Thursday Caps Clips
by J.P. on May 13, 2010 6:45 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- ReCAPSule: Jeff Schultz. [Capitals]
- Brooks Laich, by the tens. [Peerless]
- And the Pat Sajak Award goes to... the Pat Sajak Award? [RtR]
- Want to buy the sweater Alex Ovechkin wore when he blew up Jaromir Jagr in Vancouver? You can. [eBay via OFB]
- Great stuff from Game 1 of the AHL Eastern Conference Finals from Ed Frankovic. [Ed Frankovic]
- "Slovakia enters Hanlon era." Good luck with that. [IIHF]
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Beautiful
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 6:46 AM EDT reply actions 23 recs
Schadenfreude never tasted so good.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 6:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My friend, I would recommend adding an avatar to your profile, as it’s been scientifically proven that those with naked profiles tend to walk around with their mouths open for no discernible reason whatsoever.
Additionally, a word or two in the subject line helps collapse an image and reduces the navigation length of a thread for all those who wish to see it. Consider it thinking for your fellow RR.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
that second pic… that’s M-A Fleury covering his mouth, trying not to vomit after watching the replay of the shortie, right?
If you've read this far...seek help.
MAF let in a flurry of goals.
Habs were blooming.
Rocking the Red since 1975
by CapsFan75 on May 13, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Moen’s goal where Gonchar pretty much did the “ole”? Hysterical.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 6:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Gonchar was hysterically bad on that goal. I don’t think I’ve seen worse defense in recent memory.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 6:57 AM EDT up reply actions
He pretty much just waved to Moen as he went on by. Jonesy destroyed him at intermission.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t see the intermission lambasting, but I caught the criticism that they had with the replay in the highlights.
And Gonchar deserves every bit of criticism he gets from that play.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Made Green’s play on Lapierre for Montreal’s second goal in our game 7 look stellar.
by Direction 87 on May 13, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
not just the ole, but afterwards he just stopped skating while still in the play! crazy to watch. i’m hoping for gonchar’s sake that he’s injured, and even then i can’t see it as a valid excuse for quitting.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Dunno – the goal where Orpik decided to spend a minute and a half harassing Lapierre behind the net instead of playing defense was pretty bad, too.
'Cause the end of what it was is what it is right now...
And Sid
Sid showing “leadership” with the boarding call 10 seconds in…set the tone for a wonderfully awful night for the pens who really were as inconsistent in this series as they were the whole season.
by Direction 87 on May 13, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
best example of his leadership? “I don’t know how that’s a penalty.”
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But he finished his check!
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
schultz on dubinsky circa 2009?
bergeron on pronger this year…
i really think gonch thought he had help behind him which is why he just forced him to the outside and let him go. kind of like a cornerback in football letting a receiver run by cause he thinks the safety has the guy deep. if the guy is there, its not a bad play…but if he’s not, well…ooops.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
…stay standing on ice, everyone knows how slippery that stuff is.
LET'S GO CAPS!!!
by Elliotte on May 13, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah and he broke his rib…yeah, thats the ticket…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
i think his rib might have actually already been broken. it’s hard to argue that he was injured, since the team then benched a top-4 defenseman the rest of the series.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Even with help behind you that is a bad play. There is no (good) reason to not pinch him off into the boards and instead let him carry the puck further into the zone.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
An interference penalty is a pretty good reason not to pinch him off. You have an elite SCF winning goalie who is better than any other goalie in the playoffs because he won a Cup. You figure he’s going to make that save, right?
I waited all year for this?
Eh, interference might’ve not been called.
But yeah, not even a terrific scoring chance resulted. Fleury last year makes that save.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on May 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Moen had the puck, how is it interference?
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure you have. Orpik on the second goal.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Read, then comment. Oops.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
overrated! Comment, then read is the way to go.
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The thing is, the mistake was way before the Ole. Once the Ole happened Gooch had no option. If he had made contact with Moen it’s an interference. He should have stepped up sooner so he could legally play the body but he was some combination of slow and tired and played some men’s league D right there.
I waited all year for this?
I just watched that goal on the NHLN encore presentation. Gooch had been on the ice for the first 1:15 of the PP and then got hung out to dry. He was bad, and looked horrible, but I put blame more on Kunitz. Terrible giveaway, terrible backcheck. Letang could have helped out more and MAF still needs to come out more and make that save. Terrible all around but Gooch looks like the goat.
I waited all year for this?
Save’s gotta be made, though. Between that one and the leaker for the first goal, MAF didn’t give the Pens much of a chance.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 13, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
And they say a picture is worth a thousand words!
The Pens folding last night like a deck of cards was like a ray of light on an otherwise dark and gloomy night, one of many without my beloved Caps still competing (see the Pens don’t even deserve okay writing, just mixed metaphors and cheesy similes.)
Now I can root against the Habs.
And maybe now we can be spared the exhausting, pointless, and meaningless Ovi vs Sid comparisons since neither of them had an answer to the Habs, But I’m sure the meme will be that Ovi choked with his ten points and 5 goals whereas Sid’s 5 points and 1 goal just meant that his team let him down.
by capsyoungguns on May 13, 2010 7:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I’m sure the +4 to -1 is another thing Crosby’s team let him down for… :-p
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And maybe now we can be spared the exhausting, pointless, and meaningless Ovi vs Sid comparisons
What have you been smoking lately? Not happening.
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Being ironic
I realize that the stupid debate will continue for the rest of their careers. I will continued to be irritated by the media’s swooning over Crosby. Therefore the petty part of me is delighted that Crosby and Malkin were likewise shut down, and that the media will need to discuss the whys and hows, and I am looking forward to reading how this Pens/Sid debacle will be characterized.
I credit the Habs though. I may find their game style boring, but they have been playing some inspired hockey. I really didn’t expect them to pull out a second game 7 win against another uber-offensively talented team. To knock off the President’s Trophy winner then the Stanley Cup champs is some feat.
I may even check into TSN later today—been avoiding them like the plague since our loss.
by capsyoungguns on May 13, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You might want to avoid them for a while longer. What I learned watching the TSN panel this morning:
Somewhere in a hotel in Germany Ovechkin says now you know how I feel Sid, or actually it might be in a nightclub in Germany it is Ovie ha ha.
Yes it’s well known that the reason he is “sleepy” in the early starting games (like the one I’m watching now Russia-Belarus he doesn’t look very hung over to me btw) is b/c he is out clubbing.
And according to Darren Pang Ovie’s goals against Montreal doesn’t really count because three of them came against Price. This is still a team sport right?
On days like this it makes you wonder if the media is aware of that.
What can I say I’m a JP fangirl. I will follow him into the darkest and filthiest of alleys, even the comment section at Puck Daddy.
And according to Darren Pang Ovie’s goals against Montreal doesn’t really count because three of them came against Price.
Even if that somehow made sense, that still leaves Ovechkin with twice as many goals against Halak than Crosby.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for the heads-up. It’s a good thing I was too busy today to read further afield. I am irritated enough today with normal life stuff.
Gee isn’t it a shame that Crosby’s team let him down again and again during their series against the Habs! Moreover, because Ovi is just a lazy cherry-picker, those few Halak goals must have been of the cherry-picking variety! And therefore not really worthwhile.
I blame Wise for the party boy accusations—his rant accusing them right after game 7 was incredibly unprofessional.
by capsyoungguns on May 13, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
My ideal scenario: Flyers win tomorrow and then get crushed by the Habs in the conference finals. Then the Habs go on the the Cup finals and get swept by either the Sharks or the Blackhawks. It would be interesting to see every team in this general area get eliminated by the Habs. Like three brothers quarreling amongst themselves until their dad comes in to shut them up.
"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."
by Laich It Or Lump It on May 13, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was awf’lly nice of Max Talbot to stop and change that tire after….oh wait, he didn’t.
by EmilyB on May 13, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
no picture of the monkey on the shoulder of the habs fan sitting behind the pens bench? that was f’ing weird…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
...
That was beyond odd. What was the point of bringing a ventriloquist dummy if it didn’t even have a forum to speak? It just sat there and nodded the whole time
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
that wasnt a real monkey??
he was going ape shit (pun intended) after one of the habs goals…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope. T’was a dummy of some sort. Was too animatronic to be a doll.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Logically speaking, i’m not sure they would let an actual live monkey into the stands during an NHL playoff game.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
.
For what it’s worth, he could get through security easy, but this would happen:
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He ain’t pretty no more!
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on May 13, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
the monkey was in PensAreYourDaddy’s seats. (unless he was joking about that.)
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
once again, the oddly consistent occurance of visiting fans filling the seats directly behind the home team bench. seem to happen everywhere. i know that the 10 seats right behind the caps bench are always for sale on stub hub. dont know who owns them but they obviously sell the entire season to a broker.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
in this case i believe it was a season ticket holder, screen name PensAreYourDaddy, who comments here regularly. not sure why he and his wife could not attend the game in person, unless they were just looking to recoup some costs. so no, not a mass broker.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Six clips… the world of hockey is in so much shock at the utter self-immolation of the Penguins that no one anywhere in North America could write anything.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Six clips… the world of hockey is in so muchshockcomplete and unabridged joy at the utter self-immolation of the Penguins that no one anywhere in North America could write anything.
Fixed
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 6:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Tweet of the night goes to Steinberg
PS: someone tell wilbon to write about how joe thornton is so far ahead of ovi and sid, those guys can’t see him with a telescope
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 6:59 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m personally a fan of the following two from DGB:
Next up for the Mellon Arena: demolition. Next up for every building on St. Catherine in Montreal: same.
Losing to the Habs in Game Seven: Yet another thing Sidney Crosby does more spectacularly than Alex Ovechkin.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 7:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Awesome…
And yes, they did riot in Montreal last night.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 7:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Follow @montrealcopcar for a couple of chuckles.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions
here’s one i found on my way to bed last night. via the national post, “unfinished business” starring AO and crosby.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Regarding Sid being a spoiled child:
“I think that the passion other people show probably isn’t under the same camera lens that was on 87 at the end of the [Game 6],” Pittsburgh coach Dan Bylsma said.
Oh yeah? That’s your excuse?
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it didn’t know dirty underhanded play=passion
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Six clips… the world of hockey is in so much shock at the utter self-immolation of the Penguins that no one anywhere in North America could write anything.
JP spending all his time last night/this morning working on another assignment?
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
it starts, “dearly beloved…”
nice to be able to be buried along with your building.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:27 AM EDT up reply actions
On Twitter, Paul Rovnak suggested to Puck Daddy that Japers Rink write the Pens eulogy, so maybe that’s in the works?
#japersforpenseulogy
I believe in JC.
If so, only because we don’t have The Caps Blog to make fun of Bylsma for benching underperforming players and demonstrate our overall ignorance of the game of hockey. If J.P. does it, Puck Daddy’s readers will have to settle for a thoughtful, coherent, and intelligent piece.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
this is an evil plan to make puck daddy implode
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He’s doing it. Read on!
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
As happy I am the Pens lost, it also makes our wounds hurt a little more…..Only the year we win the Presidents Trophy would we potentially have the 7 and 8 seed play in the Eastern Conference Final. Only in our year……Oh what should of been….(sigh)
Here is your fun Sid/Ovie Clutch Stat o' the Day
When facing elimination:
Crosby 2-4-6, -1 (7 gms, 3W, 4L)
Ovechkin 6-5-11, +6 (9 gms, 5W, 4L)
…just sayin’
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 7:16 AM EDT reply actions 10 recs
Crosby is so clutch.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s a sweet stat line. I just can’t wait to hear the Canadian media light into Crosby today for choking. They’re going to do that, right?
Sure they will..when the sun rises in the west. Don’t you know that when Crosby doesn’t score, he still does a lot of the other little things needed to win? And everyone knows that the Penguins loss is really the fault of that Russian guy, Malkin.
like taking bad offensive zone penalties to start the game and allowing mtl to jump on top? yep, the little things.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
C’mon, that was just a captain showing his guys that he can be tough. It’s not his fault his teammates couldn’t kill the penalty. Of course, if Ovechkin did it, he’d be a cheapshot artist who always hits from behind.
hmm, bad penalty, -2, no goals, 5 shots. sounds like the line from another caps russian we love/hate…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
He just wanted to give the midgets a boost.
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From a Tweet last night... (I don't have the source now)...
Gandalf knew it: you have to send Hobbits into Mordor!
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by IRockTheRed on May 13, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
So many lovely Ovi/Sid stats! Thanks for today’s.
by capsyoungguns on May 13, 2010 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
@TarikElBashir
Poti on injury: “They lifted the eyeball out, checked behind it, looked underneath it and thoroughly examined it.” Story in Friday’s Post.
All I can think of is Captain Turner from Deadwood
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I was fairly certain the injury was just about that serious, but I was surprised they didn’t hospitalize him in MTL. I think they kept him completely sedated on the plane back. Mike Green mentioned that he didn’t talk to Tom on the way back but that “the doctors were with him.” And Alzner got the call before they even left the Bell Center.
Holy hell, that’s intense. Lucky lucky man.
But grace can still be found within the gale. With fear and reverence, raise your ragged sail.
by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
oh jesus. And he wanted to play in the second round.
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He needs to be wearing a damn visor. Him, and Laich both.
Honestly, they need to make those things required.
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by IRockTheRed on May 13, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Ugh… ok, I’ll be skipping lunch today…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 13, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
TEB’s story is going to be one hell of a read on the metro tomorrow. Lindsay Applebaum tweeted:
I don’t think I’ve ever been too nauseated by a story to edit, and it has nothing to do with @TarikElBashir’s writing. #tompotiseyeball
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please let america’s team be the sharks and not the habs. the players might be lovable underdogs—okay like one or two of them—but the style of play is just awful. that’s like wanting the pat riley knicks or the fratello cavs to be america’s team. (cue jokes about having never heard of basketball.)
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
That’s where they shoot hit pigskin with a wooden stick into a peach basket, yes?
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Please let the Sharks win.. if only so my wife will be happy. :)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 13, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s all DGB’s fault.
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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 13, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hanlon coachin slovakia? Isn’t Hanlon Canadian? What.. the slovaks can’t find a home grown coach of their own?
Oh wait.. all slovaks qualified for coaching are in the playoffs
Hanlon was also formerly Belarus’ coach.
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It’s not uncommon for North Americans to coach in Europe, even on national teams. The reverse, not so much.
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Bears win! Bears win!
And what a fun game it was too. Everyone was worried they’d be rusty after the long layoff, but they came out guns blazing and Collins scored 16 seconds into the game. Apparently the ‘rust’ showed up in the third, when they seemed to get a little winded and Manchester scored twice.
Here’s an excerpt from Ed Frankovic’s always-excellent gamer:
As I mentioned, Alzner and Carlson were so dominant and there were numerous shifts where they just appeared to be at another level than the others on the ice. Carlson, who was super down the stretch with the Caps, seems to be even more aggressive in the AHL when paired with King Karl and there were several instances where he was almost like a fourth forward on the ice as he helped create lots of offensive chances for Hershey. It is ironic though, that on one of the rare occassions when Alzner jumped up in the play, the Bears scored.
"We don’t talk too much about jumping into the play or anything like that. If he has a chance, I know he is going to go. If I have a chance I’m going to go but I’m going to make sure I let him know to stay back because I’ve found that I’ve learned alot from him this year on just getting my timing better on jumping into the play. So when he was [in Washington] that is what I was doing a lot more. We just have to watch each other because [Manchester] has a great transition game," said #7 on how he and Carlson handle adding offense from the blue line.
Nice game but the attendance was a little disappointing, just 7,700. Maybe Hershey fans are getting spoiled and just waiting for the Finals.
In Bruce’s chat the other day, he mentioned Pinizzotto as a guy who has a chance to crack the roster next year. Sounds like a scrappy dude with a little offensive upside. Anyone who’s seen him in action have a sense of whether he can be effective at the NHL level?
I know he’s got wheels and balls. I don’t know about his hockey sense but if he’s got that I don’t see how he doesn’t at least get a look as a 4th liner in the next few years.
I waited all year for this?
There may not be room in the lineup this coming season, but there will be serious salary cap pain next summer, and we may be waving ’bye to some of our besties.
Agreed. We are getting to the point where we need the cheap HER replacements. Having veterans like Brads, Steckel, and Gordon all at the same time is a luxury that we won’t afford much longer.
I waited all year for this?
The cap situation even this year could tighten up in a hurry, pending what happens with Schultz, Baxter, Fehr and Mr Sec Ondli Necenter.
I’d be perfectly pleased to see some ELC guys pitching in on the 4th line at the expense of Gordo, Brads or Stecks.
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To the latter, I’d hope that’s where guys like A. Gordon or Kyle Wilson could step in and get a look next year.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I have hopes for Gordon. He can skate, has decent hands, and seems to battle. Kyle Wilson is no doubt smart enough, I just wonder if he skates well enough to compensate for his smaller frame. He’s been very opportunistic when I’ve watched him, but I just don’t know if that’s sustainable at the NHL level. I wouldn’t count out Beagle or Pinner either. I think those guys could be our future 4th line.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thought of Pinner also, was going to mention Beagle, then I saw he’s making more that Boyd G. (Capgeek), so I don’t think that’s feasible for a whole year.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
How is he making more than Boyd? Maybe in a couple years he’ll be worth his money.
I waited all year for this?
I had the exact same thought.
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and for those who missed it
find courtesy of YNC from last night’s hockey OT thread:
According to a reputable source, Washington has signed/is close to signing Nick Backstrom to a 10-year, $69 million contract extension. Great cap hit and great term for one of the best centers in the game.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Denied all around by the beat (and by Baxter’s agent).
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Seemed too good to be true from the get-go, being as from what all i’ve read, they don’t want a long-term deal.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
There hasn’t been a chance of that since the 5th grade.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
@DarrenDreger
I don’t expect either Crosby or Staal will accept an invite to Germany and the Worlds. I do expect Messier will ask…today.
So is Dreger implying that Malkin will accept an invite, or he won’t be invited?
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
Russia has filled its available callup slots. They brought up Dats and I think another guy from the K. Each team can add two more skaters and one more goalie before for the second round and then the rosters are final. No room at the inn for Geno.
Found the rule:
From the start of the Qualification Round and Relegation Round (and until two hours before any of the following games), the teams are entitled to add two additional players (skaters or goalkeepers) to their roster.
No players have to be deleted from the roster. From the start of the Qualification Round and the Relegation Round, the teams can thus carry a maximum of 25 players (skaters and goalkeepers in any combination).
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by oldemystix on May 13, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Former Cap Factor
Gonchar + Cooke > Metropolit
by Toddra on May 13, 2010 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
no doubt. who does FCF predict will win it all? no former caps on either western conference team, right?
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Huet on Chicago. I don’t know about anyone on San Jose.
As for Friday, Boston’s got Whitfield, while I think Philthy’s empty.
Philly, not Philty. Don’t bring that stuff here.
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
hey, he/she knew FCF. that’s gotta count for something!
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Im still terrified that Caps management is going to use the “we ran into a ‘team of destiny’” excuse to not make any changes for next year. This win just makes it that much more likely
#NeedsMoreBradley
not likely. team of destiny or not, they should not have lost to the canadiens this year or the pens last year or gone seven with the rangers. changes will be made because everyone knows this team needs center depth and some help on d. even if they had won it all, changes were inevitable.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t worry, there will be a ton of changes this off-season. Almost definitely, they will not resign ShaMo, BMo, Corvo and Walker. They could well trade either Flash or Semin. They’ll promote Alzner full-time and add another top six D-man and they’ll acquire a #2 center. That’s a lot of changes for a team that won the President’s Trophy.
Does that mean we have to root for the Bruins or Flyers in the ECF? I’ll watch the games from within toilet-running distance if that happens.
Every time Matt Bradley scores a goal, everyone inside the Beltway should get the next day off from work. It's only fair.
Wasn’t it just a few weeks ago that so many of us laughed at Washington’s Alex Ovechkin and accused him of gagging against the Montreal Canadiens in the first round of the playoffs? The Not-So-Great 8 could do nothing to prevent his Capitals — the NHL’s President’s Trophy-winning team — from losing Game 7 at home.
Well guess what?
That was Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Sergei Gonchar and Marc-Andre Fleury who hair-balled it against the Canadiens on this night. They not only did nothing to help the Penguins win Game 7 of the second-round series. They sabotaged their chances, putting a premature end not just to the arena, but to their defense of their Stanley Cup.
i take no solace in the fact that the pens loss. doesnt bring the caps season back. however, i do like to see comments like these from the post gazette. the acusations of ov gagging were so overblown and rediculous but made a good story line. seeing the same thing happen to a team that truely “knows how to win in the playoffs” can hopefully put to bed some of the premature and stupid ov v sid comparisons. also hope it takes some of the heat off of BB and the he got outcoached meme. not his finest hour for sure, but byslma won the stanley cup last year. did he get outcoached too?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the boarding call against him was a bit weak. “I was stunned. I don’t know how that’s a penalty,” Crosby said.
All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again
It’s about as clear as boarding can possibly be.
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“but, see, I have this logo on my sweater, it means ’don’t call penalties on me, okay?’ Every other ref in the NHL gets it, I don’t know why that guy doesn’t. He must be Russian!”
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Gabby may be the single worst commercial product spokesperson of all time, which is why his ads are all hilarious and get ironic points. The V-Cast commercial with Ovie, Backs, and MRichards is pretty great, no lie. I think that one got robbed.
Every time Matt Bradley scores a goal, everyone inside the Beltway should get the next day off from work. It's only fair.
Agreed. The Boudreau Mercedes commercials have high production value but he’s so bad, the ads are hilarious. The Ameritel commercials, however, just suck all the way around.
I didn’t like the Ameritel commercials, but the Mercedes ones just cracked me up to no end. I loved Boudreau in those. He’s just hilarious.
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by IRockTheRed on May 13, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
“Hi, I’m Bruce Boudreau: big time hockey coach. My ability to coach is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.”
That’s my fave.
by DrinkingPartner on May 13, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
HAHA, oh i forgot that one. The one with the server:
“He left me an autographed photo as a tip…it’s not even a photo of him!”
Every time Matt Bradley scores a goal, everyone inside the Beltway should get the next day off from work. It's only fair.
by thebigfoist on May 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions
HA!
The NHL must be pissed right now. Is Richards really the most charismatic star left in the East?
Buhhhh.
Every time Matt Bradley scores a goal, everyone inside the Beltway should get the next day off from work. It's only fair.
Fancy that, considering his history with the media.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
If Richards is charismatic, Scott Hartnell is smart.
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by Travis Hughes on May 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Heh. Unfortunately the entire NHL is in seriously short supply of charisma. I’m not sure I could think of 10 players I actually consider charismatic.
I waited all year for this?
True story. It’s very unfortunate.
Hartnell’s actually pretty charismatic. He just isn’t that good. It seems like most of the players with charisma (and the ability to speak English well) are the goony, agitator types — Avery, Carcillo, etc.
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by Travis Hughes on May 13, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
AAA would be out of business in the greater DC metro area.
"If you close your eyes in the NHL, you'll take one upside the head." - Alexander Semin
by mercurialwinger on May 13, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I would puncture my own tires.
John Carlson - Glory follows him.
by boutros23 on May 13, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
From the Hanlon Era Article
“There are always consequences with losing, but in the NHL, if you lose the fourth game of the season, you still have 78 games to go. Here, when you lose one, your life has been altered dramatically. It’s not fun coaching against friends, trust me,” he adds.
Maybe some more NHL playoff experience would’ve changed his perspective….
Congrats to the Canadiens or-ga-ni-zation – their ECHL affiliate advanced, their AHL affiliate advanced, and their NHL team advanced.
That’s pretty impressive.
So out west, its Texas/Hamilton?
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be nice to beat Hamilton in the final to avenge 2005.
I never travel far....without a little Big Star...
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Bondra Interview
The general manager of Washington’s George McPhee said he did not quite understand why Ovechkin and Semin went to the World Cup. “They will not be any better as players.” You agree?
– No. Boys want to fight for their country. They grew up in Russia, there have learned to play hockey. Now it’s time to recover debts. You can not just pick up. If you had the chance to speak for the national team, it can not be missed. McPhee looks at this situation as a manager of the club hockey. This is normal. But the medal has a second side. How to stop the guys, if they rush to the national team?
You have seen a series of playoffs “Washington” with “Montreal”. Why is your former team fiasco?
– I was even in the seventh game … We must pay tribute to the “Canadians”. Their Slovak Galaxy goalkeeper played excellently. A “Washington” started to play as “Montreal”. That is, they imposed a foreign hockey. I’ve seen "Capitals for a month before – it was a fury on the court! And then the Washington "was to act on defense and therefore lost confidence. Moral: You can not change myself.
Full SovSport.ru interview (Google translated) can be found here, but you may have to click the Hockey tab then scroll down to a listing of many articles.
Apparently Halak is a star in more ways than one: his name seems to mean “galaxy.”
"Washington" started to play as "Montreal". That is, they imposed a foreign hockey. I’ve seen "Capitals for a month before – it was a fury on the court! And then the Washington "was to act on defense and therefore lost confidence. Moral: You can not change myself.
Interesting observation from Bonzai. Greenie pretty much said the same thing, that he was trying to concentrate on his play in his own end so he was timid about jumping into the play. Not to take away Halak’s play, but still it’s something to ponder over the summer.
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
Wysh:
Rhymes with “Rapers Jink.” RT @DChi606 Who is writing the Pens eulogy?
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awesome. I’ll be sure to set aside some afternoon for what is sure to be the more glorious eulogy of the 2010 playoffs.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Lamber’s unofficial one for the Red Wings was dynamite
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
It was OK, because at least he pulled out jokes about, you know, hockey.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
And its easy to player hate on the Red Wings.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Ottawa’s. It was easily the best one yet, until JPs, that is.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice. JP is about to drop mad science on the Pens.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on May 13, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
wonder what the comments will be like. i expect alot of “at least we won last year” comments.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
last year don’t mean dick this year, I say. last year means about as much as the regular season.
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true, but this year the caps really should have been favorites in the east, not the pens (IMO, but also by virtue of the regular season). if last year doesn’t mean dick, then the caps loss as a number 1 seed is a lot worse than the pens loss as a number 4 seed. i don’t think we have a lot of leeway to point fingers and feel good about ourselves; honestly, i’d be a little timid if i were in JP’s position writing this thing.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I can understand that. We still haven’t won and they did. I’m sure the sting they feel is less than ours. But at the same time, after all the bullshit we’ve listened to about Crosby being the best winner and what not, it’s nice to see his team lose to a less talented team and for Crosby to be invisible. Honestly, I would just mock TPB Eulogy for the Caps since it was basically a carbon copy. Just swap Flash and Ponikarovsky and you have the entire blueprint for a Eulogy.
And after watching that series, I’m even more convinced that the Caps were better than the Pens this year. Fucking Halak. At least PIT is still in cap hell and doesn’t have much cheap help on the way. They’ll be essentially the same team next year (assuming that Malkin trade stuff is BS). I think we are built better going forward than they are and their stranglehold on the east is broken, so I’m happy.
I said last series that we are a year behind SJS, not PIT. Well, that doesn’t look so bad about now.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 13, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Looking at our team, I feel like we need some tweaks, and less in the team personnel and more in the coaching mindset. Whereas looking at the Pens, they have a lot more holes and question marks personnel-wise, without easy answers.
It’s PD commenters, that should pretty much say it all.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
you wonder about the puck daddy comments?
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pens rulez! Wings droolz!
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Who would have thought that right now the Pens would be done and the Flyers would still be skating a week ago. Back then, it was 2-2 in the Pens/Habs series and the B’s had a 3-0 lead on the Flyboys….
Go Flyerzzzz
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by MikeL-Pivonka on May 13, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Who said he was doing it? I thought Grapers’ Drink was.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Barton Fink?
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by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Finally....
…that godforsaken [Avery]hole of a place is going to be torn down. I am speaking about the Pittsburgh Civic Mellon Arena.
Here’s hoping they’re going to implode it.
Here’s hoping that they have an auction for charity to be the person who sets of the dynamite to implode the place.
Here’s hoping Ted Leonsis wins that auction.
To quote the Joker (in the Dark Knight graphic novel…):
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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If there was a charity auction to be the person to press the button to send Mellon to rubble, they could probably get a six-figure contribution from a Caps fan.
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by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d start a whole new pledge drive just so a Rink’er could blow the place up.
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
If they do it, count. me. IN.
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by IRockTheRed on May 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anyone have a feed for the RUS/BLR game?
I see Sasha had a hooking penalty 33 seconds into the 1st period.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
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wish I could watch this game if streaming video wasn’t blocked at work. How does Varly look?
by vtcapsfan99 on May 13, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty good he had some nice saves. 3-0 now btw.
What can I say I’m a JP fangirl. I will follow him into the darkest and filthiest of alleys, even the comment section at Puck Daddy.
Is it kinda lame that I felt excited/happy just reading Varly’s name in goal on the stats sheet? It’s going to be a long off-season.
by vtcapsfan99 on May 13, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
there goes the shutout for Varly. How did the goal look?
by vtcapsfan99 on May 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
He made the initial save but the defense didn’t clear away the rebounds not Varlys fault.
Belarus just had a open net and somehow Varly managed to make a save with his right leg. Great, great save.
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Game over – Varly had 37 saves on 38 shots. Related: Belarus should never have had 38 SOG. Russia needs to tighten its D a bit.
Maybe Ovechkin should try backchecking.
Go watch video of the first two goals in Game 5 Flyerz!
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How did Semin look? Other than taking an early penalty?
by vtcapsfan99 on May 13, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
a succinct summation of the crosby-AO situation at hand, with all the relevant links, from jamie fitzpatrick.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
In answer to the last question, I’m guessing “coddle.”
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by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Pens Fans Roster[de]bating has started
Over on Pensburgh they’re talking about what they do next year. I recognize all the classic signs from our own playoff demise.
The Pens are in a bit of trouble. They have about $10M in cap space, and they need 3 wingers (one each for the top 3 lines) and 3 defensemen. If you believe Alex Goligoski is a legit Top-4 defense, then they need a partner for him and two bottom pair guys. If you think Goligoski is a bottom pair guy, then they need 2 top-4 defense and a 6th D to partner with Gogo.
One of their wings will have to be Eric Tangradi, who is on an EL deal. He’s been inconsistent in the A, so he’ll have to take a big step forward.
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One of their wings will have to be Eric Tangradi, who is on an EL deal. He’s been inconsistent in the A, so he’ll have to take a big step forward.
thank goodness for karlznerson.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
You got that right. At the risk of hyperbole, I can’t think of anything more important to a team than getting significant contributions from guys on EL deals.
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Nashville’d be fucked without EL deals.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
And many other guys. You look at how many AHL guys that we could give NHL duty to and we are spoiled. They don’t have many at all. Thank God.
I waited all year for this?
Sorta. There’s a point when you have to give guys a chance and good GMs do that. I know Hainsey has talked about it a lot; the Habs had him buried in the minors and gave him a chance by putting him on waivers even though they could have gotten something back. Part of me thinks maybe GMGM was doing that for CBo. Our guys aren’t there yet but it’s a valid concern.
I waited all year for this?
In other farm news, Dustin Stevenson is in Hershey, and so is Delly. But John Walton (on Twitter) said he didn’t know how long they would be staying. I’m not sure how to parse that.
The Penguins do not have a very strong or deep farm system. Their team is more or less the core of Crosby-Malkin-Fleury-Staal and whoever they cobble together around it. Letang and Goligoski are decent defensemen, but I’m not thinking there is much more upside to either one of them. The rest of the team is quite literally interchangeable parts. That’s good, in a way, because it should never be a source of cap problems. It’s bad in another way because you’re always forced to tinker with spots you really shouldn’t have to be tinkering with on a continuing basis (like the wingers on the top line? Getting wingers, period?)
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by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
sign no. 592 you’re desperate for wingers: You attempt to have C.Bo play full time in the NHL. eeeeeeeek!
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Letang will probably have to play top-pair minutes next year, which is a notch above where he ought to be, imo. Same with Goligoskion the second pairing.
On one hand it’s great to have Staal as your 3C, in that he’s easily the best 3C in the league. On the other, his $4M cap hit is a lot to allocate to 3C, and that is part of the struggle at wing.
The lack of talent in the farm is a problem, as they are going to have to settle for journeymen types due to the cap situation. They might be able to splurge on one talented wing, but if he gets injured they’re screwed.
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I’d wager they take a step back next year.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats obvious. SCF two years in a row to 2nd round exit.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
We might already have seen that team’s high point. The key with that team isn’t so much Crosby as it is Malkin. He’s the player — a no. 2 guy who is world class — that no other team has. If he;’s on, the Penguins could dress chipmunks on his line and win games.
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by ThePeerless on May 13, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Here’s what I posted over at PensBurgh:
First, Condolences
If anyone knows how you feel this morning, it’s a Caps fan, and I know it’s not fun.The main thing the Pens need, and it’s just what they’re going to get, is rest. With some extra time off, Crosby and Malkin probably go back to being dominant. When those guys are dominant, you can win games with journeymen wingers. When they’re not, you can’t. Malkin looked like he had nothing in the tank all year, and Sid certainly looked like he was out of gas in this last series. Hey, it happens. They’ve played a lot of extra hockey these past 3 seasons.
If it were me, I’d concentrate on keeping the strength down the middle and concentrate the available cap dollars at the D positions. Then add in warm bodies at the wings. With the $10M available, if you add a couple hot FA wings, you’re going to eat up the heart and liver of that cap space and then you’re truly screwed on D.
All the teams have holes, now, thanks to the salary cap. The Pens can bank on depth down the middle, competent defense and goaltending, and try to scrape enough goals out of the wings to make a run.
I’m not on board the step-back wagon. As Peerless noted, if Malkin is on his game, he can carry his line. I’m betting the Pens recharge their batteries and are a force to be reeckoned with next year.;
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by fat_daddyo on May 13, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
THN is already suggesting the Pens trade Malkin (the suggestion being Malkin and a low pick to Edmonton for the 1st, Svensson, and Souray).
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by red army line on May 13, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Hah! A #1 overall is a near-guaranteed all-star, who has to play for entry-level money for 3 years. I’d rather have that than Malkin with his cap number.
You had me at no problem.
Well, that than Malkin playing behind Sid maybe. But hey, I just look at TOR and Kessel and that means Malkin is worth a ton.
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by red army line on May 13, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Boswell brings the burn in chat today. Wow.
Kearneysville, WV: Yes, you are correct, the Habs did beat the Pens and Capitals. Can we now say that guy Crosby is over rated since his ‘team’ lost to Montreal and he only scored one goal in seven games? These comparisons seem ridiculous.
Tom Boswell: Oh, I thought Crosby missed the whole series with an injury. Wasn’t he out with two broken ankles?
He played like it.
Ovechkin was good against the Habs, just not goods enough. Crosby stunk it up. Who cares if Canada won the Olympics? Hockey is their sport. They should. Big deal. (Okay, I know it’s a big deal.) But, right now, I’d take Eight over Crosby.
Last night, after his stupid penalty in the first 10 seconds the biggest play/mistake of the game since it gave the habs an instant 1-0 lead Crosby just disappeared. Did he and Gonchar have a plane to catch?
As for lame excuses, I’ve never heard Ovechkin say anything like Crosby’s whine: “I don’t know how that’s a penalty (for boarding) in the first 10 seconds of Game Seven. Yes, I’m stunned.”
They called it for the same reason it’s been called in every minute of the season, dope. It wasn’t even close. If Ovechkin had done it, it would have been called borderline dirty, too.
Crosby was “stunned” because they had the guts to call it on HIM in his own building.
I always hated the Igloo. Nothing but bad memories. Glad to see ‘em close the barn that way.
The Pens lost even though they had been given fair warning by the Caps-Habs series that Monmtreal was good, hot and playing a system that would thwart their style. That just says to me that they were ready to be taken and that, if the Caps had beaten Molntreal, they’d have handled the Pens, too. That’s what I thought all season undefeated vs Pitts and I think it even more now.
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 7 recs
I’m just shocked Boswell spent more than 100 words on something that’s NOT the Natinals.
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by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
So true that if Ovie had leveled a hit like that it would have been controversial, where as Crosby does it and it’s just a mental mistake. However, I don’t think most writers are going to take it easy on Crosby based on what I’ve seen/heard so far. He’ll get his just criticism.
you know, because I only watched the last two minutes of the game. I haven’t seen the hit. Do you know if its online anywhere?
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Here at ESPN recap
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=5185039
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jesus, if Ovie did that, his face would be on WANTED posters.
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If Ovechkin had hit that guy in that position, there would be blood and teeth all over the boards. Crosby is lucky he’s not big enough to have gotten a major for it.
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oh my god, can you imagine the hissy fit he would have thrown if they handed him a major?
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Boz added these points:
Bruce Boudreau’s wonderful chat here yesterday, always so honest, seems to show that the Caps have curled up for the summer with the Hot Goalie, We’re Better, We Didn’t Really Choke, Don’t Need To Change Much line of easiest possible excuses. There’s truth in all of those points. But you don’t get better by focusing on them. You need to look at one goal in each of the last three games and say, “That isn’t ALL the goalie. If you let those guys get even one goal ahead, they’ve mastered a style that’ll drive you crazy if you can’t score in close and ugly.”
On point, at least where BB’s public utterances have been. Sure hope GMGM or Bruce himself realizes that it just ain’t so…
by cuqui on May 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
the way AO carries himself on the ice makes me proud to be a caps fan. in general, he takes a lot of crap and stays above it. and during the captaincy discussion, i don’t think he was given enough credit for his maturity—again, on the ice, but also with the press. the right answer to every media landmine question, without fail.
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
same here. And that goes for the team; so many of those guys carry themselves on and off the ice in ways that make me proud to call myself a Caps fan.
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I feel proud too. If anything I believe that Ovi takes too much of the blame for losses on himself. But I’ve always loved that about him, how quickly he takes on the responsibility for the teams’ play. In general I think the whole team acquitted themselves well after the series loss. Starting with Ovi they all were complimentary of how the Habs and Halak played. They showed respect for their opponents.
by capsyoungguns on May 13, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Next Ovi vs. Sid Battleground
Prediction —
Somebody somewhere will make a big deal about how much is spent on the Crosby jersey compared to how much is spent on the Ovechkin jersey.
Crosby’s now at $7,100.
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Crosby’s jersey now at $56,100.
Every bursted bubble has a glory! Each abysmal failure makes a point! Every glowing path that goes astray,shows you how to find a better way. So every time you stumble never grumble. Next time you'll bumble even less!
I’ve got a lot of better uses for that kind of money (I understand it’s for charity, but that’s beside the point).
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That’s too rich for me as well.
I wonder what the collector’s valuation is anyway?
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But Would You Pay $75,000?
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but that’s the jersey that he wore when he scored the 5th goal in an 8-2 squeeker against germany. a major historical artifact.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I have decided
..
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/hockey/nhl/05/13/montreal.celebration.ap/index.html
.. that I only want the Caps to win the Stanley Cup so it gives me a chance to riot and loot. That’s right.. all you electronics stores near Chinatown.. watch out next year.
Wonder which is going to be more brutal – my Pens eulogy or my Flash Wrap.
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by J.P. on May 13, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Flash FTL.
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
by fat_daddyo on May 13, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ooooooooooh, difficult decision. (how goes the writing, btw?)
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I like how Farber attributed the Habs win to ‘karma’ in his headline last night.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
really? Farber did that?
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions
His article is all about how the Habs were good, whereas when he wrote last series it was all about how the Caps were bad.
Three mentions of Crosby. Nothing negative. Note the word choice:
the goalie and swarming Canadiens defenders would hold Malkin and Crosby to a combined three goals in the series.
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yeah, he’s not quite of the Boswell school of thought on Crosby, is he?
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What’s he going to say? Last week he annointed Crosby for sainthood. He’d look like the idiot he is if he actually called Sid out for his craptacular play in this series.
he always looks like an idiot, it wouldn’t be new territory for him.
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Too bad I only have one rec for this. Guys like him need to learn to tamp down on the hyperbole to keep from looking from stupid.
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Well, in this week’s SI, Farber’s got a big piece on the great goal scoring addition that Satan has brought to the Bruins. Of course, since he wrote it, the Bruins have lost three straight and Satan hasn’t scored a goal.
More importantly, which do we WANT to be more brutal?
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 13, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s the part I’m really struggling with. I think I’m looking for different kinds of brutal.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Your Flash wrap will be balanced as always. You’ll have the good and the bad.
I mean — Erskine’s was balanced, right?
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EBay Product Misrepresentation
If you won this auction would you really be getting as advertised?
Marc-Andre Fleury Olympic Game Worn Team Canada Jersey
Shouldn’t it be “Bench Worn?”
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by STLSpidey on May 13, 2010 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
did they even let him sit on the bench? I thought he was Canada’s representative to Press Box Parliament.
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He backed up Brodeur or Lou once so he could get a medal.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bears updates via Tim Leone:
Optional practices are typical the day after a game in the playoffs. But since their Game 1 win over Manchester Wednesday night followed a 12-day layoff, the Hershey Bears went to work Thursday at Giant Center.
“We’ve had enough days off,” head coach Mark French said. "It probably would have been a typical option day coming off a game, but we thought that skating would be the right thing.
"It wasn’t by any means a real hard practice. But it probably was more strenuous than our usual [day-after-game work]."
The only players missing from the Game 1 lineup were John Carlson and Mathieu Perreault.
Due to a death in the family, Carlson left after the game Wednesday night and was scheduled to return to the team Thursday night.
Perreault got the practice off due to a minor lower-body injury but is listed as probable for Game 2. The centerman exited late in the first period but returned to finish the game and didn’t appear to be slowed.
"Just a maintenance day," French said. "Obviously could have skated. We didn’t want to put anybody in a position to practice that would benefit more from a day off."
oh no! Poor John, my condolences.
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I’ve been outrageously busy over the last few days, so apologies if this was previously posted.
For those of you who like GVT:
A spreadsheet going back to 1944
I said this on twitter, but two things really jump out at me:
Bobby Orr putting up 30+ five out of six years from ‘70-’75 is, well, unbelievable. You guys know that I’m not a huge fan of comparing across positions or teams with GVT, but holy crap. Those same seasons, he was putting up no less than 9.9 in his defensive GVT (No one hit that level this season) and as high as 14.6. The average player back then wasn’t as good as the average player now, so the really great ones stood out more, but even so, those are boggling numbers.
The other thing is Dominik Hasek’s dominance in the late ‘90s. Those of you who look at GVT stats, look at these numbers for goaltender value: 42.6, 56.6(!), 40.0, 51.9, 57.1(!!), 56.1. You have got to be kidding me. If those numbers are even remotely accurate, the Vezina voters had it right and Hasek has been robbed in discussions about greatest of all time. For reference, Roy’s best season is a 37.3, Brodeur posted a 31.8 in ‘96-’97, Plante posted a pair of 43.3s five years apart, Sawchuk posted a 35.5 in his third season and Dryden put up a 49.5 while never getting over 35 in any other season. According to GVT (an admittedly flawed and non-conclusive tool), the comparisons aren’t even close. It’s Hasek in a landslide.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I’ve always been of the opinion that Hasek in his prime was better than any other goaltender in NHL history. He was just absurd.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 13, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
But then you throw in longevity for the greatest of all time discussion and that’s where Roy and Brodeur pull ahead.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 13, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, and that should be a factor, but if I had to choose any goalie in his prime to backstop my team, I would pick Hasek over anyone.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on May 13, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If we want to arbitrarily declare a 25 GVT season as elite (top 5-10 goalies for that season), Roy has 6 seasons at that level, Brodeur has 3, Hasek has 8 over a 14 year span. Again, GVT is flawed, but it’s pretty clearly still Hasek by that metric. Guy played from ’90-2008 and a bunch of those years were flat out dominating in a way that Brodeur and Roy never were. They all had long, productive careers, Hasek was just better.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
These GVT ratings back that up. I forgot to mention this, but those numbers were consecutive seasons. You can’t cherry-pick better numbers from the other goalies in the discussion. You can’t even cherry-pick GVT numbers from all of them put together to match that stretch. It’s…impressive.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
While scrolling through, I got a chuckle out of who’s at #285 and #287 in career total GVT. Yes, my friends, 09-10 will truly go down in history…as the year that Sidney Crosby finally passed Michael Nylander in GVT!
(yes, I kow…5 years vs 15 years…whatever, I’m bored)
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on May 13, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sid is all heart and passion and determination while Nyls is a soft, lazy European!
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And it was also only a few years ago...
…that Crosby overtook Nylander for better hair!
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on May 13, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
GVT isn’t great comparing across teams, I can only imagine the flaws of comparing across eras. Comparing the goaltending numbers at the times that Roy and Hasek started their careers is not easy.
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by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
GVT is faaaaar from a perfect tool for evaluating across teams and positions, I agree. As far as era goes, I find it somewhat suspicious that the two highest generators of offensive GVT played in the most-wide open, highest scoring era ever. The late early 70s when Orr was playing were pretty high scoring as well. That said, Roy and Hasek are fairly contemporary in that they have significant career overlap and are near the same age. Hasek, however, hit his prime right as the game got trappy, whereas Roy did most of his heavy lifting (but certainly not all) before ‘96. It’s hard to know what Roy’s numbers would have looked like on the Sabres and vice-versa, but there’s not that much difference in era here. Hasek was the Sabres, much in the way that Roy was the Canadiens, he just couldn’t quite get over the playoff hump.
With the Avs though, Roy gets a lot of help. Some of those late 90s Avs squads were silly-loaded.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 14, 2010 6:18 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There isn’t a huge difference in era, but I think the difference you pointed out is extremely significant in looking at career stats. Roy played for almost a decade in a much more wide open game, and the major reason there is significant overlap between their careers is because Roy was a top goalie in the league for almost 20 years.
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by Killer_Carlson on May 14, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Goodbye, Igloo. Goodbye, house of horrors, of early exits and blown series leads. Goodbye, Ghost of Marios Past and Present. Goodbye and good. Fucking. Riddance.
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by Knee high to a duck on May 13, 2010 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 10 recs
hey, you forgot “Ghosts of having to rework the playoff schedule because of monster trucks/Wrestlemania/Yanni”!
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monster trucks/Wrestlemania
Since when was Mellon Arena in Birmingham?
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s a little slice of Alabama in northern Appalachia!
and, no, I’m not entirely joking.
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I feel like one of my PA friends described their state as follows: there’s Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, and in between…Arkansas.
You’re referring, of course, to Pennsyltucky.
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On an unrelated note: is it me or could The Copper and Blue have done a little better job than what they turned in?
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed there. Ben Massey shoulda done it, he’s awesome. Read his post on having no one to cheer for today.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions
but two of the more glorious caps playoff overtime goals were scored there…stecks and halpy…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on May 13, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m trying to decide it I should break out the Stecks Saves Kittens picture. The Pens fan in the background is hilarious.
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I don't know who this guy is, but I laugh every time I see him
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the guy to the far left in the second row….Face-Palm. Tee-hee!
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It’s like a great artist masterpiece. Everytime I look at it, I see something new. I could stare at it for hours and get lost in the brilliance of the fan reactions.
Hey, when my shit hits the fan Pens eulogy posts at 4, can someone FanShot it and direct discussion over there? I am, of course, interested in what you guys think, and we’re not going to front-page it or anything (and I’m going to be in transit).
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wait, you’re making us post on a blog without threaded conversations and without the Z button?
by Natty Bumppo on May 13, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he means a FanShot over here for discussion in one thread. Idiot.
I waited all year for this?
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by oldemystix on May 13, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll fanshot it.
only 24 very long minutes to go
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Are we sure it will post at exactly 4 pm? I want to go run an errand, and I’m waiting. :-)
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Leahy just tweeted that its at 4, which I assume is EST.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
it better be. If I have to wait until 4:01, I’m going to be pissed.
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Schedule post feature FTW.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
It makes us look quite organized.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus… this is being way oversold. Prepare to be disappointed…
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if not, I’m sure we can bring kittens to the discussion.
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If it does, somebody’s getting a bill for services rendered.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
it’s past 4 pm and it’s still not up. Wysh, you see what happens when you leave that good-for-nothing Pens fan in charge?!
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by RedBirdie on May 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that can be read in a couple of different ways….
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Let the overreacting begin!!!!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 2:47 PM EDT reply actions
Trading Malkin would do a number of things for the Pens. First, it would net Pittsburgh a winger to play with Crosby; God only knows what type of numbers he could put up with something more than an average player to pass the puck to.
well, um, you see, ah, we saw what happened when Sid had “more than an average player to pass the puck to” at the Olympics. I believe the end result was: not pretty
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Yeah.
They won gold. :(
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
shhhhhhhhhhhhh. If the Canadian media can be highly selective in the way they present Crosby, so can I!
gold or not, he still completely failed to click with any of those elite wingers.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the logic that lets this genius write this:
That Habs’ plan worked to the nth degree and exposed the Pens’ ugly underbelly. Take away those three guys and there’s basically nothing left up front to scare anyone
And then says “Trade Malkin to the Oilers and draft Taylor Hall”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on May 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you want to send Semin and Alzner to the Pens for Malkin. Sid gets a wing, they add defensive depth thats better than Goligoski or Letang. You get that 2C for Fehr and Laich.
/mostly joking
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps should send Flash, Sloan, and a pick to the Pens for Malkin, gives the Pens cap space, and 2 wingers or 1 winger & 1 dman to help fill their holes this offseason
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by Elliotte on May 13, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is all silliness. We obviously cannot have Ovie @ $9MM, Backstrom @~$7.5MM, Malkin @ $8.7MM, Semin @ $6MM. That’s over $30MM in salary for 4 forwards.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait, that’s not how it works? Shit, we’ve got a problem.
/Blackhawks management
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I do think that the league would be better of with NHL-style contracts, not guaranteed ones. Enable teams to cut under-performing players, or restructure contracts.
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I hate teams being unable to move players with bloated contracts. It strangles franchises for years.
You had me at no problem.
Ted is still paying it. For the salary cap we got off the hook, and there will always be ways to do that, but Ted didn’t just get to say “you stink, I’m not honoring the deal.”
I waited all year for this?
I think that if the terms of the deal were “you are entitled to X dollars every year for as long as you perform sufficiently”, and not “you are X dollars every year even if you choose to take a dump on the ice 82 times a season”, I would be happier.
Players who get cut are welcome to seek a new deal with whomever they choose for as much money as someone else wants to pay them. It’d be much better all around for everyone, except maybe Roberto Luongo.
You had me at no problem.
So what about guys that vastly over-perform? Do they have a right to hold out? I personally like knowing that AO is in the fold for the next decade. He can’t decide he doesn’t like it and just nix the deal. It works both ways.
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Well, the NFL’s system is what I contrast the NHL’s system with, and the NFL’s seems to be working quite well. Clubs have all the leverage once a player is under contract in the NFL. On the other hand, NFL players get a huge lump sum payment just for putting pen to paper. It’s a trade-off which tends to give players large incentives to perform, and clubs the ability to jettison players who do not perform.
There is, you mention, the issue of underpaid players holding out. Both systems have their problems, but I prefer the more flexible one.
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There are a ton of differences. First, NFL players are drafted at 21-22 normally so they are much more developed and you have a better idea what you are getting. I also hate the fact that rookies who have never played have all that leverage and can demand huge dollars. I’d rather the money go toward the veterans that have proven something. Then you have to consider the higher injury rate in the NFL.
The NHL could stand to be more flexible, and Brian Burke definitely is vocal about that, but I hate the way contracts work in the NFL. They are essentially meaningless if you aren’t the owner or the player. The fact that either party can void a contract is ridiculous.
I waited all year for this?
Injuries are a great point. If you get injured badly, you want to be under a long-term guaranteed contract. But NFL players don’t have that luxury, despite the higher injury rates. NHL players have that luxury, and they don’t get hurt as often(but I would argue that when they do get seriously injured, it tends to be much worse in the NHL, thanks to pucks to the head and skate lacerations).
Players can’t void contracts in the NFL. If they’re under contract and don’t like it, tough. Only the team is allowed to end the contract. Players can try to make a lot of noise and convince the team to renegotiate, but the team can tell the player to pound sand.
You had me at no problem.
solution: don’t sign guys to bloated contracts!
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I can’t wait to watch them implode in three years with Keith, Toews, Kane, Hossa, and a bunch of Quintin Laings.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
All depends on how they handle the summer. They could set themselves to be great for a long time. And part of me expects they will.
I waited all year for this?
Yeah, but a man can have his optimism. I’m kinda enjoying watching Chicago and Detroit have problems with their future when Nashville has the best farm system in the league (per HF, of course, which I somewhat disagree with) and will be operating with a full budget soon. Trotz and Poile have never been able to spend up to the cap ceiling. Can’t wait.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah you should be excited. I’m just saying CHI is going to be able to say “we have a bunch of guys that have been (at least) to two straight WCF, you better offer something good.” And then let the bidding frenzy happen and cherrypick some good deals. I guarantee they end up with some first round picks and good-to-great prospects out of this. If they play it right they can re-tool very quickly, I think.
I waited all year for this?
True; and I think Detroit will be in more trouble than Chicago. And lets face it, Hossa/Toews/Keith/Kane is still a playoff team even if you are capstrung.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
True story. And they won’t lose the entire supporting cast and they’ve got at least a couple promising prospects. If Niemi continues to play good hockey they could be fine.
I waited all year for this?
I went into the NSH/CHI series thinking Niemi was a product of the ridiculous shot differential and Chicago’s good D (and that Rinne was much better). I still think Rinne is much better but Niemi’s no slouch. The way he’s played so far is enough to win a Cup.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s actually very intriguing. I’m not sure Semin and Alzner are enough.
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That would be the meat of the deal. Perhaps a pick or mid tier prospect, but I don’t think the proposal is unfathomable IF we’re talking about trading Malkin and getting the Pens winger help.
But, since I think trading Geno is ridiculous its a moot point really.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t begrudge them their hysteria especially in lieu of trading Chatty McChubbycheeks. Although they should never have locked up both of them (not to mention Staal) for the deals they did either in money or in term.
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Just. Plain. Rude.
"Do not be afraid to ask for credit, for our way of refusing is very polite."
by Laich It Or Lump It on May 13, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Okay, so anyone know when Mellon is sheduled for implosion? Bus+beer+Caps fans in jerseys+a good view of the implosion=good time.
Probably an entirely random date like August 7.
by EmilyB on May 13, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sweet, I’m going if it’s August 7th. I got nothing going on.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
(You do know that’s Sid’s birthday, right? 8/7. In other words, not so random. If that was the date. Which it probably isn’t.)
I had forgotten that. Wouldn’t surprise me if they did set it up like that.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on May 13, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
So last night I was in a bar surrounded by Pens fans. I kept clapping and cheering the Habs and these guys started making fun of me for being Canadian and a Habs fan. I didn’t say anything, just kept clapping and cheering. Now I know how Becca feels. F&B H.!
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 13, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
F/B, you still around?
The Canes just acquired Jared Staal for a 5th round pick.
I don’t believe any joke needs to be made here.
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I just….what? huh? WHY????
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Eric needs someone to pick on?
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or Jared’s head is so far up his ass that the only team that even thinks they have a chance of salvaging him is a team with his older brother.
I waited all year for this?
Carolina had a shaky season, but they aren’t a halfway house for wayward Staals.
Looks like I picked the wrong season to stop sniffing glue.
they aren’t a halfway house for wayward Staals.
The Lutsen Resort and Sea Villas on the other hand…
They're coming.
by Bald Pollack on May 13, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
More likely this. Isn’t he supposedly the most talented?
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea. I’ve said that, and I heard his dad say that around the time Jared was drafted, but I just don’t believe it looking at the numbers. If he’s that talented he should put up better numbers in the OHL even if he doesn’t give a shit.
I waited all year for this?
Yeah. I just don’t make a habit of keeping tabs on bitchy Canadian families.
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen an interview in which they all agree that Eric is the most talented, but is also called out for being the laziest of the Children of the Sod.
Looks like I picked the wrong season to stop sniffing glue.
Eric is the oldest. Jared is the youngest. So that would apply to Jared. But to me, Eric does look like the most skilled of the bunch.
I waited all year for this?
True. When he cares to show up, his game is very strong — hovering somewhere just beneath Backstrom, which may be higher praise then he deserves. The big problem with CaneStaal is his seemingly lackadaisical approach to team play.
Looks like I picked the wrong season to stop sniffing glue.
FanShot to discuss JP’s Pens eulogy here.
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thanks for getting that link up, Love Jesus! :)
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You bet. :)
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by Chris Burton on May 13, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s a nice recap of Pensburgh GDTs here. Rec it, read it…make a post like it? I’m sure if we put our heads together…
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
they sure spend a rather inordinate amount of time discussing the Caps and Ovie, don’t they?
my favorite posts were missing. they were along the lines of:
MY GOD, BYSLMA, YOU"RE SUCH AN IDIOT! WHY THE HELL ARE YOU PULLING THE GOALIE?!?! GODDAMN IT, OVECHKIN SCORED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!! FIRE BYLSMA!!!!!!!! STUPIDEST COACH EVER
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I also love how the highlights from one of the Caps vs. pens game is all Rink regulars.
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Helmer on being the AHL’s all-time leader in postseason games played (127 and counting): "I’m excited about it. It just shows I’ve been lucky to be on some good teams and go pretty far in the playoffs."
More bears goodness at the link too, BTW.
Crazy video of the MTL riots last night:
http://habsinsideout.com/main/34937
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Getting a jump on tomorrow clips, TEB’s Poti story is up.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/13/AR2010051304265.html
He says he’s definitely wearing a visor next year and he’s going to campaign to get the other guys who don’t to wear one.
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Slowing the process of Poti’s recovery in recent days has been a pair of minor setbacks: first an allergic reaction to the eye drops he had been prescribed,
Of. Course.
I waited all year for this?
by Rob Parker on May 13, 2010 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, I meant to point that out too. Figures he’d find a drug allergy too.
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Thanks for the article GF. Good read even if i think calling him the team’s “best defensive defenseman” is a bit overstating it
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by Rather Bengt on May 13, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
How is it possible that no Capital won any of the Alternative NHL Awards ?
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