Capitals Re-Sign Backstrom
by Becca H on May 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT
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PrintPer Tarik, the Capitals have re-signed Nicklas Backstrom to a ten year, $67 million contract extension.
Update: Via Capitals Insider, Backstrom's deal will pay $6 million per year for the first four years, then escalate as follows: $6.5 million for two, $7 million for one, $7.5 million for two and $8 million in the final year.
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I believe they think they have one already. He was wearing #90. Not sure I agree for the coming season. We’ll see.
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by Carl Putnam on May 17, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
MP, not ready for 2C, may never be that kind of player. At most I’d have him at 3C next year.
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by Carl Putnam on May 17, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
The numbers he put up in juniors imply that he’s definitely capable of being that kind of player.
do the numbers imply that, or are you inferring that?
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by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He said juniors, not AHL.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
so be it.
Michel Brière Memorial Trophy
Jean Béliveau Trophy
Telus Cup
needless to say, much better company on those lists.
related: the Q gives out a TON of trophies. they give out plaques to the leaders in plus/minus and faceoff percentage, and they give a trophy to the team with the lowest GAA.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Natty, I didn’t mean he’s going to hit those numbers again. I’m just saying they show that he has the skill set to be a scoring center. I know previous success doesn’t always translate to NHL success, but I think they show what that player’s ceiling/style can be.
by Mobsky on May 17, 2010 8:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
MP3C splitting time with Belanger or some other donk that they sign until they trade for a proper 2C at the deadline?
Calder Cup gon' get Perreaultwned
Then they better trade for one at the draft, because I don’t think there’s anybody in the system that’s going to fit the bill well enough right now.
Calder Cup gon' get Perreaultwned
I agree. I’m on the Patrick Sharp or Matthew Lombardi train. I just think Lombardi might be too expensive and might not be quite enough of what we need. Sharp is ideal.
I waited all year for this?
I’d be high-fiving and throwing roundhouse kicks if we landed him.
Calder Cup gon' get Perreaultwned
So I should offer the high-five and then duck? Or are those two celebrations distinct from one another?
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I’d love to ride either one of those trains…wait, what?
Seriously, though, two more of my favorite non-Caps. I’d love to have either one. Think we can trick Chicago into taking Flash and Bourque for Sharp?
I don’t think there is much chance of us trading Flash or CBo for anything of much value, especially not Sharp.
I waited all year for this?
If that is all it would take to get Sharp there would be a line 29 deep in front of the United Center.
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Exactly. Can you really imagine another GM not offering something more than Flash and CBo? They’ll get at least a first round pick. Maybe Flash + 1st + CBo starts the discussion. But I don’t think they want CBo. Everyone had a chance at him. I’d think a 1st + Flash + Bouchard/Orlov is more likely to draw some interest.
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Sharp’s the better PKer, if I recall. And you kind of need PK help.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m at the point where I don’t think personnel is the problem with our PK. Sure, Sharp is very good at it, but he won’t be the solution.
I waited all year for this?
True. But he is very good at it.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. I’m a huge Sharp fanboy. All 3 F positions, all 3 phases, and has been a stud for them in the playoffs. What’s not to like?
I waited all year for this?
If not PK better, than maybe more SHG? Sharp can bring that.
And I need two hands to count how many clutch plays I’ve seen him make resulting in playoff goals over the past two seasons.
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Sharp would be awesome, but after the postseason he’s having for Chicago, I’m not sure they’d trade him…despite their impending salary cap issues next season.
He would be super ideal, though. 3.9 cap hit is not bad at all for the caliber of player he is.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
His contract is a steal. It’s not about “want to trade” for CHI. They just have to do it. Buff is having a great post-season and even Bolland is playing the pest 3C role perfectly. They just can’t afford all of them.
I waited all year for this?
It’s true, they can’t. But in talking to Hawks fans who should be more plugged into the situation than I am, I just don’t see them trading him. Buff’s postseason may make it more likely they could find a taker for him (since, realistically, is he going to put up numbers like these again? Someone could overvalue him), I could see them trying to trade Versteeg first as well. Sharp is just too versatile and good to be traded, IMO.
But man, Chicago has some awful contracts over there. Maybe Sharp can be had. And if the Caps can get him, it would fill a huge hole.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If they keep Sharp it basically means they lose everyone else. He’s the most expensive guy, is on the best relative contract, and so will have the most interest. Considering how many calls they get for Sharp I’d be shocked if they can keep him.
Buff had an awesome playoffs last year and this year and is the exact kind of guy lots of teams need to round out their F corps.
I waited all year for this?
To add to this, Chicago is about $800K over this year’s cap for 2010-2011, and they have 14 players under contract, including 1 goalie (Huet).
They flat out HAVE to unload some salary, just in order to be able to dress 20 players next year.
Of the guys that are under contract, Huet and Campbell are untradeable because of their contracts and skill levels. Toews and Kane are the future. Kopecky and Brower don’t get enough salary off the books by themselves, although they could be complementary salary dumps.
That leaves the following candidates to be moved: Hossa, Sharp, Bolland, Versteeg and Buff, and Keith, Seabrook and Sopel. And I hightly doubt they’d trade Keith, or only as a last resort.
Doing a bit of quick math, I figure the Hawks need to clear about 6-7 million in cap space. That would allow them to add the 7-8 cheap bodies they need (6 players to dress, plus a 7th D plus a 13th F).
Sharp and Buff have the most tradeable contracts out of that bunch.
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Hossa isn’t going anywhere, neither is Keith. Scratch those out.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. I wrote words to that effect several times, but ended up leaving them on the “possibles” list, becuase I figured they’d do it as a last resort.
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reading this brightened my dreary Monday. $800k over the Caps with only 14 players. How they heck do you screw up that badly?
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Problem is there was no reason to do what they did. They could be in almost the same position developmentally as a team and be in a much better cap situation.
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No Hossa, but if they don’t sign Huet to that ridiculous deal they’d have had room for a vet free agent winger.
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Huet is the obvious giant blunder. At least Campbell is helping them. 5 mill for a backup goalie is brutal.
I waited all year for this?
5 mil for an average goalie is brutal much less a guy who is now backup. One of these days GM’s are going to wake up and realize that they are overpaying a fair number of netminders.
Also, meant to say they’d also have needed to make another trade or two before this season to sump a little more salary. I still think the core of that team would have been fine.
Losing Buff, if they do this offseason, is going to hurt them more than some realize. he won’t hurt as much as Sharp, but not far behind. Those 2 along with Toews are the engines that drive the machine when its crunch time.
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Doing a bit of quick math, I figure the Hawks need to clear about 6-7 million in cap space. That would allow them to add the 7-8 cheap bodies they need (6 players to dress, plus a 7th D plus a 13th F).
This is where I started my analysis. And you see 6-7 and think they can do it by moving two guys. But that adds 2 guys to the “needs” list, so they’d have the 6 mill in cap space, but they’d be down to 12 players. 6 mill to fill 10 roster spots including re-signing Niemi is not going to happen. So you need to open at least another 3. So now they are down to 11 signed, with about 9 mill in cap space. That might be doable, but means they are filling the ranks with 850K players and not bringing back guys like Ladd and Hjalmarsson (FA sheet, anyone?). So it looks, to me, like moving 3 guys (at least 9-10 mill) is the absolute least they can get away with. Sopel is gone, but that means 2-3 of the rest of that group goes as well. At least. Hossa and Keith are off the table. They didn’t sign those deals just to move them in one year.
I waited all year for this?
Very good points. Sopel, Buff and Sharp would do it, and I can’t really see any other way to get it done.
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Also in there are some of their RFAs who they have to keep, and give raises to. Niemi, of course, is the big one. Especially if he keeps up his level of play in the playoffs. He’ll be in line for a decent raise. And I really don’t see them letting Hjalmarsson go. As a matter of fact, I could see them trading Seabrook (who I think is overrated and helped by playing with Keith), and plugging Hjalmarsson in next to him on the top pairing. That would open up a little cap room, but Hjalmarsson is due a raise too, as an RFA.
Chicago is in pretty dire straits after this season is over.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s a solution:
Team 1: Chicago Black (north)
Team 2: Chicago Hawks (south)
They merge for all 82 games, but each “win” is a half win. A Cup is a half-Cup.
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
GENIUS!
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by Chuckles Canuckles on May 18, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I imagine Sharp is the very last guy they want to offload. on the other hand, I can’t see many Versteeg takers.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. They want people to take Huet and probably Campbell. But the other teams aren’t going to offer anything for those guys, and won’t offer a ton for the other available guys.
Bolland is a nice player, but overpaid for what he brings right now. You might gamble that he’ll be a solid 2C down the line, but CHI has no leverage so why would you overpay for him?
Buff is tempting, but inconsistent and has had some commitment questions. Again, he could be a nice gamble, but why overpay when their backs are against the wall? Plus, he already makes 3 and is set for a new deal after next year. He’s not going to be cheap, especially if he comes close to potential.
Versteeg was in Q’s doghouse most of the year, though he has a decent all around skill set and has been good in the playoffs. The QO fiasco means his salary curve is way higher than it should be so you’re going to have to pay even more to keep him long-term. Who is going to offer a golden package for a guy that is less cost-controlled and all too familiar with the Chateau Bow Wow?
Seabrook is a stud, as well. I’m sure people want him, but CHI doesn’t really want to move him either. So basically Sharp and Seabrook have by far the best trade value, and open up the most cap space. I just don’t see how CHI manages to keep both of those guys unless someone throws them a lifeline and takes Huet or Campbell. And if some dumbass GM does take those guys, I’ll be real pissed.
I waited all year for this?
Huet and Campbell are awful contracts. But there’s also plenty of awful GMs out there who could be willing to take on those contracts and bail Chicago out. I sure hope not, but we’ll see.
It’s a very good point that Sharp is their best trade asset. It’s probably why I have such a hard time seeing them move him. But, if push comes to shove, they may be forced to in the end…and there will be plenty of takers.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
there’s also plenty of awful GMs out there who could be willing to take on those contracts
Waddell, Sather and Sutter all wave hello from their (current) places of employment.
I can see a team like Atlanta taking on Versteeg. They need a young core, and he’s flashy plus good on the power play. I can also see the Thrash taking Bolland, or maybe the Oilers.
Those guys aren’t the real cap eaters, though, and it comes down to the harsh fact that Seabrook and Sharp are worth a lot more to Chicago’s Cup chances than they are to another team, which means they likely wouldn’t get good value.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends what you mean by good value. If you think they are going to bend someone over, no. But they won’t be completely ripped off either. I’d be willing to bet they do better than BOS did with Thornton or OTT did with Heatley.
I waited all year for this?
Maybe, I just don’t think they can get a fair return for a guy like Sharp who is, along with Seabrook, the glue in Chicago. Atlanta, as an example, is going to send a pick and prospects at best which leaves the Hawks with no choice because he’s got to go regardless.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Pick and prospects is vague. How badly do you see CHI getting taken advantage of? What is the return you envision?
I waited all year for this?
I don’t know the Thrashers farm real well, them being in the East, so I’ll use what the Predators could send as far as value.
I’d send Chicago Cal O’Reilly and a 2nd. I think. Off the top of my head, anyway.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And you would promptly be laughed at. Right in your face.
That might, might, open discussions for Versteeg. Sharp is going to cost a First or a high-end prospect. Seabrook, even more.
I waited all year for this?
See, thats what I’m saying. I don’t see how Sharp’s value is going to translate from Chicago to the rest of the NHL.
Also, I don’t think we’re on the same page as far as Versteeg’s value. At all.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He was a Calder finalist, right? He has some good value. I think you’re undervaluing him, but just a bit.
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he has good value, but not as much as F/B says. No way I trade more than O’Reilly/2nd to get him. We traded a 2nd for Grebeshkov who’s PP numbers are right beside Brian Campbell’s.
He shouldn’t have been a Calder finalist. Don’t get me started. Sore subject.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know much about O’Reilly but Versteeg is young, NHL-proven, and has been used in all 3 phases for the ’Hawks.
I don’t see why Sharp’s value wouldn’t translate. Who doesn’t need a guy that can play all over the ice and bring intangibles all while being paid 3.9 on the cap?
I waited all year for this?
Sharp does absolutely everything for the Blackhawks, and well. He’s also part of the leadership core. Its almost impossible to replicate that in a trade, but thus is the nature of trades.
I just remembered we’re paying Martin Erat 4.5 and Sharp gets 3.9. DAMMIT POILE
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Sharp does absolutely everything for the Blackhawks, and well. He’s also part of the leadership core.
So I ask again, who doesn’t need that kind of player? Will he suddenly not be versatile or not be a good locker room guy somewhere else?
I waited all year for this?
No, I just don’t think Chicago can get back close to what Sharp is doing for them, now or in the future, is all. They won’t get fleeced but any trade for him is going to leave a big hole.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh ok. Big miscommunication. Obviously they are not going to replace him in the short term, but they are going to demand high picks/prospects so they have solid ELC contribution going forward.
I waited all year for this?
Yeah. Its kinda like the car that works really well for you and does everything you need but gets totaled and insurance mails you a check for 3K.
(sorry, most relevant analogy for me attm)
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s fine, but if you think Cal O’Reilly and a 2 is getting it done you’re crazy. Just ask yourself “will another GM offer more?” How can you answer no? It might not be enough to really replace Sharp for CHI, but it’ll damn sure be more than O’Reilly/2. You’re talking about one of your D prospects if you want Sharp, not a throwaway F prospect.
I waited all year for this?
O’Reilly’s definitely not a throwaway F. He’s projected as a 2C pretty much everywhere (whether he gets there or not is another story), has been the best player on our AHL team for ages. He just can’t make the team here because Trotz doesn’t like him, or something.
I’d be fine with trading a top D prospect/2nd for Sharp. Not Blum or Ellis, but definitely Olivier-Roussel or Josi.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m still pretty sure you’re going to need to give up a first to get Sharp. Someone will be willing to part with a 1st in order to get a player with the skills/cap hit that Sharp provides.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Could well be. Sharp might make a good captain in a place that needs one (or will soon, like Edmonton).
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. It probably won’t be Poile, because Sharp is a forward, but someone will pay for him.
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by Rob Parker on May 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Truth hurts. So bad.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
You can love O’Reilly all you want but the fact is he was drafted in 2005 and still hasn’t cracked the NHL. That’s not the kind of young, impact player CHI is going to want in return.
I waited all year for this?
I’m not particularly a fan of his, just saying.
Depends on what you mean by ‘cracked’, but you’re right. He won’t make the team here, I don’t think. Theoretically he should be better than Wilson right now but he just isn’t.
Upon further thinking, I might send Josi/O’Reilly/2nd for Sharp. Maybe. But that’d be overpayment for Versteeg.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on Sharp costing a first. That will be the starting point. Then something for the farm as well, or a low salary kid who they can plug in on their 3rd or 4th line. Someone will at least pay that.
And even then, they’re getting jobbed. But with the salary cap position they will be in, they won’t have much room to work with. GMs will know the score. They will know that Chicago HAS to make trades, and therefore will hold out for a better deal.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
They will know that Chicago HAS to make trades, and therefore will hold out for a better deal.
But how long can you hold out? CHI has like 7 guys they could move, and you figure there will be plenty of trading partners. If you try to sit on a 2/O’Reilly for Sharp you’ll just get out-bidded. As much as CHI is up against a wall, they still have a lot of options. It’s not like OTT with Heatley last summer.
I waited all year for this?
Well, you hold out as long as you need to in order to give up what you believe you can. I don’t think there will be a GM out there who will say “I have to have Sharp at whatever the cost.” They will set a price, maybe lowball it at first. And if someone comes in with a price you can’t meet, well, it happens. Chicago will have options, but they also HAVE to trade…and I think that fact will lead to lower trade values and such. I mean, it’ll have to be a first, but it definately won’t be a good deal for Chicago.
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by ZeroIndulgence on May 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You can have Arnott.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Pfft, Arnott’s worth more than that.
He’ll retire here though. Lots of talk about trading Dumont before the draft these days. Want him? :P
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Trade Flash for Zamboni tires. You all got that Bridgestone sponsorship, I know you’re good for it.
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I’d take that deal.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re not going to find a proper 2C at the deadline.
In general I’m becoming less of a fan of deadline trades unless they are depth/complementary players. Too much of a chemistry mix up so late in the season. May have been good when we were a marginal playoff team, but now the goal is to be ready for the post-season and too many deadline deals do not help that.
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agreed, though Pitt’s deadline last season netted them ‘first line’ wingers in Guerin and Kunitz, and a Cup.
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It’s tricky, because a lot of teams make deadline deals. Only one of them wins the Cup.
I actually thought the Pens were crazy to make any of the moves they’ve made in the last two years; last year I was wrong, this year I was right. But I wasn’t right because I’m smart, that’s for sure :P It’s so the luck of the draw.
I’m on board with your thought that luck has a ton to do with winning a Cup, but Shero earned his stripes in dealing dust for Guerin, who was exactly the kind of player Crosby needed as a complimentary linemate. Launching an underperforming Whitney (not to mention Therrien) and you could say that Pitt made their own luck last year.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
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I’d think AntonGuss would have a better shot at 2C before MC90. Perreault was great in bursts but couldn’t sustain that play…I’m skeptical about him.
by PureAgression on May 17, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
AnGus, he of the serious recurring back injuries?
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Put him on the Eric Fehr rehab plan…or get him on the Yoga. Then he’ll be fine.
by PureAgression on May 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
different back injuries. Anton has a slipped disc, Eric’s was a muscle issue, iirc.
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Fehr was a herniated disc. IIRC they thought it was recurring muscle issues for a while, before realize the real problem and properly treating it.
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Those disc injuries are always so touchy, good to see that Fehr seems to have fully recovered. I know too many people that have lingering issues.
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No way. He’s behind Marcus from a development standpoint from everything I’ve seen and read.
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by Carl Putnam on May 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Perreault was great in bursts but couldn’t sustain that play…
I believe that’s called the learning curve. He hasn’t hit his ceiling.
Choking since 1985.
MP is young, he might be the Capitals’ “Small Forward” now that the MSM says that’s why Montreal and Philly are winning…LOL
by markbona-capsfan99 on May 17, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I can get my jersey now.
Know Don Cherry, No Win. No Don Cherry, Know Win.
by M-M-M-My Chimera on May 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions
Oh ye of little faith. I ordered my Backstrom jersey six weeks ago and at arrived on Thursday.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
What took you so long? Christmas 2007.
Calder Cup gon' get Perreaultwned
by jordanDC on May 17, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
surely it’s arrival on Thursday was a sign from the hockey gods.
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That’s what I was thinking. That very day rumors started going around about 10 years/69 million.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on May 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I got mine at Christmas I was so sure he would remain on this team.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome to the club.
Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...
by Smoltz's Beard on May 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
FLYGPLATS!!!!!!
That is what we’re supposed to yell, right?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
can we throw weagle confetti?
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First time I"ve wanted to do that in weeks!!! WOOHOO!!!!
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on May 17, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
10 years!
Already wrote to Ted to tell him the Caps are going to be horrible in 2022 and I will not renew my season tickets that year.
by Stormblue on May 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
LA with Malkin.
Hey let's go, today is going to be our night
by redlineblue on May 17, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
We can only hope Marcus Johansson scores as clutch a goal a former #90 did for the Caps.
by freakinandpeakin on May 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions
My feelings right now: YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(also, my Backstrom jersey better hold up for another 10 years)
by unleashthefury on May 17, 2010 10:42 AM EDT reply actions
Just an FYI, to keep things nice and organized (in my anal retentive way), feel free to discuss the Backstrom signing here and the Johansson signing HERE. Merci, gracias and thanks :)
Fan-freaking-tastic!!!
Ovie and Backs together forever. Semin gets moved at next year’s deadline for whatever the immediate need is for the playoff run and the following year the team core of Ovie, Backs, Green, Varly/Neuvy/Holtby is in place and the parts can be added. It may be Monday and raining but today is a good day.
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by Lunatic Fringe on May 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions
at next year’s deadline for whatever the immediate need is for the playoff run
not holding my breath.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d be stunned if Semin moved as a deadline move. They’ll keep him onboard for the new, improved big push.
They need to either move him during the offseason to maximize return, or keep him for the year.
You had me at no problem.
I think if he has another regular season like he did this year his trade value will only go up (and help to erase memories of no showing for the playoffs). Caps could get someone in return that has years left on the contract vs. a rental. Moving him now in the offseason does not maximize the return on his $6mil contract. Get 25 goals out of him before deadline (worth $3-$3.5 million to the Caps) and trade at deadline. Offense is not what the Caps will need next playoffs, with or without Semin on the roster.
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by Lunatic Fringe on May 17, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
half-a-season of alex semin is not worth more than a full season of alex semin, no matter how many goals you project in his first half.
and offense happens to be exactly what the caps were missing this past playoffs.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If only they had Alex Semin to help carry the secondary scoring in the post-season…
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Even aside from the certain decrease in returns from trading at the deadline vs offseason, trading Semin at the deadline means sending him to a certain playoff contender.
Offense is not what the Caps will need next playoffs, with or without Semin on the roster.
It sure was what we needed this playoffs.
You had me at no problem.
Well, only for the occasional migraine…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This is relevant to my interests.
Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...
by Smoltz's Beard on May 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT reply actions
Indeed it is...
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Ted.
You’ve made a huge financial commitment to two players, and in the process have given us something that transcends the mercenary nature of modern sports.
Whatever this era of Capitals hockey brings us, we will have the pleasure of watching two of the very best in the game ply their trade in a Capitals uniform for the duration. It’s a very good day to be a fan.
High praise from BB at the presser. Nicky’s “one of the best 5 players in the world.” Moreover, “Caps have two of the 5 best players.” Damn straight we’re lucky.
Hope BB isn’t writing his own tombstone here, “During his time in Washington he had two of the best players in the world, but…”
I think BB will succeed, but….
Everything sounds smarter in Tikkanesse....
And it still wasn’t enough to get past the NHL’s 19th best team….
I kid! I kid! Think it’s a great deal.
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no thanks to you guys! The Maple Leafs had one job that last game of the season, but nooooooooooo!
how is an off-season free of “Oh god, Vesa Toskola is our starting goalie!” treating you all?
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It is relaxing. Gustavsson is tearing up the Worlds and I only ever have to think about Toskala when I am laughing at someone else for a change. Thank God St. Louis drafted Lars Eller.
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debating Minnesota vs. Toronto for vacation this September. What else is there to do besides Hockey Hall of Fame and a Blue Jays game?
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One of the top 5 players in the world…for 6.5 a year? Um, yes please!
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by SeattleCapsFan on May 17, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
BB also thinks Flash is an elite player. /justsayin
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 17, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
High praise from BB at the presser. Nicky’s "one of the best 5 players in the world." Moreover, "Caps have two of the 5 best players."
wait, i was sure i’d read that nick backstrom wasn’t even in the top 50 players in the NHL.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s all secondary assists.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 17, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Still one of the dumbest articles I’ve come across in a long time. It was Panaccio-esque. EvenI feel embarrassed for the author.
Choking since 1985.
It was one man’s opinion. He is entitled to it, I suppose. But someone posted a comment claiming his ranking’s of the top 50 players are from the Central Scoutings NHL rankings which also ranks the BEST players in the world (based on 22 attributes like skating, skill, play away from the puck, leadership, shooting accuracy etc). The formula was designed in the 70’s by Sam Pollack to measure the impact of a player on a team.
It is the analysis of 30 NHL GMS, 26 NHL Assistant GMS, and 253 NHL scouts for a total of 309 evaluation professionals.
3) Ovechkin, 18) Sasha, 25) Mike Green, 36) Mean Lars.
Those rankings were also before this year. After this year I’d be heavily surprised not to see Backis in the top 20, only a bit surprised if they don’t put him in the top 10. His play for Sweden should help change minds.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
His play for Sweden should help change minds.
I think his 33 goals and 101 points last season will change a lot more minds then his 2010 Olympics …ot that his play for Sweden wasn’t good.
by markbona-capsfan99 on May 17, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering he had a couple of days with new linemates before being thrown into a role as a player Sweden depended heavily on for offense, and flourishing as he had insta-chemistry with Eriksson and Alfredsson (?) and has his line play heavily in the offensive zone (by what people said here—I only caught one Sweden game) then I think Backstrom had a quite solid Olympics.
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by red army line on May 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Odd.You thought he played poorly? I did catch most of the Sweden’s Olympic games and I thought Backs and his line played really well—very offensively solid.
by capsyoungguns on May 18, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s tricky because it’s one of those deals that, for now, looks perfectly valid – comparable to Kane/Toews deal – but is going to look like a HUGE bargain in a few years. We haven’t seen the best of Nicky yet, and what we’ve seen is pretty damn impressive.
It’s only a bargain if the economy really does recover in the near-term, or if the NHL somehow lands a huge TV deal. Not holding my breath on either. Salary cap should be pretty stagnant for a while.
You had me at no problem.
Right, but consider that he’s going to continue to get better and that centers mature later – then consider that Malkin and Crosby are both going to max out at $9 million in 3-4 years and be looking for contracts that will likely make THEIR deals look like pocket change.
Salary cap/economy aside, these guys are still going to get paid. This insures that, in his prime, Backstrom’s cap hit will remain at $6.7 million. A bargain, if you ask me.
watch kovalchuk’s contract this summer and then marvel at what a deal nicky will end up being.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kovalchuk is going to be mighty disappointed this summer, I think, unless he’s willing to go to a desperate team (back to Atlanta, anyone?).
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disappointed compared to the $10M rumors, no doubt. but i bet he signs for more than $6.7. and if he signed for $6.5M, nicky would still be a huge deal in comparison.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. 4 years, $100 million (roughly) in the KHL.
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Currently I’d of ranked him at 6.7 mil and when they started saying yesterday high 6s for a long time I wasn’t surprised to see 67 mill on 10 years. I don’t think his deal will be too huge of a bargain seeing as it goes up through the years. Last 2 seasons the guys who have been beating Lars out include the likes of Malkin, Crosby and Ovechkin, 7.2 7.2 and 9 million dollar men.
Bruce Boudreau when asked about Brooks Laich's return to the lineup, he said: "He just adds another dimension to our team. If it was puzzle, he just fits that thing. He completes us."
I knew you’d agree on it being a steal.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
This gives the Capitals significant breathing room and 10 freaking years. It’s time for Gerty to smile.
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AUTO-GENERATED CAPGEEK.COM LINES
FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / * Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)
Mike Knuble ($2.800m) / Brooks Laich ($2.067m) / Jason Chimera ($1.875m)
Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / Matt Bradley ($1.000m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / Tom Poti ($3.500m)
Karl Alzner ($1.675m) / John Erskine ($1.250m)
John Carlson ($0.846m) / Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($0.822m) / Simeon Varlamov ($0.822m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER: 16; PAYROLL: $45.944m; CAP ROOM: $11.706m BONUSES: $0.850m
So $11.7m left vs last year’s cap number. (Do we know what next years # is yet?)
Left to sign:
Fehr – RFA
Gordo – RFA
Flash – RFA
Schultz – RFA
Shamo – UFA
Belanger – UFA
Juice – UFA
BMo – UFA
Also available:
Perreault – 0.7m
Man, we have a logjam at D. How can we get rid of Erskine and Sloan to get Shamo and Juice onto the roster?
It’s actually going up like 900K I think.
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Hey, that there’s enough room to sign another Tyler Sloan
by Becca H on May 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
hey, I won’t argue against adding another hot guy to the team!
oh, that’s not what you mean…..damn.
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The world isn’t ready for two Tyler Sloans….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The Martys of the world are gonna be frightened!
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
do we know yet whether nick’s salary and cap hit are the same? i.e. does his salary escalate at some point like AO’s?
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
We don’t, but something in the way GM announced it made me think there might be an early bump. He said “average of 6.7” if I remember right.
Sig temporarily on hiatus.
So I got it backwards. Per TEB
Nicklas Backstrom’s contract escalates from $6 million to $8 million, I’m told. It breaks down like this: $6 mil., 6, 6, 6, 6.5, 6.5, 7, 7.5, 7.5 and 8.
Sig temporarily on hiatus.
How can we get rid of Erskine and Sloan to get Shamo and Juice onto the roster?
How about waivers?
It’ll be interesting to see how much of that cap room will be eaten up by resigning all the RFAs and which UFAs get offers (I’m guessing at most 2 of the 3 of Belanger, Shamo, and Juice). There’s also the issue of whether you need a veteran goalie (no, IMO). Still, should be enough left over to address the 2C issue.
Here’s a line-up put together by F&B earlier (Backstrom’s number is off, it happened before the signing):
FORWARDS
Alexander Ovechkin ($9.538m) / * Nicklas Backstrom ($6.900m) / Alexander Semin ($6.000m)*
Patrick Sharp ($3.900m) / Mike Knuble ($2.800m) / Brooks Laich ($2.067m)
Jason Chimera ($1.875m) / Dave Steckel ($1.100m) / * Eric Fehr ($1.000m)
Matt Bradley ($1.000m) / * Jay Beagle ($0.875m) / * Boyd Gordon ($0.850m)
Mathieu Perreault ($0.717m)
DEFENSEMEN
Mike Green ($5.250m) / * Brent Seabrook ($3.500m)
Tom Poti ($3.500m) / * Jeff Schultz ($1.715m)
Karl Alzner ($1.675m) / John Carlson ($0.846m)
Tyler Sloan ($0.700m)
GOALTENDERS
Michal Neuvirth ($0.822m) /
Simeon Varlamov ($0.822m)
CAPGEEK.COM
TOTALSROSTER: 22;
PAYROLL: $57.451m;
CAP ROOM: $0.199m
BONUSES: $0.850m
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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
How many years for Sharp and Seabrook and what does that do to our room to resign Semin, Green, Varlamov, Schultz and others when needed?
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Some of the numbers are assumed (Fehr, Schultz).
But without looking it’s Seabrook for a year, and Sharp for 2, assuming I’m remembering correctly. Semin’s probably gone after this contract anyway.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup, Sharp for 2 and Seabrook for 1. Seabrook will get a huge raise and is RFA at the same time as Alzner; Green and Carlson are up for a new deal the next year. You figure we could keep 3 of the 4 and the other would be great trade bait (and we have Schultz to re-sign this off-season).
And yeah, Semin is gone after this year.
But it’s all fantasy because there is no way we swing that trade.
I waited all year for this?
What trade?
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I got that. :-)
Who are you giving up? I see 14 and 4 gone. What prospects do you give up?
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For Sharp and Seabrook? I’d give up this first, next first and Mackan or MP. I’d also swap Bouchard and Orlov or a similar combination to get one of the firsts back if CHI would go for it.
I waited all year for this?
Isn’t that a lot to get one year out of Seabrook?
I take it you are assuming a) the picks won’t be very high, b) our salary cap will be stretched anyway to sign new youngsters and c) we may be able to resign Seabrook?
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I dunno. I was rosterbating late last night and just wanted to see if I could make it fit. I don’t think it’s even slightly realistic. But I would take a chance with one year of Seabrook even if we can’t re-sign him. He’s RFA so he won’t walk for free. We’ll recoup one of the Firsts at least if we don’t keep him.
I waited all year for this?
Have to figure MP is on the roster next year; with 4 expensive players (AO, Baxter, Semin and Green) they need some roster spots filled by cheap, young guys.
That takes the cap room againt today’s cap down to around $11M. If you add in the $900K that PPP suggests, then you’re looking at 11.9M.
Next up: Schultz and Fehr. I’ve been hoping Schultzie, with the exception of the gaudy +/-, has pedestrian enough stats to keep him in the $1.5M range, but Whiter Mage was suggesting $3.5M for him. I’m hoping it’s not that high.
Fehr probably comes in around $1.5M, I’d imagine?
Depending on what happens with those guys, then you’re looking at perhaps one of Juice/Shamo and then hopefully a 2C.
I’ve got my hopes pinned on Sharp, too.
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Is Plekanec still entirely unrealistic? Seems like something that should at least be on the table for discussion.
He’s going to make bank on the open market. There’s no way the Caps are going to shell out 5 million+ for a 2C.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
And as I’ve said, there’s almost no way he’ll be worth it. Guy’s consistently inconsistent, insanely frustrating and in the midst of a classic contract year performance. I always call him a less talented Sasha and I hold firm to that belief.
Plus I think Montreal re-signs him.
I am way on board with this. I want no part of Plekanec. He’ll sign a big contract due to his elevated play and then promptly settle back to his career-average performance.
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The Habs are eating the cake that is Plekanec right now, and they’re going to leave the bill on someone else’s payroll. He’s going to get $4.5M or more after the playoff he has had, but it will be from a team that is borderline on the playoff line (Anaheim, Dallas, NY Rangers). No team that’s a strong contender will touch him.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
i’d extend that even to say that no team that’s a strong contender would even have the cap space to waste on him. He’s going to cash in huge. I also subscribe to the whole MTL resigning idea. There’s talk of making him C, but we’ll see.
Re Fehr and Schultzie, I think optimistically, Fehr can get 1.5, but no way Schultz makes 1.5M, On the Caps, he’s worth at least 2, and I wouldn’t be surprised if he hits 3M.
Guy’s consistently inconsistent, insanely frustrating and in the midst of a classic contract year performance.
That actually sounds like he should be one of your favorite players.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It does, doesn’t it? ;) I’ve gone back and forth on him for sure but this year he’s just pissing me off. He put up 70 points after a 40 point year; did the same thing the two years before that. He takes bad penalties – worse than Sasha – and doesn’t have the skill to make me forgive him. He’s got a dirty side to him that I don’t love.
And all of a sudden this year everyone’s tapped him as this hidden treasure for some reason. Odd, no one stops to think about the fact that the reason no one’s noticed him before was because he wasn’t worth noticing.
Happy Dance!
Nicky and Ovie 4evr!
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a post like that demands a bromance picture
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Satin puck!
I never noticed before but that puck has devil horns on it. MEANS LARS uses evil pucks!
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
er, Satan puck… (Miroslav would be angry with me)
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
where’s the pic of Ovie down on his knees and Nicky cradling his face?
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Me too. Where is the one of Nicky cradling Ovi’s face? I love that photo. Takes bromance to a new level.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think we can do better – maybe someone can photoshop them into red jerseys?? I have no photoshop ability.
Ha, that’s awesome
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by Smoltz's Beard on May 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
that photo makes me think of the draft documentary and Ovie going “No, George, no!”
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You’re right. Makes me want to watch it again.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
good lord, look at how much baby fat Nick was carrying.
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He’s lost that look of innocence as well as the baby fat.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Cuddling on the couch photo?
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
This one?
This morning made me happier about hockey than I’ve felt since 28 April.
Looks like I picked the wrong season to stop sniffing glue.
by alex_k on May 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha
Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...
by Smoltz's Beard on May 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
on the couch
Waiting 'til next year.
by wickedwitch on May 17, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I swear I had that couch in my off-campus house when I was in school
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. How do you know these things? Still they seem so comfortable on it that it looks like someone’s basement TV room couch. Good to know—TV room is a Buffalo locker room. Still love the goofy photo.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh! It’s been too many years. I have no memory of my dorm room. But I know I never had a couch like that but then I was a girl who nested.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Going on 25 years ago for me. Plus I moved into an apartment with roomies by my second year.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, one of those weird factoids that got lodged in my brain.
although the factoids aren’t always right: see my error regarding the nature of Fehr’s back injury from earlier today.
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Great factoid though. This photo spends a lot of time on my desktop. Actually most of my desktop photos are of Nicky and Ovi.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
What wouldn’t my son give to be able to give any of the players a hug. We’ve gone to the practices and gotten autographs but that’s about it. He does have a love for goalies—his favorite position—and still can’t wrap his head around the idea that Jose won’t be with the team anymore.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea! I love this goofy one. Shows how no matter how much money one has, young guys still prefer ugly comfy tv-watching couches.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
Another uninnocent, elegant fall into the unmagnificent lives of adults...
by Smoltz's Beard on May 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Video of the announcement is now on Caps365
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beautiful
so the unofficial unofficial player salary cap information spreadsheet looks like this…
it brings a tear.
um..
don’t look too closely at backstrom’s cap hit numbers in that one. i jumped the gun a bit, i was that excited.
real numbers for those with very good eyes..
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
GMGM Quote of the Day: “It’s always good to have Vikings.”
And Backstrom Quote of the Day (on who will pay for lunch, him or Ovie): “Rock, paper, scissors?”
by Becca H on May 17, 2010 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
GMGM with the humor? what is this world coming to?
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He had Adrian Peterson on his Fantasy team last year…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
.......
Fun fact: Mackan’s hometown in Sweden was fought over by the Danes and the Swedes for centuries (obviously eventually successfully by the Swedes), so he he descended from TWO kinds of Viking!
by EmilyB on May 17, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s an awesome looking building.
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Nick, master of the understatement (via CI, which also now has video of Bruce looking “like a proud father” in another post)
Here’s what Backstrom said when asked if Ovechkin’s deal was a factor:
“Yeah, a little bit I think. I was thinking about I wanted to play with him, so hopefully he’ll want to play with me too. I think I wanted a 10 year, I wanted long term, and I think it’s good we’re together.”
gee, kiddo, I’m going to take a guess that Ovie wants to play with you and is in Germany frantically trying to watch all the videos of the announcement (complete with red hat perched on his head)
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I loved that. This kid, I swear – one of the best players in the world, just signed a nice big contract and is still humble to the core.
The fact that he wanted a long-term deal is such a good sign to me, too. I know a lot of people were wondering whether he’d want to be tied down for that long, especially considering the fact that (scary as it may seem) his best years are still ahead of him. Speaks to his commitment to the organization, his level of comfort here, the respect he has for the team and GMGM and Ovie…just great.
by Becca H on May 17, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I know its an incomplete picture, being on the outside and all, but I can’t help but think that when the leaders of the team like Ovie and Laich speak so passionately about the team and their commitment to the organization, everyone else notices that and thinks “hey, you know, I could see myself spending a long time here…..” And those guys practice what they preach, too. I’m reminded of Ovie sitting down with Carlson to ask him all about scoring that GWG at juniors. I can’t imagine what was going through his head. “Alex Ovechkin wants to talk to me?”
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by RedBirdie on May 17, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You’ve nailed it I think. This team and this city has become a desirable place for other players. Small things such as Ovi wearing his Caps hat throughout the Worlds adds to the fact that the players are committed to this team, believe in the coach and the organization, and are determined to win the Cup.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
All of the interviews I’ve read of Sasha, Varly, Ovi, and Nick indicate they really like living here even if it, at times, seems boring. A common theme is they seem to appreciate that people are very considerate and nice. Sasha often says he does not like to move and that it’s better to live where there are fewer temptations! (Guess Germany would not be so good.)
Well it is nice to be able to go out to dinner and be recognized but not harassed. For me this area is a nice combination of a city with a small town kind of ambiance.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Been to 19’s web site? The opening statement said something like “I hope this site will increase your enjoyment of hockey”; he was in the background of some of the pictures and alone in less than half.
Backstrom : self-promotion :: Poti : Peanut-butter and pollen sandwich.
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by redlineblue on May 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Gads, had to rec that Poti allergy reference. It’s astonishing he can be an athlete at any level with the allergies he has…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm finally feeling happy!
Just watched the press conference. Loved the love flying around that room. Little Nicky is going to be big brother now—I like him in that mentoring role. I can’t wait to see how Marcus develops—wouldn’t it be great if he really is on a similar fast track tho’ I will keep my expectations realistic. GMGM making a joke—wow—Vikings are damn useful.
Oh, good, the whole thing is going to be available online? I can’t wait to watch it when I get home.
Yeah—they posted it really fast thank goodness. I can never seem to get anything live on their site so I was frantically reading here to find out what happened.
by capsyoungguns on May 17, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm goin' to DisneyWorld!!!
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by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Nickey didn’t want to buy a new collection of goofy football hats, that’s why he re-signed.
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although at $35 a piece, nicky could buy…..1,914,285 helmet-hats with his new contract!
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Once the glow fades on the deal, consider the new reality… this deal would appear to put a ceiling on Semin’s next deal. There is no economic logic that suggests Semin gets anything close to this deal from the Caps. Not only does Semin not command a long-term deal of this sort, but he’s not getting $6.7 per from the Caps. Unless he signs for a hometown discount (because someone will offer him something in the $7 million range if he has a year next year like this one), next year is his last with the Caps.
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I can live with that. I’m more pumped about the fact that we are guaranteed Nick + AO for just about 16.5 for the next decade.
I waited all year for this?
Which begs the question…
The bigger bargain… 19/8 at $16.2 cap hit through 2020 or 87/71 for $17.4 cap hit thru 2013?
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by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
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by sydtron on May 17, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
i was about to pose the same question. depends a bit on whether crosby the great leader of men would be willing to take a below-market-value deal to finish his career with the pens. my guess is he will, and my guess is his second deal will be far below AO’s $10M salary and $9.5M cap hit.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with that. I’m not sure Malkin is so generous though. I still think it’ll be hard to keep both of them. I know Hooks Orpik is pretty confident that Sid takes a hometown discount. I hope not though.
I waited all year for this?
Sid’s going to be a Penguin until he retires or until he moves out of Mario’s guest house falls out of favor in Pittsburgh. They did say the same thing about Jagr…
And anyone can be traded… Wayne Gretzky was traded twice in his career. Also traded were Bobby Orr, Bobby Hull (and son Brett!), Phil Esposito, Mike Gartner… Mario Lemieux and Maurice Richard are the exception to playing with one team their entire career, not the rule…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I never used to think so (perhaps wishful thinking), but I suspect Crosby is a Pens lifer. I’m more intrigued by what might unfold with Malkin. He is still an elite player, but he did take a step back this year and is inconsistent to boot. When on, he has an even more rounded, intimidating game than Crosby. But when he’s not, he’s invisible. Want to make another long-term investment in that?
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by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m also wondering if Malkin will chase the money, assuming someone throws a rather large sum at him.
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Both were interesting deals in that neither seemed to want to stay for the long-term when they signed – it’s the only reason I question whether Crosby wants to be a Pens lifer, although I’d guess he’s more likely to be one than Malkin.
I just don’t know if it’s the way they do things in Pittsburgh, that a 5-year deal was all Shero was willing to give, or if Crosby/Malkin both decided they wanted their next big contract to come when they’re in their prime. It’ll be interesting to see what happens there.
Btw, Malkin refused to sign for less than Sid, which is why their deals are practically identical. Backstrom’s taking $2-3 million per year less than Ovie just to play with him. …just sayin’.
trying to get a read on Malkin is damn near impossible. I can’t figure that guy out. Can’t blame him for wanting Sid-level money, though.
Nick taking less is so in character for him. He seems quite content to live on Ovie’s shadow and pretend he isn’t an elite player.
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He can’t afford a discount. He has a house to furnish.
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You mean Mario doesn’t provide furnishings for him too? You would think that Mario would have Martha Stewart come over every morning to make Sid breakfast….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
and if nick’s contract is the ceiling, semin’s current $6M contract is the floor. even if he’s signing for an extended period, no player is going to willingly take a paycut on his first UFA deal. which brings me to the same conclusion…no way the caps invest $6-6.7 in semin for the longterm.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why I suspect next year is Semin’s last with the club.
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by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely. for me, the writing was on the wall as soon as semin inked the 1-year deal. even if his intentions were merely to increase his bargaining power and not to leave the caps, the bottom line for GMGM doesn’t change…one year at $6M makes sense, but a multi-year investment needs to come in below $6M with all the other team needs.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m betting that Semin never even gets to collect on that last year with the Caps. Moving his $6 million just gives McPhee so much more flexibility to go after the defenseman and #2 center the team needs. Plus, it opens up a roster spot for one of the kids from Hershey.
which kid from Hershey — specifically a winger — is ready to make that jump, let alone to the second line (if he is replacing Semin)?
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by ThePeerless on May 17, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t need to necessarily be second line. If we actually get a solid 2C then we could live with a combination of Laich/Flash/Fehr on the 2Ws. Then we could test MP/Mackan as the 3L. Maybe bump Bradley up to the 3L for some regular season games and give Gordon/Beagle/Pinner a look as our future checking line guys.
I waited all year for this?
Cody Eakin seems to be getting a real long look in Hershey. He was the first to arrive, did well in three games and…he’s still there, though others have come and gone.
Just sayin’.
He’s going back to the WHL next year. There’s not a lot to talk about with him. He’s impressive and looks like a great pick, but he’s not in any immediate plans.
I waited all year for this?
. If we actually get a solid 2C then we could live with a combination of Laich/Flash/Fehr on the 2Ws. Then we could test MP/Mackan as the 3L.
All of those options make for a substantially worse defensive second line unless this new 2C is a HELL of defensive player. I think Semin is underated that way and I Laich (and possibly Fehr) are overrated that way. I think that plan may be more damaging to us than it seems (especially without a high 30s low 40s goal scorer to offset the defensive dificiencies).
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by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
But then again, you also think Semin brings his A game every night. Semin can be great defensively, but are we really going to see our team defense tremendously suffer if he leaves? No. Our secondary scoring will be a concern, but it’s already a concern when it matters. I’d jettison Semin to make room for Patrick Marleau in a heartbeat.
I waited all year for this?
But then again, you also think Semin brings his A game every night.
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Tremendously suffer, maybe not, but suffer more than we’d like to think if we’re running a second line with Fehr/Flash and Laich at the wings.
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by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
If Flash is still on the team we are all suffering already.
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by Carl Putnam on May 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I’m trying to think of a scenario where Marleau would want to leave SJ and come here. That would be tremendous though and Nicky’s contract puts us in the ballpark of having the space to make it happen.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It all depends who SJS makes their priority. Pavelski, Setoguchi, Marleau and Nabokov are all FA. Thornton has one more year on his deal. They’re already close to the cap and still have other needs to attend. I just don’t see how they all stay. Nabokov and Marleau seem like the two most likely to leave. I’d pay Marleau, but not Nabby.
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Would you take Pavelski for a little cheaper than Marleau? Also I wonder what scenario would make any of them more likely to leave SJ. Winning the Cup…not winning the Cup, etc.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What are their ages? Does Pavelski really fetch less than Marleau?
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Pavelski will turn 26 over the summer. Marleau will turn 31 this September. I’d have to figure Pavelski will still come in 1-2M less than Marleau.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Depends on how much teams will value his age and this year’s playoff performance over the bigger numbers Marleau puts up.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d pay him more.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think that’s true after another 2 years…not next year or the year after.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I meant I’d pay Pavelski more than Marleau.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
For 2010-2011?
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I agree with what you said below.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you, and I was saying I still think most people would pay Marleau more over next 2 years but after that the age factor starts coming in.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
True, but Pavelski has been INCREDIBLE in the playoffs.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s what I mean, at some point the age factor lowers what you’d give Marleau and when you add in Pavelski’s playoffs this year what I think they are actually worth is much closer than what people would offer each.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I have to wonder what the organization is projecting for the 2C and 3C within the next 2 years…because if you are expecting MP/Mackan to start competing for that job within 2 years are we really going to splash some money for a FA on any deal longer than 3-4 years? Or more stop gap veteran signings hoping the kids come along sooner rather than later?
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like a legit 2C for at least 2 years, but I don’t see it happening. 3 might be ideal if the price is low enough to allow MP and Mackan to still work into the lineup and fill other holes.
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3 would be about the limit if they’re expecting one or both to eventually be on the team at that point. Question is what guy is going to sign a 3 year deal? Maybe Marleau would at his age, but I don’t know. I’d find that more likely if they lost in the Finals or something.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think I’d be inclined to pay Pavelski more over a longer period of time, but Marleau more in 2010-2011.
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This is 10x better way of summing up my thoughts.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Pavelski’s max year was 59 points last year. Granted he missed 15 games this year and managed 51 points and his playoff performance has been tremendous.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d definitely take Pavs for less money, but I don’t think SJS lets him go.
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Yeah I asked that question at FTF the other day and they want him over Marleau. I think he gets the C when Blake retires.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s my impression as well. If they are going to re-sign Thornton as the 1C then Pavs makes a great 2C and with Heater in the fold they can’t really commit that much more to Marleau. Maybe they throw a long deal with 750Ks on the end and hope he sticks around because he loves SJS. I wouldn’t be shocked, but I still don’t see them keeping everyone.
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Yeah all just a fantasy roster…but that would be my dream fix.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Supposedly, they’re priorities are JoePa, Patty, Seto, Nabby. In that order.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
shhh…those are the people we are trying to sell Semin to.
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by Davethecapsfan on May 17, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s a damn shame Bob Gainey resigned. You’d take Semin in a heartbeat.
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I’d love it. GMDP turned down their offer for Hamhuis already. I assume because it #neededmoreSeto.
(It was a first and a second rounder, no players)
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
A center has to be more defensively responsible by nature of the position. I think then if you have
Option 1: Semin-C-W
Option 2: W-Player B-W
And player B is as good as Semin defensively, and you know the extra W is responsible defensively, that 2nd one may be better two-ways than the first. At least, consistently better. Semin’s A game is better than all but maybe a handful of forwards.
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If Semin were moved, it’d be Fehr’s chance to move to the second line. After all, whenever Bruce is asked about Eric’s playing time, he always points to Semin as the reason why it doesn’t happen. As to a Hershey kid moving to the third line, I think there are a number of guys-MP, Gordon, Bourque, Bouchard for starters. Maybe Johansson does make the leap from Sweden or someone from the fourth line. Finding a third line winger shouldn’t be that difficult.
MP as a Wing?
There have been lots of questions about MP as a an NHL center. Can he play wing?
by Direction 87 on May 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Semin is signed for 2010-11
…and is playing to get a contract in 2011-12 and beyond. From who, we don’t know. Several things could happen with Semin this year:
- He could become the all-around player he is supposed to be as opposed to the guy with sick hands, sick talent, and brain farts. If that’s the case, the Caps will try to lock him up, but there are repercussions with that, in that if he is locked up, he could revert.
- He could be the Semin we all love and grow annoyed with, in which case, he plays out the year, and then he and the Caps part ways amicably. Whether he goes to the KHL or another NHL team is up for discussion.
- His injury bug could strike harder than it usually does, and he misses significant time. Then the Caps have some leverage to what his next contract would look like. That said, the KHL would become an even more likely option as they might pay him a lot more to play over there.
- He could have the worst year imaginable, bust completely, in which case he’s definitely going to the KHL…
With Sasha, there’s no way to know what you’re going to get. That’s why George moved his contract status to the UFA line. If he works out and extends, great. If he flops, the Caps can let him go with no strings attached…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Do any of those potentials include scoring a goal in the playoffs for the first time in 15 games?
Choking since 1985.
Hopefully so, and hopefully he will get a lot of opportunities in 2011…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d take one, one of the 2000 Arnott variety…
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by red army line on May 17, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not gonna lie, Backstrom at 6.7 for 10 is freaking amazing. I don’t think the Caps could have hoped for better! 10 years still only takes him to his age 32 season, and 6.7 is totally workable in building a team around him and OV.
And GMGM got it done early, knows the cap hit and what he has to work with now, and that will only help going forward into the offseason.
I, for one, am pretty pleased.
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Nice article over at Fanhouse about Nicky's contract and other big-timers.
Includes this graphic:
http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/05/17/nicklas-backstroms-contract-a-steal-for-washington/
I think Caps have done pretty damn good.
Should have thrown Vinny on there to make everyone feel better
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by sydtron on May 17, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ah, Vinny……clearly, those big mean Capitals intimidated the nhl stat keepers into lowering his ppg.
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LOL. Yeah, amazingly Steckel is costing Vinny points by lobbying that his assists should go to Kurtis Foster….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Make the Ranger fans happy and pute Wade Redden up there…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
file under: things that make ScottyHockey cry.
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The only thing that makes Scotty cry is when Tom Poti has a good game…
Redden makes him angry, not sad.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
the huge length of the contract definitely makes me feel better about nick’s $$ in comparison to the chicago young guns. each signed for 5 years. though i had them at $6.3M cap hits, not $6.5M.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think in relation to their talent/production — other than Staal and Stasny — that’s a pretty good representation. Ovechkin/Crosby/Malkin are the top of the class, and Toewes/Kane/Kopitar/Backstrom are just slightly behind.
Nash is interesting because he’s the lone guy there who has played on a historically bad team. If he only had some talent around him.
Nash is closer to Toewes than Toewes is to Backstrom, which is interesting.
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creates the possibility..
..that backstrom is now the number 1 most valuable capital in “ranking the capitals,” seeing as we are expected to consider salary terms. here just one year less than AO at almost $3M less in annual cap hit.
i think i’d still side with AO given his production to date, his “face of the franchise” status, all that he brings off the ice. but if you were starting a team tomorrow and could either have AO for $9.54 through 20-21 or backstrom for $6.70 through 19-20….not a no brainer. i’d struggle with it.
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and everyone gets a grammar lesson. win-win!
what kind of sick… [sigh] never mind.
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree. This MVC voting is going to be very interesting. The gap between AO and Nick is much smaller and the gap between Nick and everyone else is much larger than last year.
I waited all year for this?
would you be game if set up a series of “ranking the NHL” fanposts later this summer, same criteria, nominations accepted throughout? we’d most likely end up with a huge caps bias, but i think it would help me learn about the league. would also help me learn about the contract status of all the elite players.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’d be game. It’s a nightmare of a project and props to you if you can pull it off. There will definitely be a huge Caps bias.
I waited all year for this?
the caps bias would give everyone something to argue about.
“WHAT?? you seriously think john carlson is more valuable than duncan keith?? i mean, look at the length of keith’s deal!”
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
John Carlson didn’t get picked for Team Canada, duh Duncan Keith rulz!
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That example will be nothing. I can’t wait for the Fehr is better than "insert winger name here’.
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Ha Ha. PPPer’s probably still think I was arguing for Schultz to actually be on the roster. Their Regher love blinded rationality. I expect the same from a lot of Caps fans.
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They also had JBouw as a “lock”…some of it love, some of it unpredictability. I’d guess Green was a lot closer to making the team than how it was portrayed. Tough to tell when you don’t see the player play a ton of games.
Similarly, Backstrom I think would be underrated.
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by red army line on May 18, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
i don’t think we’ll push it as far as fehr. maybe top 25? even if we do top 50 we won’t get past top-line forwards and top-pairing defensemen (unless a bananas prospect makes the cut).
i’ll expand the initial poll to include a ton of players, so as not to personally bias the outcome. maybe i’ll take the discussion offline with a few community members to see who should have a place on the initial poll.
one last thing to worry about: another blog linking the FanPost and sending over hordes of voters. not sure anyone will care enough, but it’s a possibility.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s a concern, but I wouldn’t really care too much. We have plenty of anonymous bad-voters on our own; it’s all about the debate anyway.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 17, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think you missed my point. I was just making the same point F&B did with his Stecks vs Staal example. I expect some folks when you list top forwards are going to bust out some ridiculous comparisons to Caps.
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sorry, no i understood. i guess i just have faith that no would would be ridiculous enough to insert fehr into a top-25 or even a top-50 debate. and was an excuse for me to announce that i wouldn’t try to push past those numbers.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
would junk up the FanPost column like never before, though. might have to break theo60’s guideline with each new post?
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Completely off-topic but since I wasn’t here last year, what exactly did theo60 do? I hear his name thrown around a lot.
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by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m intrigued. Whats it involve?
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
last summer, we ranked every capital from #1 (ovechkin) to whatever number nylander earned. we included prospects.
basically, it’s similar to bill simmons’ trade value ranking he does for the NBA each year. taking age, injury history, salary terms into account, you’d theoretically trade #10 for #9, #9 for #8, etc., etc., all else equal. it’s an exercise to really think like a GM. yes, carlson/alzner were still on the cusp of being bonafide NHL players last summer, but they still ranked high because based on their age and potential, they were more valuable than many returning caps. you’d also get to argue shea weber vs. mike green.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Cool. I started on this same project for CLS, emulating Simmons’ thing. I didn’t finish thanks to school, in fact, all I got was a top 55 or so list to work with. But color me interested in reading, for sure.
No need to argue Green/Weber, Weber made Team Canada!
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i’ll shoot you an email if i ever go through with it…would get started in early august maybe (or whenever ranking the capitals winds down). new vote each day.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, definitely do. I’ve got this big list on my computer but didn’t have the time in April to finish it, plus that sort of thing isn’t pertinent during a playoff race.
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by Chris Burton on May 17, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Step right up and get your NickyB jerseys
A great day for this fine franchise and something that will only help further bind to me a franchise that has earned my respect and trust. Only been following the team closely for the last year and a half, but I’m glad that this organization understands the value of its players and is willing to commit long term to its core pieces.
Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!
capsmedia twitter feed has a picture of the guys signing their contracts in what I assume is McPhee’s office. Quite the bobblehead collection.
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George probably gets all the promos. :)
Wonder if there ever was a George McPhee bobblehead when he was playing….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Man I wish that photo was higher res to be able to read the stuff along the windows there… Always wondered if that nice office facing the parking lot was his… guess it is.
Great. Now I have to change my name to "Jaromir meet Alex".
by Chris meet Alex on May 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick's new contract
Not as good as I hoped in my wildest dreams, not as bad as I feared in my worst nightmares.
Usually you trade length of term against annual dollars – in other words, the longer the term, the lower the average annual salary becomes. And maybe that happened here, but with the Toews/Kane comp, I don’t think so.
Now, if Nick continues to up his point production for the next 4 years and settles in as a 100 – 105 points/year player for the latter half of his 20’s, and if he stays healthy, and if the salary cap goes up, then it’s a real bargain. But if this was just a career year, and he settles in as a 25 – 65 – 90 guy, then it’s a bad deal. And if he has a bad injury and loses a step, it’s a bad deal. And if the cap falls, it’s a bad deal.
All in all, the Caps are assuming a lot of risk with the deal.
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the longer the term, the lower the average annual salary becomes. And maybe that happened here, but with the Toews/Kane comp, I don’t think so.
You have to keep in mind that Toews and Kane weren’t signed for UFA years. I would bet you take the next contract Kane and Toews sign and it is significantly higher than what Nick is signed for.
Both parties are assuming some risk, that’s what happens with long term deals. Nick is the kind of guy I’m confident will make it worth it, though. Mike Richards’ deal looked good when he signed it, and looks like a downright steal right now. I have a feeling we’ll say the same thing about Nick’s.
I waited all year for this?
Good point about the UFA years. I’ll be looking at the UFA deals for Kane/Toews with a good deal of interest.
Agree with you that NB is the kind of guy that you want to give a long term cntract to.
If Nick progresses along the same curve as Richards, we’re gonna love this deal.
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Also, when Toews and Kane signed their contracts, they were not on the same level as Nicky. Their contracts were based on some of their past numbers, and alot of their potential. Both of them, especially as very young stars, had great potential, so it made sense to sign them for big money. That being said, Backstrom’s contract was based more so on the fact that he just put up amazing numbers this season, and less base on potential that Toews and Kane. Because of the number he did put up, GMGM was more comfortable inking Lars for 10 years rather than 4 or 6.
Although Richards is a great player, I wouldn’t expect Backstrom to progress like he did. THis is speculation, but to expect Backstrom to get that much better, beyond where he is today, is unrealistic. Richards was somewhat further down the ladder this point, imo
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Ovechkin on the deal: "I’m very happy to hear the news, because he’s one of the top centers in the world, one of my best friends and we want to play together for a long time. He’s a guy who wants to stay in one place and be comfortable and win, just like me. We talk all the time about playing together, and we talked after the playoffs about how we can win in Washington."
Good to see the Captain talking his BFF into taking a nice deal to stick around.
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by Killer_Carlson on May 18, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah i didn’t get the message until i was on the bus and my immediate response was to throw up my arms and say “yes my viking is here to stay” and got a bunch of wierd looks. Oh well it made my day!
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Your quote wasn’t too far off.
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You were just doing your part to make this a hockey town year round.
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haha yeah except that I live 3 hours from dc and people out here don’t watch hockey
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Did you correct the error of their ways?
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Yeah i wore my ovie t-shirt alot once the temperature got high enough and people had no clue (1) who the caps are and (2) who ovi is. Makes me sad they do not know the awesomeness they are missing out on
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
where, generally speaking, are you located?
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the richmond va area
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
We go down there to play hockey in rec league, as well as for our oldest son’s college games. I thought there would be more of a following. I guess it’s pretty small, though.
yeah maybe they just are not in my immediate area but downtown richmond people don’t understand hockey
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
No clue who Ovie is?? That’s like illegal! Hockey may not be the biggest sport in D.C., but most people at least recognize the name Ovechkin here.
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yeah but i live in richmond, va the only thing they care about here is college basketball
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I’ve never watched a game of college basketball. I’d be like a huge outsider there.
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yeah i am because i’m not a big basketball fan so i just smile and nod when the tournament comes to town
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
the extent of my college basketball experience is two Maryland games when I was a kid, and the two tourney games American U played in. otherwise, I’m clueless
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I have been trying to correct their ways for years. Hockey is the best sport I don’t care who you are but the “sports bars” around here never show it they would rather show anything else
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Boo, that sucks. A place with absolutely no hockey, ever? That’s tough.
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only on my tv! once in a blue moon you will catch a place not too busy and they will change the channel
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
good move
now lets get a banger for the blueline his deal is very cap friendly pardon the pun .
CI is on a roll today. Preview of TEB’s article for tomorrow’s dead-tree edition, plus photos. Mama Backstrom looks very happy.
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i made the mistake of checking CI's comment section
i swear, it’s the first time i’ve done that in months. will stay away in the future.
Hey Tarik, I am a avid CI fan and i usually like what yall have to say and have to report,BUT,I thought it was totally classless and unprofessional that at nickys big signing party in front of ted and everyone that you ask him if he took less money to stay here.How do know that he doesnt feel that he made out and got a good deal.A deal HE wanted.Well one way is because he didnt answer your dumb question! Its just kinda degrading to question HIS deal and whether he could of got more.Here he was looking all happy and than after that question he just looked pissed and rightfully so.You need to brush up on your skills T cause you do ask some retarded questions.GREAT JOB NICKY,CONGRATS! GO CAPS!!!
no, TEB, please don’t ask backstrom about the negotiation. we would like you do less reporting than you already do.
by Natty Bumppo on May 17, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw that too. Apparently, this poster would like Tarik to ask something like:
“Nicky – Who does your hair?”
“Nicky — Isn’t it great to be a Capital?”
“Nicky — Are you going to go to Disney World now?”
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ah, CI comments! The place to go when I want to remind myself that idiot Girl isn’t the biggest idiot in the greater DC area.
speaking of which, it’s been a long time since we’ve had a proper drive by cled’ing around these parts….
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Quick word on the deal…I was jumping for joy at the rumored $69 million over 10…67 is just amazing. All things considered I don’t see how this isn’t a total steal. I’m sure Nicky took a bit of a discount because of the situation and he just rises that much higher in my estimation because of it. Here’s hoping a few of the other key cogs follow his example.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
Absolutely. Best part about the deal, imo, is that he is going to be around for awhile. The deal cemented the main franchise players of the Capitals: Ovechkin and Backstrom
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Someone explain this “Mackan” term
We’ve already got a nickname for Marcus Johansson?
Also I wrote Ted a congratulatory email on the signings; he was very kind in his reply. I don’t think he’s mad at me anymore :)
Different minds....old people.
some background on mackan. people will also refer to him as sandwich, sammich, etc.
by Natty Bumppo on May 18, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the link. I wondered too yesterday about “Mackan”.
by capsyoungguns on May 18, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
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