Sunday Caps Clips: Regrouping for Game Six
by J.P. on Apr 25, 2010 9:12 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Notes, quotes and assorted whatnot from yesterday's day off (short version: Gabby has cooled off a bit, the power play still stinks, and there might be lineup changes for Game Six). [CSN Washington (Masisak), WaPo (CI, CI), NHL.com (Rosen), DCEx, Habs Inside/Out, AP]
- Scheduling note: no Japers' Rink Radio this week due to, well, real life events.
- Game Five's goals broken down. [EOTP]
- Eric Belanger is tougher than you are. [D.C. Sports Bog, CI, DCEx, Habs Inside/Out]
- Thoughts on possible Game Six lineup moves. [A Capital Offense]
- On the odds of the Caps winning the series. [RMNB, Puck Prob]
- Bruce Boudreau wasn't thrilled with the late too many men penalty in Game Five, was he? [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Alexander Semin's disappearing act is garnering more attention by the day (well, outside of D.C., at least). [Damien Cox]
- Is Alex Ovechkin avoiding the Russian media? [RMNB]
- "Having a lousy playoffs is nothing new for Capital defenceman Mike Green. He had lousy playoffs in junior also." Oof. [Toronto Sun]
- Checking in with our favorite barfly. [Peerless]
- Ten things Four Habs Fans hate about the Caps. [Four Habs Fans]
- No Habs No! [PPP, PPP]
- Four struggling Caps need to, um, stop struggling. [Peerless]
- Plenty of discussion regarding Mike Green and the Norris Trophy Finalists, with the most ridiculous entry first. [DelCo Times, Puck Daddy, FanHouse, PHT, NBC Washington]
- Speaking of Norris Voting, Craig Custance had Green first (but whiffed on his Hart ballot). [Sporting News]
- Lots o' pretty on the cover of Northern Virginia Magazine. [Northern Virginia Magazine]
- Face-time for some of the better-known Verizon Center faithful. [Washingtonian]
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Just want to say that JP’s tweet is dead on, and exactly what I was thinking last night.
Dear Caps – Feel free to continue to mirror the Pens’ first round series.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Well, there is that. Stake ’em early is my thought.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
And I’d rather my heart not have to deal with OT. 5-2 would be fine, thanks.
by bilspacecadet on Apr 25, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
If anything, the Caps series is a lot like the Sharks’ series. Okay, the games were not won and lost in the same order but here are some similarities:
1) OT games
2) Sharks had more shots on goals in the games, including the losses.
3) Sharks had trouble solving the Avs goal tender, Anderson, like we had trouble solving Halak.
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I don’t think the Caps have had trouble solving Halak at all.
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12 GA in less than 4 games.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And put up 3 in about half the game in Game 3. He was pretty stout in Game 1, but our lack of goal scoring Friday night was more on us I felt than on his play.
Everything ends badly...otherwise it wouldn't end.
by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Games 1 and 5 had more with the Caps not playing well against the Habs then not being able to solve Halak.
And your original point was solving Halak— not how well the Caps played against him.
This may seem nit-picky but I just think it’s silly to use anything as an excuse since the real issue is the Capitals not playing anything close to their best hockey when they lost.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I got confused with the Toronto Sun link about Mike Green. That was the only sentence about him in the article. In fairness to Mike Green, I looked up his playoff stats with the Bears. The year they won the Calder Cup he had 3 Goals and 15 Assists (18 Points) in 21 Games. Not too bad I’d say.
For fun, I calculated how many goals and assists he would have had at that rate over the amount games he played in the regular season. The result? 8/40/48. His regular season numbers: 9/34/43. No drop off or “lousy playoffs” there. He did a little bit better points wise the next year in the playoffs too.
And in reference to the Four Habs Fan article I have two things to say:
1. Haters gonna hate
2. About the point of no one coming to Caps games in the past – thanks for your baseball team Montreal!
I just wasted three minutes of my life that I’ll never get back on the Four Habs Fans thing. Sorry, JP, that wasn’t worth linking to.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
by gfcaps fan on Apr 25, 2010 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
We aim for comprehensiveness in Clips, not necessarily a list of must-reads.
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by J.P. on Apr 25, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Understood. Just giving my critic’s review of the item. Also, some negative stuff can still be worth reading. The DelCo writer’s rant is highly entertaining, albeit incredibly delusional.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
the delco writer has an SBN profile and voted “yes” to BSH’s “was chris pronger robbed of a chance at the norris trophy” poll.
BSH writer geoff detweiler is also a fan of sanFilippo because “He doesn’t slam anybody, he doesn’t praise anybody, he just tells it.”
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 25, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I thought the BSH guys were basically universally against the PHI beat writers.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
except when Philly beat writers are going pro-Pronger.
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I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
eh, SBN’s search function is unparalleled.
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 25, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
So…there are 9 things about the Caps past that the Habs fans don’t like. Oh, and Ovi’s a big meany. Got it.
"Right now, I can't wait for the playoffs." -- Mike Green 1/18/2010
We (as a fanbase) used to cherish Dale Hunter. We can’t get our feelings hurt because Ovechkin’s a big meanie.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Of course, that Habs site had stuff to say about Hunter as well, calling him Dale “Head” Hunter.
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In 1993 I was still living in Chicago and a big Blackhawk fan. (My loyalties have since migrated.) How exactly did the local fan base deal with the Hunter-Turgeon thing? I mean, I remember really hating Hunter at the time and thinking he should be thrown out of hockey.
I saw that. I read all 10, and then the comments. Dale Hunter was a dirty hitter, a jerk, and probably a terrible roommate who stole Calle Johansson’s pants all of the time.
He also fought extremely hard for every inch, every puck possession, every pass, every shot, every goal, and for each and every one of his teammates, all because he wanted to win more than anyone else on the ice. You can guess which side of him I choose to support.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
3K1K4EVER!
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
3k penalty minutes
1k points
A rare combo indeed.
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A unique combo, actually. It’s going to be a hell of a long time before we see someone do that again (If we ever see it again).
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m a long-time Caps fan (evidence would be my Guy Charron autographed photo), and a huge fan of Dale Hunter. I’m old enough to remember the Hunter hit on Turgeon very clearly. I just watched again on You Tube. Honestly, it was so far beyond acceptable and not even close to anything OV has ever done. Turgeon skates in alone, scores and slows down as he goes towards the boards, arms in the air. Then Hunter comes up from the blind side and throws in a cheap shot.
I don’t think we need to defend Hunter on this. I don’t think we can.
It would be interesting to jump in the way back machine and see what the Caps fans were saying at that time in Hunter’s defense, if we were saying anything at all. I know I wasn’t. There doesn’t seem to be any gray area at all.
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I don’t think we need to defend Hunter on this. I don’t think we can.
Of course. It was a terrible play. But there isn’t a single team in the league that doesn’t have something like that in their history. Including Montreal. When people want to talk about dirty Caps I point them in Dale’s direction, and I’ll always have a fierce loyalty to the man. He was dirty, sure, but he was also all guts and did everything he could for the Caps. He’s not alone in being dirty for his team, he just happened to be one of the best.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
More recycled bandwagon bs. yawn. They can say what they want about the 98 team but I know it was 5 years after the last time the jabs were in the cup finals.
If only the caps had a monopoly on all the great young hockey players for most of their existence we’d have a bunch of cups too.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2010 10:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It might be recycled, but unfortunately at the moment it’s got some truth to it.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually for the most part, I had a chuckle about it. I’m sure outside looking in, most fans could find a way to agree with it. The comments section was mostly a joke, but I didn’t really think it was too out of line.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
There might be a lot of truth to the article, but you have to admit it’s really worth a laugh. Any of us on this board could write something like that. Here are a few things they didn’t include:
1. Rod Langway’s chest hair poking up from under his jersey. What’s with that. Get an undershirt, will you?
2. They can’t even get the President to walk 8 blocks or so to see them.
3. Teeth. Starting with OV and now to Belanger. God dammit, get those bridges and dentures in and look like normal people.
4. Colors. Last time I checked, the Habs were the bleu, blanc et rouge. Who said the Caps could have those colors?
5. Yvon Labre’s retired jersey. Who the fuck was he? The retired #7 for a guy who didn’t play past age 31, had career points total of 101, and was a -94 for his career?
In case you are wondering – this is all snark. All snark. No worries. Just wanted to agree with Mage — enjoy the chuckle of the article (thanks JP).
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That was good. Yea, that’s my problem with the article. It wasn’t funny. Hate all you want, but at least make it amusing.
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Four Habs Fans lost me by using this as a tag for some of their posts. Ugh.
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Wow. That’s just awful, isn’t it? I’m not even sure what to write.
I can’t help be consider that to be anti-semitism or just a really, really, innocently bad translation from French to English.
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Could be a lot of things. Mostly stupid ignorance, in all likelihood. I’m going to do the stereotypical thing here and say it’s just because they’re French, and that’s how the French are.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
hey, they’re French Canadian. Even the French aren’t particularly fond of them.
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4 Habs Fans are actually Anglophone and some of them are Jewish (there’s a large Jewish community in Montreal). They’re very self-deprecating.
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Four Habs Fans lost me by using this as a tag for some of their posts.
What’s the big deal?
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 25, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I think all four of the Four Habs Fans are Jewish. At least two are that I know. I think it’s more of a ‘I wish he was Jewish thing’
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Yeah, DelCo was quite ridiculous. Dripping in irony. He hasn’t seen much of Green besides highlights and one bad playoff series, it seems like. And then he leaves off the 4th highest scoring player (points wise) in the NHL from his all-star team, doesn’t even give a vote to Green for Norris or for all-star team, and so on.
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I think the guys byline says it all.. Delaware county daily times. Not exactly the Washington post. Wonder if the Canucks would care if someone from the fairfax times ripped sedin’s hart trophy nomination.
Stamkos over backs? Talk about a guy focusing on one stat…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2010 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And then there’s “not focusing just on offense” being his idea for leaving Green off the Norris ballot. Like Stamkos > Backstrom in any zone.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
2008 ECQF. Point per game and rock solid.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
Capitals Coming: for Capitals fans who can bear reading something less intelligent than a story at Japers' Rink
by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
After the Washington Capitals blew a chance to eliminate the ready-for-golf Montreal Canadiens Friday night, Boudreau was asked how he felt about Semin’s game.
"Did he have a goal or an assist?" asked Boudreau. Told that Semin didn’t, Boudreau said in withering tones, "Well?"
The subtext is that if Semin isn’t scoring, he isn’t doing much else to help you.
Uh-oh, someone sent Damien Cox one of those misprinted media guides that give Semin’s number as 14.
Curious—when my man Flash is sent packing, who’ll be the new whipping boy here on the Rink? Sasha? Poti? Just wondering….
by bilspacecadet on Apr 25, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Probably whoever fails most relative to his expectations or skill set.
What's ya major, dude?
by HBK on Apr 25, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This. Ask us again (hopefully) at the start of next season. I’ll tell you who my whipping boy is then. There are still 2 that have contracts, and they are in the press box most nights as they should be (well, actually one shouldn’t even have an NHL contract).
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 25, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
At least Flash deserves his whipping boy status, and for the most part so did Nylander (until people started doing personality attacks, when he was nothing more than fucking cordial). Sometimes we jump on people when we shouldn’t, I feel (Kolzig?).
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Kolzig didn’t deserve it. Nylander didn’t deserve it personally. Some people will be jerks. But all the people I whip legitimately deserve it.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
I don’t really remember anyone doing personality attacks on Nylander.
With Kolzig, he just needed to sit that last year. I felt bad for him, but that’s life.
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To be a whipping boy, I’m pretty sure you have to be unfairly maligned. Fleischmann’s not. At least not in this context.
by David Getz on Apr 25, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At times, yeah, he was. But this playoffs, no.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
For all of us who were thinking Flash was going to have an encounter with the press box tomorrow night, based on Corey’s tweet, it looks like he might be back at second line center. What in the world is Bruce thinking?
Lines: Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble, Laich-Fleischmann-Semin-Laing, Chimera-Belanger/B-Mo-Fehr, Bradley-Steckel/Gordon-Bradley.
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BTW, it’s Walker in for the second Bradley sighting.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Who knows. Maybe there’s a possibility Belanger can’t go with all the dental work. Or Bruce is just obfuscating everything.
The latter is likely true, but it’s not like any of the others he’s skating with are going to center that line, no disrespect to Brooksie.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Or maybe Belanger may not be ready to go Monday. That is some significant dental work that’s taking place.
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He has 48 hours to recover, at least. He’ll be in unless BB thinks he isn’t playing well (which I doubt).
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
The other potential problem is energy level, since I read he’s having trouble eating much…
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He’s probably thinking “dayum we don’t have a second line center worth a shiiiiiit.”
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
What would that even accomplish?
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
If we can’t find a center for Semin, maybe he should be the center to center his line.
(Okay, I was kidding on that previous remark in the inability to find a good center for the second line.)
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I don’t think Semin’s play would translate well to center. At all.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Way to be tactful. Semin can’t play center. Period. He’s doesn’t have the two-way mentality that is needed from a center – best example on our team are Nickey, Gordo and Steckel.
If BB doesn’t want BMo or Belanger on that line, then he would have to go with Laich, right?
Certainly, no one had a line of Semin-Laich-Laing in their pool, but it may be better than having 14 on the ice.
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Until the morning’s twitter, I had assumed that either B Mo or Belanger would center the 2nd line.
Laich/Flash/Sasha are good players but none of them are good centers. While Laich and Flash are listed as centers, both are more suited to be wingers.
Somehow, I can’t imagine Laing playing on the 2nd line for the Caps. Period.
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Laing, Scotty W, and Belly can form the “toothless Wonder” line….
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was kidding about moving Semin to center, anyhow. He’s generally an excellent winger. While he has good playmaking skills, he’s not really a center.
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He does have a 100% FO% so far this postseason though.
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
NIce picture of Nicky B and Mike G. on the cover of the Northern Virginian magazine. (One of the Caps’ best bromances.)
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Did they have their arms around each other again? What was with that anyway. I can see Nicky doing it since he is European and therefore weird, but Greenie’s arm on Nicky’s waste was just . . . unexpected.
It ruins the reference if you explain it to everyone.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Apr 25, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Shultz/Green....time to go "on a break?"
From Peerless:
Mr. Plus 50 and Mr. Plus 39 each have been on the ice for eight goals against of the 16 total scored by Montreal.
And speaking of Schultz, he has six career playoff games and is a minus player in four of them.
I know GreenLife’s playoff struggles are nothing new, but let’s not have him drag down our double nickel.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Leave them together but start/continue decreasing their ice time. They’re kind of a disaster out there at times.
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The Caps did win the one game this year when both Green and Schultz were out. Needless to say, it was very high scoring - for both teams. No real defense for the Caps. But Florida was basically a disaster area this past season.
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It’s not necessarily Green’s fault. I can point to two goals that I put almost entirely on Schultz.
"Don't mind WM...he's an all-around jerk."
This is still Schultz’s first real playoff series. He’s learning a lot more right now than anyone else is. Yet another way his previous two injuries have hurt the Caps in the playoffs.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
That’s a good point.
Regarding your signature, you know what Dave Steckel’s wife’s name is? Dionra Reynolds.
What's ya major, dude?
That can’t be true.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
The source isn’t the most reliable but I’m pretty sure I’ve seen it mentioned other places too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Steckel#Personal
What's ya major, dude?
it’s correct
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I’m lost in the relevance. Can you please explain?
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The quote is from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Sweet Dee (Diodra Reynolds) is telling her twin brother Dennis about her dream. He interrupts her with “I hate listening to people’s dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I’m not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don’t care.”
What's ya major, dude?
Montreal is also a terrible matchup for Schultz, a bunch of small, shifty guys who can get around him in space.
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by Knee high to a duck on Apr 25, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
"Having a lousy playoffs is nothing new for Capital defenceman Mike Green. He had lousy playoffs in junior also." Oof.
The three teams on which he played that made the playoffs in juniors finished their regular seasons:
19-43-5-5
27-37-5-3
40-27-5-0
Seems there were more problems than “Mike Green” in two of these years.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
The latter two lost in the first round. The first one (2000-2001) actually did not make the playoffs, and Green played in only 14 games with that team.
If you've read this far...seek help.
And playing on those awful teams let Green fall much farther than he would have on a good team. Take the good with the bad.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Bbb but…Mark Fistric has a higher RATING!
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no justice… Marian Hossa and Matt Cooke were two of the night’s three stars.
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by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I’m sure its been discussed endlessly, but the fact that Hossa wasn’t tossed yesterday is completely inexcusable.
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As noted by caps pr guy paul rovnack, wasn’t it quenvillw who said of ov on campbell, if your star player takes out my guy for the season then you guy should be out the same.
Maybe it was the hawks owner. Would love to ask him about that if Zeus misses a game or two.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2010 2:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ve just got ZERO respect for Chicago lately. First that whole “Soupy’s gonna be out until the end of the second round, at the earliest!” and now the way they’re twisting themselves into pretzels trying to convince themselves that Hossa didn’t do anything wrong, nothing at all.
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Is this “Chicago” as in the organization or its fan base?
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
a little of both, to be honest. Chicago the organization is the one who put out that statement about Campbell, when they must have known that it was a less-serious hairline fracture that would require less time of the ice. I’m not impressed by the organizations lack of comment on the Hossa hit.
But the fans? oh my. Oh my.
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Collar bones don’t really take a long time to heal. I snapped mine in half and was only out for just over 4 weeks. Of course, now it’s lumpier than it used to be.
I’ve heard from a handful of people that once you’re done growing it’s not all that important of a bone anyway.
What's ya major, dude?
myself and some others who have either had broken collarbones or know people who have were all in the “that’s a bone you don’t want to screw around with” school of thought. Way too easy for the fracture to dislodge.
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I know I’m not a doctor so my opinion isn’t worth much.
My uncle is who I’m mainly referencing. He has broken each collar bone enough times that they’re not connected anymore. There are just nubs of bone and it’s kind of gross. Doctors told him that it would be considered cosmetic surgery to get them repaired because they’re not necessary anymore.
But again, I don’t really know, and it’s possible my uncle was exaggerating.
What's ya major, dude?
I’m hoping some others will pop in and give their opinions. My experience as a gymnastics coach was that doctors are hesitant to release kids back to activity because one fall could cause a re-fracture if it’s not fully healed.
on another note, OUCH! multiple fractures to both collar bones?
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Maybe it’s more important when you’re young and growing, and I suppose it’s probably easier to re-break in gymnastics than in non-contact hockey.
He races motorcycles, and for a very long time, he wasn’t very good at it. I probably never saw him without at least a soft cast until I was 15. At one event, he crashed in his first race. He raced in his next 3 and went to the hospital afterward. He had broken four ribs and his wrist in the first crash.
What's ya major, dude?
ouch ouch ouch!
Campbell plays full contact hockey, though :)
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I’ve seen teammates and opponents break collar bones and I don’t think any of them got back before 6 weeks and it was normally closer to 8. But they are all amateur kids in leagues with liability concerns. Not professional athletes. You know I’m skeptical that he could be back but I’m sure his timeline is faster than what I’ve been used to.
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5 weeks still seems really fast. And given that the Blackhawks themselves released a statement saying it would be 7-8 weeks, I’m thinking there was some gamemanship going on.
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You know, I’m a lifelong Hawks fan and I have to agree w/ this, to be honest.
Hossa should have at least been tossed from that game. Since he wasn’t he should have gotten a game.
It’s the whole inconsistent Wheel of Justice BS that gets me. If Ovie got tossed for the almost identical hit, Hossa should’ve been. This different strokes for different folks is crap.
I get this is playoff “rules” being applied here, but I don’t have to like it.
And I do agree that there was gamesmanship on Campbell’s injury.
I like the Washington Capitals.
you’ve pretty much summed up my feelings. The NHL desperately needs to have some consistency on this stuff.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, dropped by on your discussion about it! Even left a comment for you.
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I saw; just defended you a bit ;)
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
much appreciated. Like their coach, too many, ’Hawks fans like hysteria and the twisting of reality. (Ok, I should know better than the paint all ’Hawks fans with the brush, but something about them and the organization just rubs me wrong. really wrong)
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#Caps F Eric Belanger said former #Wild teammate Marc-Andre Bergeron called him to apologize for knocking 7 teeth out with his stick Friday.
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by EmilyB on Apr 25, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Might be tough to take out Belanger for dinner though as an “I’m sorry” present…
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
The team would pay for dental work. Anyway I suspect he will get root canals and crowns since at least some of the teeth shattered rather than were knocked out all the way. Also, I don’t think they can give hockey players implants, since real damage can be done if one of those buggers gets dislodged in the bone. They have to wait until they are done playing.
Excellent snark. Thanks. I’m still chuckling.
by capsyoungguns on Apr 25, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole “exposed roots trimmed in between periods” thing still makes me cringe.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I’m screaming in pain just thinking about that. OUCH.
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Me, too. (Recalling his whole “fall” makes me do that, too.) I was truly worried about Belanger and assumed he was out for the rest of the game.
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oh yeah, saw it. but still screaming every time I come across a mention of it. I’m such a baby when it comes to teeth.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 25, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy shit. That’s what they did? I’m in awe. I’ve had one root exposed and it was one of the most painful things ever. I could not imagine having it “trimmed” between periods and I’m assuming with no real medication.
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Belanger isn’t just good at hockey…he’s one tough fucker
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did you see the video interview of him after practice yesterday?
He was clearly in pain. His eyes were bugging out. He was licking inside his mouth. I almost couldn’t bear to watch.
Then, when asked about returning to the game Friday and playing Monday night, he says calmly, “It’s the playoffs.”
Wow.
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He didn’t seem to be in too much pain today, he was talking a bit and seemed fine.
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Pain killers after the fours hours at the dentist yesterday?
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I’m excited to see if he actually gets any PP time. It could be worse, we could be giving up shorties, but it’ll only help, I think.
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I’d love to be winning all the O zone draws to start up the zone time. His skating can’t hurt retrieving pucks either.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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He was definitely not a “passenger”. I hope some of the other guys take note of that kind of determination.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
People do realize that the Pens won the Cup last year? With almost the exact same lineup they’ve had all this year. How can anyone legitimately say the Pens aren’t a playoff team without Crosby? Especially in the East. What a fucking joke.
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the same people who refuse to say the Caps aren’t a playoff team without Ovie.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 25, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the Caps and Pens are both playoff teams without their Captains but neither is a favorite. I don’t think it’s a legitimate argument for the Hart.
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ya never know, both those players are so good its almost impossible to tell based on the few games played without them.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 25, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Both are so good but you don’t win Cups or President trophies without a lot of help. PIT is a playoff team without Crosby, I’m sure of it.
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I would agree with this. However, I think they need him to be hot to advance to subsequent rounds. The Caps absolutely need Ovie for this as well (and that’s more apparent this year than before), but I think the Caps the slight edge on additional weapons. I honestly haven’t seen enough Pens games with Crosby out of the lineup, and it doesn’t happen all that often to begin with, but when Ovie’s out the Caps seem to play with an extra level of fire in their gut, which seems to balance out his absence adequately in such stretches.
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I doubt that. Take away all AO’s goals, what, still #1 offense? Much stronger case there.
Pens I don’t doubt make the playoffs without Crosby. Remember 2008? Malkin has underperformed this season.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually they are without two of their top dmen from last seasons playoffs, scudderi and Gil. They are without satAn too.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2010 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
IIRC Scuderi and Gill were whipping boys until they shut down AO (to the tune of 8 goals and 6 assists) and played pretty well thereafter. They added Goligoski, kinda, and Leopold and McKee—not much of a downgrade on the whole. Improved Orpik and Letang, slightly regressed Gonchar, and so on.
They put Satan in the minors I believe for the playoffs.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
shhhhhhhhhhhh, saying that the pens are a playoff team without Crosby completely ruins their argument that Crosby deserves the Hart.
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Honestly claiming anyone’s team would still make the playoffs without them shouldn’t ruin their argument for the Hart…Ovechkin or Crosby. There’s a big difference between making the playoffs as 1st round fodder and being a legitimate Cup contender. People can roll out all the stats they want about who the rest of the team is etc…but the intangibles of having those superstars on the ice for those teams and even when they’re not on the ice completely changes the game plan opposing teams will throw at them.
The problem comes in measuring how much extra value the superstar adds when they do have such good teams around them as well. It’s much easier to look at a goalie carrying a team or get mystified by a played like Sedin suddenly winning the Art Ross even though his team finished in the exact same position as last year.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ugh, the “ten things i hate about the caps” blog is depressing, can we please win the stanley cup this year?
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 25, 2010 2:26 PM EDT reply actions
Not a link from above...
But there’s a great story from the SB Nation sidebar, about Max Afinogenov skating at a pickup game in AL (yes, that would be Alabama). Evidently, he was just looking for some hockey to play before the Russian Team starts practicing. Here’s a snipit:
“Of the 29 goals, Maxim scored 17, including the last three after it was tied, 13-13,” Cheeseman said. “And he didn’t come off the ice in either the second or third periods. He told us he was looking for conditioning. And besides, who was going to tell him to come off?”
Here’s the SB Nation link: http://www.birdwatchersanonymous.com/2010/4/24/1442100/maxim-afinogenov-drops-in-for-some
And the originial story link:
http://blog.al.com/ray-melick/2010/04/melick_fed_cup_lures_mad_max_t.html
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oopies. Should have scanned both the OT and this before posting.
The Brooks Laich/Karl Alzner piece last year was great – they’re doing a new one for this year?
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Oh well, it’s caps related.
Yea the same lady who did the last ones interviewed me for this one. RedBirdie said it was Sloan and Carlson this year.
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I’m not certain it’s Carlson. That’s the name popping into my head, but it may be wrong.
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 25, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions
One of the reasons the Flyers beat Washington in the 2008 playoffs and Pittsburgh did the same to the Caps last season was because they forced Green to make quick decisions in his own end, many of which were bad choices.
That’s true for PIT, but not PHI. Green was a beast that series and the Flyers said their number one priority was shutting him down. On a team with AO, Green was the number one priority. Pull your head out of your ass.
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by Rob Parker on Apr 25, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
And this idiot rips on Green’s D and then votes for Ehrhoff!
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You’re never going to get a totally unbiased look at a D man’s regular season. Truthfully if someone asked me right now who I would pick as my 1st D man to be the future of my team, I’d say Doughty.
Then again…if you told me I was picking for one series only, the SCF, I’d take Lidstrom.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Not only you. I’d take Doughty over Green in the long run too, at this point. Doughty has shown me as much and is 3-4 years younger.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
It’d be a much closer heat if I was just looking at the regular season…but Green’s playoffs the last 2 years are glaring. Hopefully he finds his game
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Interesting item Corey linked to in a tweet. Don’t let the title get you.
http://www.kuklaskorner.com/index.php/psh/comments/norris_trophy_candidate_has_slow_playoffs/
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
where is all the media attention on how Keith blows and isn’t performing up to standards?! if Green had that stat line, he’s never hear the end of it
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Green will always be that whipping boy because he was left off Team Canada
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My apologies
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Green’s been under the microscope long before he got left off Team Canada, though.
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True, but it’s only been increased after that and especially since the reason was so famously that he needs to improve in his own end
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps – but I think what Dave and I wrote does have traction.
Stevie Y all but said that 52 doesn’t play defense. So he must not.
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right, it’s been kicked up several notches this season, all because of Stevie Y.
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Green isn’t awful in his own zone, but he’s not Bourque. I don’t blame Steve Yzerman for leaving him off the roster – I would have too.
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Considering the amount of talent they had on that team, you don’t lose anything on the whole having a little less offense from your D at the expense of maybe having some risky play that could cost you a game.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
They won the gold. I don’t think too many people can question him.
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Exactly…regardless if he had made it easier for them or played well is completely irrelevant. To quote Vin Diesel it doesn’t matter if you win by and inch or a mile…they have the gold and so his choices were the right ones, period.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
And at the same time they left of a Richard winner and the highest scoring D and had some players who were invisible. I don’t think they were so good that you could say they couldn’t have been improved.
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Agree 100%. But from a media prospective they have the gold so nothing else matters.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and they helpfully ignore that Canada was one shot away from being complete failures and Luongo becoming resident whipping boy and Stevie Y being crucified in the media over snubbing Green and Stamkos among others.
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by red army line on Apr 25, 2010 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The exact same result you see with Crosby. He disappears for basically all of the knockout round but gets a great pass from Iginla and just fires it on net. It goes in, he’s the Golden Boy. Because of this, no one remembers the semi breakaway he flubbed late in the game that would have made it 3-1 and most likely out of reach for the US to even force OT.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
this grudge-holding American most certainly remembers his non-performances in the Olympics.
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Actually — I don’t much disagree with that, as it was clearly down to a handful for the final spot, and Green may not be as good.
I do think, however, that, had Stevie Y. just said “Green is a great D., but I just felt like others give us a better chance to win,” and didn’t say anything about 52’s D coverage – then the spotlight would be less.
(sorry for the run-on sentence)
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but just because Yzerman says “He’s not the right fit for us” (which I disagreed with, but that’s another thread) doesn’t mean “Green is the suckiest defenseman EVER!” Because that’s what it has boiled down to, and it’s being taken a gospel by far too many people who actually have a vote.
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Have we just accidentally created the “Mike Green Defense Fund,” or can I assume it already exists somewhere around here?
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towards Ovechwin? never :) I love her, and she’s a bit more devoted than I am. Heck, she makes homemade shirts!
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I saw that. Anyone who takes the time to write “Team Tyler” on her shirt deserves the Queen role.
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It’s the Queen OF what that should be in question…haha
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Amazing that Yzerman’s vote overrules 130 writers, because they can’t think for themselves.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I really hope Green doesn’t read or listen to the crap. Bruce may protect him a little too much, but so much of the naysaying is just mean.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
unfortunately, that’s Green’s problem: he’s obsessive about knowing what everyone is saying about him and let’s it get into his head. Which may explain why Bruce is so protective of him.
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it’s been hinted a few time that Green is overly concerned about what others are saying about him, by both TEB and Corey.
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by CapitalCentre on Apr 25, 2010 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Even with all the criticism…we have seen what he IS capable of. Just go out and be Mike Green.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
there’s a reason Philly’s sports media isn’t exactly well-regarded by the rest of the country. Just keep telling yourself that.
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And Peerless let’s him have it. Well done.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
TEB has an update on today’s practice, and Bellanger, who had thousand of dollars worth of dental work done last summer. Short version: Good news, Belly can eat, so he should be able to play. Bruce defends Greenie, as always. They’re working on the PP, again.
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If I don’t see steckel and/or walker in game 6 I’m going to be pissed. I thought this was the reason we got 24 in the first place!
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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Apr 25, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
More Practice Notes
Made the trek this morning, so to add a couple random notes:
- Juice was on the ice for well more than 10 minutes before practice, mostly just skating around with no quick stops or abrupt movements that I saw.
- Sloan definitely sprayed Varly worse than Ovi did that kid…
- Ovi lost whatever that juice-boy game is and was not happy about it, slamming his stick against the glass repeatedly, pretty funny
- After practice Laich was practicing deflections into the net
Practice Pic
I didn’t really take any pics, but here’s Belanger working out that busted mouth:
That’s one tough SOB to play through that
Wtf
If I got one teeth out I would not train next day.
Eric Fehr has been the forward coming on the ice both times the Caps got a too many men call. Sounds like he’s going to get benched.
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You know what’s going to happen right? Walker will finally get a jersey…and will play for Eric Fehr who BB probably thinks was the worst “passenger” the other night. Then Flash will move over to center when Belanger can’t go in game six. My hair will turn gray by next week.
by Kolzilla on Apr 25, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
BB probably wouldn’t bench both 16 and 14, would he?
He has 24 to come in at one wing, and 53 at the other?
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Benching people to play Laing would be one thing for a Game 2 in a series if he was just livid over the effort level in the first game…this late in a series I can’t imagine a scenario where Laing sees the ice.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Neither was his fault IMO.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 25, 2010 7:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m gonna start calling Varlamov Varlamakoff (/Varlamachoff) ‘cause Hockey God Don Cherry kept saying it on HNIC’s coach’s corner
I don’t see a new OT Hockey thread for today yet. Anyone watching Coyotes/Red Wings? Bryz has been keeping PHX in the game, because almost all I see is Detroit in front of the net.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
He just gave one up though, maybe now that the shield has been pierced the dam will open. Someone make an OT hockey thread
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 25, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear lots of angry screaming from the other room
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hahaha. heading to the discussion
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Local NBC isn’t showing it here in the STL. They have Cards-Giants coming up.
Link to the thread?
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Yeah, it’s worse.
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"This play is distinguishable from recent incidents by a number of factors."
The main one being it’s the Playoffs.
And injury and history.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Maybe, but definitely not in a playoff series.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Why, pray tell, does the postseason have bearing on it? Honest question, not being an ass.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
One playoff game is much more important than a regular season game. You can suspend in the regular season just to set the line and send messages, but to take a guy out of a playoff game you better be damn sure they deserve it. Generally I only want to see playoff suspensions for malicious hits but given how this season has played out and the circumstances of the AO suspension I have a hard time seeing Hossa get zero. The NHL’s disciplinary system is a mess and basically no matter what happened here would look bad. If the on ice refs had at least gotten it right and booted him it would be a lot more palatable.
I hate listening to people's dreams. It is like flipping through a stack of photographs. If I'm not in any of them and nobody is having sex, I just don't care.
Exactly. At this point I’m entirely more pissed that after researching, Hossa wasn’t ejected.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He was injured, dammit. (at CC, not you)
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I fully agree. The failure of the wheel to dish out a suspension here is horrible.
John Carlson: Slays Canadians and Canadiens.
I’m shocked he only got a 5 minute major. And not any game misconduct of any sort. Doesn’t getting a 5 minute major merit a game misconduct, assuming it’s not your typical fight.
Every time Ovi and Shaone Morrisonn would get 5 minute majors, they always got a game misconduct along with it.
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I’m under the impression that, yes, that 5 minute plus Hammy’s injury should have resulted in the gamer. The refs completely blew that one.
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According to rule 42.5, if Hamhuis is injured and Hossa is assessed a gamer, he MUST be tossed. FAIL.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Why wasn’t he tossed, I’d like to know. I have no ax to grind in the Preds/Hawks game but I do wonder that.
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please, someone enlighten me as to how it is “distinguishable from recent incidents by a number of factors” besides the fact that when Campbell spun the Wheel O’ Justice in March, it landed on “Suspend him.” Oh, right, they didn’t even bother to spin the wheel this time…
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Past History and outcome and timing
Hossa doesn’t have the same rap sheet and Hamhuis wasn’t injured seriously and it’s the playoffs.
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I’d rather not get into this with you again, largely because it will en up derailing the entire thread, but I’ve long been an advocate of not basing the punishment on the extent of injury, the time of the year it happens, any of that. I little consistency is all I want, and Campbell can’t even manage that.
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by RedBirdie on Apr 25, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Regardless of what you think of the suspension, its clear Hossa should’ve been ejected.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ejecting him would be consistent with past precedent on similar such incidents. At least judging from what I’ve seen at Caps games. (Or is my sample of data points a warped sample?)
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Its not consistency, its the fucking rule.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 25, 2010 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck that, dude!
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Fan Post About the Hossa Non-Suspension
I felt inspired on a Sunday afternoon/evening and wrote my first FanPost. I’d love to get everyone’s comments.
In short, I wrote that, if we are looking for equity compared to Ovechkin, I think Hossa’s non-suspension is valid.
Watching more games on Slingbox than anyone else!
Avatar change for me. Time to change the lineup in order to change the Caps’ luck.
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Music for the Caps
Here’s some music to inspire good play for the Caps:
“Sasha Fierce” — by Lady Gaga
“That’s the Way I Like It” — by KC and the Sunshine Band
“Jumping Jack Flash” — by the Rolling Stones
The above are to inspire great performance for the expected second line.
Other songs:
Anything by the group “Green Day” for Mike Green
Anything by the group “The Doors” or by the singer Van Morrison for Brendan and Shaone.
Anything by Abba for Nick B.
A long version of the Techno song that plays for nearly all of our power plays.
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And anything by Nightwish for Sami Lepisto…oh wait, shit.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 25, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
He has one more goal that Green…
LEPISTO FOR GREEN!!!
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Apr 25, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Anything by Abba for Nick B.
So of all the notable music to come out of Sweden in the past fifty years, it has to be ABBA? And, it has to be Swedish because Nicklas Backstrom is Swedish? Would we say “anything by The Beach Boys for John Carlson”? After all, they were from the United States, and he is too!
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
What do you have against the Beach Boys?
And what do you suggest to get Nicky pumped up?
What's ya major, dude?
I don’t have anything against The Beach Boys (what makes you think I do?). And I don’t have any specific suggestion for Backstrom other than whatever it is that he likes.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 26, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Any song by Led Zeppelin for the power play. Because considering all the talent that’s there, it should be better than it is.
I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 26, 2010 5:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's Go Caps!!!!!!!!!
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