Saturday Caps Clips: An Angel Gets His Wings
by EmilyB on Jun 19, 2010 10:10 AM EDT
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Your savory Saturday brunch links:
- Program Note: Be sure to check out Japers' Rink Radio at 10:00 EDT this morning, as Stephen and Russell chat with very special guests Karl Alzner and TSN.ca's Scott Cullen (who will discuss this article, among other topics) and take your calls. 99.9% chance of awesome.
- Mathieu Perreault gets a pair of wings and the title of Président d'Honneur of a hockey tournament in his hometown of Drummondville. The poster for said tourney is to the right -->. WANT. [Hockey Aborigine]
- Tarik El-Bashir reports that defenseman and pending UFA Shaone Morrisonn's phone has been silent this summer. The month of Movember may never be the same in the Caps' dressing room. [Caps Insider]
- Meet Ross Mahoney, the Regina-based head scout of the Washington Capitals [Star Phoenix]
- The Sporting News ranked their top 25 athletes under the age of 25. Two hockey players made the
listtop five. Go on, guess. [Sporting News] - It's nearly time for the NHL Awards, which means:
- The NHL.com team makes a case for each of the Hart nominees. [NHL.com]
- Canwest makes a case for Mike Green and the Norris. [Montreal Gazette]
- Alex Ovechkin is Stateside once again. [TEB via Alex Ovetjkin]
- In former Caps news, Chris Clark has been named to the NHL's Competition Committee and voted Friday on the League's new headshot rule. [NHL.com]
- An impressive retrospective of the Hershey Bears' impressive season - Eleventh Heaven. [The AHL]
- Cody Eakin was certainly impressed. [Prairie Post]
- But that's not the smell of Chocolate in the air in Hershey, that's the smell of Change. [Hershey Bears Hockey]
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As a correction – three hockey players made Sporting News’ list of top athletes under 25.
I'm gonna pain you dearly Woodhouse, when I peel all your skin off with a flensing knife, sew it into Woodhouse pajamas, and then set those pajamas on fire.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
Looks like it’s deathly quiet here today, but I think Japers’ Nation might be sad about this:
Nashville trades Hamhuis rights to Philadelphia
"It's always good to have vikings."
I wasn’t able to open the site or any of the SB nation websites until now. I tried all morning long. I think there was a problem before.
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On Hamhuis, I agree that many of Japers nation will be sad. He was the free agent most fans here were hoping for the Caps to acquire.
So which defenseman can the Caps acquire now, without having to cough up too much money.
Rocking the Red since 1975
Zbynek Michalek
No idea how to pronounce it, but I’m hoping we can manage to get him with the Phoenix cap situation.
Mon dieu! Il y a un hache dans ma tête!
by OvechKING on Jun 19, 2010 2:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Phoenix cap situation? I think you mean their financial situation. Yotes only issue is how much money they are allowed to spend. They’ve still got over 21 million to spend before they’d be up against the cap.
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We got jobbed.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t it obvious? Even if we couldn’t re-sign him, he was worth a helluva lot more than a 7th defenseman and a 7th round pick. I don’t fucking get it. We don’t have a 2nd rounder, why not fleece Vancouver out of theirs? Why not trade for Eric Fehr? Why WHY WHY?!?!?!
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that the Caps would have given up Fehr for those rights, but I could see maybe getting a 2 from VAN. What I don’t understand is why you need a sub-standard D. You’ve got plenty great ones and more on the way. What does GMDP see in Ryan Parent that he just can’t quit him?
I waited all year for this?
I trust GMDP’s talent evaluating skills, and Trotz gets the most out of his players, so Parent could still rebound: but he’s the most superfluous player on the roster, right now. And the worst.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If the choice is getting nothing, and getting pennies, I guess you take the pennies. PHI must figure they can sign him, but I thought they had their own cap issues.
"It's always good to have vikings."
They have about 8 million in cap space (10 if the cap rises) to sign 5-6 guys. They have the money to give to Hamhuis if they are willing to a) not significantly upgrade the goalie situation and b) fill out the roster with lots of league minimum type players. Coburn is RFA and depending on how the Hamhuis negotiations go they might mean the end of Coburn in PHI. Hammer is an upgrade, but it still leaves them with only 2 reliable pairs if Coburn leaves.
I waited all year for this?
I don’t know, but if I’m Hamhuis, unless they knock my socks off, there’s no reason to sign before July 1.
"It's always good to have vikings."
That’s what I said about Timonen and Hartnell. When PHI makes these moves they are generally pretty aggressive about getting the player signed.
I waited all year for this?
Per TSN story
“I think Philly has an unbelievable defensive core,” Hamhuis said in a statement. "To join a core like that makes the Flyers one of the tougher ones in the league.
“To play against the teams from the East, the conference has a lot of great forwards, and watching the playoffs, having a great defence will get you a long way.”
"It's always good to have vikings."
I would have rather had a pick. Even a 3rd rounder.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I could live with that too. Keep gutting PHI’s next couple drafts. They’ll be a beast for a couple years but they are creating a huge hole in their farm that is going to be tough to compensate for, I hope.
I waited all year for this?
That's what I'm afraid of
But really I think trades like the Leino deal, where we create a prospect out of nowhere, are helping us keep afloat. Up front we’re still fairly young and have three young entry-level prospects in Giroux, JVR and Leino. We also have two possible second pairing defenders in Kevin Marshall and Marc-Andre Bourdon in the AHL, but they will take a couple more seasons at least before they can take up that role. But there has been some evidence that Holmgren is very high on Marshall especially and doesn’t want to trade him.
Still, we do need to have a good draft next year to keep that farm stocked.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 19, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think someone at PHI has blackmail photos of GMDP because I can’t understand why else GMDP would keep giving PHI such sweetheart deals. I can’t say they got totally robbed because they never were going to get much for Hammer’s rights, but Parent blows and NSH absolutely doesn’t need help on D. GMDP has some sort of crazy love affair with Parent for some reason and totally just gave PHI a huge advantage because of it. Gotta say, this Philly-friendly bullshit is making it awful hard to root for NSH anymore.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on Jun 19, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
All I can do is co-sign, man. I will say that some return is better than none for a UFA, but still. Parent is probably worse than Jon Blum is right now.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatever. Have fun watch GMDP ruin another potential contender with a hard on for too many D and no O.
I waited all year for this?
Look, I know. For a team that is expecting to contend for the Central Division next year (laugh all you want), this is taking a step backwards.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I am going to laugh all I want. You can’t win in the NHL anymore if you can’t score goals. Sure, you need to play D, too. And you guys can do that. But teams that are D-only don’t go very far without some sort of ridiculous luck on their side. NSH has had scoring problems for years, and the PP was possibly the biggest reason they couldn’t upset CHI this year, and GMDP refuses to address it. I could live with that if his stupid obsession didn’t help out PHI so damn much. You can say you want to contend for the CD, but right now, on paper, I’ve got you guys 4th. Hey, at least you should out-score CBJ.
I waited all year for this?
I don’t have any idea what Poile is planning on for scoring. We haven’t re-signed Hornqvist, and we rely on old farts Dumont, Sullivan, and Arnott for a top line. Its pathetic. We finished in the top half of ES scoring, so its not ‘quite’ as bad as all that, but the power play is just embarrassing. Fehr, or someone like that, would’ve helped immensely.
Whatever. We were supposed to finished last in the division this year, too. I don’t give a shit anymore about division placing. I want to win a playoff series. And the bottom line is this trade does not help us move towards that goal.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I never had you last in the division, even after Mason’s hot year CBJ never scared me. I think you and STL are right about the same level with you guys having an advantage on D and them having an advantage on O. I think their young forwards are going to continue to progress, their D is young and getting better, and they closed the goaltending gap considerably with the Halak trade. They could come out and stink for the first half of the season again and I wouldn’t be shocked, but I don’t expect it. And no, Ryan Parent doesn’t do shit to help you win a playoff series no matter where you finish in the regular season. Anyone that watched this year realizes that.
I waited all year for this?
Yeah, I don’t understand this at all. There are a lot of teams that need a top 4 D, Pitts, VAN, the list goes on and all Nashville could get for this guy was a lousy D and a 7th round pick? Couldn’t the Caps afford to give Nashville the pick and a prospect or shit just give them Flash. Do GMGM and GMDP don’t get along or something? Or maybe GMGM is hoping to get someone more experienced like Mitchell as Cullen suggested on the Radio show today. Who knows.
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Flash isn’t a D.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on Jun 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ow.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
He jokes, because apparently, thats all David Poile will trade for.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
and we rely on old farts Dumont, Sullivan, and Arnott for a top line
There goes that scoring…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 19, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What scoring?
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That ES scoring!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Done and done. Not the news I wanted to come home to, at all. Daaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
That would’ve certainly made more sense.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Clark must have taken Blake’s place. Good on him, hopefully those guys can help improve the game.
They're coming.
I’m confused as to your comment. Is it about the photo? Looks like every pre-game skate action shot I’ve ever seen used in publicity photos.
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Perhaps it’s because you can only see the #8 on his sleeve, not the full #85? I admit to doing a double take for just a moment.
"It's always good to have vikings."
That is just the angle of the photo. Happens all the time with guys who have double digit numbers. They even have his Caps number just below the photo.
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Precisely. At first glance it looked a lot like an Ovi videogame cover (I forget which one) with a different head.
by CapitalCentre on Jun 19, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to hear Pepper bring up Patrick Sharp’s name on JRR this morning.
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I didn’t catch any of it. How’d it go? Did Alzner have anything particularly interesting to say (or to answer)?
I waited all year for this?
Nothing stood out from Karl’s part. He answered questions how you would expect. He sounded older than he is from a poise standpoint. He was very complimentary of others.
By the way, I rarely listen live given the time and day. I subscribe to it on Itunes and listen when I get up or have time like I did today.
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I think that is a bit unfair and I’m not saying that as defending the interview as much as having heard it several times I picked up on several subtle things in the things he did say.
If you listen in every answer he does not associate himself as a member of the the Washington Capitals. It is always “the Caps” and “they”. This is a guy who as fans we view as a shoe in and view as a Cap and he does not seem to view it the same way and that doesn’t seem to be just lip service. He said as much when talking about his recall from Game 7 and his shuffling back and forth between Hershey and Washington.
I also got that he was highest on Holtby from the goaltenders. He had good things to say about all of them, which I would fully expect from a teammate, but with Holtby he went beyond that and said he actually enjoyed watching him play. This was another example of his disassociation of being a member with the parent club, he kept saying the Capitals look to be in good shape in goal for the future and the like. Never “we”.
by freakinandpeakin on Jun 19, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we just disagree on “standing out”. I wasn’t knocking any of the participants. It’s just that Karl said nothing that was surprising to me. That isn’t a knock on Karl or the interviewers (Pepper and you). If anything my comment should be taken as a compliment to Karl. You could tell from the interview why he was a captain in the past. Poised, mature, confident, yet humble.
As for the Holtby part, I didn’t find that to be a surprise either. If I’m not mistaken he played more with Holtby during the season than any other goalie. However, I can see how you may feel that portion was particularly insightful. Based on the fact I’ve thought all along Holtby might turn out to be the best of the 3 young guys I probably didn’t see it as anything “new” I guess.
One other note – I thought the interview questions were first rate. No endless stream of “what’s your favorite” type of crap that seems to be the questions de jour in blogs & MSM interviews these days.
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I’m kind of surprised he tabbed Holtby. Sure, he saw him a lot this year but he was playing in front of Neuvirth for both Calder Cups and he’s seen enough of Varlamov to know what he’s about. It’s a great sign for Holtby, but especially after Holtby’s playoff performance I can’t say I’m not surprised.
I waited all year for this?
I didn’t take it as a knock. I in fact didn’t want to come across as defending the interview since I was involved in it. I think interviewing athletes is tough, because I think it is always hard to get anything out of them and they will rarely say anything all that earth shattering or interesting. I much prefer talking to the people who cover the sport or are opinion makers, because they will give opinions.
If I have one “disappointment” about the interview is that he didn’t tell us the joke he told the Caps during his interview.
by freakinandpeakin on Jun 19, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 25...
…I didn’t realize Strasburg was over the age of 25. Odd.
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LOL Devils
http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2010/06/zach_parise_hopes_john_maclean.html
Parise was anxious to see what kind of changes MacLean brings.
"He’s younger so hopefully he’ll bring some new ideas and some changes. Because we need it."
MacLean, 45, spoke of getting back to Devils hockey.
I waited all year for this?
Just what is “Devils Hockey” as opposed to that of the previous coach?
If you've read this far...seek help.
Don’t hold your breath, Zach.
Just hold out and demand a trade to the Caps!
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by Killer_Carlson on Jun 19, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The thought of that excites me. Even though I know it’s never happening.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
HOLY SHIT
Jason Arnott just got traded to New Jersey, you guys.
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Link? Return? We just got punk’d?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
http://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/16565834481
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Watch out everyone! They are going to win the ’99 Stanley Cup this year!
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on Jun 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Langenbrunner, Arnott, Elias OH MY! LOL.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget Rolston!
Hey, they won the Cup before, who’s to say they can’t do it again just because it is a new era and they are all 10 years older? In Lou we trust!
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by Killer_Carlson on Jun 19, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And is the return White or Green?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damnit, I thought there was an extra ‘e’ in there, but I couldn’t remember. Fuck it, people know who I’m talking about – the best D man in the NHL whose name is pronounced “Green”.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
At this point, I think Poile has something else up his sleeve. Stephen Weiss pretty please.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, if we can’t get him, I’d settle for having him go to a Western team I don’t hate (and not having to play him 6 times a year).
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind seeing him go out west if not here. He’s also a great GMDP player: mostly a defensive stud with a little offensive upside.
I waited all year for this?
Like David Legwand, except better.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, pretty much. Good comparison. At least he’s cheaper. It would make some sense, because now you guys really need a C. I don’t think it’s a terrible idea to move Arnott; we already talked about his injury problems and his 4.5 cap hit. I just wonder what it means next because now GMDP really needs to address the forwards.
I waited all year for this?
Weiss isn’t really a 1C, though, which is now the need unless someone crazy thinks Wilson is ready.
I swear to God, if we re-sign Grebeshkov instead of get a F I will shoot something.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re going to use the new cap space to go after Paul Martin.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah well, I wouldn’t be shocked to see that happen. You definitely need more help at C than just Weiss, and I don’t think Wilson is anywhere close to ready to be a 1C. I just don’t know who GMDP would get to play that role. He’s not going to go make a big offer to Marleau and I can’t see him trading away too much to CHI to get Sharp. What are the other options?
I waited all year for this?
The Caps have a scoring line center that’s available to any suitors that are interested!
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Nylander AND Fleischmann! (e3)
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d make that deal, most likely.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Sharp isn’t a 1C. Arnott pretended he was, and thats now the hole we face (ahem). Marleau is a Trotz-type, but too expensive. I’m pretty satisfied with trading Arnott, but baffled nonetheless.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, Sharp probably isn’t a true 1C but he’s a better option than Weiss or Plekanec or the other guys that might be available that I can think of. Marleau is the only true 1C available but we both know that’s not happening.
I waited all year for this?
Totally forgot about Plekanec. Don’t want him, though.
Is someone available on the trade market we don’t know about?
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes please.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is that with the way PHI owns GMDP you’d probably have to give up Suter or Weber to make it happen.
I waited all year for this?
Indeed. That will be Weber or Suter, now (most likely Weber) depending on how Poile foresees contracts working out. I think Suter will be the easier guy to keep long term.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 19, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Nicklas Backstrom gets no respect from Sporting News
AO, Green, Semin make the list of top 50 players.
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Wow, that is an atrocious top 50 list.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, is that a joke? How on earth is Chris Osgood anywhere near that list? Pretty hysterical.
I waited all year for this?
On second look it’s even worse than I thought. Brodeur and Lecavalier top-10??? Special Nieds and E Staal top-15? MAF? Keith at 50?
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by red army line on Jun 19, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Semin just as much as the next Caps fan, but I’d put Backstrom above/in place of him.
But don’t go blaming the magazine, blame the retired NHL’ers who have no idea.
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And around 30 places too low?
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by red army line on Jun 19, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pssst
Check the date
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by Killer_Carlson on Jun 19, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keeping the date in mind … that list still sucks.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but it sucks a little less badly.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jun 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I can agree with that.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, I just saw it on the front page of Pensburgh and didn’t bother. Weird.
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by red army line on Jun 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t bother checking the date, that is.
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by red army line on Jun 19, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, according to capgeek.com, Philly has 16 roster players taking up $48.6 million of cap room. That does not include Hamhuis or a goaltender (Leighton or someone else). That could be another $6 million right there, leaving about $4 million (assuming a $2 million bump) for five more players. Tight, but unless they move someone, they are going to cheap up on their goaltending again.
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They probably will cheap up on the goaltending, but they can still make it work if the cap goes up. Even giving Hamhuis 3.5 and Coburn 2.5 they still have plenty of money to sign a decently priced goalie. They would have to fill out the forwards with near minimum players, but they could probably also afford a guy like Dan Ellis at about 3 million. That would be a scary team.
I waited all year for this?
Holmgren was quoted as saying the goaltending would cost “considerably more” next season. But I’m not sure whether he anticipated he would be able to steal Hamhuis for so cheap (assuming he signs him now). He might just run with the Detroit theory that an elite defense will remove the need for elite goaltending. After all, Michael Leighton got three shutouts in a single playoff series without really being tested against Montreal. I would still rather having a goaltender who can steal games against offences like the Caps though…
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 19, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve never been completely sold on the “Detroit” theory. While Osgood may not be a top 5 goalie, he has won multiple Stanley Cups. That has to mean something.
by freakinandpeakin on Jun 19, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Chicago proved it too. Only thing is Detroit doesn’t have such big financial issues after winning it.
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by red army line on Jun 20, 2010 3:07 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I wasn’t clear now that I look back. I think that Osgood gets over looked at what he brings. Detroit was able to establish there reign with the help of cheaper goalies, but Osgood is better than many give him credit for.
by freakinandpeakin on Jun 20, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That depends who you talk to. There are some people that want to put him in the HoF. Don’t forget he was the backup for Mike Vernon for one of the Cups and started as the backup to Hasek for another Cup. He’s not the worst goalie ever but he’s not going to go down as a particularly exceptional goalie. The entire Detroit Theory is that if you stack your skaters you can survive with an average goalie. I’m pretty sure Osgood supports that proposition.
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He does have the results to show for it, and IIRC was strong outside of Detroit (in STL and…NYI?). He’ll be an interesting HHoF case.
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by red army line on Jun 21, 2010 4:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Boucher/Leighton giving you goaltending like that in the playoffs was a great fluke, but there’s a reason both are career backups. You don’t need an elite goalie but you need someone that you can trust to make the first save. I don’t think they reliably have that with Bouch/Leighton, and I doubt GMPH does either. Dan Ellis would be a pretty decent target, and GMPH sure knows how to play that fiddle.
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I should read down before posting…That is basically my point. Osgood brings/brought more to the table than people want to give him credit for.
by freakinandpeakin on Jun 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Osmediocre usually gets credit for being an adequate goalie that could make the first stop and refrain from letting in cripplingly bad goals that sank the team. Which is what he did. He was never an elite goalie that Detroit really looked to to steal games for their success. They always relied on their all star skaters and solid D corps to limit how much work Osmediocre had to do. Much like Chicago did with Niemi this year.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 20, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct
And I would be pretty unhappy if we went into the next season with the Boosh/Leighton combination again. We definitely need someone decent, but with the stacked defense we’ve got if we sign both Hamhuis and Coburn (and maybe we could sign a person favorite of yours: Randy Jones), I doubt GMPH is going to go for an elite goaltender.
I actually am confident we’ve got that “decent” guy in our system somewhere, but whoever he is he needs more time. Backlund could be decent. We signed Sergei Bobrovsky from Russia who has some good reviews. And our farm is pretty stacked with other goaltenders, including Nicola Riopel who a couple of seasons ago was the MVP in the Q. It’s just that we can’t rely on any one of them at this stage.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Jun 21, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Malkin to the Kings sez
Sources say the Caps have offered winger Alexander Semin all around the league. He has one year at $6 million left on his contract, and is a looming unrestricted free agent after next season.
Nobody is sure what Semin might fetch, although there’s a belief the Caps will want two high-end prospects and a pick. Semin had 40 goals and 84 points in 73 games last season.
“It wouldn’t surprise me if they moved Semin,” a league executive said Friday. “They need to make that lineup a little harder to play against and that guy is up and down.”
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Trades/2010/06/19/14447936.html
Let’s assume that they might want to trade Semin. Why would it be for prospects? We’ve got plenty of them, don’t we?
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I could see us trading him for sure. Whether it’s prospects or roster players is sort of irrelevant. I don’t think we’d get fair value for a roster player so I think prospects make more sense, especially if we can get a prospect that has already had a couple years of development (like MON got with Eller). They may not be the same impact player as Semin, but if they can step into the lineup and produce on the cheap then it could be worth it with the other cap space opened. I think two high-end prospects and a pick is too optimistic, but you have to start high. I could see a pick and a prospect, but I’d probably prefer 2 prospects that are partially developed.
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I guess it would depend on what kind of prospect. I just look at the Bears’ roster and think how we don’t have the slots for everyone we think might be worthy, so that’s why I ask what good is more prospects. OTOH, I guess if it opened the cap space for that 2C everyone wants, it could make sense.
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Moving Semin would open up the cap space to get both a legitimate 2C and a serious upgrade in the top 4D. There is still a future cap crunch to worry about with long term contracts as Carlznerson and Green are both up for new deals in the next couple years, but we’d be able to make serious improvements in other areas this year. We’d have to weight that against the loss in secondary scoring, but that’s a personal preference that’s been beaten to death.
I waited all year for this?
I just worry that 1 or 2 year contracts (so GMGM can re-sign Green and Carlznerson and Varlavirthby) will scare away potential 2Cs and top4 Ds.
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by red army line on Jun 20, 2010 3:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps because we’re expecting so many of our prospects to move up to Washington next year? At least three, maybe as many as five, based on what GMGM said. Also, the last link in today’s Clips indicates that Hershey may be thinning out this summer for reasons other than the Alzner/Carlson/Neuvirth promotions.
by CapitalCentre on Jun 19, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
This link too: http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2010/06/hershey_bears_contract_status.html
And as long as we’re talking prospects, here’s some Stingrays info: http://www.stingrayshockey.com/team/teamnews/index.html?article_id=1482
I should have known before I clicked the link who it was written by. Luckily I caught the byline right away.
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For the longest time I thought Malkin to the Kings was the name of a blog, and then I was always surprised when I ended up reading something at the Ottawa Sun. Eventually I figured out that the phrase actually referred to Garrioch.
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Yeah, my hockey brain has taken awhile to flip on today. I missed the subject line somehow. I avoid him like the plague. At least Eklund is just a blogger. The Sun actually pays that guy money.
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Even worse is that he still lists the Caps as having interest in Thomas.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 19, 2010 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
If the Bruins dump Thomas and that horrible contract it will be the best trade of the year even if they get nothing in return.
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I don’t see it happening with the way the goaltending landscape has changed in the last two years. Too much money on a 35+ when there are definitely cheaper alternatives that can give you adequate play. I agree that it would be an amazing trade if they were able to do it for a 7th round pick. If they can get away with moving that contract without throwing in a dowry I will be most impressed. Then again, NYR moved the Gomez contract and took one of MON’s best prospects, so you never know.
I waited all year for this?
What a difference a year makes. Last year, Thomas was a Vezina Trophy winner. This year, he’s perceived as the goalie equivalent of a Nylander in that getting rid of him is perceived as addition by subtraction, due to the existence of a hard salary cap.
Will Thomas be lent to the Grand Rapids Griffens and then lent to a Finnish league?
(Okay, I’m kidding on this last comment.)
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And that’s the problem with goalies. A year ago Steve Mason was the Calder winner and on top of the world. This year? People are wondering if he’s going to bounce back or go the Andrew Raycroft route. He’s got so much talent it’s hard to imagine him just falling apart, but goaltending isn’t just about talent.
I waited all year for this?
Well, Thomas at least can still play at a pretty decent level. Just Rask is better.
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by red army line on Jun 20, 2010 3:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Hee. Just found a Latvian (!) site that has Keith Aucoin going to Dynamo Minsk. Snicker.
http://sportacentrs.com/hokejs/khl/19062010-iespejams_dinamo_papildinas_vel_viens_ame
I saw two articles about Aucoin and Giroux in Swedish media two weeks ago. One of them had them going to Södertälje in the SEL and in the other one they were heading to KHL FWIW.
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This guy had decent reporting on Marcus Johansson when he was in Canada with Team Sweden prior to the WJCs, so I weight his “I’m hearings” with a bit of credibility: http://twitter.com/farhandevji/statuses/16574803145
Plus the real trades are the ones you hear nothing about ‘til they’re done.
Plus the real trades are the ones you hear nothing about ‘til they’re done
Today = Exhibit 1
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The initial report isn’t exactly reputable, so I’m not sure it needed a response. But this doesn’t exactly persuade me that he isn’t being shopped. I don’t think you’ll hear anything from GMGM’s camp and, as you said, if it happens it’ll be sudden and out of nowhere.
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