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Saturday Caps Clips: Getaway Day Recap

via the shoebox next to my desk

Your savory breakfast links:

  • Japers' Rink Radio is in your ear at 10:00 this morning... but only if you do the right thing and check it out.
  • Yesterday was "you ain't gotta go home but you've gotta get up out of here" day out at Kettler, and here are some highlights (kudos to those out there who brought it yesterday):
  • A couple of radio hits: Ted Leonsis with LaVar and Chad and GMGM on EITM.
  • Leonsis talks Caps (and other stuff you don't care about). [CSN Washington]
  • We did a brief post-mortem over at FtR. [From the Rink]
  • Another really good breakdown of shots, saves and frustration. [EOTP]
  • So what's next? [Masisak, Peerless]
  • Was Semin not as bad as you think (alternately teased as "Lies, damned lies, and statistics")? [Hockey or Die, not once but twice]
  • T.V. champions! [Bog]
  • So that wasn't the biggest upset ever? Of course, those other teams were never up three-games-to-one. [Puck Update]
  • From the not-funny-but-out-there-so-I'm-passing-'em-along file, these. [DCEx, ESPN, Bloge Salming (ok, that one's pretty funny)]
  • This is bizarrely hilarious. [Xtra Normal (via @JTBourne)]
  • Won't somebody please think of the agents? [Forbes]
  • If the Caps were to do as Kevin Allen suggests, they might as well change their colors to maize and blue. Just say no to Marty Turco (hey, that sorta rhymes). [USAToday]
  • More "scalpel, not hacksaw" logic. [Hockey or Die, Duhatschek]
  • One of the questions I've been struggling with over the past few days is, "How am I supposed to care about next regular season?" Apparently I'm not the only one asking. [TSN]
  • AO is an mythical beast. Or something. [Copper & Blue]
  • A seat from the Capital Centre. Want. [eBay, via Mr. I]
  • Happy 40th birthday to Reggie Savage and happy 49th to Clint Malarchuk.
  • Finally, on behalf of all of us at The Rink, thanks to all of you who made this season so much fun and worthwhile in our little corner of the Intertubes (even if Mick Kern thinks 80% of you are jackasses, we know better... it's more like 50/50). April was yet another record-breaking month for us in terms of traffic, but, more importantly, it was great to have both a cheering section and a support group to join when events warranted. So thanks for that - you guys are the best.

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One of the advantages of having to be up at 4:30 on a Saturday is being able to say “first.”

And now I feel like a giant tool.

Tic Tac Toe Hockey -- Original Caps Photography For The Fan With Compromised Standards
Jack Hazard Photography
"Here's the thing about potential: There's potential, and then there's reality. I mean, nobody had more potential than Ted Kaczynski." --Adam Carolla

by turnituptoeleven on May 1, 2010 4:51 AM EDT reply actions   2 recs

You’re lucky I was out getting a snack at the time this was posted.

And what brings the Clips up so early today?

I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 5:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

ninth.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 1, 2010 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

And now I feel like a giant tool.

Can everyone rec me too? Jesus.

Tic Tac Toe Hockey -- Original Caps Photography For The Fan With Compromised Standards
Jack Hazard Photography
"Here's the thing about potential: There's potential, and then there's reality. I mean, nobody had more potential than Ted Kaczynski." --Adam Carolla

by turnituptoeleven on May 1, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So there was either no point to your post to begin with, or you’ve been around long enough to know better. Thanks?

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 1, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

So there was either no point to your post to begin with.

I think it was pretty clear I was just screwing around in the initial post.

Tic Tac Toe Hockey -- Original Caps Photography For The Fan With Compromised Standards
Jack Hazard Photography
"Here's the thing about potential: There's potential, and then there's reality. I mean, nobody had more potential than Ted Kaczynski." --Adam Carolla

by turnituptoeleven on May 2, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your initial post sounded like a joke, anyhow. Seems that some people can’t take a joke.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 2, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Seems that some people can’t take a joke.

Right. That’s what it is.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 2, 2010 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is so deliciously ironic.

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on May 2, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m glad it seems like Belanger wants to come back. I’d like if the Caps re-signed him for the 3rd line.

I’d say it’s normal lip service, toeing the parting line and hedging his bets; but he could always say “I’m going to wait until July 1st and will keep my options until then”.

I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 5:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Belanger coming back means a couple of things (not good things either).

He will take either Perreaults spot on the 3rd line or center the 2nd line, both bad ideas IMO. I think the organization really needs to make a move to acquire something moderately substantial during the off-season.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 1, 2010 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mind Belanger coming back one bit. He at least showed up and played playoff hockey.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

7GP 0G 1A 14ATOI – Playoff
17GP 2G 4A 14ATOI – Regular

He was good on the dots but nothing else stands out. He lost teeth and came back to play, thats cool but hardly a reason to give him a job. He really didn’t show me any signs of being able to make it happen offensively with any of our forwards.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 1, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

He played well defensively and even if the points weren’t there the puck possession and skating was. Also stepped up his physical game even after losing his teeth. Give him more time with a set line and think he could have some offensive chemistry.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

And let’s not that Belanger was a faceoff god during the playoffs. His 66.7% was the best in the entire league with 100 or more faceoffs.

by b.orr4 on May 1, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steckel was similarly studly in the dots last year, and look where that got him.

More broadly, don’t sign a #3C for $2m+ just because he’s good at faceoffs. Stephane Yelle was free to a good home all year. Guys like that grow on trees.

2009-2010 Washington Capitals: Watery, with a smack of ham.

by D'ohboy on May 1, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

(It’s even worse when you do a million plus for a 4C when you have a redundant piece in the organization)

Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!

by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the time, we all were happy with that contract though. I’m hopeful Steckel bounces back next year.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I absolutely hope he bounces back, but he needs to work on his skating really badly. In the offseason, I pray he’s focused almost exclusively on footspeed – it’s killing him, and us, on the PK right now.

I know some people were opposed to the term and money for a 4C who hasn’t even locked down the job at the time, it’s not like the reaction was universally positive.

Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!

by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he needs to head up up with Laich for skating lessons. He’s not a horrible skater, is tall as a redwood and respect on faceoffs. If he improves his skating ability he’ll get more goals and take the PK to the next level that it will need for any playoff success. He should at least be able to improve his acceleration — he has plenty of leg to get himself moving.

All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

by sydtron on May 1, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see a problem with Belanger on the third line. He’s defensively responsible, can win face offs, and isn’t offensively inept. If MP is going to be with the club, I want him on a scoring line, which suits his skill-set best.

I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 7:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fehr should be on a scoring line, but he isn’t. Having said that, I’m not convinced that MP can handle 18ATOI and the 3rd line is really a scoring line that gets 12ATOI, at least on this team.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 1, 2010 7:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think our “third line” should have gotten more ice time. Wait! They did get more ice time when they were technically the “second” line.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Get rid of Semin and Fleischmann and Fehr will get top six time next year.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

MP? unreadiness?

After losing last years series, people voted that Dave Steckel was a vital cog in the Caps plan. After a few call ups, you think MP is poised to man the 2nd or 3rd line? Other than a few good regular season games, the same kind Fleischman looked good in, what did MP do to sell the idea that he’s ready for the NHL playoffs? Especially given the roster of guys that just showed their unreadiness?

unreadiness is not a word.

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Giving MP a chance can’t hurt. And at least he’s cheap. And will probably be Calder Cup seasoned, especially after this year.

MP can teach the big boys how to win. All right, we’re talking about a different level but still…..

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s 5’9". He’s not the answer.

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

He’s about the same size as Gomez, Plekanec and Cammalleri.

They seemed to do OK.

2009-2010 Washington Capitals: Watery, with a smack of ham.

by D'ohboy on May 1, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Against Washington, yeah. So after getting pushed around by them we should design the team to get smaller, slighter, and field guys that spend their time getting away from checks instead of dishing them out? I’m not seeing it. Perrault is not what the Caps need to become more successful in the post season.

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think we should sign up all smaller guys, by any stretch of the imagination but MP has a lot of desire and hustle and he’s talented. Sometimes a small guy is what we need for a “change of pace”. Something different. We can’t have everyone be the same.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Something different? How bout some gritty wingers or centermen? That would be different. MP would be more of the same.

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t imagine how MP is more of the same when comparing him to BMo/Belanger

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Give the guy a chance before you write him off. The Caps are one of the biggest teams in the league and that didn’t translate into heart and hard work.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d prefer a guy who seemed to bring something new to our offense each time in limited action to actually maybe get a 2nd scoring line going. His shifty puck possession I think would have helped Semin out immensely.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

So after getting pushed around by them we should design the team to get smaller, slighter, and field guys that spend their time getting away from checks instead of dishing them out?

Don’t be your avatar. That’s hardly what I’m saying.

2009-2010 Washington Capitals: Watery, with a smack of ham.

by D'ohboy on May 1, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

What were you watching that you saw the Caps getting pushed around by the Canadiens?

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on May 1, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually...

He’s about the same size as Gionta not Gomez, Plekanec, or Cammalleri. That said your point is still valid….

by markbona-capsfan99 on May 1, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You guys are up early as fuck. I just watched like 8 episodes of Entourage On Demand. And fuck we still lost Game 7.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 6:07 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m not up early at all. In fact, I just had dinner.

I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 6:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gold Cup is hours away, and I’m still hammered. I came here to sober up.

4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...

by JSchon on May 1, 2010 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best show evaaaaa

The entire British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going to war without one, you're mistaken.
Ramblin' on.

by Steck It Out on May 1, 2010 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

All of us in Jettas and we’d look like schmucks…. in matching Red Ferraris we’d look cool … and wealthy…. Entourage – love that show…

by markbona-capsfan99 on May 1, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I briefly break my clips avoidance to say, Screw Mick Kern.

Follow me on Twitter!! I even say some relevant stuff sometimes
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by Ovechwin on May 1, 2010 6:22 AM EDT reply actions  

I’d agree if I had any idea who Mick Kern was before today. I may have heard him once or twice, but it certainly wasn’t memorable. And more people read this blog than listen to his show on XM. So there.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s highly likely that number will go up now, should make him happy

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only goal left for the season is to get another gay picture of Ovy and Sasha with a gold medal in their mouths.

by Sjomin on May 1, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Somehow I don’t think the answer for this disappointing season is “more high-stakes international hockey.” They’d be better served sailing the Greek islands or something.

Brooks, on the other hand, is going to have a great time.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

If I see a picture like that (gay or otherwise), I am going to blow my top.

No pun intended.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Last night I emptied out my season ticket holder box. As I threw out the playoff ticket booklet, I still was hoping I was in a bad dream and I’d wake up soon. Guess not.

Sig temporarily on hiatus to ease the pain.

by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 7:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I did the same thing

It was almost surreal. Seeing the stuff in the recycle bin just doesn’t cut it for me.

by dcrock on May 1, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I threw my playoff ticket booklets into the recycle bin as well. I’ve been spending the day trying to unjunk stuff. (I still can never keep up with the papers and my house still looks like the house of a compulsive hoarder in spite of my periodic attempts to unjunk.)

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

my group of friends is coming over tonight and we’re making a bonfire out of our remaining playoff tickets

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to ask “who is Mike Kern, and why should we care about his jackass count?” but I actually like his comments on singing the national anthem, as Wes Johnson would say, loudly, proudly and with respect

And thanks to all at Japer’s Rink. I’ve spent way too much time here in the past few weeks, but I’m glad there’s a place to go in good times and bad with the Caps.

by miseenjeu on May 1, 2010 7:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t want the seat from the Caps Center, but I did check Mr. I’s links. I posted the Capitals Kremlin link on five fatal flubs that cost the Caps as a fanshot. I think point number two: “Arrogance” was spot on.

by miseenjeu on May 1, 2010 7:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Last night’s game hopefully opened many people’s eyes. Pens were 4/4 on the PP. Halak’s SV%: .75 and they chased him. I thought losing to the sorry Habs was bad enough, now the Pens show us how it’s done. They will sweep them. They have us to thank for a free pass to the Eastern Conference Finals. Sickening.

Adding insult to injury…

by rachel216 on May 1, 2010 8:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, that vaunted Montreal PK didn’t look so tough last night did it? Bruce, did you notice the short, crisp side to side passes that moves the defenders out of their lanes and then magically, a shot that actually gets on net (and by Halak)? That’s not so hard is it?

by b.orr4 on May 1, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

In training camp, the Caps need to watch videos of how the Pens did the Power Play last night.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or just watch how they actually moved the puck around during the regular season. We got far too attached to setting up a single pass for a one timer right into a defender’s legs in our series. Green never seemed to be patient enough to hold his shot or change his angle to make sure his shots get through.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed, the PK was too dependent upon the one timer. Need much more flexability.

All the king's horses and all the king's men
Couldn't put Humpty together again

by sydtron on May 1, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know what’s ironic – early part of this season the Pens PP was horrid.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was pretty horrid all season. they finished at 17.2%

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that was held down by their horrid start. An educated guess would be the PP was over 20% for the last half of the season.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

In defense of the Habs, remember they’ve just gone through a grueling series and climbed back up the mountain. Then less than 48 hours later they have to take on a rested, more well-prepared Penguins squad who could exploit what the Habs had shown over the past seven games. It’s no surprise they had a letdown.

by cuqui on May 1, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes but...

even though the Habs outscored the Pens 5 on 5, the Pens never stopped playing more physical hockey then the Habs and when they got their power play chances they made them count.

Additionally though it pains me to say this both Crosby and Malkin played physical, tough games and if they keep it up they will wear the Habs down and start to score more 5 on 5 as the series goes on.

The only thing that will save the Habs is if Halak is pissed and plays the next five games like he did in games 5, 6, and 7 of the Caps-Habs series….

by markbona-capsfan99 on May 1, 2010 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Part of this also that we didn’t want to out gruel them. We wanted to try to outpinch them and outskill them. If we had committed to the forecheck them to death strategy a bit earlier rather than hope that Flash would magically discover his skill, who knows. I can’t spare the Caps the hard choices, BB adjustment, Flash adios, pscyhologist for Greenie, and better leadership for Ovi, and prayers for Semin necessary to improve. Oh and throw some MP in there as well.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nor will it be a surprise when they lose the series 4-0 or 4-1. And also not surprisingly, I will be sick.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

One of the questions I’ve been struggling with over the past few days is, “How am I supposed to care about next regular season?” Apparently I’m not the only one asking.

How right you are. I think many of us out here, myself truly included, have been asking ourselves the same question. I think the instant aftermath clouds our thinking. Of course we’ll get over it. Of course we love watching great hockey played by our home team (and other teams, although watching Pittsburgh carve up Montreal last night . . . OMFG . . . but I digress . . . ). As soon as my daughter, who is going away to college in the fall, asked me when practice started and if we could go before she went away, and then we started looking for the schedule and thinking about next season, and some flickers of excitement began to build again, I knew we’d be alright. Remember, enjoy the journey as much as the (hoped for) destination. Like BB said, now next year is the year. Enjoy the ride, not just the hoped-for destination. If it’s anything like this year, it’ll be a fun one. Just typing makes me want next season to get here soon. LET’S GO CAPS!!!

by kfjje on May 1, 2010 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Join the club on wondering on whether we should care about the regular season.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

There will be one reason to care about the regular season: Semyon Varlamov. We want to see whether he can demonstrate over a full season that he is a number one goalie. As the team experiments with meaningless chemistry, tries to discover its PK, and gives younger parts like Carlznerson and MP more rope to develop into playoff ready cogs of a deep playoff run capable team, Semyon Varlamov will be asked to do more and we’ll see if he can hold up.

If we have goaltending that’s as good as or better than our opponents next year, we’ll be an improved and more optimistic bunch.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I figure next year, we’ll see both Varlamov and Neuvirth playing in goal. Neuvy will be the backup but a backup who gets plenty of work. Holtby will be #1 at Hershey but will get called up if someone is injured.

They’ll be able to evaluate who will be our #1 goalie.

I also assume we’’ll have both Carlson and Alzner on the blue line next year. And MP will be one of our centers. (I realized MP is small and that’s considered to be a liability in the NHL but still…..)

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with you on both goalies. But the goalie situation will certainly be a reason to watch next year.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theo was NOT the problem this year

in either the regular season or the playoffs… I know ’ll get bombarded here but it was Varly who had a SV% under 0.900 in the final two games of the Caps-Habs series…

by markbona-capsfan99 on May 1, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t the answer either, as far as BB was concerned.

Choking since 1985.

by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he only allowed 5 total goals in those games. I know we can’t expect our offense to cover that or anything but if you had said Varly would play 6 games and have a 2.41 GAA (6th best among goalies in the 1st round) you’d figure there was no way we lost this series.

Scorers gotta score.

Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.

by Davethecapsfan on May 1, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You need to read the whole post. He came up with several good reasons we should care about the regular season, all of which I am in agreement.

This season was one hell of a ride with dizzying heights and a hellish low.

I plan on enjoying the journey next season too. I also will be watching for changes to the roster and adjustments by the players and by the coach. I am hoping for a little adversity that prepares them better for the playoffs—that 14 game streak was amazing, but I don’t need to see it again.

I can’t wait until October: the smell of the ice, the red-clad crowds at the Phonebooth screaming “unleash the fury,” the fans crowding the stands at Kettler during practice, and the howl of Ovi when he loses that juicebox game they like to play. LETS GO CAPS!

by capsyoungguns on May 1, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I’d like to think that the old saying “God doesn’t give you what you can’t handle” will apply to our guys.

It’s a better pill for our guys to swallow at the moment. People were already questioning the character and desire of both Ovi and Semin and it’s currently worse for them both, needless to say. If they survive this emotionally, they’ll be stronger in the long run.

When they finally have post-season success, it will be so much sweeter.

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

This season was one hell of a ride with dizzying heights and a hellish low.

I plan on enjoying the journey next season too.

same here. I decided to document the entire season, saving all my tickets, taking a bazillion pictures, collecting newspaper clippings. I’m about 75% of the way through the regular season, putting it into a book, it’s been therapeutic and wonderful and fun and it’s reminded me just how much damn fun this season was. Free Alex signs. 8-2 wins over the Flyers. The Streak. Snovechkin games.

I can’t wait until October: the smell of the ice, the red-clad crowds at the Phonebooth screaming "unleash the fury," the fans crowding the stands at Kettler during practice, and the howl of Ovi when he loses that juicebox game they like to play. LETS GO CAPS!

October can’t come fast enough!

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Birdie I just cashed out my piggybank and will be sending you the spoils via paypal for Saves for Kids. Thank you for all your hard work.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you!

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re welcome, but now I’ve decided to pay by check. In the mail to you tomorrow.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Appreciate your positivity as always Birdie and that will help me stay tuned to Caps doings during the offseason.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Development camp is in mid-July. I’m totally taking off of work and watching the future baby caps skate. a little pathetic that I’m getting myself ready for D camp on May-freaking-First, but c’est la vie, right? gotta have something to look forward too this spring/summer (other than the Nats being total baseball bad asses, of course)

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

There are a lot of quality minor league options around in the area as well. When some of the Hagerstown kids come up, Potomac will be worth watching and Harrisburg’s pitching staff is worth watching when they come into Bowie. Frederick is a nice park when the P-Nats come into town. Wish I could drive more. Remembering that you live near Nats Park so I imagine that heading to Kettler isn’t that much of an inconvenience.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, real easy drive for me to kettler. I’m spoiled with my top-league sporting options.

my mom feels so bad for me right now she dis-invited my brother to tomorrow’s Orioles-Red Sox game so I could go. “You’re not just holed up in the house are you? You’re going out side, interacting with the rest of the world?” Yes, mom.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could be going to an execution. I guess Camden Yards is nice regardless of the results.

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by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

all I know if there is free beer (yay, allowed to drink again!) and free BBQ.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

when, proofread! That should read: all I know is there is free beer and BBQ.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, then that’s a horse of a different color.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll be going to Camden Yards tomorrow as well. So far, it’s been a terrible season for the O’s.

(I know I’m off topic.)

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well then you know where to take these posts in the future…?

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 1, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm impressed

I have the WaPo sports pages documenting the streak (my now sad pile of papers) and the NYT piece and WaPo piece on Ovi, but nothing else. I’m amazed at all that you have.

I’m still incredibly upset—devastated really—but I can still look back at with pleasure at this season, especially the weeks following the advent of Ovi’s captaincy and their success, so pleasurable after the dark days of December.

And tho’ this playoff failure really hurts (I can only imagine how it hurts for the guys themselves), I just can’t get all negative when so much of the core is young and still here. My devastation would be even greater if this was the only year for a serious Cup run. Too many things can happen, pucks bouncing the wrong way, debatable game changing ref calls, special teams going stagnant, players going into slumps. I’m learning more and more how the hockey gods need to be on the side of your team: come fall we will find out what sacrifices were made to appease the hockey gods.

by capsyoungguns on May 1, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The one piece I kept all year was the pre-season preview in the Post. I dug it out this afternoon. I’m sad again. It was right there in print: Is this the year?

Sig temporarily on hiatus to ease the pain.

by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

God that is sad. I think I’m glad I didn’t keep the preview piece.

by capsyoungguns on May 1, 2010 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like my sig says, it is now, “The Wait for Red October”

It's The Wait for Red October. Except rather than Sean Connery, Alex Baldwin, and Sam Neill, it's George McPhee, Bruce Boudreau, and Alex Ovechkin.
Not Tom Clancy, but Gary Bettman. Not the Soviet Kremlin, but. . .well. . . .yeah, the Soviet Kremlin

by kingzman264 on May 1, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, that’s clever! ;)

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by red army line on May 2, 2010 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Join the club of those joining the club. Of course I’ll be paying attention, but busting my ass to watch 75 games or so? No.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

At some point during the series, hearing about the insane number of shots the Habs were blocking, I kept thinking, I guess the reason the Caps were so dominant in the regular season is that teams just didn’t try that hard to stop them scoring. I know the season is way too long for that kind of sacrifice day in/day out but man it just feels lame to think maybe teams could have beat them more if they just tried a little harder.
I know that’s a gross oversimplification but I’m totally grouchy about it anyway. And glad to hear the ‘scalpel not hacksaw logic’ is getting lots of play, b/c I want the Caps to figure out the right tweaks, not change their basic style.

by catymac on May 1, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

J.T. Bourne made a similar argument on his blog back on March 30.

The NHL’s Presidents Trophy has an offensive bias.

Already seven 20-goal players (Green has 17).

Lets face it – if two teams come into a game lethargic, you can play smart defense and work less hard. If your team scores mucker-style playoff goals, you need to have the throttle down to be effective (and you need some bounces). So when you can’t be at that 100%, teams that have dangly skill guys (who are dangerous at half-speed) can still put enough pucks in the net to win.

And over the course of an 82 game season, plenty of games are played by two worn down teams. Which is why, when you have the natural firepower of a Washington, you can score that extra goal or two without the extra effort, and collect your two points. In the past, it hasn’t been that the Presidents Trophy winning team has the best team, they’ve just had the best skill guys.

by cuqui on May 1, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reggie savage

Pretty sure he is one of the few players in NHL history who’s first ever goal was via penalty shot. Think they actually took the stick to the HOF. All downhill from there.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 1, 2010 8:54 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Bäckström made his decision he is not partaking in the the world championship because of his bum shoulder.

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by Malin A on May 1, 2010 9:17 AM EDT reply actions  

Probably a good decision for the sake of his body.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed. And now he can focus on more important things like signing contracts.

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by Malin A on May 1, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

And the Stanley C… oh. Wait.

I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.

by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

TOO SOON

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

At least we can still root for Nashvi… oh. Damnit, not again.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

See, those jokes don’t get to me. I’m perfectly accustomed to not having hockey this time of year. Second round? Whats that?

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit. If Caps fans are going down, someone’s going down with us!

(And if the jokes bothered me, I wouldn’t have made it)

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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

And I hope it will be the Penguins - prior to the Stanley Cup Finals.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

GO BRUINS!

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Go Bruins. Or if the Bruins don’t succeed in their next season, go Flyers.

What could be more heretical around here than saying “Go Flyers”?

In any case, either the Flyers or Bruins will be motivated by revenge.

For the Bruins, it’s time to pay back the Penguins for Matt Cooke’s hit on Savard.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t root for anybody in this series. Carcillo and his bunch of jerks and Phillie are intolerable. I am a DC fan who roots for teams all across the spectrum in the form of ‘Skins, ’Nats, and should the become relevant Wizards. Boston has one of the most entitled and insufferable fan bases in all of the world right now and the BoSox/Belichek/Celtics fans don’t need a whiff of the Stanley Cup either. Western Conference for me.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am rooting for the Western Conference team in the Stanley Cup finals this year as well. At the moment, the horse I’m backing there is the Sharks but will root for who ever comes out on top.

My Penguin hatred is still deep enough for me to root against them throughout the playoffs. And I would seriously love them to get knocked off BEFORE the Stanley Cup Finals.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone but the Pens plus the Western Conference is certainly where we go. Carcillo in the finals would be tough. Boston in the Finals would be insufferable as well. Habs in the finals would be insufferable as well.

Nyjer Morgan anyone?
The man is hilarious, plays a great CF for the Nats (see yesterday’s gamesaving catch), and knows his hockey.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nyjer Morgan is a much more pleasant to think about than the current hockey playoffs. He was my birthday present. He and Knuble, both.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see you’re a Devils fan. If the Bruins (or Flyers) dump the Pens, let’s go to a game in the Garden (or Wachovia Center) and cheer for that team against the Pens.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m a poor University student in Toronto. I wish I could go to Boston

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by Kevin Sellathamby on May 1, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Please come to Boston for the springtime
I’m stayin’ here with some friends and they’ve got lots of room
You can sell your paintings on the sidewalk
By a café where I hope to be workin’ soon
Please come to Boston
She said no, would you come home to me”

Could not resist putting in the lyrics for that particular song by Dave Loggins.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bored in my last acct class of the semester.

I was thinking about the remaining teams – they all have significant flaws. San Jose doesn’t have much by way of forward depth, although if they can get production from their top-six (huge if), I think they’re in good shape.

Detroit is old and aside from Lidstrom and Kronwall, have pretty serious questions about their blueline viability.

Chicago and Philly lack a goalie, but are similar in this respect: they have excellent forward depth (Philly less so now that Carter is done) and dominating top 4 defenders. Chicago is healthier and their 3rd pair is also very serviable even without Jonsson coming back.

Vancouver is highly reliant on the Sedins for consistent scoring (Samuelsson isn’t going to keep this up), as injuries on the blueline (Willy Mitchell jumps out at me) and a huge question mark in Luongo’s ability to handle pressure.

Boston, simply put, has no offense. Rask has been excellent and Chara has stepped up defensively again, but they’re going to struggle to score against any opponent. One defensive mistake and they’re done.

Pittsburgh’s blueline is shaky and Fleury has been far from top form so far.

Montreal is undersized and struggles when their defenders are made to turn. Their bottom pair and bottom six are very vulnerable with offensive talent on the ice.

I think that out of all the teams left, Chicago is the most complete group, but I can’t get past their goalie concerns. Go Sharks?

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sadly, our offense in the last 3 games of the playoffs looked no better than Boston’s had looked all season.

One defensive mistake would kill us.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Devil's Advocate

San Jose can’t win the Cup if their top line doesn’t show up. Pavelski-Clowe-Setoguchi is a good second line, but they absolutely HAVE to get some production out of Thornton-Marleau-Heatley.

Also, after years of watching Nabokov’s inconsistent play, I wouldn’t give their goaltending a pass. Nabby has an unbelievable ability to play poorly at exactly the wrong moment.

Detroit may be old, but as long as they can stay healthy I don’t think that’s too much of a concern. If Rafalski, Stuart, Lilja and Ericsson are serious questions defensively, I’d hate to hear what you think of pretty much every other team’s bluelines.

Chicago has been giving regular defensive shifts to: Hendry, Sopel, Byfuglien and Campbell. After the top-4, that’s a pretty big drop given Campbell’s defensive. . . shortcomings.

That being said, no other team in the league has their forward depth, not even the Caps.

Vancouver depends on their top line for most of their scoring. Same can be said of almost every team remaining. If Burrows, Raymond, Kesler, Bernier and Wellwood can chip in, they’ll have enough depth to score with anyone left. The real question mark, as you alluded to, is “which Luongo will show up?”

Boston may struggle to score, but once they get Savard back, that team gets a lot better. Right now they’ve got a #2C playing #1C minutes, with a #3C playing #2C minutes. Their whole lineup is out of whack. (FWIW, Boston now has 3 top-line centers in Krejci, Savard and Bergeron. But they have no scoring wingers. . . I’m just saying…). Anyhow, Boston’s offense was neither as good as it looked last year, or as bad as it looked this year. If they can find that middle ground, with their team D and goaltending and the general weakness of the east they could do some damage.

I disagree with the “one defensive mistake” comment, first because Julien’s system minimizes such mistakes, and second because Rask has been lights-out all season.

Pittsburgh’s D may be shaky, but their centers are the best in the league, and they know how to keep puck possession and make the other team work for all 200ft of the ice. Like last year, all they need Fleury to do is not completely crap the bed.

If what you said about Montreal is true then. . . WTF just happened??? :)

(Anyhow, some of this is just for the sake of starting a discussion because I’m bored waiting for my buddy to wake his drunk ass up so we can go get brunch.)

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by D'ohboy on May 1, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Staal got hurt last night. Dunno how bad.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Had tendon surgery last night, he’s done for the season, via Bob McKenzie on twitter.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Err, Friedman.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 11:26 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

And with that you can kiss the Penuins chances goodbye. The big advantage they had over every other team was three quality centermen. With Staal gone, Crosby and Malkin will have to play extra minutes and that’s on top of the two extended playoff runs they’ve already gone through.The road to the Finals in the east is becoming a super highway and the Caps are getting towed back to the shop. Damn.

by b.orr4 on May 1, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are now reports that he could be back by next round from McKenzie (For reals, this time), so take whatever you’re hearing as incomplete so far.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awww :(

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

About to go work out, so won't respond for a while

The statistical work on Nabby suggests that he’s been a very average goalie since the lockout and the Sharks are badly overpaying for his services. A meltdown wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, but neither would his playing a relatively solid set of games.

Totally slept on Rafalski, not sure how that slipped my mind. I blame payroll accounting blather. Stuart, Ericsson and Lilja have all looked very bad at points this year, a lot is going to depend on how well Babs can shield them from the other teams’ top lines.

Campbell has actually had very solid defensive numbers this season playing with Hjalmersson. Is he as good as his contract? No. But he’s really settled in and is generating a lot more shots (and goals) than he’s surrendering. We’ll never confuse him for Lidstrom, but I think he gets and unfairly bad rap because of that monstrous contract. On paper, especially if Jonsson can come back strong from his concussion, CHI has an excellent blueline and three pairings without a serious weakness.

Boston, Detroit, Pittsburgh, Chicago, and Philly all get scoring from multiple lines, partially because they have deep center positions (As you cited, Bergeron, Krecji and Savard in BOS, Pavs and Zetts in DET, the gruesome twosome in PIT with Staal’s injury and Richards/Giroux in Philly). Vancouver otherwise has the first line and then very, very inconsistent production after that. They can catch fire, or they can be totally invisible.

Julien’s system also minimizes chances on offense, so making a defensive mistake (even if it’s less likely) is more costly, because they’re less likely to make it up. That’s been Boston’s story all year – trouble scoring meant they won a lot fewer games than they otherwise would have. I’ll concede that Rask has been excellent, though.

Pitt’s D is shaky and vulnerable to attack, especially if you can bait Orpik with puck movement and watch him go for the huge hit. They were || that close to going to a game 7 with an OTT team they should have annihilated and that’s partially because Ottawa’s forwards abused their D. They need more from Fleury than not crapping the bed; Scuderi and Gill aren’t going to bail them out this season.

I think what the hell just happened with MTL is pretty clear and we’ve discussed it at length ;-P

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

oops

Hadn’t seen this yet.

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re underestimating Demitra/Kesler/Samuelsson here. Time will tell, but I’d love to have that 2nd line on my team.

Anyway, I think we see SJS/Pittsburgh. I want Boston out of the East, but I doubt the Bruins can get past the Pens. All depends on Rask…

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Detroit is old and aside from Lidstrom and Kronwall, have pretty serious questions about their blueline viability.

Rafalski? Bueller?

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rafalski is pretty old too and not quite the trustworthy defensive player. If Lidstrom isn’t on the ice, Detroit’s defense is pretty suspect. It’s almost obnoxious how good Lidstrom is still after all these years.

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by sydtron on May 1, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

So can my girlfriend still wear his tri kroner WC jersey?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 1, 2010 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You can never go wrong with a Tre Kronor jersey.

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by Malin A on May 1, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what she said!

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

As a Dane, I would beg to differ.

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by Madelle on May 2, 2010 3:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bäckström made his decision he is not partaking in the the world championship because of his bum shoulder.

A good decision and highlights why these “Ironman streaks” are BS. Hockey is a brutal sport. If you’re a key guy on a team as good as the Caps, and you’re hurt, you should sit for a game or two. Especially following the trade deadline, the team had plenty of depth and plenty of cushion in the standings for Lars to enjoy some nachos and a refreshing beverage while his shölder got a chance to mend. Clearly it got bad exactly when we needed a healthy Nicky the most – and the first line’s production paid the price.

Grrrrr.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

shölder

Awesome. Made me laugh out loud.

by TJA on May 1, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why does it seem like when any of the Caps talk any smack talk, it comes back to bite them? (Examples: this year’s Ovi talking about Halak shaking; Green’s talk) Yes, when other guys, like Plekanc, talk smack about the Caps, he ends up becoming the hero.

If there’s such a thing as Karma, why are our guys always the “malificiary” of any negative karma but the other team’s guys don’t seem to be.

I know. I know, life isn’t fair.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Karma is bullshit. There’s your answer.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plekanc wasn’t trash talk, it was fact.

by David Getz on May 1, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

And halak’s hand was shaking. It’s called skating the talk and the caps didn’t.

Pretty much all the “trash talk” was overblown.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 1, 2010 9:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Actually, varly was better than brodeur…so his statement wasn’t all true..

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on May 1, 2010 9:57 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I meant more that the quote was given as statement of fact, rather than trash talk. It’s one thing to answer a question about the other team’s goaltender, it’s another to say something like “Watch me tonight, that’s all I have to say.”

by David Getz on May 1, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

ISWYDT.

They're coming.

by Bald Pollack on May 1, 2010 2:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I disagree, to a, uh, degree. Theo was outstanding for long stretches and has his own goalie milestone notched into the franchise because of it. He’s the horse they rode in on, and he got pulled for two goals that shouldn’t have signaled the end of his season. He should have been in game 7 just because game 7 is a lottery and he earned it. Maybe if given the proper chance Theo would have gone lights out too. I completely disagree with the decision to never go back to Theo, especially after game 4. He should have gotten the chance to close them out on home ice at game 5. I’ve heard a lot of people rationalizing Varly going into net for the rest of the series and I don’t buy it. Theo was solid down the stretch and was not the reason they lost game 1 or fell behind in game 2. Pull Theo but keep playing Flash?

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Questions without good answers, unfortunately. Or at least answers we don’t really wish to entertain.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely disagree with the decision to never go back to Theo, especially after game 4.

Maybe, MAYBE after Game 5 or 6. But Game 4? Why? We had just won three games in a row and Varly had held us in all three when the Habs put on their obligatory one period of good hockey.

The only person who could reasonably argue that Bruce needed to go back to Theo for Game 5 is Theo himself. Or, alternatively, someone who didn’t watch games 2-4.

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by D'ohboy on May 1, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

after game 4 because they had the series in hand, and 5 was at home, and Theo has been awesome at home, and it could keep his confidence up. What was BB going to do? WIn with Varly and then go back to Theo for the start of the 2nd round? No, because he’s say “varly is playing so great for us,” when he hardly gave Theo a chance to play great for them. Theo got yanked for less than what Varly gave up, 2-1 scores or not. If you aren’t going to play Theo in Mtl because of some chanting, and you aren’t going to play him in game 7, then why not game 5 when you’re up 3-1? The dude got hosed, plain and simple. If it was me, I’d be irate. He deserved better.

by The Jade Donkey on May 1, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Can’t support this. You’ve just won 3 in a row and you’re trying to finish them with the hot hand. I would have liked to see Theo get a second chance as well, and I applaud him for being such a class act. I don’t see how he still wants to come back to this operation, and I don’t think that he will get a chance to come back.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m in the minority but I agree with you here. Reading Theo’s quotes this morning was something. You put it best when you say that he got “hosed”. He certainly deserved better. Theo deserved a second chance after how he played. He was ready for the playoffs and half a bad period cancelled it all out. Varly didn’t get pulled when he looked bad in Game 6 or gave up 2 early goals in Game 5, even after playing poorly down the stretch. Theo played awesome and gets pulled right away and never got a second chance. It was a sad thing to see. I congratulate him on a great season after all he went through and wish him luck wherever he goes.

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah, I too had really hoped Boudreau would play Theo for game 7 but it was not to be. I agree that Varly didn’t really cost us the series, but he didn’t win it for us either. I think Theo had certainly earned the shot to try and turn things around. All the same, I think he had certainly earned himself a better deal than what he got.

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by Madelle on May 2, 2010 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theo didn’t get hosed. Is there a chance h could have played better had he not been pulled? Sure. Varly didn’t win us the series? The only thing that was winning us the series was a shutout in any of Games 5-7. If you’re demanding that of your goalie, you’re demanding too much. 2, 3, and 2 goals allowed in possible clinching games is far good enough goaltending to get the job done.

I never thought Varly looked bad in Game 5 or 6 either despite the early goals allowed. Left out to dry in Game 5 twice and a bad bounce on every goal he allowed in Game 6. Either way, he bounced back in both games to leave us in it long enough to win it had our offense and PP not lost us the series.

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by Davethecapsfan on May 2, 2010 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I thought he looked average at best in game 6 especially. Additionally, Varly was coming into game 7 with two straight losses. You may think he played well in those games. However, they were still losses and coming off that, I think Theo had certainly earned the chance to start game 7.

As for defending Varly’s goals allowed with being left out to dry, flukey bounces and what not, that’s pretty much what happened with Theo when he was pulled. Except Varlamov seems to get the longer leash and subsequent prefential treatment, if you will.

I’m not really hating on Varly here. I have confidence in him as a goaltender, and he didn’t cost us the series.

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by Madelle on May 2, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The difference between what happened to Valry and Theo was Varly hadn’t given up 3 goals on 3 straight shots. People have different opinions on Game 6, I remember him making several huge stops, including a breakaway, to keep the game at 2-0 for a long time and plenty of time for us to have fought back in it, but we didn’t. The same was true in Game 5. He was doing his job…I don’t see how you go switch back to Theo for a Game 7. All credit to him, but Varly was doing a good job. We can talk about how “they were still losses” but when you’re offense is only scoring 1 goal a game, you can’t expect a shutout is the only way you can win. The team didn’t do their job.

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by Davethecapsfan on May 2, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry but everyone would’ve said BB is a crazy moron if he put in Theo in game 5. There’s no way on this earth you put in Theo after Varly single-handily won you game 4.

by rachel216 on May 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really believe that after game 4, BB did not seriously think that there was a chance that they were going to lose the series. That explains the hesitancy to scratch Flash because he felt it would compromise Flash’s motivation or mojo or something heading into the next series and he wanted Flash to get that self-esteem building first goal. That explains the reluctance to give Theo a shot again. He thought Theo would get a chance to start the Flyers series at home and avoid the massive letdown that Halak had in last night’s game. It may even explain the lack of adjustments and practice time. “We can’t lose to these guys and I don’t want to burn out my team for the next series.”

I think that BB’s major takeaway point will be that he needs some additional input on PK strategy, some more presentism in focus to detail, and needs to get tougher quicker on some guys. I think GMGM realizes this and I think there will be better accountability next season.

And I can’t say that I’m but so optimistic that that will be enough.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don't enable the coach, George

If George McPhee doesn’t take the bat out of Bruce’s hand and dish Flash this offseason (a second rounder would be nice, but I’d take the remains of Belanger’s teeth at this point) then Houston, we gotta problem.

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by bigonetimer on May 1, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

If we keep Flash, the man needs to bulk up like he did last off-season, but keep on the weight.
I think he gained like 15 or so pounds while he was waiting to be cleared by doctors for his blood clot.

I think that might be why his production dipped so drastically over the course of the season. With the extra 15 or so, he was just stronger. He couldn’t be pushed off of pucks as easily, he had a harder shot (strength wise, and weight shift wise), and could survive infront of the crease.

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by kingzman264 on May 1, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s cause he just plain sucks.

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by hotdog88gt on May 1, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flash and Fehr both had health challenges coming in. Only Fleischmann got (mentally and/or physically) weaker over time.

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by redlineblue on May 1, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry. Promised myself I’d stop all this crap until October.

…starting….NOW!

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by hotdog88gt on May 1, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you honestly believe that the reason we lost the series was because of Varly? He allowed 3 goals or less in each of the games he played. He ended up with a better SV% and GAA than Brodeur, MAF, Luongo, & Bryzgalov. What makes you think that Theo would have allowed 2 goals or less per game? He yielded two goals in two shots in Game 2 and I forgot what his lifetime SV% is against the Habs but its pretty awful.

Here is some information regarding Theo’s starts againts Montreal.

Theodore’s only start in Montreal as a visiting goaltender came as a member of the Avalanche in October 2006. He yielded eight goals on 44 shots in a 8-5 defeat. Since joining the Capitals, he has started two games against the Canadiens, winning both at home.

In February, Theodore made a relief appearance at Bell Centre when rookie Michal Neuvirth left the game with an injury and allowed four goals on 25 shots in a 6-5 overtime loss that ended the Capitals’ 14-game winning streak.

Theo’s two home wins againts the Habs:

Nov 28, 2008 – 3-0
Feb 18, 2009 – 4-3 (SO)

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by CapsFan2020 on May 1, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think where the justifiable criticism of BB goes is that there is an inconsistency in sticking to his words and sticking behind his players that makes one a little squeamish.

With Theo, we were told he had a long leash. He got a short leash. There was certainly the opportunity to put him back in for game 7 either as a jolt of emotion in the middle of the game or as a starter for the game. Okay, I can live with this. The message is that we go with who is playing the best and who gives us the best chance to win.

But if you’re going to follow this line of reasoning I want consistency. Consistency then would seem to mean giving more players opportunities at PP time as the PP continued to sputter and giving Flash the boot for games 6 and game 7 not just the coin flip game 7. That’s the move that makes it look like BB has a bias toward offensive oriented players who remind him of his younger self and doesn’t always play the grittier guys who don’t.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Quite frankly my biggest concern going forward is BB and his coaching staff. Are they going to be able to make the necessary adjustments needed to be successful in the playoffs? I don’t know. I guess we’ll find out next year. I agree 100% with Engblom’s comments below:

“What’s the saying? ‘The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results,’” Engblom said. “You have to be able to play more than one way to win the Stanley Cup. It doesn’t matter if it’s the first round or the fourth round, someone is going to find an antidote for you if you only know how to play only one way.”
“He’s going to have to learn to adapt, too,” Engblom said of the two-time MVP, who was nominated for the Hart Trophy on Thursday. “From eight feet outside the Montreal blue line to inside the zone, he was constantly trying to beat people on his own. They ate him up. They knew what he was going to do.”
Green, in Engblom’s estimation, put too much pressure on himself after a weak showing in last year’s playoffs and, at times, struggled to find a balance between taking care of his own end and creating offense at the other.

“It was startling to watch, actually,” he said. "He’s a very talented guy. When he wasn’t scoring, he seemed to act negatively to the pressure. "

and finally:

“Montreal’s will to win was stronger.”

To me this is what it comes down to. You have to want it more than the other team and be willing to do whatever it takes to win. In the last three games the Caps didn’t.

I’m also somewhat concerned with Green’s mental state at this point. That’s two awful playoff experiences in a row for him. He is young but also very immature it seems. He was playing great towards the end of the season so we know he has it in him. His issues seem to be mental/lack of confidence more than anything else. How is he going to handle the pressure in the playoffs next year? The guy could really use a mentor or the help of a sports psychologist as others have suggested but instead we are adding two more young defensemen to the lineup and let’s not forget Schultz is also 23. Who’s going to mentor all of these guys, Poti?

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by CapsFan2020 on May 1, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

For now, we have to hope that GMGM can put parameters on BB that will give him a path for improvement as he works on generating a list of internal and external candidates to replace him should the PK show no improvement with some additional voices added to the coaching staff and roster tweaks made next year.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goaltending definitely wasn’t why we lost the series. Varly gave up two goals in game 5 and 7. With the offense we have, 2 goals would’ve meant nothing. Our offense killed is what lost us the series.

by rachel216 on May 1, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

from the semin interview:

After the handshake there were only a few Capitals left on the ice to salute their fans. Why was that?

"I don’t know. Everyone was in such a shock. No player meant any disrespect to our fans. They have been amazing this whole season. It’s bad that it happened."

who stuck around?

by Natty Bumppo on May 1, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Ovi of course who saluted the fans and about eight others. We too were in a state of shock so which other players remained is eluding me at the moment.

by capsyoungguns on May 1, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ovie, Theo, Laich, and Varly were the ones I saw.

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

http://twitter.com/cnichols14/status/13050558649

Re Players on the ice after game. The following players were out there for sure: 8, 16, 19, 21, 24, 27, 40, 60

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Flash didn’t even stay on the ice after the game! What a bum!

Interesting that 2 of the players were only in for 1 game of the playoffs, and less than half of the regular season combined.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on May 1, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

silver lining: finally fehr with more ice time than flash.

by Natty Bumppo on May 1, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   4 recs

This.

Uh...yeah...Let's gets that Calder Cup!!!!

by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm no Flash fan but...

I think y’all are forgetting Flash didn’t play in game 7 – he was in the press box. Walker played and he was one of the eight on the ice saluting the fans….I was surprised when I looked at the list and did not see 10 there.

by markbona-capsfan99 on May 1, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

(You might want ao adjust your snark meter.)

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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on May 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pens Power Play -- sigh

I’m pretty much ready to move on, but isn’t it annoying that the Pens went 4-FOR-4 in their first game. I mean even like 1-for-4 would have been okay…c’mon Montreal, at least try a little.

by MNcapsfan on May 1, 2010 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Pretty interesting:

“It’s not just moving the puck. They move around a lot, and it’s tough to get into their shooting lanes because they’re in constant movement and they don’t hold on to the puck very long.”

—Defenseman Josh Gorges on the problems presented by the Pittsburgh power play.

by rachel216 on May 1, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

If You Leave Me Now

A little classic Peter Cetera might help me get over all of this, J.P. You can do it., c’mon.

by dcrock on May 1, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Wow Ovi really is a mythical beast

That Copper & Blue piece was a fascinating read. I was struck by just how consistently dominant Ovi has been as a power forward, and by how rare of a beast a true power forward is. It reminded me again of how lucky this team is to have Ovi.

by capsyoungguns on May 1, 2010 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorta OT, but Al Iafrate’s son, Max, was selected 15th overall in the OHL draft by the Plymouth Whalers.

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by Steck It Out on May 1, 2010 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

new Facebook page called Move Mike Green to wing

you know what I don’t think its a bad idea!! With his stick skills he could easily be a 40 goal scorer and put up 100 points .Let Carlson,Alzner,Poti and Schultzy handle the D maybe bring back Juice and go after Volchenkov.Bottom line is Green is a liability on D,I don’t care what Bruce says about him being a good Dman and on any other team he would be much better.Bottom line is Green is an extremely talented player but a poor defensman if he is the number one Dman on any of the remaining playoff teams ,they lose,guaranteed.

by RedRocka on May 1, 2010 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Get yoself an avatar, bro.

Also, if you run some simple Behind the Net numbers, you’ll note that Green is in fact not a liability on defense but an asset, though he did have a rough playoffs. There’s no way that Green puts up Backstrom numbers as a winger. Sorry.

poor defensman if he is the number one Dman on any of the remaining playoff teams ,they lose,guaranteed.

Not sure how you can justify or prove this. The Caps’ loss wasn’t on Green specifically. Mike is a fucking Norris Trophy candidate. He’s a number one defenseman.

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

bravo, good sir. Excellent work. and you did it with far fewer “fucks” than I used when I drafted a reply.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn’t have time to really bring the heat, sorry. Could’ve run stats, etc. but not real necessary. We all know the truth. I’d take Green on my team’s blueline before anyone not named Weber or Doughty.

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, Green as a forward makes no sense but I did ask that question myself sometime ago and got some really good responses from a number of people here. Here you go:

Why? Green is effective because he provides an extra offensive threat.

by RPI93 on Nov 4, 2009 8:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
….which makes him extremely valuable for a defenseman, a position not known for its offensive production.

by YvonLabresMoustache on Nov 4, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen nothing from his game to indicate he would score MORE as a forward. Shots from the point and sneaking in the back door for cross ice passes aren’t exactly prototypical forward plays.

He wouldn’t have the natural inclination to step into the high traffic areas forwards need to go to to score, and aside from scoring on the rush he’d be out of his element and would need a lot of time to adjust

Leave the Norris trophy finalist on the blue line.

by Sombrero Guy on Nov 4, 2009 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
word. watch green as he enters the zone and does not have an obvious pass to another forward or open shot. he’ll go around the boards and usually end up losing the puck or forcing a bad pass.

he is great where he is.

by ns on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions

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by CapsFan2020 on May 1, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get me wrong the numbers are great

I understand Green is a Norris finalist and he deserves it too.But you have to consider his plus minus stats are what they are because of who the Caps are the whole team is a plus,but you also need to see the guy has rediculous hands he has a solid wrister and great slap shot he can weave his way end to end better than anybody out there.There are so many Dmen out there that given Mike Green minutes on this team all season long would also put up great numbers.But as far as being a good defender I just dont agree with it he is in my opinion below average as a defender,I would even say he is Bergeronesque as a defender his worth comes in his offence.The guy would produce Seminlike numbers or almost Seminlike nnumbers on wing and he would for sure put up comperable to better numbers than wingers making similar $ ,he would also then be considered a great defender as a wing maybe even be Selke worthy at some point.My point is numbers don’t tell the story he as far as Greenie being a solid defender.And I hope he wins the Norris,but we all know its his offence that would be the factor in him winning that award.

by RedRocka on May 1, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

word. watch green as he enters the zone and does not have an obvious pass to another forward or open shot. he’ll go around the boards and usually end up losing the puck or forcing a bad pass.

he is great where he is.

by ns on Nov 4, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions

Losing the puck and forcing bad passes would be minimized by it not being his responsability to get back into defensive position.Which would give him the freedom to hold onto the puck longer and make better plays with it.

by RedRocka on May 1, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Losing the puck and forcing bad passes would be minimized by it not being his responsability to get back into defensive position.Which would give him the freedom to hold onto the puck longer and make better plays with it.

Firstly, forwards still have to backcheck.

Secondly, when Green rushes the puck deep into the zone, it’s a forward’s responsibility to cycle back to cover his point until he can get back.

Thirdly, it’s not the breaking into the offensive zone that makes Green so valuable to this team at D, it’s breaking out of the defensive zone and getting the rush going.

Fourthly, he does better with more space. Forwards need to work in tighter spaces with more traffic. Green’s better at toe-dragging around a forechecker and continuing up the ice than cutting to the slot and getting his stick on a rebound.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand Green is a Norris finalist and he deserves it too
But as far as being a good defender I just dont agree with it he is in my opinion below average as a defender,I would even say he is Bergeronesque as a defender

Holy huge contradiction, Batman! You cannot be a Norris finalist without being an elite defensive player. Reconcile the above statements for us, if you will.

My point is numbers don’t tell the story he as far as Greenie being a solid defender.

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Stubborn little dude this Redrocka fella. Comes in here off the street without avatar and brings us a hardened opinion impervious to statistical debate.

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by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll agree with the fact that he’s a defenseman.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Green deserves a Norris consideration because of his point production

and his +/-. And as every critic of him on the award states he isn’t a great defender. Of course he is an elite defensive player as you state,he led all defensman in points and goals.You bring up statistical debate? The guy has great stats ,and the Caps also finished with the highest goal differential in the leagueand you talk about forwards needing to get back to backcheck.Of course they do but they don’t have to get back to there position as a defender and to allow said offensive player who is covering for him to do what he does.My point is clear I feel Green is a sub par defender as does everyone who is not a Washington Capitals fan,Steve Yzerman included.Maybe sub par is harsh maybe he is just average. I may concede that ,but with his skill set he can be a pheonominal offensive player with well above average defensive abilities.The bottom line also is for two seasons now that the Caps have been in the playoffs he has been god awful on the defensive side and virtually non existant with his offence.This team has a very bright future on the Blue Line with Carlson and Alzner it sure couldn’t hurt to see what Green can do with those skills on offence.It will be a new year you have camp,and pre-season,I think its well worth the shot.

by RedRocka on May 1, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s an adequate to above average defender who is not ever going to earn his money without generating offense. Norris nominations can go sit over there with President’s Trophies, as far as I’m concerned, but yes, I agree that he did earn the nomination for that regular season award.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Problem is that he is often not an adequate defender.My question is do you think he could top 80 points per as an offensive player?If you answer no then I respect your opinion,but think your nuts!All I’m saying is that I think it would be wise,very wise to try seeing what he can do as an offensive player.I really do believe he can add points and be a very good defensive player as a winger.I think that Carlson,Alzner,Jurcina,Schultz are all better defenders.All of them make their presence felt in front of our net and in my opinion Greenie is the worst defender on this team as far as being able to protect the front of the net and clear out opposing players he is also very,very bad at picking up players rushing in from behind him when he focused on whats going on behind the goal line or behind the net.I love the points I love the offensive production and I love him on the PP but as far as not allowing the other team to score goals,not so much.

by RedRocka on May 1, 2010 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green has value as a defenseman, probably more so then being Semin 2.0 on the wing. But he has to be better in the playoffs, and I don’t think playing wing accomplishes that.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Green was on the ice for fewer Goals Against per 60 minutes of ES last year than any Caps D-Man except Jurcina, and on the ice for fewer GA/60 of PK time of any D-Man. This year he slipped to 3rd in both, albeit playing against tougher competition. And he won’t be 25 until Opening Night. Something tells me he’ll be fine.

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by Bald Pollack on May 1, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

Defense is not all about being physical. If Green is pinned in his own zone let’s say I’m not exactly laying back and popping a Coke. But most of the time (it seems) Green gets to the puck first and clears. Problem solved. His great speed and skating allow for that like few others.

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by red army line on May 2, 2010 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

While I may agree that Green didn’t cost the Caps the series, I think his play certainly cost them game 7. It’s strange, because I’ve never really felt this frustrated with a player before but the stupid penalties he took, his constant give-aways and the bone-headed defensive play on Montreal’s second goal really did not do him or us any favours.

With that said, I am not a part of the choir singing the song of his defensive liablities. It’s not that he sucks on defense per se. It’s that he sucked overall come the playoffs this year as well as last year.

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by Madelle on May 2, 2010 3:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rekindling the fire

I just went into Modells and bought a new Unleash The Fury shirt. Have a great summer, team. In spirit of the work I know our boys will put in, mentally and physically, I’m continuing on my weight loss plan I started in January. I want to be a fit fan for such an athletic sport.

I’ve lost 14 lbs since January, inspired by the team. I’ve got around 30 to go. They lost this year, but they will not give up, and neither will I. Go Caps!

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by WordsOnIce on May 1, 2010 1:51 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Sorry for the double post. iPhone tiny keys are tiny.

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by WordsOnIce on May 1, 2010 1:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

no worries, we’ve all accidentally double posted at some point. and good luck with your 30!

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should be taken care of.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Boswell had a couple more details about Poti’s injury in his column today. “Terrifying” doesn’t even begin to cover it. (apologies if this is linked in clips)

Doctors saw he escaped being blinded by “a couple of millimeters.” Poti spent the next 30 hours with no vision in his right eye and only started seeing shadows as he was going into surgery.



Doctors say he should begin to regain the feeling in the left side of his face again in about two months.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Scary, scary, scary stuff. Best of luck to him with his recovery.

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The least toughest hockey player is ten times tougher than the toughest MLB player and 100 times tougher than the toughest NBA player. (does that make any sense?)

by b.orr4 on May 1, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

which explains how he was able to drag himself out of bed and to the VC for game 7 the following day. Because if I had just undergone major facial surgery and was still blind in one eye, I’d be at home, in bed, probably wanting to die.

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

i couldnt imagine not being able to feel my face for any period of time let alone two months

by twistedlogic on May 2, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jay Buehner was a pretty tough dude, but he’s definitely the exception, not the rule.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poti’s injury sounds way worse than Laich’s injury from last month. Poti says they think he’ll soon regain 100% of his vision. (Gee, not seeing at 100%. That’s bad stuff here.)

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Controversy a Brewing

Bruins-Flyers just finished the third tied and heading to OT. That means that if this game goes past 4:00. NBC is going to have to decide whether to stay with the NHL playoff game or go to the lucrative two hour pre-race buildup to the Kentucky Derby. I so hope this goes into double OT.

by b.orr4 on May 1, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow!!!

This would just do wonders for the NHL as they try to negotiate new contracts going forward. Just as I’m sure Fox was thrilled by that 20 inning baseball masterpiece. Basketball and football do have predictable terminations going for them in the eyes of the suits.

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by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope an asteroid wipes out the Garden. Why do they get the pleasure of watching their team play hockey, and I don’t?! (yes, I’m feeling a little bipolar. trying to stay positive, but everyone else getting to enjoy their teams in the 2nd round just pisses me off)

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, negative much? Haha I completely hear you though. It flat out sucks.

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey, I was positive about July’s development camp up-thread! :)

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by RedBirdie on May 1, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just kidding. And yes I saw that! Sadly, I will not be around come July. So I’ll have to wait and be positive about training camp (years away).

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by caps123 on May 1, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raise your hand if you thought Boucher was going to provide not merely adequate, but excellent goaltending for the Flyers.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

(My hands are so far down I’m touching my toes.)

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm but your position cannot register but so much in the crowd if you are knee high to a duck it it comes to hand raisin’.

just sayin’

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by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s no actual meaning in my handle, it was just what popped into my head when I decided to register.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just turned on the TV. From your comment, I thought it was like a 1-1 game or something but it’s 4-4 in OT. Boucher has already yielded 4 goals to the Bruins. Where the goals not his fault, on the powerplay…? and the B’s win…

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by CapsFan2020 on May 1, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

You should have seen the beginning of OT – the Bruins had like 8 shots in the first two minutes and that entire time, they were in the Flyers’ zone. No chance they’re even still in the game after that stretch – he made some amazing stops.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

He got a ton of help from Paille shooting the puck back into his chest after he completely slid out of position. He did look good in OT though (didn’t see the rest of the game), but I wasn’t exactly impressed with his first round. The numbers are gaudy, but the Devils’ O suuuuuuucks.

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by Killer_Carlson on May 1, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what?

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Boucher was going to be the reason they got knocked out, not the reason they got held in.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ll see how Boucher does in Round 2 before calling him excellent.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAVARD! WELCOME BACK TO HOCKEY!

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 3:41 PM EDT reply actions  

That was an incredible moment. I’m B’s all the way in the East.

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by Chris Burton on May 1, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Savard wins for the B's in his first game back

Wow!!! B’s may be a bit more respectable now.

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by souldrummer on May 1, 2010 3:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure they will. And I would love to see Savard and his gang get revenge against the Pens in Round 3. Go Bruins! (But, if the Flyers won, I’d be coming up with some reasons for them to avenge the Pens as well.)

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, someone deleted my response!

Go Bruins!

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I hid the double post before your response came up on my screen. All responses after that are hidden too – here was the text:

Just logged in here and not watching. That’s really nice for Savard. I had checked the box score and he hadn’t gotten any points yet. Right now, I am a Bruins fan.

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by Knee high to a duck on May 1, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t blame you for being a Bruins fan right now. Payback time is at hand.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s all OK. I couldn’t figure out where it had gone at first.

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yesterday there was talk about the World Championships being on TV. I finally looked it up, and basically it’s only the US games, and then the medal round. Also, I just took a look at the US roster. I guess 95% of our Olympians are still in the playoffs (or hurt, or other things), because I don’t see this group going very far.

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Ice warrior reports that the Backis-free Team Sweden looks awful. They lost to Russia 4-2 today in some tournament in Stockholm. Nylander made the team.

Canada is fielding Stamkos and Tavares and of course, Mr. Tire. They play Italy first in the round robins.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are all the reports of Nicky’s bum shoulder correct? Doesn’t sound good for Sweden.

Why am I not very psyched for Worlds this year? Between the Olympics and the playoff disappointments. It’s similar to swimming where you tank up in Junior Olympics and/or Senior Champs and then are forced to do your off events at Spring Champs (i.e. the Championship Meet for those swimmers who missed the cut times for the major meets.)

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nicky is definitely out of the Worlds, probably because of his shoulder and possibly because his agent is still negotiating with the Caps over The Contract. The Swedish hockey press is just a little bit bent about this. It’s also Bengt-Ake Gustafsson’s swan song as national team head coach.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bent in more ways than one. Bent out of shape. And no more Bengt after this year.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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      FHR.ru: Bryzgalov will miss the WC due to an injury. Time for Varlamov to shine?

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it would be beneficial. I’d also like to think this is his last WC opportunity for a while.

Then again I thought that last year.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree the experience will be good for Varly, and will further his development as a goaltender. I’m skeptical that the cure for what’s ailing Ovi and Sasha is “more hockey”, but since they agreed, I wish them all good luck.

On the other hand, the prescription for Brooks Laich is always “more hockey”, and I predict he has the most fun of anyone on his summer vacation.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

@mirtle
  
Hockey Canada announces Cumiskey, Del Zotto, Myers, Duchene, Laich, Ryan Smyth and Chad Johnson as part of world championship team

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess Ovi and Semin figure that the best way to overcome disappointment is to keep busy.

Guys, I hope God has saved some sweet vindication for you. I’m sure that last statement is coming off wrong but, what I mean to say is, I hope there’s something really sweet in their future.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they feel at all vindicated by performing great in the WC, I’m extremely troubled by that.

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt if they’ll feel vindicated by winning at Worlds. It’s essentially a consolation tournament, as far as they’re concerned.

I hope the “something sweet in their future” refers to a Stanley Cup.

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by CapsFan75 on May 1, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ovechkin, yes. Varly, hopefully. S. Semin? Ehhh….

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am in full agreement with all of this.

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course, Mr. Tire

I feel like there’s a real chain called Mr. Tire somewhere.

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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by macvechkin on May 1, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Looked it up. Real close to me.

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by gfcaps fan on May 1, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, Universal Sports has mostly USA games on its schedule and a Russia game on May 9. Sometimes they change their lineup without notice, plus they replay a lot so if you missed a game the first time, then you can catch it the second, third, or seventeenth broadcast.

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by oldemystix on May 1, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just turned on hockey for the first time since Wednesday night. I waited two days before visiting any hockey site, including this one. Now I’m watching the VAN/CHI game and you know what?

This fucking blows.

This is the first year in decades that I just don’t care if I see another hockey game until October. I have no horse in the race this year, not a one. Boston, Philadelphia, and Montreal in the East? WTF!

This just fucking blows.

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by hotdog88gt on May 1, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

NBC and Versus nod in agreement.

by EmilyB on May 1, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Update from Montreal

Less habs jerseys today, only a few people laughed at my Caps tshirt. One guy at the mall said he like my shirt, but with such a big accent that I couldn’t tell if he was being sarcastic or not. TV in my hotel room broken, so I can’t watch the VAN/PITT game. I found out I like sugar pie. Also I’ll propobly die of a heart attack.

by ThatCostsMoney on May 1, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Someone will be along eventually to give us a new thread, but until then, happy 31st birthday, Jason Chimera!

by EmilyB on May 2, 2010 9:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Sigh!

How do you really know when the season is over? When the comments dwindle to a few hundred instead of hovering around a thousand or more.

How do you know when the stages of grief have begun? When one can barely muster up energy to read even the results of the previous night’s game much less actually watch them.

How do you really know that this was truly an epic upset versus a disappointing long-shot attempt? When the thought of the Awards Ceremony sounds awful and one can’t muster up enthusiasm for our nominees winning (tho’ I have more interest in Ovi’s Hart; still holding onto a little angry frustration with Green).

I agree with hotdog88gt:

This just fucking blows!

by capsyoungguns on May 2, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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