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"For the amount of superstars they have, they do a decent job, system-wise. Obviously, they spend a lot of time in the offensive zone, but, at the same time, defensively, they do a decent job, and sometimes people don't give them credit for that."

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interesting, I wonder what Orpik has to say?

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by iced on Apr 6, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i think it was along the lines of, “waaaawaaaaawaaa, we shoulda won, waaaaaa”

by hockeypunk on Apr 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gonch firmly playing the “let’ not piss ’em off” card.

"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP

by fat_daddyo on Apr 6, 2010 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

“or if we do, lets do it after we have lost”

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by iced on Apr 6, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the “maybe they’ll take me next year after we lose to the caps” card

by Brainumbc on Apr 6, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

My sentiments as well.

I like the Washington Capitals.

by bigeugene on Apr 6, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just look at how the Caps have played against the Pens the last couple of seasons as compared to how they have done against the Jackets the past couple of seasons. That explains the difference in opinion.

by freakinandpeakin on Apr 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Orpik is kind of a little bitch, in terms of his vitriol for the Caps I mean. "Semin’s a baby, I have zero respect for him!!!!!’ after he lost the last game for the Pens by taking a penalty in OT.

by S h a g g y on Apr 6, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Nevermind that he said that immediately after the game, while still fired up and later retracted most of it.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Players should never, ever be held responsible for what they say in the moment!

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resident master jinxer

by iced on Apr 6, 2010 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

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~S. Avery

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by IRockTheRed on Apr 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Avery did this thing in the morning and actually called over more media members to hear him out. As usual, he knew exactly what he was doing.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was not a heat of the moment thing. I’m still most upset that they didn’t just let him play and instruct the refs not to call an instigator on Phaneuf no matter what.

A pretty girl is like a violent crime.

by Rob Parker on Apr 6, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

When did he retract it and do you have a link or specific terms used?

A pretty girl is like a violent crime.

by Rob Parker on Apr 6, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could dig it up, I know I read it somewhere but I’m a little too busy (read: lazy) to do it now.

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"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s cool. I just haven’t seen it and I’m curious to see what exactly he said. I’ll just assume you made it up because Brooks Orpik is evil and overrated and shouldn’t be on USA 2014.

A pretty girl is like a violent crime.

by Rob Parker on Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He also said enough to the ref to get him a game misconduct….All this after he started a fight during a goal celebration for his own team. Clearly a classy individual.

Suspend Colin Campbell!

by snowburnt on Apr 6, 2010 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus, he’s (Orpik) the same guy who considers Ovi dirty and reckless. The pot who’s calling the kettle black.

A hypocrite!

Rocking the Red since 1975

by CapsFan75 on Apr 6, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sixteen Caps’ wins in the playoffs is pretty much the only thing that will stop these questions from being asked of our opponents.

On the other hand the “Alex the Great vs. Sid the Kid” questions will never cease.

But Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes.

by hotdog88gt on Apr 6, 2010 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

When I first read this, my thought was Gonch was sucking up a bit to be signed in the off season. NOT.

Winning is everything. The only ones who remember you when you come second are your wife and your dog.

by Racin23 on Apr 6, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I got a chuckle that Gonchar, never given much recognition for the development of his own defensive game, is the one who gives the Caps a little credit it for their defensive game.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Perhaps one who longs for greater defensive ability can best appreciate in others, while those who have it have contempt for all other defenders as being far weaker than their greatness.

erskine has scored...now i can die in peace

by souldrummer on Apr 6, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

That’s deep bro.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not exactly what people here were saying after Umberger’s comments…

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Apr 6, 2010 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ironically...

During Gonchar’s first few seasons in his DC he was a defensive defensemen – and a pretty good one at that. It wasn’t until Ron Wilson came in and told him to “open it up” that he started using his god-given offensive talents.

Grimm's in. Jacoby's next?

by Kareem E. on Apr 6, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s, uh, not how I recall events.

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by J.P. on Apr 6, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

If anything I recall it being the other way around.

by Stephen Pepper on Apr 6, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe “defensive defenseman” isn’t the right term to describe Gonchar’s early years – mistake acknowledged. But he wasn’t an offensive defenseman at that point either. From his rookie season in ‘95 through ’98 he WAS responsible enough in the defensive zone and unwilling to take chances — even with Joe Reekie as a partner – as frequently as he did from 98-99 and on . (Up until 98-99 he wasn’t even the point man on the Caps PP – CalleJo and Phil Housley were.) After that he evolved into an offensive defenseman only, mirroring Kevin Hatcher’s evolution. And in both cases their respective defensive skills quickly whithered away.

I recall a WP article from the late 90s where Wilson asked Gonchar to start skating with the puck more aggressivley. Gonchar responded that his job was to play defense first and let the forwards score goals. I guess Wilson’s message sunk in for the 98-99 season.

Grimm's in. Jacoby's next?

by Kareem E. on Apr 6, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much my thoughts exactly…I laughed when I read it because after watching Gonchar for years, I could see him looking at the Caps’ D and thinking, “hey, they’re not bad!”

Not that our D sucks as much as people think – he’s right, in my opinion. But it’s still funny ;)

by Becca H on Apr 6, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

also: playing for the Caps lessens one’s chances of being knee-on-knee’d while Ovie is boarding you and leaving his feet, that dirty SOB!

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by RedBirdie on Apr 6, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, to be fair, shouldn’t you be listening to the most offensively skilled players to tell you which opponents have the best defense, and the most defensively skilled players to tell you which opponents have the best offense?

In other words, if Alex Ovechkin were to say “Buffalo plays phenomenal defense”, Sabres fans wouldn’t be like “pfft, what does he know about defense?”—they’d take it as a compliment from someone who would know best.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 6, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Gonchar went on to add, “I think they are a great team, and would be happy to play there for 5.5 mil a season next year.”

by SA-Town on Apr 6, 2010 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

You heard it wrong. He said, "I think they are a great team, and would be happy to play there for 5.5 mil a season for the next four years."

Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.

by EmilyB on Apr 6, 2010 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

McPhee replied with “Thanks, but no thanks. Best not to give old relationships another go.”

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by RedBirdie on Apr 6, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Bourque and Milan Jurcina disagree.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

they’re less-expensive dates :)

Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
Donate to the Rink Pledge Drive for SAVES FOR KIDS! Ain’t nothing [crappy] about giving $5 so a stranger’s premature baby can have the time on a respirator they need.~Gould Old Days

by RedBirdie on Apr 6, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah, true dat.

Pensburgh.com

"Don't matter who did what to who at this point. Fact is, we went to war and there ain't no turnin' back. I mean, s---, it's what war is, you know? Once you in it, you in it. If it's a lie, then we fight on that lie. But we gotta fight."

by Hooks Orpik on Apr 6, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kris Beech too

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by Sombrero Guy on Apr 6, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plaintiff Exhibit #1 — Nylander

Rock the Red! Rock the White! Rock the Blue! Rock the Pens!

by RedskinFan4Life on Apr 6, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much every thing I’ve thought but just don’t have the hockey know how or patience to articulate. Well said, and I completely agree.

Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.

by SeattleCapsFan on Apr 6, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Hershey running the same system as the Caps is one of the big things that’s helped the development of the younger guys coming up through Hershey. When you get called up on an emergency call or for a shot to make the big team, knowing how the system works is a huge benefit for the player and for the big team since they don’t have to retrain the player for a new system.

by Elliotte on Apr 6, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scroll down to Ed Frankovic’s interview with Johnny Carlson here:

http://wnst.net/wordpress/edfrankovic/2010/03/25/theodore-leads-caps-over-pens-in-shootout/

Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.

by EmilyB on Apr 6, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I definitely agree and lots of teams are doing it now. I know Buffalo was one of the first teams to do it and it’s caught on in a big way.

A pretty girl is like a violent crime.

by Rob Parker on Apr 6, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lowell games must be deadly dull, then.

Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.

by EmilyB on Apr 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

What aspect of BB’s system isn’t working, exactly? I think it’s working remarkably well, personally – took a dead-last team when he took over and pretty much instantly made them a juggernaut. Sure, the PK sucks, and there’s always room for improvement, but if he can fix the PK it seems like it’s all very good to excellent to me. I’d like to think the PK can be fixed somehow. It’s really the only major flaw that this team has.

by grapejoos on Apr 6, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Vogel had a pretty good response to Umberger’s quote in yesterday’s pre-cap. If I remember correctly, it was that forcing the Caps to play in their own zone was precisely how the Pens beat the Caps last year and after the Blue Jackets game, BB called out the Caps forwards for not committing to defense, so Umberger has a point. We’ve seen the Caps when they’re fully engaged, however, and they’re more aggressive in every zone. I have to run, but I’m sure someone else heard it too.

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by HolyJumpin on Apr 6, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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