Wednesday Caps Clips: A Disturbing Trend
by J.P. on Mar 31, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
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- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss from us, the WaPo (blog, gamer, blog, blog), Vogs, Joe B., DCEx, Ed Frankovic, Peerless, OFB, A Capital Offense, RMNB, Caps Snaps (pics), Caps In Pics and Puckhead.
- Notes from yesterday's practice. [CI]
- Bruce Boudreau wants his superstar to get back on track. [Corey Masisak]
- Part of the reason Jose Theodore is likely to be the Caps' number one netminder come playoff time is his strong late-game performances relative to his competition (note: this was written before last night's game). Yes, but... how about those early-game moments? [Dump n' Chase]
- This Caps team: historically good? [DC Landing Strip]
- NBC picks Caps/Bruins for its April11 nationally televised game (which means a noon start time). Boo. [PHT]
- Eric Fehr gets some love for producing so much in so little ice time. [FanHouse]
- Kevin Paul Dupont thinks the Caps should want to avoid Boston in the first round. [NBC]
- Nicklas Backstrom rising in Campbellnomics. Yawn. [The Hockey News]
- Alex Ovechkin and Backstrom continue to be quite valuable. [Puck Prospectus]
- Mike Green, a pretty blonde... and Miss Virginia. [Capitals (video)]
- Lots of good faceoff-related stuff over at BtN, including an Adam Oates sighting. [BtN]
- Sergei Gonchar back in D.C. No thank you. [PHT]
- Caps OT, Episode 3. [CSN Washington]
- Cody Eakin earns a pink helmet in his practice debut with the Bears. [PennLive]
- A guide to the Bears and the playoffs ahead. [RtR]
- A look at the Caps' top Euro prospects. [Hockey's Future]
- Finally, happy 50th birthday to Jim McTaggart and happy 57th to Gord Lane.
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So maybe what we need to do is have Varly take the first two periods (since that’s where he’s been best) and have Theo take the third period (since that’s when he usually shuts things down).
Anybody know if there’s any rules against putting a goalie back on the ice after he’s been pulled?
In the Caps’ win in Dec 2008 that was known as “The Miracle on 33rd Street” or “The Miracle at MSG”, Theodore was off to a horrible start and the Caps went down 4-0 against the Rangers. So Theodore was pulled and replaced with Johnson. Except that Johnson was both sick and injured that day. So, when Period 3 rolled around, Theo was back in goal. Caps went on to tie that game. It went to OT. And then Shaone Morrisonn had the game winning goal — on his 26th birthday.
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I probably forgot the exact period but the sequence of events did go:
1) Theo gives up lots of early goals and gets pulled
2) Johnson comes into game
3) Johnson is too ill and injured to continue
4) Theo comes back in game and does well
5) Caps tie in 3rd period and then win in OT.
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flu, compounded by the chronic hip injury. Here is Tarik’s blog post following the game.
here’s the pre-game; how absurd was the Caps injury situation last season? Going into that game, the Caps had just called up their 33rd player.
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I fell asleep watching that one last night! Gotta love it.
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Also watching the parts I missed right now, wow Giroux cannot score on breakaways, jesus.
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I recall Tim Thomas getting pulled in a game against the Caps in March 2008, Auld coming in, and then Thomas coming back later in the game. No matter, I think the final score was 10-3 Caps. Ovie had a hattrick in the 1st period, iirc.
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Back when I could get a lower-level seat for $25..
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Yeah, student rush nights were money.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
There was a nice buffer period when the Caps had turned the corner and were playing great hockey, but the general public hadn’t caught on yet and attendance was low enough to get good tickets at a bargain. That time is long gone though.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I haven’t been able to afford to go to any games this season, and I only got to a few last season. It’s a bummer.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
10-2. That was a great game. The only time I ever sat in the lower level.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
That was the 10-2 game where Chara fought Brashear, and Cherry warned the Caps “the hockey gods will get you!!” because they “ran up the score”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
That was my college roommate’s first Caps game. Needless to say, he bought a jersey after the game and hasn’t looked back since.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
some friends got a group together so we could celebrate my birthday at that game. Every one of them even the “I’m only going because you’re my friend” people are now all completely hooked on the Caps. The Caps even let us buy the birthday package they had for the kiddies, so we all got pennants and hot dogs and kiddie sodas!
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I took my sister to that game. It was her first Caps game at VC. She had only seen them in Philly against the Flyers. (Crazy place to see your first game, huh?)
That game has a permanent place in my heart. It’s one of my favorite ever. It began the bonding process between me and my sister. Sounds silly, but we never got along until we started going to Caps games together.
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stayed home, one of the few games I missed in Feb-April of that season, before I had officially become a STH. I decided I was too tired to drive to DC haha. I was pretty mad at myself for a couple days
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
they’ve been sent to the printers….that much i know
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
On Gonchar’s return to the Caps. If he’s good at PK, sign him up. Otherwise, he’d be a bit on the old and expensive side.
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Gonch is aging for sure. I’m not sure it’s a safe assumption he’s going to be offered as much as his current salary next year, wherever he signs. If he makes less than now, like in the $4.5M range, he might be a decent fit. He was my favorite Cap when he was here though.
Nyet. He’s gotten old, slow, and is making poor decisions on the ice. I want him back like I want Brenden Witt back.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Old, slow and fragile, too.
He’ll get an NHL offer somewhere, if he wants to stay in the league. But for big money, he’s going to have to go to the K, I would think (unless he Scuderi’s it in the playoffs, perhaps).
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How do you think he’d be as a 3rd pairing D? I think he’d be okay, but I’d rather give roster spots to 52-55-27-74-3-23 or something like that.
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by red army line on Mar 31, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Mildly random question (curiosity-based) – with all of the recaps that I link to on “day afters,” which do you read and enjoy the most? Does the order in which I link to them ever make a difference? Do you just go for the ones you know you like, or do you click ’em all?
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Well, the Vogs/Joe B./WaPo ones would seem to be prerequisites, but past that, I go for the ones I like, which is two thirds of that group.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Outside of mainstream sources (this included), I’m a little reluctant to go to most blogging sites right now, but that’s only due to my recent virus history. And I spend too much time here as it is. But Peerless is always a must read.
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which do you read and enjoy the most?
Frankovic and Peerless.
Does the order in which I link to them ever make a difference?
Not at all. I am immune to that type of product placement… (looks at right side bar) oh look there is a mattress sale, any size, one low price.
Do you just go for the ones you know you like, or do you click ’em all?
Usually the ones I like, but most of the time the local Japers’ recap is enough to satisfy me. Personally, I find the other links much more interesting than game recaps.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Order makes no difference.
I read Peerless, Frankovic and the Rink recaps.
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I usually click on the Peerless links. That’s about it (still pretty good for a Pens fan, I s’pose).
That is unless I want to read something about Sidney Crosby. In that case, I click on the DC Sports Bog links to see what Steinberg has to say. That usually gets me my daily Crosby fix.
Juuuuust kidding.
you must be having withdrawal with Steinz on vacation!
o/t: did you see Leyland has spoken and proclaimed Strasburg the real deal?
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Pretty much just read peerless, opposition blogs if it’s a satisfying win or the penguins.
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I read Peerless sometimes. I’m more into game previews than recaps though since I have a pretty good handle on how I feel about a game. (Unless I get a bit too inebriated at a game, then I refresh Japers’ about 100 times from 10:00pm till it’s up)
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by zephyr on Mar 31, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The recaps that lead off the links are great for what they are, but I rarely glean much insight from them, and so they normally get skipped. I’d much rather read about something that I didn’t just watch myself. Even if they happen to make 1 or 2 great points, the rest of it is just a summary. I’d love to click a recap one day and just see those few unique thoughts that they had about the game, and leave out the bulky summary. Boil it down, ya know? We all just watched the same game. If you didn’t, chances are you are not crazy enough to be surfing these tiny blogs in our cozy corner of the internet.
Aside from that, I just skim your teasers. If it looks interesting I’ll check it out. I love original analysis and data gathering of any kind (shocker!) and generally shy away from mainstream media outlets (WaPo, NHL, CSN, etc), but not categorically. They tend to have the best quotes, but the most watered down theses. Even Corey’s stuff these days… it’s good, he get’s great stuff from the team, but outside of those snippets it doesn’t do much for me. It doesn’t shake up the way I think about the Caps (like this blog does) or Hockey (like BtN or PP, does). But that’s the role he’s in, writing for the mainstream.
In any case, this is the first site I visit when I get to work as I gnosh on some breakfast. Puck Daddy second. Great stuff from both, always.
by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Mar 31, 2010 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions
If I have time, I will quickly scan most of them to get the gist, see what issues they focus on for teh team. I usually click in your order, but sometimes not if little time, then tend toward Joe B., Ed, Peerless; I’ve usually already seen WaPo and Vogs. More likely to read through them if it seems there’s divergence of opinion about some things. I appreciate your links and the fact they open in a new window! Thank you!
I read them all, but always the game recaps first. I love the clips, even after bad game nights.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 31, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
re: recaps
I usually don’t read any of them, but I’ve already watched the game, chatted in the recap here and cruised the web by the morning after. Once in a while I check out the opposition’s take.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I read everything by Peerless, Corey and Ed Frankovic pretty much automatically. After that, it’s pretty umcommon to find anything that hasn’t already been covered by those three plus the Rink-Recap. I’ll peruse another if its being discussed in the comments, but as a general rule those three are my go to.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Im personally a fan of WaPo’s blog, and Peerless (however i am way more inclined to read his game day prognostications – always on point) Joe B reads as just a re-cap on everything he said during the game and on capitals postgame live
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by OviWankenobi on Mar 31, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Order makes no difference to me. It depends on the day. Most days I read WaPo and JR recaps. Some days I read Peerless and Ed. The rest I read occasionally if I have time or the inclination.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Are all these OT games really a concern? While 10 of 18 going to the extra frame seems very high, I don’t think its surprising given the 3-point system. I feel like I’ve read about the spike in OT games late in the season throughout the NHL. Does anyone know where to go find that info?
You could just check NHL.com…
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Everyone is fresh in the first third of the season (more energy in the third period), no one cares in the desert that is the middle third of the season (guess we’re not seeing a lot of third period comebacks to tie games), and everyone gets desperate in the last third.
If you've read this far...seek help.
I think the last third also sees teams get more conservative to make sure they get the one point and take their chances at the second after regulation.
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Do you know of any sites where you can download a whole game? I’ve heard of something in Russia although do not have the address.
There’s a site that has hockey torrents. I don’t know the address but you can probably google it.
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Couldn’t agree more with this. I don’t care if Ovechkin is sleepy noon games mean that I can be in bed at a descent hour for once.
What can I say I’m a JP fangirl. I will follow him into the darkest and filthiest of alleys, even the comment section at Puck Daddy.
Noon hockey on NBC
It’s up against paid programming for a reason: nobody’s watching at that time despite best efforts so everybody else gave up even programming that slot.
What time is that on the west coast again?
3:00 is where NBC would put it if they want decent exposure and to not fall into primetime. 12 is where you put it to negotiate a future crappy contract showing crappy numbers to say nobody watches hockey in America.
I rarely get home to sleep before 4 am Sunday mornings. (That’s 5am EST)
Completely with you. What a shit time slot that is. I’m sure everyone west of the Mississippi is setting their alarm Sunday morning to watch.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I actually love waking up in the morning to a Caps game. . .9:00 here in LA
Last game against the Pens, i woke up late when it was like 2-0 or 3-1.
Best. Sunday. Ever
Bah-Ram-Ewe, Ovechkin will wreck you. Fear the Furious Fleece!
Very well, but you realize you are one of maybe two dozen people that feel this way. The TV contract isn’t going to be built on a handful of diehards watching in LA on Sunday mornin’.
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It also means I was bummed as all get out because our Adult League playoff’s start that day at 4:10pm. I want my umbrella dang it!
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Umbrellas? Really?
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do you really need more hand towels?
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Hand towels...
You mean wallpaper? Of course I do! The wall above my bed isn’t all red yet!
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 31, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
wall above my bed
…sometimes referred to as a ceiling.
by mechanicsville on Apr 1, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I could really use a few more of those Caps blankets (sponsored by Verizon) from a couple of years ago.
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do you have the beach towel from a couple years ago? I rock the red and my Capitals fandom at Rehoboth every summer.
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I have a towel from caps con! And an extra Brucey B bobble head.
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That’s awesome. I can’t wait.
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Damnit. And this is where splitting 2 season tickets among 3 people creates problems. Umbrella = must have.
I just hope they’re really cool CAPS umbrellas. With Weagles all over them or something.
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I hope so, but I’m guessing it’s going to have the sponsor logo. The travel mug giveaway was really cool (I like functional stuff — posters are usually of marginal value), but unless you’re a lefty, people see the Chevy Chase Bank logo when you’re using it, and you see the Caps logo.
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my travel mug was a big hit at a recent board meeting among the staff. “oooooh, a Caps mug?! Where’d you get it?”
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Speaking of functional, in 2004, I think, on fan appreciation day they gave out replica “practice jerseys”. It’s big and comfy, and I still wear it to lounge around the house in. Not terribly useful otherwise, but it’s turned out to be a great giveaway for me.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Black with the dome logo? I definitely have one of those in my closet.
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Mar 31, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey - about that Bruins comment above...
Ya might want to fix this:
Kevin Paul Dupont thinks the Caps should want Boston in the first round.
’cause what Dupont says is this:
However, I would say the Bruins, only because of the quality goaltending supplied by the likes of Tuukka Rask and Tim Thomas (the ’09 Vezina winner) would be the one the Capitals would most like to avoid.
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Added the two words that somehow didn’t make it into the initial post. Thanks.
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When did the Blackhawks sign Tyler Kennedy?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 7:58 AM EDT reply actions
A few more like him walking around, and suddenly I’m looking a whole lot better.
/Constanza’d
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think TK has been the same since Kramer snuck him out of that hospital
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions
no, its fine
they can have it if they want
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
And our buddy JBourne, via twitter: “Good to see Chicago finally prove they have NO goaltending problems. Consider the Cup locked up, right mural painters?”
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Y’all aren’t getting the meaning here…
Hog Butcher for the World,
Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat,
Player with Railroads and the Nation’s Freight Handler;
Stormy, husky, brawling,
City of the Big Shoulders…
…Laughing the stormy, husky, brawling laughter of
Youth, half-naked, sweating, proud to be Hog
Butcher, Tool Maker, Stacker of Wheat, Player with
Railroads and Freight Handler to the Nation.
Of course he looks like Arnold Ziffel.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Peerless, I get most of your literary and historical references, but this one has whooshed right past me…can you amplify, for my general edification? Thanks.
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That is correct.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
It’s sad that I know something like that because I saw the show when it was first on the air. The rest of you, I assume saw it on TVLand. If at all. As bad as TV is now, I cannot believe some of the trash I watched when I was young.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Yes, and yes. The verses come from “Chicago,” by Carl Sandburg. And Arnold Ziffel was the porcine fixture on “Green Acres.”
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, that explains it. Never a Carl Sandburg fan and I never saw Green Acres.
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I’m surprised you hadn’t come across the Sandburg poem before. It’s pretty common in high school and college English classes.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure I read it at some point.
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Didn’t anyone see “Dead Poets Society” or “With Honors?”
I too am not a bit tamed, I too am untranslatable,
I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world.
The last scud of day holds back for me,
It flings my likeness after the rest and true as any on the shadow’d wilds,
It coaxes me to the vapor and the dusk.
I depart as air, I shake my white locks at the runaway sun,
I effuse my flesh in eddies, and drift it in lacy jags.
I bequeath myself to the dirt to grow from the grass I love,
If you want me again look for me under your boot-soles.
You will hardly know who I am or what I mean,
But I shall be good health to you nevertheless,
And filter and fibre your blood.
Failing to fetch me at first keep encouraged,
Missing me one place search another,
I stop somewhere waiting for you.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Dead Poets Society = classic …. btw: (and slightly off topic, but related – sorta) I just watched the movie the “Chocolate Wars” and it kind of reminded me of hte Dead poets Society, however i still never really understood the theme or the imagery…
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by OviWankenobi on Mar 31, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Or as Joe B. would call him, Tim Kennedy.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Kesler hit on Morris
Dirty, or did Morris kind of create it by turning?
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Clean as a whistle. I mean, Morris turns to head up ice, sees Kesler coming, then turns away from the hit and puts himself in a vulnerable position.
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I agree, looks like it would’ve been a normal check into the glass if he doesn’t move. Too bad, hopefully Kesler won’t get any time.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I can kinda sorta understand the on-ice officials penalizing Kesler in real-time – the game happens fast, calls get blown, etc. I don’t like it (at all), but mistakes happen.
But if the League reviews this and sees it as deserving of supplementary discipline, they may as well take hitting out of the game entirely.
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It’s one thing to take a hit to make a play, but there is being stupid about it, too. Morris looked for Kesler and saw him and did nothing to protect himself. What, did he think Kesler was making a bee-line for the cotton candy vendor in Section 108? Kesler did not lead with his elbow, did not leave his feet, did not take aim at Morris’ back (although Morris turned into the hit). I’m with JP on this. You can’t take Kesler’s action out of the game; players have to be more accountable for their own protection in instances like this, or else hitting along the boards might as well be outlawed entirely.
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There was nothing wrong with Kesler’s form or follow through, it just looked ugly because Morris started turning right into it. Then you immediately have overreaction from his teammates.
Sometimes I don’t understand the policing yourself aspect of the NHL. A guy can get cross-checked in the mouth (Doughty on Sullivan last night) to clear him out of the crease, and no one will come to his aid, but get checked into the glass and its on.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You can shoot a man in front of the net, and that’s just hockey.
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Yeah, but you know what I mean. I’m not talking about the ref raising his arm here. The Coyotes mugged Kesler after a clean hit; but no one will defend their guy getting smacked in the face twice with a stick on purpose.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s a toss up, usually. You see a lot of scrums around the front of the net due to that kind of stuff, but just as often you don’t.
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maybe
I’m probably just in a bad mood.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
players have to be more accountable for their own protection in instances like this
That part of the rule may as well not exist. I hate agreeing with Don Cherry, but he made a point earlier this year…and this may be apples and oranges as he was talking about leg on leg hits…that players aren’t protecting themselves anymore. They’re trying to dodge the hits instead of bracing for them.
by Yoshietree on Mar 31, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Like Gonchar in the playoffs last year,. I still contend the knee on knee was gonchar’ fault, not Ovi’s. Gonch stepped out of the way at the last second leaving his knee behind. Not much Ovi could do there.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Same with Gleason earlier this year…
However, considering the size and strength of the players now, asking them to “take one for the team” can be just as dangerous. We know how hard Captain A.O. hits and can’t imagine many defensemen in the NHL signing up to take repeated blows from him.
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unfortunate decision by morris to turn to the glass. also not a direct shot in the back by kesler either. from the box score looks like he got a 5 and a gamer, which is odd because it didnt appear that morris was hurt as he got up and joined the fray and got a roughing minor to boot. i thought the game misconduct was only if a guy got hurt during the commission of the offense.
also, the neither ref rasied their hand to call a penalty until the scrum started. however, kessler was given a boarding call. if i were the canucks coach i would be a bit perturbed by that.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
boarding penalty
There is an enormous amount of judgment involved in the application of this rule by the Referees. The onus is on the player (or goalkeeper) applying the check to ensure his opponent is not in a vulnerable position and if so, he must avoid the contact. However, there is also a responsibility on the player with the puck to avoid placing himself in a dangerous and vulnerable position. This balance must be considered by the Referees when applying this rule.
clearly morris, being the player with the puck, put himself in a vulnerable position.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Ooo, I see Perreault jumped over Johansson on our prospect list according to hockeysfuture. I was wondering at what point they’d put the guy with NHL call-up experience ahead of the guy with 0 North American experience..
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Is Beagle ahead of MarJo, too?
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by J.P. on Mar 31, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Prospect development is all about North American experience. It’s not like a player can just jump straight from the SEL to the NHL and be a Calder nominee or something.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Because that’s what all of the late-round Swedish kids picked last year did, rite?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Its common knowledge Swedes don’t develop well, right?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Look at how few Swedes have panned out. I mean, there’s hundreds of elite Canadians (Boyle, Staals to name a few) and just a handful of good Swedish players. What does that tell you?!?!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Sweden should stick to exporting leggy blond models and say “to hell with hockey!”?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t mock. Make your case that MP should be above Mackan. Aside from NHL experience (and being almost 3 years older) I don’t understand why you think it’s so clear cut.
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Because he’s less of a prospect and more of a North American pro player who we generally know what to expect from at this point.
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Not really. He’ll still be Calder Trophy eligible next year. He’s not really out of prospect status. And if that’s your argument, then he shouldn’t be ahead of Mackan, he should be off the list.
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Beagle wasn’t a league MVP in one of the major junior leagues, nor is he expected to be a point-scorer in the NHL, so no.
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So being the next Simon Gamache or Joel Perreault should automatically boost one past a first-round pick not a year out from his draft?
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by J.P. on Mar 31, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Don’t forget how he then left the Q and became a big contributor on a Calder cup winning team that has a pretty good chance of repeating. And how he has been repeatedly praised from all sides when called upon for NHL work, a transition that other, higher-selected prospects have had considerably more trouble with.
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I don’t want to take anything away from what Perreault has done or continues to do either for the Caps or the Bears. But I don’t think it’s out of line for someone to view MarJo as having the higher NHL upside of the two or more value (which player, for example, do you think a rival GM would rather trade for?).
Is Perreault the Caps’ best forward prospect? I haven’t seen enough of Johansson to argue that point (and it sounds like the HF guy hasn’t either, really), but I’m positive that those who have could. Again, not a knock on Matty.
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Yeah, I get it. I’m just happy to see my guy back in town and killing it.
Plus these discussions are not boring.
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Well, yesterday MJ was on-ice for one ES goal against and had an assist on a PP goal for in a Game Seven that his team lost by one goal.
And MP scored one goal and was in the box for one goal against in a game his team lost by one goal.
So maybe they’re even.
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I sure would like to see Perreault get into Flash’s spot on the PP at least once a night.
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That was such a nice little play Rosey made last night on that tying goal. And it really only ended up that way because he got t’rown out of the faceoff.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Now that I definitely agree. Flash has been terrible lately, including invisible offensively. He needs to be sat.
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I feel like Flash is good for at least one penalty a night lately.
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Definitely, another target of mine. He used to be one of my favorites.
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I agree with that point. I believe also that Perreault should go with the caps to the post season. I cant put my finger on it, but (excuse the comparison) he is a real spark plug that plays with incredible heart much the same as a flywieght A.O and he plays with incredible intelligence in my opinion, and i think that could be of use on the playoffs
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by OviWankenobi on Mar 31, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I love MP, but the thought of him matching up against a Malkin or Carter in the playoffs scares the bejeezus out of me.
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Good thing he’d be playing only about 13 minutes and not 22+ like those guys.
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It only takes one shift, though.
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Eh, BB is pretty good about protecting the third line. I wonder how many D zone draws he was stuck out there for. Plus, as I’ve said like a million times, MP won’t be singlehandedly matched against Carter or Malkin. I don’t even think BB’s system is a strict “Center down low” system. If you watch carefully you see the C playing on the W defensively on occasion. It may be that the first man back goes low. Either way, MP has help against the bigger guys.
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No way we’re seeing Carter. He’s not back in the first round of the playoffs, and Philly doesn’t make it out of round 1 with Brian Boucher in goal.
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Point taken – if Carter’s out, the only team with enough C depth to really scare me is Pitt; everyone else is remarkably thin down the middle in the EC.
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You feel that much more comfortable with Morisson or Belanger?
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Defensively and on faceoffs? Without a doubt.
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Maybe faceoffs, but I don’t think that defense is a weakness in Perreault’s game.
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He and Chimera got caught out pretty badly on Ott’s 2nd goal last night.
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I put that one on Chimera, who stopped skating about five strides too soon. Perreault was leading the forecheck at the other end of the ice, so I’m not sure how he’s supposed to get all the way back to disrupt the play given his distance from the puck when it was turned over.
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I often wonder while reading prospect reviews have anyone reviewed the reviewer (is that a word)?
How you value different aspects of a player is obviously subjective but when you don’t have your fact straight
Johnsson registered three assists while mainly playing on the top two lines.
(He haven’t played on the top lines in a single playoff game) I have a hard time taking the analytical part of it serious.
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by Malin A on Mar 31, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I was wondering at what point they’d put the guy with NHL call-up experience ahead of the guy with 0 North American experience..
You know I’m a big MP fan but that’s way too simplistic an approach. If I frame the issue as “I wonder at what point they put the guy with Pro experience against adults as both and 18 and 19 year old, Captain of his country’s WJC team, with better size and versatility ahead of the guy who turned pro at 21 and NHL rookie at 22” it’s a different discussion. With there being such an age difference you can’t really compare their development tracks.
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Boudreau doesn’t seem to get it.
“The difference between last year and this year, is last year we were playing teams that were out of the playoffs, so our level of play came down,” he said. “I think the teams we’re playing are fighting for something. That was a hard fought game. That wasn’t a go-through-the-motions type game, let’s get the season over with. You had two teams wanting it. So I don’t think our level of play will be dropping like last year.”
Last year we played like crap down the stretch against bad teams. This year, we’re playing like crap against good teams, [like Calgary and Carolina?]. It’s different, see?
Here’s what I see: leaky goaltending, bad defensive coverage, and a horrible PK.
This smells a lot like a collapse in progress. I could be wrong, of course. But it would be nice of the coach wasn’t sugar coating it.
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Don’t know if it was covered in the recap or game threads, but could our PK forwards have possibly been any farther away from the points last night? It was a showcase of everything that’s wrong with the current penalty killing system.
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Amen. I bitched about it again in the 3rd period thread. My poor wife’s ears are probably still stinging from me screaming during the OT PK.
As I mentioned in threads yesterday, Caps PK “improvement” recently was a mirage. It was about their schedule and those team’s PP, not Caps PK.
Everyone else still think the PK won’t cost them a playoffs series?
Sorry to be so negative, but it is what it is.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
F&B and I were having this exact discussion last night.
Before the season, I thought this was the Caps’ year.
After the trade deadline, I thought all they had to do was stay healthy, get the PK in order, and not enter the playoffs in a slump.
Healthy? Negative.
PK? Shitty, as always.
Overall play? Mediocre, and exhibiting the worst tendencies of this team. Sasha = microcosm.
Conclusion? No Cup this year. Damnit.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 31, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I’ll be worried if we’re down 3-1 in the first round again. Until then they just look like a team that is coasting.
I’m semi-worried about Bruce coaching off of his gut though. I still can’t get over the 3 players he chose for the 4 on 3.
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Well, if Gordon was healthy, he’d have been there. Also, Q’s a shot blocker and Poti is faster than Schultz. I might have put Backs out inst— oh wait.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Q is a shot block on paper. I really don’t think he’s doing much blocking this season though.
if you ask me I probably still leave Steckel in for the faceoff, and I put in Green and Semin or Green and Backstrom. Poti would have been my last choice after the game he had that night.
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Nick in the box.
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by jordanDC on Mar 31, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
One, cut a hole in the box.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 31, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
True, but BB’s still looking for Q to fill that blocker role, which is why I think he was there.
I agree on Stecks, and I’d personally put Schultz out there, speed or no. Backs is a good 3rd, Semin would be a good 3rd…
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Laing, Steckel, Poti.
Slow, Slower, and Stupid.
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So we need to petition BB, right?
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think they’re on the verge of an upswing, because they’ve been down for a little while, record notwithstanding. They didn’t lose two in a row in regulation, and Backstrom is not going to be happy with himself after last night’s game. I don’t think he lets it happen, again.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Conclusion? No Cup this year. Damnit.
That’s where I am, too. Primary culprit being the PK. It’s just too horrible to go on with.
If they flame out in the first round, I’m wondering how short Boudreau’s leash is…
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Yeah, right now it seems like a team primed for a playoff choke job against a team with a good PP and work ethic.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
They are all scary at this point with the way we are playing nowadays – id take Boston though if i could choose
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by OviWankenobi on Mar 31, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m starting the Mark French lobby.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
For which job?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well if we are talking about Jockstrap Sniffer, I nominate Flash. A little Joxygen might wake him up.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Healthy is subjective. Laich will be fine, and you can’t really say dinged up 4th liners are going to be our downfall.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
No Laich. No BMo. No Carlson. ShaMo nicked up, and Belanger went down funny in the 1st.
Not a 4th-liner in that bunch.
Furthermore, Ovie just doesn’t look right.
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Backstrom had an interesting night as well. Hope he figures that out soon.
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I like Nick. I would have said he sucked shit, but his pass up to Ovie for Semin’s second goal was rather good.
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The main thing I noticed last night was that Backs looked like me on the ice: he was a little stumbly, he couldn’t keep the puck flat for shit, and his passes just weren’t him. Again, like I said earlier, I don’t think he lets that happen, again.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
He was wearing a black Bondra jersey?
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I assumed he meant Baxter was puking in a corner?
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I’d say he might as well have been :-).
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No – last night definitely not 100%. All those guys are expected to be ‘healthy’ for the playoffs though. Although I don’t know what the word is on Belanger. Nor am I sure he should play over MP.
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I wish I had been there for the discussion.
The health and overall play I expect to improve, at least to a decent degree, because its has in the past. It’s the PK, which has been crappy for more than just this season that concerns me.
Sadly I come to the same conclusion. Even if they somehow miraculously make it out of the East with that PK, SJ, Vancouver, or Detroit will light them up like the National X-mas tree. Even Chicago could do some serious damage.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
If we get out of the East, I actually like our chances, because I think the WC teams will beat each other up.
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Meh. They will, but they’ll still be like Pavlov’s dogs when they see our PK. That’s enough to get them by the Caps IMO. Hope I’m completely wrong.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
At some point, one of the big forwards on SJS or CHI will get KRONWALLED, and at some point, Zetterberg’s back will go out, and Datsyuk will get banged up.
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It’s the playoffs. Always a war of attrition. I don’t buy that all Western’s teams will look like MASH units and Caps will be healthy.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The WC is much stronger 4-8 (hell, 4-12), than the EC. There don’t look to be any “gimmes” in the first round out West.
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Injuries can happen at any time and in strange ways. They don’t just happen on physical plays. Hell, they don’t even always happen in games. Just ask Laich. I’m not disputing the WC is tougher road. I’m just stating that you are assuming a bit too much on the injury/attrition front.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but I expect more long series out west. More games means more injuries.
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More games against top flight competition also means more wear on the body. If the Caps get out of a series in 4, 5, or even 6, they have alot more rest then the teams going 7. The Caps would have the extra day, and not have to play; its two fold.
In the West, I could see most of the teams going to 6 or 7 in every round.
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I’m not expecting the Caps to blow by anyone. If there is anything I’ve learned watching this team is they rarely make it easy on themsevles.
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They had the tendency to play down to their opposition, but i think they did away with that sometime in the middle of this season.
I would not call any of the past handful of losses, “playing down to opponents” but more not trying
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Given the last 2 years I’m expecting some downers in the playoffs too. Plus, the other teams they play aren’t going to lay down. I expect some series wins, but not cakewalks.
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Remember at like the very end of the streak when the team was tired, not playing amazingly, yet still winning against good competition? I feel like if they dont show up to play one of the PO games in the first round, which i dont think they will do, i bet they will still be able to come out with a win. Hence, why i think they will go 4-0 or 4-1 against the 8th.
If they play down in the 2nd round, its going to 7, or 6 with us getting bounced. If the Caps bring their game, it could be 5 games, but i think it will most likely be 6
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I’m encouraged that you think they get out of the East, actually.
I am seeing a second-round problem with any of the candidates. PIT, BUF, NJD or MON will feast on that PK, get a couple opportunistic goals on D-zone coverage glitches, and there goes a series.
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That’s basically how I feel at this point. It sucks.
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Yes, it does. Boudreau’s stubborn refusal to make any adjustment – to the system, to matching lines, whatever – drives me nuts.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The stubbornness with regard to personnel is the one that really upsets me.
Tom Poti and David Steckel just aren’t good penalty killers, yet he keeps going back to them over and over and over again expecting different results. It’s beyond infuriating.
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Questions for those of you (CP2Devil, D’ohboy, Fat_Daddyo) who seem really down on the Caps today:
1) Did you feel that the Caps were going to fail to win the cup or even make it out of the second or third round before this three game losing streak?
2) Who do you think can beat the Capitals?
I mean, I have concerns about the Caps too but the fact that we’ve still put up more points than any other contender besides NSH and DET in the last 10 has to be encouraging, right?
I mean, “if they somehow miraculously make it out the East”? Really? Have you seen what we’ve done to Buffalo? The only way they beat us is if Miller steals four games by himself. Pittsburgh is 0-3 against us. Jersey is much weaker and we are much stronger than they were when we lost to them early on.
If the penalty kill is going to get us bounced, why have we had so much success in the regular season with the same PK?
I have concerns about this team too. OK, so they’re not flawless, but who is?
by Kolzilla on Mar 31, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Pittsburgh, San Jose, Vancouver. That’s it.
Unless we vomit all over ourselves, in which case anyone could.
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by macvechkin on Mar 31, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No one else is going to pull a DrinkingPartner, I don’t think.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re really owning that, aren’t you?
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Respect!
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Nice. Nothing wrong with calling Earl every so often.
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This, to the max.
Teams that scare me: Pittsburgh, Vancouver, Detroit
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I could see any series with a Western Conference team going seven games. All bets are off if we reach the finals. Pittsburgh worries me too, but not as much as last year’s version.
Well, I feel like if this team gets to the FInals, the entire team is going to fighting for every puck on every shift.
I think we’ll see an Ovie we’ve very rarely seen, using every ounce of energy he has to play defensively, to score goals, and to destroy anybody in his way.
Pittsburgh is just something we can’t shake. It seems like they buy into the rivalry a little too much. We are a much better team than they are this year, yet, they still manage to push us to the limit every game. They play above themselves, and we kind of let them do their thing until BB kicks everyone’s ass
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Points don’t matter in the playoffs. Wins and losses do. We are .500 in the last ten. All it takes is 4 losses in 7 games.
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If they can’t find a way to pick up the intensity level and attention to detail within the week I’ll be extremely concerned. Let’s see what happens in April before making any judgements though.
My only judgment is that if they keep playing like this, they are fucked. If they turn it around, fine, but we have to at least acknowledge there are some holes in the Caps squad.
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I’m not that down on the Caps and I think that they’re the team to beat, but I think the Pens, Devils, and Senators in the East could really challenge them.
I don’t think there is any way the Senators challenge the Caps in a 7 game series. The Caps won’t keep giving up a period in the playoffs, and the Sens won’t beat the Caps if the Caps play 60.
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I’m afraid of those “ifs” right now.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
If we make it to the second round, which is the only way we play OTT, we won’t be doing it with 40 minute efforts. The first round will tune us up and we’ll be ready. I don’t care about OTT’s season record with us; they’ve gotten some of the worst Caps performances of the year. I still think OTT is mostly smoke and mirrors.
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If the Sens are challenging the Caps in the playoffs then the Caps truly are in trouble.
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Agreed. I just want to see the switch flipped for good, like the rest of us, and won’t calm down til I do.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My negativity for the most part is specifically related to the Caps PK. I’ve said through much of the season that the Devils are the one team I fear in the East. Still the same. Caps can and should beat anyone else and quite frankly if they learn to be more disciplined and dump the puck they should beat the Devils as well.
West is a different story. Matchup against the Sharks or Wings scares me to death. It’s the make up of the team’s roster that scares me not how they play against others or their overall record. They speed and skill combined with excellent power plays.
PK hurts less in regular season because you don’t play same team every night. Weaknesses get exposed more in the playoffs. In addition, and more importantly, you aren’t playing great power plays every night like you would if you played a team like MON or SJ in a series.
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SJS really frightens me. They seem to have gotten over whatever was troubling them a couple weeks ago. For whatever reason, the Sharks run us through the buzz saw whenever we visit HP Pavilion.
My fear is that the Caps are fairly easy to game-plan against.
1. Don’t worry about what Ovie and Semin do – they’ll get their goals.
2. Shut down the Caps’ secondary scoring.
3. Don’t take penalties.
4. Hit them (Green in particular) and goad them into taking penalties.
5. Force Tom Poti to carry the puck.
6. Jump on them early.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 31, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice list D’oh. I’d add one more. Stand them up at the blueline and force them to dump the puck.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I do think your #5 is potentially the most relevant.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that this list is out in the open we’re doomed, DOOMED!@
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Number 2 is pretty much impossible when we’ve got 4 lines who can score.
That is pretty much the list, but you can do that for every team. SJS?
1)Forecheck their lines and force them to dump the puck
2)Put pucks on Nabby, some of them will go in
3) Don’t take penalties
4)Play your hardest against their first line, but dont forget Pavelski, Setoguchi, and Clowe
5) Bother Boyle and Clowe, they’ll give us a few PP minutes
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I’m not sure you got points 1 and 2. The point is: don’t worry about shutting down the Alexes. You can’t. Shut down players like Flash, Fehr, Chimera, Laich, etc. Let Ovie and Semin get a goal a game, as long as those are the only two goals you give up, because you’ll get at least 2 against the Caps’ defense.
1) The Sharks can play dump and chase pretty effectively.
2) Same can be said of any goalie
3) Sharks have a good PP, but not on the Caps’ level.
4) I’d actually make a different point – the Sharks don’t win a series if their top line doesn’t play well. Stop them (and they can be stopped), and you likely win the series.
5) Getting PPs is nice, but the Sharks kill 85% of penalties against.
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The Sharks have more holes than Swiss cheese if you know what to exploit. I really can only think of one glaring flaw Washington has. Not real comparable.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
These would be?
The biggest one I see is that their best players (Thornton, Marleau, Heatley) frequently fail to show up and that their goalie is streaky (which can be said about every goalie).
Other than that. . . their defense is a little slow afoot. Their 4th line doesn’t exactly strike fear in anyone’s heart. . . that’s about it.
They’re solid 5v5, 5v4, and 4v5.
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I think the first one is a big one. Your best players have to be your best. I also think there is a big drop off from the top line to the second line; bigger than most of the other contenders, if not all.
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Yeah. That’s the one I see – they’re a team that relies heavily on one line, a line that consists of players who haven’t always shown the ability to increase their level of play when necessary.
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When you combine “relies on the top line” with “top line doesn’t always show” that’s a bad mix.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Their lack of depth is pretty bad. . .beyond their first line scoring they’ve rly only got Clowe, Setoguchi, and Pavelski.
Their defense is also kind of shoddy. Not as bad as ours, but nothing to be extremely confident in.
Nabby has a tendency to be very bad in the POs, and if the Olympics werent any indication, he will prolly not do that hot this year
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Please don’t write like this. This isn’t a text message. Maybe I’m old fashioned, but I prefer actual English. What’s more, your lack of grammar/punctuation is causing your meaning to get lost:
if the Olympics werent any indication
Really. You can do better.
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Sorry, sorry. I usually write quite cohesively on the boards. I am having a bit of an off day today.
What I mean’t to say was, the Olympics seemed to confirm the hype that Nabokov is very shakey in big games. If we met in the finals, I would be confident that the Caps could put up quite a few goals against Nabokov
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-little depth. Shut down the HTMLers and you have it made. Ryane Clowe and Manny Malhotra scare no one.
-they don’t have any shutdown defenders. Who’s going to stop the top line? Boyle? No. Blake? No. Vlasic? Don’t think so, and he’s going to be just coming off the IR. Murray? Not by himself. Wallin? Please.
-Nabokov is easily flustered. If you score two goals in quick succession, light the victory cigar. We saw it with Nashville (though we lost, but not because Nabokov was good). The Preds reeled off five goals at the drop of a hat after the first two.
-some of their players take ill-timed penalties. There’s no stat to back me up on this, but Heatley and Boyle especially seem to take stupid PIM at stupid times. Washington’s PP would have its way with them, I think.
-thats what I got off the top of my head.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah word, well i was kind of trying to say that it is one thing to find the weakness, and an other thing entirely to actually exploit them.
Letting Alexes be Alex? Could end up being 3 goals. SHutting down the other players? Pretty much impossible for most teams when they are working for their ice time.
I do agree about the defense thing. . .it kinda sux. . .it has been said before, but the Caps offense isnt playing to top the opposing defense, they are playing to top their own.
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Subject to what happens tomorrow, I’m willing to give Bruce the benefit of the doubt that what he said in the locker room last night is nothing like what he said in public. If they crap the bed tomorrow, all bets are off.
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Do you have any doubt that they will? I don’t.
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Subject to what happens tomorrow, I’m willing to give Bruce the benefit of the doubt that what he said in the locker room last night is nothing like what he said in public.
Vito Corleone 101. Never let anyone outside the family know what you’re thinking. Never been a coach, but I have to think that on some level, Bruce is happy they didn’t come back and win last night. Now, he’s got something to really get mad about. Personally, this is probably the best time for a downturn. Let everyone shake the overconfidence out of their system and slowly work themselves back into a cohesive unit. My guess is that the team probably hit bottom last night and starting with Atlanta, you’ll begin to see a steady buildup to the playoffs.
This is exactly what F&B was talking about in the GTD. If they keep digging themselves out of 3-0 and 4-0 holes they won’t necessarily wake up and smell the shit they’re serving on the ice.
I’d really like to think last night was rock bottom…oh how I’d like to think that…
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 31, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
But Boudreau’s style has always been more Ozzie Guillen then Vito Corleone. If he’s not calling guys out in the media he’s probably not as angry in the locker room either, based on his past behavior. He and his players still sound a little too blase about playing out the stretch.
But Boudreau’s style has always been more Ozzie Guillen then Vito Corleone.
Boudreau called Jay Mariotti a popular homosexual slur?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s hysterical, yet batshit insane, and I would want him nowhere near my ball club. But this is OT.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
He won a Cup!
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Shame on Ozzie
For saying that about Mr. Mariotti, did he not care about the feelings of the LBGT community? I’m sure they’d give Jay back to the hetero world in a heartbeat if they have ever read or heard him.
Sorry I could see Brooks missing the Pittsburgh game and maybe, maybe, the Carolina game after taking the puck off the eye. But Calgary on Sunday and Ottawa last night?
Bruce may not want these guys to "coast’ or “cruise control” into the playoffs but when he scratches Laich for an injury that wouldn’t keep him out of a playoff game he sends an entirely different kind of message.
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I dunno. Laich broke a bone in his face. No sense in not letting the guy heal up at least a little. This isn’t “just a bump.”
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Did he?
I hadn’t heard he’d actually broken the bone. I’d be surprised to see him back before next week if that was the case…
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it’s been hinted at. The Caps refuse to confirm or deny it, but Mike Knuble pretty much said it was broken (I’ll see if I can find the Steinberg bog post)
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Brooks played on a broken ankle in the playoffs last year. That’s when you go all in, pain be damned. There’s no justifiable reason to do that when the team’s in the spot it’s in right now in the reg. season.
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He broke that ankle before the playoffs, too, but no one knew. Hard to hide that shiner. If he’s got medical clearance, he’s in the rest of the way.
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He’s got medical clearance, from what I heard.
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Well that’s actually the point I’ve been making over on my blog that nobody wants to read…
If these game were really important, Boudreau wouldn’t have held Brooks out. But they aren’t so Boudreau is letting Brooks heal up a bit for the games that are important in two weeks.
The players aren’t stupid, they know that Brooks would be playing if the games were really important. How many defensmen had broken ankles last spring? But if the coach is going to hold him out, he’s telling the team in a non-verbal way that the game isn’t that important and the effort suffers as a result.
I could see him missing Pittsburgh becausWell that’s actually the point I’ve been making over on my blog that nobody wants to read…
If these game were really important, Boudreau wouldn’t have held Brooks out. But they aren’t so Boudreau is letting Brooks heal up a bit for the games that are important in two weeks.
The players aren’t stupid, they know that Brooks would be playing if the games were really important. How many defensmen had broken ankles last spring? But if the coach is going to hold him out, he’s telling the team in a non-verbal way that the game isn’t that important and the effort suffers as a result.
I could see him missing Pittsburgh because of the swelling making things hard to see and maybe Carolina too, but I saw the Presser he did on Monday, he could have played Sunday and last night but Boudreau held him out.e of the swelling making things hard to see and maybe Carolina too, but I saw the Presser he did on Monday, he could have played Sunday and last night but Boudreau held him out.
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it’s possible that the trainers won’t clear him. I don’t believe he’s done a full-contact practice yet. There’s the very real potential of one really hard hit dislodging the break, despite wearing a full cage. (he may have practiced this morning, haven’t checked the twitter updates yet)
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Coyotes: WTF?
So while this Phoenix team should have beaten their projection by a number of wins, they are fundamentally not the 108-point team they’re going to finish as. If they come up against Detroit in the first round of the playoffs, they should be a serious underdog.
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He may be overstating it, but I think that the point the writer is trying to make is that previous playoff experience counts for a lot. Also, Detroit is firing on all cylinders (or other awful cliches about performace) right now.
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I don’t think he’s making a point about prior playoff experience as much as he is about how the Coyotes have gotten where they are – not much offense, goalies careering it, a dozen shootout wins and a generally unsustainable post-regulation win pct.
And, of course, they’d face a surging Wings team (I don’t think he’d call PHX a serious underdog if, say, Calgary – with all their experience – snuck in there).
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I wouldn’t put Calgary in the same class as Detroit when it comes to positive recent playoff experience, but then I don’t think anybody would. Good point about the shootout wins, I didn’t know they had quite that many.
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Right, not saying Calgary does have quite the same experience, but with respect to Phoenix they have much more – guys like Iginla, Kipper, etc. have been through more post-seasons than the ‘Yotes crew, generally. Then again, the Flames have a bunch of recent Leafs, who don’t know a thing about the playoffs.
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If Calgary had a few more wins on the season, I think you’d see that argument. But they’ve been struggling all year, so they’re pretty easy to write off as a threat for any reason, really.
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That’s my point (maybe it didn’t come across) – that PHX as underdog isn’t because of the experience of who they might play, but how they’ve gotten to where they are.
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I was more expounding than disagreeing.
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PHX is pretty much locked into the 4 spot. There’s really just three teams that they have a realistic shot of playing, in this order: NSH, DET, LAK. Would you agree they’re only underdogs to Detroit?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
No one’s going to pick Nashville in any series, and last night notwithstanding the Kings are having a pretty rough go of it lately.
Although, I; like BtN have trouble seeing the Coyotes sustaining the career goaltending and OT play. I think they’re prime for an early exit.
But you could say the same thing about the Preds’ playoff prospects and make a very good argument, so there doesn’t seem to be any rationality behind my theory other than what it looks like to the naked eye.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Dogs to the Kings too. That team is going to be an absolute beast in the playoffs. I’ve had the Kings and the Hawks in the west finals for a while.
by Bushwood Bushwhacker on Mar 31, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time you watched one of their games?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey, Phoenix is the feel-good story of the year for the NHL. I love ‘em. But boy, are they going to take a fall in the playoffs, and here is why. It is entirely likely that the Coyotes have maxed out on effort and the benefits of system-driven hockey (this bunch looks a lot like the 1980’s Caps in that regard). And for all that, no team in the league has more one-goal wins (they are 27-5-6). 12 of those one-goal wins came in shootouts. In the playoffs, I don’t know that they keep to the good side of that line as consistently.
And for good measure, Pittsburgh is in the same boat. They are 3rd in one-goal wins (23-6-7), and eight of them are of the Gimmick variety. Pittsburgh is just more capable, purely as a product of experience and skill, of going deeper than Phoenix, but it isn’t as if they have been consistently dominant in the regular season.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
My sense of it is that hockey is like baseball, in that winning by one goal is not a skill that is repeatable from year to year. I did a quick google search, though, and I can’t confirm that.
Anyone got anything concrete on that?
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You’re correct, but I’m too sick to look it up. :(
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I do think the additions they made at the deadline will help in the scoring department, but not enough against a team like the Wings. I love the analogy to the 80’s Caps. It fits pretty well. They are a system driven team that focuses on defense first.
I think they have a shot if they get the Kings or Preds. If they get the Wings its probably going to look a lot like their last playoff series as the Jets. Wings in 6.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
OT Goal
as much as i hate to admit it, what a fantastic play by kovalev for the ot winner. i would bet that if he tried that same play in practice w/ an open net, it’s a 50/50 goal at best.
and backhanded props to poti for at least having his stick on the side where the puck was passed.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
One of the ultimate million dollar talent, ten cent head guys that Kovalev.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Wonder if you could come up with another, more familiar example.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
my screen just asploded
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Greatest hair ever.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
K. Powers puts up a fight for that arguement.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
by highslot84 on Mar 31, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jagr’s an actual person. Kenny Powers is a character played by Danny McBride. Big difference.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Does his hair not count??
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Nope.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I think YLM’s point is that McBride’s hair was chosen for comic value, whereas Jagr’s haircut is completely a personal choice.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Correct a mundo….although we should probably continue this line of thought in OT
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
How could anybody have thought that that hair looked good at any point in history?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
if i had a dollar for every person who looked at their high school senior yearbook photo and said the same thing….
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
People must be willfully ignoring you. Every single person has to know exactly who you are talking about.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I’m going to start caling Kovalev Floatlife27.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
The Caps just need to make it to the playoffs w/o getting too down on themselves.
Yeah it would be nice to dominate all these teams and hit the playoffs in perfect stride, but when you’ve been ahead for as long as the Caps have, that’s a tall order.
At this point I think it’s somewhat unavoidable. The season is so long, it’s hard to maintain high intensity night and night out, when you know that the ‘real’ season starts in just a couple weeks.
I wish the desire to hit the playoffs in perfect form was enough motivation for these guys, but reality is that it’s harder than that. I think a realistic scenario is that it takes them a game or two in the playoffs to regain their focus, and then they’ll more closely resemble the dominant team they can be.
As many people here have said, an important factor will be not facing a super-hot goalie in the first round.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
I’d be more concerned if a lot of the other playoff-bound teams weren’t experiencing similar runs lately.
I may or may not just be trying to rationalize with my fingers crossed, though.
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last 10
Caps = 5-2-3 = 13 pts
Pens = 4-3-3 = 11 pts
Sabres = 6-3-1 = 13 pts
Devils= 4-3-3 = 11 pts
Sens = 5-5-0= 10 pts
Flyers = 3-5-2 = 8 pts
Bruins = 5-5-0 = 10 pts
Sharks = 4-5-1 = 9 pts
Hawks = 3-5-2 = 8 pts
’Nucks = 5-3-2 = 12 pts
Yotes = 7-2-1 = 15 pts
Preds = 7-2-1 = 15 pts
Wings = 9-0-1 = 19 pts
Kings = 4-5-1 = 9 pts
Lanch= 4-5-1 = 9 pts
so the caps are doing well at accumulating relatively meaningless points, but have only 5 regulation wins out of 10. thats what’s concerning. unless there has been a rule change, there are no points for OTL’s in the playoffs. then again, they are giving themselves a chance to win most games, which is a good trend.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Preds = 7-2-1 = 15 pts
Wings = 9-0-1 = 19 pts
Hottest two teams in the league, and get this: We’re five points back of the Hawks, the Wings six!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
overtime in the playoffs is 5-on-5, which plays to the Caps strength. and no silly shootouts. I wouldn’t be too concerned.
(I’m trying to stay calm and not start wiggling my toes of the ledge like I do every season. Hope is not lost!)
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God, why? Why are the rules so completely different from the regular season to the playoffs? I hate the 4-on-4 overtime, and I think if it’s not good enough for the playoffs then it shouldn’t be good enough for the regular season.
Yes, I do sort of feel the same way about the shootout, but I understand the logic for eliminating ties. I just think if it’s that important to eliminate ties, then every game should be worth three points (divided 3-0 or 2-1 between the two teams).
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 31, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Like the Olympic rules. Seemed pretty fair, actually. Give the losing team credit for the tie, and reward the winner, but penalize them for not getting it done in regulation.
I’m sure it’s been done, but I wonder what the standings look like then.
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Here you go, ran the numbers for you http://www.japersrink.com/2010/3/31/1398610/nhl-standings-using-olympics
by Elliotte on Mar 31, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice work!
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
in the regular season, the league wants a winner (particularly when there was no shootout) and 4-4 is perceived to be more condusive to scoring than 5-5.
thankfully the league has left the playoff format the same as regular season and doesnt junk up overtime through gimmicks or changing the format of the game. i wonder if there has been any discussion of making playoff OT changes to keep the OTs from going 3-4 periods? as great as they are, the TV folks cant be happy about games that go till 1 am…especially if that was an NBC sunday game…sure hope not.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m of the same opinion. Baseball doesn’t change how extra innings works from regular season to post season.
I also agree about the 3 point issue.
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Playoffs!
EAST
(p)Washington vs. Boston
(p)Pittsburgh vs. Montreal
(p)Buffalo vs. Philadelphia
(p)New Jersey vs. Ottawa
WEST
(p)San Jose vs. Colorado
(p)Chicago vs. Los Angeles
Vancouver vs. Detroit
(p)Phoenix vs. Nashville
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Vancouver-Detroit would be insane levels of awesome.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I like every western series more than I like any eastern series.
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no kidding
Preds playoff tickets go on pre-sale in one minute…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope you get some!
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Of course he will, it’s not like anyone in Nashville actually cares insert smugface here
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, they hired all those people. Actors. Smile! You’re on candid camera!
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Nah. They just opened the doors and lured in the homeless people with promises of free hot dogs and beer.
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FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
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You don’t get it. Move along.
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/Bird Watchers Anonymous’d
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
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Me too. And I hope they’re not too pricey. I was wrong, actually-Ticketmaster.com said 10AM which I thought was EST; they actually go up at 10CST. Oh, the waiting.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
oh god, another hour?!
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lol
I just mainly want to see how much they are so I know what to start selling.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Your body on the street corner will start to help.
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Playoffs? Playoffs?
Sorry was channeling Jim Mora….
Interesting match-ups…. A Devs/Sens series would be fun to watch…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 31, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The Art Ross is looking more and more out of Ovechkin’s reach. Sedin’s now up by three, and Ovechkin is ice cold with not many games to make up the difference.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 9:56 AM EDT reply actions
C’est la vie. No more individual BS.
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eh, sedin has played 10 more games than OV this year. ov also has a better plus minus and more goals. plus that east coast bias thing…
but im with others, i dont care about individual awards. i just wish they would award it before the playoffs so ov could get pissed off if he doesnt win.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s why I said Art Ross and not Hart. I think Ovie will win the Hart if he’s close in points and leads in goals.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Like when the gave David Robinson the MVP before a game with the Rockets, and Olajuwon went out and obliterated him for like 40 and 20.
/Bill Simmons’d
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
where’s the proper place for me to vent about the idiots around me last night? (man, I’m just a ray of sunshine today)
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I was like Leaner Central in 432 last night. Wish I had my camera. It was AWFUL. (in addition to all the other awfulness)
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Those guys aren’t even leaners he posted. Those people you at least only miss some of the ice if you’re sitting up straight.
The people that piss me off are the ones sitting in the middle to end edge of their seat.
I also have frantic head bobbing dude that refuses to miss a second of puck action near the boards. He is a season ticket holder. I’ve asked him to CTFO about 1000 times now but it doesn’t help. I’ll probably be selling a lot more tickets next season.
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Those guys aren’t even leanersheshe posted
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, that’s an obvious one.
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Didn’t know whose blog it was, why’s that a big deal?
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I thought you knew and was somehow getting me mistaken. My bad then :)
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Cool idea for a blog! I’m sure you’ll get a lot of contributions once the word gets out =D
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Thanks! I hope eventually it gets to the point that it gets some notice and they make an announcement, or word naturally spreads among the fans. I got my first picture this morning, well other than the one I took and the one from the pens fan.
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I had every type of leaner imaginable. and then the hyperactive 7 year old who bounced, literally, the whole night (don’t get me started on his leaner “father”). And the idiot who screamed the whole night-the Caps do nothing right, according to him. They guy from Chicago in the row in front of me, who decided after the game to let me know how dumb Washingtonians are and the only real hockey fans int he building are transplants (I got my revenge when he asked where I was from originally and responded with “I’m from DC, asshole.” Priceless). The guys behind me who didn’t know anything.
It was a baaaaaad night.
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Sorry to hear about it. It’s gotten to the point where I don’t really want to go to games anymore if I can’t get tickets for $25 or less. It’s a toin coss whether I’ll have fun or be frustrated for three hours.
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last night was by far the worst. My bad mood about it is compounded by the situation here at work, the fact that the Nationals have spent 3 weeks stringing me along on a ticket plan with no intentions of telling me the truth, and the impending dread of having to spend all weekend with my brother.
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Everyone was really mean last night. Booing, some guys in my section were calling for McPhees head, everyone flipping out that they were down by a few, acting like they had been shot on every missed pass or powerplay opportunity.
The weasel leaner was shouting in his girl voice, “nice ddddeefense you put together McPhee!.” And gems like, “get a crease clearing ddddeeeefenseman!” “Corvo SUCKKKSS”
The crowd there has gotten really spoiled IMO.
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418, but I could hear stuff like that 2 sections to either side of me.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I’ve got this boob behind me who thinks he invented the round puck who game after game engages in a 60-minute non-stop bitching exercise about the Caps. Doesn’t matter if teh Caps are down or whether they’re pounding the other team. This guy bitches all game long. Then last night, a fan behind him started heckling Brian Elliott, and this boob was muttering about how that guy should just shut up.
Irony… served in 24 ounce cups at Verizon Center.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
And it only costs 8 bucks!
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
You should start a twitter account and post his best gems every night. Sort of like http://twitter.com/shitmydadsays
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At least you get to attend games.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
oh, I forgot about the girl in the first row of our section, holding up the giant “MIKE GREEN WILL YOU MARRY ME?!” (complete with hearts) sign. Upside down. Winner.
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Urg. Maybe I need to just start a “Ridiculous caps fans” blog. Although the Bog seems good about it.
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how dumb Washingtonians are and the only real hockey fans int he building are transplants
I’m not saying that all the “smart” fans are transplants, but I’m continually amazed by how little the fans at the VC know about hockey – even some of the basics. I don’t know how much of this is the bandwagon effect, and how much is simply that this team didn’t have a huge amount of traction in this region for decades, and how much is that this still isn’t a traditional hockey hotbed on par with Detroit, Minnesota, Boston, or any of the Canadian markets.
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We’re a relatively new fan base, there’ll be some dummies.
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Agreed. Still, I’m even frustrated by the lack of basic knowledge possessed by some of the STHs I know. If you’ve had STHs for a couple years and you watch every game on TV, you ought to have picked some of the basics up by now.
I guess I’m lucky, both my dad and stepdad played and they took me to hockey games from the time I was 4. (I still wish I had started playing younger, though.) They also took the time to explain the nuances of the game to me.
Still, I think I learned more about the game in a season of coaching than I ever did watching.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
A lot of people have watched hockey all their life and couldn’t tell you what +\- is. People just take different stuff away from watching I guess.
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And yet most of these people can understand the NFL…
I really don’t understand why people find hockey difficult to understand. Of the four major sports, it’s got by far the simplest rules. (Soccer is simpler, but MLS isn’t a “major sport” . . . sorry BP.)
Rules in the NFL are just ridiculously esoteric, and they change every year, yet somehow Americans keep up with them.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If I feel better by then, I’m gonna try to go on Saturday.
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Apparently the vendors are improving (Ledo and Ben’s are making their debuts), however the play remains to be seen.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually does anyone understand the NFL? I watch NFLST every week and I’m convinced that they literally make shit up in those officials huddles.
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by macvechkin on Mar 31, 2010 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not just the complexity of the rules, it’s the pace of the game. Every other sport gives regular stoppages so the announcers can say “you see… The Tight End motioned off the line, and the Wide Receiver didn’t motion forward to cover up the Tackle so you have an illegal formation here.” Nobody understands why that’s a rule, and most people didn’t even realize it’s a rule, but you get a break for an explanation. You don’t get an explanation on every single play for hockey because the game keeps moving.
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This is why Laughlin the Telestrator makes big money.
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A lot of people think anytime the ref or linesman put their hands in the air it’s a penalty and start booing when no one is heading to the box.
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“Where is the goalie going, he’s leaving the net open!”
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hell, I don’t know what frosting is?
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D'oh!!
Retract, retract!!
I get it…frosting = icing.
Can we get a delete function?
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This was the person sitting next to me at the bar during the US-Canada gold medal game.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 31, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
In general, when fans attend a sporting event about which they are still learning, they should subscribe to this notion:
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
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NHL Customization loophole
We were discussing this in the OT thread, but there’s a loophole i’ve found with the customizable shirts on NHL.com. If you put a space after the player’s name, it will let you put that name on the shirt. It doesn’t let you put “current roster players” on there for some reason, but for example if you type “OVECHKIN” and then space, it thinks the name is actually "OVECHKIN " and accept it as not a current roster player.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:41 AM EDT reply actions
Do you think you’ll get an off-center shirt?
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I suggested a space on either side of the name to fix that.
Search “nhl coupons” before you order, too.
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I don’t know if anyone uses this site but I usually check it whenever I order something online:
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Here are the shop.nhl.com coupons http://www.retailmenot.com/view/nhl.com
You can google for them too but it seems like you get tons of spam websites when doing that.
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just lean the other way.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’ll work.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 31, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
As soon as I get home, I’ll find out.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
The cap’s just need to take everything from their right pocket…and put it in their left. Then double knot their left shoe…and turn their hats backward. That will solve everything
I've often thought of becoming a golf club
and see a self-help psychologist, eh Cup?
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by ThePeerless on Mar 31, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Home Game 1, Section 329, row P, seat 6: $33.00, and done.
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What do Caps playoff tickets go for in the upper bowl?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Once the season ticket holders buy them all.
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I think the lowest ones were $65 last year? Every section just moves up a tier or two.
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ouch
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Just checked, cheapest in round one are $65 (our corners). And I found my e-mail dated last April 1 telling me my tickets were on the way. So a matter of days now. Whee!
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sigh. that’s not so bad when you realize in Canada – back when the Sens/Leafs both made the playoffs, my housemate (die-hard leafs fan) paid about 200 or so, for upperbowl ends, pretty far up.
Of course, that’s the face value, not my price.
And assuming the Caps don’t fall apart in the playoffs, I’m already moaning that I’m going to miss a game in round two because I’ll be picking up my son from school. But I’m basing that on last year’s schedule, and that was the weekend of the back-to-backs in two different cities, so maybe I’m worried about nothing.
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where in the upper bowl? Ends, center, or corners?
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Right-center attack twice, is where I believe 329 is. I’ve only sat in the UB once.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
in DC, likes like the rough equivalent seat goes for $90 in the first round. (STHs pay considerably less)
Page 13 of the 2010-2011 STH and 2010 Playoff info packet, if anyone is interested in checking it out.
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holy moly
90? Yay small-market prices
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
well, the Caps are giving STHs a huge break, almost 50% off. that’s about 3/4 of the arena, plus any other tickets they let us buy. So, yeah, Average Joe who doesn’t have a friend with season tickets is getting screwed because the Caps are trying to make up the difference with the price they charge for single seats.
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Are you sure we get the same break on extra seats? I seem to recall not getting the STH break on extra playoff seats last year (though I think we did the year before)….
oooh, shit, questions I forgot to ask my rep and just assumed……and my dad is going to be pissed when the bill comes out to twice as much as I told him. Off to call……
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yeah the break for extra seats ended last year for playoffs, and they didn’t offer the discount on additional seats this regular season either because of scarce tix availability.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
bummer :(
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According to this, you’re on the end where they only shoot once. Also, what an oddly designed arena.
oh well
I just misremembered (heh). They were best available, and at least I’m in.
The stadium has awesome sightlines. Its really fantastic for watching hockey.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Really interesting shape. I wonder why the the team chose to shoot twice on the non seat-heavy side? Ticket demand is always greater on the half of the ice where the home team shoots twice, at least from my experience. Not to mention any small tactical advantage it might create to intimidate (“ALL YOUR FAULT!!!”)
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New post!
Our latest leaner, courtesy of bagace!
I have a feeling this blog is going to bring out the bitter side of me a bit haha
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am i misunderstanding the concept of a leaner? i thought a leaner was someone who sits next to you who bends forward to see the action and thus blocks you out. that picture above appears to be sitting in front of the photographer. appears to be a very tall person. if she were leaning forward, wouldnt that make the view better for the person behind them?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to assume my readership knows the difference between a leaner and a tall person.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 31, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, no no no no no no no. The seats are configured so that if the person in front of you leans forward or sits anywhere but in the very back of their seat, your view of half the ice is obscured. That last post on vCleaners is the definition of what needs to be stopped.
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The VC must suck for tall people with long legs. I’m 6’ 4" but I have a 30" inseam, and my knees are still crammed up against the seat in front of me. I have to sit kind of sideways and slouch a bit in order to fit in there at all.
I’m a horrible guy to sit behind, I guess…
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It’s ok if you’re tall. I’m tall. Just don’t lean!
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Exactly. You can’t get mad at tall people just for being tall, it isn’t their fault.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
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This is the only automobile I could afford!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I must have long legs because I’m 6ft with a 29" inseam.
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You guys are weird. Some strange dimensions.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Seriously. Are guy legs really that short? I’m 5’3" and my inseam is 29".
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I’m talking about actual measured inseam. Not what pants you buy. I wear 34" inseamed pants.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I only know from what I buy. Which is how I measure it. Otherwise, how do you measure it?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
You measure with pants on from the inner right of crotch down to the ankle.
Clothes are all sized differently. Like a 34" mens waist on pants is more like 36" to 37" in American markets.
Just like how womens dress sizes will be a 0 in one store but a 2 in another.
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Yeah, that’s how I measure it — to the end of the leg.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Are you sure?
I’m 5’ 8", and I have a 31.5 inch inseam…
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
At the risk of going too far off topic, I find these 6’0 + people with less than a 30" inseam to be strange. I’m 6’1+ with a 32" inseam.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty much any sporting venue sucks as far as comfort, unless you’re 5-2 and petite.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
And then you can’t see over anybody’s head.
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by wickedwitch on Mar 31, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, when she sat upright in her seat, she was the same height as the people next to her. The pic was taken of her sitting in front of me, I held my cameraphone directly in front of my eyes, looking down at the ice. I guess if you’re sitting in the lower bowl on the sides, then a leaner on your row would block your view. But up in the nosebleeds, behind the goal, where the seats are angled pretty steep, the front leaners are the ones blocking the view.
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OK, so the question is going around on Twitter: you can pick any five guys and a goalie from the current NHL or historical to take a shift-who ya got? I went with only current players because I never watched any of the all-time greats…
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Another interesting question would be if you could build an NHL team from scratch, and you could pick any combination of current NHLers or prospects to include on your roster, who would you choose? This is assuming that you have to follow the salary cap and that all of the players have their current contracts and cap hits.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
The current Capitals with a better 2C, and Pavel Kubina instead of Joe Corvo
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Kubina over Seidenberg? or Hamhuis?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes. I was the driver and head muckety-muck of the Pavel Kubina Bandwagon. I think he fit better than both those two would have.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets not start this again. :P
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Which 2C would you want from the current NHL?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
he's a LW
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I like him a lot but I don’t think he’s going to be very durable.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, we thought the same about Pothier, too. Give the kid a year off and no astigmatism and he could be even better. Perhaps he should consider a full cage.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
lol wut
No, really.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Lets not talk about Peverley considering the power play problems we have, okay?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
If I have to fit who was affordable into the discussion? I like Kesler, and he only makes 1.7 this year (his 4 year 20 million extension kicks in next year)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
That damn Peter Regin is killing it in Ottawa too, and he’s still making a rookie 620
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Sounds like an mid august “man I miss hockey” exercise.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Mar 31, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Without using any historical guys I never saw, I go with
Goalie- Roy
F- Gretzky, Wendel, Bure
D- Langway, 1985-86 Paul Coffey
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends a little bit on the game situation, but for general purposes I might go with:
Lemieux – Gretzky – Hull
Stephens – Lidstrom
Roy
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I think I take Ovechkin over Hull (and switch Mario to RW) and perhaps Hasek circa mid-to-late-90s over Roy.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Brooks Laich and five stiffs, FTW.
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Beat me to it.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Five Quintin Laings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
/David Eckstein’d
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
The most heart in any starting five in NHL history!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
We’d get outscored every game 100-0, but no one would be more gutsy. There would be none more gutsy.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Who will be a bust.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I have heard that from a few places, but I’ve only seen the kid play once in the WJC finals game. He seemed alright to me.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
His face and blue fish lips bother me.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll admit that I had the special olympics pop to mind when I saw him accept his medal.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he sucked in the WJC IMO. He was pushed around all night and wasn’t really an impact player. Got a total fluke goal but wasn’t really creating anything independently. Expected a lot more from him and considering how much better Fowler played I’m shocked that Fowler is still behind Hall and Seguin in every mock draft I’ve seen.
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He plays D, right? Seems like they can’t get a break.
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Fowler plays D. Seguin and Hall are F. Who can’t get a break?
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D men was who I’m encompassing in my “they”
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Have to admit that I wasn’t impressed by Fowler, but I was also comparing him to JC#74.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well early on you could make the case that Fowler was better than JC11. But by the end JC11 was definitely the best player on the team. Fowler was a stud, he got tons of ice; it seemed like Fowler or Carlson was always on the ice. Fowler was also matched against Hall (and thus one of the best lines in the tournament) the entire time and shut Hall down. He’s big, can skate, and play with the puck. Gut is for real.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Gut is for real.
He must be drinking too much milk.
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It’s like, how much more gutsy could that team be? And the answer is none. None more gutsy.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 31, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Goalie – Hasek
LW- Bobby Hull
C – Gretzky,
RW – Richard
D- Lanway,
D -Coffey
If I could take non-NHlers, I’d have replaced with Hull with Kharmalov.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Coffey???!?!?!?!
WHAT?!?!?!
Dude, CP, there’s this guy who used to play in Boston. Wore #4. Pretty damn good, IIRC.
Coffey. You must be high. :P
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That’s the one I forgot up top. Shit, I’m too young for these things.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Woulda gone with Orr, but I never really saw the guy play. And its not like Coffey was a slouch.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, I never saw him play, but he’s the defenseman. There’s no argument, until Green starts breaking records.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I completely agree. I think Orr’s the greatest hockey player ever.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m fine with Orr replacing Coffey. Coffey would work better passing wise with what I have, but Bobby is was stud and probably best all-around d-man ever. Though, Lidstrom might have decent argument.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m more concerned with my lack of editing in that post than my choosing the best offensive defenseman ever. FWIW
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Orr was better than Coffey in every conceivable way.
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Coffey won more Cups.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 31, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I debated Orr v. Lidstrom for a while in my head, but in the end I went with Lidstrom, because he’s done it in a much more demanding era. You watch the Orr clips and the game was soooooo much slower and the players soooo much smaller…
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It is hard comparing guys in different eras, though I find comparing goalies the hardest. I mean how do you compare Johnny Bower to Dryden to Roy?
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
No. Just. . . No.
Orr completely revolutionized the game. He was faster than everyone else on the ice because he was just that good. And he did it on knees that looked like sacks of marbles.
If he had played 10-15 years later (once surgeries improved) he likely would have played 20 years and would have challenged Gretzky for the all-time scoring title.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Eh, perhaps. I don’t see him getting 200 point seasons, though, unless he’s playing in Edmonton. You can only do so much by yourself, as we’ve seen since before Nicky.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
No way I can dispute any of that. However, from game film I’ve watched and in Coffey’s case seen in person his passing skills were better. I like that with the forwards I chose. Again, Orr would be a great choice just as Roy would be in net. I realize many consider Orr the best player ever. I can’t dispute it. Just saying I like my choices.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
If we were making a list of all-time greats, Orr would be at the top of my list.
I agree with you that Orr was a physical freak of nature – a man playing among boys. I think the faster and stronger players today would put more of a damper than they would on Lidstrom, is what I was thinking.
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My favorite Orr stat is one year his +- was a +124.
I know it’s not that great of a stat, but come on. A 124!! that year the Bruins scored 399 goals and gave up 207. Unbelievable.
Speaking of unbelievable stats, I was just reading about the 76-77 Canadiens, who went 60-8-12 and only lost two games in the playoffs.
Good heavens….
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but how many did they win in the shootout?
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by jordanDC on Mar 31, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I remember watching the finals that year (Why do I keep thinking it was the Flyers?? Might’ve been the Bruins??) . Anyway, the Habs basically scored at will. Every time Philly got close, Montreal would just pay attention for a little bit and score. Complete domination.
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FWIW, I chose Ovechkin, Backstrom, and Tomas Holmstrom up front, with Weber, Doughty, and Ryan Miller on the back end. There’s a lot to be said for the chemistry Baxter and AO have, and Holmstrom was an easy choice between being the best garbage guy in the league and also being Swedish. Him picking up AO’s rebounds could be awesome. No explanation necessary on the blueline/crease ;).
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Give me Brown instead of Holmstrom and I could live with that probably.
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Yeah, admittedly I didn’t think of him, but Nicky would probably work better with Homer I think. Dustin Brown is one of my favorites though.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d go. Todd Bertuzzi – Darcy Tucker – Steve Downie 4th: Claude Lemieux
Chris Pronger – Ulf Samuelsson 3rd: Chris Chelios
or
Clarence “Screaming Buffalo” Swamptown – Ross “Mad Dog” Madison Andre “Poodle” Lussier Ogie Ogilthorpe-Gilmore Tuttle
Bah-Ram-Ewe, Ovechkin will wreck you. Fear the Furious Fleece!
Clarence "Screaming Buffalo" Swamptown
Ross "Mad Dog" Madison-
Andre "Poodle"Lussier
Ogie Ogilthorpe
and
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No one could stop those guys
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Roy.
Orr/Lidstrom.
AO/Gretzky/Howe.
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Mark Howe didn’t play wing.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 31, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Ovechkin-Crosby-Parise
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice fucking team. I didn’t even read this when I posted mine. My D beats yours though.
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True, I wasn’t thinking all-time when I made mine, otherwise I might take a pair of Bs as my D. I liked your selection of Howe at W.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Bourque and Orr?
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Avery, Ott, Tootoo,
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I know!!!!!!!! I cant have all the douches.
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replace Tootoo with Carcillo and you’re good to go
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Nyet, two left wings.
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It would be foolhardy to try and convince you Jordin doesn’t belong on that team, wouldn’t it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
We have bad memories of that kid you know. In general I agree though.
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What’d he ever do to you? Did you have a crush on Stephane Robidas?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Poor matt bradley.
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For some reason (no joke) I have zero recall of this- YouTube?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno – he’d be the scorer on that team. He might not get to douche as much.
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Dude I could make a roster full of douches. I just went with what I could think of.
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Naw, someone else should though.
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We talkin’ an 18 player roster? FanPost comin’ UP
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Heater – Kane – Simon
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Pronger is washed up and everyone knows you can’t split the Sedins. I’m also positive H. Sedin is not the second best wing in the game.
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Ovie, Backstrom and … Crosby on the wing. Though I guess you’d want him taking the draws.
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Keith – Green
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Goalie depends on if I get to take Marty Brodeur from 1995-2003 or Brodeur right now. If it’s the former, I take Brodeur. The latter, I take Miller.
Lidstrom/Doughty
AO/Crosby/Parise
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Can he kill penalties?
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Maybe as a sleeper agent inserted into New Jersey’s roster…
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I doubt he gets back to the NHL. Is there any possibility of a decent return on him? Probably not. Why trade him?
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He would probably work as a NYR, and they’d take him.
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They have to sign Jagr first, right?
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But what would the caps get in return? Why give him the chance to burn you if you can bury him in the A.
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They get to clear cap space and not pay at least part of his salary.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions
The cap space is freed up any way you look at it, though.
They could, though, save the actual cash money, and maybe get a bit of an asset back in return.
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What do you realistically get back for him?
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7th rounder or some prospect, probably.
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So does the risk outweigh the reward?
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Him coming back to burn the caps obviously.
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You are so funny.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
You know he would!
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No, actually I don’t.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 31, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh.
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Knowing our luck…
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He might get a pair of assists!
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More like ass cysts.
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by jordanDC on Mar 31, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What risk?
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What risk??
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Risk?
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And hillbillies wanna be called “sons of the soil”…but it ain’t gonna happen
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Too bad i’m an hour late on that….stupid meetings
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So the Caps have shown the ability to come back from 2-3 goal leads and being down entering the 3rd with remarkable consistency this year.
My biggest concern would be how easily this translates into the playoffs. I wonder how much more difficult to overcome those type of deficits when you’re consistently playing better teams and seeing the same team 4-7 games in a row.
My biggest concern is not needsing to come back from 2-3 goal defecits.
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This is it. Recently they’ve made a habit of getting in a hole and then turning on the jets to get back into it. Sucks.
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Punch the Caps in the face.....
and they fold. WOW THEY ARE SOFT!!!! Wheres Craig Berube when you need him?
Care to cite any specific examples?
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I guess it’s good to know that as bad as things ever get with the Caps, or in life in general, at least one doesn’t have to live with the fact that one is That Guy.
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Am I the only one who sees similarities between BB and Mike D-Antoni? Here are the similarities I see. Both are former players who toiled in the minors, Italy in D-Antoni’s case, both playing and coaching with some big league playing experience sprinkled in. Guys who believe in excellent offensive systems, but pay too little attention to defensive aspects of the game. Guy who don’t use their benches in a smart manner and let their stars play too many minutes. Guys who seem too stubborn to make changes that are obviously needed.
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I could easily Google this, but to save any others in my situation the trouble… who’s Mike D’Antoni?
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Current coach of the Knicks, former coach of the Suns, who presided over a scoring machine in the regular season but failed in the playoffs (never winning a championship).
The criticism of D’Antoni and what eventually got him fired in PHX was that his teams couldn’t make stops when they needed to on the defensive end, he failed to use his bench properly and that he played his stars like Steve Nash too many minutes. Many people he thought he played favorites in a couple of cases as well. His stubborness cost him his job more than anything else. His GM asked him to make changes, but D’Antoni only made superficial ones.
Like in any analogy when comparing two individuals there are differences between the two. BB does differ from D’Antoni in terms of not being afraid to play young guys.
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I wasn’t trying to make any connection between BB and D’Antoni (or try and explain why the Suns never won a title). I don’t think their situations are very similar.
First off, thanks for the two responses. I’m interested as to why you don’t think the situations are similar. Is it due to personnel, coaching decisions?
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I don’t think they’re comparable because the games are just too different. With basketball, it’s much easier to dictate a game-plan, because when you’re on offense, you have much more control over the pace of the game. In hockey, it’s much easier to dictate pace defensively.
D’Antoni’s philosophy of push-push-push worked well against teams that weren’t that strong at a half-court offenses, but when faced with a series against Dallas or San Antonio (who he always lost to), they couldn’t do it. The fast-paced game just isn’t as efficient as one who has a great inside-outside game. Also, when faced off against Tim Duncan in his prime, a lot of teams lose.
They tried to change that by getting Shaq, but it was too little, too late. He couldn’t keep up with the up-tempo pace on offense and could no longer outplay someone like Duncan.
The Caps’ philosophy seems (and you guys can all correct me on this) to pressure the opposing team and force an odd-man or open ice rush. It may look similar to the Suns because there are a lot of rushes, but Phoenix would just wait for a missed shot to take off, the Caps create their rushes.
Excellent points. I completely agree on how pace gets dictated in both sports and how both teams
My point was more to their coaching philosophies and personality traits, but I do concur pace of play dictates coaching to some degree and makes the analogy harder to draw.
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Hmmm… D’Antoni is more of a system coach. “Here is what I want you to do, do it!” BB is more of a talent coach. “You guys excel at this, so do it!”
However, in both cases, talent dictates the ability of the team to succeed. I mean, look at the Knicks: they are a poorly put together team that has no capable point guard or outside shooting. So D’Antoni’s game plan had to change, and it’s shown that the new one is not working.
We don’t really know what BB would do if he was handed a shitty team. I mean, put him in charge of the Oilers, and what would happen?
(And I have to admit, I think that the Caps are going to most struggle in the playoffs if they meet up with a team that has good puck possession — the Devils, Penguins, to a lesser extent Senators, and, if they get that far, the Red Wings. They just won’t have as much opportunity to counter attack.)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
all I know about the NBA is the Wizards are awful, the Nets are worse, and Shaq is one big dude.
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Most importantly: the NBA sucks.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
If I would have known this was going to turn into a “The NBA sucks” thread I wouldn’t have brought it up. I thought it was an interesting analogy. Apparently my assumption that others might have some comments on whether or not it was a valid one was incorrect.
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I follow the analogy, but wonder if it’s accurate. It’s not the NHL, but Bruce has won a championship, so I assume that he has half an idea of what he should be doing. What I hate is that all of sudden the injury bug is popping up again, but the gaps have to be filled off the roster, not from Hershey for the most part. Therefore, maybe we’re not necessarily getting the best replacement for the missing player (a like-kind player from Hershey)? Not saying it would be a big difference, but maybe it would?
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Just as a point of reference. D’Antoni won domestic league championship titles in the Italian league and some related Euro titles. European basketball is set up a bit like soccer where you can win multiple titles in a season.
Roster situations are definitely different in both sports and is one area where the analogy breaks down a bit. BB, as a hockey coach, has to use a deep bench whether he wants to or not to some degree whereas a basketball coach is only forced to due to multiple injuries.
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but the difference is that the AHL has basically the same rules as the NHL, and European basketball is absolutely nothing like the NBA
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You do like hyperbole. “Absolutely nothing” like is a bit extreme. Certainly there are major rule differences and traditionally they use more systems oriented sets on offense and defense than they do in the NBA. However, its still the same fundamental game. Pass, shoot, rebound, defend.
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I see what you mean with your analogy, and I agree with it based on what I know about D’Antoni and Boudreau. Didn’t mean to hijack your thought, which was a good one. Hopefully the two diverge when it comes to winning important games.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Long-time lurker, first time poster here. I’ve actually thought about this analogy too – not just D’Antoni to Boudreau, but those Suns teams to the Caps (as currently constructed). Both have/had offenses well above the norm of the times, and both played a style that is thought to entertain but not win (despite the Suns winning 60+ games and now the Caps with the most points in the league). The place where the analogy diverges though is the relationship between GM and coach. Boudreau and McPhee have (it seems) a similar understanding of the roster and how effective it can/will be in the postseason. After Colangelo left and Kerr came on in Phoenix, there was a huge disconnect between his philosophy and D’Antoni’s – leading to the Marion-Shaq deal and D’Antoni adopting a style that didn’t fit his personnel at all. I agree with RCheli (above) that it’s hard to draw comparisons between NBA and NHL, but if there is a comparable team, it has to be the Suns.
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First off, welcome.
As for the GM thing, certainly a big difference there as you note. Kerr wasn’t the one who hired Mike and that never helps. Second, their basketball philosophies were different. GMGM hired BB and they seem to be on the same page.
I find it most interesting that Alvin Gentry, the current head coach who was an asisstant under D’Antoni, has done what myself and most basketball people believed D’Antoni should have done all along. Gentry uses his bench and has forced the players to play better defense. The roster is not the same as when D’Antoni was here, but in many ways I felt like the rosters Mike had were better overall. Nash was younger (and a bit better) and Amare was younger (and a bit worse.). They cancel each other out for me.
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It is interesting to note how the Suns evolved from D’Antoni’s original system, D’Antoni under Kerr, and finally now a hybrid between the styles under Gentry. I wonder if something similar could be in the future for the Caps – maybe not the coaching change, but BB slowing the game down a bit and reducing the risks that are taken. It’s hard to figure out (especially in this stretch of games) how much of the poor defense is coaching and how much is on the players. Much like Amare, OV and co. have the skills and smarts to play good D, but maybe not the dedication necessary to really become good defenders.
BB slowing the game down a bit and reducing the risks that are taken.
I’ve thought along the same lines. One area where I think an adjustment might work some is to focus more on the backchecking especially from the wingers. You’d sacrifice some of the odd man rushes BB wants, but I think we’d get the puck out of our own zone much quicker and reduce SOG.
It’s hard to figure out (especially in this stretch of games) how much of the poor defense is coaching and how much is on the players.
This stretch of games is a wash to me. Too many other factors playing in. I look at the broader trends over time. It’s why I harp on the PK to the point where I’m sure I’m annoying the piss out of everyone around here.
Nice avatar. Maybe the Caps are just lacking a wicket keeper.
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Don’t know about the analogy, but I am deeply concerned with BB. I had a friend mention to me at the beginning of the season that maybe BB wasn’t the right guy. I like him and everything he has done, but I’m starting to look over the past year and agree with my friend. Maybe he isn’t the right guy to coach this team. He doesn’t seem to work and fix weaknesses, he just keeps doing the same thing. Its scary to think that the Caps are so dominant and yet have so many weaknesses. What if this team was coached correctly? The domination would be unfathomable!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that I would use the term “coached correctly”. BB clearly understands how to coach hockey and has publicly stated and some of the team’s weaknesses and has tried to address some of the issues. I think his approach is up for debate in some cases, but the guy isn’t clueless.
He is a good coach, but good may not be enough. To put it another way, his leadership and coaching style may not fit this teams needs at a certain point in time. Whether that point has been reached or when it will be is another interesting point that could be discussed. I was looking at it more from a philosophical aspect in how he approaches his coaching and what style of play he coaches mixed in with personality.
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For the most part, I like his systems, and I think he’s a good mentor to the players.
What I would change is his unwillingness to A) change systems that clearly aren’t working, and B) change out personnel that clearly aren’t working.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
The odd thing is he can change plans in the middle of the games, but not between games.
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I wouldn’t go that far, though it seems like it on the surface. I’ve got some issues with BB, but in his defense the lack of practice time in season in sports like NHL & NBA due to the condensed schedules retards what coaches can do in some cases.
Coaches would love to sometimes have longer breaks between games to fix issues or work on certain aspects of the game. Coaches are loathe to make major changes between games if they can’t work on said changes on the ice/court. When you are down a couple of goals you just say screw it what can it hurt now. I think its a bit human nature. I’ve seen that with a number of coaches in almost every sport over the years. And those are the good ones. The bad ones don’t adjust ever.
I think BB does do well in a crisis and gets a bit creative. It’s one of things I like about him.
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Yeah, he’s shown an ability to adjust in-game.
What gets me is how he can look at a season’s worth of film and still not get that Poti and Steckel shouldn’t be leading our team in PK ice time.
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Couldn’t be much worse, except for “Where the hell is my stick” Erskine
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You’d think a guy would learn how to play at least passably without a stick when he loses it so much, but then you remember you’re talking about Erskine.
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Agreed. His ass had better be firmly planted in the press box unless we are playing a rough and not particularly speedy opponent.
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Alzner would be alot better, imo.
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I am ok with these lines, take Poti off PK, and i think he would be alot better. He would have less time to make crucial mistakes imo.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 31, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
That is easily Burke’s worst deal of his tenure so far.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It was likewise the worst deal of Chiarelli’s tenure. It was a deal that worked out poorly for both teams.
Boston’s window with Savard and Chara is likely closed now, and their picks won’t develop into anything for a couple of years at a minimum. Maybe Chiarelli looked at his team and realized that they had no realistic shot at the Cup, but then . . . why not blow the whole thing up? Why re-sign Savard to the extension?
From TO’s perspective, they’ve gained in the here and now when, realistically, they won’t have a shot to win a goddamn thing for another few years.
Just a mind-boggling trade all around.
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You’re right on all counts, and in addition it was bad for Toronto because Kessel is not worth anywhere near what they gave up. They gave up way too much, Boston did too- because Kessel is worth more to a team with Lucic/Savard/Chara/Sturm than he is to a team with nothing.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Kessel is not worth anywhere near what they gave up
I’d actually disagree with this. The odds that one of Boston’s two draft picks (even if they get one of the top-2) turns out to be a guy capable of scoring 40 goals a year is pretty slim. In a similar vein, I don’t know if Burke thought the Leafs would make the playoffs, but I know he didn’t think the Leafs would be so epically bad, either. Otherwise, why sign guys like Komisarek and Beauchemin?
I think Burke thought that the Leafs would be a fringe playoff contender this year (as did I), and he thought that the probability of getting a guy as talented as Kessel in the middle of the first round is pretty damn unlikely (and he’s correct in that assumption, for the most part).
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Maybe so. I don’t value Kessel as high as you do, obviously. Seems to on-again-off-again to me.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems to on-again-off-again to me.
Last two years:
Kessel: 76G – 135 Games played, which comes to .56G/Game
Semin: 71G – 129 Games played, which comes to .55G/Game
Mind you, Kessel’s put up his stats this year on a team with almost no offensive talent around him. He sees the oppositions best defense/defensive forwards every time out on the ice. (So much for the argument that he’d be lost without a center like Savard.)
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Oops. Math fail. (This is what I get for posting when I’m really, really sick.)
Kessel’s line should read 66 goals. Damnit.
Anyhow, his goals/game ratio compares favorably with almost anyone not named Ovechkin.
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So....
to prove that Kessel is consistent you compare him to the most notoriously inconsistent Cap? I’m not sure what you’re trying to pull over on us, sick boy.
Averages, by definition, hide inconsistency. Did you watch the Olympics? That’s “off again” Kessel. He also came out of the gates hard for TOR and then disappeared for a nice spurt.
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Goalscoring is inherently "inconsistent"
Given that goal scoring is a rather binary event (it either happens, or it doesn’t), and that nobody in the league outside of Ovechkin even approaches a goal/game average, “goal-scoring consistency” is a huge oxymoron. The best you can hope for is that a guy doesn’t disappear for more than 5 games.
Kessel’s had goalless droughts of 5, 6, and 8 games this year, but then, so has Stamkos. And nobody’s saying that guy is inconsistent. Parise had droughts of 5, 5 and 12 games. Crosby has had two droughts of seven games. Marleau, 5, 6 and 7. Gaborik But they’re not inconsistent.
There is one “consistent” goal scorer in this league, with one drought of 6 games… (Gaborik (two 5-gamers) is pretty good, too.)
FWIW, Semin’s had two 4-game droughts and one 6-game drought.
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Fair enough point but it’s not just scoring goals. I don’t watch Stamkos or Gaborik all that much, but I do know that even when Crosby and Parise aren’t scoring goals they are doing other things that help their team (and with MIN Gaborik was pretty remarkably consistent when healthy). When guys like Kessel and Semin aren’t scoring, they are invisible (or worse).
FWIW, Semin’s had two 4-game droughts and one 6-game drought.
And this kinda proves my point. If you are going to use these stats to prove or disprove “consistency” then you are clearly missing something. Any stat or analysis that makes Semin look consistent must be inherently flawed.
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I see your point, but my original point, way back at the beginning of the thread was:
The odds that one of Boston’s two draft picks (even if they get one of the top-2) turns out to be a guy capable of scoring 40 goals a year is pretty slim.
To which Chris replied:
Seems to on-again-off-again to me.
I guess I took that to mean goal-scoring. Admittedly, Kessel’s not bringing a ton of intangibles, but there aren’t a ton of guys in this league who can score like he can at the age of 22 and who are locked up for four more years at $5.4m.
with MIN Gaborik was pretty remarkably consistent when healthy
But he was remarkably consistently not healthy.
As for your larger point, though, I agree. Guys like Parise bring other things to the table that Kessel can’t match. However, Kessel, like Semin and Gaborik, is capable of scoring no matter what. He’s got the puckhandling, speed, quick release and heavy shot that allow him to score, regardless of who he’s playing with. Guys like that are very, very hard to come by.
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True enough that guys like Kessel don’t just grow on trees. I guess my concern with Kessel isn’t so much his talent level, it’s his reliability. Sure, he has 50 goal potential, but Kessel isn’t even close to being a guy I think you can build a team around. I don’t think you give up two first round picks for a complementary player, no matter how good (and that’s before considering that one of those picks is a lotto pick). Kessel and Semin are elite secondary scorers, not guys you build around. Consistency and intangibles are a big part of that. But you’re right, Kessel will end up around 40 goals every year no matter how he does it.
And of course I agree with Gaborik’s health problems. I only threw that in to point out that I think he’s on a higher level than Kessel or Semin as far as his play goes. His fragile body is a travesty for the entire game.
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Kessel isn’t even close to being a guy I think you can build a team around
Totally agree, but at only $5.4m/year, you don’t have to.
Couldn’t agree more on Gabby; he needs a bionic groin. I will admit, I’m happy to see him play more often, but not happy to see him play more often against the Caps.
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Totally agree, but at only $5.4m/year, you don’t have to.
Right, but my beef isn’t the salary, it was the trade compensation. You don’t give up 2 firsts and a second for a complementary player. Sure, the Leafs could have done better and not been a lotto team, but that doesn’t resolve the problem with me. Even if TOR was mediocre there would be good picks available. I don’t know how deep this draft really is, but the draft is getting deeper and deeper. Consider that Burke is supposed to be a good drafter and it looks even worse. There are too many examples of high quality players being picked between 10-20 in the last several drafts for it to even be worth trying to name players. I’ll take two of those guys over one Kessel.
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Coming back full circle to my belief that the trade was stupid for both parties.
I still think the likelihood of getting someone as good as Kessel from 10-20 is a little lower than you think, but with two shots at it, maybe.
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no argument there
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d trade Semin away for that in a heartbeat.
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right
AWAY, hell yes. But you wouldn’t trade FOR him for that much.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And I think Semin and Kessel are the perfect comparisons. FWIW.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
They are a great comparison. The main difference is that Semin is better than Kessel all around but Kessel is younger and a better skater.
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Kessel is a phenomenal skater. More explosive than Semin, faster, and better balance, IMO.
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I had no idea lol.
Would you give Semin the edge for skating in traffic?
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I dunno. I think Semin’s skating is his biggest weakness as far as skill. His balance isn’t great sometimes.
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I don’t know why, but I’m always shocked how how un-explosive and slow Semin’s skating is. I should know better by now.
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Kessel is ridiculously fast. . . with the puck or without.
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I don’t think they’d get one player better than Kessel, but if they get two players that are 70% of Kessel they probably come out on top. The 2008 draft was so deep it’s not fair to compare, but just for a quick example let’s look at the 11-20 in 2009.
Ryan Ellis, Calvin De Haan, Zach Kassian, Dmitri Kulikov, Peter Holland, Nick Leddy, David Rundblad, Louis Leblanc, Chris Kreider, Jacob Josefson.
There are several pairs of players in there I would take over Kessel. A couple of those guys were probably picked too early (Leblanc, Holland, Leddy, IMO) but that’s still a pretty good group to pick from. (And guys that were available and not picked there were Schroeder, Erixon, Mackan, Caron, Dupres; there was plenty of talent to pick even out of the lotto.)
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You can bring offense without putting the goal in the net, though, (assists, drawing penalties). Watching Semin, we know there are days when he takes 3 offensive zone penalties and days when you wonder why he doesn’t have 5 goals. That’s inconsistency. (See also, Kovalev, with the talent to score 4 in a game and then disappear for three weeks.)
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I thought TO would make the playoffs this year, actually. So you weren’t alone there.
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Eh, if BOS pulls Seguin they might be able to compete again right away. I mostly agree that Chiarelli played it wrong, but I don’t think it was terrible. They couldn’t afford him, and got back a ton of value including a lottery pick. If they come out with Fowler, Seguin, or Hall (and Hall doesn’t bust as I pray he does) then BOS won it in a landslide.
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Of Fowler, Seguin or Hall, do you think any will be as good as Kessel?
It’s also not necessarily all about talent, it’s partly about timing. If one of those three pans out next year, awesome. But after that, the B’s window (for this current iteration) starts to close. The B’s will go from a team built around Chara/Savard to a team build around Wideman/Krejci/etc.
What really kills the B’s in this scenario is that their other high picks (outside of Kessel) haven’t panned out. Neither Hamill nor Marchand has turned into the players they were supposed to. What you see, then, with the B’s is a large gap between the guys like Bergeron, Wideman and Krejci, and the guys they’ll draft this year.
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I don’t think any of them will be a better scorer than Kessel, but I could see Seguin being a better all around player. Fowler is a completely different position so it depends on how you value players and build a team. I think Fowler is a top pair guy for a long time. Do you value a top pair D or a top line W more? Kessel isn’t elite, so it’s not like we’re talking about AO or Kovalchuk compared to a top pair D, either.
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Fowler will def be more valuable than Kessel (contribution wise, not salary) I think he will develop into a bigger Campbell, which is awesome. Great transition game, talent in both ends, and the size to get shit done
Hall is good, i am not positive why u think he’ll bust, but he is defintely the 3rd pick.
If he didn’t have great skills, he could get into the NHL with just his speed. I think he will develop into a very fast skater, he’s got good defensive play and at this point is a better player then Seguin, but is alot further along
Seguin is pretty awesome. He’s got the skills all round, he’s got size and strength, and is still pretty early in his play.
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Fowler looks better in his own end than Campbell.
For the record, I don’t think Hall will bust. I just really want him to. We need a good draft bust and for the first half of the season it looked like Hall was going to CAR so I just started hating on him. Throw in a dash of Team Canada and the recipe was complete.
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Hah, i see. he definitely doesnt have as much upside as the other two, which may end up translating into being not as good relative to Seguin or Fowler
Why do we need a good draft bust?
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I don’t know, it’s just more fun. Puts a little uncertainty into it. Who doesn’t like laughing at Daigle and Stefan?
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Yeah, and BOS drafted Colborne last year (right?) and he’s still at Denver and will probably be there a couple more years.
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Can we keep him? Please?
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by cobracg on Mar 31, 2010 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Brooksie back tomorrow is the best news I’ve heard alldaymonth.
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I wonder what the Caps’ record is when missing certain players?
It could finally settle the “Lebowski Rug” argument.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 31, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Cody Eakin to play tonight
Per John Walton; he signed an amateur tryout contract and will go against Syracuse.
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amateur tryout contract
Huh? Didn’t we sign him to a contract a while back?
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Since (I think) he’s not age-eligible maybe it’s a one-time deal, but yeah, he’s definitely on a pro deal.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
does that contract not kick in until next season, maybe?
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That may be it (hoping sk8 provides a clarification).
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That’s exactly right – he has a pro contract that kicks in July 1, so in order to be under contract for the remainder of this year, he’s on an ATO.
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Think there’ll be a link to that one? I’d be excited to see him play for the 3 minutes he’ll get all game.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 31, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yay, I feel smart for guessing correctly!
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Did anybody else see or hear Eric Fehr on NHL Live this afternoon? Stan Fischler asked him all these questions about tweeting, whether or not “he hates the Pens”, and who’s the biggest chirper on the ice. It was pretty good.
You lost me at Fischler, but I’m sure Fehr could have made it work.
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Did he ask him anything about the team’s attitude about the slump or going into the play-offs?
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He was more interested in like personal interest stuff, but Fehr did bring up the slump and added that they need to put a full 60 together. He also said it’s only a matter of time before OV starts scoring again, not that we didn’t all know that.
Related, but Steckel’s going to be on TheFaaaaan (with Lavar and Holden Kushner) in about 10 minutes.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 31, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
so is Conklin!
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Listening to Stecks talk about the intensity of other teams versus their desire, coupled with pretty much everyone else on the team saying that the other teams want it more, it seems like the whole team is in agreement that no one has really cared these past few games
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I agree, and that’s worrisome. Because if they don’t want it as badly now, maybe they won’t want it as badly as the Bruins in Game 1.
i think they will start to take it seriously in the post-season; however, I have reservations that they won’t be able to immediately play the amazing hockey that this team can produce while playing at full intensity.
I would love to see them win these next 6 games with:
1) a solid win over Pittsburgh (Beating them by 2 goals and allowing 2 max) by playing 60 minutes of hockey.
2) A blowout of CBJ, I dont care if they let up 3 goals, atleast hang 5, 6 or 7 on them and get the offense revved up
3) Solid wins over the Bruins and Thrashers(2-0,2-1,3-0) and atleast 1 blow out
If they did that in these last 6, which i think they could do if they wanted, I would be confident heading into the Play-Offs
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Don't look now....
but Fehr is catching up to Flash in GVT. Which is NOT a rate statistic. Flash has 9.6 and Fehr has 9.2.
Flash has 33% more ice time than Fehr in total on the season. Ridiculous.
It’s at the point where I don’t see how BB can overlook this stuff. No, Fehr is not nearly as pretty as Flash. But he’s so much more effective. Throw in the fact that Fehr can play a checking role and bring some more contributions even when he’s not scoring and it’s not even close. I’d say that GMGM needs to trade Flash and Poti to break BB’s fascination with those guys, but if that’s the case the real solution is “coach has to go.” I’m not there yet, I’m just saying that it’s BB’s job to know that Flash doesn’t deserve those fucking minutes, not GMGM’s job to protect BB from himself.
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try again
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
apologies...still learning
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Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
hmmmm, buried in the weekly planholder update e-mail from the Caps is tyhis:
Guests using foul or abusive language, appearing intoxicated or otherwise displaying disorderly conduct are subject to ejection from Verizon Center. Please contact your nearest usher or the Guest Services locations behind sections 102, 115 or 402 to report such behavior. Innapropriate behavior by anyone using an account holder’s ticket(s) is cause for cancellation of ticket privileges.
In consideration of other Caps fans, please wait for a stoppage in play before leaving or returning to your seats. Also, please avoid obstructing the view of other Caps fans seated behind and around you.
(emphasis mine)
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does “disorderly conduct” include dressing as an astronaut? hope so.
hmm…so if i sell my tickets via the caps ticket exchange, and the guy is an ass hat and gets tossed, somehow i’m responsible? that makes sense. i would hope that provision would be used only in the most extreme circumstances given that the team actively promotes (and profits from) the resale of tickets.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
If you sell your tickets on the ticket exchange, they already have a record that you sold them, and that would make for the easiest clearing of your name I can imagine….
Doesn’t matter if it’s the actual holderof the account or someone else being the a hole, the account holder can have their account cancelled. My point is that by using their exchange they are facilitating th annonymous transfer of tickets and to hold me accountable for the actions of others in that situation is weak.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 8:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Must be a new policy, as they didn’t do a fucking thing when me, two girls in front of me, and a guy at the end of the row all complained about the drunken nightmare of a group that was seated next to us at the last game I went to.
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Innapropriate behavior by anyone using an account holder’s ticket(s) is cause for cancellation of ticket privileges.
This was in bold in the e-mail.
Message to the guy who bought my tickets for tomorrow. :-)
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So 2 years in a row a Predators forward prospect makes the Hobey Baker finalists. Last year Colin Wilson of BU, this year Blake Geoffrion of ‘sconsin. He’s from Middle Tennessee.
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can i guess what Blake Geoffrion’s nickname is?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We haven’t given him one yet.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
do you think Boom-Boom might be appropriate?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
any relation to the habs bernie geffrion…the original boom boom?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely not. That’s ridiculous. You don’t give the dad’s nickname to the son.
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Or grandfather’s in this case.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
something tells me that its gonna happen, right or wrong. just a classic nickname.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 31, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
AHL ALL ROOKIE TEAM
2009-10 AHL All-Rookie Team
Goaltender: Alex Stalock, Worcester Sharks (56gp, 37-16-2, 2.63gaa, .908sv%, 3so)
Defenseman: John Carlson, Hershey Bears (48gp, 4+35=39pts., 37)
Defenseman: P.K. Subban, Hamilton Bulldogs (71gp, 1834=52pts., 43)
Forward: Logan Couture, Worcester Sharks (42gp, 2033=53pts.)
Forward: Lars Eller, Peoria Rivermen (66gp, 16+37=53pts.)
Forward: Tyler Ennis, Portland Pirates (69gp, 23+42=65pts.)
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Holtby was roooooobbed!
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SO WAS COLIN WILSON
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Hi there
I don’t know what Wilson’s numbers in the AHL were, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he was robbed. He’s been playing great with NSH so far.
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It was mostly snark.
/checks AHL stats just in case
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He had 35 points in 40 gp. The first ten games he was pretty hurt.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I went into this article thinking the secondary assist knock would be the most worthless part of it. I was wrong. Seriously, how do you hold down a legitimate NHL journalism job with this kind of crap? This is one of the worst reasoned articles I have ever read.
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hahahahahaha, shootout goals? wtf.
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So ridiculous. Worst. Argument. Ever. First off, in a 2-0 shootout win, who gets the deciding goal? The guy that scores first? Second off, AO didn’t score the deciding goal in the SO against PIT, but if he doesn’t score the game is over. Every single SO attempt counts equally. There are no “GWG SOGs.” It just doesn’t make sense. If you take out the “GWG SOGs” then AO’s game-determining-points number is better than Sids. Total logic fail.
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Although I think Sedin benefits greatly with the 2ndary assists, it’s impossible to really discern between ‘important’ 2ndary assists then ‘non-important’.
I’ve seen Sedin dish a pass to Burrows, who carries the puck all the way into the O zone, who then makes a beautiful pass to Daniel, who scores. In that case, Henrik doesn’t rly deserve another point.
But i’ve also seen Sedin make some ridiculous behind the back pass to Daniel, who dishes it to Burrows, who buries it past the totally out-of-place goalie.
The stat-keepers already mess up the hits and SOG enough for me to not want them to have to keep track of what assists matter, and which don’t. Even if you made Toronto discern the merit of 2ndary assists, there would be huge disagreements between what was a good assist, and which wasnt. . .
I know that wasn’t what you were talking about rly. . .but i had to get that off my chest
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I agree with you. Some are good, some aren’t. But that’s the same with anything. Some primary assists aren’t that important; it is a result of an individual effort not a great pass. Some goals are pucks that bounce off a guy in front or a goalie totally botches. You can’t say the goal scorer always made a good play. But as long as the NHL counts 2 assists, you just have to accept it as part of the total. Unless you want to go through the season and code every goal you don’t have any other option. I can buy goals being more important than assists, but trying to parse primary and secondary assists doesn’t make any sense to me.
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For sure, although it is somewhat frustrating that Sedin is ahead of Ovie because of so many 2nday assits, it is just the way it is.
Sedin having so many 2ndary assists kind of shows that a large portion of Vancouver’s offense activates because of him. . .gotta get rdy for a potential SCF meeting.. .
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Unless you’re commenting via mobile phone, could you please try to use English and not text-speak?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
where’s that damn Admiral Akbar photo when I need it?
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shootout goals?!
lulz! I, like CP2 was planning on not reading that hack anymore.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the part where he intimates that the Sedins suck at the shootout and uses the fact that their coach hasn’t used them as evidence. You can’t prove they don’t suck, so they suck!
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I don’t know who VAN does use, but maybe (just maybe) they have a couple guys that are specialists. Equating the Shoot out with real hockey is one of the most ignorant mistakes you can make. How can a guy paid to cover the sport fall for that?
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I think they use Mason Raymond, Kesler, and maybe Samuelsson but I’m not sure. Demitra probably, too.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
/face palm
I even know better than that. I don’t even think there’s a logical fallacy in existence for that level of stupidity.
My favorite is where he says they COULD be all secondary assists; but we don’t know…….but he goes on acting as if we do know that they were all secondary assists.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Finally a use for shootout GVT. It’s inexact, but gives you a rough idea of who is getting used by Vancouver.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
So is VAN just bad at the SO? Doesn’t look like they get a ton of contribution and Luongo is a negative GVTSO.
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At least the THN commenters did a pretty good job dismantling that hack job though.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 31, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Best part?
The problem with assists is you can look at the totals and never really know how much that player had to do with goals actually being scored. With goals, whether it’s an empty-netter, tip-in or a spectacular deke on a breakaway, there is tangible evidence the player in question was pivotal to the play.
What about guys whose entire career consisted of nothing but shoveling other guys’ rebounds? Is Tomas Holmstrom really a better hockey player than Lidstrom or Rafalski? He scores way more goals/game than Zetterberg or Datsyuk. Is he better than them, too?
There’s some merit to the argument that goals are inherently more valuable than assists, but not the way this ass-hat makes it.
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Agreed. Goals are inherently more valuable because a) that’s the point of the game and the single hardest thing to do in the NHL; and b) because there are ~1.7 assists per goal so just in a straight numerical comparison the goals are more valuable. Not because of “tangible evidence the player in question was pivotal in the play.” Everyone remember Vinny Lecavalier ducking away from the puck and scoring a goal on a shot headed 10 feet wide? You could argue nobody on TBL deserved a point on that play, but it was the GWG.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m going to have to keep my private thoughts to myself on this one so as not to offend… everyone.
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Thats why I posted it :(.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s some good stuff in there.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 31, 2010 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I love FTF, that is some great stuff. I’ll definitely take a look at that later.
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the Tootoo-Staubitz video. But you knew that.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps Prospect for say 2020?
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Friend has some good connections, posted this on another forum:
Things got heated at practice today. Bouds apparently threw a chair during the team meeting. He called out Ovechkin specifically for not leading the time, and called their fire into question. Ovie apparently left the room for a few minutes, came back, and then went on his own diatribe, apologizing to the coach and his teammates. They worked penalty killing for nearly an hour. Interesting side to that, of 20 shots taken on goal during that time period, 19 were stopped. By Seymon Varlamov…
/Eklund’d?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope he didn’t call out Ovie. . .the guy has been working his ass off to try to put goals up.
If anybody, he needs to get pissed off at the rest of the team for playing without any intensity and playing undisciplined (not penalties but more basics) hockey.
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It comes with the territory of being Captain
As Captain, you’re responsible more than anyone else on the team for its good and bad results. Fair or not.
Ovie wants to be called out when the team is not playing well. Didn’t you read that part?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I guess. . .i mean BB getting on the team is a good thing in its own right; however, I think his judgement would be better placed on the players who are really messing up
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If it is true, though, imagine how ashamed you’d be if you were someone like Flash and you saw Ovie getting reamed when he’s playing so much better than you are.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Additionally, it’s good for the rest of the team to see that Ovechkin can get yelled at, and to see how he responds to it. I remember a comment from BB last year that basically amounted to “Tom Poti doesn’t know that when I say he’s doing a bad job, I mean that he is actually playing like shit.” If Ovi’s able to take responsibility for his bad play (relatively – obviously he’s still Alex Ovechkin) then what can the Tomas Fleischmanns of the world say to that?
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.
What makes you think Ovie hasn’t taken responsibility already?
Just because Poti doesn’t understand, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t keep telling him he is playing horribly, maybe he will figure it out in his own way.
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I didn’t mean to suggest that Ovechkin doesn’t take responsibility in general. I think he does, and that he takes it personally when the team doesn’t play well. I also don’t mean, “yell at Ovi because Poti isn’t playing well, meanwhile Ovi is on a career-great tear.” I just don’t think that’s where the team is right now. When Ovi’s at his best, he puts up more than 4 goals in 15 games. Likewise, when this team is at its best, they don’t lose 3 out of 4 games. So BB should keep trying to fire them up to make them get that the way they’re playing right now just isn’t ok.
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.
For sure, hopefully this rumor is true, and the team steps up their game
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They were scheduled to have a closed practice at the verizon center today because they were taking team pictures (per Brian McNally’s sidebar in yesterday’s Washington Examiner).
I think they need more closed practices. It’s got to be hard to work in a fishbowl all the time. And I said more, not all, or even a lot. But sometimes chairs need to be thrown, and words exchanged.
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I don’t know if I’m buying this, especially the part about working on the PK. According to Caps insider, not many people practiced after the team photo was taken.
Alex Ovechkin isn’t practicing today at Verizon Center, swapping out his red Caps sweater for some very ripped jeans and a sweatshirt after the Caps took their team photo. John Carlson, Eric Belanger, Alexander Semin, Tom Poti and Coach Bruce Boudreau took the day off as well. So yes, you could call today’s practice optional.
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Eklund is notorious for uninformed and unfounded trade rumors.
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They don’t have to be trade rumors, mind you.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Word
Although I could see this being unfounded, obviously, would it really hit you as being uninformed?
Sounds like it would be in character for all parties considered. Even the bit about Varly, given Gabby’s history for having a quick hook with Theodore.
I wasn’t calling it into question, just explaining the Eklund thing. CB may have been joking but he needs to answer that.
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I was sort of joking. Color me strange, but I’m not a huge fan of dropping “I have this friend behind the scenes who said this”. You’re certainly welcome to saying it, I just don’t lean towards believing it. No big deal, and the “/Eklund’d?” was a lame way of saying I wasn’t sure I bought that.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
No doubt.
It’s a rumor, nothing more.
However, I am inclined to reading everything about the team, not limiting myself to believing only what’s released. Having covered a team before, I’m well aware of the agreements reporters have with coaches and teams regarding what can be published and cannot.
no doubt
But you have to take your rumor especially in light of the notion that Gabby AND OV took the day off immediately following the team photo. Anyway, no big deal.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you, just didn’t want to speak for you.
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lol, don’t hesitate. I trust you; we tend to be on the same side of things, typically. Besides, you’re like Fox News! Who wouldn’t trust you?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Yay for successful prospects everywhere. Except Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh, and Philly.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 31, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re on the same page as many Caps fans, in disliking Pittsburgh and Philly. And Caps fans were certainly disliking the Blue Jackets starting on Nov 1, 2009.
I don’t dislike Detroit particularly even though I’d be just as happy if someone else won the West this year for a change. (Chicago’s been hating on hating on us as of late so I’m annoyed and don’t feel bad if they lose.)
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Hot damn. Good for him. He better enjoy it now because he still has another full year of Juniors left. Any bets on whether he plays Team Canada WJC in 2011?
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After a while – I’m sure at first it’s a little intimidating. Especially if you’re afraid of coming in and screwing up a quasi-perfect season.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’m sure it’s awesome after the goal. But he’s also a smaller guy and he knows he’s going above his head physically. You hear about it being faster and stronger so you are going to worry more if you are smaller than if you’re a big guy in Juniors.
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Right, so he’s going to be WJC eligible and can’t play pro unless it’s the NHL. He’ll be in Swift Current next year… until they trade him.
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