Ovie vs. Sid and Wilbon's Idiocy
By Scott Lowe - from Good Old Hockey Blog
Years ago, when I was a high school kid avidly following my hometown teams in The Washington Post, I grew to dislike the writing of Michael Wilbon. But, as both of us matured and he became more of a national personality, my opinion changed and I often wondered what about him had irritated me so. Then, about 3-1/2 weeks ago, it all came rushing back.
I've been waiting for the right moment to reply to Wilbon's post Olympic comments that Sidney Crosby is "miles ahead" of Alex Ovechkin. With the next pending epic showdown between the two on the horizon in a few short hours, I figured now is as good a time as any. What bothered me about Wilbon back then was that he wrote as if he was the foremost expert about whatever topic he was dissecting - that only his opinion counted and that he was knowledgeable enough about whatever topic he was covering to be considered an expert. However, when it comes to hockey, he's not smarter than a fifth grader.
I can stomach the opinions of beat writers, columnists and radio hosts - even fans - who follow specific teams on a daily basis. Often I don't agree with them - and I have been known to call one or two an idiot on occasion - but at least they usually present enough evidence or have seen enough games or actually watch the sport they are talking about enough to have a somewhat educated opinion. Back in my high school days Wilbon would show up to cover the Caps in April, usually during some sort of complete postseason collapse, and pretend to be a hockey expert. He'd keep referring to all the Blackhawks games he had watched as a kid growing up in Chicago and make some ridiculously bold - and usually incorrect judgment - based on the four or five Caps games he had watched in the previous 10 days or so. Then, it would be another year before he'd write about anything hockey-related.
This year Wilbon decided to jump on the hockey bandwagon when all the non-fans tuned in to see the scintillating U.S. - Canada Olympic matchups, and after the stacked Canadian team - clearly one of the most talented rosters ever assembled - struggled mightily to overcome the youthful, inexperienced Americans for the Gold medal. It was after that game that Wilbon decided that he was once again a hockey expert.
There are two ways to look at the Ovechkin - Crosby rivalry. From a team perspective, clearly Crosby has the advantage with two Finals appearances and a Cup to his credit, although the argument could be made that until this season he had a better supporting cast. On the other hand, from and individual perspective, there's no argument that Ovechkin has accomplished more - scoring titles, Hart trophies, Calder Trophy, etc.
If you want to say that Crosby is the better player because of the Cup, I can deal with that. I happen to think that Ovechkin plays harder night in and night out and has a bigger overall impact on the game than Crosby, but that's my biased opinion. No matter what, you are going to have those who favor Joe Montana over Dan Marino because of the rings. That's understandable and defendable. The bottom line is, however, that every athlete mentioned in this paragraph is a first-ballot Hall of Fame talent and one of the greatest players their respective sports have ever seen.
The absurdity of Wilbon's opinion is that he made it based on Crosby's having also achieved an Olympic gold medal, while Ovechkin's undermanned, questionably coached Russian team was sent packing in the quarterfinals. What? You are going to say that a player is "miles ahead" of another player because his supremely talented team won a championship in two week, a one-and-done format in a sport that usually takes 2-1/2 months of pressure-packed playoff series to figure out which team is the best?
Seriously Mr. PTI, how do you think Canada would have done if you plugged Ovechkin into that lineup instead of him having to play on a team that has been known to give less that its best effort consistently over the past 20 or so years and that had nine players on its roster who aren't even in the the NHL?
Ovechkin vs. Crosby or Crosby vs. Ovechkin. As hockey fans we are fortunate and should be thankful that we will be treated to many more years of their amazing individual performances and head-to-head battles. It's Bird vs. Magic. LeBron vs. Kobe. Ali vs. Frazier. Whether you love Ovie or cheer for Sid, you tune in just to watch them. Those who say that Ovechkin is the best in the world have plenty of evidence in their favor, as do those who say Crosby is the greatest.
But once again Michael Wilbon, in trying to portray himself as hockey expert at a time when less knowledgeable fans had jumped on the sport's bandwagon, has shown how little he truly knows about the game. Hey Mike, stick to arguing with Kornheiser and leave our sport alone. And by the way, Tony is miles ahead of you as a columnist.
As for the rest of you, enjoy tonight's game!
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well written
you showed a degree of strained temeridy throughout that i think couldnt be faked. Very authentic.
Actually, I think the argument that X is a better player than Y because he has a Super Bowl ring / Stanley Cup ring / gold medal / etc. in a team sport is incorrect and sells the rest of the team short. All of those are team awards, not individual awards. To this point, Crosby has had the benefit of better teams than Ovechkin has, and has had all the goods in the world to work with. Let’s not kid ourselves, that Canadian team was so stacked that a five-year-old could have played on it and medaled. Crosby wasn’t the best player on that team, either – not even close.
Thanks for this, though.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
and it was Sid’s teammates who really showed up for the last couple of games against the Wings and ground out those wins.
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To this point, Crosby has had the benefit of better teams than Ovechkin has
/takes look at standings from this season and last season. I don’t think this is an argument anymore. The Caps are a more than good team that’s proven they can win a handful of games without Ovechkin nowadays.
Let’s not kid ourselves, that Canadian team was so stacked that a five-year-old could have played on it and medaled. Crosby wasn’t the best player on that team, either – not even close.
He was the 1st line center of that team, though. Canada was so balanced and had so much depth, they were better off giving everyone a lot of ice time to wear the opponents down. They didn’t need Crosby to play 20+ minutes a night when you got a guy like Toews on the “4th line”. Crosby didn’t shine in the whole Olympics, but they didn’t need him or ask him to play that role.
Wayne Gretzky had it wrong: 100% of the shots Gary Roberts doesn't take DO go in.
I’m not sure, but I think you just proved her point.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Crosby lead all Canadian forwards in total ice-time so Babcock must have thought he was playing well.
He was tied for 2nd on the team in Goals and Points, and tied for first on the team in Game Winners, and Shots.
Crosby was not dominant, but to suggest that he wasn’t among Canada’s best players throughout that tournament is incorrect.
Wayne Gretzky had it wrong: 100% of the shots Gary Roberts doesn't take DO go in.
Switching Crosby and Ovechkin on the two teams in the Olympics probably wouldn’t have yielded Russian gold and probably wouldn’t have resulted in Canada not getting a gold. I think that’s the central premise of the essay, and hard to argue against.
The eagle never lost so much time as when he submitted to learn from the crow.
The people who go to Wilbon for their sports fix are probably the same who satisfy a hamburger craving by going to McDonalds. Let’s hope he doesn’t pay attention to hockey for another four years.
by PensAreYourDaddy on Mar 26, 2010 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
So tired of the whole “who’s better, OV or Crosby?” theme. Since “better” is inherently subjective, it’s just an endless debate propagated by writers who can’t think of anything more creative to produce. This will be going on for years, and there’s no way to settle it.
I am a lifelong fan of the Caps who recognizes (and fears) what an awesome hockey talent Sidney Crosby is, and I don’t feel that in any way infringes on my appreciation or celebration of Ovechkin’s talent, or the Caps in general. If someone wants to argue that Crosby is the better player, that’s totally fine. I’m still rooting for the Caps. Someone could write a book about why Max Talbot is better than Ovechkin, doesn’t mean I’m not happy when the Caps win.
I personally don’t get why people get worked up about this (but I guess I just did too), so not worth it.
Wilbon is an idiot
Completely agree with everything, very well put. I was outraged when I read Wilbon’s comments, he don’t get hockey at all. I am glad that someone put him in his place – back seat of the short bus.

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