Recap: Canadiens 2, Caps 1
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The Capitals are going back to Montreal, and the team doesn't seem to have any problem identifying why exactly they'll be heading north of border for one more game (aside: for a great rundown of the reaction in the locker room, take a look at Puckhead's Thoughts' excellent post-game Twitter feed). Bruce Boudreau, in typically blunt fashion, said after the game that his team had "played like crap", while veterans Brendan Morrison and Mike Knuble also commented on the team's poor start. What no one seemed to know was exactly why the Capitals found themselves on their heels as soon as the puck dropped - and that's the bigger issue here.
Obviously the Canadiens were going to come out strong, fighting, literally, for their playoff lives, and arguably with an intensity and desperation the Capitals simply wouldn't be able to match. I can accept that. What I can't accept is that Washington - a team that has battled back from playoff deficits in each of the last two years, a team with a coach who has been in the game for decades and won championships in the minor leagues, a team with a strong veteran presence - looked like they were surprised and, consequently, unprepared for the Canadiens' effort and game plan.
We've said it before, and we'll probably end up saying it again: the Capitals are an incredibly talented hockey team, but if they want to win in the postseason, they're going to need to stop relying solely on their talent, and start using both their brains and their guts.
Ten additional thoughts on tonight's game:
- I'm no expert lip reader, but I'm pretty sure Bruce Boudreau's exclamation after the Capitals were called for their too many men on the ice penalty was "Stupid Fehr!" I've been one of Fehr's biggest defenders in the past and I've been critical of how Boudreau's employed him at times, but Gabby was on the money with this one. If you're coming on the ice for the goalie you simply don't jump on the ice until he's at the bench. Period.
- No matter what, the Capitals are going to get their powerplay going sooner or later. There's simply too much talent there for them not to. The problem is that "sooner or later" isn't good enough for the NHL playoffs. The easiest way to get the unit going again? Simplify things, focusing on getting the puck to the point, getting the shots on net, and getting traffic down low to create a goal off a deflection, screen, or rebound. If I were Boudreau, I'd start my first powerplay in game six with some combination of Brooks Laich, Mike Knuble, and Eric Fehr on the wings - and Tomas Fleischmann and Alexander Semin on the bench.
- With the exception of Marc-Andre Bergeron (who played more minutes on the powerplay than at even strength), no Canadien had an average shift length of more than 49 seconds. Six Capitals had longer average shift lengths, and another four had average shift lengths of 46 seconds or more. That kind of stuff adds up, not just in a game, but in a series.
- We knew coming in to tonight's game that Alexander Semin was struggling to find his game and to do anything in terms of production, but what's worse is that he is now clearly pressing, flinging Hail Mary shots at the net, and not so much expecting to create a scoring chance for himself or a teammate as hoping the puck would somehow find its way to the back of the net.
- ...of course, if you were playing with Tomas Fleischmann, you probably wouldn't have any faith in getting the puck to the other winger doing any good either. Flash, who hasn't scored his postseason, has played in 21 NHL playoff games and has three goals, two assists, and a minus-three rating. That's bad for any top six winger, but it's a disaster given that because Fleischmann doesn't forecheck well, doesn't win faceoffs, isn't a good defensive player, isn't a good penalty killer, and isn't a physical presence, his value is entirely tied to his offensive production. Given his last two postseasons we feared Fleischmann was going to disappear in the playoffs and he has. Is there any reason to expect him to start contributing at this point? If not, is there any reason to give him a sweater over David Steckel or Scott Walker, whose respective faceoff prowess and grit will at least contribute something positive to the team even if they're kept off the scoresheet?
- On that note, here's a point so shocking it gets a bullet of its own: Fleischmann has less ice time (7:26) and fewer shifts (12) than any other Capitals player. And that's 7:26 and 12 shifts more than he should skate in game six.
- Jeff Schultz has received some attention for the fact that his added bulk has helped him become a more physical player along the boards and in front of the net, but one area that isn't talked about much is how it has improved his shot. Sarge's wristers used to look like shanked passes. They're getting to the net a lot quicker these days.
- Missed calls are a fact of life in the hockey world, and they're unavoidable; referees are, after all, only human. But deciding not to call a penalty because another one had been called, say, by ignoring a stick infraction had been whistled because the team incurring the penalty was also called for a too many men on the ice call, is inexplicable, unacceptable, and downright embarrassing. There's really not any other way to put it.
- Boudreau did a pretty effective job of sheltering Tyler Sloan in the Caps' game four win, especially considering the game was on the road, and Sloan responded well, playing a generally solid game. That same can't be said of tonight's match-up, in which Sloan's confusion played a major role in the Canadiens' second goal. Of course, the play might never happen if Joe Corvo doesn't exhibit some embarrassingly weak board play only seconds earlier.
- Coming in to tonight's game Bruce Boudreau had 154 NHL wins and one Jack Adams award, which are 154 more wins and one more Jack Adams Award than I have (or, for that matter, ever will have). That said, starting the game with Alexander Semin and Tomas Fleischmann as the wings on one line and Brooks Laich and Eric Fehr on another just doesn't make sense to me. One set of wings is made up of skill players who like to play on the outside, bring no physical presence, and are helped greatly by a guy who go to the net and create space. One set of wings is made up of guys who don't create a whole lot on their own, but forecheck tenaciously and can pick up garbage goals. Seems like a fairly clear problem in the making.
Game six, in all likelihood, isn't going to be an easy one. The Habs are still alive, they have the luxury of playing without any pressure, and they're going to have more than 22,000 fans ready to try and will them to victory.
In short, expect them to come out strong. And expect to find out whether the Caps learned anything tonight.
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I thought he said “Stupid Fuck!” But that may have been me falling back on my lip reading of former Cowboy’s coach Parcells as he gazed up to watch greenlife QB Quincy Carter chucking a hail mary on 3rd and short to no one in particular.
Either way really…
Yeah, pretty sure DMG was joking. Family site and all.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That second graph is so nice it should be a way of life.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 23, 2010 11:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Reading through the second bullet point when I got to “Fleischmann” I thought “what the fuck…” and then I got to the “on the bench” part, and though “oh, agree completely”.
I had initially placed my ire for the Too Many Men call at Varlamov, I thought he turned around right when he got to the bench (crappy internet feed). I guess I have to redirect it to Fehr.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 23, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
You’re 100% right about The Too Many men call. It was all Varlamov’s fault. He started towards the bench and then suddenly stopped when the play turned and rushed back to the net. Bruce isn’t yelling at fehr, he’s yelling at Varly.
I have to respectfully disagree. If you’re the guy coming on for the goalie, you have to know he might need to (or think he needs to) retreat to the net, and you’ve got to keep your eyes on him.
I agree, if you are coming on for any player you need to be aware of what they are doing and not just make an assumption and skate off the bench without ensure they have reached the bench.
by Beakers Lab on Apr 23, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally right. The players in the ice have enough to worry about, like getting a chance to change, or in Varly’s case, a time to come off (even though it’s BB’s call, the same rules would apply as if he was a normal player). The bench guy just has to make sure the player on the ice is getting off and enter the play.
by hockeyman33 on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
If you listen to Bruce’s post-game comments, he said there was a miscommunication on Varly’s end. Not once did he mention Fehr when assessing blame.
He’s doing it wrong.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s the oncoming player’s fault. You don’t get on until you see your man on the bench.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I think this is usually true, except when you’re a goal down with 1:03 to play and it’s the goalie coming off. I think you either have to go for it or not. Varly turning around when he’s 5 feet from the bench isn’t going to stop an ENG, so at that point it shouldn’t be a choice anymore. I think it’s Varly’s fault, and I’m pretty sure BB was mad at Varly.
Still, it’s not Varly’s fault we lost this game.
by L A Vikes Fan on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions
A few things here:
1) Bruce was PISSED in his post game presser. He made the following points – that there were 5 or 6 guys who didn’t show up for most of the night, that he was going to think very hard about lineup changes, and that the guys who’s job it is to create offense who aren’t doing that are simply not doing their jobs. Given Flash’s ice time tonight, I fully expect Walker to get a sweater in his stead in game six, and it’’s high time it happened too. At least with Walker, he won’t sleepwalk through the first 15 minutes of play.
2) We’ve driven the concern about this team’s compete level into the ground, but that doesn’t mean it’s ever going to go away. I’ve accepted the fact that this team as currently constituted will never approach each game with the exact same mentality, the same sense of professionalism that almost every past Stanley Cup winner has night in and night out. They just don’t want it as bad as the other team for vast stretches of play.
3) I hate to use the ice as an excuse, especially since Green also used it as an excuse and he was brutal again. But it’s really hampering the Capitals at home I think. Several breakout passes and cross ice attempts in the neutral zone ended up bouncing over sticks and taking strange hops. That wasn’t really happening in Montreal.
So here we go again. I fully expect the Canadiens to come out and dominate the first period Monday too. We’ll probably come back and win that one, but there will be another excuse as to why we were outhustled for a large portion of the night. The Montreal crowd was riled up. The Canadiens had their backs against the wall.
Let’s hope I’m wrong, but I think this is about to get real nerve wracking.
by Kolzilla on Apr 23, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Walker is just what we need. Flash is ineffective and not helping our team. Hopefully Walker can come up big like he did in the debut and stash some rebounds home. I’m starting to think thats almost the only way to score on Halak when he and the Canadiens D are on their games.
And I think that the Caps get it done in MTL. MTL is pretty bad at home and with two days to prepare, hopefully BB can put the right attitude in the player’s heads, that they need to play a full 60 minutes. This current attitude probably comes from the skill during the regular season. They could play one period and still compete for 2 points. Doesn’t fly in the playoffs and I hope they see it now, cause they’re gonna keep losing games they can win if they don’t.
by hockeyman33 on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Ovie/Backs/Knuble
Semin/BMo/Laich
Fehr/Belanger/Chimera
Bradley/Gordon/Walker.
Bring it.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Chimera’s a LW, sir. >:3
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Dave just wrote ‘em wrong, since Fahr’s the RW. I like these lines.
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I like swapping Walker and Chimera, but I think the right guys are in the top six and bottom six.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t even organizing like that, just typing them as I was shifting them around in my head because I wasn’t sure who I wanted as the other winger on the 3rd line. Had to be Chimmer though out of the last 3 guys.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
witch Bmo with Belanger.
That 2nd line needs more ice possesion for Semin and Laich to get comfortable. Like i said above. Laich needs to be infront of the goal/dishing the puck, Belanger needs to be making the passing decisions, and Semin needs to be making decisions as to how he is going to undress Halak
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The problem with Semin-BMo-Laich is that I don’t know what role BMo plays on it. Semin tends to be a puck carrier, so, I see Laich’s spot (right at the net), and Semin’s job, but I don’t see what BMo has been doing to really cement those three. I don’t think Belanger could do more, but that’s just my two cents.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, you bring up a good point. BMo, at his best, is perfect for them. He can score pretty goals every once and awhile, dish the puck very well, and work the cycle. At his best, he is a great all around player. That being said, I don’t know when the last time he played his best.
Belanger is playing great lately. He can make pretty good passes, not a very good shooter, but winning FOs will help the line maintain possession and give them more opportunities to get their cycle going/score.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
You can switch the centers for 2nd and 3rd lines as their play rises and falls. Neither one of them is the “obvious” choice to center the 2nd line.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Atleast we know the obvious “non-choice”: Tomas Fleischmann
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hate what I’ve become! I used to be a Flash Fanatic. . .now. . . .i must go cry
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Why? The guy screamed potential for his AHL career and the first few years of his career. At this point, he can’t scream potential anymore, and he needs to learn to dig deep or find another job. I’ve changed my mind on tons of players (Schultz with a positive, Sloan a negative, Erskine, but not really positive or negative, the list goes on). Part of fishing is knowing when to cut bait.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness I had jumped on board too when Flash appeared to be playing stronger and scoring in bunches earlier this season.
The problem is he has stopped doing all the little things that MADE him so successful over those stretches early on.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Press box him, and instead of the game, put on tape of him doing the little things in the press box with a piece of paper underneath saying “If you’re wondering why you’re here, it’s because you’re not doing this.”
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha even my thoughts aren’t that harsh. I was thinking more positive energy or “watch Eric Fehr”.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
This is just a guess…but I’m convinced that part of it was related to his only being able to work on his upper body strength while recovering from the blood clot. He got stronger in his shoulders and torso and as a result wasn’t getting pushed off the puck as much – and had a better shot.
Once he got back into regular workouts that seemed to fade a bit, to the point where we’re back to him not battling along the boards. Just my opinion, though – no clue how much is rooted in reality.
Snark alert
Your opinion is based on how pretty the player is.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Jeff Schultz at a young age

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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Except Sarge is all leg.
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Now. Took time to develop.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess so. I’ve seen him play so well!! One of the Caps games I managed to get to was one of Flash’s dominant games in November. He just played like we’ve always wanted him to. I think he was playing wing at the time, he had a few hits, was always in good positon, had some take-aways, scored 2 goals i think.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
As shitty as it is to say, he may benefit from a change of scenery. And we could benefit from a change of his scenery too.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If only Nashville had done the trade…or imagined trade
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
We shall see over the summer.
Flash on a less offensively geared team may force him to really step it up.
I am praying for a long post-season run, but i am kind of excited about the potential off-season action
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I know. . .ugh
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
At this point, yes. If our center woes continue after he’s had a game or two off, I’d be more inclined to give it a try.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps this is the final wake-up call? Not for the players, but for Bruce.
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That Flash shouldn’t be getting a sweater in the playoffs? Hopefully.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Apr 23, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and that’s really the only substitution he can make to the top 9. Clearly something needs to be done. It’s not fair to the rest of the team, the guys who lay it on the line and sacrifice themselves, to have a guy getting 2nd or 3rd line minutes who isn’t held accountable. You can’t sit Semin because you’re going to need him sooner or later.
Outside of Semin’s hustle on that pokecheck (Which was a thing of beauty, seeing as he was so patient and didn’t rush it when he could have and taken a penalty), he’s still been invisible. You might need him, but he hasn’t been there.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He needs to be better. He had a chance right between the circles on the PP in the third and missed the entire net. It seems like there are 1-2 great chances per game on his stick and he misses everything. It has to stop.
Granted – my comments towards Semin aren’t directed to try and say “this is why you can’t sit Flash,” but both are struggling. Flash is very inconsistent lately, and this series is a good reason why you can call him Flash – sometimes, the light’s just not on. I’m now firmly in the “Give him a night or two off, and see how he does with some practice.” camp. Don’t play him unless another guy gives you a reason to.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
And I know you nor anyone else is defending Flash, but to further the point, he now has five points in his last seventeen games dating back to the regular season. Let me repeat that – Flash has five points in his last 17 games.
Which means he needs at least one night off. It’s silly to keep bashing a head against the wall, but if you bench him, maybe we move that head out of the walls way. I’m not really saying bench him for the sake of his improvement, but at least so he gets some hunger in him, and if he doesn’t, well, sit him.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Flash has been invisible. I see Semin all the time. His decision making has just been poor in whether to pass or shoot, and who/what type of passes he is trying to make when he does look to pass (outside of a superb setup tonight to Schultz, when I was praying I could swap in any of our other D men than Schultz in that spot). The major issue I’ve seen is far too often entering the zone when he’s not skating into a group of 3 opposing players he’s doing his hook off and stop dead. Then he’s either tossing a hail mary shot wide, or into a defender’s feet…OR making a really obvious and bad pass most of the time.
Semin needs to be in motion to be beating D men one on one, or drawing defenders to him to lay it off to other guys driving the net. Playing with guys who don’t drive the net (aka not Laich or Fehr enough) is making everything he is doing not working at all. He’s active and noticeable, it’s just not working. I feel like he’s close.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t talking about Flash. Yeah, I defend him a lot, but this isn’t one of those times. Don’t read between my lines. But really, Semin’s “visible” in the sense that he’s shooting the puck well wide still. The turnovers are diminishing, but ugh, he’s not having the series you want. But to say you can’t sit the guy because you might need him later is silly. You can’t sit the guy because he’s so enigmatic you don’t know when he’s going to show up or not.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Not just well wide – he’s getting plenty of shots on net. It’s just that a lot of them aren’t great scoring opportunities.
There’s shots on net, but the majority of the ones you usually see him bury are well wide.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just saying if we’re only talking about sitting one guy, there’s no way any argument can convince me it’s to sit Semin over Flash.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see at all where I’m suggesting to sit Semin over Flash on this thread.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Bit of a misread on my part. I think Semin is competing just fine…the execution and roles for that line are just off right now in my mind.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
In fairness, I’ve been definitely defending Flash all series, but at this point, I can’t justify it anymore.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
After a really well officiated game between PIT and OTT last night, it was a pretty vivid contrast to this one, in which definitive calls against both sides were missed. It was hardly the difference – Washington took too long to get into this game, and by the time they did, Halak was up to the task, in a big way.
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The refs clearly blew the call on the Montreal slashing/toomany men penalty. The first ref raised his arm and then made the slashing motion but the other ref talked him out of it and just gave them the too many men. As Bob McKenzie tweeted, the correct call should have been both penalties being assessed resulting in a four minute PP. They also missed the high stick to Belanger that actually knocked out a tooth which should have been another four minute PP. Of course, with the Caps PP, it probably wouldn’t have made a difference. Still, that was some pretty lousy reffing tonight.
That is pretty ridiculous stuff.
I hated how they swallowed their whistles in the last few minutes. I understand that, it is part of the game and no ref wants to make that call that changes the game. But they let 3 calls go. A Carlson hook, a Fehr trip, and a Laich Trip. I understand maybe missing the call, but 2/3 were pretty damn blatant. These were all in like the last 8 minutes or so of the game. Then, we get the bench minor. They HAVE to call that bench minor. It is painfully obvious. But, in the end, they attempt to not have to make that call that dooms one of the teams but end up having to make it anyway. Then their choice of not calling those 3 penalties seem completely ridiculous.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The refs weren’t the reason we lost this game. I thought they missed some calls too but it’s hard for me to worry about a missed call here or there when we were taking so many silly penalties ourselves and bumblefucking the PP.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
For sure. I am just commenting on the ref’s performance.
The Capitals. . .idk. Everyone seemed really fuckin pissed about this game. I think this is the turn around we needed. (A little late though)
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not really pissed about it. I’m disappointed from the lack of “killer instinct” but I don’t think we got outplayed at all in this game. It felt like the Habs were just hanging on and hanging on. Better responses by the rest of the team after Carlson gets a shot through and the Captain puts in another dirty goal. They responded in Game 2, they didn’t tonight.
If we’re going to take that many penalties and kill our flow so much, when we get the PP we need to capitalize more. Broken record.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
agree
Yeah, I totally agree with the hanging on comment. The Caps were slow to rev up and they could never fight back. Crabs just checked to well the rest of the way for Caps to get good shots.
Maybe Flash just needs a night off.
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
We lost this game. The refs were consistently rough to both teams.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Holding call that Laich drew was absolute crap. At least I haven’t heard the tinfoilers about that call.
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
So I’m a season ticket holder and went to this horrible officiated game. I was livid!!! the refs blew so many calls it was crazy. I would like to point out 1 though that no one noticed. About 3 min left in the second period montreal had two many men on the ice!!! I was the only person screaming! no one and i mean no one had noticed. I always dvr the game so when i got home i first checked why 2 penalties hadn’t been called when OV was slashed with two many men on the ice and then i went to check out the play i was talking about. Sure enough i was right for 30 seconds Montreal had 6 men on the ice and no one noticed!!! not even the announcers noticed. This game was rigged but damn did they suck tonight.
by CAPFan4Life on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Considering they were pretty close to whistling Varlamov for being out of the trapezoid and didn’t, I’d suggest that calls were missed on both sides.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Also Corvo got away with a slash on someone’s wrist right in front of Varlamov too.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions
…I was just about to type that ;)
There were missed calls both ways, this was just a badly officiated game for both teams. Which really is fine because frankly we can’t score on the power play and they didn’t get a chance to score on theirs. Both teams equally screwed = win/win. Sorta. Or something.
not as blatant as this though, for 30 seconds they had 6 men on the ice. I mean they almost scored as a result of the play.
by CAPFan4Life on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I noticed that one too
“close” as in “ref started to raise his hand, got it halfway up, and put it back down”.
We slashed Cammalleri and it wasn’t called and later Greenie got slashed and it wasn’t called. Both were obvious and in both instances they headed straight to the bench shaking their wrists. Missed calls happen.
by CarlosLA on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
The “high stick” of Bergeron to Belanger was accidental contact resulting from the follow-through of a normal shooting motion (a pass in this case), which is, by rule, not a penalty. It’s in the rulebook, so the refs made the right (non-)call.
Yea, seriously guys. Follow through.
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Something I commented on to my brother and friends but had someone else tell me that only applied to an actual shot (or attempted shot). I truthfully wasn’t sure if there was a distinction or not. Was one of the reasons I wasn’t really worried about that supposed missed call.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again, the Bradley high stick from last game (I think) could have loosely been called a follow through as well. Not to mention it amounted to the stick blade basically just touching Markov (I think) under the chin and him reacting like a bomb had gone off.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions
60.1 High-sticking – A "high stick" is one which is carried above the height of the opponent’s shoulders. Players and goalkeepers must be in control and responsible for their stick. However, a player or goalkeeper is permitted accidental contact on an opponent if the act is committed as a normal windup or follow through of a shooting motion. A wild swing at a bouncing puck would not be considered a normal windup or follow through and any contact to an opponent above the height of the shoulders shall be penalized accordingly.
That’s the rule. It’s subject to interpretation and it’s a judgement call, but at the very least it’s not a cut-and-dried missed penalty.
That does make it sound like it has to be a shot, save for the fact that they include “goalkeeper” in the description. Either way I’d be fine with it being a non call given that I thought it was a follow through. I just thought the Brads call should have been given the same thought process. Not a big deal either way.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions
the correct call should have been both penalties being assessed resulting in a four minute PP.
Wouldn’t concurrent penalties = two minutes 5 on 3? We were really confused about that because we thought there was the stick penalty being called and then we heard too many men. And I don’t see how you cancel out a penalty to avoid that situation. I can see an it done for an idiotic reason like the team receiving the PP is ahead by a mile, but that wasn’t the case here.
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In the Versus intermission interview when asked what to do to to improve the game he talked about offensive strategies/ways to move the puck up.
So I know he was at the game(?)
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by morrisonhotshot on Apr 23, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I think he is just having a one of his typical bouts of inconsistent play, except now he is not producing goals to placate the fanbase.
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Obviously it would never ever happen, but given Greenie’s lack of efforts lately, would you bring up Alzner to play in his place? I don’t see a better solution.
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by morrisonhotshot on Apr 23, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Green is never coming out of the lineup, so realistically if this keeps up then Bruce can continue to scale back his ice time. It’s not a great situation but I guess if Poti, Carlson and Schultz all play well enough then maybe we can work around Green not being at his best.
He got a lot of ice time this year and we may be starting to see some fatigue. I don’t know what it is.
I’d bring up Alzner to replace Sloan. I didn’t list Sloan in my little post below but a capable #7 D tonight he was not. That missed hip check was brutal.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I forget who said it on twitter, but Sloan has attempted two hip checks in these 2 games, both missed, and both turned into scoring opportunities. Looked like he was backing up in slow-mo tonight.
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by morrisonhotshot on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Sloan is fine with managed opposition, but since Bruce doesn’t match lines, I say he only gets road games where Lemaires can manage them for us.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
I chuckled.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Lack of effort?
I think he worked hard on D, he just went mental on the other end.
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 24, 2010 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Chatty McChubby Cheeks definitely has not backed his shit up, that’s for sure.
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He was the guy missing every pass coming his way. Looked like he had bacon wrapped around his stick.
Ok, maybe the ice is bad but only where he was?
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Our soon to be #1 Defenseman
I thought my eyes were telling me a few weeks ago that Carlson was fast approaching if not already our 2nd best defenseman. Looks like Gabby’s starting to believe, too:
SH TOI: Carlson, 7:49. Green: 1:57.
Whither Mike Green?
(Oh, and Corvo is just as terrible as I said he’d be. He’s no upgrade over Pothier. Can we have that pick back, please?)
I don’t want to get into an argument about Corvo > Pothier. But he is better. . .you’re gonna have to trust me.
Actually you may be able to find it somwhere on the boards
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
or you could look at GVT, and see he’s worse:
With DC:
Pothier, 41G, 3.2
Corvo, 18G, 0.3
With Car:
Pothier, 20G, -0.2
Corvo, 34G, 1.8
Net net, Pothier was abou 50% more valuable this season.
No, I’m talking about Pothier’s general health, concussion aside. I’d make that trade again and not look back.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
When he actually played. They play entirely different roles with Carolina/DC.
Corvo has a few lapses here and there. And sometimes, he just looks stupid in the defensive zone. But that isnt too often. He plays very well on the PP (something we really need with Green playing like shit) , moves the puck well, and is usually a solid defender.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The ice seemed to be ok when Corvo got passes on the PP.
They went right by Greenie for some reason.
by Capital_PUNishment on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Pothier’s level of play peaked for that brief period after getting sat early in the season…then he had injury problems (again). When he came back his play never even approached that brief little stretch. Corvo has not been bad. Sloan was dragging him down big time tonight.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Slorvo hurts.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
ShaMo was almost ready to play tonight, yes? Unless that was just for show.
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I didn’t see. I turned the game on pretty much right at 7.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He skated in the warm ups.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
yep, the player formerly known as Joe Corvo was better than Potsy. This year’s Corvo (which is all we’ve got) is not better than Potsy, and wasn’t worth Potsy and the pick.
This year (2010)‘s Corvo is better than this year’s Pothier, and next year’s Corvo will likely be better than next year’s Pothier.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Corvo’s not a rotating healthy scratch. Evidence found.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
So Flash getting more TOI than Fehr is evidence that he’s the superior player?
That’s not evidence of anything other than Gabby being fallible and/or trying to figure out his new toy. Corvo was getting almost 20 minutes a game post trade, now he’s FIFTH among defensemen for TOI in the playoffs, and 4 full minutes behind Carlson for 4th. He’s ineffective and Bruce sees that now.
But enough on Corvo, he’s certainly not the reason we haven’t put away the Habs like we should have. That’s on Green, Schultz, and all 5 of the forwards who rotate around to make up the bottom half of the top 6.
Different situations completely. Flash isn’t playing in a situation where, fully healthy, 33% of the people at his position are scratched. Corvo is. Corvo is a fine defenseman, he’s playing solidly enough in his own zone and generating a moderate amount of offense. He also brings a dynamic of grit Pothier didn’t have. Character wise, maybe Pothier is a better guy off the ice, but on it, I’ll take Corvo over Pothier every day.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
How can you look at these stats and not see the inherent flaws with:
A) GvT; and
B) Your entire argument?
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by D'ohboy on Apr 24, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
The only thing I found disappointing about Corvo tonight was his lack of speed at times. He was covering for Sloan so much tonight it was hard to fault him for not getting to some loose pucks first.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on Corvo’s lack of speed. At one point I saw him really struggling to get over the boards and I was wondering if he’s having a leg/groin issue.
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.
I wonder whether he’s fully recovered from the skate cut suffered versus the Caps earlier this season that sidelined him for multiple weeks. His speed/skating for Carolina in previous seasons seemed better.
He said he wasn’t 100% yet when we traded for him.
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Corvo’s been freaking fine. He had a pretty solid game, outside of that slashing penalty (And another he could have been called on later, but it was a stick lift that hit a hand).
Carlson’s the man, but Green’s not going to stop being a #1 d-man. And what’s sweet about that is we’ll have two #1s. So you have two equal top pairings or one really good one (my preference is for the prior) and you pair them accordingly long term (is Alzner the answer to Carlson? Schultz is obviously the plan for Green) or some mix of the 4.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 23, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m suprised with how good Carlson’s been this early in his career. His ceiling seems pretty damn high.
Here’s to him being on our blueline for a long time.
by hockeyman33 on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you can pencil him in the same way you can pencil in Backstrom for a long future. Maybe you’d write Backstrom’s in pen, but you wouldn’t need an eraser handy for Carlson either.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Getting 9 shots on goal is not “flinging Hail Mary’s.” Some of those resulted in rebounds with no one around or close enough to pot them. Take Sasha off the power play? Really? He was working passes and shots in toward the net.
Funny, Alan May said Sasha was the best Caps forward on the ice tonight. I suspect he has some experience to make that statement.
Bruce should be pissed, but also pissed at himself.
I thought Semin finally played a full game today, after a lousy series so far. Funny how people see in him what they want. His incredible hustling backcheck on the Hab’s breakaway in the first was a phenomenal play to keep the game close.
His linemates were awful tonight. He kept carrying the puck into the zone and finding no to pass to, so he either shot or curled and fed the defenseman. Too often that was Schultz, who despite the love he got in this write up, has an embarrassingly bad shot.
His incredible hustling backcheck on the Hab’s breakaway in the first was a phenomenal play to keep the game close.
No doubt. Looked great on the PK too, Just looks off in the offensive zone, though.
He needs to keep moving and not stop dead. It kills his entire game. No Laich does not help.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Getting 9 shots on goal is not "flinging Hail Mary’s.
You can take a lot of shots and have a lot of bad ones. Look at his shot chart.
Some of those resulted in rebounds with no one around or close enough to pot them.
Then they’re long-range shots with little change of going in or generating offense. Hail Marys.
Take Sasha off the power play? Really?
No, not off the power play. Off the first unit on the first Caps PP for one game.
Funny, Alan May said Sasha was the best Caps forward on the ice tonight. I suspect he has some experience to make that statement.
Yeah, and Alexander Ovechkin called him out and then talked to him after the game.
by David Getz on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
All valid points. I think Ovie was pretty much right when he said the top forwards needed to put points up. Alot of Semin’s shots were just pathetic.
He would skate into the zone, look for a pass. No pass? Maybe a shot. No open lane? Look for another pass. THis whole time he is just sitting at the top of the zone with the puck. In the end, and i think he did this 3 or 4 times, just shot right into the defender.
Reminded me of basketball. When a player stops at the wrong time and a defender just dares him to shoot or pass. They can’t move cause they will double dribble. Only, in hockey, there is no double dribble
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions
read my above post echo a lot of what you said here about standing still with the puck at the top of the zone. It kills his whole game.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything it shows that they aren’t playing as a team. If you are standing around looking for a pass… there is something wrong with everything going on on the ice.
Some of it is pressing, some of it is a chemistry issue on that line. I agree wholeheartedly with the point made in the recap about playing Semin and Flash on a line together while having Laich and Fehr on another line together. The balance of the top 3 lines works so much better when you have Knubs, Laich, and Fehr paired with a skill winger on the other side.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
But which one are you going to “Bury on the third line?”
/endsnark
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
No one. Fehr/Belanger/Chimera. Sit Flash, put Walker on 4th line with Brads and Gordo.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You missed my snark.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t. I chuckled. Then wondered how Semin would feel on the 3rd. . .
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Just put him with laich or Fehr opposite him and it’ll work better regardless ;)
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure. And yeah it does kill his whole game.
he needs to just keep skating and look for a pass. He is trying to do everything himself, but then again he hasn;t had much help.
Semin-Belanger-Laich is what we need for line 2
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a real shame there wasn’t a solid number 2 Center available cheap at the deadline. I think that’s looking more and more like our most glaring hole.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
A good 2 Center would have been great. Belanger feels like a great roleplayer right now, not a center who is going to help Semin and Laich go to the bakery.
That being said, i dont think there was that much on the market this time around.
I think they should but Belanger on the 2nd though. His amazing FO% could help that 2nd line get some great posession. Semin isn’t being helped any with Flash, they should never be on the same line.
If Belanger could hold the puck more, Laich could dish more/pressure the net, Semin wouldn’t be forced to become a playmaker. He is a much better dangler/sniper. His decisions need to be how he is going to beat the goalie, not how he is going to get offense started
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
So can some one explain to me why Bruce took Laich off Semin’s line once the playoffs started? They’ve been a strong combo all year.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They played together in game one, and the start of game two. When the comeback in game two happened after some line shifting, BB kept the lines that were in that comeback.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
The issue I have is that as soon as he moved Belanger up to center Semin’s line he moved Laich off of it. I haven’t noticed in some of the juggling if they’ve had consistent shifts together those 3 but I haven’t noticed it. Wanted to see it tried.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s entirely what if, though, and nothing was available.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
When Semin’s at his best there’s no need for a guy on his line to hold onto the puck, since Semin can do that on his own. I thought we’d see good Semin (playoff Semin) this year too, as was the case each of the last two first round series, but we aren’t for some reason. No Feds?
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Semin’s role on his line is to control the play, but you don’t need two net crashers. Maybe a high slot guy with a shot and a net crasher.
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I meant more like A game Semin is the Sedin twins combined into one, and then some (and minus the faceoffs). So with a net crasher and probably another player with a decent shot his line could dominate.
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, and help is coming in the pipeline there…but truthfully I consider where we’d be without Belanger centering a line and doing as well as he has in every area other than produce offense. I guess we could do a “what if” Steckel was playing better to fill this slot or consider a longer look with Flash centering the 2nd line but neither worked so far this series.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope think Walker is a better chance than Steckel.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Stecks is still slower than Gordon and also still a lefty.
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I never saw Gordo and Knubs out as a pair on the PK tonight either? Did Bruce have the under tonight? I kept waiting for our “turn the game around” shortie.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I did look at the shots (and saw them live, with their rebounds that no Cap got). Not a thing wrong with 4 of them, and no one would complain about the others if Halak had let one in, of course.
You don’t know what Ovi said to Sasha privately. I don’t either. I would imagine a lot of talk of frustration at working so hard to make something happen, and it doesn’t. I heard what Ovi said, that Sasha and Flash needed to score those (they did need to! We needed the goals), and that the top guys need to score. He’s right, but that applies to all of them on the top 2 lines, himself included, regardless of the earlier goal.
I agree that Semin had some nice shots from high-chance areas, but if it’s only four of 17 attempted shots…that’s not a great ratio. And, sure, if a bad shot goes in, we’re all happy, but that doesn’t automatically make it a good decision. By the same token you can say ‘no one was there to get the rebound’, but some of that’s on the shooter.
To me, he just looked lost, and like he was throwing the puck at the net every time he got it. Really stood out to me because I think, generally, Semin’s as composed with the puck as anyone I’ve ever seen. I’m just hoping for a lucky goal or some help from his teammates (Laich on that line, please) to get him back to normal. By the midway point of tonight’s game I was in large part hoping they’d win just so Sasha would have a chance to hit the reset button.
You can tell when he’s pressing a little when he goes for that big windup and setup and whiffs on his wrister. He’s trying too hard to make a perfect shot.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t really say it applies to him with 5 goals and 9 points in 5 games. Besides some Game 1 jitters he’s scored in every other game.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
and saw them live, with their rebounds that no Cap got
I’ve mentioned this before in other threads, but it’s really tough to create traffic or get to rebounds if your linemate heaves the puck willy-nilly from 50+ft away before you get a chance to set up in the zone.
Semin was better last night, and his play to negate the breakaway was phenomenal. He needs to start making better decisions with his shots. Both he and Ovie need to start taking the puck wide and behind the net. The way MTL likes to collapse around the net, that will open up opportunities from the point.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 24, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Watching the highlights, looks like no less than 4 shots Semin had created scoring opportunities or were good shots from his “wheelhouse” if you will, in the high slot. I thought from what little of the game I saw that he wasn’t getting his shots up enough. Actually, all the Caps weren’t, it seemed.
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
A few thoughts from Section 427 tonight...
Mike Green needs to break out of whatever it is that causes him to be terrible in the playoffs. Maybe the ice was bad, but it’s the same for everyone out there and he looked like Buckner at Shea out there too many times to count. The power play was off again tonight and he was a big reason why. Almost time to take him off the 1st unit and put on…
…Johnny C. Does anyone know how much total TOI he had tonight because it was a ton. Echoing the post directly above mine it seemed EVERY PK him and Poti were out there putting in the work. BB had them paired with the top forward line most of the game as well. Even times I thought he was reaching on pinching he somehow beat the guy there or held him up and kept the puck in deep. For all the negatives Green has shown in the playoffs Carlson has exceeded all of my expectations.
As said by many others…sit Flash. I didn’t even notice him tonight except for 2 occasions. First when I was checking to see if Belanger was okay and had to point out to my brother that it was Flash at a certain point on the bench and not #18. The other was when he was not scoring on a prime chance late in the 3rd on a PP I believe. Was set up beautifully and hesitated and released a not so fearsome shot.
Halak will get a lot of credit tonight but I don’t think he was all that special. Tons of rebounds to be had and we just weren’t there to put them home…oh save for the Captain of course, who did what he could to bring us out of our funk.
Varly stays in, was solid and left out to dry on the goals tonight. Maybe he’d like the 1st one back but it was still a nice shot. His record in Montreal leaves me confident.
The other thing that leaves me confident is that it never felt like Montreal won this game. We lost it. Came out slow, even though we were controlling the play for the most part. PP needs to get better and we were so sloppy exiting our own zone and in the neutral zone that it (and all the penalties we took) killed any momentum we would generate.
2-1 loss. Whatever. We swept the first 2 games up there, we can go stick it to them in Game 6. Guys need to show up though. Oh and give Carlson more ice time.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:47 PM EDT reply actions
Carson had 22:46 TOI, 7:49 SH, no time on the PP
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Apr 23, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Might be time to start giving him some PP time. 23 minutes I like. I’d argue him and Poti are our top D pairing right now.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 23, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I would put Carlson on the PP instead of Green. I’ve been lobbying for that for the last several days. Something needs to be done about the PP. And fast.
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by CapsFan75 on Apr 23, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not so much about what Carlson might add offensively versus what Green is not right now in my mind. The few times the PP started having some good puck movement Green would lose a pass out of the zone or make a poor pass himself. Maybe my Carlson bias is just in overdrive because he pretty much is just excelling at everything we toss his way.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the same way. The kids been doing great, and I think he deserves that chance. If Green keeps playing like he has been, I don’t want him with Ovi to be our 2 d-men. Almost cost em tonight.
by hockeyman33 on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
WTF was the point of winning the Presidents Trophy if we stink on home ice?
by DonCaps819 on Apr 23, 2010 11:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d for insight.
That being said, I think it will really help when we get to the finals.
Yeah, I said when. Wanna fight?!?
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Two Contradicting Thoughts
1.) If the Power Play didn’t suck so horribly right now, this series is over and the theme of the night is “Caps show killer-instinct!”
2.) Functional Power Play or not, the Caps did not show killer instinct. They ramped it up in the third. Great. That’s how you’re supposed to play the WHOLE TIME. Ugh.
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Not really contradicting.
Hopefully these two days will give them ample time to tweak the PK and practice with their new lines.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 23, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the third period play wasn’t what I’m used to seeing. They had it there for themselves—only a one goal deficit, power plays given with aplomb (I hope I used it right), MTL playing a passive forecheck, Varly making big saves…and couldn’t get it done, and didn’t really pressure save on that first power play. Maybe they need two goal deficits?
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Green And Semin not showing up to the playoffs is really pissing me off a lot. There is simply no excuse, they have a responsibility and if I were BB, I’d be really pissed. He needs to find a way to motivate them.
As for BB yelling shit at the end of the game that led to the final penalty, we never should have been in that position in the first place. We had the entire game to get 2 goals, there is just no excuse for that either.
You can righfully say Green didn’t show up, but you can’t say that about Semin. Well, you can, but you’d be wrong. Tonight, Semin did everything he did when he scored 40 goals. He was finding space in the middle, he was putting a ton of quality shots on goal, he was driving to the net, he even made a fantastic defensive play.The problem is he’s in a dry patch that all snipers go through. Ovi went through it in March. Unfortunately, for Semin, he’s going through it at the worst absolute time. Tell me you didn’t watch four or five of his shots and think, “This is a goal.” There were a lot of floaters out there tonight, but for the first time in this series, Semin wasn’t one of them.
I agree that Semin stepped it up this game, but I’m not entirely sure it was the best way. It seemed more like he was truly shooting hail marys in an attempt to break out of his slump. Thats just not his style and I don’t think its going to be fruitful.
The bottom line is that Semin gets paid to score goals and until he does, he’s going to be criticized. However, tonight was a huge step in the right direction for him to get his game back. If he keeps playing like that, the goals should come. And I dare say that if all the other 17 skaters played with that intensity tonight, we might have seen a different result.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
PP shakeup idea
How about we go back to the PP unit we had when Ovi was injured/ suspended — the one w/ BMo playing Ovi’s spot, and the one that IIRC clicked at a 40% rate.
No, I’m not saying Ovi’s the problem, just looking to shake things up and trying something that worked ridiculously well. Montreal has been playing increasingly aggressively on the PK and we can’t seem to find the open man that should create.
I wouldn’t mind moving Ovie down to a wing on the PP. Him and Semin are tremendous at retrieving pucks along the boards on the PP.
One guy who seemed to have a quiet night tonight was Backstrom. He lost a few pucks in the neutral zone that normally he is able to just blow by guys.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree. I was never sure why they put Ovie at the point when he used to play the wing. Those cross ice pass to Ovie one timers are now… missing from our PP. I’d like to see them move back to the standard set up. D-men on points, Ovie and Nicky as wings and Knubs on net.
They’re missing because of a combination of Montreal doing a tremendous job applying pressure high in the zone and not giving them room to play those passes over to Ovie for one timers and the lack of us utilizing some of our possession on the side wall with Semin or Backstrom and run the down low plays (usually with Laich). The same old give and go Federov used to run for our PP that Backstrom started filling that spot. Unless you make them drop their guys from playing so high they’re going to keep taking it away.
Not enough movement by the perimeter guys anymore either sliding up high into the slot for a quick pass and shot or simply opening up lanes for guys sneaking around backdoor. When was the last time you saw Green sneak backdoor for that trademark collect and top shelf wrister? Or the Semin feed across to Backstrom? Or that cross ice feed from Backstrom to Ovie?
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s pretty much what u said in your 2nd paragraph. They need to make the cross ice pass. and ovie needs to bite. I said it somewhere on here. . .talked about the PP that is
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s all about the timing of when to take that risk of dropping down…issue is we haven’t had consistent enough zone time for the guys to feel comfortable about doing that. Also just a having good enough sense of when is the right time to jump up into the play from the point…aka what John Carlson does.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Kind of related on the passing tip, but it’s like they forgot how to play out of their zone when the Habs stack the neutral zone. It was either give up the puck to the forechecker, or try a breakout pass to the neutral zone where 4 Habs were waiting.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh completely. And they started trapping the second they scored that 2nd goal.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Problem with that is then you have to sit Knuble or a young gun. I like the idea of mixing it up, but I don’t know how I feel about taking any of those guys off the PP. The only one I’d consider is Green, the way he’s been slumping and the way Semin can snap at any moment, but I don’t like 5 forward PPs.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair point, though it may still be worth throwing the unit out with B-Mo on the point at least once.
I don’t think it would hurt. I wouldn’t mind seeing Carlson get a PP shift too, just to mix shit up. Maybe go with two pairings (say, an Ovie – Green and a B-Mo – Carlson), with two forward sets (Semin – Backstrom – Knuble, Ovie – Laich – Fehr) and give a minute to each set…that’d never happen.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Right now the PP needs to establish possession in the zone and make the passes through the middle to expose the weak side MTL leaves open every time. No one wants to make that pass right now. Ovie need to bite in on the PP too, but he doesnt want to because he doesnt want to give up an oddman rush shorthanded.
Once Ovie goes in and they make that middle pass to the Ovie or the guy in the slot (usually semin) and they tee up for shots, we will have goals
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, they’re doing a damn good job of covering that middle pass. The weak side is open, but there’s no seam.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Not enough north-south movement and down low set plays to draw them out. Also needs to be more movement to move the defenders around and open up space elsewhere.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
As a team, we’ve really been struggling passing, and it’s not the Habs tying up the lanes so much – it’s that we keep swinging for home runs instead of trying to connect singles. When we’ve just taken what they’ve given us, we’ve been fine. When we try and force things, it’s been a debacle.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
When we’ve just taken what they’ve given us, we’ve been fine. When we try and force things, it’s been a debacle
I wish they would read this.
They either have to start moving to get them to open up, or wait for them to open up themselves with a mistake. They’re pretty much forcing the triangle into the rectangle box
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The puck movement in general hasn’t been where it should be, and I think that lack of confidence of putting together a string of singles as you put it has them pressing to make that one “jump” pass to bypass multiple defenders for a good scoring chance.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Enter the MTL PK i guess.
I think if we got passes going instead of setting up just for the huge blast, we would score more.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreement reached.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Do we get points for this or something?
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, but this is one of the reasons I really enjoy the rink – I disagree with you on a Hell of a lot, but we can find at least one thing (and probably more) we agree on.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure, i look forward to disagreeing with you more and more in the future
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Green was not good tonight – but worse in my mind was the jeering from the hometown crowd for #52..or should I say “hometown” crowd. Corey tweeted about it and I thought he was making it up but as the game went on I definitely heard it and I couldn’t be more pissed.
If you were at the game and booed or jeered Mike Green, you should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously, hang your head in shame or better yet, give your ticket to someone who will support the team. Absolutely ri-fucking-diculous to do that to one of our boys, particularly in the playoffs, and have the gall to call ourselves fans.
As my seatmate pointed out, he gets enough crap and criticism from the outside world – there’s no way he should get that kind of treatment in his home building, I don’t give a shit how much people paid to be there and watch him. My impression is that he’s already playing tentatively because of what happened last year, and to have his own fans turn on him is not what he – or the team – needs.
Embarrassing. I was embarrassed to be a Caps fan tonight, that was bush league – right up there with the crap Habs fans pull on their team, and just as undeserved. I was so proud when everyone cheered and sang along with the Canadian anthem, and then that happened and I wanted to crawl under my chair and hide my jersey.
/rant. Sorry. 2 hours after the fact and I’m still pissed off.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:13 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
I don’t mind it when the fans get on him a little bit when he goes all Buckner a few times in a row on the PP. Continue to jeer him just when he would get the puck was a bit much.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s ever okay. Booing the power play in general for continuing to suck is one thing – targeting one player for something that, frankly, he always has trouble with (holding the blue line on the PP) is beyond obnoxious.
And beyond that, it wasn’t so long ago that guys would be giving interviews after games and comment on how the fans were the 7th man out there, how we wouldn’t let them lose, yadda yadda yadda – where was that tonight? Sure, we unleashed the fury and did everything we were told to do but it felt very flat in there tonight. Not that we’re to blame for it of course but it seemed like the team could have used a lift and they didn’t get it – just jeers. Awful.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
At least the new fans don’t know enough history to know why we would whoop him fans didn’t whoop.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
The booing of Green is bush league, totally agreed. Not something he needs right now at all. I’m sure this is killing him too.
As for the crowd, they did seem a bit quiet but I blame that on the Caps. The fans were ready to rock and the team came out and laid an egg for the first 15 minutes, which is usually when the crowd is the biggest factor. I’m sick of this team having to be prodded or motivated to come out and play hard, and I suspect that’s how many in the building felt as well.
No, I get that – but by the end the Habs were sucking the life and energy out of the play. Part of “home ice advantage” is having your fans behind you. You can’t tell me the 21,000+ fans in Bell Centre aren’t an advantage for the Habs when they’re backing their team. It can only take you so far but still.
Unfortunately the Habs just have a more distinct home ice advantage at this time. Our fans just aren’t there yet as far as knowing how they can impact the game and when to inject their energy into the building to pick up the team. That takes practice and hockey knowledge.
And 4,000 extra bodies ;) Somehow people always forget that when saying how much louder they are. They’ve got a huge numbers advantage.
Their arena is also far more acoustically designed for crowd noise.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It obviously helps when the team you’re rooting for is a heavy underdog. As a fan you feel more responsibility to play a part in willing your inferior team to victory. You also aren’t burdened with any expectations. As Caps fans, we’re more nervous than anything in this round. If we win, we’re just doing what we’re supposed to but if we lose then it’s an unmitigated disaster.
That can help.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Habs weren’t sucking the life out at the end…the energy was great from about the 15 min mark down to the 5 min mark in the 3rd…then we started makes gaffes all over the ice getting the puck out of our own zone and through the neutral zone. Killed a lot of clock really just being harried by the Habs while we did all the work for them not making any smart plays.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The fans were a little off all night. Credit some of that to the guys supposedly playing to “end the series” and giving up 2 goals very early on. Also so much of the flow and momentum we would try to build was getting killed with the amount of penalties we took. On the flip side, the fans were really getting behind the PK all night, even Green.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
meh, I don’t see how us booing Green is any different the us booing a poor team performance Like we did earlier this year vs Flames? I forget whatever.
I don’t agree with booing on principle.
But he plain sucked, and if I was not so averse to booing personally I would have booed all night long.
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It wasn’t just booing. It was jeering, a weird kind of mocking tone as if we’d been infiltrated by Pens fans. And I’m sorry, I think it’s wrong. We’re not Pens fans, we’re not Habs fans, and Green was fantastic for us all year (and got nominated for the Norris TODAY) – we forget that with a few games, in a series in which we still lead regardless? Just wrong.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Groaning over the puck coming out of the zone isn’t an issue in my book. That wasn’t so much directed at Green as the simple fact it just WAS him that let it out multiple times on plays that killed some PP’s. The rest of it I 100% agree with you on but everyone is going to moan a little over a missed opportunity.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, believe me – the groaning when the puck bounces over the blue line is something I do, too, and unfortunately since Greener is on the point for most of the power plays, he’s going to be right there when it happens. But this was beyond that, definitely targeting Green whenever he had the puck.
Out of curiosity, were you at the game or watching at home? I’m wondering if you could hear it on TV – I’m hoping no, that the embarrassment was limited to those of us inside VC tonight.
No I was at the game, and I’m agreeing with you the stuff directed at him simply when he had possession of the puck is just embarrassing. Your first rant I may have taken the wrong way in saying we shouldn’t groan or even mutter “Damnit Green” as the puck hops over his stick again. Because yeah, I do that.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard a lot of whistling and whooping, but couldn’t figure out who it was for. (on the teevee)
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was at the game and I thought he earned the jeers. mostly what I heard was “C’mon Green, get your head outta your ass” as he let the puck skip past him at the point or turned it over in our own end or repeatedly stumbled over the puck.
This is 2 years in a row of playing horribly in the playoffs. He basically acts like a smug a-hole as opposed to the gritty hard-working SOB he needs to be. Not sure why he’s getting a pass here or suggestions that he needs more TLC. He just needs some balls, so that he goes back to being the attacking skater that makes him great, not this timid D-first bumbler he’s turning himself into.
by CarlosLA on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think it’s more him worrying too much about finding the balance he’s “supposed to have” as a D men in the playoffs. Unfortunately while we’d all probably live with him playing solid in his own zone even if the offense was missing, the switch seems to be flickering on both ends. I’m hopeful he breaks out of it soon or BB just sits him down and tells him to just start “being Mike Green” again.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I never said he needed more TLC. I’m not saying we should give him extra loud applause when he touches the puck for icing. I’m saying there’s no need to single him out and mock him and treat him as badly as some of the worst fans in the League treat their teams. It’s just not okay.
He’s not acting like a smug anything, not to me at least – everyone takes one quote and decides that’s what he’s like, but I don’t buy it. And I think he is hard-working, and it showed this year – especially down the stretch.
I do agree w/ you that he needs to go back to doing what made him great. That’s the problem right there, I get the feeling that after all the bashing he got from last year he’s just extra-cautious. He jumped into the play once tonight, got a good scoring chance on it and still got back in time to play defense again – we need more of that.
But until he gets that part of his game back, there’s no need for US to pile on him – at least not at games. Pick apart his play here if you must, and I’m all for that, but the jeering? The booing? I’m sorry, it comes across as bush league. Take it to Montreal, leave that shit out of my building.
Usually Poti gets that treatment (he certainly did in Game 1). I’m curious, do you feel the same about him?
I’m not really sure why you ask that, and I’ll be honest, I haven’t heard it directed at Poti. If I did, though, I’d feel the same way.
At least Poti heard cheers in what, Game 2?
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t hear anything even close to what Green got a few times tonight for Poti in Game 1. That seemed reserved for certain plays and stayed in that reactionary moment.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Well said, Sister in Arms.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i was purely embarassed to be a Caps fan for the way the team didn’t show up once tonight, not even one soul on this team made any extra effort (carlson excluded) to bring life to this team. This loss is on BB and the entire coaching staff tonight mostly but every player has to be held accountable.
And when you get run over by Gomez as he’s going to the net expect some razzing no matter how good or bad you maybe.
If Poti can't clear and Green can't defend a 2on1 how will we win?
The Captain going to the net to poke in another dirty goal that helped keep us in the game is another exception in my book. Varly rebounding from 2 early goals (something we’d all poke and prod about his lack of mental toughness) to shut the door the rest of the way deserves mention as well.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
maybe i expect too much then. Varly stepping up I will include to exclude, good point on that. Ovi’s goal…still not overly convinced on. I can not understand how you go through game 7 of the first round from last year and not remember that and somehow replay that and try and match that only with your team against the Canadians. BB and the coaches better reign the boys in. I mentioned to my seat mate that there is too much creative freedom and not enough set plays, we also are under-utilizing Chimera’s speed. Something has to change as Hershey would have played better tonight than the Caps did, plain and simple
If Poti can't clear and Green can't defend a 2on1 how will we win?
I’ll disagree on the Chimera’s speed part. We’re using it for exactly what it’s good for. Dump it in and he’s there first…99% of the time. Most of the time after that his line will have a decent shift and some good zone time. Trying to utilize it to set him up offensively has shown that while it stretches the D some the tendency is for his nickname to change from Beast to Stone Hands.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
not explaining clearly, chalking it up to alcohol and post game frustration. The Chimera part, I was meaning plays oriented to utilizing more through the neutral to draw interference penalties from having to hold him up or angled drops to let him drive in and hold it for a second to let everyone get in and set up in the zone.
If Poti can't clear and Green can't defend a 2on1 how will we win?
He’s almost too good at dodging around guys with his size and speed to draw those calls. Simply put he just beats them to the puck every time. I love the guy.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Varly got stronger as the game went on. The first period was obviously a problem (with the two early goals I was wondering if he’d lost his competitive edge), but he settled down, and made some nice saves later on.
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I don’t think either one was really a soft goal. Ones he might be able to stop but neither were bad and both from prime scoring areas after breakdowns.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Amen sista. The guy behind me was the epitome of your description. He started early before Green was even truly sucking it up. Within the first 2 minutes of the game, the guy had proclaimed that “If Green wins the Norris, I’ll throw up!” He heckled him the entire game, and it was pissing me off. Yeah I’m a girl wearing a Green jersey, but I know he sucked tonight. But as a Caps fan, root for your team, not against them. I don’t understand jeering the guys you root for. He’s probably the same douche that acts like Mike is “the greatest” every time he scores.
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by terpgrrl on Apr 24, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d be willing to bet 99% of the people jumping on Green after tonight (hell I definitely was dogging him on the way home) would love nothing more than for him to find his game a little, score a nice PP goal Monday night, and let the confidence come back a little.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, I think that’s a lot of his problem. He’s under massive, massive amounts of pressure to preform.
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On the defending him side…probably to the point he can’t realistically live up to it by being both the shutdown top pairing D men and still the explosive offensively D man.
On the dogging him side…Ovie’s under pressure to perform too, and he’s got 9 points in 5 games.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Not like Mike Green is. He has to prove everyone that last year was a fluke. Ovi preformed last year, Green didn’t and got a ton of shit for it.
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Agreed, save that Ovie will always have an even higher ridiculous standard. He’s averaging 1.8 points per game and people just say “Crosby has 13 points in 5 games”. He didn’t win the Richard, etc.
Then again, comparing the production of anyone else to what Ovie can/does is also silly.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
If Green scores he’ll break out.
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Ovie has also said that whether they are cheers or boos he thrives off of them. From what I can tell, Crosby responds similarly to such pressures. Not every top player has that fortitude. It seems like Green performs better when he has positive reinforcement from the crowd.
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There’s definitely a difference between dogging a guy and heckling him. This guy was beyond ridiculous. First, he leaned so he was yelling his heckles directly into my ear. My whole row was fed up with him, so it wasn’t just me being defensive or anything. I even had a couple “c’mon greener” comments, but not like a “YOU SUCK GREEN!! GET OFF THE ICE!!” like this guy.
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Can’t stand people like that. Speaking on leaners, 427 was full of them. Guy and girl standing up during key moments as well. I really hate getting stuck behind those types. Never thought I’d be happier to have us shooting at the far end from my seats twice until tonight.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Well these aren’t our normal seats. We were the few seats that got displaced for the playoffs since I usually sit in 421 right next to the visitor’s press box. We’re in 425 and I hate it. I can’t believe the people in that section pay more per game than I do. The view sucks. Even if people aren’t leaning, I can’t see the goal in my end.
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You got a one night’s stay at that place though, right?
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I DID!!! I was all excited because my cousin is getting married there this summer and I have to be there Friday- Sunday since I’m in the wedding. I get the voucher – only good Sunday thru Thursday. Bastards.
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Geez…like sending a perfect set up pass cross ice only to find out it’s Flash that has the chance.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it was the freshest memory in my mind for something that should have been really good that wasn’t.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
I could see nothing in that same whole end up to the blueline. Was having to train myself when to look at the big screen then back to the ice as the play was moving in and out of that line of view. Damn leaners.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions
I talked to quite a few people tonight who want to bench Green.
But who would we replace him with? He’s a better alternative than any I can think of.
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Was under discussion among some friends at the bar after the game. Everyone was kind of against it since we already have Sloan in the lineup. I mean are you really going to sit Green and bring in Erskine? Against Montreal?
Of course…I did bring up Alzner. Thoughtful looks followed.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, benching Green in favor of Oisk would be dumb. I’m not advocating that move. Reduce PP time, maybe. Reduce ice time in general, but not bench him entirely.
Next question: when will Sha Mo be back?
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Earlier on here someone said he did skate in warm-ups. Extra day of rest can only be good too.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
One of those guys was in Section 407. He was wearing a #00 “Suck it Crosby” Jersey. After the game, F&B overheard him chanting “Trade Mike Green” at high volume.
Real class act, that one.
Oh, and he and his “Larry the Cable Guy” BFF were both egregious leaners. Fucking tools.
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Future Toronto Maple Leaf Eric Fehr didn’t have a very good game :(
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The fact that you said that means your priorities have shifted too far, and you need to find yourself.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a joke.
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I know.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well you’re being a dick about it.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Also a future Maple Leaf (or a Ranger): Brooks Laich.
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And you’re calling me a dick.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel like I should flag this comment.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yet again, joke.
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…as was my comment. You think I’d flag something because you said Laich would be a Ranger or Leaf? Really?
Now if you said he wasn’t gorgeous, THEN I whip out the banhammer. No place for that kind of language on the Rink. Ahem.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I hope Laich gets a 6 inch scar from one cheek to the other across the bridge of a terribly broken nose, but I hope it doesn’t hurt or require him to miss a game.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
If Admins have the power to change avatars, you should change banned users avatars to just say “BANNED”
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
They do! To funny, funny ends sometimes!
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how does that work when they comment across 5 or 6 different SBN sites, though? can one team’s SBN blog admin really do that?
by Natty Bumppo on Apr 25, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
My snark-o-meter is malfunctioning.
It would be a huge bummer, believe me.
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Not funny at all. Not one bit.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Apr 24, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This, is an intervention.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
He was missing in action around the net some, but he was winning some battles on the boards. Could see more from him though.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
On the way out of this game, I heard a guy saying that the Caps need to “trade away Semin and Backstrom for that defenseman they have up in Ottawa.”
Just felt the need to share that pearl of wisdom.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 AM EDT reply actions
Backstrom, no. Semin, I’d be open to trading – but not for Volchenkov.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Sill question, Ben. In your objective mind, given that you’re a Flyers’ fan, who do you realistically think will win the Caps/Habs series. Given the current situation and the strengths and weaknesses of each team. Who do you think will win? And in how many games?
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The Caps are a way better team, so it’s tough for me to envision the Canadiens actually winning this series under any circumstances (especially after the way they blew Game 2, which goes down as one of the biggest chokes in playoff history in my mind).
I think the Caps are extremely guilty of looking ahead regularly in the playoffs, most probably all the way to Pittsburgh rematch. And with this team’s propensity for making every single game necessary, I don’t know if the killer instinct will be there in Game 6, either. They will presumably be aware of the urgency of the situation by the time a Game 7 rolls around, one would think, so I’ll take the Caps in 7.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
While Pronger waits in Philadelphia, patiently filing his elbows into razor-sharp points.
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Personally, i think he is drawing up the physics equations that prove that it isn’t his fault his elbows come up
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you an expert?
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by Ovechwin on Apr 24, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But you did hit him in the head, right?
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Their whole team keeps me up at night!!
Well, mainly Carcillo’s stache
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Are you asking me or are you telling me?
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Apr 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You got it ;D
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
It was on the replay.
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by Ovechwin on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m going to be so depressed when this joke is no long funny.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Apr 24, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s fast approaching I’m sure.
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You’re sure? So you’re… nevermind.
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by dinasaur on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahahaha Well done!
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Truthfully I don’t see how tonight’s game “scares” anyone into thinking we’d lose Game 6 or heaven forbid 6 and 7 in this series. We weren’t outplayed we just shot ourselves in the foot too much with sloppy play and effort missing at the outset.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much this.
I am just angry that we have to wait until Monday to see how the Caps bounce back and put this series away
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Less fog related travel issues forcing the guys to not get into bed until the sun is up might not be a bad thing either. Or having to cancel a practice.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
True dat.
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
the part that is “bothersome” is the fact that the Canadiens didn’t do anything special or new and our game took a step down. Sloppy play all around it was like the last regular season game we were playing out there tonight from my vantage point
If Poti can't clear and Green can't defend a 2on1 how will we win?
They did do 1 thing special.
After their 2nd goal, they just instantly went to trap. Little tough, but they shouldve broken it.
Team seems like they are def looking past this series and into the future.
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I can’t call it a trap when it allowed 38 shots on goal. We flirt with 40 shots on goal too much to call it a trap. Just far too much from the perimeter with no one there to collect loose change or when we did just no one giving the effort o bang it home.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Idk what you would call stacking the blue line and playing with the 3 forecheckers at the redline. I know it isnt a pure trap, but it is something like it
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Maybe I should rephrase to say they aren’t playing it that well…we’re just settling for half-ass chances instead of putting in the work to create more at times.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Truthfully I don’t see how tonight’s game "scares" anyone into thinking we’d lose Game 6 or heaven forbid 6 and 7 in this series.
Two words: Jaroslav. Halak.
Nah. There was very little traffic in front of him last night. Fix that (see game three), and problem solved.
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Agreed, but it’s not just getting traffic, it’s waiting for the traffic to develop, then taking shots that exploit the traffic.
This is why, despite his shot/Corsi numbers, Sasha’s play has been so frustrating. He’s not waiting until Laich gets in front of the net, and he’s not keeping the puck low to create rebounds, he’s shooting high glove each and every time – those shots are A) hard to deflect, and B) don’t generate rebounds.
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Agreed, but what’s somewhat worrisome is that like you said, we have the blueprint to beat him yet failed to employ it last night. Why didn’t we? I would think that has to be on the coaching staff.
Halak can’t beat us in a 7 game series, but now it’s a two game series and there’s no reason we should be giving him even a sniff of an idea that he can steal two games in a row from us.
The prolem was letting them get up by two early. They took the Caps off their game by playing the trap. I hate a game where the opposition is no longer concerned with scoring, but simply playing keep away. I remember watching kid soccer games likes that — boring as crap, and you have to be able to deal with it or the game is over.
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Once the Habs got the 2-goal lead, the turtled, going back into the trap. It’s tough to generate traffic when you can’t even get the puck into the zone with possession.
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Fair enough – but it’s like not like they didn’t have their chances. Caps had 38 SOGs – you can debate the quality of those shots but I’d imagine more than 1 would have gone in if they had screened the goalie better.
Agreed, but I felt like the Caps had to put forth so much effort just to get into the zone that they were tired once they got there – their chances were typically just one-shot affairs without much traffic.
I have no idea what the problem with the PP is, however.
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We knew the same thing about Lundqvist last year. How long did it take us to figure that out?
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Right. Although I think we’ll still have this series under control, there should be some concern if Halak is able to repeat his solid effort again in Game 6.
Every playoff series we’ve played in the last two years have gone 7 games. I wanted to see an urgency from the team to break that streak last night, but it damn well better be broken on Monday or it’s trouble.
Halak didn’t really make any 10 bell saves last night by any stretch. I didn’t see him robbing guys constantly and even said in his comments how Flash’s hesitation on that 3rd period chance let him get back into the play and it just happened to hit his blocker. Luck counts for something I suppose.
He also was leaving a ton of rebounds that we just weren’t taking advantage of. He was solid but I never felt like he was the reason we weren’t scoring…we were.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay for educated fans!
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by Steck It Out on Apr 24, 2010 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
My useless fodder on this
Was pretty bummed coming home from the game. Then I realized that I just can’t see the Habs sweeping us in a 3 game series…and really, that’s what it would take. So I felt a bit better. Crappy game, but okay, it will cost some rest…we were all looking to Philly, perhaps they were too.
Other observation:
Game 1, no “Don’t stop Believin’”. Loss
Game 2, Played just before OT, win in 31 seconds.
Game 5, not played. Loss.
Just saying.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
In that same vein, I feel like the fury was unleashed very early in this game. Too early?
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Fury was never unleashed. . .pretty mediocre game all around.
Gratz on beating NJ though. . .
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by kingzman264 on Apr 24, 2010 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I just meant the actual “Unleash the Fury” montage.
And thank you.
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by Ben Rothenberg on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
A hair early (they usually wait for the last TVTO).
That said, I was kinda surprised they didn’t break it out sooner.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Regarding the ride home from the game, I’d probably put myself in your boat. dinasaur had to talk me down from the ledge a bit, particularly using the “no way we lose three straight” argument. But I’m really hoping they take care of business in game 6, because I don’t think my heart can take another game 7. I’d even consider selling my tickets, but let’s hope it doesn’t come to that.
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Missed this game and they lost :(
Did anyone play well at all?
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Hmm, Ovie had a goal… Varly played ok. Semin had lots of shots. Thats about it. Take it for what you will.
Correct me if I’m wrong but the caps don’t seem to pick their shots well. Semin especially.
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by EmilyB on Apr 24, 2010 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Anyone else think our PP was bitchin’ tonight? I thought we were kept in the game only by our PK.
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by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys should do a better job at coordinating your Sloan hatred.
Good job by Bruce Boudreau to hide Tyler Sloan as much as possible. The top three forwards he played against at even strength, by ice time? Maxim Lapierre, Dominic Moore and Travis Moen (and Moen abused Sloan on one rush, and the trio scored the Habs’ final goal). That Gabby was able to play Sloan nearly 16 minutes on the road and have so little time against the top two lines was a good thing.
But then that play was “solid” so it could be twisted into how ineffective he was tonight:
Boudreau did a pretty effective job of sheltering Tyler Sloan in the Caps’ game four win, especially considering the game was on the road, and Sloan responded well, playing a generally solid game.
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Semin can’t pass the puck to guys that can’t get open. He’s got no one open or winning battles on the LW. He’s shooting, they aren’t high percentage, he’s frustrated and he needs some presence on the other wing, someone crashing a net and creating holes. Its a one man line. Belanger and Semin aren’t clicking but maybe with a presence on the wing, they would.
Mo hasn’t done dick, too bad Aucoin isn’t better,
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions
Them lines is crazy unconventional. I love how many armchair coaches we have – I wouldn’t mind seeing those lines some time, but I’d prefer regular season. No reason to go completely off the cuff up 3-2 in the series.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
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Chimeras driving the net, and thats were Semin sends them. Flash can’t get there, and the only LW showing the will is Chimera. I’d love to see Laich back, but until then, get Chimera involved and give Semin someone to get the puck to that can move through the slot, not get lost in the weeds.
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Or Semin could play Left Wing, and you can put Laich with him to do the same job.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, although Chimera is such a monster retrieving pucks on dumps I’d like to see that 2nd line for maybe a period early in another series.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
beats having flash in there, and its essentially flipping Laich and Chimera, while removing Flash and adding Walker. Flash is gone, Walker’s coming in, someone has to get the 2nd line going.
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Its safer to go under the assumption that their is not necessarily another series
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
That is always the assumption until we actually win the current one. Although we do have Chimera next year too right? Even atom bomb case scenario this year you’d have to figure we’d have another series next year to try it out ;)
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, Boston was #1 last year and almost missed the playoffs because of some untimely injures. You never know…
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
“almost missed” when they closed out down the stretch to earn the 6th seed is a tiny stretch. They’re also headed home with a chance to send Buffalo and Ryan Miller home early. Given those same injuries you alluded too it’s pretty clear the quality of the Bruins is coming through in the crunch a little bit.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
almost missed becasue in the last 3 or 4 games they went from staying in as the 8th seed to jumping to 6th while philly leapfrogged to 7th and montreal dropped to 8th because NY got bounced out, all in the course of 4 games. #1 to #6-8 is sizable drop.
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh no question, but they were in the hunt for the majority of the year and truthfully with Rask in net they were definitely a playoff team. The injuries certainly didn’t help and there is always a “what if” with injuries each year but their year has been on the extreme side with all the key guys they had get hurt.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m just saying getting Semin going will do a lot to balance the scoring out. Chimera seems to want it, it can’t hurt, and a change at wing is made already with Flash being out. It doesn’t seem that far fetched to me. Carcillo’s scoring playoff game winners, eh?
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously our mistake in OT in game one was not having Erskine on the ice.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
If Semin even has 2 goals in this series it’s probably over already. Even 1 at a key time. It’s coming, you have to win 4 and we only need 1 more while they need 2. Montreal and Varly’s combined recent history in Montreal don’t leave me worried at all.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with winning 66% of your games in the playoffs.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s true. (We’re just paranoid around here and fear any loss is a prelude to disaster.)
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I know how it works in the realm of Caps fans.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
I think most of the disappointment tonight is how we lost this game, not how we could get beat in the series. I dislike having the exact same results Game to Game in our series as Pitt has had as well.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, they have better goaltending.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Clarification – msm = mainstreammedia.
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by Whiter Mage on Apr 24, 2010 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly their D has not been nearly as good as it was last year. Fleury has made some pretty good stops, but has gotten left out to dry some as well.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
He can be streaky for sure…but he has put together good stretches for runs to the Finals and a Cup last year. This as we know (Cam Ward) instantly makes you a $$$$ goaltender who can do it when needed. Until your guy does it, he will always be considered below those who have. No matter what current evidence suggests.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
No, i’m not worried about losing the series unless there’s a game 7 OT. But I think you play the hot hands, and Chimera is playing well enough for a couple shifts driving the net so semin has someone to play with for once.
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Quick summary from 400:
- Carlson makes the entire defense look amateur. You watch so many Caps games and you forget what a good defense actually looks like. Carlson has his rookie moments now and then, but jesus, our D corps is terrible sometimes and he stands out as the only bright spot.
- Sure the Caps PP is struggling, but the Canadiens PK is astounding. You know why? They attack the puck and they don’t dump it the moment they touch it.. I would LOVE to see the caps do this even once or twice per PK. When they actually do it, they score! Clearing it doesn’t even work half the time anyway.
- Sloan is a joke.
- Semin is trying – the effort is there, the results are not. In due time…
- More Chimera please.
To the guy yelling ‘Activate the Swede’ in 400.. it makes more sense when Backstrom is on the ice.
Great observations.
Maybe the Caps should take lessons from Montreal on PK.
Yes, I think Semin is trying and it’s not just my imagination. (I admit to being a Semin fan and am currently suffering.)
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Our PK’s actually been a bright spot in this series. We’re not allowing all that many PPGs and have gotten 2 shorties. We don’t need lessons on that in my opinion (and I’m loving the infusion of guys we weren’t seeing before – Chimera, Knuble, etc). Power play, yes. PK? Eh. I’m fine with it as is.
Truth. There hasn’t been a game this series their PP has “dominated” our PK in. Sure they can roll out that “a goal in every game of the series” stat (before tonight)…but putting up 2 shorties has negated most of it. The % will look better after tonight too.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions
A quick look at SH TOI/G from the regular season to the playoffs:
Steckel: 2:51, 1:50
Gordon: 2:39, 2:52
Laich: 2:05. 3:43
Belanger: 1:47, 2:36
And John Carlson’s whopping 3:21 in SHG minutes/G in the playoffs is second to Tom Poti (4:32).
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone posted his SH TOI tonight and it was over 7 minutes I believe. Him and Poti are getting it done.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Belanger, DDS has announced his new office hours.
http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=67438
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by EmilyB on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Glad they got that up so soon. Awesome.
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Why did I CLICK?? GAH. Gross gross gross (awesome) gross gross. The Dentist is in.
by Becca H on Apr 24, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would like to know why Joe B and Locker didn’t see fit to mention this EVEN ONCE in their broadcast. TSN knew where the real story was.
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awesome. two refs looking right at it too.
by The Jade Donkey on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I said it in the GDT thread, but i think this is why the Caps are playing Monday and not Sunday.
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We’ll have plenty of rest if we finish the game up on Monday.
I am pretty sure they don’t start the rest of the play-offs until every team is done. So we’ll have to wait for everyone else. . .and i think atleast one of them will go 7 giving us ample time off. And with 2 days in between, it is more like the reg season. with rest and such
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Eh, usually they have one 2 days off sequence in a series to help with tv scheduling. I don’t know if this was the idea or not.
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C’mon man, chill. An extra day means ShaMo is that much healthier, and also allows Dr. Belanger to get the rest of his mouth repaired. I bet the one tooth was not the only injury.
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This. No fog mishaps or practice cancellations either.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Cup winners benefit from no rest for the weary?
“Every coach in the NHL whose team goes up 3-0 or 3-1 in a series is bombarded with questions about the need to close out a team early and get rest, the assumption being the quicker you win a series, the better your chances of winning the Cup. But our good friend, Sun newspapers national columnist Chris Stevenson, came up with these telling stats. He looked at the last 13 Stanley Cup champions and discovered that playing fewer games didn’t necessarily translate to success. The team playing the most games when the dust cleared won eight of the past 13 Cups.
Since the lockout, Carolina, Anaheim, Detroit and Pittsburgh have all ended up playing more games than their opponents. Those four teams also won the Stanley Cup. Only twice in 13 postseasons has the team playing fewer games won it all. So, what’s the deal? Maybe the rest is overrated and the adrenaline of playing longer series is enough to make up for a lack of rest."
You could also easily claim from just that information that playing against better competition (and therefore being more likely to lose additional games) sets you up better for the SCF. And, no matter how many times we lose to Montreal, they ain’t better competition.
That also only considers teams that make the SCF, which is a concern in itself that isn’t addressed.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Apr 24, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Pittsburgh hasn’t exactly had a “tough” road (our series being the exception) to either of their last two Finals appearances, playing teams not much tougher than the Habs.
And frankly in the playoffs, every team is tough competition. The Habs aren’t at the same level as we are and they certainly backed into the playoffs but they’re not pushovers – if we get out of this series we might be glad they played the Habs.
Robert at Habs Eyes on the Prize had a post that the Caps are providing a measuring stick for the Habs. It’s my intention to write him after the series is over that the Habs are also providing some benchmarks for the Caps.
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I think their competitive enough, and they are a good team for us to get past in the first.
They play total system hockey, something the Caps need to get past.
We won’t be facing the trap anymore in the POs i dont think, so we’ll be ok in that respect, but we will still need to adjust our game to other teams
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That’s really interesting, actually…I like it.
It also worked for Team Canada at the Olympics, btw – more games meant more time to iron out the wrinkles and by the time they got to the big games they were clicking on all cylinders. Smaller sample size, but same idea…
There was this interesting stat during the olympics – historically evry gold medal-winning team had lost at least one game during the tournament, and the silver medal-winning teams were undefeated coming into that final game.
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Source
Source is ESPN’s Scott Burnside btw…still don’t like ESPN hockey coverage but can find occasionally find some useful info.
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
game 7 series
Still, there has been no team that’s won the Cup playing 28 games (16 wins, 12 losses). If this series goes to seven games, I won’t be able to take it anymore.
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t imagine it going beyond the next game.
Watching the post-game presser, everybody was pretty fed up about this game. I think they’ll be putting in a full 60 on Monday. Take it to the bank
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I hope and pray that you’re right. (Or should I go shopping Monday night instead of watch the game and maybe the boys will ahve better luck.)
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Maybe BB will be mad enough to make a roster change or two (hopefully just the one).
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Which roster change? Benching Green or Flash. Don’t recommend benching Green totally even if I’ve lobbied for Carlson to replace him on PP.
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Green won’t ever get benched, nor should he. Flash should sit. Bring in Walker. Hopefully ShaMo can go as well.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Unfortunately, I think the only way Green gets out of this slump, is playing out of it
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Nothing new for Semin though, playoffs or regular season. If he wasn’t taking shots I’d be worried, and the effort level is there.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the effort level is there, as well. He’s showing plenty of effort on the defensive front as well. Slumping Semin is actually +1 in the playoffs. If he were that bad defensively, he’d be a significant minus. So, he hasn’t really cost us defensively.
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He’s still his disruptive self on the PK as well for the most part. I feel like it’s coming…but damned if I don’t want it to hurry up. Like Monday night.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I want it to hurry up as well. (I’ve spent a fair amount of time trying to defend Semin.)
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A lot of us have…maybe the compete level wasn’t where it needed to be at the start of the series but the last few games he’s been very involved. That diving poke check tonight was exceptional…he looked like he was going to go for it much earlier but held it until he knew he could do it without taking a call. Those are the times when that talent and decision making meet in the right place.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions
He looked at the last 13 Stanley Cup champions and discovered that playing fewer games didn’t necessarily translate to success. The team playing the most games when the dust cleared won eight of the past 13 Cups.
…when you play four rounds you’re going to play the most games or the second most games, right? Or did he do this on a per-series, average, basis?
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I took it as at first, and of course that’s common sense. But I think he meant that the the Cup champion plays more games than the other team that makes the SCF.
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
8/13 then is not much removed from 6/13 (less than half).
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Whatevs…the more I think about the game, the more I see positives going forward and fixable stuff for the rest of this series. We’ve lost a 3-2 OT game and a 2-1 “pray our early lead holds up while they either come at us or fumble it so we get a break” game.
And we have John Carlson.
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I have no problem with fixable problems, as long as we’re not on the brink of elimination.
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Which we aren’t. And the Habs’ recent playoff history playing at home and Varly’s all time record up there are fun stuff to make me nod my head in anticipation. He certainly wasn’t the reason we lost tonight.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Sloan’s play on the second MTL goal had me swearing out loud. And that specific play is a tendency that I’ve seen a lot of in the playoffs.
You can lay out the big hit, but it goes to waste when the other team scores. Defend the play instead and keep that goal off the scoreboard.
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Laying the big hit is one thing…if you stop the puck. Have seen Green (mostly last year) make this mistake before on a 3 on 2 by stepping up to destroy the puck carrier only to let the puck keep going and it turns into a 2 on 1.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
This season, the Caps went 2-1-1 against the Habs.
This playoffs, we are 3-1-1.
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in the playoffs
no need to distinguish overtime losses in the playoffs. We are effectively 3-2, not 3-1-1.
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, no Bettman points in the playoffs. A loss is a loss is a loss whether regulation or OT. Which is why I was harping so much on Won/Loss records and counting the OT losses as losses earlier this year.
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The format isn’t fair though – we don’t play OT online at 5 on 5, and shootouts should just be thrown out.
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You’re right on that. I like the Olympic point system for OT better than the NHL system. But I heartily detest the Olympic shootout format even more. That T1-T2 T1-T2 T1-T2 followed by T2-T1 T2-T1 T2-T1 etc. and the ability to have the same guy shoot over and over again after the first three. Uggh!!
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My purpose was to show that the post-season record against the Habs is generally following the exact trajectory of our regular season.
Regular season: One regulation win, one OT (technically SO) win, one regulation loss, one OT loss.
Playoffs: Two regulation wins, one OT win, one regulation loss, one OT loss.
In other words, the Caps and Habs are playing the postseason at the exact same levels of skills, abilities, and determination as they did in the regular season.
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by EmilyB on Apr 24, 2010 1:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the reason I was leery of having drawn Montreal. Not that I didn’t think they could beat anyone, but they were clearly the toughest matchup, given the regular season games.
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Alright. I am peacing
I will drink to the Caps playing very well in game 6.
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More on the much-maligned Flash...
When Flash was a goal-scoring machine just after returning from the blood clot, who was he playing with? Wasn’t it Flash-Laich-Semin? Does anyone else think the move to center has never worked out? He’s more of a playmaker at center but at least was scoring goals on the wing.
Was it that line? I’m not sure that it was but Flash I know was scoring a lot more goals by going to the net and putting home some loose change.
Flash’s TOI tonight might be a sign that even BB is fed up with his play. This is my hope at least. A little Scott Walker would be nice to have I think.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
On Flash, I wonder if last year’s health problems are contributing to his lack of stamina for the playoffs.
Last year, he was less productive during the 2nd half of the year due to pneumonia. Then, he had his deep vein thrombosis problem since the tail end of the playoffs. With him not being able to work out as much as normal during the off season, I wonder if he ran out of gas.
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Even considering how much emphasis some people here put on his TOI versus Fehr’s, he’s never really playing “big” minutes to the point I’d say he’d be running out of gas. Perhaps the thrombosis issue is a reason for it, but given his actual average compared to big minute guys I’d hope he’d still have some left in the tank.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Another comment on our D pairings
The only 2 guys that were a plus tonight were Carlson/Poti both a +1.
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Carlson and Poti are now our top defensive pairing. One clue: they were announced as starters along with Ovi’s line.
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The rest of the game clue. Their TOI short handed and the frequency with which they were paired with Ovie’s line the rest of the game.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn’t look comfortable enough with the team to be out there on the PP. Next year, yes, it’d be nice to see him run the 2nd line but for now I wouldn’t want to put him out there.
On the other hand, the PP cannot get any worse. May as well line up Carlson on wing to see what happens.
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Green still skated the most out of anybody though.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s mostly from how much time he skated at even strength. Corvo actually got 3:19 of PP time tonight. SOB all had more PP TOI than Green and Brooksie was about even.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Hardly anything at all, really. Jerred Smithson and Francis Bouillon started games for Nashville this year. No real rhyme or reason to it.
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by Chris Burton on Apr 24, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Starts generally don’t. But it seems that when our first line guys are announced as the starters, it’s with our top D-pairing. When our 2nd line guys are the starters, it’s usually with the second pairing. And the third line with the third pairing.
But our D-pairings generally rotate (or are otherwise assigned) to be with all the lines throughout the game.
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Disappointing B-Mo
Doesn’t it seem like ever since the pretty between-the-legs goal, B-Mo has done next-to-nothing? When he skated in all alone, why did he go for such a simple shot? Halak gobbled that up. Give me a deke, or SOMETHING. He was behind all the Habs D, if I’m not mistaken, and he goes for that pathetic move.
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I do recall commenting on this last time. I feel like Lady Luck will provide with one of those gimme rebound goals.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope it’s Ovechwin then…so if BMo doesn’t score, Sloan does or something. I was praying we’d somehow push it to OT and Game Over would reappear to make all the haters eat it.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Although…I seriously hope ShaMo is healthy so Sloan can return to the press box. Sorry OW :(
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I kinda do too.
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He can still skate during warmups! And he will always be number one in our hearts!
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If he lands a key hip check and gets even a helper I’ll be a believer again.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
We’ll see!
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My dad did take a picture of him for me during warm-ups, but messed up when trying to save it to his phone. Oh well. He tried.
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His awesomeness was too much for the picture to be recorded.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions
And now I’m out of this conversation.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Why? Brooks Laich’s awesomeness is for everyone, kinda like hockey.
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Joking about someone being too awesome for the camera to work when it’s a known running joke is one thing…once the discussion turns to comparing the different guys on the team, then you girls are on your own.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Like Terp said, that was in no way meant to be puckbunny-ish, just pointing out what a badassmofo Laich is.
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I’ll bite, I just want him to be a badassmofo like Knuble again this series.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Let him go in the offseason?
After starting off the season hot, he hasn’t been the center acquisition we had hoped. He was scoring goals on his son in January, for crying out loud, and he joked it was to get the confidence up.
This is is entirely the reason we had to get Belanger. It’s not like we have any alternative to him now, either. Should we let him walk and go for someone like Marleau? Actually, we have no chance at him with our cap situation…
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone vote for Perreault to be our second line center for next season? My hand is raised.
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Mine is, and I’ll raise my other one for Jordan who we all know would love it.
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Why is it that Perrault has produced every time he’s played, yet he’s sent back down quickly? Is he a liability as an all-round player? Don’t know enough about him
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He did tail off at the end of his longer stretch up with the team earlier in the season. In small doses he’s been terrific. Some more time to develop the consistency and maybe a little more strength will help tons.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Hershey’s needs < Caps’ needs
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by wickedwitch on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I hope they don’t actually think that way, because we’re doomed, otherwise.
by DrinkingPartner on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Help at center is coming. Some guys have already done it in small doses.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions
As in MP? Or Mackan in future years?
Is our propensity to making Swedish Centers as our 1st draft pick every year an indication that we should have cloned Nick Backstrom?
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Every hockey team should clone Backstrom. Seriously. MP I think could help as a 3rd line center next year. Maybe. Mackan down the road for sure as well. I can always hope Steckel comes around and finds his game again as well. Gordo’s surge has been a pleasant surprise in that I had been writing him off as not necessary especially with that wonky back.
Wonky. Totally used it just cause it sounds awesome.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, think I’d prefer MP on the 2nd line. Really love our 3rd line when it is clicking with Chimera/Belanger/Fehr. Speed and a healthy dose of forecheck tires out the opposition. This isn’t MP’s game. Matty is a playmaker, and just doesn’t have the physical attributes to be a grinder. Besides, it would be nice to actually have a center who can set up Semin, without having to be on a line with Nick and Ovechkin.
by HateOffSeason on Apr 25, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
I randomly saw Scott Walker with Kellobellow during the first intermission. We had club level passes and we were walking up the Metro Exit steps back to the 400s when he was walking down. He even said Hi to us. Awesome guy. Guess he wanted to take an early train home.
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Apparently Halak got the last laugh...
…regarding the “hand shaking” comment from Ovie during Game 2 because he played better tonight. Interesting theory Burnside. Now if he gives up 6 on Monday what then? We get the final last laugh?
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Saying that Halak has the last laugh is premature. Wait until the series is over to make that assessment.
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He wrote it. I found it odd, especially since Ovechkin scored again.
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by Davethecapsfan on Apr 24, 2010 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as the Habs don’t score 7…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Apr 24, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Night all, recharge for more armchair coaching tomorrow.
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Goodnight! Better luck next time I suppose :/
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Catch (him) 22!
While we’re calling BS: 22’s backcheck on the first Canadiens goal was pathetic. Knuble went into a full glide at the center line, and literally didn’t move his feet again until the primary assist was en route. If he keeps skating, Caps make a transition above the circle; if he, um, conserves energy (like a cagey veteran?), Cammalleri gets a good shot on in goal.
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by D'ohboy on Apr 24, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
FYI, don’t look at the answers.com definition, it’s actually incorrect. The wikipedia entry on checking terminology looked pretty accurate at first glance though.
Sorry for the snark, I just hear “forechecking” and “backchecking” get thrown around a lot and used incorrectly. :)
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I could shoot pucks from where I sit and have as much chance of scoring as Fleischmann in this series.
And I have a lousy shot.
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The first line was on the ice for both of the Habs’ goals. That is not acceptable.
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If practice is optional, any idea how many guys might actually show up? I don’t care all that much, but I’ve got schpilkies (restless), and I’m looking to get out and do something that doesn’t cost me any money. I might head off to Ballston now anyway.
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Maybe we should assign the following people to the next power play:
Boyd Gordon, Matt Bradley, Jason Chimera, John Carlson, Tom Poti.
(Hey our 4th line can’t do any worse.)
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What type of contribution is this, seriously?
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by Bald Pollack on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Observations from Section 421
I was livid last night when I left the arena, got on the Metro, got in the car, drove home… I couldn’t write this last night. After getting some sleep, I can write now and mention a few things.
1) First of all, the Caps are still up 3-2 in the series. I’d rather be up 3-2 than down 3-2. Both Boston and Pitt had a chance to close out their 3-1 leads and didn’t. The west has 3 series also at 3-2, with one that will go 3-2 later.
2) Semin has not been playing well, but his coming back to stop a breakaway when the Caps had the power play was great hustle and great effort. More of that please, Sasha.
3) How do four guys who are trained to see stuff on the rink not see Eric Belanger getting maimed by a stick??? Inexcusable.
4) The first 10 minutes I was wondering why the Caps recruited the Atlanta Thrashers to skate in their place.
5) Funny moment of the night. Between periods, they show a “Forces of Hockey” segment. Professor Lou says, “Semin has a shooting angle of 0.5%, but he’s not thinking about angles.” The guy next to me, “Lou’s right, who knows what Semin is thinking at any time….”
6) The Caps needed to put more pressure on Halak like they did in the second. If they do that in the third period last night, they’re getting ready for the Flyers instead of packing to go to Montreal.
7) Think the boys are looking forward to practice today? I bet not…
8) Great job by Caps fans, applauding the Canadian Anthem loudly as it was sung… take that Montreal.
Well, there’s still time to close this out… let’s hope they can get it done Monday…
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From Hockeybuzz.com: “For starters, Coach Martin has Travis Moen on the second line with Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta and it paid dividends with Moen scoring his first of the playoffs and what would be the eventual game winner. In addition, he shortened his bench in the third period, when the Caps were pressing for the tie. Not only did he sit Marc-Andre Bergeron and Roman Hamrlik, but he shortened his forwards to three lines. This is something that Martin has been reticent to do very much this year but which is necessary at certain times in a game.”
by vzotsky on Apr 24, 2010 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Ho-lee shit. Belangeris at Kettler and said he lost SEVEN teeth last night.
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Blame Varly
IMO, the last penalty is squarely on Varly. Refs will give teams some wide lattitude on changes when a goalie is being pulled. rarely do they adhere to the 5’ from the bench rule. therefore the guy who is coming on the ice will typically jump on much quicker than if it were a regular line change. also, varly is skating towards the bench and should be able to see that his replacement is on the ice. he should know that one he gets past the face off dots, he needs to get to the bench.
to be fair to varly, he hasnt had a lot of practice on being pulled for an extra attacker. i know bruce is trying to protect him, but thats on varly.
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I blame the previous 59 minutes of craptastic play, personally.
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by EmilyB on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Refs will give teams some wide lattitude on changes when a goalie is being pulled. rarely do they adhere to the 5’ from the bench rule.
This rule actually changed a couple years ago. According to the new rules, there is now ZERO leeway on replacing the goaltender – he’s got to be off the ice entirely before you can get on.
(One of you rules geeks can feel free to correct me if any of that’s incorrect.)
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by D'ohboy on Apr 24, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leaving the bench early is premature substitutions and is not a penalty just a stoppage in play. When varly stopped and skated back to the crease that’s when it became a penalty.
Although the rule is 5’, the refs do give some leeway still.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 24, 2010 1:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m not going to say Varlamov played that all that well, but the majority of the blame has to be on Fehr. You know exactly who you’re coming on for, you watch them come to bench and go out.
He’s trying to get into the play. Had varly not stopped and gone back it would not have been a penalty. I really think it’s the goalies responsibilty to make the decision and stick with it. Maybe fehr should have waited a bit longer before jumping out but he also is trying to get in to the play and can’t anticipate that varly was going to double back. Eh, water under the bridge now.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Apr 24, 2010 1:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Me and my superstitions...
I wore a brand-spanking new Caps T-shirt all day for yesterday’s game (the bright red drew some attention and I got some thumbs-ups as well as some glares). Watching the game in my dorm last night, superstitious thoughts crept into my head as we went down 2-0. I’m thinking I should stuff away the T-shirt for Monday’s game?
by Caps-Preds Fan on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT reply actions
I adhered to my superstitions faithfully but to no avail
I wore my signed Knuble t-shirt underneath my Backstrom jersey; my son in his Ovechkin jersey, and my husband in his signed Knuble jersey. We’ve been wearing this first line combo for months now. So the loss last night wasn’t due to our line! I hate my superstitions. Especially when they fail me.
by capsyoungguns on Apr 24, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Recap, D
A few additional thoughts:
- Green might have been somewhat invisible, but he was on the ice for 25 minutes and only one goal against, which wasn’t entirely his fault. Not a great night by any stretch of the imagination, but not a reason for rending of garments and gnashing of teeth.
- JC Superstar is an absolute stud. I’m sure that when BB paired him with Poti, it was with the thought that the veteran could cover for the rookie’s exuberance. Instead, Carlson has vastly improved Poti’s play, particularly on the PK. I’m not sure if this is all JC, or if some of this is Poti simplifying his game (and therefore playing better).
- Speaking of Poti playing better – I hammer on him when he’s being mediocre, such as during game 1. Since then, however, he’s played quite well and his improvement (along with Gordo replacing Steckel) has totally transformed our PK. Dare I say I almost don’t have that gnawing sense of fear anymore when we’re a man down? I even saw us try to stand MTL up at the blue line on a couple occasions and force the dump-in, then we even out-manned the puck on the boards. Good stuff.
- Sloan can’t get a jersey on Monday. Please get well soon ShaMo. (I can’t believe I just typed that.)
- I said before the series that Montreal’s speedy little forwards would likely make some of our slower D look foolish in this series. As if on cue, Jeff Schultz has been a bit of a disappointment, and his ice time has been falling accordingly. If we advance, look for his play and his ice time to increase against Philly.
- This team simply is not willing to do what’s necessary to beat the trap. Way too often, the Caps tried to carry the puck in, only to run straight into the trap. From there, they either turned the puck over, pulled back to regroup, or dumped the puck in, but entirely without speed. Only once did I see a defenseman or center make the right play, and it was Corvo. Carry the puck over the red line until the trap collapses on you, then send it hard around or softly into the opposite corner so that the far side winger can beat his check to the puck. Outman the puck on the boards and set up as usual. Repeat. It’s ugly, but effective.
- After last year’s playoffs (as well as watching Hershey in their Calder Cup run), I said that I’d rather the team commit to trying out Chris Bourque than watch another year of Flash. I took a lot of flak for that, as well as my subsequent anger at the team’s loss of Bourque to Pittsburgh on waivers. That flak got denser after Flash came out hot to start the year. I thought to myself, “just wait, he’ll disappear – and at the worst possible time, too.” GMGM should have sold high on Flash at the deadline (I know, I said we ought to keep Flash over Fehr at the deadline, but that was before we picked up Belanger to give us more center depth). I think Bourque has the potential to be Scotty Walker with better hands. Given the opportunity, I think he could easily put up a 15/25/40 line on this team, while providing grit and hustle and drawing a bunch of penalties. Regardless, I know that he wouldn’t completely disappear if he wasn’t scoring – he’d be flying around the ice hitting everything that moves.
-Belanger doesn’t seem to be a good fit on the 2nd line, and BMo has underwhelmed thus far. If BB doesn’t want to make drastic changes, I’d like to see him stick with Semin/BMo/Laich. If he really wants to shake the team up, however, I wouldn’t mind seeing them call up Perreault from Hershey. The kid has been an offensive sparkplug for this team every time he’s been called up, and we could sure use a spark on the PP. Furthermore, if there’s ever a matchup where his lack of size won’t be exposed – it’s against Montreal. Plus, you have to imagine that he’d be extra motivated to play in Montreal, right? (For all those worried about what this would do to Hershey – the Bears are much deeper up front than they are on the backline. I could see us calling up MP, but not Alzner for that reason.)
- Semin really needs to break the dam, and to that end I wouldn’t mind seeing Bruce start the first period with the SOB line in hopes of getting a quick goal. The only problem with that plan is that it maximizes Markov’s effectiveness. Given how good Gill has played against our top players, though, I’m not sure that’s an overriding concern.
- Both Semin and Ovie need to quit trying to go outside-inside one-on-one against Montreal’s defense – it’s simply not working, nor are 99% of the attempts to use the opposing defensemen as screens. Instead, they need to start carrying the puck wide and around behind the net. The first-order effect of this will be to sustain better offensive-zone pressure and force the Montreal defense to collapse down low – thereby opening up passing lanes back to the points, or to the slot. It’s no surprise that many of our goals and best offensive chances have come from these types of plays. The second-order effect will be to force Montreal’s defensemen to cheat to the outside of the ice to try to shut this play down which, in turn, will re-open the outside-inside move that Ovie and Sasha both love. You’ve got to give it up to get it back boys.
- Sorry for the James A. Michener bullets.
- Oh, and for the love of all that is holy, BENCH FLASH! FREE SCOTTY WALKER!!!
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by D'ohboy on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
the Bears are much deeper up front than they are on the backline. I could see us calling up MP, but not Alzner for that reason.
P-Mac is week-to-week with a bad shoulder.
Interestingly, the Bears had the same problems with Bridgeport’s trap that the Caps are experiencing with Montreal’s – and they are expecting Albany to trap too.
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Bet Matty gets the call – after the Bears game tonight:
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A team spokesman said Eric Belanger will have more dental surgery today. BB hopes he can play Monday.
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but not a reason for rending of garments and gnashing of teeth.
Disagree, if I had seen Green playing fucking terrible, and just getting out matched, I would have been ok.
But he wasn’t working.
He was losing battles in the boards, he panicked with the puck, all plekanec or gionta needed to do was skate by him and he got knocked off the puck.
His head wasn’t in the game at that is just not acceptable.
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He played 25 minutes, the most of any Caps player, and was only on the ice for 1 goal against. It wasn’t spectacular, and it certainly wasn’t up to the standard that he has established for himself, but I think it’s a bit of a stretch to call that “fucking terrible.” Sloan was fucking terrible. Fleischmann was fucking terrible.
I felt worse about his game immediately afterward, but in my mind his greatest failing was in not kick-starting the offense and helping to break the trap. Ultimately, however, the blame for that falls on the team as a whole and the coaches, not just one guy.
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Oops. Re-reading your comment I see that you didn’t call him “fucking terrible.” My bad.
The stained horizon
Dark rein and rider
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Frankly, I don’t have any interest in seeing Fleischmann in a Caps uniform again. He’s a guy who you watch and say, ‘Man, he’s going to struggle in the playoffs’, and the production has matched the scouting report. Guys who had no value in the playoffs have no value to the Capitals.
Here’s hoping McPhee deals him for a pick or a Jason Chimera type.
by David Getz on Apr 24, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Wait a sec...
You guys have a player whose last name is Gordon and yet he’s not the guy you nickname “Flash”? WTF! Here I was thinking, what the hell is wrong with Boyd Gordon? He’s doing exactly what the team requires. Tomas Fleischmann I definitely can see your frustration on.
Actually, me and my roommate were discussing how Boudreau might not be making the right calls on player selection… you look at Bylsma in Pittsburgh (boo, hiss) benching one of Satan or Sykora last year in the playoffs (never playing both), and this year he’s benching Fedotenko after the acquisition of Ponikarovsky. He knows how many of each type of players he needs for his system to work. Scott Walker is not a better player than Fleischmann, of that there is no doubt. But his 7-8 minutes of play could be more valuable than Fleischmann at 12-14. Some guys are more effective at shorter minute levels and spot roles than others. That’s not a knock on Fleischmann… he probably needs to be top 6 to be effective, just like a Sykora or Fedotenko for Pittsburgh. But it’s impossible to put Fleischmann in that role unless there are injuries.
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Small correction: Flash is in a top-6 role now. He’s just not playing like it. Last couple of seasons he has a hot start, we think he’s gotten over the hump, and BAM! he hits the wall and is ineffective the rest of the way.
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, he’s 7th in icetime right now amongst Caps forwards. He is playing more than Fehr, though that’s hard to believe. Belanger is the 6th most utilized forward, 5th most at ES (Ovie, Backstrom, Semin, Knuble, Belanger, Laich). 5 on 5 Fleischmann is a 4th liner (10th in ice time). Fleischmann is being utilized as a PP specialist in the playoffs so far.
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I was going by line combos, not TOI. I guess the way you put it he is a 4th liner, but one playing on the second line.
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by red army line on Apr 24, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Game six, in all likelihood, isn’t going to be an easy one. The Habs are still alive, they have the luxury of playing without any pressure, and they’re going to have more than 22,000 fans ready to try and will them to victory.
In short, expect them to come out strong. And expect to find out whether the Caps learned anything tonight.
Gotta nitpick here. Capacity at the Bell Centre is 21,273, not more than 22,000. And they never sell more than that many tickets, unlike say the United Centre in Chicago.
Also, the Habs have a terrible record at home in the playoffs historically at the Molson/Bell. With going 0-2 in this series, the historical record for the Habs is now 12-22 in the postseason since moving to the new rink in 1996. They’ve also been eliminated at home every year except 1997, and have only won three elimination games at home (1997 vs. New Jersey down 3-0 in triple OT, and 2004 vs. Boston, en route to the franchise’s only 3-1 comeback, plus Game 7 vs. Boston in 2008). Maybe that 2004 situation is what us Habs fans can take comfort in, but the Bell Centre has been horrid to this team and the scene of a lot of disappointment.
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been eliminated at home every year except 1997, and have only won three elimination games at home
So, you’re saying they’re due.
Hey let's go, today is going to be our night
by redlineblue on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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