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Friday Caps Clips: A Couple More Award Nominations

Your savory breakfast links:

  • Be sure to tune in for Japers' Rink Radio tomorrow morning at 10:00 (or download the show thereafter) with special guest Dan Steinberg - sure to be morbidly entertaining.
  • Professor Masisak grades the goalies and suits. [CSN Washington]
  • Alex Ovechkin was voted a Ted Lindsay Award finalist (formerly the Lester B. Pearson Trophy, which Ovechkin has won in each of the past two seasons). [Capitals]
  • George McPhee was named a finalist for the inaugural General Manager of the Year award (catchy title). [Capitals, Puck Daddy, StC]
  • Speaking of GMs, a look at each current general manager's record. [TheScore.com]
  • Eric Fehr was one of the playoffs' best third-liners (which would be consistent with his regular season). [Puck Prospectus]
  • ReCAPSule: Joe Corvo. [Capitals]
  • Catching up with John Carlson and Karl Alzner in Hershey. [Caps Today]
  • And the Caps Calder goes to... well, click to find out. [RtR]
  • Did Ted Leonsis really "[throw] Bruce Boudreau into a fiery pit" with this blog post? [Elliotte Friedman]
  • Speaking of Gabby, he at last night's Nats game. [TwitPic, TwitPic]
  • Jose Theodore and Mike Green are good dudes. [CSN Washington]
  • Stretch gets the star treatment. [StC]
  • Stefan Della Rovere is headed to Hershey (presumably to skate with the Black Aces). [Colts]
  • Per the HHoF, on this date back in 1994, "Don Beaupre became the Washington Capitals' All-Time leader in playoff wins, with his 18th, in a 4-2 win over the Rangers, in Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Semi-Finals. Beaupre passed Pete Peeters, who had won 17 playoff games for the Caps." Olie Kolzig came along a few years later and bested Beaupre's mark, ending up with 20 playoff wins, which is ten more than Semyon Varlamov currently has.
  • Finally, happy 31st birthday to Lawrence Nycholat and happy 54th birthday to Tony Cassolatto.

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This line from Pensblog this morning actually made me cringe

Although the Bell Centre reaction was indicative of a Game 7 Stanley Cup win, it was actually a Game 4 win in a series where the Canadiens are being severely outplayed but are getting timely bounces.

Oh that wacky deja vu!

However long the night, the dawn will break again

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 6:44 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s not the first one to sound insanely familiar either. Plenty of previous quotes about how they can’t keep winning if they keep getting outplayed.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 7, 2010 6:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

and yet for how much the Habs are getting “outplayed” the series is tied at 2. Now if only the Habs could do to the Pens what the Red Wings did to the Sharks last night, and have the Habs do it twice to finish off the series.

LET'S GO CAPS!!!

by Elliotte on May 7, 2010 6:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Saw that this morning. That was nice of Franzen to make me look like an asshole for saying the Wings were done.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That guy is just plain scary in the playoffs

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by Madelle on May 7, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I’m still waiting for the Canadian press to start pilloring Crosby like they did Ovechkin for not producing in the clutch. No goals and three assists in four games isn’t exactly getting the job done, especially when you’re playing against a team missing two of their top three defensemen. Funny though how the press wasn’t so shy about ripping Malkin for being invisible.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

First hint of it, from Damien Cox:

Still 9 mins to play in the third, but this is now three very quiet games in a row for Sidney Crosby.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still shocked that Staal played last night. He’s gotta be doing long term damage to his foot by playing so soon. I get it – it’s the playoffs and all – but still I think it was foolish.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

What did he have, a severed tendon?

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what the reports said, yes.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

That sounds incredibly painful.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I assume it’s painful, but I wonder if it isn’t actually just a lack of mobility. Like, he suddenly can’t pull his foot up towards he shin like he used to, is all.

by DrinkingPartner on May 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good question. Its obviously not an injury that keeps you out a long time, like a fucked up collarbone.

Wait…

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

And if it’s not totally severed then they can just tape the hell out of it and jam it in the skate. Anything short of another skate to his foot won’t make it worse.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The team said he couldn’t make it worse by playing and they wouldn’t threaten his health, FWIW. I tend to believe them. No reason to risk his career at this point. They were still up 2-1. Maybe a guy like Matt Cooke who isn’t a huge part of the future, but not Staal.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he wasn’t so quiet in Game Two when he returned to his early yapping days and then nearly pulled a Keith Ballard on Halak.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

...

You mean this?


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Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s just a good Canadian kid showing some leadership.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

He’s just playing with passion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

He has refined his game.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s not pleading for a penalty for a cut to the face… He’s trying to signal his lawyer to sue the guilty party for hurting his precious magazine-cover-friendly face.

“Damnit! Ovie was on the cover on Men’s Journal! Now how am I going to do it?”

by Brainumbc on May 7, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

At Least the ESPN Lead Photo Is Indicative of What Happened

Through four games against the Habs:

Crosby – no goals, 3 A, 0 +/-, 8SOG, 5 Hits, 4 Take-aways, 4 Give-aways, 0PIM in 98 shifts.
Ovechkin — 4G, 4A, +7, 10SOG, 17 Hits, 0 Take-aways, 2 Give-aways, 0PIM in 90 shifts.

Hmmm. Who has disappeared thus far?

(Unfortunately, we don’t yet know how the Pens series will end.)

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sid’s in the 2nd round.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You had to bring that up? I’ve blocked that out.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Touché

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on May 7, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Although it’s funny how his production dipped when he wasn’t against the weakest team in the playoffs…

But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 7, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess. I get tired of all the Sid/AO talk, really. Its a team game. And Sid’s team, at the moment, is better. His team is capable of winning regardless of whether or not he lights up the scoreboard. In the East bracket, anyway.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Up through game 4, the same could be said for OV. He had scored 4 goals, but the team had scored 19.

It all went to hell and a handbasket from there.

I am trying to get sucked into the rivalry less and less, for I’m able recognize how good a player Sidney is. I should probably give up wanting equal press coverage and opinion, because I won’t get it.

Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!

by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t even know that it should be a rivalry. Other than their mind boggling point production, they’re pretty different players and people.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s been compared to Magic-Bird, as an example.

Was that a rivalry?

If we mean a rivalry like Michigan-Ohio State or Redskins-Cowboys or Yankees-Red Sox — maybe so. But that would really be a Caps-Pens rivalry more than OV-SC, and it existed before they came along.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sounds like BB Thinks it's at Least a Team Rivalry

Tweeted from Steinberg:

@dcsportsbog Bruce Boudreau, asked for his Stanley Cup picks: “Well, I don’t want it to be Pittsburgh, that’s one.”

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should probably give up wanting equal press coverage and opinion, because I won’t get it.

Then you probably don’t want to read this week’s issue of Sports Illustrated. (ironically, it’s the one where they destroy fellow Pittsburgher Ben Roethlisberger)

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Read it. I posted about it here yesterday.

Love fest from Farber.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hockey haunches, FTL.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should probably give up wanting equal press coverage and opinion, because I won’t get it.

That’d be wise.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree whole-heartedly. People seem to forget that the Penguins won the Stanley Cup last year.

I was getting really annoyed during the first round when everyone was fellating Crosby’s production. While it was impressive, but it’s not like it was against the Devils’ 2000 D in front of Patrick Roy.

But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 7, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I see what you did there.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Precisely. And Ottawa was banged up too. No Michalek, Kuba, or Kovalev. Hell, they even had to drag out Johnathan Cheechoo’s corpse for a couple games.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And at the same time the Caps would have smoked the Senators and the Pens would have been the team with the first round problems. We’ll see how it plays out but ignoring the order of the draw is dishonest to the debate.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

So we can blame everything on the lame shoot out attempt by Jokinen, right?

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t feel like I necessarily ignored it, and you have a good point. The thing for me is they have to step up relative to the tasks, and we see what the results were.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

They also got a pretty sweet draw last year too. The infamous “they tanked to play Philly” tinfoil hat thing, and then after us, they got a Carolina team that completely overachieved and had played two 7 game serieseses in a row.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They beat us last year. On our ice. We can’t bitch.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sid’s in the 2nd round.

Actually, it’s really the Penguins that are in the second round. Despite what the Canadian press will tell you, Sid can’t get there without the other 19 guys.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure Sid’s in the second round. He might not have gotten there all on his own, but he’s there.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, that was the point I was making (or at least trying to). You put Ovi on that team and he’s probably in the second round as well. The Pens are just better than the Caps when it comes to playoff hockey.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s hard to separate the captain and best player on a team from “the Pens are just better.” And he was pretty awesome from what I saw of him in the first round.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Sid’s a great player. Noone’s arguing that, but the reason Pittsburgh won the Cup is not just Crosby as the media would like us to believe. In fact far from it, imo. Yes, it’s Crosby but just as importantly, it’s Malkin, Staal, Fleury, Orpik, Talbot, Guerin, etc. It wasn’t easy for me to accept, but I look at Pittsburgh and I see a better “team”. The Caps may have more talent, but the Penguins have the right mix for playoff success.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I look at Pittsburgh and I see a better "team". The Caps may have more talent, but the Penguins have the right mix for playoff success.

No doubt about that. But I think you’re looking for something that isn’t there when you assert that the media portrays PIT’s success as all Crosby. Perhaps they use him as a proxy for the team’s success, as he is its captain, best and most recognizable player. But I don’t know that I’ve read anything that really gives him more credit for their successes than he deserves, to be honest.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to say the media acts as if Crosby is the only reason the Penguins are good. Especially those that say the Penguins aren’t a playoff team without him.

But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 7, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think what is true is that when people argue Crosby is clearly better than Ovie they point to team success.

Which in itself is an oxymoron, yet that doesn’t stop the pro-Sid lobby.

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by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

same with with Canada. Better team. better coaches (although I think a blind monkey suffering from an aneurysm would be a better coach than Russia’s)

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fleury definitely is a big one. Imagine how that game could have turned out if not for MAF last night?

As Bob Errey said, “this is a battle of two Great goaltenders playing Great hockey.” Indeed sir. I hope Sid and MAF continue to bring this “Great” hockey for the rest of the series. Asshole.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I really hope any talk of Fleury being a “great” goaltending dies a horrible death. He was woeful out there last night. Not a stretch to say he cost them the game IMO.

by Kolzilla on May 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That quote was Bob Errey after last night’s game.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know how you can call someone that inconsistent “a great goalie”.

He’s capable of playing great, but that’s quite a different statement.

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by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is probably just the gazillionth example of the overuse of the word “great” in all sports broadcasting.

Just watch a Nats game to hear how many times a play or hit or pitch is described as “great.”

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s because Dibble and Carpenter are utter idiots. Almost a shame Gary Thorne is being wasted on the Orioles.

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Almost a shame Gary Thorne is being wasted on the Orioles.

This. I would love to hear him calling MLB games on ESPN again. And NHL games too, of course, but one step at a time.

by J.R. Howard on May 7, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

we at least get him for Frozen Four on ESPN. its a little something.

My favorite Gary Thorn hockey call: “THE GOAL COUNTS! THE GOAL COUNTS!”

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously; and I posted just below that that its a team game. All I’m saying is when you compare the two players Crosby has consistently been more successful when it comes to you know, winning important stuff. And trust me, I’m not hating – my Crosby dislike is well documented – its just facts at this point.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

In fairness, it’s not so much what AO did through the first four games that elicited the most criticism.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

As I wrote that post, I said the same thing to myself — when I do the same thing after game 5, 6 and 7, it may not look the same depending on 87’s output.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

He got roasted for game 1.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right. Game 1. Then people STFU as he brought it in Games 2-4 and yapped again after 5-7. I’m not sure at what point any of that was unwarranted, other than the overly-broad conclusions being drawn after that very first game.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess. I’m just curious to see how it plays out if the Pens don’t win this series. I’d bet Crosby gets a lot more slack for “running into a hot goalie” than AO did.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, give the kid a break. He’s only 22!

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt. I said it yesterday or the day before – the narrative will be “The Habs D is for real” with nary a mention that they might have been wrong about what they said in Round 1.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, at least Pierre LeBrun has noticed:

Hard to believe, but Sidney Crosby might be Alex Ovechkin’s greatest ally right now. Confused? The Montreal Canadiens once again shut down the Penguins captain Thursday, evening their series at two games apiece. The longer that trend continues, the less heat, perhaps, Ovechkin will face in the offseason for his struggles against Montreal in the first round. And just imagine, for a second, if the Cinderella Habs pull off back-to-back upsets? If the rival Pens also go down to the same underdog Canadiens, the Caps’ first-round stunner suddenly gets easier to digest if you’re a Washington fan.
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by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Through the second round:

Crosby 0G, 3A, 3P—just spreading it around

AO: 0G, 0A, 0P—what a selfish loser. Complete disappearing act. Typical Russian only concerned with individual trophies.

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by red army line on May 7, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thus — I think the statement of the day could be:

Ovechkin and Crosby have lit the lamp an equal amount of times in the 2nd round.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched games 2 and 3 and in no way was MTL out-played.

Plenty of previous quotes about how they can’t keep winning if they keep getting outplayed.

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by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why should you cringe? It means Canadiens in six. (I’d say seven, but they’ve already got the second win.)

Go Habs Go!

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by gfcaps fan on May 7, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because I know how that story ended. Don’t get me wrong, i’m pleased as punch its (potentially) happening to the Pens, but its still dredging up bad memories.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

If nothing else, I envy Corey making another trip up there Monday night. That place is getting increasingly crazy with each game.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The whole place will burn if they beat Pittsburgh.

I wonder if there’s ever been a fan base that has won so much, but acts so much like they’ve never been there before? Is that just a passion thing?

1993 was a long time ago though….

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 7:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think from a passion point of view it’s definitely there. You could go up there in August wearing a team-specific cap and get into three or four unsolicited conversations. But that said, the whole burning ANYTHING thing up there is really old. It’s like they never got over Axl Rose walking off the stage in ’92.

Their pre-game activity/video stuff is really good. I’d spend money to see that stuff again, and to have another dog.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Its almost as if they’re Maryland…where any victory equates to flooding Route 1 and getting into tear gas fights with PG County’s finest.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It is is the same as UMD. There’s nothing to do in College Park other than riot, and there are no other sports teams in Montreal (apart from Alouettes)

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by sydtron on May 7, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLS is coming in ‘12, so that’ll give them a reason to break stuff during the summer, too.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

nothing like have an excuse to burn things 12 months of the year!

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the Alouettes won the Grey Cup this year.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since we took away their baseball team.

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by CapsFan75 on May 8, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure they didn’t give us that same credit when they wrote the Eugugoly for Wysh.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t know if they did or not because I stopped reading immediately after this line:

Or his benching of Tomas Fleischmann, a 20-goal scorer in the regular season, for a hapless Scott Walker in Game 7?

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL. I didn’t read it at all because it’s TPB, but that’s just hysterical. Yet another reason those assholes don’t deserve 10% of the internet cred they have. They may be funny potty mouths, but they know shit about hockey. It really pisses me off that Wysh gave them so much credibility by giving them the job. It probably sours me on Wysh more than anything else he’s done ever. I might even tell it to his face at the next view party!

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had the exact same reaction after I read that line in the Eulogy

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like they had some trouble on ol’ TPB this morning…people were being a little too…um….“politically incorrect” in talking about Subban in one of their threads. Had to kill comments for that entire post.

Guess I should be surprised, considering its Pittsburgh, where the people aren’t really known for racial sensitivity

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where are people known for racial sensitivity? Where can’t you paint people as assholes? There are enough in every crowd; TPD just happens to play to that crowd. The Habs had their own race issues with Subban fans.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously. That line makes me wonder if they even watched a single game of the series. I know they are trying to be funny in the eulogy and that not every statement is supposed to be taken as in-depth analysis, but that line is just ridiculous. Not only do they criticize benching Flash, which is silly in its own right, but they make it so much worse by throwing in “20-goal scorer in the regular season.” Unreal.

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

That thing was fuckin’ pathetic. It was almost worse than Nashville’s.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

JP you get up early as fuck. I guess I shouldn’t talk since I haven’t slept yet.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 7, 2010 6:49 AM EDT reply actions  

unfortunately, some of us “lucky” ones have to be up this early

LET'S GO CAPS!!!

by Elliotte on May 7, 2010 6:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure if JP woke up at 9 in the morning you guys wouldn’t have anything to chew on or discuss for a while. It’s good he gets stuff up early

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 7, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

It’s 8:10 PM Friday night in Hsinchu, Taiwan right now where I am. The last time I slept in a bed, it was Tuesday night in the time zone where I was.

A week ago I was in Toronto. That’s both 12 hours ahead of and behind Hsinchu.

I’m tired.

I miss you guys. I hope to get out of this soon and start posting again. We’ll see…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on May 7, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

we miss you, too!

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Keep it in between the ditches, Gouldie!

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get home safe.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

The trip is currently listed as “indefinite.” No joke. My visa is 30 days. I sure hope I’m not here that long.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on May 7, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damn. That’s rough. Hope it works out alright for you.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as prisons go, a fancy hotel ain’t bad. And hey, I do get one day a week off to see the country.

Truth is, there’s a lot of folks out there have things a lot worse than me. I shouldn’t complain too much. But it will keep me away from here some until I get back.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on May 7, 2010 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah it sucks, but at least you have a job. Better than plain ol’ unemployed.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 8, 2010 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did Ted Leonsis really “[throw] Bruce Boudreau into a fiery pit”

Not one bit. Twas just a humble “congrats” to the other team.

by Brainumbc on May 7, 2010 7:23 AM EDT reply actions  

They played committed team defense. They took our stars out of play all series. I believe our hockey IQ seemed low this series and we didn’t adjust well on the ice to the new schemes coming our way.

There is a little bit of fiery pit action going here with this quote. Adjusting is something that usually is left up to the coaching staff to implement. Saying that our IQ seemed low was not only spot on, but a direct salvo over the bow of BB’s and his coaching staff’s dingy.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Ted’s got all faith in what we have… and just understands that we just need experience. That’s all… I think everyone overestimated that experience.

Bring back Fedorov! :)

by Brainumbc on May 7, 2010 7:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you underestimate how much this loss in the first round devastated TL. I guarantee you that this series loss hurt more than any other under his tenure which includes firing 4 coaches. TL is capable of pulling the trigger on coaches. Now I do not believe that he is going to fire BB anytime soon and he’s already been given the dreaded vote of confidence by GMGM, but there needed to be a public message from GMGM or TL or both saying that we weren’t good enough to win and that “WE”, including BB and DE, needed to be better.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed. I thought there was a bit of bus-throwing, though it might not have been intentional – almost subconscious, like he spilled it all out without realizing what all of his venting was pointing to.

I guess it comes down to philosophy on a coach’s role, to an extent. Things like “They played a defensive scheme that was very frustrating. They used their match ups deftly. They were more patient than us” and “I believe our hockey IQ seemed low this series and we didn’t adjust well on the ice to the new schemes coming our way” reflect on Bruce – either the strategy/adaptations were wrong or nonexistant or the players were unable to execute the brilliant plans (which can fall back on the coach’s inability to properly prepare his team or make personnel decisions).

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Was that posted right after Game 7? I would chalk that up to still being in shock, and initial gut reaction.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

About a day after so yea… probably more subconcious reaction.

I mean hey.. he says “Live by the ) die by the O” .. As the owners he should be damn well sure of his coach’s philosophy and be ok with it. I bet the idea of firing BB has never really crossed his mind on a serious level.

by Brainumbc on May 7, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet the idea of firing BB has never really crossed his mind on a serious level.

It really shouldn’t. Not yet.

Next year is the key. If they don’t, at the very least, make the Conference Finals, some very serious questions will have to be axed.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

I bet that GMGM and TL sat down in a closed door meeting and said “WTF just happened?”. “What do we need to do?”. “What kind of changes need to be made?”. “Who’s fault is this?”.

My point. They probably thought about removing the coaching staff only as a possible solution, but quickly disregarded it as a knee jerk reaction, but at least the question was brought up and that’s pretty significant.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

We just need some adjustments. Look at Detroit and NJ in the 94-95 finals. Detroit was poised to blow the Devils out of the water and went the opposite way.

Sure enough Detroit adapted and came back and starting winning championships as soon as they figured out how to work a hardcore D team

by Brainumbc on May 7, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. But the conversation was had for the first time.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think ted is an emotional guy for sure, but he’s not stupid and he knows the impact of putting his thoughts online. i think this was very intential shot across everyone’s bow, BB, GMGM, the players. perhaps some of it was just for the fans to know that he understands the collosal failure that the playoffs were and that he wont be satisfied w/ regular season records. he may have even pulled BB aside to let him know what he was doing.

i just dont think ted does things like this without knowing exactly what the reaction would be and without some alterior motive involved.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i think this was very intential shot across everyone’s bow

I agree. And furthermore everything Ted said was pretty accurate and level-headed. It might hurt for BB & the team to hear the truth from their boss but it is what it is.

And it’s not good enough.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ted makes his mistakes, but we all can be thankful he’s not Dan Snyder after reading this:

WJLA Sacked As Redskins Toss Ball to WRC
May 5, 2010
This story elicits a big "wow!" every time I think about it.
A Marine lieutenant returning home from war contacts WJLA Washington so they can film him surprising his wife upon his return.
The wife happens to be a Washington Redskins cheerleader,reports the Washington Post, and the meeting was to take place during her practice session at FedEx Field. But WRC is the exclusive broadcast partner of the ’skins. So the football club gave the story to WRC, and told the cheerleader she’d lose her job if she spoke to anyone from WJLA. WJLA’s management wasn’t pleased, to say the least.
"To threaten to fire his wife — that is objectionable on so many levels that I couldn’t even count them," said Bill Lord, station manager at WJLA (Channel 7). "When we go to the PR department at any company and ask to do a story, the last thing you expect is that they’ll take the story and give it to a competitor. That is just flat wrong. I’m always going to think that’s unethical. It was hijacked."
The Redskins issued WJLA an apology. (Is it me, or do the Redskins seem to apologize a lot?)
Broadcasting and Cable

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

OT, but see also the article that was just on Slate about Snyder’s mismanagement of Six Flags.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Redskins issued WJLA an apology

But in the end, WRC got the story, WJLA didn’t, apology or no apology.

It seems to be part of the Redskins business model, which can be summed up in two words…

F*** YOU!!!

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on May 7, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Snyder is such a money grubbing ass.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with dcsportsfan1 on this, although TL’s irritation seems not just with BB but also GMGM and some of the players. I think TL is saying “this shouldn’t have happened”. And if that got people thinking a little about their job stability, all the better.

He never retracted any it either, as far as I know.

by Karl W on May 7, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

To be honest, if BB and Ted had a Steinbrener and Torre relationship it might not be a bad thing. Until BB proves he can coach the big game and win it, I don’t mind not having a bashful, but a passionate, owner. In fact, I think a Steinbrener/Torre relationship would probably be good for the team.

by ThreePingPost on May 7, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good for the team in sofar that “comfy” would not be a word thrown about the organization. It may even lend to adding some credibilty to the franchise by indicating Ted is more than just a blogger with an ownership role.

by ThreePingPost on May 7, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course, if we had a Steinbrenner like owner for the Caps, there would have been a lot of people cast away last summer. And many others cast away this summer. Along with numerous free agent signings.

Then again, a salary capped league is not exactly compatible with Steinbrenner style ownership.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 8, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

But it’s all true so I don’t particularly care how BB feels about it. He didn’t make anything up to try to justify it; he accurately described what happened. If that’s an indictment of BB, or “throwing him under the bus,” then so be it. BB’s a big boy, time to suck it up and respond.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Corey's grades...

I agree with all of them except for one, the coaching staff’s post-season grade of a C- was extremely generous. We did absolutely nothing to adjust, we thought we could play our game and it was our intention to get the first couple of goals to make the Canadiens play differently. There needed to be more done than that. 1 for 33 on the PP. Minor tweaks of the lines in game 7 came too little too late. We were clearly out-coached. D- for the coaching staff. Is there an F+?

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:06 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

I thought his grade of GMGM was a little generous as well (respectfully, of course). He makes a good point that the deadline acquisitions were made with the intention of a prolonged Cup run, so in hindsight, they do not look as wise as they would have in that context. The Chimera deal was fantastic, to McPhee’s credit. Knuble was a great off season pick up as well. BMo, not so much. Thankfully, the two best acquisitions will remain with the team for at least one more season, while the rest are UFAs.

My main objection is this line:

Making Michael Nylander’s albatross of a contract go away for the remainder of the season was a deft maneuver.

If Nylander is anything other than the utmost professional, GMGM does not seem nearly as "deft." I attribute the resolution more to Nylander’s flexibility and a little bit of luck. I also place a pretty high negative value on the Erskine/Sloan contracts and the Alzner back-and-forth. I would have scored him around a B- or so. However, the real test of McPhee’s mettle will come in the next two off seasons.

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Somewhat related, I looked at the Unofficial Salary Cap Info and noticed that Ben Clymer won’t need to be listed next season. Hooray!

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Every little bit of salary cap relief helps.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 8, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great take. I completely agree with the second half. I’m not as sour on GMGM for the deadline deals because he made moves to help the team. It’s not his fault the players failed. You could say “he should have gotten a different D” but the reality is he made the team better and deeper. What else can you ask for at the deadline? He didn’t take anything of much value from our future and he gave BB all the tools to make a long playoff run. I wonder how everyone feels about our deadline acquisitions of Scotty Walker plays more than 1 playoff game. That’s not on GMGM.

And, definitely, the next two off-seasons are going to be the real test.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, in the context of a Cup run, Walker and Jurcina (assuming he ever got healthy) make a lot more sense given the depth they would have provided. There was no marquee deal to be had at the right price, so he acquired some assets that he thought would help the best. Considering the pieces he gave up and that all of those players are now UFAs, there is minimal impact on next season. Hard to fault him for that.

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

(By the way, I knew I could count on you for a reply.)

"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."

by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate seeing your lonely dumpster babies.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

From the Post archives

nice story from feb 1999 about some other “young guns”. lets hope we arent looking back in 10 years and laughing at a similar article about young european players…

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/from-the-archives-skating-thro.html

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:13 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Oh Yogi….

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had almost forgotten that Rachel Nichols used to be the Caps beat writer.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s weird, I didn’t know Brett Favre played hockey.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Boy, if people think we have it bad now with TEB, I guess not too many of them remember the Rachel days.

That Caps beat writer spot seems to be everyone’s springboard to sports TV success. Nichols is a mainstay on ESPN now, and LaConfora’s on the NFL Network.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

JLC had a pretty interesting tweet about the caps after game seven. asked he what he thought of his pal semin (he hates him). he said he would never have given him an extension…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

That tweet wasn’t nearly as interesting as this one:

Same ’ol Caps. Amazing how they choke. Seen it all my life. Yet to see Boudreau show much (any?) playoff acumen. Need to table the Cup talk

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup, that was the first one. his reply to me was that semin, flash, green and BB havent shown any playoff chops. good to see he’s still paying attention…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or just piling on.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

but at least JLC has a history with the team and has seen this act before. unlike some other guys still at the post who jumped in at the last minute to get in on the dirt shoveling.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened when JLC covered the team is irrelevant to this squad. It was a bitter journo piling on.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree, those remarks gave the impression that he was glad to see the Caps fail.

by Capcrazy77 on May 7, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

not saying i agree with him, just saying he’s covered the team before and therefore has a valid reason for tweeting his thoughts. if mark maske tweeted the same thing i’d consider it unnecesary piling on. same reason why folks get so up in arms about wilbon’s comments. guy barely pays attention to the team/league all year and has never been a cap beat guy yet somehow thinks his opinion about the caps/ov/nhl should carry some weight.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

And isn’t LaCanfora a Detroit guy? It was obvious that h e just took the job covering the Caps as a stepping stone to the Redskins which turned out to be a stepping stone to the NHL Network. I always thought he never really liked the Caps beat or the Caps in general and it sure seemed to show in his writing.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually recall a blog post of his during last year’s playoffs (I believe – can’t put my finger on it) that was really quite good, insightful and critical in a way no one else at the paper has been about the team.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Must have missed that one. I don’t doubt he knows hockey, but I always thought he carried some of that Red Wing arrogance to his coverage of the Caps.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to Wiki, he was the Wings beat writer for Detroit Free Press.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, LaCanfora is a pretty good journalist when he wants to be. Calling him LaCan’treporta, while hilarious, wasn’t really true.

"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."

by The Ghost of Bebop on May 7, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I find that most LaCanfora haters just don’t like what he has to say, they don’t actually challenge his veracity.

That being said, the caps choke comment was bitter and unhelpful.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

My bad – two years ago (and still worth a read today… what else are you gonna do, work?). Man, how time flies.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know. This last week has seemed like a year.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

I actually think LaCanfora is a Baltimore guy who worked in Detroit. I seem to remember when he left the Caps beat he mentioned that he could start wearing his Dale Hunter jersey again. A beyond any complaining about LaCanfora he was a million times better than that waste of a beat reporter Rachel (Nichols) Alexander.

by freakinandpeakin on May 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one?

I woulda never given Semin the extension. He and green and Fleischman and others yet to show they have playoff chops, coach too

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does he hate Alexander Semin? Did they have a run in while he was the beat writer?

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont have the exact details but in his first season semin was late for the team plane for pittsburgh. JLC tried to get him to the airport on time but didnt make it. semin was suspended. think JLC has been sour on him since.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Shoulda drove the airport quicker!!

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I remember that one and how LaCanfora went on and on about it. I thought it was odd then. Now, reading his recent tweet, it makes me wonder if there isn’t something personal to his dislike of Semin.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why can’t Semin hate just be Semin hate?

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

People think we have it bad with Tarik? Why?

by RPI93 on May 7, 2010 8:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t mind TEB.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because 95% of my Caps news comes from here, and not Tarik, when it should probably be the other way around. The Applebaum thing with Jeff Schultz was in poor taste as well, although I guess I can’t really blame that on him.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s a reflection of how awesome the rink is, not a poor job on behalf of the Post.

by RPI93 on May 7, 2010 9:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

But he’s paid to work on nothing but the Caps. Its his JOB. And yet, I get more trenchant insight, better analysis, and better writing on a blog JP and the other staff do for free in their spare time.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, even the interviews that get linked here are better than anything I ever got from CI.

However long the night, the dawn will break again

Ron and Fez 11 to 3

by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tarik is no analyst, and the WaPo isn’t going to/can’t pay to bring anyone in who can. That said, there is an awful lot of shit he seems to leave on the cutting room floor that we’d all be interested in, and that’s on him.

by DrinkingPartner on May 7, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thought—he’s not exactly a free agent with an unlimited agenda. He actually has a boss.

by OldPhil on May 7, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

But the fact remains that he does very little outside of the Caps. He should be able to produce half of what the Rink does every day, based on insider information alone, and sometimes he does, sometimes he doesn’t.

by DrinkingPartner on May 7, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think a big reason for the disparity in interesting content between the Rink & Tarik is that the Rink is allowed to opine, and at the WaPo they can’t really.

"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins

by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

And don’t forget, Tarik travels with the team so a lot of his time is spent getting to and from road cities. I don’t think the problem is so much with Tarik, it’s with the editors at the Post who give him limited space. The Capitals Insider has been prolific at times and he’s picked up his tweeting, but I really credit what JP et al do here at The Rink for forcing Tarik to increase his online presence.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can’t or don’t?

I’m not going to get into it here, but… well, I’m not going to get into it here – I think my thoughts on the subject are fairly well documented.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll chime in:
Tarik is a beat writer and has to follow the protocols of that company; he must recap games in defined journalistic form, book all his own travel (thats a full time gig all alone! 40 trips, back and forth, plus hotels, plus expenses, receipts, etc), contact league sources, team sources, contact other journalists about their beats/sources, and maintain a home life.
Imagine having to do all that as your job, then find out you have to run a blog also, appear on tv to promote a show produced in concert with CSN at specifically scheduled times, and make blog videos for the site.
“Where’s my pay raise motherf&^&$? Not getting more than a marginal increase? Yeah, I’m working that much harder then.” Sounds legit to me.
As for can’t or don’t, its a bit of both. Can’t = has to stay within the confine of beat reporter, because journalism is lost at the moment; Don’t = too much opinion sours relationships with the team, and they detrmine access and material. If GMGM says, screw Tarik, I ain’t talking to the Post anymore and no one in MNGT may, that affects how a journalist can operate.
Just my interpretation of whats going on.

by The Jade Donkey on May 7, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I’ll answer that indirectly by saying that I really dig the analytical and critical content that Corey has been producing for CSN Washington while covering the Pens/Habs series full-time for NHL.com.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I’ll go on record to say that I agree with that, while noting that he did not write such material when with the Times; he’s a freelancer now and can produce any content he wants that will get picked up. CSN doesn’t have journalistic standards and just want some content on their site, hardly visited outside of us, I’ll wager : )
I like what you guys do, though, JP. I just don’t think major newspapers would go for it, which is too bad for them.

by The Jade Donkey on May 7, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

he did not write such material when with the Times

That’s just factually inaccurate. He has always been critical and analytical in his work.

And CSN doesn’t have journalistic standards? That’s a ridiculous statement (quality of some of their content aside). In fact, as the team’s broadcast partner, I’d think they’d be even less comfortable with being critical of the team (especially with the potential for a rival RSN to form now that Ted owns both teams… but I digress), making Corey’s work all the more noteworthy.

And I’m most certainly not saying major newspapers can or should do what we do (whatever it is that we do).

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, CSN does not have the same standards as the post. Not even close. “How much did that goal mean?”
Where as Corey may have been analytical with the Times, his articles had no where the length that he’s been supplying to CSN. More space means more chance for analysis.

by The Jade Donkey on May 7, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Again…its Tarik’s JOB to manage all that stuff.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

And, now that I think of it, dude doesn’t even do his own link dump. Applebaum does that.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

jade donkey, check out this post by JP as a reference to the subtle differences between TEB and corey.

alternatively, for the more agregious/annoying stuff, go to tylerG’s profile and run a comment search for “TEB.”

here’s my missive on the topic.

by Natty Bumppo on May 7, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Points well taken. If people want to compare writers thats fine, because I’m not interested in pushing one side or the other. But, and this is a big one, journalism is controlled by editors. They decide what goes in and what comes out, and each institution, and each dept editorial staff has their own rules and formats. Therefore, we don’t know how much a beat writer is edited. Now, if JP and others want to say Masisak is better than Tarik, or Tarik is better than Masisak, thats fine, but given that journalism isn’t up to the journalist when talking about large papers like the Post (versus small papers of questionable editorial oversight, like the Times,) it would behoove the writers/bloggers/objectionists to either A) do a journalistic peice that allows the sides to express themselves and make it a feature story, or B) follow journalistic etiqette and not talk smack about other writers, unless those writers are named Wilbon, Kornheiser, Hamilton, or Wise. Those boobs deserve it.
I just get bothered when judgements are passed in loo (sp?) of the facts. I suppose waht rubs me the wrong way is I thought thats what the writing on this blog was about.
I’m certainly not picking any fights with anyone here though. Cool?

by The Jade Donkey on May 7, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

we’re coolyo. although the post does allow other beat writers, i.e. svrluga with the nats a few years ago, plenty of leeway for analysis. especially in their online content.

by Natty Bumppo on May 8, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

No—it’s a fundamental difference between covering a sport as part of a business, and covering a sport because it’s a passion (with a dash of print vs. Web thrown in for hood measure). Tarik has a lot of overhead (going to the games, going to practice, getting the interviews, writing on deadlines, filling out expense reports, etc.) that bloggers just don’t have to deal with. He’s providing much of the raw material that J.P. & co. work with. Plus, a blog can just throw up everything, and let the readers sort for quality on their own. The Post is (in theory) editing things down to the most salient points.

by RPI93 on May 7, 2010 9:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Tarik has a lot of overhead (going to the games, going to practice, getting the interviews, writing on deadlines, filling out expense reports, etc.) that bloggers just don’t have to deal with.

Yeah, the main “overhead” that we have to deal with is, y’know, our real jobs.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

He also can’t be seen as speculating or creating news.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who, that wants legitimacy and respect, can?

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Other tweeters and bloggers freely speculate and create news (i.e., trade rumors).

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do we?

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, we do that for you.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t seen it here, no. The folks here are very quick to jump on any poster that reports news without backup.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sure that huge paycheck you are pulling down from SBN for your efforts helps ease the pain. Oh, wait…

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but the “Mike Green is fat” situation soured me on TEB. I have to admit I’ve never looked at him the same (and I know we love Corey here, but he is guilty as well).

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

for some reason, the caps beat leads to jobs covering the NFL….look for tarik to start writing for profootballtalk.com

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tarik’s a throwback to Bob Fachet. A reporter who actually loves hockey and is happy covering the team. Nichols and La Canfora were just using the Caps to get to their next job.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

i dont have a problem with people wanting to advance. hell, most of us are using our current jobs as a stepping stone for future advancement (in fact, i heard JP is just using this blog as a stepping stone to an MMA blog, “japers octagon”), and going from covering the NHL for the WaPo to the NFL for NFL network or ESPN certainly would be viewed as advancement in the world of many sports journalists. so long as they treat their current beat with respect and do their best cause their readers care about their team and not the writers next gig.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s in part because the Post doesn’t like to keep people on the hockey or baseball beats for too many years because they’re really grueling. That’s part of why Svrluga went from the Nationals to redskins, despite being a baseball guy.

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably b/c she was Rachel Alexander back then (a local girl, too, who attended Churchill High a few years ahead of Halpy, if I’m not mistaken).

Unrelated – Google “Rachel Nichols” and there’s apparently an actress who shares her name and is a wee bit more attractive.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

“Actress” Rachel Nichols is salty!

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Am I the only one that really misses Zednik? I nearly had a panic attack when he took that horrific injury a couple years ago. He was one of my favorite Caps from the black and blue era, was sad to see him bolt to the KHL.

by J.R. Howard on May 7, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t. The guy wore a groove into the ice down to the concrete with his “charge down the right wing, circle around the faceoff dot, and launch the puck into the logo on the goalie’s chest” move.

And folks think Ovechkin has become predicable.

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by ThePeerless on May 7, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well it’s not like I want the current version of him on the Caps right now, but I guess you’re right about him even back then. It’s funny how some players I can only remember the good, and some only the bad. Still, he was an exciting player and I always liked watching him play, regardless if he was friend or foe.

by J.R. Howard on May 7, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fehr

I also think he could’ve been one of better 2nd liners too, at least better than ours.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully we’ll get to test that theory next season.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see how thats possible unless you move Semin to LW or promote Semin to the 1st line. I’d love to Fehr get 15 to 17 TOI.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Semin can certainly play LW and might even prefer it. Only reason he hasn’t lately is b/c Flash can’t play the right side [insert obvious joke here].

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, LW is Semin’s natural position. He also was put on as RW because of double shifting Ovi. I would love to see Semin/"our bright shiny new 2C that isn’t a retread, declining ability, stopgape solution has been/Fehr.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then where does Laich go? I don’t envy GMGM at the moment.

by RPI93 on May 7, 2010 8:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Laich can play RW on the 3rd line. Still play special teams and get his 17 minutes.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Perreault doesn’t pan out then you see Laich centering the 3rd line and promoting a guy like A.Gordon or Bouchard to play RW.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Without doing it or saying it, I’ve traded away Flash.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

We have successfully wished him away.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Playing in Grand Rapids, or Finland perhaps.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think Flash can do better than that. It’s not like he’s Nylander. Even if he is the most expendable of our wingers.

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by CapsFan75 on May 8, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve always wanted to see what a line with both Semin and Fehr would do.

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by CapsFan75 on May 8, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Perreault doesn’t pan out then you see Laich centering the 3rd line and promoting a guy like A.Gordon or Bouchard to play RW.

That’s assuming they won’t resign Belanger which I think is going to happen. They’ve tried the Laich experiment at center and it didn’t work.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously, this was more of a wish thing than an actual thing. I’m hopeful that GMGM see’s it my way. Ha.

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by JSchon on May 7, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t like Laich as a C. I’d rather see Mackan get that chance than Laich. And also, I think BB probably agrees. He gave Laich a very brief look at C before the Flash at C experiment began. And we saw how much longer the Flash-C experiment lasted than the Laich-C experiment.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re implying that Flash-C actually ended?

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh fuck you.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, he’s one of the 3 best GM’s of the year, he’ll figure it out.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 7, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And the rec goes to… BP!

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Laich for 2C!

I’m kidding… maybe. But it would make the top six actually the top six. At least before July 1st.

by J.R. Howard on May 7, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I liked Coach French’s description of Johnny Carlson – called him a riverboat gambler. And Alzner’s playoff beard is pretty epic.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 9:23 AM EDT reply actions  

I thought for a second that read “Johnny Carson”

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know about the rest of you

But I sense today’s rink wrap will be heroic. Much like a playboy shoot, less than 8’s need not apply.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

I hope it if full of a certain gif….

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, definitely. Chimera was pretty awesome this… (checks roster) never mind.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know why I can’t let it go, but I had to pass on this tweet from Bob McKenzie. I’m sure Mike Knuble feels a lot better now.

Darren Dreger reporting now on TSN that NHL concedes last Chi goal last night should have been disallowed due to goalie interference.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 10:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I can’t let it go either. I watched that goal and wondered again at the unfortunate no goal call on incidental skate contact by Knuble. Been in a bad mood about it off an on since that game. That for me was the pivotal, game-changing moment, whether or not the Caps should have ever been in a game 7 position to begin with. The Caps have bad ref luck in game 7s.

by capsyoungguns on May 7, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

First, I think it’s much easier for the league to say a goal shouldn’t count, than to say one should have.

And, second, it’s very easy to admit that a goal shouldn’t have counted when it really didn’t impact the game’s outcome.

It’s hard for me to see the NHL admitting that a goal shouldn’t have counted when that goal either was the GWG or a massive momentum changer.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Exactly. They didn’t really go out on a limb on that one.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

tin foil hat time

Robert L at EOTP in “Habs Success Responsible For Fan Delusion” made note of the curious timeliness and frequency with which Crosby’s sticks seem to break. He suggests that Crosby weakens or starts the fracturing of his stick just before someone, i.e. Hal Gill in the last game, lightly slashes the weakened stick and it breaks leading to Crosby drawing a penalty. Now I’m am most definitely not a conspiracy theorist, but I found the suggested accusation interesting—not so much that I think Crosby is intentionally breaking his sticks but rather that Robert L. wants to sow doubt in the refs minds—that the next time Crosby’s stick breaks at a most opportune time it might be because he had weakened his stick and not because he had been slashed.

The accusation reminds me of Robert L.‘s piece just after our game 2 with the Habs, about how Knuble’s skate interfered with Halak in the crease and that’s why the Caps won the game. I wonder how often he raises these blame-throwing issues so as to plant doubt in the minds of the refs. I do believe that Knuble’s skate got extra ref attention in game 7 with us, that the ref was watching Knuble’s skate to see if there is any contact no matter how inconsequential, thereby leading to the no goal call. Not that it wasn’t the right call, but that in other games, the refs are not necessarily watching the skate of a player near the opposing team’s crease and that type of light skate contact doesn’t usually get seen much less called.

I think Robert L.‘s complaining is to just gets the refs attention, so that the next time Crosby’s stick breaks he hopes the refs won’t be as quick to call a slashing penalty on the hapless Hab player.

by capsyoungguns on May 7, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions  

do you really think the refs or the NHL spend their mornings reading EOTP?

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

nope, they are too busy talking with gary bettman about who he wants to win that nights game. and i think if crosby is weakening his sticks, its to make sure it breaks into pieces when he slams it against the other teams goal post.

i do think the seemingly automatic slash call when someones stick breaks needs to be changed. these sticks break when a guy takes a wrist shot. no reason to expect that contact between sticks should result in a slash call.

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by dcsportsfan1 on May 7, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

No I don’t. I don’t believe it’s a one-to-one causation.

But I do think that making an accusation or slinging mud gets the idea out there. Robert L. helps make noise in the media. He perhaps gets people talking about it. He might get the attention of the team. In our case I recall reading that the Habs organization brought up crease interference with Halak’s skates up with the league officials after that game 2. Maybe Robert L. and the team noticed and fussed about it concurrently. Or maybe the blog and tweets about it got the attention of the team and media so that it was discussed even further.

I never underestimate the power of information/mud-slinging through the media in all of its forms or in other words to change the focus of the debate. It’s a time-old strategy—don’t debate the substance, change the topic, redirect the discussion.

In this case what I found interesting was the pattern—Robert L. made an accusation about why the Caps won game 2. I do think it ultimately could have had an effect on how strictly the crease was called by the refs in subsequent games in our series. But I don’t absolve the Caps of responsibility for getting themselves into that position where calling the game strictly could result in a game changing moment for them.

Now Robert L. makes, in a much more suggestive way but with video, the inference that Crosby is cheating a bit to get his frequent slashing calls. I’ll just watch to see how much chatter results from his blog chatter.

by capsyoungguns on May 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Assuming Crosby uses a one-piece carbon fiber stick, then Robert L should read this comment by D’ohboy. Specifically this line:

Bottom line: Cooke had no idea that his stick was about to break, unless you saw him on the bench with a hacksaw and an electron microscope.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robert L. is an idiot. Sorry for any good will I ruin. But that’s shit he should be above. The game 2 crap was fan bitching at it’s finest. And this is almost as good. First off, Hal Gill slashed the fuck out of Crosby’s stick. No way it wasn’t breaking. Second, you think Crosby (who starts many shifts with a face off) wants to go on the ice with a weakened stick? He scores his goals from around the net and is a beast on the boards. I think he’d rather win a puck battle than take the chance that someone slashes his stick and catches a PIM. It’s just not certain enough that you’ll get the PP if you take a weak stick but it completely makes you useless with the puck. I’ve thought about the possibility that a guy like Matt Cooke would do it, but I don’t think there’s any chance a star (or a guy paid to play with the puck) would do that. Fuck EOTP. Nice historical work, see you in hell.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   3 recs

Check your email in a minute bro

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t tell me what to do.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

;).

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Pens have a terrible PP. Why would Sid want to put it out there more?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m baffled by Robert L. I started reading that site through a link here and really enjoyed the historical pieces. But then I was put off by his recaps of our series with them and thought the game 2 crease clearing accusations silly. He sounded so calm when he was on Japers’ Rink Radio then so irrational in his recaps. It’s almost Janus-like.

I think both accusations are bogus. No way does Crosby breaks or weakens his sticks intentionally. No way too was the incidental skate contact such as that between Halak and Knuble in game 2 and game 7 the reason those goals got past Halak. I thought the call in game 7 was weak—valid in the strictest definition but weak compared to all contact of that nature that is not called. Meh—I’ve got to let it go.

by capsyoungguns on May 7, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

No Beaupre comments?

We used to say “Pobre Beaupre” in a very loud long sad jokey way whenever he got scored on.

Thanks Spanish I

by Icebat on May 7, 2010 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

BB's Demeanor?

From Masisak’s article:

Rationales included how Boudreau’s demeanor changed over the course of the series (something that people noticed last postseason as well) and how that may have affected the team.

I hadn’t heard that, but I’m assuming I missed a thread somewhere. Can anyone point me to it, or an article on it? Thanks.

by vzotsky on May 7, 2010 11:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t have the feeling that Boudreau was the calm in the center of the storm. Just an impression.

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by ThePeerless on May 7, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think what makes Bruce so likeable is that he’s the everyman who wears his heart on his sleeve. I’m more in the camp that wants the head coach to be unmoved behind the bench when stuff happens so seeing him turn red and bang the glass when a goal is scored isn’t for me, but I do enjoy watching him jump up and down when a big goal is scored. Guess you got to take the good with the bad.

by b.orr4 on May 7, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mac Brown’s eyes showed he was absolutely petrified during the game where UT won the National Championship. We kept yelling at the tv for him to put on some sunglasses or else infect his players with his intense fear.

It’s joy I’m so much concerned with as tension, but all things being equal I’d probably prefer a flat businesslike appearance to having players potentially ride your emotional rollercoaster.

by Icebat on May 7, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That became patently obvious when he leapt in joy after the Game 2 win as if he’d just won the Cup and continued throughout the series. But that’s Bruce.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeez, Montreal...

I know this got hashed out pretty good above, but I wanted to register my amazement at Montreal continuing to win with the rope-a-dope. I haven’t been able to bring myself to watch hockey yet, but the recap that I read seemed awfully familiar.

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by fat_daddyo on May 7, 2010 12:07 PM EDT reply actions  

We were watching last night. It was … eerily familiar. Centre Bell was INSANE. The Pens can’t be looking forward to another trip there.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

On another forum I frequent, there’s a terrible Pens fan who delighted so much in the Caps first round exit. Now all he’s saying is “Halak” this and “bad bounces” that. It is rather eerie.

by J.R. Howard on May 7, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny how Pens fans are changing their tune.

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by smutsboy1 on May 7, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Either George McPhee’s been reading the Rink, or I should be GMYNC.

I’ll quote myself (from last Saturday, mind you):

I agree the experience will be good for Varly, and will further his development as a goaltender. I’m skeptical that the cure for what’s ailing Ovi and Sasha is "more hockey", but since they agreed, I wish them all good luck.

On the other hand, the prescription for Brooks Laich is always "more hockey", and I predict he has the most fun of anyone on his summer vacation.

And then go read GMGM’s comments at CI

I’ll be over here, patting myself on the back.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Check out this awesome home theater over at OFB. The A/V dork in me is lusting right now.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it come with a mug?

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only if you can correctly guess how many thousands and thousands of dollars it took to build it. Alternatively, you can win a copy of Miracle on blu-ray to watch in a home theater that is way less awesome.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better “with” than… nevermind… it’s not yet time to go blue.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is that overhead thing a real TV or just photos.

If it’s a real TV then we’re talking significant, significant $$$.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Real TVs. Three 32" flat screens to be exact.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

My guess - an I’m in the midst of a basement renovation right now -

$500,000+ if the room was a shell, including the floor and cabinetry and couches.

AV (as part of the $500K) is easily $100K.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

odd — I’ve been getting those lines through text today and I’m not using the code.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you surround some text with hyphens, it translates to a strike through. It happens a lot when typing +/-.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

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by STLSpidey on May 7, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is also the cost of the framed jerseys around the entire room. I have looked into jersey framing, and it is not cheap at all. I bet framing all those jersey cost more than the TVs.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on May 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know if Universal Sports will be streaming the World Championship online for free like NBC did with the Olympics?

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by Jake Shapiro on May 7, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Picking up on the theme cited above, Pierre LeBrun opines about Sid’s woes against the Habs.

Hard to believe, but Sidney Crosby might be Alex Ovechkin’s greatest ally right now. Confused? The Montreal Canadiens once again shut down the Penguins captain Thursday, evening their series at two games apiece. The longer that trend continues, the less heat, perhaps, Ovechkin will face in the offseason for his struggles against Montreal in the first round. And just imagine, for a second, if the Cinderella Habs pull off back-to-back upsets? If the rival Pens also go down to the same underdog Canadiens, the Caps’ first-round stunner suddenly gets easier to digest if you’re a Washington fan.

Love these deep thinking journos.

http://espn.go.com/nhl/blog//name/nhlplayoffs/id/5170755/five-things-learned-thursday

by cuqui on May 7, 2010 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

It doesn’t make it easier to digest, as much as its that much more gooder to avoid an entire offseason of shit talking from Pens fans.

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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 7, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

no easier to digest, but the schadenfreude right now is really quite awesome.

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

The quotes from players and coaches are also schadenfreude-tastic:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=528381

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tarik tweets:

Jose Theodore just presented Children’s Hospital with a check for 35K from his charity. One of the really good guys in the game.

by cuqui on May 7, 2010 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

photos and more here!

and, yes, absolutely a tremendous guy. I can’t say that enough.

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

So great.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you! and that’s for the twitter shout-out!

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love Jose so much. One of the best guys is right.

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by caps123 on May 7, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t know if you guys have seen, but SBN has a new hockey blog, Puck Worlds run by “saskhab.”

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by red army line on May 7, 2010 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit, I had a comment on this lined up. Its about the IHHF. Didn’t think they needed a whole blog for it but I’ll be reading.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Carter ties it!

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off to overtime, yay.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Germany wins it, 2-1 (OT)

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

not how I had hopes the US would start off :(

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who is playing for USA? Is there a roster link somewhere?

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically Jack Johnson, Dubinsky, Oshie, and a bunch of crap.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Yandle and Okposo are there too. But we won’t medal I don’t think.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well everyone should be missing players, so that helps. And nobody thought we’d medal in the Olympics either!

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still, they didn’t invite several guys that they might should have. Dissapointed in Burke and GMDP

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, it’s hard to say at this point. You don’t know who might have turned it down and who is hiding injuries. I don’t think it makes a lot of sense to sent Suter and the Olympic guys back to the WJC. As GMGM said, what are those guys really getting out of it? They don’t need the experience and they already played in the real thing, why go play for the JV squad? In general the WC aren’t a big deal to me, and especially in an Olympic year. I could care less about it (who is going to try to raise bragging rights over the 2010 WC?) so I’d rather see lots of guys getting experience.

Maybe Carlson (as an example) was invited but the Caps wanted him in HER, I dunno. But I’d be willing to bet that roster wasn’t the first choice for Burke and Poile.

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by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know for sure Suter turned it down. Who knows if Poile asked Legwand.

But yeah, this tournament isn’t real important.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

76,000+ people were in the stadium watching this game.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fine. It’s in Germany and they don’t get many chances to watch these stars play live, but coming on the heels of the Olympics the results are basically meaningless.

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by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Russia ‘should’ coast.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever. Won’t erase the stink from the Olympics. Winning gold in these WC would be almost even more of a joke. I guess losing would really be embarrassing though.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wasn’t really commenting on the legitimacy of a win, more of losing with a squad that has AO, Semin, Kovy, Max, Varly, Tyutin, Grebeshkov would be awful.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So they are taking their Olympic squad to the JV tournament, minus 3-4 key players.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roughly. No Nabby, Datsyuk, or Malkin.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Bryz?

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he declined.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injured.

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by oldemystix on May 8, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dats will go if the Wings wash out of the SCP. The teams can add up to two more players for the second round.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

I don’t know how you do it but you’re a constant stream of pertinent information. Well done.

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Dats will go if he’s healthy probably. Has he ever won a WC Gold? If he goes in time and they win he’ll be 2/3 to Triple Gold. Sochi will be huge.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crosby to Canada? ;)

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by Chris Burton on May 7, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only, except that it sets him up to be the youngest Triple Gold ever, IIRC.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, ick. Double-edged sword. Damoclesian, even.

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

by triple gold do you mean olympics, WCs and WJCs? or olympics, WCs and stanley cup?

by Natty Bumppo on May 7, 2010 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Olympic and WC gold+Stanley Cup.

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by RedBirdie on May 7, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup, this is the meaning of Triple Gold.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 8, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don’t like it. the stanley cup is silver (and nickel). WJCs would’ve made more sense.

by Natty Bumppo on May 8, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I had a similar thought but oh well. Stanley Cup has to be included somehow and Triple Gold is too clever to pass up because of some minor details.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 8, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Canada wins this WC then Corey Perry joins Niedermayer as the only player with a Memorial Cup, WJC, Stanley Cup, Olympic Gold and WC Gold.

As if you needed another reason to root against Canada.

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by Killer_Carlson on May 8, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah that’s a weak squad. Two players from Long Island though! Woot. I can’t believe Kreider made it. That’s a huge surprise. I wonder why they picked him specifically and what other options there were.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

How to backcheck like a Selke finalist

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Err, wrong link. Here’s the right one.

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by J.P. on May 7, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha. That’s great work. I love how Richards makes two huge errors on the play. First going for the big hit when you are covering for a D (I don’t care that BSH wants to give him the benefit of the doubt; it’s fair and we’d probably do the same thing for our guy, but you just don’t pinch back in when you are a forward covering for a D. The hit is sexy, but the 0-3 hole is the reason you don’t go for it), and then absolutely refusing to put any hustle into getting back into the play after the hit. He’s at least got to know he’ll be out of position when he throws that hit so he should already be thinking “bust my ass to get back in position” after the hit. He clearly wasn’t, and now PHI is done. If only Kreijci wasn’t done for the year it would probably be my favorite PHI play of the season.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Pronger is slooooooooow. Look how far it long it takes him to make the pivot to go for the loose puck, basically half the neutral zone. That puck is closer to Pronger than Lucic and Lucic still won the puck race. Incredible. Lucic ain’t exactly known for his fleet feet.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Geoff actually was pretty harsh on Richards throughout that entire post. He gave him the benefit of the doubt for about a split second, but ultimately was quite harsh on him.

Personally, I blame Richards for the entire sequence.

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by Travis Hughes on May 7, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think not blaming him for stepping up on the hit is the one place I disagree. I’m not saying he took it easy on him; obviously the whole post was directed at Richards. I think it’s just an example of giving your own guy the benefit of the doubt, and I don’t have any problem with that.

I guess it could also be just a fundamental difference in how we want our guys to play. I’m not sure if you’ve caught enough of my comments to be aware, but running out of position to make a hit is one of the things I hate the most; and that goes doubly when you are a forward covering for a D already.

I waited all year for this?

by Rob Parker on May 7, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hershey update
Junior eligible Dmitry Kugryshev, still bothered by a back injury suffered this season with Quebec (QMJHL), didn’t practice. The forward may soon be sent home for the season.

"I think so," French said. "A bit of an upper-body injury. It will be Washington’s call, but he’s had a hard time getting on the ice. We’ll see how that transpires."

:(

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Also
Caps pro scout Jason Fitzsimmons scouted Games 3 and 4 of the Manchester-Worcester series. "That was really nice of him to do that," French said. "I think we’re prepared."

by EmilyB on May 7, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mr. Leonsis is taking down the WNBA Attendance Banners

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