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Nicklas Backstrom: Selke Candidate?

In the mind of at least one person whose opinion on the subject matters insofar as official recognition is concerned, Nicklas Backstrom was the best defensive forward in hockey in 2008-09; that is to say that one voter for the Frank J. Selke Trophy, given annually "to the forward who best excels in the defensive aspects of the game," gave his first-place vote to the Caps pivot.

Backstrom didn't receive another vote of any kind (second- through fifth-place), and finished tied for 28th in the polling. This time around, however, you can expect the young Swede to garner significantly more attention and finish much higher, and with good reason: in just his third season in the League, Nicklas Backstrom has established himself as one of the game's premiere two-way forwards.

As a point of reference, let's compare Backstrom's 2009-10 numbers to last year's top-five finishers in Selke voting:


Player+/-Team GAA5-on-5 GAON/605-on-5 QC4-on-5 GAON/604-on-5 QCSH TOI/GP
Nicklas Backstrom 33 2.75 2.18 0.053 7.02 -0.366 1:04
Pavel Datsyuk 34 2.93 2.30 0.038 7.35 -1.522 1:36
Mike Richards 22 2.83 2.35 0.048 5.34 -2.502 3:12
Ryan Kesler 8 2.60 2.35 0.039 6.79 -2.902 3:19
Henrik Zetterberg 13 2.93 2.57 0.058 6.14 -1.329 1:49
Mikko Koivu 2 2.40 2.41 0.079 3.81 -1.635 2:43

Backstrom certainly fits in with that group; his five-on-five numbers compare favorably, but his shorthanded numbers - both in ice time and effectiveness - lag a bit behind those compiled by last year's "elite." Those PK numbers are creeping upwards, however, and with shifts like the one he had on Thursday night, that trend likely will continue (especially as Bruce Boudreau seems inclined to play one - but not both - of David Steckel and Boyd Gordon on a nightly basis).

Throw in the fact that Backstrom is 11th among NHL forwards in blocked shots, has a 1:1 giveaway-to-takeaway ratio playing in an up-tempo offense and has even gotten his faceoff percentage up to just about 50%, and that he's near the top of the League in scoring (a factor that has somehow crept into Selke consideration) and it's likely that Nicklas Backstrom is a name that will be on the ballot of more than one Selke voter this time around... with good reason.

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Interesting! I’d be in favor of this. ;-) Of course, my vote means little in the grand scheme of things, but that would be so COOL!

I need a snappy signature...

by IRockTheRed on Mar 8, 2010 2:03 PM EST reply actions  

Not to bring up unwanted comparisons between superstars, but how does Backstrom’s numbers look compared to one Sidney Alphonse Crosby? Afterall Nicky and Sidney play the same position.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

quickly, off the top of my head, Nick leads in assists,points and Plus/minus, while Sid has more goals and a better FO%.

Nick was the better center at the Olympics, IMO.

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, Sid kills him in the dot – 56.6% to 49.8%.

Nick plays 1:04 on the PK per game, Sid 0:53.

At 5-on-5, Nick has a much better GAON/60 (Sid’s is 3.09) against nearly identical competition.

At 4-on-5, Sid’s got the better GAON/60, an impressive 4.14.

Nick’s defensive GVT is 2.8. Sid’s is 2.9.

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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I love numbers. Maybe too much.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I love his 1:1 GA/TA given our style.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Such a horribly unreliable stat overall, but yeah.

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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Just in observation though, I find myself saying “he never losses the puck”, more than a few times a week.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes. Very strong on the puck, very good puck possession skills. Good takeaway skills, too.

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by fat_daddyo on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Good takeaway skills

Some of 19’s takeaways are so precise in timing and execution that they look…scripted. As though he knows you’re almost done with the puck anyway, and raps your stick as an agreed-upon signal that it’s NickyTime.
Love it.

Kurtis meet Lars.

by redlineblue on Mar 8, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Backstrom is just too awesome. It will be nice to see him contractually sewn to the Caps for a long time.

ah-VEECH-kin

by renhoak on Mar 8, 2010 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Mean Lars is Mean.

Backstrom is on the attack regardless of which team has the puck. Watch the routes he chosses for backcheck, especially if the odds are roughly even: he whittles down passing lanes and sets rolling picks all the way up the ice, shift after shift. I get that he’s not the inventor, but it’s as consistent and artful as the rest of his game—and that’s saying something!
Hope he stays here a long, long time.

Kurtis meet Lars.

by redlineblue on Mar 8, 2010 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

And he’s so sneaky about it. You have to choose to watch him to catch most of that. AO is such an excellent wingman for Backis because he draws all the attention away while Lars goes to work. Then Gramps sets up in the office and it’s a thing of beauty.

/those were the days

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by EmilyB on Mar 8, 2010 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I said it half in jest in the gameday thread but it’s funny to see the numbers actually back it up.

by sydtron on Mar 8, 2010 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

Damn, Koivu is a stud.

Backstrom’s GA/60 on the PK isn’t good enough to get him to the top spot in the Selke, but I could definitely get behind a Top 3 finish for him. Particularly given is QualComp numbers.

His ES GAON/60 is an outstanding number.

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by fat_daddyo on Mar 8, 2010 2:32 PM EST reply actions  

Can we wait

until after his contract is extended before we talk about winning big awards. for now, i’m content to say he’s just “ok” and lacks an “nhl body”…and he needs a haircut.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Lacks an NHL body. lolololololololololol. Just ask Tyler Sloan, as he tapes his hips back together for the eighth consecutive day.

Tho I do agree on the haircut.

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by EmilyB on Mar 8, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That kid needs a makeover.

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by Ovechwin on Mar 8, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I respectfully disagree.

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by jordanDC on Mar 8, 2010 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah, that was a comment made by someone (i think an SI writer). said he lacks an nhl body or something similar. i’ve not seen him get knocked off too many pucks so dont know what that guys was watching. dare i say that backs has great hockey haunches?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions  

hockey haunches

So tired of this phrase!

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Mar 8, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

big fat skaters ass doesnt sound as good.

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I prefer more adjectives.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Lower body strength? Balance?

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by jordanDC on Mar 8, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Solid center of gravity due to his hockey haunches.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Built like a bowling pin. Or, Weebles wobble but they don’t fall down.

ah-VEECH-kin

by renhoak on Mar 8, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec’d. Hush, hush and on the QT for all things Nicky B until the man is locked up for eternity.

erskine has scored...now i can die in peace

by souldrummer on Mar 8, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Nooooooo! Don’t cut the hair. He just needs to tousle it instead of slicking it back; let the inner Viking out.

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Mar 8, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Should he be? Yes.

Will he be? No way. To much hype for those other guys as ‘perennial’ Selke candidates.

Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.

by macvechkin on Mar 8, 2010 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

Coincidnece of not, since 2000 eight of nine Selke winners had something in their resume that Backstrom does not (yet) have. A Stanley Cup.

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Mar 8, 2010 2:45 PM EST reply actions  

The Selke is usually very much a reputation award rather than the result of any in-depth analysis. The Norris tends to be as well (though Nick Lidstrom took the need for analysis out of the equation for a number of years). Those two more than others, I think.

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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Precisement. The Golden Glove of hockey.

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by fat_daddyo on Mar 8, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is it a “golden glove,” but only a “silver bat?”

If you've read this far...seek help.

by ThePeerless on Mar 8, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

And a “platinum syringe?”

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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

It is. Which is why Nick needs to get into the conversation now and hopefully in 2-3-4 years it will be his. And Datsyuk just had two highlight reel pickpockets (v Nashville and Chicago) that pretty much assure him of winning again this year.

by Reckless on Mar 8, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Chicken or the egg?

Those guys happened to have won the Cup before their Selke, and they are the kind of player that tremendously helps their team, elevating the play of others around them on both sides of the ice. No coincidence that winning and Selke’s go hand in hand.

But having not won the cup certainly doesn’t preclude Lars from taking home some bling.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Mar 8, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

has a selke winner ever also been top 5 in points, which nicky is right now?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Datsuyk won it last year and was 4th in points.

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions  

so its been almost a year…

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 2:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

and let me amend this to say Datsuyk also win in 2008 and was 4th in points that season as well. I’m looking up a couple of others I suspect might have finished top 5

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Sergei Fedorov won the Selke in 1993-1994, the year he was second in scoring, and won the Hart and Pearson.

here’s a list of Selke winners is anyone wants to dig deeper.

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Which goes to show you that if Detroit didn’t play him in a defensive role so often, the guy would have obliterated so many records.

by sydtron on Mar 8, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

oh, I know! No wonder he’s still bitter about how Scotty Bowman handled him. And even though he had lost several steps by the time he arrived here, it was clear it was the happiest he’s ever been playing professional hockey.

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I really liked the fella who won it for the 1983-84 season. Great PKer along with another guy whose name is used by an esteemed member of the commentariat.

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by Carl Putnam on Mar 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Going off of memory…Haworth?

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by fat_daddyo on Mar 8, 2010 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure which one you one you are referring to, but it doesn’t matter as Alan Haworth is neither of them.

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by Carl Putnam on Mar 8, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions  

ok, any non-russians won the selke and been top 5 in points?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 8, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Win the Stanley Cup. Issue resolved.

by JSchon on Mar 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Great post. It’s too bad that Lars doesn’t get more minutes on the PP, as being joined at the hip with Ovie makes it tough to get him out there. All things being equal, you’d have to say he’s the best PK’er on the team, if you don’t consider distributing his minutes elsewhere.

by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Mar 8, 2010 2:53 PM EST reply actions  

Here’s hoping that Nick waits another year to win the Selke. That will only make his contract that much more expensive come the off season.

we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.

by Sct112 on Mar 8, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, let him win the Conn Smythe this year.

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by jordanDC on Mar 8, 2010 3:42 PM EST up reply actions  

ha.

we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.

by Sct112 on Mar 8, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

No way. Mike Green is pissed and he’s about to go all Brian Leetch, 1994 vintage, on the league.

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by Rob Parker on Mar 8, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re my muse.

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by J.P. on Mar 8, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Any word on whether the guy that voted for Backstrom last year is the same guy that voted for Viktor Kozlov a couple years back?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Mar 8, 2010 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

Someone voted Viktor Kozlov for Selke?

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by Chris Burton on Mar 8, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

someone clearly was smoking crack. Remember, kids, Crack is Whack!

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by RedBirdie on Mar 8, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions  

His plus/minus was awesome that year!

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by Rob Parker on Mar 8, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions  

and that he’s near the top of the League in scoring (a factor that has somehow crept into Selke consideration)

Though the trophy was created for Bob Gainey, who averaged around 40 pts a year, Bobby Clarke and Troy Murray were both early winners who averaged over 1 PPG. So, it’s not really a new thing. Basically, there’s not many players who can be consistently great offensive forces while taking care of business in their own end, so it makes sense that anyone who fits both those criteria gets consideration.

by katzistan on Mar 8, 2010 5:19 PM EST reply actions  

Steve Kasper also won the trophy in 82 with a -18. How’d that happen???

by katzistan on Mar 8, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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