2009-10 Rink Wrap: Quintin Laing
From Alzner to Varlamov, we're taking a look at and grading (please read the criteria below) the 2009-10 season for every player who laced 'em up for the Caps for a significant number of games during the campaign, with an eye towards 2010-11. Next up, Quintin Laing.
Key Stat: At 30-years-old, Laing spent the entirety of the 2009-10 campaign in the NHL (with the exception of a brief conditioning stint), the first time he has done so in his career.
Interesting Stat: Both of Laing's goals came in the third period of tied games.
The Good: Laing doubled his single-season career high in goals in 2009-10 and he was well-disciplined (taking only one minor penalty in 36 games other than the instigator and unsportsmanlike conduct he received in St. Louis - more on that in a bit), but the real "good" for Quintin Laing starts and ends with his willingness to sacrifice his body for the team. Perfect example of that selflessness from this past season? Dropping the mittens in defense of Matt Bradley after Cam Janssen ran the Caps winger less than two months after missing 14 games with a broken jaw suffered while blocking a shot. Laing also had the most hits-per-minute of any player on the team - yes, more than Alex Ovechkin.
The Bad: Laing's offensive contributions continue to be almost non-existent (Jose Theodore had as many assists on the season), as Q had the fewest points-per-minute and the worst shooting percentage of any Cap forward. His ice time was minimal (he didn't top ten minutes in any game after December 26), and, most disappointing of all, Laing was a terrible penalty killer.
The Vote: Rate Laing below on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the best) based on his performance relative to his potential and your expectations for the season - if he had the best year you could have imagined him having, give him a 10; if he more or less played as you expected he would, give him a 5 or a 6; if he had the worst year you could have imagined him having, give him a 1.
The Discussion: Should there be a spot on the 2010-11 Washington Capitals' roster for Quintin Laing? What will it take for him to earn a 10 next season?
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Rate Laing below on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the best) based on his performance relative to his potential and your expectations for the season – if he had the best year you could have imagined him having, give him a 10; if he more or less played as you expected he would, give him a 5 or a 6; if he had the worst year you could have imagined him having, give him a 1.
by EmilyB on May 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
It’s a reminder that people actually need to read the criteria before voting.
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by Bald Pollack on May 24, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Not everyone reads/votes in all of them, and new people could join in along the way. (And there’s no hope for some people, too.)
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by gfcaps fan on May 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s the NHL Green Initiative.
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by gfcaps fan on May 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Work is boring, so when I glanced at the clock and saw 10:58 I decided I would read this right at 11.
I gave him a 3. The bad PK numbers did him in for me. Also, whether or not he has the capability, I want more offense from anyone fit enough to make the NHL roster. So in my mind, he is not worth a roster spot next year (except as insurance or a situational call-up).
A 10 for next year would be playing a vast majority of games with 10+ minutes of ice time, scoring a half dozen goals, and being a leader on the PK.
A 10? I don’t see it happening but if he was on the NHL squad all year and actually played 90%+ of the games he was healthy and wasn’t a liability every shift I’d probably consider that a 10. I just don’t see it though. He’s slow, aging, and has a lot of miles on those bones. I’m not even sure he makes sense as a 14F. Even the minimal money we would commit to him is probably too much.
I waited all year for this?
Hurts me to do this, but 3.
Basically what I expected was better penalty killing and more blocked shots. IIRC last season he had more than a blocked shot per game and finished in the top-10 in the league, or was that 2007-2008? Two blocks on Malkin on a PIT 5-on-3 in OT in Jan 2008 stand out to me especially.
And since he hasn’t got much more than that, I took out a hefty chunk from his score.
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Should there be a spot on the 2010-11 Washington Capitals’ roster for Quintin Laing?
I think he at least deserves a shot again. If he’s blocking two shots per game then there is plenty of value there. But he should not be a regular and should not be in the playoff lineup. The competition is too fast and too skilled.
What will it take for him to earn a 10 next season?
A regular on the roster. Simply being on the “third” line will get a 10, but on the 4th, maybe 5 goals, 10 points, 120ish blocked shots. Tough to tell, since playing well aside from getting a serious but not life-threatening yet season-ending (knock knock) injury while blocking a shot would do it for me too.
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by red army line on May 24, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
2 shots a game doesn’t justify a roster spot to me. That’s a negligible impact on a game. I’d rather give the roster spot to someone that will make better use of it. I’d really like to give a look to some of the HER guys. I’m sure Beagle is a better NHL choice than Q right now.
I waited all year for this?
Meh. 2 shots in 8 mins of ice time or whatever sounds good to me.
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by red army line on May 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that the most you can envision us getting from a 4W? Boyd would bring better PK and some FO skill (and is a much better skater and puck handler). Bradley is a much better player. I think Beagle and/or A-Gord could also out-perform Q. I just don’t think 2 blocks a game earns a spot on this team; especially considering shot blocks isn’t even positively correlated to winning.
I waited all year for this?
No, but it sounds like a decent, cheap 14F to me.
I think he at least deserves a shot again. If he’s blocking two shots per game then there is plenty of value there. But he should not be a regular and should not be in the playoff lineup.
(emphasis added)
For 500k, he’s serviceable in stretches as a bottom liner. I mean, I’d rather have him than Alexandre Giroux.
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by red army line on May 24, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather carry 13F and bring up guys from HER to take a look when we need replacements. I don’t see Q playing any role on this team.
I waited all year for this?
Fair enough. I’m probably a bit optimistic about what the cap picture will look like come the fall as it is.
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by red army line on May 24, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
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If he’s blocking two shots a game, one of them was probably going to miss the net, he’s getting too much ice time. Good for Q that he was paid like an NHL player for a year, but if there was ever a guy in the NHL that made me say “If I didn’t care about my body, I could do that” it’s Q.
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I absolutely love the guy, and would have him on my team any day, but he’s just not an NHL forward.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 24, 2010 11:17 AM EDT reply actions
Life isn’t fair. You put a teaspoon of this guy’s heart and grit on more than a few other Caps, and the Caps are skating around Verizon Center with a silver cup later this spring. But the things he does are a narrow slice of what he has to do to keep a job at this level on a contending team. Do you keep him over a Boyd Gordon? An Andrew Gordon, for that matter (who is an RFA himself)? That’s a hard sell to make.
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by ThePeerless on May 24, 2010 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
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ton of heart, but just not an NHL caliber forward on a contender. got a 7 from me as i can not believe he actually stayed up the entire season even though he never dressed. with his shot blocking i wonder why nothing has ever been made of giving him a whirl on D…sadly he will never crack the top 12 here
I don’t think he’s anywhere near a good enough skater to play D in the NHL and further we have two (+) top tier prospects on defense we couldn’t get into the lineup this year till much later on in the season. Also it’s far easier to turn a D into a forward than the other way around, this league requires a special kind of hockey sense and ability to play defense effectively, and all but a tiny group of spectacularly gifted forwards will fail miserably at that idea. (Feds is one in a million that way)
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Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 24, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
4.
I knew the guy couldn’t skate very well, so I didn’t expect much on that front. I also knew that his style of play exposed him to a lot of injuries – you block that many pieces of rubber flying that quickly and the injuries are going to accumulate and the player is going to miss games (Kind of like a particular Russian D some are lusting after).
However, I also expected Q to PK better than he did, based on what it looked like his role was going into the season. He was an outright disaster in that role, at least partially because he can’t skate at an acceptable NHL level. Heart only takes you so far and while Q gets full marks for that (and a bonus to compensate for a spleen), I was expecting more. Two steps faster on his skates and he’s a career NHL grinder with a steady job. Sadly, he doesn’t have those two steps.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 24, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions
With respect to:
The Discussion: Should there be a spot on the 2010-11 Washington Capitals’ roster for Quintin Laing? What will it take for him to earn a 10 next season?
I can’t see a team that wants to contend for a cup icing a roster with Q on it regularly. There are other grinders that can be had for a similar price that bring more to the squad every single year, often free on the wire. Blair Betts is the prime example this season, a legit PKing center who can fly and take a regular shift on the fourth line. He brings all of the benefits that Laing does, with almost none of the liabilities and slightly more offense. All for about the same price.
Sorry Q, I love your heart and your character, but I don’t see a spot for you on next year’s Washington Capitals.
To earn a 10, Q would have to take a regular shift on the 4th line, chip in some offense (~15 points), improve either his positioning or his speed so that the team has better puck possession with him on the ice.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
4 as well
Did what I expected, but it looked like teams figured out that Q’s shot blocking was the only thing he had, too many times a D would fake a shot, get Q to commit and then waltz in and get a clear shot on goal.
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100% of Laing’s career goals have been game-winners or have come in the third period with the game tied. Can’t teach that kind of clutch. Ninth most valuable Cap.
That said, he gets a 4 from me, largely because of the PKing and no real corresponding positive to fully offset the disaster he was there.
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He just doesn’t have the speed or athleticism to cover that much ice 5 on 4.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
100% of Laing’s career goals have been game-winners or have come in the third period with the game tied. Can’t teach that kind of clutch. Ninth most valuable Cap.
Hmmm. That appears to be snark (how text appears to be snark I don’t know, but it just does), yet the following “That being said” then makes me think it’s not. Color me confused. If no snark, It’s hard to say that 2 goals in a season (no matter how important they may have been) can make a player clutch. In my book you need to score often enough that the “clutch” goals cant be simply dismissed as luck (which is my sense of his goals).
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 24, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah, I was on the scent of snark, but couldn’t completely sniff it out. What does snark smell like? Gotta figure. B.S., right?
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 24, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Gave him a 6. He was pretty much what I expected with perhaps even a teensy bit more heart this year than any other, even with the drop in blocked shots. Plus, you can’t argue with those goals.
by DrinkingPartner on May 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions
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The fact that he stuck 36 games with the big club blew away my expectations for him. Laing is not an NHL-caliber player, but I love the fact that some of our softer players have to look down the bench and ask themselves: “Why the hell does he have a jersey? Oh, because he blocks shots with his face and has bigger balls than I could ever wish to have.”
So my brother ran into ShaMo and Laich at Front Page in late March. He wished them "good luck" for the upcoming playoffs. When he told me this story I got really pissed and blurted: "You wished THEM luck?!? They need to wish us fans luck for the excruciating way they'll manage to break our hearts this spring." They didn't disappoint.
Yeah, the Caps’ softer players really strike me as a self-aware/introspective bunch.
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by J.P. on May 24, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
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Actually staying up with the team all year was surprising, but then the PKing brought him crashing back down below expections.
I don’t think he should be the caps “spare part” next year, that role should go to younger players. So, no role for him here next season.
Damn, sounds like he should’ve gotten a higher score from you, then.
by DrinkingPartner on May 24, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i’m sure i’m not the only one for a soft spot for guys like Q. and i’m sure what he brings to the club is measured more by what happens at ketter vs. VC.
i was a bit surprised to see his pk stats were as poor as they were, and also surprised to see how little pk time he actually got, averaging about 1 1/2 min per game. i suppose there is some correlation there. oddly enough, in an early season game against nashville, he had over 5 of the 8 minutes of total pk time, with no goals against. all downhill from there i suppose.
he gets a slightly below average from me given the pk stats. he is was i thought he would be except for that. would love to see him stick around next year, but clearly he would be a spare part. i’m assuming he could be resigned for close to the $500K he made last year. if that was the case, at least he would be cheaper than most of the young guys who could come up and take his place.
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Meh.
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I can’t get past the notion that guys like Brooks Laich and Matt Bradley were so effusive in their praise of Laing after he took a haymaker in the jaw. That kind of example has to be an intangible plus in the locker room. On numbers alone, he probably gets a 3. His skill set just isn’t going to elevate him above the margins of being an NHL player. But he is a player who is more than his numbers.
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5
Low goal total, low assists total, not much in terms of minutes, a weird injury, willing to work his butt off to get what ice he can get, accepts his situation as a professional, stands up for teammates, good in the community.
Exactly what I expected, hence a 5.
To get a 10, score twice in the next season to break a tie in the 3rd and have at least one of the goals be game winners. That he broke 2 ties in the 3rd is nice, but the Caps couldn’t hold the opponent of the scoreboard afterwards isn’t good.
Also let’s hope for a season without some weird injury or [Gretzky]-ing Swine Flu, or something like that.
Is there a spot for him on the Caps in 2010-11. Part of me wishes there were, because you know the guy is busting a gut (literally in some cases) to do whatever he can to help the team, but at the same time, I am hoping there are 14-15 forwards in the organization who are better than Laing, in which case he would be best served to play somewhere else…
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5
to paraphrase Dennis Green
He is who we thought he was.
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by Sombrero Guy on May 24, 2010 3:18 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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Didn’t really expect too much, but the horrible PK numbers should be better. I expected him to play a little more than he did (not necessarily his fault). Lots of heart, as always.
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As expected, minus 1 for not having a standing ovation moment (as against colorado 2 seasons ago), plus one for blocking a shot with his face. Like everyone else I love his work ethic and attitude, but don’t see a role for him next year.
by RPI93 on May 24, 2010 8:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
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He is what he is, and thats not all bad. He doesn’t make many mistakes out there, so he has that going in his favor, along with the warrior attitude and dedication to putting his body on the line.
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