Saturday Caps Clips: Jose Theodore - Still Gaining Acceptance
by J.P. on Mar 27, 2010 5:15 AM EDT
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- Don't forget to tune in for the debut of Japers' Rink Radio at 10:00 Eastern this morning. Break a leg, Pepper.
- Jose Theodore may just be good enough after all. Who knew? (I mean, besides anyone paying even the slightest bit of attention.) [The Hockey News]
- Who's got Hart? [Puck Daddy]
- Bruce Boudreau's scoreboard watching. [WaPo]
- Ed Frankovic's 30 Thoughts. Nice. [EFB]
- A look at the trio who sit atop the League in goal-scoring. [NHL.com, FanHouse]
- A rundown of some of history's more memorable 50-goal seasons, including one from you-know-who (with a little extra thrown in for good measure). [ESPN]
- Noted hockey expert Kevin Smith on why he'd rather his Devils face the Pens than the Caps in the playoffs: "Washington has a little more blood-lust in their eye about the whole thing.... If I'm going to face down my death I want it to be quick and painless and not brutal and savage." [NHL.com]
- Manny Legace and Jim Rutherford seem to think that Alex Ovechkin may have run afoul of the League's new rule on headshots when the Caps' captain bumped the 'Canes netminder on Thursday night. Good one. [Canes Now]
- Might Ted Leonsis's purchase of the Wizards have significant ramifications with respect to the NHL's salary cap? [Forbes]
- The players' votes are in and they've voted overwhelmingly for AO as the League's best player. They also have him as the third-dirtiest guy in the League, which is just insanity. [the CAPS lock, TSN]
- If I had a nickel for every article of clothing featured in this post that I'd be willing to be seen wearing in public, I'd have five cents. Maybe ten. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- The Caps and overtimes: not the best of friends. [RtR]
- Boyd Gordon takes a lot more than he gives when it comes to hitting. [BtN]
- Finally, per the HHoF, on this date back in 1992, "Kelly Miller had two goals and two assists for the first four point game of his eight year NHL career, to lead the Capitals to a 4-3 win over the Canadiens in Washington. Mike Ridley also contributed with a goal and three assists."
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If I had a nickel for every article of clothing featured in this post that I’d be willing to be seen wearing in public, I’d have five cents. Maybe ten.
You have the penguin suit right?
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by Ovechwin on Mar 27, 2010 5:28 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
That’s one of our own if I’m not mistaken!
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If it is one of our own… (wow 4 “o” words in a row) .. I met him at the caps convention waiting for the equipment sale to open. Really cool guy who helped me out making sure I didn’t get run over cause I had just had my surgery.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
One of our own, but not Scott in Shaw (who also has a JC sweater).
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Truth.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 27, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah it’s pretty sweet. I don’t get why it was added in a post of “weird” Capitals customizations.
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Maybe because it isn’t red? This would be the only reason I wouldn’t wear one to a Caps game.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 27, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
That hockey news piece on Theo is what you call “hedging”. If the Caps win it all, he can say “see, I thought it was possible.” But by no means did he just say Theo is an asset or advantage over Huet, Nabby, etc… Look for more of the same in coming weeks.
by marks4java on Mar 27, 2010 7:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I don’t understand that Forbes piece. If the Caps aren’t getting money from suites and club seats, how is that “hiding revenue”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 27, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions
I have the same question. Further, if Ted were using that to hide revenue, why would he bid on the Wizards and VC in the first place?
That article perplexes me.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 9:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Quick thoughts from someone who admittedly knows nothing about this.
1. Does the NHL consider the Washington Capitals owned by Ted Leonsis and Washington Sports and Entertainment, owned 44% (soon to be 100%) by Ted Leonsis as 2 different entities?
2. Will that distinction continue after Ted buys WSE?
3. Did WSE get the revenue from those seats and boxes, or did Abe directly? If it was Abe, does that money now revert to the Capitals or to WSE?
This could be how this guy is accusing them of hiding revenue. If Ted gets 44% of that money as an owner of WSE, but it doesn’t get counted towards the Capitals organization, I can see the problem. Especially if that will continue in the future with him now gaining 100% of that revenue if it is still considered WSE money instead of the Capitals.
But I’m just guessing here. Either way, that was a terribly written article that didn’t even bother to explain things to someone who isn’t intimately knowledgeable with the situation, which I would have to think most Forbes readers are not.
by HateOffSeason on Mar 27, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
1. I’m pretty sure (don’t know) that this is the case. If nothing else, this introductory graph would sum it up from the VC site:
Washington Sports & Entertainment, L.P. is a multi-faceted organization managing sports and entertainment events, a professional sports team and two arenas. Based in Washington, D.C., WSELP consists of five major divisions: the Washington Wizards of the NBA; Verizon Center, the state-of-the-art, 20,000-seat sports and entertainment facility located in Washington, D.C.; Ticketmaster, the Washington-Baltimore ticketing service; Musicentre Productions, an in-house concert promoter; and the management division which oversees The George Mason University Patriot Center in Fairfax, VA.
3. WS&E would get that money and would (presumably) still get that money once the deal’s been finalized.
2 is the tough part. If he takes over WS&E then there’d have to be some restructuring to make the Caps part of it, so they could get some of that revenue. Or maybe they keep them out of it, because WS&E would get that money and Ted can use it on the back end somehow.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 27, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty sure Ticketmaster is franchised, and Ted just gets the local one.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Mar 27, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Quite unclear, but I think he’s implying that teams could “hide” revenue by attributing certain revenue streams to entities other than the hockey teams and thus keep the cap artificially low.
In this case, the example would be WSE/Lincoln Holdings buying the arena and the revenue from the club seats stays under the previous arrangement, i.e. it goes to the arena and not the hockey team. Therefore the Caps’ revenue doesn’t increase a penny on the books, but the ownership’s revenue increases dramatically.
It’s a really poorly written blurb, but that’s my best guess as to the what it meant.
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Let me see if I can handle the accounting speak, in layman’s terms, as JP says above.
It’s very common to have separate entites for every business operation an owner has. For example, Lincoln Holdings is Ted’s umbrella organization, but I think the Caps are Lincoln Hockey, and the Mystics are a separate entity. One of the other things that allows is that a different person can be President of the team/other business, while Ted is still the head honcho of the whole deal.
So, if Lincoln Arena owns Verizon Center, it can charge the other entities for the use, as the Caps pay WS&E now. That “hides” the revenue from the club seats and concession licenses, etc. If I’m reviewing the records for purposes of determining hockey revenue, I’d insist on seeing that revenue stream allocated between the arena activites when there is common ownership, so in that regard, it does affect DC hockey revenues. It should have no effect on the NHL otherwise, unless of course it’s been ignored in towns where the relationship already exists.
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Its been a while since I’ve needed to understand the finer points of financial accounting and reporting, so take this with a grain of salt:
GAAP provide that two entities should be consolidated for financial statement purposes when one company owns a controlling stake in the other. In the case of WSE, Lincoln Holdings had a non-controlling stake under the current arrangement (they held a 44% interest). If Lincoln Holdings buys out the Pollin estate, they’ll have 100% ownership (and thus, will control the entire entity, which would require consolidation).
In essence, since Ted lacked sufficient control of WSE to control the revenue stream, this was probably excluded from the Caps net income figures. If at some point in the future, the deal gets inked, and Ted buys the rest of WSE, that will no longer be the case.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 27, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
We really need to have our own thread for this minutiae. :-)
You’re not wrong, but I’m laying it out for the non-accountants. And I’m not an attorney, but there are legal reasons for having separate legal entities own each operation, particularly if you don’t want the league to know your non-hockey business, and why should you? If he owns the Wiz and the Caps, Wiz revenues are irrelevant. Ticketmaster revenues are irrelevant. The arena is relevant, but only 41 nights per year. Well, plus pre-season and playoff nights, but the point remains that it’s not 100% of the arena revenue.
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Don’t potential owners have to self-report on all of their income in order to buy a team, though? I also seem to remember some sort of morality clause. The NHL can kick you out if they want, no? Like how the bank can ask for my pay stubs before they give me a loan.
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We totally need an accounting nerds section of the site.
I agree with your analysis pretty much 100%. I can’t say for certain what the NHLPA has been provided in terms of numbers for the Caps, Lincoln Holdings may have allocated some of their revenue from Verizon to the Caps, I can’t say either way.
Certainly, if all the income is flowing into WSE for tickets and luxury boxes, and WSE is 100% owned by Lincoln, which 100% owns the Caps, a portion of that income should be allocated to the Caps P&L (though, I’m not sure what basis is most appropriate).
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by iwearstripes on Mar 27, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Hitting two birds with one stone: I don’t follow the acquisition process, but I think the league is concerned with a buyers assets more than income when buying a team, because they want to know that you can complete the purchase and fund any losses along the way.
As to consolidated information, I think from a logical standpoint, not an accounting one, the league should get to see the hockey operations entity, and is entitled to see the arena entity, and make the percentage calculation of hockey related revenues accordingly.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
It’s just a guy not doing his homework. While the Caps don’t see any of the revenue from the club seats and suites, neither do the Bullets.
Because Ted has stated it over and over again it should be common knowledge that the revenue from the club seats and suites is dedicated to paying off the loans Polin took out in order to build the arena. Unless those loans have been paid off (unlikely) or Ted restructures them after taking control (unlikely) the arrangement will remain the same.
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Have to disagree completely here. Just because they say this doesn’t make it so.
Verizon Center, then MCI, was built by an owner of sports teams to be a sports arena. Therefore any revenue generated is income to the teams, even if it is earmarked to pay off debts.
Just because you designate part of your paycheck to pay the mortgage on your house, doesn’t mean you didn’t make that money. I’d like to see that argument with the IRS.
by HateOffSeason on Mar 27, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. WSE would be able to deduct interest on the loans, and depreciation on the building, but principal payments on loans aren’t an expense at all. Principal payments are a reallocation of assets from cash to real estate. A principal payment on a loan has no income statement impact on a financial statement, its a pure balance sheet transaction.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 27, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
But remember the way the whole thing is structured. All of the tenants of the building, Caps, Bullets, Whats?, and Mistakes all pay rent to use the building, even when Abe owned the Caps, Bullets, and Mistakes.
When Abe spun off the Caps over to Ted, the owner/tenant relationship became clearly defined and there is no doubt that the revenue access was clearly defined in the rental agreement.
If you want to get downright technical about it, because Lincoln Holdings currently has 44% of the revenue from the suites and club seats, it should be counted towards the Caps revenues. But I highly doubt that is the case.
Most likely what is going on and will continue is that the teams (Caps, Bullets, and Mistakes) will operate as separate entities under Lincoln Holdings, paying rent to another entity, the Verizon Center as they did when they were all under WS&E.
Finally, this whole arrangement isn’t done to hide $$$$$ from the players, it is done to keep it away from the IRS.
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The Forbes guy didn’t do his homework. It has been public knowledge for years that the Caps don’t get money from those revenue streams. Ted himself has even referenced it.
There are a number of reasons ownership structures are done. The most obvious is tax reasons. However, there are liability, finance (bankers), and league issues as well depending on the situation. In addition, WS&E and its holdings complicate matters more many other ownership situations.
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Noted hockey expert Kevin Smith on why he’d rather his Devils face the Caps than the Pens in the playoffs
Smith actually said that if he had to choose between the Caps and Pens, he’d rather have the Devils face the Pens: “If I have to pick the two, I go Penguins — not because the Penguins will be easier. If I’m going to face down my death I want it to be quick and painless and not brutal and savage.”
Fail. Of course that’s what he said. Corrected.
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As much as I love Ovechkin, I find it hard to argue with Gretzky’s assessment that Bryzgalov is the one most deserving of the Hart this year. That’s not saying that Ovy hasn’t had another truly remarkable season, because he obviously has. I find the notion of discounting him simply because the Caps can play without him or because of his game misconducts a bit ridiculous. However, I simply cannot argue against the merits of Bryz who has helped possibly resurrect a franchise, which seemed all but dead. If that doesn’t spell MVP, I don’t know what does.
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I simply cannot argue against the merits of Bryz who has helped possibly resurrect a franchise, which seemed all but dead. If that doesn’t spell MVP, I don’t know what does.
It’s a valid argument. Substitute Ovechkin for Bryz and 2008 for 2010. It probably doesn’t happen, though.
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Is it ironic that Gretzky’s arguing that Bryz is the difference maker, when the obvious difference maker is how horrible a coach he was and how great a coach Tippett is?
by brs03 on Mar 27, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shhhhhh. Don’t tell him.
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Sorry, but its Miller. I love Bryz, but Miller’s numbers are better on a worse team.
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Seconded. (But I’m thrilled there’s two goalies in the conversation and no one here has discounted them yet on just that basis.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 27, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Bryz has been a notch lower than Miller this year, so I can’t buy the they cancel each other out thing.
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I meant the argument that goalies shouldn’t even be eligible for Hart because the Vezina is just for them. That’s the one I really don’t buy. I’m completely on board for Miller.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 27, 2010 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Rutherford isn’t going to complain to the league. He’s going to do worse and bitch to the media and act like he’s innocent.
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by Hang a Laingtern on Your Problems on Mar 27, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
NHL Confidential according to ESPN...
Best Players? Ovi 46% tops the list. When only given a choice between Ovi and Crosby, Ovi gets 73% of that vote. Most Overrated? Luongo 6%.
Best Franchise? Detroit 60%. Worst? Phoenix 28%.
Smartest Coach? Babcock 22%, Boudreau 16%.
Should the NHL contract teams? 38% Yes.
What team has the best ice? Edmonton 28% Montreal 24%. Worst? Florida 24%
Top Referee? Kerry Fraser 26%. Worst Ref? Stephane Auger 20%
Best Visitor locker room? Minnesota 42%. Worst? Pittsburgh 62%
Best groupies? Montreal 42%
Best Pugilist? Derek Boogaard 46%. Rick Rypien 20%. Worst? Steckel 97%
Dirtiest Player? Pronger 22% Avery 12%… Ovechkin + Ott 10%…
Hottest spouse? Fisher (Underwood (Yawn))
Do you have gay teammates? 42% yep! “They go after girls but prefer guys”
Grade Bettman (A thru F) on his handling of the NHL… Bettmans GPA? 1.88.
Smartest Fans? Calgary 32%… Meanest fans? Philly 42% Duh…
PED’s in the locker room? 76% No.
Goalie pads too big? 62% No.
Have you been approached to fix a game? 100% No.
NHL players missing a lot of teeth? Scott Walker says no.
What 1 thing could help increase hockey’s popularity? Hard Knocks, NHL style.
Who will win the SC? Sharks & Caps 16%… Penguins 18%… Blackhawks 32%…
4th Floor, is next, swimvare, undervare, Eric Fehr...
While I don’t disagree with the categorization of Steckel as not good at fighting. He’s not a pugilist.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 27, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
that’s awesome that 42% think they have a gay teammate (and are, presumably, not too freaked out about it)—Brendan Burke lives!
by bilspacecadet on Mar 27, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
sample size used for survey: 50 players
which means it only needed 3 players to say Luongo was overrated for that to be the highest….
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well, it’s a little annoying how lots of canucks haters are bringing it up….
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It was in the article, and he pretty much quoted the entire thing.
But I can buy being annoyed by it. I also think Luongo is the best goalie in the NHL, but I can imagine a few teams/players/fans tired of hearing it.
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I also think Luongo is the best goalie in the NHL
Might I suggest a trip to your eye care professional. I believe your vision is in need of correction.
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Funny, considering my eyes are as fucked as they are.
But seriously, I can’t name anyone that much stronger, and I’m not going to point at stats. That team is Luongo and two Sedins, and the rest of it is kind of eh.
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Good players, but the fact is, it’s Luongo and a decent offense, mediocre defense(hit by injuries, other wise would be average).
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But then again, with how good all three are. . .I think their supporting cast is enough for a good chance in the play offs.
Losing Alfredsson certainly hurt.
Burrows is a good player, but it kind of a bitch (even more so than crosby) and benefits from residual wonder-twin ESP.
Kesler is the man, sry, i think he is a great player.
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Alfredsson???
we have Samuelsson, who is starting to skate again.
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Yeah, but the only team that relies on one player more than Vancouver does to Luongo is the Rangers reliance on Lundqvist, and Luongo is better than Lundqvist. If Luongo gets hurt, the Canucks are done. Lalime is decent, and the Panthers aren’t in it anyway.
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nah, we got raycroft now. he’s a much better backup than all the mediocrity we had to deal with last year (sanford, schneider, labarbera)
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I like you ’Nucks folks, but being proud that you have Raycroft as a back up plan is hilarious.
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well, truth be told, he has actually done really well this year. his only couple bad games were when the rest of the team let him hang out to dry.
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missy is right. Raycroft has played well as a backup this season for the ’Nucks.
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In the end its still Raycroft, who get this—once backed up Vesa Toskala.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Discussion is good, dismissal via lololololol is for chatrooms.
You’ve got some good points and I know you’re more articulate than that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if it was, that’s not the way to respond to it.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, the rangers depend on Lundy so much because they have a less than stellar defense and an ok offense. If he doensn’t make saves, they lose. . .simple as that usually.
Vancouver has a stellar offense and a much better defense (relative to the rangers). If Luongo is going porous, they still have the ability to win games. They do not live and die by Luongo as the Rangers do Lundqvist
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by kingzman264 on Mar 27, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ll agree to disagree on whether or not Vancouver’s offense is stellar.
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well, it does help having the league’s 2nd-highest goals for per game…
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So you’re arguing Luongo isn’t overrated, but that the team doesn’t need him that much. lol.
Seriously, all I’m saying is I think Luongo is the best goalie in the NHL. I’m not saying Miller sucks, or Vokoun sucks, but I do think the Canucks offense won’t put up the numbers it currently is during the postseason, and I don’t think their defense is as strong as in previous years.
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Canucks have scored 37 goals more the Sabres. As a matter of fact as missy stated the only team with more goals than the Canucks are the Caps.
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he does have a point though. these numbers mean nothing in the playoffs.
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Once again I bring up Ryan Miller. Where would that team be without him?
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Probably in the playoffs still because the Eastern Conference is 2 strong teams, a 5-6 average ones, and then a ton of awful.
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I don’t think Burrows is that good. I could score at least ten by putting my stick on the ice with Henrik and Daniel.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
That team is Luongo and two Sedins, and the rest of it is kind of eh.
yeah, and the caps are all Ovechkin.
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Honestly, the Mage’s statement is a far cry from this statement. The Canucks are much more “all Sedins and Luongo” than the Caps are “all Ovechkin”. All you have to do is run the Caps’ numbers minus Ovie, and the Nucks’ numbers minus Henrik or Daniel.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess the sarcasm wasn’t noticed….
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It was- I’m pointing out that there is some validity to WM’s statement. Vancouver rides the Sedins tons harder than Washington does Vancouver. I don’t see any Semins, Backstroms, or Greens on your roster.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
erm
Should be than “Washington does Ovechkin”
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ryan Kesler and Erhoff aren’t in the same category of Baks or Green, but they aren’t nothing either. Kesler is a Selke candidate in my mind.
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Totally agree, I like (and love in one case) Kesler and Ehrhoff. But Vancouver’s support staff doesn’t hold a candle to Semin/Backstrom/Green/Laich/Knuble.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
But seriously, I can’t name anyone that much stronger, and I’m not going to point at stats.
I can name a bunch for you, but for arguments sake I’ll name the two best and that is MIller & Vokoun. Both of whom are better and play on teams with less talent than the Canucks have.
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But he does have the BEST goalie nickname ever: The Wall of Luongo
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That is not even the best wall nickname. ’Bulin Wall is better.
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I disagree. Ryan Miller has a current love-fest going for his Olympic performance and is having a good season, and I’d rate Vokoun number 2.
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Has nothing to with the Olympics. Look at what he’s done the last 2 seasons playing with much less talent than Luongo has on his team.
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He makes saves that aren’t that hard to make. Not buying Miller as better than Luongo.
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No, he just makes them look easier because he’s in better position.
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Oh yeah, Vokoun is definitely over Luongo and Miller.
Vokoun>Luongo>Miller
Don’t know where Lundy fits in there, or Brodeur for that atter
Miller’s team is oriented towards not letting in goals or letting shots go through (even though sometimes they dont do that)
Vokoun’s team is oriented towards . . .well. . .surviving
and Luongo has a supporting cast head and shoulders above the other teams
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I do not hate Luongo or the Nuck’s. Just quoting the article.
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Since theres no Caps game tonight, I encourage you Center Ice-rs to check out one of the better rivalries in today’s NHL tonight. The Wings have 89 points; Nashville with 91— the Bridge is going to be hopping and these two teams despise each other. Its a de facto playoff game; if the Wings win, they’ll take over some tiebreakers and be in the drivers seat for fifth. Nashville wins, we can look forward instead of backwards. Should be awesome. Jason Arnott and Joel Ward are questionable, Pekka Rinne in net.
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Seriously cannot believe the Wings are that close to fifth.
I mean, I can, because it’s the Wings, but seriously, I can still remember when they were 10th or 11th. Wasn’t all that long ago, either.
yeah, the wings are superhot right now. getting a little scary too….
CBC has a pretty good double-header tonight. first game is leafs and rangers (yes phaneuf vs avery), second game is canucks and sharks (ooh look, two teams in the top of the western conference facing each other! be afraid!)
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I saw a commercial for another CI preview, anyone know about this? I’d love to watch that game.
by hockeyman33 on Mar 27, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Hadn’t heard; but you can always look for streams…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
TEB sez BMo left practice early. That would leave us a little thin @ center.
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Ya I wouldn’t like that, that puts Flash back at center and is even more rough with gordo still out with his wonky back.
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And Brooks is skating but not with the team :(
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Lines at practice, per TEB
Ovechkin-Backstrom-Knuble
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(Pretty sure he means Laing at 4L. And Walker is ready to play again? Yay.)
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Fehr at 2L?! uhhhh……
but yay for promotion?
I’m not even sure I like that third line…
I hope BMo’s okay..
Also a little thin: the Penguins. Whatever kept Gonchar out of the Caps’ game, is keeping him out vs. the Flyers too. And Brent Johnson ill as well.
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Anyone else going to see Mike Green at Giant?
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OK, wow. Line was so long (like halfway around the building long) I didn’t even get out of the car and went home. Good sign for the Caps’ popularity, though.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Well perhaps this is just a trick!
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oh, so that’s what he was talking about!
he was tweeting a lot this morning saying he was stuck in traffic.
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It was a little ambitious to say he could practice in Arlington then be in Columbia by noon.
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Definitely! We were all wondering how he was going to do that!
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Guess his new flying car was in the shop…
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Two bits of bad news from TEB
I’m hearing Brendan Morrison “tweaked” something in his lower body. Might not play tomorrow.
Shaone Morrisonn missed practice today, too. Had four wisdom teeth pulled and might miss tomorrow’s game.
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Sorry about Shaone but wisdom teeth happen and the Caps D can get by without him for one game. The wing situation is a little worrisome though.
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Shoulda said forward situation, sorry.
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I can’t believe the wisdom teeth couldn’t wait until June. It’s suddenly an emergency?
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I thought this, too. They must have been seriously impacted for them not to wait until the end of the season. Or it was such a simple procedure that he’ll be back tomorrow. Who knows!
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I’m guessing he was probably experiencing a little pain if they were impacted. It’s a simple extraction. He’ll probably sit tomorrow, but that is probably it. Rather him do it now and get it over with than wait and its gets really painful during then playoffs.
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Not to aruge, because obviously it needed doing now, but it’s unusual that he’s 27 and it became a problem.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I know people who didn’t have them out until even later than that. Lots of times people wait until they have pain or other issues related to them. I’m not sure what the big deal is period. It’s a minor procedure and the Caps can easily afford for him to miss a game or two.
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OT but sort of interesting and I haven’t seen it mentioned anywhere else. I was watching the Ottawa/Buffalo game last night and during one of the intermissions, they mentioned that Crosby’s SO goal against the Caps should not have counted because it hit the post first.
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Here’s the video of the SO in HD. Analyze away!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Y8D_Qsou_E&playnext_from=TL&videos=q-waBFelCYQ&playnext=1
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I honestly can’t tell, but we won, so it doesn’t matter. I wonder if it’s clearer on the Penguins feed.
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Probably. But if it shows that it shouldn’t count, it won’t be making it to Toronto.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 27, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree, you can’t really tell by watching the video because it happens so fast but TSN showed it in slow motion and it clearly hits the post first and Crosby taps in the rebound. They said they only noticed it after watching it like 60 times so you can’t expect the officials to catch something like that and it doesn’t really matter because we won anyway but I thought it was interesting that TSN brought it up anyways.
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by CapsFan2020 on Mar 27, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW, a blood drive report — Caps are planning a festival out in Dulles/Sterling July 24th with a blood drive. Maybe a member of the team will be there, but no promises.
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with a big shiny trophy….
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You don’t think the Canucks are contenders, do you? I can’t see them going anywhere with that blueline. You need balance like Chicago to win Cups.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
GA/G
Chicago: 2.48 (6th in league)
Vancouver: 2.54 (9th in league)
hmm….
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Luongo’s better than Huet and Niemi combined. That will drop your GAA in a hurry.
Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Kim Johnsson, Brent Sopel, Nick Hjalmarsson, and Brian Campbell if they advance far enough is significantly better than Bieksa, Mitchell, Salo, Aaron Rome (lol), and whoever else you’re employing.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
mitchell is still injured. we’re not sure if he’ll even return for the playoffs. that’s the only reason why our 7th d-man rome is getting time right now.), o’brien (who has been playing amazingly lately) and edler (who is a staple in our d-corp)
-alberts was a fail of a pickup
-bieksa is still trying to find his game
-you forgot ehrhoff (who is 3rd among d-man for +/
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why the hell did that all strike out??
-mitchell is still injured. we’re not sure if he’ll even return for the playoffs. that’s the only reason why our 7th d-man rome is getting time right now.
-alberts was a fail of a pickup
-bieksa is still trying to find his game
-you forgot ehrhoff (who is 3rd among d-man for +/), o’brien (who has been playing amazingly lately) and edler (who is a staple in our d-corp)
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stupid SBN formatting
Yeah, I did forget some guys.
OK, point still stands though, I think.
Ehrhoff/Edler
O’Brien/Salo
Rome/Alberts/Bieksa
or
Keith/Seabrook
Johnsson/Sopel
Hjalmarsson/whoever…I think thats still a big advantage. Keith and Seabrook tilt the scales so heavily that your other pairs don’t matter as much. I can see the ’Nucks getting to the WCF, but not much further.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
we’ll just have to wait and see what happens. but let me say this: this is the strongest canucks team we have seen in quite a long time.
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2-2 this year against Nashville…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
*cough one of those games thanks to auger *cough
yes, that could be a very interesting playoff matchup should it occur.
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Wait, you’re joking about Auger right? Because he didn’t give you the game; you lost that fair and square. He DID give some PIM you didn’t need at the end, but the game was already gone.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, you guys scored the game winner on the powerplay that resulted from one of those penalties! it should have gone to overtime at least!
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Actually not so much. Henrik Sedin was off in the box for tripping, which was a legit call:
a 4-on-3 for Nashville when Henrik Sedin went off for tripping.
…a 4-on-3 for Nashville when Henrik Sedin went off for tripping.
Given that last, and unlikely, chance to win the game, the Predators came through. A big blast by Shea Weber hit the top corner for just his 2nd goal since November, but it was good enough to give the team a 3-2 lead with just minutes to play.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
true
however, take a look at this:
15:11 nashville penalty. canucks powerplay
15:15 burrows bullshit penalty, 4 on 4
15:35 sedin penalty, 4 on 3
15:57 nashville powerplay goal (GWG)
if that bullshit call hadn’t been made, the game would have ended quite differently.
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maybe
All water under the bridge. We could have lost, sure, but my point really was that we would’ve been able to win that game regardless of the refs; it was competitive w/o the BS calls.
But like you said; that would be an awesome playoff series…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
The Canucks have better goaltending than Chicago. The Hawks have the edge on the back line and the forward match ups are pretty even. The top lines on both teams are both outstanding. Neither team is particularly exceptional with their other forward lines.
Two pretty even teams, would be a great match-up. And if its close, go with the better goaltender, meaning Vancouver…likely in 7 games…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 27, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
If they’ve got a big shiny trophy, they’re not waiting until July to show it off. By then it could be making the rounds in Russia.
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dude, how did you get your pic to work as a link???
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(I’m not a dude.) But to answer your question, I just copy and paste the code that Tweetphoto gives you to link to their pictures. They won’t let you hotlink. Hotlinks always die.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone on the internet is a sweaty 300lb man-child living in his mother’s basement.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
That certainly explains your user name.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
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There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Heh. Love the avatar, btw.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahahahahahahaha
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s more than okay, it’s awesome!
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OK, just making sure it wasn’t like RTing yourself :).
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 27, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
if Habs win tonight, it means the Devils didn’t. And so long as the Devils get no more than 1 point, the Caps win the Eastern Conference regular season and home ice through EC playoffs.
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yes, i know.
playoff pushes make for strange teams to root for, eh?
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Aren’t you at the beach?! Lord you need an intervention! hahahah
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we get Comcast Pilly out here, so we’re taking a break and watching Pens-Flyers!
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"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
besides, it’s cold and windy. I got my french fries, so I’m pretty set. Although I’m ready to turn off Pens-Flyers and stick with Alaska-BC.
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That’s cool. I can’t wait to leave.. 20 minutes til I get off work. See ya crappy job!!!
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even cooler, we also get Comcast DC, so I just watched the re-play of Caps-Carolina. Real American Hero!
ok, maybe I do need an intervention.
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I totally bailed on studying for a yooge test Thursday to watch the Preds game.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
During the Buffalo-Ottawa game last night, Mike Fisher got thrown out for boarding with a push. Here’s the video link :
http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2010/03/27/mike-fisher-risks-suspension-with-hit-on-patrick-kaleta/
The play was very similar to Ovi’s hit on Campbell (TSN even pointed out that Kaleta lost an edge prior to hitting the boards), but the OTF guys were hedging on whether it was suspendable, based on the fact that he hit Kaleta, implying (with their chuckles) that Kaleta no doubt sold it. I don’t think Kaleta was injured, although he was doing the mouth grab looking for blood, like he did when he was hit by Ovi back in November. Interested to see if Fisher gets at least a fine.
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Looking at the two videos of hits in that article exposes a HUGEE problem in the NHL right now. It seems as though some of the refs are on one page, some are on another page, and a few are reading a different book. Hell, with that metaphor, it seems like some refs aren’t even reading the rule book. . .
The play in the first video looks like a dive, imo, Very little contact at all is made. As for the second, that hit was kind of ridiculous. The ref’s penalties should have been reversed.
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Looks pretty similar to me. Except of course that Mike Fisher is no Alex Ovechkin (this in the vein of "he’s so much stronger than anyone else). Oh, and it was completely from behind.
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Yeah, no question it was from behind. And as far as it being less “energetic”, it did look slower than the speed that Ovi hit Campbell, but the push seemed the same.
So if nothing is handed down, this means hits by stronger or bigger players = Suspension. Chara needs to watch out.
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I agree the push is pretty comparable. When I said “energetic,” I was referring to the speed, which I think is an important difference. Because of that speed, Campbell flies into the boards while still half upright; they’re going so fast that after the hit Ovi has to dive over him. In Fisher’s hit, Kaleta slides along the ice into the boards and Fisher has no trouble stopping. Fisher’s hit isn’t nearly as dangerous because of that.
I’m not saying I agree with Ovi’s suspension, for the record. Just that the circumstances of his hit resulted in a much more violent collision with the boards.
Brandon Worley’s got a pretty good breakdown of the hit over on ProHockeyTalk, and it’s pretty clear that Fisher didn’t do anything to hit Kaleta except not hitting the brakes. Definitely doesn’t warrant a game misconduct in my mind.
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I agree about the speed being a big factor in the outcome of Ovi’s hit vs. Fisher’s. But since Colin Campbell concentrated on the pushing motion and the proximity of the boards when handing out the punishment, Fisher should get something.
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My thought when I saw that hit was “if Ovechkin didn’t get suspended for his hit, there’s no way that would even be a two-minute minor.” I’m certain Kaleta sold that hit all the way.
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that was a race for icing touchup and in that instance, fisher cant check kaleta in any manner. imo, that deserves a five just for that. if it was just a normal race for the puck i might say 2 or 4 minutes. perhaps the refs also took into consideration the previous pushing and shoving between the two which goes to intent on fisher’s part.
i think w/out ovi’s hit on campbell maybe that doesnt get the major.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 27, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i think w/out ovi’s hit on campbell maybe that doesnt get the major
Or at least the Game misconduct and possible fine/suspension. Such is the can o’worms that Colin has opened up…
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
Right. Maybe he gets 5 for boarding but not the game. However, the misconduct was probably due to the injury to kaleta although sounds like he wasn’t hurt that bad.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
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I haven’t seen this yet, so apologies if it has been brought up before…
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i got a good chuckle out of what he said about the canucks.
Surprising to turn on Versus the other night and see Keith Jones talking up the Canucks as a Cup contender. No, it’s not because the Canucks aren’t worthy. This is a good team, built from the net out. No, instead it was curious to find out that people on Versus actually know who the Canucks are.
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lol
There’s no way Montreal AND Ottawa are better than Nashville, right?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Uhh. You’ve got Canadian and East Coast bias working against you.
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with all due respect to Cburt, I like the ‘Nucks coming out of the West this year. They have multiple scoring lines, an underrated defense and a goalie who can play at the elite level…of course that’s final the question, but I think they have all the answers for both the Hawks and Wings.
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Luongo hasn’t been on his game for a couple months now. Unless he turns it around I don’t like VAN either. They’ve got the pieces, but sometimes that’s not enough.
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I said it above, so I won’t rehash, but I don’t think they even have the pieces.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking closer between the pipes
No one out West really has it all. The Hawks are being exposed; the Wings are rolling out a rookie goalie and Quick is in his first dance; Nabby = playoff meh and Craig Anderson shouldn’t scare anyone. I like Luongo more than any of them.
Bryz and Rinne are tougher, but may face one another in the first round—regarding Rinne, I have a feeling it won’t be because of him that Nashvegas meets its demise, no matter whom they play. Dude is solid.
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agreed on all points
I still think Chicago is the most balanced.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re going to tag someone with ‘playoff meh’, you can’t leave out Luongo’s performance against the ‘Hawks last season. None of the goalies in the West are historically terrifying, but who was calling Dwayne Roloson to get hot and take the Oilers to the finals against Carolina? It’s not who’s consistently amazing, it’s who’s hot in the playoffs. All of those guys have the potential to go on a streak and wipe someone out.
Rinne’s been absolutely money for me in fantasy over the last two weeks and Bryz has been playing out of his mind pretty much the entire season. We’ll see what we get when the chips are actually down, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see any of the top five teams in the West come out of that conference.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, I hope Pekka stays hot. We could be a royal pain in the playoff ass if he does.
What happens if Ryan Miller goes Olympic-berserk in the playoffs?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Then the Sabres can beat anyone. An Olympic Ryan Miller terrifies me. Terrifies me. When you get that kind of goalie play, your team just has to not lose and you have a great shot at getting out of the series, even against a vastly superior opponent.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats what I thought. He could just go completely wild and put up a 1.3 GAA and .970 % and the East is screwed.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
He technically could, but he’s not going to sustain a .970 over the entire EC playoffs. No one has ever been that good and as much as I like his game, he’s not that good either.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Obviously; I used that number more to illustrate his capabilities.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
He could do it in a couple of rounds. But Team Canada was able to beat him in the Olympics even though he played well.
Then again, no Eastern Conference team is as good as Team Canada.
That being said, it’s a lot to expect a hot goalie to be hot for all games of 3 series.
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Which is why I don’t think any goalie is worth 6 million dollars and why I don’t like VAN’s chances right now. I can’t be the only person to watch the Olympics and realize that Luongo didn’t have his A game. He hasn’t seemed to have found it since the Olympics either.
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I could see paying that kind of money for Hasek or Roy, but that’s really the class of goalie you’re looking at for that K to make sense in a salary cap era.
Luongo absolutely hasn’t found his game since before the Olympics. We know he’s a very good goalie, we sure got enough of him in FLA and he’s had stretches in VAN where he’s carried the team. But he’s definitely off since about the middle of this season, certainly not comparable to the level of play he was bringing last season.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m fully on board the Bowman model. Find a serviceable goalie and stack the hell out of the team in front of him, especially the D. The last high profile elite goalie to win a Cup was Giggy in ‘07; and that’s being very loose with “elite.”
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Are the Caps following the Bowman roadmap?
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not yet
They don’t have any Prongers/Niedermayers/Lidstroms
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a guy at Giant who’d want a word with you, I think.
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by red army line on Mar 27, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Like CB said, we don’t have the D yet. But we’re close. I don’t know what GMGM’s philosophy is but we’ll know in a couple years. If he lets Varlamov go and keeps the cheaper goalie, and re-signs Green/Carlson/Schultz/Alzner then that looks like the Bowman model. If he puts a bunch of money into Varlamov and lets a D go, not so much.
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Those four you mention definitely work for the model, so come back to me when Carlznerson hits their stride.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. I just hope that’s the path GMGM takes. Let Neuvirth and Holtby develop slowly and keep calling up the next guy when the incumbent is due for a raise. No need to shell out more than 5 on our goalie.
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I think we are set for the future as far as goalies go, Theo then Varly then Neuvy the Holtby then whoever.
Jason Bacashihua seems like he will be an AHLer for life
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Yeah, like a lot more staying healthy.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he also has the inside track, clearly.
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As I think he should. He’s shown the ability to step into big pressure situations and make big saves. He’s got all the tools, the question is whether he can use them for more than a month at a time before his body breaks down or he loses focus or whatever. But I think he’s the best of all our prospects at the high end.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s the most athletic and has the most raw skill, but it’s completely unfair to say he’s the only one to show the ability to step into big pressure situations. Neuvirth took an overmatched team to the Memorial Cup and has a Calder Cup MVP. Say what you want about the level of competition, his brain is wired to lock his game in when it counts.
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He’s not the only one to do it, not what I was intending to imply at all. He is, however, the only one to do it at the NHL level, and after he stepped up big for eight or nine games, he burned out. Part of that is PIT manhandled our D on the forecheck, but part of that was either focus or conditioning.
He’s got serious flaws to overcome, but if he can, I think he’s got the highest ceiling. That’s not saying anything negative about Neuvirth or Holtby, just what I’ve seen so far against NHL competition.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree he’s got the highest ceiling, and if he reaches it we should let him move on unless he proves to be a perennial spring stud. The drop from Varlamov to Neuvirth or Holtby won’t be as great in the play as it is in the contract.
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Agreed on that. I’d rather have the space to keep one of our other skaters who’re much easier to predict, performance wise
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh, Giggy’s good but I wouldn’t call him elite.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. But you look at the last Cup goalies and you have MAF (x2), Osgood (x2), Giggy, Emery, Ward, Roloson, Khabibulin, Kipper.
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Not exactly a murderer’s row there.
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Exactly. The common factor? All of those guys hit the playoffs hot. How the hell do you predict that?
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Some goalies have a better chance at getting hot i’d say.
Like i’d take Miller getting hot over Brodeur at this point.
Luongo over Miika Kiprusoff
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Well you can say that looking at how they are playing right now. Sure, Miller is a better bet than Brodeur or Luongo, but when you are about to sign a 5 year contract, how do you know you’ll have the guy hot for the playoffs? That’s too uncertain for me to commit tons of money to a goalie. Brodeur took a discount to stay in NJD so he’s not killing their cap, but he hasn’t gotten hot in the playoffs since 2003 and he’s the most elite goalie in the game for the last several seasons.
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As far as contracts go, they mainly sign them for their performance in the regular season. Because they are very important yet often unpredictable, they are tough to sign i’d say.
I think Goalies that show they can stay consitent into the play-offs should get good contracts. . .beyond that, you gotta work your GM magic
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Agreed, there just aren’t many goalies that fit that bill. I prefer short term contracts for goalies as well. Keep them working for that security.
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In the salary cap NHL, I think it’s becoming increasingly difficult to both:
A) Have a stacked roster of talented skaters
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B) Have a proven “elite” goaltender.
You’ve got to scrimp somewhere.
Pittsburgh scrimps on the wings. NJ scrimps on D. SJ scrimps past their top line. Chicago is in cap hell for the foreseeable future and still doesn’t have a proven “elite” goalie. Philly and Detroit both scrimp in net. NYR and BUF have no scoring depth.
The Caps are lucky this year because so many of their best players are on entry-level or affordable RFA contracts. Still, I don’t think anyone would refer to Theo as a proven “elite” goaltender.
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Agreed, and to be clear I have never been close to calling Theo elite. I’m just saying you don’t need elite to win if you are elite or great in other areas, which we are.
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You know whats funny? Nashville has above-average wingers, center depth, defense depth, and goalie depth. For like 32 million. Granted, we’re not cup winners, but this isn’t impossible people. We’re a five seed, surely someone can figure this out with a full budget.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville and PHX are in some pretty enviable positions, its seemed like everything has worked out pretty much right for them as far as contracts go
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When you don’t have elite scorers and are used to working with small budgets it sets up for you in some ways. The key is trying to get value. Some luck doesn’t hurt either.Yotes got lucky with Bryz courtesy of GMGM.
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Weren’t the Caps before the Coyotes in the waiver lines?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup. We were the worst in the league at that point and had first crack at him. D’oh.
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Yes, that was what I was referring to. I dropped a bunch of f bombs talking with several people that day. I was so pissed. Still am a little.
Lemonade out of the lemon is that it was the Yotes who grabbed him.
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I still am pissed. For all the Fehr/Getzlaf moaning Caps fans do, it’s the Bryz thing that burns me the most.
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It was a tough situation though. In hindsight, we should have sent Johnny to the “A” and had Olie back up Bryz.
I was annoyed at the time, but not furious.
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Yeah, it was also a little before it was completely clear that Kolzig was done. Maybe 2 weeks or a month later and GMGM pulls the trigger on that.
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I was already done with Olie by then, but I’m also a (relatively) recent Caps convert, so my loyalties didn’t run as deep.
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I was pretty sure he was done as well, but I didn’t want to believe it. And as loyal as Ted and GMGM are you had to know Olie was going to get every chance to keep his job. He stayed with us through the lockout and was the face of the franchise before AO. I understand why they did it, I just wish we had Bryz.
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or have Bryz backup Olie. Or have them fight for minutes. Tell him day one when he got here, “You and Olie will duel for the top job for the remainder of the season, then next year its Yours to lose, and please mentor this kid named Varly we have coming up…..”
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He’s already got a receding hairline. . .Getzcry that is
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
You have depth, but you basically have one top line forward. Arnott is passed those days, Wilson isn’t there yet (although he end up there next season). I like your roster much better with Radulov still lacing ’em up for you.
Those top-line guys cost a lot unless you’re getting them on ELC’s, which is why first round picks and drafting well is so important these days.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
see reply to D'oh boy...
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I know you like the Preds, but. . . forward depth? Maybe you’ve got depth, but the guys you’ve got aren’t very good.
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We have more guys over 30 points than anyone in the league. Even the Caps. Erat, Arnott, Dumont, Hornqvist, and Sullivan will all hit north of 50 points. They’re not elite; but they’re not as bad as they’re sometimes made out to be. I certainly wouldn’t call them “not very good”. Wilson is another matter entirely, he’s been on fire in the small sample size we’ve gotten.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Not meaning to be a jerk, but you don’t have a single top-level talent at forward. The one you had ran off to Russia.
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What are you calling top-level talent? Ovechkin?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, defining it that way is a pretty tough standard.
If pressed, I’d define it as someone who without a doubt would be on the top two lines and see lots of power play time on ANY team in the league.
I don’t think any of your forwards would crack the top-six on Wash, SJ or Chicago, and maybe not Vancouver or Phoenix.
Still, I pulled that definition out of my butt… I think it’s more like porn, I know it when I see it.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 27, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, so what about a player who has 30 goals with 15:20 average TOI?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Eric Fehr?
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I thought Fehr had 20, not 30?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you’re referring to Horny, might I also point out that he gets almost 3 minutes of PP TOI/Game.
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Yeah, I know. He has to because he and Weber are the only ones that give a shit on the power play.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
And fully 1/3 of his goals come on the PP.
Now imagine him on a better team where he wasn’t force-fed PP ice time and given lots of chances to take shots. His goals would go way down.
Fehr is in almost the opposite situation. If he were playing for a team like Edmonton or NYI, he’d probably have 30 goals right now because he’d be out there all the time on the power play.
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Yeah, probably, I was more asking if you considered him to be top-line talent. I really don’t at the moment, because of the possibility he’s a flash in the pan.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he could settle in as a decent 2nd line player. It’s not like he’s putting up some ludicrous shooting % and getting balls-ass lucky.
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I dunno about D’oh, but I’m talking about prototypical 1st line forwards on a given NHL team. Malkin plays on the second line in PIT, but we all know he’s the 1st option just about anywhere else.
I see Hornqvist as a first-line rebound-collecter/screener, but that’s all I see on a regular first line.
Trotz has done an amazing job, as has Poile, but NSH doesn’t have the elite talent up front that the other Western Conference contenders do.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It reminds me of our D depth. Tons of 5-7 guys. Technically that’s depth, it’s just not where you need the guys to be slotted.
With all due respect CB, 30 points isn’t special. I’m not even looking at it as a spoiled Caps fan, but 30 points is a 3rd line player on almost any contending team.
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Its worked moderately well so far; I can’t really ask for any more considering the damn constraints GMDP has to work with.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, like I said, you’ve gotta scrimp somewhere. With your limited budget, you guys scrimp a little more than other teams. Which is why Hamhuis is going to walk this summer.
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booooo!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
but
he has played exceptionally well since the deadline.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, the fact they have more 30 point scorers speaks to the great team oriented offense they have. Don’t rely on one player in particular
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Thats kind of what I’m getting at. Our fourth line can probably (haven’t run any numbers) outscore the Caps’ 3rd and 4th lines (not cumulatively).
In the end, experts agree-we need one more top line forward.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt your 4th line matches up that well. I’d bet our 3rd outscores your second. When healthy, we have 2 20 goal scorers on the third line. I doubt any other team packs that much heat.
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Don’t think your 3rd outscores our 2nd…Sullivan has basically 50pts, Hornqvist 50, and Goc 25.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ideally, our 3rd line is Flash/BMo/Fehr.
Flash has 49, BMo has 42 and Fehr has 37, which adds up to 128. That’s more than the 125 your second line clocks in at.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha. More than I was guessing; I had Belanger in that 3C spot.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hornqy is awesome. he is top level
I think Erat is top flight too
Tootoo is a champ in his own right
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This is either snark or one of the most unintentionally hilarious things I’ve heard all day.
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Heh. Erat is maddeningly inconsistent.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I was pretty much joking about Tootoo. . .Erat has been pretty damn good this year, and that is all i am judging this off of by top flight i mean within the top 3 tiers. . .remember there are a tonn of rly bad players
and Hornqy is a top level grinder imo
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Hornqy is a top level grinder
How intentional was nicknaming him Horny/Hornqy? Even worse to have than Jizz IMO.
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by red army line on Mar 28, 2010 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Well thats cause the type of hockey Nashville plays is built around the entire team making working towards goals. Don’t get me wrong, it works, but Nashville doesnt have the same ability of the caps to produce un-assisted or singular player goals.
Alot of production comes from the blueline from what i’ve seen.
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So. . . wait a minute . . . who do you think actually has a decent goalie?
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Errbody except ChiTown has a decent goalie in the top 8 of the West.
I think all of them could possibly light on fire, some have a higher chance than others though
I really like out chances because of the Theo/Varly tandem. If one doesn’t perform, we have another chance to get a hot goalie
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I’d consider Niemi decent right now. Small sample size for sure.
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Meh, he is decent. I don’t think he is the caliber of Theo or Varly for that matter
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Theo and Varly fit in the decent category. I’d argue they are about equal to Niemi. Theo’s experience may make him slightly more valuable, but not much.
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Hah no way, Theo and Varly are definitely better.
I’d put then in the level above decent
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Why might I ask? Theo & Niemi currently have the same save pct.
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I’d give Theo the nod because he sees a higher number of quality chances.
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Yeah. CHI has a great system for limiting chances and some real studs on the blueline. Toews is a legitimate Selke guy in the next couple of years, if he’s not there already.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
As well as former Selke candidate John Madden, great two way player Patrick Sharp, solid two way guys like Bolland and Versteeg and Hossa. That whole team can play D.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If a goalie gets hot I probably agree with you. I’m just not convinced they will. Theo his hot, and the Caps don’t even need a hot goalie. If Theo stays this hot I don’t see us losing.
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Theo could turn it down a few degrees and if the rest of our team plays the way it’s capable of, I don’t see anybody stopping us.
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Problem is Theo doesn’t have that setting. He’s bimodal.
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Chicago isn’t my Cup favorite for two reasons:
1) The WC is much tougher to get out of this year, and
2) All that depth is great, but there’s only so much ice time to go around. When the benches get shorter, elite players become more important. The Caps have the best elite players in the game.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 27, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Their blueline definitely better than the Caps D. I’ve However, I still don’t see much difference between the two goalies, certainly not a big one. They are middle of the pack goalies.
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Right. Which is why I said “if he gets hot”.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. Those guys can all score, too (except Madden). Getting a forecheck and keeping the puck out of the forwards’ hands is going to be huge in any series against them. A potential top six of Keith/Seabrook, Hjalmersson/Campbell and Johnsson/anyone is scary. There’re three puck movers and three guys that can play very good shut-down D.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think our forecheck, when really asked to step up and rise to the occasion, is something to be seriously feared.
Campbell prolly won’t be back for the SC, atleast i dont think.
Those D lines are incredible though. . .all good players in their own right and the different dynamic playing style gives their defense a ton of different looks. They all share a good defensive responsibility too
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On paper it’s scary. But HJ is a rookie and hasn’t had an NHL playoff grind. I forget what happened but Campbell is currently injured and may not be 100% for the playoffs. Seabrook is slumping and Keith is off his early-season pace. Johnsson is good but he’s not carrying a team and he’s still kinda soft.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 27, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Right, but Johnsson doesn’t have to carry that blueline. He may not even have to play on the second pair if the ’Hawks make it to the third round.
Even though Keith’s looked a little slower after the Olympics, he’s still incredible. Seabrook has definitely been slumping and I’m sure that wasn’t helped by Wisniewski’s dirtbag play. HJ is a rookie, but he’s averaging 19:25 a night.
There’s plenty that could go wrong there, but there’s plenty that could go right, too. That’s near the NJD Nieds/Stevens/Daneyko/Rafalski setup, but not quite there.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I forget what happened but Campbell is currently injured and may not be 100% for the playoffs.
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Niemi has a TON of help. Yet still plays like that.
Theo. . .yeah, u know the story
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Bryz and Rinne, to me, are very strong. I think Luongo is capable of playing a lot better than his season to date; if he turns it on, I really like VAN to represent the west.
With the exception of Toskala, who licks ass, I think all the playoff starters for the possible playoff teams out west are more than decent…I just don’t see any distinct advantage many of VAN’s opponents have in net. As I indicated I don’t think Rinne will be the reason VAN gets past them.
And I’ll admit PHX is one fat question mark to me: out in the first or WCF?
Here’s how I would handicap the G’s out West right now:
PHX
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VAN
SJS
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CHI
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I’m not putting Kiprusoff or Anderson behind Howard or Niemi/Huet. Just sayin’.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
FWIW, Toskala isn’t a playoff starter.
2. NSH? Really? Rinne’s got a stellar .907 sv. %. I don’t watch a ton of NSH hockey, but that’s not exactly stellar.
I’d go:
Bryz
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Kiprusoff
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Nabokov
Howard/Osgood
Quick
Rinne
Huet/Niemi
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yeah, my mistake on Kipper…he’s yet to win a playoff series in four tries, so I still don’t think (even if CGY were to somehow turn it around) I’d rate him above Lou.
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Kipper has yet to win a playoff series? Um. . . 2003-4?
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Kipper took CGY to the SCF.
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that was 6 years ago. he and his team haven’t been that good since.
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He’s been pretty damn good this season, even if the team in front of him has quit.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
When Rinne’s really hot, he’s better than everyone but Bryz. He rarely gets that hot, though. I’d put him after Bryz/Nabby/Luongo, but way before Howard/Quick/Chicago.
He has ramped up his play more than I ever thought he could this month. Last week had consecutive shutouts and the game before those just took Philly completely out of it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
WhenRinne’s_________ is really hot, he’s better than everyone
You can pretty much make this argument about anyone. Any of the top 15 or so goalies in the league is capable of putting together a great stretch of play, or a terrible one. It’s all about who gets hot at the right time and how frequent (or infrequent) those stretches are.
I think this is sorta the point F&B is making above.
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I don’t know about that. Its true to an extent, but from my Western conference view a “hot” Rinne has been better than a hot Quick or Howard.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that’s basically my point. I don’t even think you have to limit it to the top 15. If you are an NHL goalie, when you are hot you can steal games and support teams. Leighton was hot and carried PHI for part of the season. Raycroft got hot and won a Calder and carried a team to the playoffs. Lalime has had his moment. You just have to find the guys that are more consistent and not get enamored by their hot streaks.
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If we’re talking hot-streaks, Howard’s had a pretty good set of ‘em this season, Niemi had a period where he was stopping everything he saw and most of what he didn’t and Quick has been good the entire season. All reasonably good NHL goalies have those streaks, it’s who’s going to get one during the playoffs.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sorry but Rinne isn’t going ahead of severalk of those guys. Sure he can get hot, but so can any NHL level goalie. Hell, even Brian Boucher got hot for a month.
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Yup. Bryzgalov is the guy to beat right now.
Remember Dan Ellis setting the consecutive shutout streak? Anyone CAN get hot.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
The more I think about it. . .
I’m an erstwhile Avs fan, but I give the nod to Anderson as the best keeper in the west the more I think about it. He sees much more rubber each game than Bryz, and the Avs are outshot by 5 shots on goal every night.
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I thought Pepper and Wax did a great job, especially for a first time.
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I couldn’t really hear Wax. Other than that, solid show.
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
Huh. He sounded good to me. Odd.
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I really enjoyed it. They did a great job consolidating alot of different opinion into their discussion about Theo, the Blueline, and the penalties. They also did a great job bringing in different sources of info, including a few twitter reports. Waxman and Pepper are really knowledgable too.
Stephen Pepper also has a surprisingly sultry voice.
I’m on the West Coast so i can’t listen live, but I will definitely try to wake up live and call in.
The first caller did call out the Capstronaut. . ME NO LIKEY!!!
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The caller was Holden Kushner, the host of 1067 The Fan’s evening show.
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Didn’t listen live, but I downloaded it and listened.
I thought it was good for the first time out. No real technical issues which is really good considering some first podcasts I’ve heard over the years, even professional stuff.
I’m sure they will incorporate some different things or segments over time.
My one real complaint was too much Waxman. The show needed more Pepper.
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I just listened to the downloaded version myself. Everyone came in loud and clear. The analysis was great, very balanced and fair. I also wanted to hear more from Pepper, although I didn’t have a problem with what Waxman was saying, just that he tended to jump in when I was focused on Pepper’s analysis. I’m bummed that I have to wait until next week to hear their discussion of the forward situation.
This show, free of rant and cant, will definitely help satiate some of my craving for worthy Caps discussion.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 27, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks everyone for listening! And I appreciate the kind words, and taking the time to comment. See you next week for an even better show!
by Stephen Pepper on Mar 27, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Click on the iTunes button on the blogtalkradio player at the home page, and you can listen / subscribe via iTunes. We plan to get a separate iTunes store spot as well soon — it takes a week or two.
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Oh, awesome. Thanks!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I caught the third period, right as you guys were segueing to the defensive side of the chat. Feed was good for me, good clarity and excellent in depth conversation. Not real “snappy” or sarcastic; it was on the serious side and I felt dovetailed nicely with the radio format.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Avatars, they’re the new black.
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Whats up with the avatar obsession around here, anyway?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know but I made sure that I had one. I excel at reading comprehension so even though I didn’t even know an avatar was I read the directions on how to locate one.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
We like when people have avatars?
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by red army line on Mar 27, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And I obey the laws.
In truth I’ve come to like them—handy way of identifying posters. But I held off from commenting at first because I didn’t know avatars—and am a tad bit shy. The Lurkers Guide was also very useful.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 27, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s especially helpful when people pick something distinctive and stick with it, so that they’re easily recognizable.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 27, 2010 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It brings a little more personality to the place. It’s better than just seeing white down the side of the screen. J.P. requested that the regulars got avatars so we’ve run with it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Bienvenue, beaches! Your daily playoff match-ups, from chilly Rehoboth.
EAST
(p)Washington vs. Boston
New Jersey vs. Philadelphia
Buffalo vs. Montreal
Pittsburgh vs. Ottawa
WEST
(p)San Jose vs. Detroit
(p)Chicago vs. Colorado
Vancouver vs. Los Angeles
Phoenix vs. Nashville
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whoooooo
Look out CP2! ;). I actually don’t think that will end up our matchup, but still.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think so either. More likely the Yotes will get the Kings or Avs, but you never know.
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I think we’ll see PHX/LA, Canucks/Preds, Wings/Sharks and Hawks/Avs. I think COL does the biggest nosedive coming down the home stretch.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions
and wouldn’t you know it, as soon as I hit post, Philly loses. Flip them with Boston. So Caps vs. Philadelphia and NJD vs. Boston.
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Bruins won too, you need to put a P beside PHX next time :)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
looking forward to it!
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I would not enjoy that first round opponent
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 27, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
PIT just clinched, by the way. It seemed to me like they won more because of disruptive defense rather than the Flyers being out of sync.
The Caps will test them more. Can’t wait. They’ve become such a measuring test for the Capitals.
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by red army line on Mar 27, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Pit clinched, but Jersey hasn’t? That’s odd.
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- Pittsburgh Penguins would clinch a playoff berth…
- if they get at least one point against the Philadelphia Flyers
- New Jersey Devils would clinch a playoff berth…
- if they get at least one point against the Montreal Canadiens
OR - if the Atlanta Thrashers lose (in regulation or overtime/shootout) to the Carolina Hurricanes
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by red army line on Mar 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
Just follow the link.
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by red army line on Mar 27, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
ah, thanks.
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You always hear about them being Cup faves and elite and whatnot; but the Preds have the same number of points facing tougher teams…..if you had told me we’d be tied with the Pens on March 27th back in October I’d have laughed you right out of the room.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, they’re good, but not THAT good this season. But even with the win today they are closer in points to 8th place than 1st place. The Caps have a 16 point lead in the conference.
Someone posted something very interesting yesterday which showed that the Pens are really quite awful against the league’s top 10 teams.
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I worry less about them getting hurt vs Philly than against Pittsburgh. With all the slashing, and cross checking that team does, look at what happened last year (Semin was definitely hurt against the Pens, the other stuff I’m not sure where it happened).
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GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
It’s okay, I love watching it. But I’d rather see a pedestrian hat trick any time.
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Ha. For a second I thought you were talking about the Hobey Baker finalist on UNH.
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He’s awesome too; watched him last night.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
What did you think of #39. He was the C on that line and he’s a Caps prospect. Did you watch closely enough to give an objective opinion?
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They scored 6? goals and he didn’t show up on the scoresheet. Not a good sign, usually.
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I read that he had 2 assists, but I’m not positive. The box scores I saw were all over the place.. Did you watch the game? UNH lets both of his wings fly up ice and they saddle him with a ton of defensive responsibility. I think that has a lot to do with it. He can sure skate and he was smart in his own end but I would have liked to see him create more.
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Didn’t watch. I lost all interest after DU lost. Plus, I had a 77-slide briefing to finish by COB Friday.
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It’s not ’til 930, right???
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9:15!
9:15-10:30. People are already heading over there to meet. I’m leaving momentarily.
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I’ll be metro-ing so that I can drink. Might bring a lady with me.
Do we need pucks?
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Hahahahhaaha. Of course I scored! And I did to the Carlson fist pump but I hadn’t seen this comment yet. Great minds…
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It depends. IIRC, there have been some games this season where the Caps scored 6 or 7 goals and Ovie wasn’t on the scoresheet…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He was just frigging awesome. My Tennessee love came flooding back last night. Him and JP Prince give us a legit chance at winning it all.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
So when people try to crap on Caps fans, especially on SBN, is it fair to point out that we are the only SBN blog to organize a pick up ice hockey game?
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You also have arguably the largest community…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
because the community members are fabulous? Who wouldn’t want to join us?
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Didn’t PPP have some kind of game going on? Other than that, I’m totally with using that to bludgeon Flyers/Pens fans who call us bandwagoners. Got a link?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a specific link to anyone trashing us. It just happens regularly. I was just over at BSH and saw they have a pick up FanPost but it’s for street hockey not ice hockey. Definitely going to bust that out if they try to give me any bandwagon shit.
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Yeah, they’re talking about playing on foot instead of roller blades, too. I mean, good on them for getting a game together, but damn.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 27, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Is the pickup game going to be like the last time where there’s free ice beforehand?
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do you still play? I’m looking forward to a playoff (rd. 2-ish) version I can attend
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Yeah. I suck though. The last pickup game was the first time i’d played hockey in 5 years.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
right on…figured as much from reading addl comments.
Our ice melted, so our outdoor ‘season’ is done. Pulled the liner up today.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
That sucks, but at least you got the rink together. Looked like a great project.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
You had an outdoor rink? Man, I’m so jealous. . .
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Fairly primitive, but with a view of the Yellowstone River and 7-9K’s as the backdrop. No Zamboni; lots of hot mops and generous neighbors with taps and spigots to borrow. Lots of scraping. And beer.
We had a really unseasonably warm winter; we’d hoped for all of March, and got none. Good group of guys though: a few miners currently in between triumphs who kind of organized the games, etc. Several Pens fans, all tolerable.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Montana, I take it?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Yeah I assume there will be free ice before. The sooner we get ready the sooner we get on the ice.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
When are you getting there?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Does PPP?
I am going to come to a game sometime. . .hopefully i can get there form the West Coast sometime
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I don’t know if PPP did, but I know that as of the date of our first game we were the only ones to have a game.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Ah word, honestly, I think our community is by far the best. I am ridiculously biased, but it just seems PPP is a bit too big and wild.
And we have avatars, if i ever meet you at a Pick Up Game or viewing party, FB, dont be offended if i am very offset that you dont look like Captain Hank Murphy in person
Bah-Ram-Ewe, Ovechkin will wreck you. Fear the Furious Fleece!
He looks just like him.
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I heard he was…nvm.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions
You heard nothing!
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Is it frowned upon to crack jokes about Mrs. F/B? Cause I have a good one.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. I can let it slide if it’s funny. She’s a quality lady though.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I’m sure! Have to be to put up with you.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
AHL transactions says Matty Perreault has been called up. If true, I am so excited!!
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Wooooooooooooooooooot!
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
nothing from TEB?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 27, 2010 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope. I’ve been looking for confirmation, but that’s all I’ve found.
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The AHL transaction log is reliable and it is updated throughout the day. It is on the official AHL website and lists all transactions in the league. I have noticed that the recalls sometimes appear on the AHL transaction log prior to being announced on the Caps website or other sources, esp. in situations like today where the recall was not in time for today’s practice and the Caps were not playing tonight.
OT But not completely
I think I see why Carlson finally got past the post, Semin is now whispering sweet nothings in his ear
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I don’t think Caps info can really be OT in the Caps Clips thread.
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That’s a great picture. But it also serves as a stark reminder of how far apart in age my two kids are. Semin was the first player approximately the age of my first born who made it to the Caps (as he is nearly a year older). Carlson is the first one approximately the age of my younger child — he is a year older (in actuality, 1 year and 3 months older)
Semin looks so much older that Carlson, who looks so baby faced. (Semin looks young but not baby faced.)
I think people were trying to caption that picture when it came out.
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I like the K Smith quote
The “quick and painless” line had me feeling like it was a set up to say the Caps could be pushovers, which makes the punchline all the more hilarious
The Forbes article...
Are the Caps “hiding revenue,” like the author is suggesting? Or are they simply not reporting revenue that they don’t see? Or are they reporting that revenue even if it goes into someone else’s hands? Doesn’t seem like that guy was interested in doing much research lol
Perreault recalled
Per Leone, apologies if this is a repost.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 27, 2010 8:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Tarik is reporting this too. BMo probably not playing tomorrow, then.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 27, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Probably not. Will be excited to see Matty, though. Hopefully this is a brief recall – this is not a good time for the Caps to start dropping like flies :(
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They already are dropping like flies. (They have to stop dropping like flies come Tax Day 2010 since that’s probably when the playoffs start.)
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I noticed. I would like for the fly-dropping to stop now so that everybody has time to heal up prior to the playoffs.
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