Thursday Caps Clips
by J.P. on Jun 17, 2010 6:41 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Pencil Karl Alzner, John Carlson and likely Michal Neuvirth into the Caps lineup for next year (no surprises), and don't count out returns from Eric Belanger, Shaone Morrisonn and/or Jose Theodore (?) quite yet. [CI, CSN Washington]
- Speaking of Carlson, after 100 games, he finally gets a break. [Masisak]
- Stop me if you've heard this one before - the Caps need a shut-down defenseman. [ESPN]
- Pump Jeff Schultz's tires, get a link. Rink Rule. [The Puck Stops Here]
- Alex Ovechkin and Jeremy Roenick co-hosting a soiree in Vegas? Is Party Now. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Bruce Boudreau took part in the Ace Bailey Golf Classic earlier this week, which is significant because
of the pink shirt he worehe missed the Bears winning the Calder Cup in order to raise some money for charity. Good on Gabby. [Monarchs] - The Caps have two of the District's top-five team players. [SB Nation DC]
- A Brooks Laich... Nats jersey? I'm leaning "awesome." [Capitals Outsider]
- Closing the book on 2009-10 in Hershey... [Patriot-News]
- ... with an eye on 2010-11. [Patriot-News]
- Notes on Chris Bourque and Keith Aucoin. [The Hockey News]
- Alzner was on "Overtime with Bill Rohland" last night. [106.7 The Fan]
- Neuvirth gets some love from back home as he bids adieu to the A. [iDNES.cz (nice pic, btw)]
- Uncle Peerless speaks for a lot of us with regards to his feelings on Hershey's latest championship. [Peerless]
- More coverage of Hershey's win and subsequent celebration (the pics of Alexandre Giroux - like this one - are not to be missed). [OFB, RMNB, Ravings of a Rink Rebel, RtR, @itallfallsdwn]
- "I just felt competitive all-star cheerleading was something we needed to bring to [Chicago's North Shore]," says a former Caps draftee. [Lake Forester]
- Finally, happy 29th birthday to Maxime Ouellet and happy 33rd birthday to Trent Whitfield.
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"I just felt competitive all-star cheerleading was something we needed to bring to [Chicago's North Shore]," says a former Caps draftee
Don’t keep your hopes up. John Varga (a 5th round pick of the Caps in 1992) not only has traveled more than Magellan and Columbus combined, he has left defunct franchises in his wake. A sampling of his stops after he was drafted…
Tacoma Rockets (WA)*
Milwaukee Admirals (WI)#
Portland Pirates (ME)
Columbus Chill (OH) /1
Wheeling Thunderbirds/Nailers (WV)
Cornwall Aces (ON)*
Louisiana Ice Gators (Lafayette, LA) /2
Providence Bruins (RI)
Ayr (Scotland)*
Arkansas (Little Rock, AR)*
Florida (Estero, FL)
Rockford (IL) /3
Port Huron (MI)*
Tallahassee (FL)*
Peoria (IL) /4
- formerly an IHL team, now in the AHL
- no longer operating
1/ Now the Reading Royals
2/ Suspended operations in 2005, restarted in 2009
3/ The Rockford UHL franchise was replaced by a Rockford AHL franchise in 2007
4/ The Peoria UHL franchise was replaced by a Peoria AHL franchise in 2005
If you've read this far...seek help.
Varga’s dad Lou was the Equipment Manager for the Blackhawks for 30 years or so.
Varga played for Boudreau in an ECHL all-star game in 1999 when he was with the IceGators.
Varga’s experiences as a professional hockey player…He spent eight years with the Washington Capitals.
Oh, yeah—I remember him—he tapped in Bellows’ rebound against Hasek in the ECF a few years ago, right?
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Found another Cody Eakin interview. This one of by Jon Keen, play by play for the Swift Current Broncos.
http://jonkeen.blogspot.com/2010/06/eakin-talks-ahl-title-next-season.html
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by cobracg on Jun 17, 2010 7:42 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ouellet
Oh god, Maxime Ouellet. Such promise. So does anyone want the rookie/prospect cart I have of him?
man i thought we had fleeced the flyers big time on that deal. three top picks and a young stud goalie for an aging adam oates? turns out none of the picks turned into dick and ouellet sucked…not that oates helped the flyers much either. truely a lose-lose deal…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 17, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
none of the picks turned into dick
Actually… the Caps traded the first round pick they got for Oates (used at #26 to select Martin Vagner), their own 2002 second round pick (used at #42 to select Marius Holtet) and their 2003 sixth round pick (used at #185 to select Francis Wathier) to Dallas for the Stars’ 2002 first round pick, thirteenth overall, which they used to draft… Alex Semin.
So when it’s all said and done, one of those picks basically turned into Alex Semin.
Still think it was a lose-lose?
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by J.P. on Jun 17, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
one of those picks basically turned into Alex Semin.
The phrases “Semin” and “turned into” just give me really strange imagery in my head.
Why does this not surprise me?
;-)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Jun 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
i tried to make that connection to figure out how we ended up with the extra first rounder for semin. so no, we certainly got more value than philly by a long shot. still not as lopsided as it should have been had ouellet loved up to some of that billing.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Jun 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m glad I never bought that Maxime Ouellet jersey I wanted back in the day. That would have been pretty embarrassing.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
According to his Wiki, as of 2008 he as playing semi-pro in Quebec and had just turned down an offer to play in England.
Oof.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
/was
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Right after the trade in ‘02 (remember bc I was still in school) me and a good Caps friend made a long-running bet on who’d be better: Maxime or Michel Ouellet. At the time I was kind of the under-dog but I officially declared victory summer ’07 when Michel scored 49 points in the NHL and Maxime got sent to Europe.
But I guess no one was really a winner in that one. Still something cool to think back on, don’t think I’ve thought about either one in years.
by Hooks Orpik on Jun 17, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Michel went to Tampa in the Barrie/Koules Sweepstakes, correct?
Everyone who went there ended up like Bertram Grover Weeks in the Sandlot, where instead of getting really into the 60s and never being seen again went to the Lightning and were never seen again.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have any idea of who the Caps plan to select in the first round of the draft next week?
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
I’ve seen people suggest we’d take Tinordi because of his dad, and I’ve seen this Russian kid’s name get thrown around because…it’s the Caps. So basically people just think all we do is draft former NHLers’ offspring and Russians.
Not that far off, actually. Throw in a Swedish center and that’s about right.
…that was a long-winded way of saying I have no clue.
I have to admit I don’t follow the drafts as assiduously as I used to. I guess because that’s all I had to look forward to when the Caps sucked.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lars Alexander Tinordyevich
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by ThePeerless on Jun 17, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine what kind of genetic hybrid freak of nature that would be? Imagine Nicky’s hands and playmaking ability, Ovechkin’s shot and passion, and Tinordi’s size…rawr.
Sounds like Rick Nash
Eerily enough, Tinordi played at 6 ‘4, 214, Nash is listed at 6’4, 218
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely sounds like Nash.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I knew I always liked Nash for a reason…but I’d say Nash is more of a Nicky-lite / Ovie-lite / Tinordi-lite hybrid. He’s a really good player and certainly has dimensions of those qualities but I’m not convinced any of them are at the same level.
He’s a fantastic talent. Not really sure why he can’t put it all together (probably because Antoine Vermette centers him), but he probably strikes more fear in me than any other player in the Central Division.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, he puts it together pretty well, considering he’s usually a 40+ goal 80+ points threat. He’s never really had any kind of legitimate top line talent to work with in C-Bus.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Jun 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He has ungodly talent…saw that much in the Olympics when he was actually playing with decent players. Nothing that big and powerful should be able to move that quickly and have that much skill. It’s almost unfair.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Outside of Ovechkin, he’s probably the best wing player in the league.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s up there – certainly not saying he’s not a tremendous talent. I’m really just saying I don’t think his playmaking skills are as good as Backstrom’s. I don’t think his goal-scoring ability is as good as Ovechkin’s. And I don’t think he plays as big as Tinordi did. Not really a knock on him, mind you, those are tough acts to follow.
/East Coast Bias
Its tough to evaluate him because he’s been on such poo poo teams.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I agree – just saying that the combo platter of those skills, even diluted as they are, are incredibly formidable.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s Bizarro Ovechkin….if Ovechkin had been stuck with Dainus Zubrus and Chris Clark his entire career.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Upon further reflection, I’d take Parise before Nash. Never mind.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
How many people remember GMGM desperately trying to move up in the 2002 draft to have a shot at Rick Nash (unlikely) or Bouwmeester (possibly)? He looked more dour than usual that day explaining what great draftees the Caps had in Eminger, Semin, and Gordon…like he was just going through th emotions. Too bad he didn’t know at the time that one of the three was a true diamond in the rough.
Not a real distinguished list
9 272 Washington Patric Blomdahl R AIK Jr. (Sweden)
8 242 Washington Igor Ignatushkin F Elemash Elektrostal (Russia)
7 209 Washington Joni Lindlof W Tappara Jrs. (Finland)
6 179 Washington Marian Havel C Vancouver Giants [WHL]
5 145 Washington Robert Gherson G Sarnia Sting [OHL]
4 118 Washington Petr Dvorak R Havirov Jr. (Czech)
4 109 Washington Jevon Desautels L Spokane Chiefs [WHL]
3 92 Washington Derek Krestanovich C Moose Jaw Warriors [WHL]
3 77 Washington Patrick Wellar D Portland Winter Hawks [WHL]
2 59 Washington Maxime Daigneault G Val d’Or Foreurs [QMJHL]
1 17 Washington Boyd Gordon R Red Deer Rebels [WHL] 303
1 13 Washington Alexander Semin R Chelyabinsk Jrs. (Russia)
1 12 Washington Steve Eminger D Kitchener Rangers [OHL]
Duncan Keith with 54th overall in that draft.
Adam Burish went 282d overall.
Tomas Fleischmann went 63rd.
Jonathan Ericsson went 291st (last pick in the draft)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen people suggest we’d take Tinordi
I’ve seen that too but most mock drafts have the Canucks picking him ahead of us.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
by CapsFan2020 on Jun 17, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions
NHL.com mock drafts here: http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=531628
In all three drafts, Tinordi goes one spot ahead at #25 to the Canucks. The ‘experts’ list three different guys for the Caps, none of whom I’ve heard of. (Two of them Russian/Belorussian, naturally)
The HF mock gives the Caps Tyler Pitlick.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 17, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember his uncle Lance.
Good luck selling any Pitlick jerseys though…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Birthdate November 1, 1991…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Jun 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
What’s with this whole generation of hockey players being named Tyler?
by CapitalCentre on Jun 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the generation name thing. Every generation’s parents get enamored with certain names. How many Jennifer’s are there in their mid 30’s to 40’s?
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by Carl Putnam on Jun 17, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
There is a whole battalion of “Brendan’s” to account for…
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by ThePeerless on Jun 17, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t forget about the divisions of “Ashley’s” either.
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by Carl Putnam on Jun 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I was just listening to Caps Report with Red Line and Tinordi at the moment is ranked right where the Caps pick is. Beyond that, who knows.
"I’m very happy to hear the news," Ovechkin said when he heard about Backstrom's longterm contract--"because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
by capsyoungguns on Jun 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Be sure and keep tabs on the SBNation NHL mock draft running this week, the Caps pick will go down in a coupla days. Thus far, Derek Zona/Copper & Blue. took Taylor Hall, Stanley Cup of Chowder chose Tyler Seguin, and Litter Box Cats took Cam Fowler.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
oops
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Somewhat related, I’ll be out in LA and attending the draft, so we’ve got that going for us.
In SBN’s mock draft, I made the Caps pick and took a kid named… well, you’ll have to wait ‘til next week to see. But really, no one knows nothin’.
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I heard …’s grades came back as incomplete
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I know who you picked. One blogger sort of let it slip in one of the comments sections of his blog.
Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
by CapsFan2020 on Jun 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that right? It’s not exactly a national security risk if it’s out… Which blogger, might I ask?
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Lobbies: Green, Carlson, Orlov
by CapsFan2020 on Jun 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Scoring an SBN press cred?
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on Jun 17, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
The League is credentialing a handful of SBN bloggers and I’m one of them (which isn’t too terribly new – I’ve been credentialed by the Caps for a few years now).
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Does that mean you get to give Wilbon dap when you see him in the Press Box once a year?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Say hello to Mike Wise for us…
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by ThePeerless on Jun 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you pick the guy you would pick, or did you pick the guy you think the Caps will take? And was it different?
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I like the guy I picked and I think he’s the type of guy the Caps could look at. But again, I know nothing.
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Hold the damn phone
You’ll be out here? You must let me buy you a drink at either Barney’s Beanery or, better yet, Father’s Office. Fantastic selection of obscure micro and world selections, on tap. Come on—I swear I won’t say anything nice about Fleischmann.
Where you staying? Downtown, I suspect….
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Mmmm..Barneys. The original one I assume.
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Sorry—I live in Santa Monica, so I go to the local.
But I promise F.O. is even better,
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
The one on the Promenade? Man that place is depressing now.
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Whoops. My answer wasn’t clear at all. I meant the Promenade. However, even without that the Barneys on the Promenade doesn’t have the vibe inside the one in West Hollywood does.
Sorry this has gone OT.
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Um, how about that Jeff Schultz?—he’s pretty good.
Sure, but the WeHo Barney’s isn’t the sports watching center that the SaMo Barney’s is. I’m cool with the promenade, especially now that we have a Chipotle.
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Love Barney’s.
I’m in the process of procuring accomodations, with my brother’s place in Los Feliz as a fallback.
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Right on. Let me know, offers good until your plane leaves LAX.
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Appreciate it. I’ll be making my whereabouts public, so something should work. You going to the draft at all?
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Wasn’t planning on it—got a little one (about the same age as yours, if I recall) so Saturday is probably out. Friday maybe.
by bilspacecadet on Jun 17, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL drafts are a good time. i went to Columbus & Ottawa.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Jun 18, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have any idea of who the Caps plan to select in the first round of the draft next week?
About the 20th ranked player on their internal rankings?
I dunno, I don’t think you make any plans at 26. You just rank the kids and see who will fall to you.
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
NJD announcing John MacLean as next head coach this afternoon, per official team Twitter.
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Nice to see Lou going outside the family.
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by Carl Putnam on Jun 17, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If he can get Marty to play 60 games or less, he should win coach of the year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Yippie-ki-yay, motherf’er.
Oh, not that one.
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by J.P. on Jun 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Good morning. Late getting to the office this morning, but I feel compelled to give some love to competitive cheerleading.
Yes – it’s because my 12-year-old daughter participates.
Yes – it’s because I feel like I’ve mortgaged the house to pay for it.
But – they do work hard to prepare for the competitions, and she has learned a lot about discipline and teamwork. And – you can get a college scholarship for cheerleading!!
One last comment — each sport has it’s own subculture. I’ve seen ice skating, ice hockey, baseball, lacrosse, softball and marching band subcultures. Now marching band is a bit weird, but there is nothing even close to the weirdness of a competitive cheerleading competition. One time I saw a parent squad do a routine, complete with back handsprings, a pyramid, music, etc.
/ Vomit.
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I love how the Varga article says he spent 8 years with the Caps. If I recall he never played a game for the Caps. Spent his entire career in the minors, right?
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I had never heard of him until the article JP found. I’m amazed he found it. Interesting that the article says he spent 8 years with the “Washington Capitals” and not the “Washington Capitals Organization,” although I’m not even sure that’s true.
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I had to read that twice to make sure I read “Varga” and not “Viagra”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Having just gotten caught up on this whole thread, I can safely say that your mind is miles deep in the gutter this morning. I’m impressed.
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Yeah…even i’m tired of me. Ugh.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats pretty damn awesome, right there.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that FLA is excited about Dave Tallon, but I have to admit I’m underwhelmed. I don’t think he’s a savior as GM and what I’ve heard from FLA so far hasn’t made me change my mind. Obviously FLA needs to change some things, but shopping Horton and Weiss doesn’t seem like a great idea to me. Of course, the price is a big factor in it, but unless he’s going for full-on rebuild I don’t see how trading those guys makes FLA a better team. I would sure as hell love Weiss, though I suspect the price is going to be higher than GMGM will be willing to pay.
I waited all year for this?
Tomas Vokoun. He’s on the hook for one more season at 5.7 (his cap hit), and they’ve got Markstrom and Salak in the pipeline. I would bet a lot he’s on the move at the Deadline.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree. I don’t see them in the hunt at that point of the season so he’ll probably move but there isn’t any rush to move him. Horton and Weiss have too many years on their contracts to make them easy to move at the deadline.
I waited all year for this?
I can’t believe they’re paying Ballard 4.2 each the next FIVE years. With a No Trade Clause. Woof.
McCabe, Stillman, and Dvorak all expire next season. I bet all those guys will go at some point too, but its going to be a little tricky because McCabe and Vokoun as well both have NMC’s.
Horton has an NTC that kicks in July 1, Weiss has an NMC.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Jun 17, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah Maxime Ouellet, the one player whose autographed jersey I own.
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A first rounder that dropped precipitously for their success in the playoffs. Was a 14/15, now 23/24 I think.
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Reppin' Team Tyler yo.
Woof, I don’t know if I like that package if I’m a Blues fan. Perron is a decent wing and he’s 22 – there’s some RFA years left to go and he made just shy of a million bucks last season.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, STL has one of the deepest farms and they need a young goalie. They can afford to give up a First and while Perron is a good player he’s at best their 4th best Forward and even earlier this season I was hearing he wants a big raise. Anyone know who Perron’s agent is? (And it’s all moot if Perron isn’t in on the deal.)
I waited all year for this?
Can’t find his rep after a cursory google seach and he’s definitely behind Oshie, Berglund, Backes, don’t know enough about the other forwards for the Blues to say more than that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
So MON thinks they actually had an ECF competent team without Halak? This is more than a little hysterical. I guess The Client may have been asking for more money than they wanted to pay. I just don’t see how they don’t realize he was hiding some ridiculous flaws.
I waited all year for this?
I think they know that they had no shot at going as far as they did without the efforts of Client Jaroslav Halak, but Price is going to be a lot cheaper, I’ll bet. What do you want to bet he’s not as hot to start the playoffs next season? I like this trade for MTL.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course he won’t be as hot, but at the same time he’s the better goalie. Is MON really built to hide goaltending? I don’t think they are. They got a real nice return, and undoubtedly wouldn’t have gotten the same for Price, it just seems odd to trade your team MVP.
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No problem with them selling him now. However, if Price is who they intend to give the job to then they are in trouble. Thought they had another good youngster in the system. Anyone know who I’m think of?
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Looking at HF their best goalie prospect is 12th on their list and only a 6.5C.
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Bob MacKenzie is saying that neither Montreal nor St. Louis have had talks with Halak, and that Halak has some KHL suitors as well.
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Well STL wouldn’t be allowed to talk to Halak yet, but you have to think they are serious about keeping him if they traded for his rights. I don’t think Halak will want to go to the KHL at this point in his career.
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I think another club can talk to a pending free agent with the free agent’s club’s permission.
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This Schultz is, if twitter is correct, Jeff’s little brother.
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He is Jeff’s brother. I got confirmation from somewhere other than Wiki.
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Teh twitterz are reporting the Habs never spoke to The Client after the playoffs. He’s RFA July 1 and they never started negotiations.
Guess the Habs wanted roster players instead of the pick(s) for letting him walk. Seems like the asking price is a little low though.
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by Bald Pollack on Jun 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Price is a bit of a powder keg, but that the difference between the two isn’t that big in terms of stopping pucks. Halak was excellent this season and post-season, but I’m of the opinion that he played over his head to make that happen, even during the first eighty-two games.
Their farm doesn’t look spectacular, getting a first and a young roster player is a great return for what Halak was going to cost. If It’s not Perron, getting prospects for that farm is a win for them too.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on Halka. Which is why the timing is certainly right in terms of when you trade hios rights. This assumes you have a Plan B in goal. I’m not sold on Price as that Plan B. I wonder if they are done dealing or just started.
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So you think they are looking for a new goalie? Does that mean they move Price as well? Everything I’ve seen says MON didn’t want to platoon again so if that’s true it means either Price is the go-to or they move price and get another go-to.
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I can’t believe they’d be sold on Price after everything that has happened. Then again I can’t believe a lot of things that happen every day in this world.
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Yeah, if it’s the Eller/Schultz package then I think STL got a steal. They have Berglund, Oshie, Backes, McDonald, and even Boyes can play C. They can afford to move a C prospect (and they still have Sonne on the farm) and Schultz isn’t really an impact player.
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I’d agree if that was the deal. Everything I had heard was Schultz’s bro wasn’t expected to be anything more than a marginal NHler and that was if he hit his ceiling. Eller was the obvious name prospect to move because of his position.
I wonder if this means the Habs are planning on re-signing Plekanac.
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Was just typing the words “cost” and “moving assets” when you posted this but I could see that.
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by Bald Pollack on Jun 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
At the very least, it looks like hedging. St. Louis Game Time also seems to think Eller wasn’t in the Blues’ plans as they wouldn’t give him much NHL time last season and were planning on starting him in the AHL this season.
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I watched Eller quiet a bit and I really believe in him he got great potential. He doesn’t have any weaknesses, good playmaker, great hands descent goalscorer.
And he’s fun to watch.
But what I like with him is that he really does make the one’s he play with better. If you put him on the fourth line with actual fourth liners he will soon make them look like a scoring line.
Granted this was how he looked in the SEL but I believe he’s good enough to not just play in the nhl but to be a good nhler for many years.
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Yeah, he’s the 2nd ranked prospect in one of the highest ranked organizations, so he has to be decent. I just think MON probably could have gotten more.
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I was just giving some love to the Danes. You should love you’re neighbors and all that.
If Eller gets a year or two with a coach that believe in him you will see that he is more then just decent player.
I agree totally with what you said below take the picks and if you want a good player right away use them for that. I don’t think Montreal got full value with this deal.
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I’ll take your word for it. I’m not trying to crap on Eller, I don’t know much about him. Between your take and his HF rank I’d assume he’s got potential. I’m more curious about the total value of the compensation. Eller could be a nice piece in the package, but for him to be the main player going back seems odd.
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Gauthier says he didn’t wait for the draft to make trade because they really liked this package (eller, schultz) & didn’t want to pass it up
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On the other hand what else could he say at this point.
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True, I just wonder if STL put a time deadline on the deal. I don’t see why that package wouldn’t still be there at the draft. The more I think about it the less it makes sense for them to move Halak before the FA period.
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HF down for anyone else? I wonder if there’s a deluge of hits from Quebec on this announcement, heh.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, HF is down. Everyone reading up on two-way 2C Eller and scrappy 3rd liner Schultz. I’d expect MON to have gotten a better return than that.
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Yeah, that looks much better for STL. My guess is that this was as much about cap-space as it was about the assets, then.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t see why MON had to pull the trigger now. Was there really that little trade market for Halak that they couldn’t get more? Did they already gather the best offers from around the league in the time since they were eliminated? I’m not sure what they got is better than just taking the picks. If they want immediate help extra picks can buy that as well.
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I don’t get the timing, either. I wonder how hard a bargain Walsh was driving – he’s got something of a reputation, no?
It depends on what Halak was going to get – I’d rather get the picks at $3,923,434 or more, but if it’s a little less than that I could see taking that package over someone’s 1st and 3rd, especially dependent on the team making the offer sheet.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
If it’s less than 3.9 I think MON would have re-signed him. I think Walsh is definitely pushing for more than 4 and I think it’s likely that he’s starting negotiations above 5. Why not go to the FA period and say “if you can get that deal somewhere, fine” and then take the picks. If he can’t get that deal then the number comes down.
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If the negotiations are that high, then I’m absolutely floored that the Habs wouldn’t let him walk to a team willing to pay that price. I have to wonder if Walsh had him painted as a credible flight risk and was using that as leverage.
Two firsts, a second and a third is something they have to jump on – I’d be flying the other GM out to MTL to tender the offer sheet in person for that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, and then they could flip the picks for an established player if they wanted to. I’m just baffled. If the price is low enough that you don’t get a king’s ransom, why not sign him? If the price is astronomical, you have nothing to lose going to FA period and letting him negotiate. Either you get the king’s ransom, or the rest of the league negotiates his price down. I don’t think it’s very likely that Halak would just go to the KHL after a season like that. Seems a little rushed and desperate on MON’s part.
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They’re going to need space for next year when Markov is UFA and they have 11 million to sign a goalie and at least six forwards, a couple of which need to play on the top two lines. The more I think about it, the more this looks like cap maneuvering for the next few years.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I understand cap maneuvering, but that doesn’t mean you have to take a poor trade return.
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What I mean is this scenario: The Habs don’t think anyone with the picks available was going to make the 5+ offer for the 2 1sts, 2nd and 3rd. Price is likely to cost ~2 million less (total spitball, but I don’t think Smokey is going to be that expensive) going forward. It’s getting pretty contrived though, I think you’re right about being able to land a better deal.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
But even if he’s asking for 5, why not go to FA? If someone gives it to him, fine. But when nobody does give it to him, his price comes down. You still either get a decent compensation or the price comes down to a reasonable level.
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What I’m saying is that even with a reasonable K for his playoff performance, they may not be able to pay him, given their cap situation going forward. They had a grand total of six forwards signed and some guys that were due raises coming up, all with 11 million in cap space.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I guess it depends on what you consider “reasonable,” but if he was willing to sign for 3.9 or less I’d think MON has to do that. They could get a bare bones back up and end up spending about 4.7 on goaltending. You think there’s much chance they shave that number down too much after re-signing Price? Maybe they get it to 4 but I’m not sure the savings are worth it.
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If they can keep Price to QO price or near it, they can get it down to 3.5-3.7 or so.
Big if.
I guess it depends on what their plans for Plekanac and Pouliot are and how much they think Markov is getting after next season.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that they’re sold on Price, just more sold about what they can get for Halak versus Price and the salary savings they’re going to have as a result. I’ll bet they start the season with Price in net and go hunting at the deadline if it doesn’t work out.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Just. Plain. Rude.
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by Rob Parker on Jun 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The Canadiens are beyond pathetic, managerially speaking.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Bob Gainey’s looking pretty damn good by comparison right now, I have to say.
It’ll be interesting to see how Price responds, if I’m remembering correctly this is the first time he’ll be a solid, definite #1 goalie (at least when he’s been old enough/experienced enough to handle it).
I felt bad for Price at the end of the season. Montreal kind of messed him up and hasn’t been too kind to him. He’s still a really young goalie, so we’ll see how he does.
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Considering the last images I have of Price are him shooting a puck at a goal celebration and slashing Backstrom from the bench I can’t feel bad for him. He’s a douche bag. But I love that he’s a head case and now MON is stuck with him in net. If the MON media and fans don’t ruin the kid, or at least run him out of town, I’ll be shocked.
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Yeah, I hear you on the Backstrom slash, and for that he is kind of a douche. I still feel bad for him. Montreal has almost managed to destroy him and he’s what, 22? Why does Montreal turn all of their goalies into headcases?
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They’re accustomed to greatness in net. It’s not fair, and it’s not an excuse, but they’ve had 100 years of guys like Vezina, Dryden, Roy, Plante, Worsley…they were spoiled early and have never adjusted to anything less than perfection. Hell, even some of THOSE guys were chased out of Montreal.
I guess 101 games with a .919 isn’t good enough for them.
Yeeesh. Seriously.. man.. MTL is CRAYYYZEEEE
Price or Halak? Because Price is the head case, Halak’s held up okay in the Mtl spotlight. He didn’t have that whole “savior of the franchise” moniker on his head from day 1, though, so he had that going for him…
A way-out-there thought — might they also trade away Price and go after someone on the market (or a big time trade)? Which I suppose is a wacky idea, given that the general consensus is that there’s no prize goalie to be had.
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That makes a lot of us, I’m sure. Wonder how they’re feeling about that in Montreal.
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Yeah, I’ve gotta think that’s not going down well at all. Price has been having difficulties up there the last few months and Halak saved them big time in the playoffs.
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More conversation on the Rink than here in STL. On St. Louis Game Time there is an article, but two comments and one by our friend Missy.
Can someone define RFA for me please? Is it exclusive negotiating rights? Draft picks if someone signs an offer sheet? Can he go to the KHL?
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That article doesn’t seem to provide a date by which the qualifying offer of at least 110% has to be made.
Does anyone know?
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I think it’s June 28 but I may be wrong. At the very latest it’s going to be June 30 because FA period starts July 1.
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Ok. So the BlueNotes have two weeks to make him an offer. Plenty of time.
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Yeah, I’m sure they are serious about re-signing him so I’d expect negotiations to start pretty quickly.
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Yes. As I replied on St. Louis Game Time, there is no way in hell that this is speculative.
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28: Qualifying offers due to restricted free agents Backstrom, Boyd Gordon, Eric Fehr, Fleischmann, Jeff Schultz and a handful of prospects.
29: RFAs who remain unsigned can begin talking to other teams.
July
1: Free agent signing period opens.
5: Deadline for players to request salary arbitration. Boyd Gordon, Schultz, Fehr and Fleischmann are eligible.
12: Rookie camp in Arlington.
15: Deadline for RFAs to accept or decline qualifying tenders (unless the player has already elected salary arbitration.)
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If they aren’t good with Carey and a prospect in net, maybe they sign Jose again?
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Blues President John Davidson confirms the deal. Halak for Lars Eller and Ian Schultz.
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Now the Caps should trade Lars Backstrom and Jeff Schultz for Halak. Confuse the hell out of everyone.
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I know it’s a joke, but I wouldn’t trade either of those two straight up for Halak.
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by Killer_Carlson on Jun 17, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Schultz may not hit people, but his little brother sure does: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjtiFYOegZA
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by Carl Putnam on Jun 17, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rather stick with Jeff than his itty bitty baby brother. (At least, Ian is much smaller than Jeff,) But feistier, as well.
Ian Schultz is the real “Mr Nasty” in that family.
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Schultz being part of the defensive pairing assigned to guard his baby brother, the forward.
(Two brothers that do not look like each other at all.)
But then again, I (or rather my husband) have two nephews, who are brothers, who look nothing like each other as well. The elder is a little skinny guy, with reddish dark hair (that resembles Ovi’s mop of hair). The younger is a tall, heavy set guy with pale skin and light brown, straight hair.
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We look nothing alike either. While SME and K_C are merely sexy, I am dead sexy.
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I’d have to agree, you look like the rotting corpse of a once sexy person.
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I’m assuming snark, since you’d have to be on crack to trade a top 4 D on one of the best teams in the league for a scrappy third-liner.
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I’m assuming crack
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by Gould Old Days on Jun 17, 2010 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions
to summarize
the discussion from the Halak trade: fairly even, slight edge to the Blues. True/false?
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I think the edge to the Blues is more than slight, but it’s not a total rip off considering some of the salary factors. I’m more baffled about what MON is thinking. Doesn’t seem to make sense right now.
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I agree with you. Even if you get a good return, as they might’ve, the gap between Halak’s proven performance (playoffs 2010) and Price’s sample size is pretty large.
More than that, Halak now threatens Rinne for the best goalie in the Central… ;)
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys have got some pretty decent young goalies in that division now, no? Rinne, Halak, Howard, Niemi…and then there’s Steve Mason, who could always return to form, you never know.
Yup, sure do – and I’d rank them (on a consistent basis, that is: Halak is better than most when hot) in the same order you did.
We had enough trouble scoring on our own, going up against those ’keepers every night is only going to make it worse. Central Division is probably the best in hockey, agree?
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s see where the ’Hawks players land before we start talking like that.
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Perhaps.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
It could be argued that, top to bottom, the Pacific might be the best division in the NHL. Even before Chicago undergoes its transformation.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Jun 17, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Halak’s proven performance
“Proven” is a bit of a leap – dude’s started 19 playoff games and given up 3 or more goals in 8 of them. 2.55 is a decent playoff GAA, but nothing special, and that’s what he ended up with this year.
Yes, his high-end games have been pretty high end – two or fewer goals ten times this spring – but I have a hard time accepting “proven.”
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Fair point, but I was going more for comparing it to Price, who they kept:
gap between Halak’s proven performance and Price’s sample size is pretty large.
Basically, while Halak is going to be overvalued thanks to the playoffs, he’s still a better investment than Price. Probably.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But why invest a ton in either guy? This is exactly my point when I say “selll high”. Halak’s value isn’t going to get any greater than it is now. We can argue whether or not they could have gotten more for him, but given their cap situation and other needs moving him, especially if his contract demands are high, is a smart move.
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I guess the underlying thing here must be that Halak wanted more than Montreal would give him, because I’m not sure how it makes sense to keep Price otherwise.
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by Chris Burton on Jun 17, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s obvious that Halak wanted more than MON was willing to pay; and I agree with J.P. that MON is probably right to part with Halak under those circumstances. I am criticizing the timing. We’ll see what STL signs him for but I’d bet the RFA compensation package would have been more than what they did get.
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I disagree. Let’s say the salary is really high, say 5+. Wouldn’t you, as MON, rather have the 2 firsts, a second, and a third than getting a very good and a decent prospect? A high salary contract maybe makes it look like less of a good deal for STL, but it does nothing to mitigate the criticism on MON’s end.
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Here’s the thing — no team (other than STL) is going to offer Halak anywhere near that kind of money because nobody is going to want to give up that much talent. There are plenty of UFA goalies out there that they can sign without giving up anything and several who are young and good and may just be in need of a change of scenery.
So in that case you just let other GMs knock Halak’s price down. I don’t see the upside in moving fast and I don’t see the downside in waiting. You get to see who is serious, have the possibility of a huge RFA compensation package, or Alan Walsh has to modify The Client’s salary demands and you get to keep him for a reasonable price. I have to think that if MON could keep Halak for a reasonable price they’d rather do that than go with Price, so they are expecting Halak to get a huge payday.
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I’m with you. The only thing I can think of is that the Habs either kicked the tires and this was the absolute best deal out there (seems unlikely, especially with the timing) or they were seriously concerned about the KHL threat (and I agree with your take on that, seems unlikely).
I guess the Habs are smart to plan for the future and know that they don’t have a roster for sustainable playoff success, but the return has to be a disappointment.
Can you tender an offer to your own RFA and still trade him? I don’t know what the best way in the NHL is to control the player and get the most out of the situation (whether it’s in salary or in trading him away for assets).
How many RFA of merit have been signed by other teams since ’04? Kessel, Penner… anyone else?
Kessel technically not on the list since his rights were traded first.
Yeah, can’t think of any others. There have been offer sheets, but even those are generally not to high profile players. Vanek and Kesler come to mind quickly.
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by red army line on Jun 17, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
After reading the discussion, I still have to think MTL got the better on the deal. Eller is a top prospect and Schultz seems decent, going to MTL for a slightly above average goalie who’s reaching his UFA years very soon and will probably only sign for more than he’s worth.
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by red army line on Jun 17, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Haven’t read the entire thread, but reading Twitter you’d think the Habs traded Roy.
Halak’s overrated and will be overpaid. Good on Montreal for not over-valuing him.
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He’s probably a bit overrated, but I think a lot of the reaction (at least that I’ve seen) is based on the fact that Halak had finally stepped up and taken over the #1 spot – it’s been a few years since they had a legit #1 guy, and then he basically carried them to the Conference Finals. To trade him away for prospects is a bit of a shock for the fans.
I don’t think it was necessarily a bad trade but after this playoff run I’m really surprised, especially since it didn’t sound like negotiations had begun yet. My initial thought: after the playoff run they figured his asking price would be too high, that they could get a goalie of equal value for less $, and that Price would be fine in the interim, so they didn’t even bother to make a deal.
They also need to replenish the prospect pool a bit, they lost a bunch of kids last year in some other trades.
Eller can probably play on the Habs roster this coming season, which means they’re getting his contribution on his ELC – that’s usually the best bang-for-the-salary-cap-buck you can get out of a player.
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by Knee high to a duck on Jun 17, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
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Could say that about our Schultz too. ’Cept the dirty part.
Blues just picked up TJ Hensick from the Avs, too.
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Interesting side bit:
The truth, too, is that this was the most likely outcome for Montreal. As we talked about on the Globe podcast the past few weeks, there were some significant issues between the Habs management and Jaroslav Halak, and despite his playoff run, they were apparently deemed too much to overcome.
It’s an interesting point – there really aren’t that many teams without a #1 already locked up, the demand wasn’t going to get that large.
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Phoenix re-signs Aucoin for 2 years
Maloney signing his players under some constraints that I’m sure he wishes he didn’t have. I can’t believe teams that fired their GM’s didn’t go after him.
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