the money he’s going to get. He’s got nice wheels, but he’s not a great set up guy. He works best with guys who like to have the puck on their own stick like a Doan or Upshall. It’s why he frustrated the Flames so much. They wanted him to be a passing center and that isn’t him.

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by Carl Putnam on Jun 3, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can think of a couple of Russian wings on the Caps who really like to carry the puck on their stick.

"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"

"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."

by Wheeler on Jun 3, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

And you know how that normally ends, especially in the postseason.

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by Carl Putnam on Jun 3, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

plus there is no certainty where the coyotes will be after this season. If you’re a player signing a multi year contract, that has to be cause for concern

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by Sombrero Guy on Jun 3, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely. Especially if you have a wife that isn’t accustomed to the Canadian plains.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

4 would be an insane raise. I don’t think our FA antenna’s are calibrated the same. You see Kubina taking a pay cut but Lombardi getting 4? I wouldn’t sign Lombardi at 4 but I think he gets 3.2-3.5.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think Kubina will take a pay cut as much as he won’t be offered 4 and 20 again. I can see him signing for 3 and 12 or 2 and 8.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he goes all the way down to 4 million.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weiss and Sharp are the two trade guys that stick out. I’m not sure how you define arm and/or leg but I don’t think either would cost something more than I’m willing to part with. I’d also throw Lombardi into that group of potential 2C, though he’s not really ideal.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

One of the kid defensemen and Fehr or first round picks would be be how I would define arm and/or leg.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t move the kid defensemen, as everyone knows, but I’d move a First round pick for a chance at Weiss or Sharp, without hesitation.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

So would I. No question.

It becomes a problem though, when it’s packaged together with other assets. That I wouldn’t do, or only if I could dump one of my bad contracts in the deal.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s really too bad the cap appears to be increasing by $2 million. Now CHI has a lot more room to maneuver.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

even with that, they’re still effed. They’ll need to move quality assets to free up at least $5mm — the big contracts they’d like to move are immovable.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well a first won’t do it straight up. I was talking the First as the jewel or the return. I would put in a First and a few complimentary pieces. Guys like Flash, Bouchard, Orlov, later picks, etc. Just not Carlznerson/Varlivirth. The tough call is what to do if they ask for Mackan/MP/Eakin. Mackan is the one I’d have the hardest time parting with.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

You just love your hybrid names.

I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 3, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Have to say I’d give up Mackan and a first for Sharp if that was the deal.

More norrissey, less morrissey

by bigonetimer on Jun 3, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I might too. I’d definitely have to think about it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also from Alzner's AHL chat
At one of the houses, some of the guys live above an ice cream store, King Cone. I hang out with those guys a lot – that’s Patrick Wellar, John Carlson, Braden Holtby, and Sean Collins. It’s us and also Zach Miskovic, I hang out with them quite a bit.

That’s quite a group of young men to hang out and eat ice cream with.

John Carlson - Glory follows him.

by boutros23 on Jun 3, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Mike Green wants to know why he’s never invited to hang out with them.

but, really, how minor league small town is that?

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by RedBirdie on Jun 3, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s the website for King Kone. It’s one mile north of Giant Center. I wonder how much icecream those guys eat?

King Kone

by vtcapsfan99 on Jun 3, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

When they get to Austin, look out.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

They have a drive thru?

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Jun 3, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

They missed the boat by not naming it King Kone Kreamery.

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully they aren’t into kidnapping for that matter.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on Jun 3, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr Hartnell…

1982 called. It wants its androgyny back.

by Brainumbc on Jun 3, 2010 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Nah, man, Japan 2010 called and left a message on the machine saying they’d pay him eleventy billion dollars to keep rocking it!

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s for sure.

I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 3, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

and troy polamalu is on hold…says you’re not going to steal his shampoo endorsement money no matter how hard you try.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 3, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s going to have to defend his contract against Dog the bounty hunter as well

by Brainumbc on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not wise to upset a Wookie.

I believe in JC.

by patred48 on Jun 3, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially one that has access to a crimping iron

by Brainumbc on Jun 3, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would tell them this place definitely has to be on your short list because its tremendous how they treat you and it’s a first class organization. But the fans and everybody, what a team!

I am going to miss Walker. From the moment he reveled in his Metro ride—very “bright lights, big city”—he became my favorite pickup.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract---"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 9:53 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. I really wish they had given Scotty Walz more of a chance here

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

My biggest regret with him is that he only dressed for 1 playoff game. You go and pick up a guy like that specifically for the playoffs and then don’t give him a sweater?

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s BB for you.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agree. I wish he had more of a chance. Woulda, shoulda, coulda moment for BB.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract---"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bu..bu…but…he only scores goals in Game 7s, in overtime!!!

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a little sad now that I know I was there to see his first – and only – two goals with the Capitals. Sayonara, Scott.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gettin’ pretty psyched for today’s Wrap…

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by J.P. on Jun 3, 2010 10:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Schultz?

I never travel far....without a little Big Star...

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 3, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, shit, I can’t alphabetize.

by DrinkingPartner on Jun 3, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Psst… click the roster button at the top of the page.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cheaper that way.

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t feel bad – I had scheduled Semin for today until Becca asked me why Semin was before Schultz.

Me iz smrt.

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by J.P. on Jun 3, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because you couldn’t wait to start ripping on Semin.

Key stat: He sucks.

Interesting stat: He sucks.

The good: Occasionally he doesn’t suck.

The bad: He sucks.

The discussion: Why does he suck so much?

Sorry for spoiling it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Semin in a SC final

Watching that game last night it was really hard to imagine Semin raising his intensity and compete level to anything approaching where it was at last night or in this series. I think he would just melt away.

by Direction 87 on Jun 3, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have seen Semin raise his game at times, such as when Ovie’s out. But who knows what Semin shows up on any given day. I had high hopes for him this year because he ended the regular season playing well, but we all know what happened to him in the playoffs.

by vtcapsfan99 on Jun 3, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

2008 and 2009 first-rounds might be worth your time. He was amazing. As long as he’s able to handle the puck as he normally can (read: no significant hand or arm injuries) he seems competitive enough, especially with a good center, which makes me wonder: in his two good playoff series, he mainly played with Backstrom, IIRC. If that’s really what he needs to succeed then yikes.

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by red army line on Jun 3, 2010 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if he needs Backstrom to be reliable then he’s gone. We can’t afford a 2C like Baxter. And he was healthy this year and still didn’t do anything.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless we go back to the SOB line—then they can both share Nicky.

by difer on Jun 3, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

And we simultaneously give up our main secondary scoring threat; indeed, the biggest justification for keeping Semin.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree—just saying it’s an option (which they certainly used throughout the season).

by difer on Jun 3, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

This from last year’s Rink Wrap on Semin:

I think one thing many of these comments highlights is the absolute need for a legitimate complimentary center for Semin. Not Circles, not Feds, but a real, creative pivot who can take some of the pressure off 28. And if that center is already on the roster and has more often skated shifts with the other Alex, maybe it’s the latter who needs or more easily could adapt to another center.
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by J.P. on Jun 17, 2009 8:36 AM EDT

I keep coming to these threads late, but…
I believe JP is exactly right that Backstrom needs to be Semin’s center. But I think he should be Ovechkin’s center as well. I think this team would be at its best with Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin, if they would learn to play together well and quit the cute. And I think it’s more than possible. That’s my prediction for next year. Ovechkin-Backstrom-Semin becomes the top line we all thought it could be.
by Gould Old Days on Jun 19, 2009 4:00 PM EDT

I’m sure at this point Backs is going to stay with Ovi, but I thought Semin and Backs played quite well together when Ovi was out and, despite charges of being “too cute” at times, had some dynamite passing-scoring on PP.

I do like to see SOB together at times, but I also agree it’s probably not best all the time because of wanting to have the second scoring threat, as long as we have him. I just think it would/could have been much more effective all season and post if we had had a higher quality, consistent 2C. I hope we get a chance to find out what difference it would make this season.

by Seminrocks on Jun 3, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Semin was actually with Backstrom and Ovi for most of October this past year. Not to mention for most of December as well.

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by CapsFan75 on Jun 3, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True but Knuble was injured.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract---"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Knuble and Semin were actually out about the same time together starting in mid Nov. Semin missed 7 games starting Nov.17 & returned Dec. 3. Knuble missed 12 games starting Nov. 13, returning Dec. 11.

Remember, Ovi was out starting Nov. 4 game and returned for the Nov. 17 game, which started Semin being out. He evidently had been playing with that injured wrist, but was waiting for Ovi to return.

In Oct. BB seemed to experiment some with the lines, sometimes having SOB and 9-21-22 together, then other times switching Semin & Knubs. Semin also was out 2 games in Oct. with the flu.

by Seminrocks on Jun 3, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Memory is a tricky thing. Seemed like Ovi and Knuble spent a lot of time out in the fall but I forgot all about Semin’s balky wrist. It’s coming back to me now—lots of line shuffling and Hershey call ups going on back then.

I do recall that the 8-19-22 line really took hold around the time that the streak and Ovi’s captaincy began, so early January then.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

When #22 went to BB and put his foot down: “No more line shuffling.” 14 wins later…

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may be pointless, but I’m gonna say it anyway: if he had not averaged more than 6 SOG/G, then I would say he did nothing. No, he was not successful (neither were too many others when it was needed), but he was working it. Since the end of the Caps’ run, there have been several post mortems by more objective folks than us here and my reading of those in toto is that the team’s shot quality and chances were actually pretty good. They did run into a hot goalie, as did the Pens. It is a large part of the equation for failure.

Are there things Semin could have done better? Yes, as could every single player on the team. You may not like his game, but as he said, he played the only way he knows how. He was in a scoring slump, but he kept trying. What would you have said if he had averaged only 2.4 shots per game, as Crosby did against the Habs?

The amazing thing to me is the numebr of people who expected Semin to suddenly become some net-crashing forward, when Crosby, who is one, could not even play that way successfully against the Habs himself. Semin did have some excellent shots, the rebounds of which just sat there in front of the goalie with no one either around or turned the wrong way to get them. One specific time he had to rush up to get his own rebound because Belanger was facing the wrong direction right in front of the net, as if he did not even know the puck had been shot.

The criticism of how he played also was all over the map. Some people said he should pass more, others he should shoot more, then he should get rebounds, then he should make better shot selection, then he should just get it to the net so someone can get the rebounds. He kept trying to score; he failed to score. Do you think anyone was more frustrated with the lack of success than he was?

And for those who think he does not care (I still never understand where that notion comes from), did you see him on the bench when the game was over? Did you see the look on his face? He was devastated. BB said he and the other 3 YG were inconsolable. Later he told Ivan Carter all 4 of them were crying.

As for the other comment above, watching last night, I wondered how the whole team would fare.

by Seminrocks on Jun 3, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You may not like his game, but as he said, he played the only way he knows how.

And that’s a big concern of mine. He needs to learn to adapt. I disagree that he kept trying. He checked out after he hit the pipe in game 7. He took the penalty that turned game 6 around. He wasn’t “Good Sasha just without the goals.” He had shots, but A LOT of them were low quality. He wasn’t a 60 minute force, and he still had a lot of the behavioral traits that had many of us concerned in the regular season.

I thought Crosby wasn’t good enough against the Habs and deserves more criticism than he’s gotten.

What this year proved to me about Semin was that we cannot just count on him to “turn it on” when it matters. He was finally healthy for the playoffs and he still didn’t give us as much as we needed. All year we talked about whether or not Semin would stop being inconsistent and become an impact player during the playoffs. He didn’t. I’m not going to trust that Semin is going to have his game when it matters anymore. He might, but it’s not a conscious switch.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dammit, F&B, that advanced copy was embargoed ’til 11 tomorrow. Thanks for ruining it for everyone.

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by J.P. on Jun 3, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

little premature with your semin, eh?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 3, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

IT HAPPENS TO EVERYONE!!

(right? right??)

#NeedsMoreBradley

by Addison H. on Jun 3, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: FutureCAP on Alzner

Who criticized him for that headgear? That thing is sweet, and is even more special because of how he got it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

link?

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by RedBirdie on Jun 3, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do believe F&B is referring to this

So where’d he get it?

"Ovechkin, what is good in life?"

"To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their captain."

by Wheeler on Jun 3, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love that! someone criticized him for it?

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by RedBirdie on Jun 3, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the hat I was talking about. This is the link. He got the hat in the most recent Canada v. Russia Junior Super Series. He was named the MVP of game 1 (in Russia) and the home city/rink gave him this hat along with the MVP honor. I forget what animal it is but I want to say Mink.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone watch the video of Bettman vs MacLean on Hockey Night yet? Puck Daddy has a great breakdown, although I actually think Bettman won this one by more than a split decision. I thought MacLean came off looking like a tool an awful lot, and that’s really saying something.

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed. Bettman MAY have been full of shit on many of the points he made, but he came across as knowing what he was talking about.

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by Sombrero Guy on Jun 3, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hope Corvo and Walker (especially Walker) find something to do. Good luck, guys.

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by Jake Shapiro on Jun 3, 2010 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel shades of the Jagr trade when I think GMGM pretty much gave away Brian Pothier, Oskar Osala and second-round pick in 2011 to Hurricanes for this guy.

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by hotdog88gt on Jun 3, 2010 11:45 AM EDT reply actions  

A bit overboard on that one, am I.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

by hotdog88gt on Jun 3, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just a bad trade – period.

If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

by hotdog88gt on Jun 3, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Meh. It was worth the gamble, they don’t always work out. We didn’t give away anything too valuable and if Corvo had played like he gave a shit we may have loved the trade.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know if my interpretation is correct, but I got the impression that Corvo was playing worried about “getting hurt like that again,” especially around the boards.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract---"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

It may have been, but that’s a freak accident that isn’t likely to happen again. It’s a shame if that is the case.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

The problem is that I hadn’t watched him much before so I had nothing to compare my observations to, yet he did seem at times to prefer to avoid the hit or scrums. But of course we all known how accurate perceptions can be—so very quantifiable.

"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract---"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."

by capsyoungguns on Jun 3, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know a whole lot beyond the common reputation of him before. Alan Ryder made him look a whole lot more attractive, but he definitely didn’t live up to that. If he was afraid of getting hurt, that sucks. If that’s his normal play, that’s pretty terrible.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

He swapped one expiring contract for another and gave up a (probable) 2011 2nd in addition to a prospect who doesn’t skate very well, for whatever other attributes he possesses. I’d pull the trigger on that again.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 3, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty surprised, but I hope he gets in and makes the most of it.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is great news. I really like Cody.

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by Carl Putnam on Jun 3, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

“We’ll see your 20-year old NHL rookie phenom and raise you a 19-year old junior eligible who couldn’t even lead his team out of the first round of the WHL playoffs.”

But yeah, I’m thrilled.

One request, Cody. Please play yourself into Game Two so I can see you on the ice in person.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

YNC, Cody has to go back to juniors next year, right (assuming he doesn’t make the Caps)? Would love to see him in HER next year but thinking it’s not possible.

by Reckless on Jun 3, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the agreement the Swedes have with the NHL. I’m pretty sure it doesn’t apply to Canadian major juniors, especially since the radio and print beat reporters who cover Cody are basically terrified he’s not coming back.

If I had my druthers, I’d ruther Cody return to Swift Current for another year of junior. He’s in line to become Captain and he’s just barely 19. He should also get an invite to the world juniors Team Canada selection camp in August. He was the last forward cut last year but should easily make the team this year.

BUT – he can still do the WJC if he’s in Hershey, as RAHJC did last year.

And if he does real well in the Finals, the Caps organ-i-zation may feel his development may be better a little closer to DC.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody has to either go to the WHL or NHL. He cannot play in the AHL. Players drafted out of the CHL cannot play in the AHL until they finish their normal CHL eligibility.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Curse that rule. Killing Ryan Ellis this year.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 3, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Killing him. Another chance to be a stud in the WC and a Memorial Cup. Woe is Ryan Ellis. What would he have done otherwise? Spend the year in Milwaukee. Poor guy. I feel marginally worse for Petrangelo, but even him I don’t feel for.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

C’mon. You really think Ellis has anything new to learn against CHL competition? I don’t. I’m not saying its pushing him backwards, but it is stagnant. I’d rather him play against Chris Bourque or Mathieu Perrault types than an 18 year old kid who might never make the NHL.

No way that the AHL doesn’t do more for his growth than playing for Windsor.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 3, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe. Playing against adults would probably help a little, but don’t underestimate how important it is for him to play huge minutes, be The Guy, and play in huge games. Maybe playing in the AHL would have allowed him to do the John Carlson and make it to the NHL in less than a year, but I doubt it in NSH (you already had a rookie PP specialist and some studs above him). That’s my point with Petrangelo; he probably could have made STL by the end of the year if he started in the AHL.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll grant you he wouldn’t make the team this year unless there were catastrophic injuries, but I would still prefer he do like Jon Blum and play a year in the A. Blum is rounding out his game very nicely and will be much readier to take on huge NHL forwards this coming year. Thats what I’d like to see for Ellis, but obviously it isn’t happening. I’m guessing he’ll be on the opening day roster in 11-12.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 3, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he can play only in DC or has to go back to juniors. Pretty sure that kids drafted out of major junior can’t play in the AHL until they’re 20. Carlson came from the USHL, so that didn’t apply to him.

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want Semin @ $7M. Spezza @ $7M?

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by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bit of a joke; I was more acknowledging his apparent availability.

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by Chris Burton on Jun 3, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

It is really news that teams would love to unload their high dollar underperforming players?

I mean… duh…

McKenzie doesn’t need to tell me that the Rangers would like to unload Wade Redden.

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by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spezza at least produces more than Redden.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true, there are different variances of lack of production, however, it still is lack of production coming from a salary cap drain.

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by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but the degree is different. Redden is a bigger waste. There are guys that are overpaid but still at least produce some for their teams and so are not a total waste (B. Richards, Gomez, Briere, etc.).

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gomez plays some really tough minutes and still produces some offense. He’s probably still not worth his contract, but I’ll bet he’s worth more than the basic counting stats show.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 3, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I hate Gomez so fucking much, but have to give credit where it’s due, and he’s still a quality hockey player.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Spezza at 2-3 million, maybe. Best of all, Don Cherry loves him.

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by hotdog88gt on Jun 3, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At 2-3 million, Spezza is the best bargain in the league other than Drew Doughty on his ELC. There’s no maybe about that one.

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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 3, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does everyone think the Caps only want Russians?

http://thepipelineshow.blogspot.com/2010/06/26th-washington-capitals-draft-preview.html

Kabanov is a little tempting, though he’s said to have maturity issues, but he was dealing with the Russian national organization and the Quebecois, so who knows.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously. Draft for need and best available, not for fellow comrades from mother Russia. We need a good dose of North American skill/moxie on this team.

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by JSchon on Jun 3, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes sense why, it’s just a shallow analysis.

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by Rob Parker on Jun 3, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

BrosLikeThisSite.com has an amusing article about a Caps fan. Man, I wish Ned’s Younger Brother was a Flames fan. You guys are Bro Kings just by association.

by Rod Blogojevich on Jun 3, 2010 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Corey just posted a new column about Andrew Gordon, which includes this amazing quote:

I was pretty grumpy and didn’t want to talk to anybody. I just wanted to sit in a dark room and rub my injury until it got better.

“Lower body injury” So that’s what the kids are calling it these days.

"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."

by bagace on Jun 3, 2010 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   3 recs

Nice try

but a balky knee is about the only thing that has slowed him this season.

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone tell me why I bother to listen to these season ticket holder fan forums? I thought they screen the damn callers before they ask questions. Why do they let some idiot ask if they should move Green to another position? Especially asking the owner. Sheesh!

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

They do screen — Wes intro’d that caller explicitly such that I certainly knew what was coming. I guess someone must have thought it was a question worth hearing the answer to. Doesn’t it amke you appreciate Ted even more?

by CapitalCentre on Jun 3, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the question was a little rhetorical, but I just was astounded they’d let that question through.

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by gfcaps fan on Jun 3, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what email is for, duh.

by EmilyB on Jun 3, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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