Tuesday Caps Clips: Down the Stretch They Come
by J.P. on Mar 23, 2010 6:44 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Good stuff on Bruce Boudreau and his goalies... but no "he's hard on goalies because he doesn't understand the position" reference? [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Speaking of his goalies, Jose Theodore has been really, really good for two-plus months now. [Corey Masisak, The Gazette]
- Brooks Laich on tomorrow night's game: "Just another hockey game. It'll be a good hockey game. A very good team, a team we respect, but just another game." Agreed. [CI]
- What to watch for down the stretch. [Bruce Boudreau, WaPo, Peerless, OFB]
- Is Alex Ovechkin closing in on a third-straight Hart Trophy? Yes? Just checking. [FanHouse]
- His coach sure thinks so. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- We all know how great a leader AO is, but vote and let everyone else know. [NHL.com]
- Related: "Alexander Ovechkin's Nomination Mocks the Values of the Messier Leadership Award" is guaranteed to be the most unintentionally funny headline you read all day. [ChicagoNow]
- For just the second time since March of 2007, Mike Green has only three shots on goal over a four-game span. The first time? In last year's playoffs. Might Green be heading for another post-season let down? [RtR]
- David Steckel has been the third-most successful faceoff man in the League since 1997-98. Impressive. [BtN]
- Dean Evason: assistant coach of the year? [FanHouse]
- Fresh power rankings are out, with the Caps holding onto the top spot at Sporting News, ESPN, TSN, CBS Sports and down one to second at The Hockey News.
- Nevertheless, pundits continue to pick "other" when given the opportunity to call the Caps Cup faves. Which is good. [CBC]
- Did the Caps really offer Tomas Fleischmann, Karl Alzner and a pick to Toronto for Tomas Kaberle? Doubtful. [The Star]
- Episode 6 of Caps Red Line Monday is now available online. [Caps365 (video)]
- If you're still burning about the new Caps goal song, find support here. [Hockey Chronicles]
- Got an NHL.com gift card burning a hole in your pocket? Here's a list of what you should get (once you have purchased authentic home and away Jeff Schultz jerseys, of course) and what you should avoid. [Examiner]
- Speaking of pushing product, the Caps' "10 Greatest Games" DVD set hits stores today, and i's never too early to think about Christmas gifts. [Amazon.com]
- If you missed the Bears' St. Pat's Day unis, check 'em out (and what I wouldn't give to see Mathieu Perreault, while wearing one of those, say, "They're magically delicious!"). [RtR]
- You will either love Stefan Della Rovere or love to hate Stefan Della Rovere. We're already solidly in that first camp. [Puck Daddy]
- Speaking of Delly, your weekly Farm Report. [FanPost]
- Finally, happy 22nd birthday to Michal Neuvirth, happy 34th to Nolan Baumgartner, and happy 52nd to Bengt-Ake Gustafsson.
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Guess you can scratch #2 of Peerless’ list, according to Wysh.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
Messier definitely never did anything dirty or suspension worthy in his NHL career. Definitely not as a player that is considered one of the best leaders of all time.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 23, 2010 7:00 AM EDT reply actions
I think my favorite line of that whole article is
In 2006, Ovechkin received five boarding majors and a game misconduct for hammering then-Philadelphia forward Daniel Briere.
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which implies that not only did Ovechkin get five boarding majors on the same play, but that Daniel Briere played for Philadelphia in 2006.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely a well written and researched article, that’s for sure.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 23, 2010 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I thought the goofy three-year-old award was enough of a mockery in and of itself that it didn’t need any additional help.
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by J.P. on Mar 23, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I think it would have been really funny if they have given Wisniewski 5 boarding majors the other night for his hit on Seabrook.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see AO win it, honestly.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 23, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
God this guy is dumb
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by Kevin Sellathamby on Mar 23, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, as a Chicago native myself, I could tell that just by the masthead of that blog.
I’m assuming the writer is the guy on the banner at the top of the blog wearing both a Cubs jersey and a White Sox jersey. No self-respecting Chicagoan likes both of those teams and would be caught dead wearing both jerseys. It’s like the law pretty much. So his credibility is out the window right there.
I like the Washington Capitals.
Yea, thats when Wilbon started losing credibility with me, earlier in his career he never would have rooted for the White Sox in the World Series
Aim for the head baby Jesus
It’s almost a parody of everything with sports radio. He even has a cigar.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
jim kelley of SI was there in philadelphia when that all went down. just ask him…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
he was in the pressbox the whole time!
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I also love that he puts the “five” in bold, so it’s clearly not just a typo or brain fart trying to write a “5 minute boarding penalty”. He wrote that sentence, looked it over, then decided the only revision needed was to emphasize the five. Never mind the fact that AO only got 20 PIM that game and doesn’t have 5 boarding majors in his career.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Strange that Ovechkin has accrued 297 PIM in his first five seasons in the NHL while Messier racked up 578 PIM in his first five. But yeah, I guess it is fair to use Ovechkin’s penalties to contrast him with Messier.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 23, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Via the great BoA (and clicking through and reading that entire post is highly encouraged), here’s part of Mess’s rap sheet:
Suspended one game by NHL during 1983-84 season for receiving three game-misconduct penalties during course of season… Suspended six games by NHL during 1983-84 season for hitting Thomas Gradin over the helmet with his stick during Edmonton’s Jan. 18, 1984, game vs. Vancouver. Gradin suffered a mild concussion… Suspended 10 games by NHL for cracking Jamie Macoun’s cheekbone in a fight during Edmonton’s Dec. 26, 1984, game at Calgary. Messier was retaliating for having been boarded by Macoun earlier in the game, but the NHL ruled that he had instigated the fight… Suspended six games by NHL during 1988-89 season for hitting Rich Sutter in mouth with a high stick during Edmonton’s Oct. 23, 1988, game at Vancouver. Although Messier was not called for a penalty on the play, Sutter suffered four broken teeth… Suspended without pay for three non-game, non-travel days and fined $500 by NHL for stick-swinging incident with Ulf Samuelsson during N.Y. Rangers’ March 5, 1993, game vs. Pittsburgh… Suspended two games and fined $1,000 by NHL for hitting Mike Hough from behind during second period of N.Y. Rangers’ Oct. 6, 1996, game vs. Florida
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He should have been given an award for swinging his stick at Ulfie.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
apparantly he was.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I think my favorite Ulfie quote ever was when SI was doing a poll of players to find out who was “dirtiest”, and Ulfie says “Can I vote for myself?”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I hated him as a player, but boy do I love him as a coach. Still pissed the Pens took his kid in last year’s draft.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if Boston ever hired him as a head coach, the universe would explode
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Milbury would go looking for the nearest hockey stick.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
seems that none of those incidents occured against the blackhawks, which makes them all part of being a leader.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 8:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone (J.P.)
Should post this in the comments section on that Chicago article.
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Looks like someone named “EatAPorcupine” beat him to it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
RedBirdie?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Uh Oh...
Looks like he’s responded to “EatAPorcupine”
You do a great job of pointing out that Messier wasn’t the posterchild for avoiding contact here, and I will readily admit that he took his shots.
But consider the current state of the NHL.
The league is rushing to pass to new rules to make head shots illegal, and the league has been very public in its efforts to move away from unwarranted physical violence. When Messier was getting suspended, the league wasn’t taking a stand against physical play; back in the day, they let men handle their business like men, on the ice. Now, however, the league is going out of its way to clean up the hitting in the game.
In light of those efforts, is it not hypocritical for the league to nominate a guy that’s been suspended twice THIS season for a “leadership” award?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Really? The NHL has been publicly denouncing violence in the game? Seems to me that Colin Campbell has been defending violence in the game pretty solidly.
You had me at no problem.
has long as it doesn’t result in injury, or said violence comes from the blindside, it’s all good!
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And blindside violent shots to the head will only be eliminated begrudgingly and after years and years of foot-dragging. “Very public efforts to move away from unwarranted physical violence”? What a freaking joke. This is a sport where guys who disagree with one another batter each other in the head with bare fists for a minute or two, while the refs stand aside.
You had me at no problem.
back in the day, they let men handle their business like men, on the ice.
As members of this season’s 200+ PIM brigade, we disagree.
/Zenon Konopka, Colton Orr, Steve “Don’t Call Me Francis” Downie
Then again, as I pointed out above, the guy on that blog has committed the inexcusable sin of wearing both Cubs and White Sox jerseys.
I like the Washington Capitals.
um, i dont think the league allowed stick swinging even back in mess’s day. i would not call that men “handling their business like men”.
of course, you could always point to his record as a captain and suggest that he is the perfect leadership candidate. that is if you consider leading your team to victories as part of the definition of leadership.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
hy his record i meant ov’s…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Um…if Messier was getting suspended and penaltized back in a day and age when the league wasn’t cleaning up the hitting in the game, wouldn’t it stand to reason that he was a much, much dirtier player than Ovechkin, who plays in an age where there’s more scrutiny but hasn’t received anywhere near the kind of punishment that Messier did?
Isn’t it more hyprocritical to name a leadership award for said dirty player? And even more hyprocriticial to then praise said player while calling the nomination of a less dirty player (who has never swung a stick at a guy’s head—something Mess did twice) a disgrace?
by Forsch31 on Mar 23, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Oh. God.
Well…. AO never was guilty of a head shot, so the climate on that is irrelevant. And how the fuck is swinging a stick “handling their business like men”? What a total ass. Someone call him out on Chelios.
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alas, wasn’t me!
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Nor does his sister Shirley
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Well Sid isn’t losing every numbers battle to Ovie then. He’s managed to rack up 348 career PIM’s in 26 less games played. Stop slacking Ovie.
by Davethecapsfan on Mar 23, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren’t most of those in minors?
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
All NHL numbers. I am surprised Sid had over 100 PIMs his rookie year. This is actually the first year Ovie has had significantly more PIMs than Crosby (the only other year Ovie had more, 07-08, he had 40 to Sid’s 39).
and in 07-08, Crosby missed a significant chunk of the season with that ankle injury.
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I suspect he’d call you a kiljoy. :-)
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
And I dropped the “s” in “she”. Bah!
I understood it clearly, by the way.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
could this be…?
is my math right?
considering pittsburgh’s loss last night…
a win in regulation on Wednesday will clinch the east for the washington capitals.
Almost. A win in regulation will give the Caps an 18-point lead over the Penguins, with Pittsburgh having the capacity to earn 16 points (eight games). If the Caps win in extra time, they will have a 17-point lead with the Pens having that 16-point availability..
So, if the Caps win, they win, any way you cut it.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Close, but not quite. We also have the Devils to consider. They’re tied with Pitt with a game or two extra
And the Sabres too. We have an 18 point lead over both NJ and Buffalo, and both can earn 22 more points.
Buffalo can get to 110. They don’t play until tomorrow night against Montreal. If they lose, they can get to 108. IN that case, if the Caps win against Pittsburgh, Buffalo will be eliminated. Both teams can get to 108, but the only way I see Buffalo getting there is tying the Caps in wins (i.e., winning out in their last nine games to finish with 48 wins). Caps win the tiebreaker on more points earned between the two clubs.
If you've read this far...seek help.
According to Sportsclubstats
Caps are holding steady at a 99.997485% chance at snagging #1 in the east.
by bilspacecadet on Mar 23, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly? I’m done with worrying about the Eastern Conference, realistically. As you’ve pointed out, it’s all but locked up. I’m watching the President’s Trophy race with more interest.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Short of some big changes in the way teams are playing, or the Coyotes keeping their streak going for the rest of the season, the Caps have the trophy locked up.
What I’m concerned about is the Caps performance leading up to the playoffs and making sure they’ve got all the bugs worked out so they can win the SC.
by Elliotte on Mar 23, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m watching the President’s Trophy race with more interest.
I’m totally there with you.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 23, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t you be at Canes Country? ;)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
would be an interesting experiment to see if you can single-handedly get Canes Country in implode
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It’s so much an experiment as a mathematical certitude. I like the odds on that magic.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 23, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You’re right… at this moment, the Devils can reach 110 points (11 games remaining). If they lose tonight in regulation to Columbus (humor me), that gets reduced to 108, and if the Caps and Devils tie at 108 (or just about anywhere else on the points meter), the Devils will win the tie-breaker (more wins).
If you've read this far...seek help.
I disagree with the Peerless’ take on the Calder. It would be a travesty if Tavares is a finalist over Howard.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 23, 2010 7:31 AM EDT reply actions
I know that Howard cemented his status as the fave of Caps fans last night.
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Crosby deserves a leadership award!
Unrelated – those Red Wings unis are awesome.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Howard would not necessarily be my top rookie goaltender, although in the spirit of the “last ten games” theme, he certainly could cement that place. Tuukka Rask has better numbers and in his own way has been as important to the Bruins’ playoff hopes as Howard has been to the Wings’. Howard would have the slight edge, perhaps (but not far and away), because of his finishing kick (9-2-1 in his last 12 decisions). Rask is 7-3-0 in his last ten decisions and has the burden of playing behind the worst offense (by a lot) in the league.
If you've read this far...seek help.
I can buy the Rask argument. It’s more against Tavares being a finalist than anything else.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 23, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Rest assured we've not seen the best of Tavares yet...
by J.P. on Mar 23, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The NHL version…
It only takes a minute… for the Islanders to fall behind by three goals.
Heaven must be missing an angel… because Sidney plays in Pittsburgh
Don’t take away the music… just don’t play it so loud that my ears bleed
More than a woman… which means you’re not Danny Briere
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rask has only marginally better numbers than Howard, but has played in a lot fewer games. When the stats are as close as they are I give the edge to the guy who has been a workhorse for his team over the guy who has been a split starter for most of the season.
Rask may have a worse offense in front of him, but he’s also playing in the woeful Eastern Conference, while Howard has had to keep Detroit in the playoff hunt in the far more competitive West. While Detroit is surging now that they are healthy, the biggest reason why they were able to survive the tons of injuries they had was Howard. I think Howard’s ability to help Detroit keep pace with or hold off teams like Colorado, Nashville, Calgary and Anaheim is more impressive than Rask splitting time and staying ahead of the Rangers, Atlanta and Florida.
But I’ve been saying for a while that Howard is my pick for the best rookie, let alone best rookie goalie. I can also see a good argument for Myers winning it, but there is no way that Tavares should be a finalist. There are at least 2 guys that have been more impressive at tougher positions, and someone else who has been better at the same position.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Myers is my guy, but you’ve brought me around on Howard being deserving.
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Pass the Duchy on the Left Hand Side
Myers is pretty good too, I suppose. I still would prefer Duchy…
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
D is just harder to play, and especially the minutes Myers gets. Plus, with his size and frame you’d expect him to develop much slower than he has. It’s more impressive for a 19 year old D to do that, IMO.
But I still do, and always will, think Myers is a giant douche.
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20, but who’s counting?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I always thought Fouche was a good Minister of Police under Napoleon
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Born in the USA, moved to Canada, chose to play internationally for Canada instead of America. Fuck him.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
At what age did he move to Canada?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Pretty young. Somewhere between 5 and 12 IIRC.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Probably sees himself more as a Canadian than an American.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Oh wow, I didn’t know that.
Porcupine!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So he did a reverse-Knuble you are saying?
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 23, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Rask is 7-3-0 in his last ten decisions and has the burden of playing behind the worst offense (by a lot) in the league.
In other news, Zdeno Chara is still overrated.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
And he takes so many PIM! Which is good in real hockey, right?
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
True fact – Chara was drawing up a bunch of plays for the Slovak team in the ‘Lympics. He’d make a fairly imposing bench boss some day. dontcha think?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 7:55 AM EDT up reply actions
See above – treating Alex Ovechkin’s name being associated with a three-year-old award for leadership that’s named after a dirty player as one would if Osama bin Laden was a finalist for a Nobel Peace Prize is riotously funny.
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Sjomin
is this the alternate (better) spelling for Semin in English? when i asked my brother-in-law, who is Russian, how to pronounce Semin, it sounded like “Syomin”.
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I am Finnish, Sjomin is how we spell what comes out as ‘Syomin’. I guess it would be Syomin in English, if anybody used it. Finnish media uses Semin mostly, just us who care too much spell it the right way : P
gotcha. thanks!
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
just us who care too much spell it the right way
I think, if Varlamov had been around when Syomin started with the NHL, we might have a different spelling on the back of his sweater, but not now… it’s too ingrained.
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I read where Semin took Varly aside when he got here and told him to make sure to get the English spelling correct or it would be forever wrong and embarrassing jokes would be made about his name. I heard Varly was much appreciative!
I hadn’t heard about Semin’s intervention on Varly’s behalf. Thank goodness. (A poster had to explain the “jizz” joke to me—tad embarrassing). It’s about time the league and commentators pronounce the Russian names correctly. The Cold War is over—except in Canada apparently. However, I always get a chuckle listening to them attempt VarLAmov’s name.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Pat of pronouncing things correctly is 1) hearing it pronounced correctly, and 2) having an aptitude (ear) for language.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
And part of it is proper transliteration.
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My favorite of those was “Varmlaov” – which was a Lockerism until he learned how to say it…
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"Varmlaov"
i…kind of like it
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought
…I remember reading somewhere that Semin doesn’t even care about getting it corrected. What’s done is done, or something.
"By far the worst performers on the team are in the front office." – Sally Jenkins
He may after all this time, but it was in an interview with Varly that he related Semin telling him to get it right now, otherwise . . .
I am sure with all of the legal documents with Semin on them, it would be an undertaking.
If it were me I'd want it changed.
I also read that the way we say Semin sounds like ‘semen’ in Russian too.
No thanks.
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Well, I would assume if he had it to do over, he would make sure it was correct. Hence, helping Varly. I find it hard to believe that in DC they could not (or did not) find someone to consult about the proper transliteration of the name when he first arrived as an 18-19 year old.
in Cyrillic, Semin is spelled Сёмин. The ё is pronounced “yo,” so yes, “Syomin” is probably the most gramatically correct
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Wait, where’s CapsFan75 here? She needs to tell us that Kovalchuk means Smithson before it’s too late!
by katzistan on Mar 23, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 12 recs
Word.
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I was at work and don’t really have time to post while there.
Don’t think it’s necessary for the boys to translate their names to English. Just transliterate it
Off topic but related. There was once a philanthropist named Smith who had come from Russia. His name in Russia was Schimidov (I assume his ancestors must have been German and migrated to Russia somewhere along the way and Russianized the name which got Anglicized when he came to America.)
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Phonetically correct.
But whatever.
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Arguably?
When John Erskine played in Tampa he was arguably our best defenseman.
Arguably = open to argument. I guess theoretically you could also argue that Rosie O’Donnell is more attractive than Jessica Alba. . . doesn’t mean you’re right, though.
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While I’m sad that Corey lost his job at the Times, does anyone else here think that his work since for CSN is even better? It seems like he’s got some editorial freedom to pursue slightly more interesting stories, rather than simply churn out gamer after gamer.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 23, 2010 8:03 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
If he wanted to be like that guy who covers the Nats for free and solicits donations, I’d send a few bucks his way.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely. Now if CSN would only open up their wallets (I assume that’s the sticking point) and have him do games AND the other stuff he’s doing, I’d be a very happy man.
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Maybe he’s not as TV pretty as Chick. Still, I’ll take his articles and occasional gamers for NHL.com over most of the stuff that’s out there.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be upset if he replaced Alan May, or if they just went to a three-man analysis team with Smokin’, May, and Corey.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not saying put him on the teevee, I’m saying let him write more and recap games.
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Just for the record, in my opinion Pepper narrowly beats out the rest of the contributors here for being “most TV pretty.”
But only if he keeps making that face from his avatar.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 23, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
(but that might just be a New York media bias)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 23, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No way – DMG is a dead-ringer for Robert Pattinson.
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I’m going to pretend you meant “died in the graveyard next to Harry” because he simply doesn’t exist, otherwise.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 23, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow. That’s hysterical. So now are we going to have to do Team Edward and Team Jacob for the pickup games?
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As a Comcast DC subscriber I support this idea. Very good use of my monthly fees.
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I disagree with the Caps’ Mr Potato Head being an embarassing item to own. It’s awesome.
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by apk3000 on Mar 23, 2010 8:08 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Agreed. Got Mrs. YLM one for Christmas, she loved it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
They are absolutely so much fun! I have one too. :-)
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Um, I WANT!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 23, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Semi-related. I would love it if Build-a-Bear could have Caps uniforms available for their creatures. And would them to have a larger lamb. (I hear they have a little curly haired lamb available.) I mean, even the Nats have Build-a-Bear. Why not the Caps?
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From reading Corey’s article about Theo, it occurs to me that Theo’s success is also pretty much coincident with Ovechkin’s accession to the captaincy.
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Ovi is going to be even more of a juggernaut in the playoffs and the rest of the team will tap into that. Can’t wait.
On a somewhat related note, on the Laich possibly pricing himself out of Caps budget convo from yesterday, I wonder how affected Laich is with the knowledge that he will never wear the “C” on this team while Ovi is around. More incentive to move and lead elsewhere once he’s an UFA?
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think he wants a letter bad enough to do that, though? There’s few teams he would be considered for captain, as well. Edmonton, probably, possible TOR or MON…
I don’t doubt he’d be a good captain, but most teams either a) already have a long term captain (Iginla, Brown) or b) have one in waiting (Weber).
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
bad enough to leave? i don’t know. Laich is very tactful with media, so it’s tough to tell how much he wants it. no doubt he wants to win most of all, but i can imagine a scenario where the Caps win the Cup and Laich wanting to take the next step, leadership wise. it all depends on how much more he progresses, but he undoubtedly would be an excellent Captain.
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Tradition seems to be either a) your best player is your captain, or b) a skilled player with a great attitude and long tenure on the team. You can find plenty of exceptions, of course, but I just don’t see Laich going to another team and being named captain in short order.
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makes sense
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t think guys leave teams because the potential Captain pool is deep.
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I don't either
An addendum to my last post would be that it may be more appropriate for Laich to get a letter after his new contract is firmed up.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions
At what point do the overlords give him a letter? Seems to be a similar situation to Nashville last year. Dumont (Poti) was performing very poorly and not really a good leader at all, and he was the guy with the permanent “A”. Trotz promptly took it from him and gave two permanent ones out to Weber (Laich) and Sullivan.
Obviously you don’t want to take Knuble’s “A”, but I definitely think Laich or Backstrom should have a letter.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it makes much sense to have your C and two A’s on the same line.
It makes sense to have at least one on a D-man, though.
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Right, thats a little redundant. I said Lars OR Laich.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom is such a quiet guy… I think he’s just fine sans “A”. Laich is a Knuble-in-training. He’ll get Knuble’s when it’s time. And I do agree that a defenseman should have one, and since Greenie isn’t mature enough, Poti is the only choice.
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I don’t really see Green as the letter type period. Maybe Carlson two or three years down the road?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Carlson or Alzner. Both have been alternates or captains in the past.
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Alzner. He was a Captain of his WHL team for several years and twice a Captain of Team Canada. Carlson wore an A in the WJC but he doesn’t have that same natural leadership or experience from what I’ve seen. But ultimately I think both guys may be a little late. The leadership core of this team is here now, and it’ll be awfully hard to crack it coming along later. We’ll see though.
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Plus you have to make the team first.
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Well it looks like one of the two has made the team. I’ll be shocked, but mostly pissed, if Alzner isn’t on the team out of training camp next year.
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Gotta get Sloan and Erskine their ice time. Otherwise they’ll get rusty.
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Patty McNeill gonna steal a spot.
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Not at all, from the impression I get. He loves it here, although obviously that can change for anybody if the team starts to lose down the road. I’m pretty sure that a winning environment is the most important thing. Short of a huge difference in pay being offered by another team.
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Let’s just make sure Laich’s name is engraved on the Cup as a member of the Capitals Maybe more than once..
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From reading Corey’s article about Theo, it occurs to me that Theo’s success is also pretty much coincident with Ovechkin’s accession to the captaincy.
Let’s not forget the role Irbe has played in Theo’s consistency this season. I think he relates better to Theo and Varly than Dave Pryor since he’s much closer in age and he seems to have added some calm to Theo’s game. You could make the argument that this is the best stretch of games Jose’s played since his Hart year and I bet Irbe has played a significant role.
Theo also had a good stretch of play for Colorado. Also, not coincidentally in my opinion, during a contract year.
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That parallels are striking, let’s just hope he stays healthy. His COL run started in January and was his most consistent play since 2002.
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He played amazingly in the first playoff round against Dallas. The second round against Detroit wasn’t really his fault, since the Avs were essentially icing an AHL team by that point.
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First round was against MIN, IIRC. DET was steamrolling COL and Theo had the flu so I cut him a break for that series even before he became a Cap.
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I also thought that Irbe’s coaching may have helped Theo. I’ve noticed that Theo seems bigger in the net, challenges with more confidence, and has improved his rebound control, especially with pushing the puck into the corner. I don’t know that much about Irbe’s career except that I remember reading that he was a smallish goaltender who always seemed big in the net.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve suspected that another contributing factor to Theo’s recent success may have been his having come to terms (don’t know if that’s the right terminology, but it’ll have to do) w/ the loss of his child and speaking openly about it (e.g. Tarik’s heartbreaking article). Seems the timing on that tracks his recent streak.
I know it’s intangible, but we always talk about goalies’ mental status, and it’s possible Theo was more deeply affected (understandably) by the tragedy than anyone really knew (though many suspected).
In short, he’s now got his mojo back and is focused more than he’s ever been.
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I think that’s true. If you’ve lost people close to you, getting through holidays the first time is especially tough. There was speculation in the blogosphere at the time that perhaps Christmas was proving difficult for Theo. He confirmed that. There would be nothing tougher than going through a first Christmas when you thought a child would be part of it, and isn’t. All of it would be painful. It will be interesting to see how he does as the son’s birthdate approaches. The first year after a significant loss is full of milestones and remembrance of what was happening a year ago leading up to the loss.
I am really enjoying our pledge drive for Theo’s foundation. It’s so much fun to watch each game and count up the saves, plus all the different combinations of “if he gets first star, I’ll give this, if a shutout, I’ll give that,” plus all the special pledges for the Pens game, etc.
It’s keeping me motivated during the stretch run for sure.
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You know its rough when the Wings start getting that physical.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Dirty and unnecessary – hey, let’s nominate him for the Messier Award.
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Since I haven’t followed that at all, I’d assume he was in the first week’s nominations, no?
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Can’t really decide if that was a temper tantrum or just two teams that really, really dislike each other and it spilled over at the end of the game.
Howard did jump in there when Zetterberg and Bertuzzi basically had it under control…
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it’s two teams that hate each other, but Crosby threw an tantrum after the clock expired because his panties were all in a bunch that once again, Zetterberg managed to shut him down (and, oh , Zetters scored twice, too. Gotta sting). It was uncalled for.
Malkin did pretty much the same thing to Zetterberg in the finals last season, except punches were thrown.
I don’t have a problem with what Howard did. “I don’t care who you are, don’t fuck with my teammate.”
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by RedBirdie on Mar 23, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why don’t penalties roll over to the next game? That would keep things under control late in the game. A rule that anything that happens in the last five minutes can be rolled over to the next game, so 2 minute minors or 5 minute majors could be at the start of next.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
well, in the Cup finals incident last year, Malkin should have received an automatic suspension based on being the instigator with less than 5 minutes left. So, that’s carry over. But the suspension was overturned.
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...should have.
But that’s the key part there, isn’t it? And it’s clearly spelled out in the rule book, too:
47.22 Fines and Suspensions – Instigator in Final Five Minutes of Regulation Time (or Anytime in Overtime) – A player who is deemed to be the instigator of an altercation in the final five (5) minutes of regulation time or at anytime in overtime (see 47.12), shall be suspended for one game, pending a review of the incident. When the one-game suspension is imposed, the Coach shall be fined $10,000 – a fine that will double for each subsequent incident.
The suspension shall be served unless, upon review of the incident, the Director of Hockey Operations, at his discretion, deems the incident is not related to the score, previous incidents in the game or prior games, retaliatory in nature, "message sending", etc. The length of suspension will double for each subsequent offense. This suspension shall be served in addition to any other automatic suspensions a player may incur for an accumulation of three or more
instigator penalties.
No team appeals will be permitted either verbally or in writing regarding the assessment of this automatic suspension as all incidents are reviewed by the Director of Hockey Operations as outlined above.
That’s the only reference I can find for a coach being fined for a major penalty “automatically.”
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
“In a city that traditionally has liked fighting goal tenders – Jimmy Howard has joined the list” Gots to love it!
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by CommanderX2 on Mar 23, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Aren’t there two things in hockey that everybody loves — Zambonis and fighting goalies?
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 23, 2010 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Zambonis would be great if they were faster.
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Intermission Jousting…
Put a goalie in each Zamboni… have them go at one another with their goalie sticks. Sort of like a Renaissance festival, but without the turkey drumsticks.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
is the goalie driving the Zamboni, or is he precariously balanced on the body of the Zamboni while his driver attempts to get close enough to allow the goalie to deliver the death blow with crashing into the opposing Zamboni?
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A chain mail bikini? Ooh.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
You will either love Stefan Della Rovere or love to hate Stefan Della Rovere. We’re already solidly in that first camp. [Puck Daddy]
If you haven’t already clicked this link and watched the second video, do it. Do it now. And then smile that the Caps own the rights to that guy.
Awesome. I’ve seen plays like that turn entire playoff series around.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
The outcome of this series was never in doubt. But since the Sudbury Wolves are unable to control the game on the ice, they are now going to try to control the Colts (and SDR) through the OHL disciplinary process:
http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2502682
I don’t think anything will come of it, but jeebus I am tired of Capitals (and future Capitals) getting dragged through the mud. Part of the burden of being the best, I suppose, but it gets tedious.
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It seems as though we’re all going to have to grow thicker skins for this sort of crap and come to expect it, because it’s going to happen, a lot, for as long as Ovi and Sid play in the same league.
As you said, part of the problem with being the best is the number of people who desperately want to see you fall.
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Sounds like they haven’t filed anything yet, so it’s a whole lot of meh. Besides, it’s not like filing a complaint in the O is going to go anywhere.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
For those who know Della Rover’s play, is it a stretch to say he’s a Steve Downie-type of player. And keep in mind that Downie has become a very solid offensive player with Tampa. Or is Downie in another class of dirty?
Downie, unfortunately, seems to have more (much) offensive upside than SDR.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve thought of SDR as being closer to Alex Burrows of the Canucks, although Downie would fit as well.
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If he’s like Alex Burrows, I’m going to want him to, well, eat a f*cking porcupine.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s not owned by NSH, so you will, in all likelihood, at least once a year scream for him to eat a fucking porcupine.
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not necessarily
There’s several pests that I don’t mind too much. Haven’t seen SDR play, so I may like him. I don’t mind guys playing their style—its when they go out of their way to hurt a guy like Burrows did I dislike thing.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Who did Burrows hurt?
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Can you YouTube at school? Worth a watch, if only to laugh at the VAN announcers saying he didn’t leave his feet. Only instance I have ever seen that made Jason Arnott that pissed off. He got a misconduct for repeatedly slamming his fist into AB’s face (who was turtling).
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
The turtling and non-stop yapping is why I hate Burrows. When guys like Clutterbuck, Tootoo, Shelly, and pretty much every other pest/enforcer I’ve ever heard interviewed on the subject say they hate Burrows more than any other player that says a lot to me about what kind of douche he is on the ice.
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I grinned for a week after Tootoo beat him down in the next meeting. So awesome.
Its not the only Preds-Burrows incident. This year Smithson boarded him, and he laid on the ice for about five minutes writhing, which got Smithson a gamer. You can easily see in the replay him looking up to see what was going on, and he was absolutely fine the rest of the game. That was what led to the Auger incident.
Clutterbuck is a good example— I kind of like him, he’s not that dirty and he’s fun to watch.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Delly definitely does not have Downie’s upside offensively. Check out their OHL numbers, for example, or their respective draft positions and there’s not all that much more you need to know about that.
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Exactly, thats what I thought. Which means he most certainly isn’t close to Burrows, scoring wise. And Burrows is a total douche. So there’s that.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Burrows was undrafted. Who knows how guys may or may not develop. SDR has never been asked to play a real offensive role (I mean in terms of scoring) so maybe he does have untapped potential. I’m not counting on it, and of course DC won’t be the place he is asked to start scoring, but seeing what that guy is willing to do I’m not counting him out.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I NEED THE PICTURES FIRST HOLD YOUR HORSES, YOU HAVE A LOT OF THOSE IN NASHVILLE RIGHT?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions
If the boys continue to develop, then I can’t wait for the Delly Sandwich era.
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by oldemystix on Mar 23, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And his bullshit scumbag hack move in the previous WJC was a huge part of turning that game around. CAN was already coming on and his little stunt totally unraveled the Americans. JVR is still a chump.
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To be honest, if he had lit it up for Team USA and helped us win I would be able to temporarily get past the PHI thing. It’s how I am with Zach Parise. But JVR sucked at the WJC. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH… a highlight goal against a patsy combined with invisibility against Team Canada. Thanks for nothing, jerk.
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And I wanted Nashville to draft him so bad. Jordan Schroeder, too.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe Schroeder fell so far. Parise fell as well and it should have been obvious that it was a mistake at the time. I can remember Pierre McGuire taunting the teams that passed him by and praising the NJD. Gah I wish they didn’t get him. At some point I think NCAA players will stop being overlooked, but we aren’t there yet.
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Schroeder absolutely blew up the combine in measurable numbers, right?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 23, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t recall. He’s a little guy so I’d be a little surprised. Plus, his numbers for UM and USA were both real good so if he had the measurable numbers as well I don’t know why he’d fall so far.
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Dirk had us taking Schroeder in the SBN mock draft, and I was pretty pissed we took Ellis so soon. Then we went and took Olivier-Roussel in the second round? Dammit Poile.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. That sounds right. Ellis is legit so I wouldn’t be too bummed out, but there were a couple good forwards available at that spot. Ultimately I think Ellis is probably a safer pick than any of the other available forwards.
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In fairness to Ellis and Poile, its entirely too soon to tell on that draft. I do really like the center we got in the 2nd round, though. I think he’ll be a stud.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
interesting that Evanson would be considered for an award. Isn’t he in charge of the PK? isn’t it in the bottom 5? Dubious (made up) award.
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 23, 2010 9:24 AM EDT reply actions
When I saw that I did a double take. Sorry Dean, but no vote for you until the PK is fixed.
Are they doing a separate one for goaltending coaches?
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I thought Bob Woods was in charge of the PK and defensive duties?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
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Interesting article. I noticed Yanic Perreault, whom F&B once sarcastically called “a noted mountain of a man,” was at the very top of the list. David Steckel, who actually is a noted mountain of a man, ranks third on the list. There is a decent contrast between the two. This made me wonder what the average size of the players on the list is, so I looked into it myself. Assuming my math and sources are correct, the average height of the listed players is 6 feet and a fraction of an inch while the average weight is 198.76 pounds. That seems like a pretty average size to me. Not as revealing as I had hoped. Still, there are enough players on the list who are 5’11" or under, twelve by my count, to deter the size queens (and no, I am not one).
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 23, 2010 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 6 recs
Great stuff, Laichitor. I don’t know how this comment has sat unattended like a dumpster baby for almost 6 hours. I’m gonna get this dumpster baby a tan.
This really demonstrates that face offs (and battling more generally) doesn’t just come down to size. Malkin is atrocious on the dot. Ditto Staal and Yashin. These are all big and skilled guys, but when it comes to getting down and dirty, they just don’t have it. The more we talk about and analyze FOs the more I think it really is just the GAS factor. You get sticks in the face, ribs, legs, wherever. You have to dig in and expend energy. Or, you could swing your stick and hope for the best.
I’ve said the only real time that our centers being smaller than the PIT centers might be a big deal is when they are in a direct one-on-one situation with them, and FOs are one of the few situations when that actually does happen. Maybe our size disadvantage isn’t such a big deal after all. (Now, the fact that the PIT Cs are better from 1-3 is a whole other story.) The Caps are top 5 in the league (or 25th if you are Darren McCarty) in FOs and yet Steckel is the only C we have who is above average size.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 23, 2010 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Chris Chelios winning the Messier makes a mockery of it, if their argument is Ovechkin plays dirty or has a bad attitude/is arrogant/whatever. Chelios is one of the biggest jackasses to play the game.
by galaxysong9 on Mar 23, 2010 9:32 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
On Cup faves – Engblom actually went for the Caps last night.
The line in the CBC article that got me, though:
The Pittsburgh Penguins haven’t taken a step back from last season
Buy or sell? I sell. Their D just doesn’t seem to be as strong as it was last year.
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Caught a few minutes of On the Fly this morning, and they roasted Gonchar’s game last night.
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They have to let him walk after this year. If not, they’re going to be paying out the ass for a player that’s declining fast.
A 2 year deal might work but I know he wants something longer. They need to lock up Letang before even talking to Gooch.
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2 years??? He looks done to me.
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He’s been a huge piece of their team and he’s essential to their PP (FWIW considering how bad it is). You’d think they could use Letang at the point and score on the PP but it hasn’t worked so far. Maybe they just need a new assistant coach. I just have a hard time seeing Gooch being totally done at this point. Maybe he needs the Rob Blake treatment. Bottom pair, PP guy.
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He’s looking really slow. Reminds me of a pitcher who loses velocity late in their career. It seemingly happens overnight with some guys. If you were to keep him around as a bottom paring specialist I don’t know thyat I’d sign him to a multiyear deal.
Yeah, you would think Letang would be great running the point. That PP is like me doing an algebraic equation. It looks nice on paper, but the numbers never add up.
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He does look slower, but speed was never really his game. He had a smooth enough stride to get around but he’s not Lidstrom or Niedermayer out there. I guess him and Pronger are seeing the same thing this year.
Letang has great hands, wheels, and a shot. I just think his shot is wildly inaccurate and he hasn’t quite put all the pieces together yet.
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I wonder if Gonchar isn’t hiding or playing through an injury we don’t know about. That’s what he looks like right now. Some of the plays he made against Detroit last night were inexplicable for a guy with his experience and talent.
I hadn’t considered how god-awful Pittsburgh’s PP might be without Gonch next season! Yikes.
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Well, he was terrible in the Olympics, so at least he’s consistent. Seriously, I hope Gonch stays healthy during the playoffs. He’s that big a liability.
Careful holding the Olympics against any of the Russians too much. That was just a bad team.
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Its not. Go look up their GA/G. Its pretty bad.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
WSH’s GA/G is better than PIT’s, but nobody talks about PIT’s D. Riiiiight.
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Have to agree with JP. I’m glad all the pundits think the Caps don’t have what it takes. Less pressure, less media attention. Makes it easier for the guys to maintain focus. Let ’em say our D stinks, our goalies are suspect, and then move on to dissecting DET or PIT.
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If you read this morning’s Pittsburgh papers, one could come away with a slightly different viewpoint from the CBC article. The Post-Gazette and the Tribune-Review ripped the Pens for being a shadow of their former selves. And for those touting Crosby for MVP consider this gem:
Although Malkin’s numbers this season are down from the lofty standards he has set, his value is becoming increasingly clear. The Penguins are 3-7 in the games he has missed.
Perhaps more alarmingly, Crosby, who is tied with Alex Ovechkin for the NHL goal lead with 45, has produced zero goals and only three assists in the 10 games Malkin has missed.
-Tribune-Review
That is one heck of a statistic. I imagine that means that when Malkin is in the lineup, teams are focusing more on him, probably based on last year, and that’s why Sid’s numbers are so good, especially the increase in goals. When Malkin’s out, he’s the target.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Or it could mean that maybe Malkin is more valuable to the Pens than Crosby. Blasphemy, I know, but it might just be the case.
Well, that too, I was just framing it differently.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
The Pens are definitely not the same team when Malkin is out, but he has been brutal (by his standards) this whole season.
One reason Crosby struggles when Malkin is out, is because the lines are all over the place. Crosby played with like 7 different wingers last night.
Gonch has been awful as of late. And he still wants $5m per?
I was thinking that Ovi ought to do what Filppula did – instead of bringing the puck all the way to the inside, shoot through the legs more. He does sometimes, but not lately that I’ve seen.
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I think defenders have started to expect that move from OV, he’s embarrassed so many of them with it, especially last season. Filppula, not so much.
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They’re cheating inside to prevent the through-the-legs shot and the cut-across-the-grain. He either does a toe drag or just bull rushes from the outside. Ovechkin has done a pretty good job of adjusting to the adjustments.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
What Gonch wants and what Gonch gets are two entirely different things. With the way his play has deteriorated this season, he’ll be lucky to get $3 million. But then again, there’s always some GM who’s willing to overpay for a past-his-prime defenseman.
Shero has both overpaid (Orpik) and let guys go whose new contract was crazy (Scuderi/Gill), so I don’t really know what he’s going to do about Gonchar.
I’ve said all year he’d be crazy to re-sign him at the price he’d be looking for.
The evidence certainly suggests they’ve declined since last season.
Isn’t anyone going to acknowledge that they’re now 2-3-2 in their last seven? Or that they only lost one game in regulation all of March last season? There’s no way you can say they’re playing as well as they did at this time last year. Sure, there are teams that magically flip the switch when the playoffs start like Detroit did two years ago, but I think playing mediocre hockey down the stretch is generally a bad sign.
but I think playing mediocre hockey down the stretch is generally a bad sign
Certainly didn’t work out for the Caps last year.
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they only lost one game in regulation all of March last season?
The Joe Altobelli effect.
No doubt the Pens are struggling a bit right now. But they’ve got plenty of time to turn it around. I’ll never sleep on them.
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Pittsburgh is finishing up the season in a manner eerily similar to the way the Caps did last year… not fully engaged, playing out the string until the playoffs start. They’ll be up for the Caps (twice) and the Flyers, but otherwise play a bunch of tamata cans down the stretch. They’ll slide into second (assuming Marty gets a few nights off for NJD), probably push past Montreal in 4 or 5 games, they get whacked by either Brodeur or Miller in the second round.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sell. The D is not as good, Guerin looks older. MAF could get hot and change things but he hasn’t been great all year.
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Sell!
The Caps have lost their fight and the Pens are the scarier team going into the playoffs right now!
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by J.P. on Mar 23, 2010 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly. I’m in law school because I have no independent talent of my own.
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I thought that’s what business school was for?
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Speaking of AHL specialty unis...
Check out (via Puck Drawn) these Manitoba Moose beauties (no snark) honoring the Canadian Armed Forces:
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These are infinitely more appealing than the camouflage practice jerseys the Caps wore recently.
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At least your team didn’t wear green St. Patty’s Day jerseys for warmups.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I actually really, really liked the Bears’ St. Patty’s Day jerseys this year – of course, I’m a sucker for Celtic knotwork.
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It was cute that even when they wore the red/whit/blue caps jerseys, they still had their chocolate brown hockey pants.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
your morning playoff match-ups.
EAST
(p)Washington vs. Boston (who are 1 pt ahead of Atlanta with a game in hand)
Pittsburgh vs. Montreal
Buffalo vs. Philadelphia
New Jersey vs. Ottawa
WEST
Chicago vs. Detroit (4 pts ahead of Calgary w/ same number of games played)
Phoenix vs. Colorado
Vancouver vs. Nashville
San Jose vs. Los Angeles
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better
much better.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
For sure over SJS. My preferred opponents go like this, for future reference. PHX, CHI, VAN, SJS.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Those are 4 GREAT serieseseseseseses out west.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here. Boston would be a much better draw than some other possibilities. Although Atlanta would be even better.
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Boston has serious goaltending questions in terms of the playoffs… start a Vezina winner, once removed, who has played once in the last six games (and who has a GAA that is more than half a goal a game worse than last year)… or a rookie who seems now to be the number one goalie, who has never played in an NHL playoff game (and don’t use the Varlamov comparison… Varlamov played behind a team that could score goals from time to time).
Not a happy choice. What’s behind door number three, Monty?
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m okay with Boston or Atlanta.
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CAPS will have a lot to say about that with two games left against each team. Interesting if they take care of the Bruins but if the Thrash can pull out a few wins…we could be playing them.
by Direction 87 on Mar 23, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
And BB loves John Anderson… maybe he wants to see his friend have a taste of success (only to slam the door back in his face)?
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Should be fun against Pitt tomorrow. The Pens by rights should be playing with a sense of urgency. If they lose another couple of games, they’re going to be hard pressed to get a #2 seed. Assuming they care about that sort of thing.
I’m thinking more and more the Caps get the B’s or the Thrash.
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I am so torn. My logical side tells me I want the Pens to get the #2 seed so that if the Caps face them it will be in the Conference Finals. However, that means I have to root for Pittsburgh to win and my emotional/hate Pens side tells me I can never do that. What a Sophie’s Choice.
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However, if they’re going to stagger into the playoffs, it might be better to deal with them earlier rather than later. Who knows? I firmly believe that when both teams are in perfect health and playing at the top of their games, the Caps are the better team.
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Pitt is very good when they’re clicking, don’t underestimate that.
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And the Pens usually bring their best when they meet the Caps. I agree that they are always dangerous.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s a bad matchup for the Caps in terms of style of play. Going to be interesting to see what they do tomorrow.
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I think the Caps need to watch what the Wings did last night: play extremely disciplined hockey and draw a bunch of penalties.
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Hope we crack that nut
draw a bunch of penalties.
couldn’t do it in the playoffs last year. then again, they were 2x as active as the Caps were
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I’m ambivalently choosing the lessor of two evils by hoping the Pens keep the no. 2 seed. I think we are unquestionably the better team but there is so much emotional baggage between the Caps and the Pens. Lots of nah, nah, nah stuff. I also don’t want the Caps to have a game 7 hangover if we meet them in the second round. So let the Pens earn their passage to the Conference Finals, and if they don’t I won’t be shedding any tears. Let them get beaten up by other teams first if they are meant to get that far.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you on this one.
Let them keep the #2 seed and get whaled on before we have to deal with them.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 23, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus according to the stats in the fanpost on the President’s Trophy it’s the #4 seed that’s more dangerous.
I find this stat fascinating—maybe it’s meeting another team so closely matched in the first round gets the winning team in a better playoff success mode. I love the unmasking of the jinx too—that 30% with those in first place is still a far better percentage than any of the other spots. It’s human nature I guess to remember the upsets—Sharks last season anyone!
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I might be wrong, but I think the #4 overall team (not conference seed) was the one that was relatively dangerous in the President’s Trophy post, not conference seed. As of now, that’s the Sharks.
My bad. Math is not my thing but I have fun trying to understand the stats. I just won’t ever generate them.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I only figured it out after being puzzled how the 9th place team (Devils) ever won a Cup – then I realized it couldn’t be conference. I also was intrigued by the relatively high incidence of the #4 overall team winning, but really it just means it’s happened two more times (four total) than the #2 or #3 overall team winning (which have each happened twice). Probably random chance, but big hat tip to b.orr4 for doing the legwork.
I’m with you on not wanting the Pens to finish 4th, though. Give them 2nd.
Even if they get the #4 seed, it’s highly unlikely we face them before the ECF. Only way we play them 2nd round would be if all top 4 seeds win.
You had me at no problem.
As crappy as the bottom of the East is this year, I’m thinking it could happen. Can’t remember the last time all 4 top seeds advanced.
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That year the top 3 seeds all LOST.
I’m looking for a year when all the top 4 seeds won…
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amusing stat of the day: points-wise, Pittsburgh is closer to 8th place than 1st.
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With these matchups, Washington and Pittsburgh probably make short work of their opponents, as should Jersey against a slumping Ottawa team. Buffalo and Philly could be interesting. And it could set up for Caps fans as rooting for Philly so that the Penguins and Devils meet in the second round.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
but again, looking strictly at points, Pittsburgh isn’t that much better than Montreal (or whoever ends up 7th).
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I wouldn’t count Montreal out. That’s likely to be a good series – Halak is sharp and they can score. I think that comes down to who’s got the better D corps.
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And they’re getting Cammalleri back, who’s quite an underrated player. Sutter is an idiot for choosing Bouwmeester when he already had Phaneuf/Regehr/Giordano.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, Phaneuf kinda blows and he traded him. But he could have made that trade in the off-season and kept Cammalleri and gotten J-Bo (also overrated).
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Phaneuf has the skills-whether he’ll ever realize them is another question. Either way, Sutter’s an idiot.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He should have never traded for Jokinen last year. Then he could have gotten J-Bo and kept both Phaneuf and Cammalleri.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This is my favorite West matchup. I hope it ends like this. LAK will give SJS all they can handle, COL/PHX will be amazing, NSH will embarrass Luongo without Team Canada there to bail his ass out, and DET is going to make CHI shit bricks.
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I really do think Vancouver is vulnerable. We don’t match up as well with them as CHI, but they seem more ripe for a fall. I’m not impressed with their defense at all. Our ability to roll four scoring lines could really tax them.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
not to mention
The massive advantage Barry Trotz has on Alaign Vigneault (sp?). In more ways than one…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful
with using “ripe for a fall” around here.
But I agree that VAN isn’t very scary right now. Luongo has been shaky since the Olympics and his team hasn’t been hiding the cracks that well.
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ha
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Not many people notice, but we’re only 3 points back of the Canucks, yet they get so many more accolades. Oh well. Maybe someone will notice when we scare all hell out of an “elite” team.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s worth the wait. Enjoy your anonymity.
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So regarding the Kaberle rumor, is there any way Burke wouldn’t have jumped to accept that offer (assuming no veto by Kaberle)? Seems absurdly rich to me.
You’d think yes, but I can’t see Burke having any desire to acquire a player like Flash.
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He spent a boatload on Kessel, who is fast and inconsistent, much like Flash.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
so is Komisarek
noticing a trend…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Kessel is also ridiculously more talented than Flash. And younger.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Thats obvious; I was just pointing out that Kessel isn’t even remotely truculent.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
too soon?
but I still lol’d.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Kessel has 30+ goals twice now and Flash just got 20. Flash is maybe a poor man’s Phil Kessel.
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Flash is a poor man's Dmitri Kristich
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Laich took a puck to the face in practice: http://twitter.com/TarikElBashir/status/10930336326
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
No truth to the rumor that Flash was offering him a tuna sandwich at the time of the incident.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Ow?
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 23, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Iron Brooks. I hope he didn’t hurt the puck too bad.
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I’m appropriately horrified. NOT HIS FACE!
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So #Caps F Brooks Laich had a puck hit the crossbar and rebound off his cheek. John Carlson took the shot. Laich headed for stitches.
Ouch!
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by kellobellow on Mar 23, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He can’t stop killing Canadians!
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by jordanDC on Mar 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 22 recs
The Wawota Neighborhood Watch has mobilized and is moving towards the border…
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by EmilyB on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Best reply yet!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
So nice Wysh decided to use it, apparently.
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boo that man!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Green’d!
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I propose making Carlson sit out the same amount of games Laich misses if he’s significantly injured.
/Rocky Wirtz
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by bigeugene on Mar 23, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Darn you John Carlson and your love of hitting crossbars!
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by EmilyB on Mar 23, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
How many crossbars and posts is that kid going to hit before he puts one in?
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by gotsparkly on Mar 23, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He’s headed for the hospital now for x-rays.
I’m praying it’s not a broken orbital bone…
You had me at no problem.
Agreed, anyone’s face but his!
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by mrszilla on Mar 23, 2010 12:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Screw the scars, I hope he can play tomorrow.
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Geez—I hope he’s okay. I read the twitter after I responded.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 23, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
The puck is expected to be out for 6-8 weeks.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Does that mean Colie makes Brooks sit for 2 games?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 23, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Club Scarlet at DefCon 1. All NoVa plastic surgeons being rounded up in Club Scarlet vehicles to be shuttled to KCI immediately.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A conversation…
BB: “Brooksie, that looks pretty bad. I’m gonna sit you for Lainger tomorrow night.”
BL: “butbutbutbutbutbut…”
BB: “yeah?”
BL: “It’s PITTSBURGH!”
BB: “Just another game, right?… what’s the big deal?”
BL: “#@%&!”
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by ThePeerless on Mar 23, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Per Tarik – Laich is off to the hospital to get X-rays. Let’s hope it’s just a cut and the puck didn’t break a cheekbone.
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Oh jeez. fingers crossed
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From Tarik
The team has not provided an official update on Brooks Laich, who was struck in the face by a puck this morning. I do not know the extent of his injuries, but I’m hearing that he’s expected to be okay and will be reevaluated tomorrow morning before the team decides whether he can face the Penguins.
That was my only optmistic thought..
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by mrszilla on Mar 23, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
from steinz:
Corey Masisak asked whether Boudreau has more confidence in Theodore for this year’s playoff run than he did a year ago.
“Well, I don’t now, that’s three weeks from now,” the coach said. “I’ll tell you three weeks from now how much confidence I have in anybody.”
sure you will, bruce. sure you will.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 23, 2010 12:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
The lunacy coming from the Second City continues
Rocky Wirtz now shares his thoughts on Ovi-Campbell. Maybe he’s more like his old man that I thought.
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Oh, now this whole thing from Chicago is coming perilously close to whining. Maybe randy Carlyle was on to something.
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Biggest GOTY for the ’Yotes tonight, eh CP? Win this, may win conference. Holy CRAP.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Possibly. I still think the Hawks will win the West. They’ve got 2 games in hand on the Yotes.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope so too. But I have to admit, it’d be such an awesome up yours to Canada if Phoenix won the conference.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Phoenix win the conference, for exactly this reason. It’d be a feel-good story and a lovely up-yours to a lot of people.
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I’m right there with you two.
I’d like it even more if this is the year they finally win a round in the playoffs. That would do more good than anything.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
This is lol-worthy. It’s as if he’s a caller to NHL Live or something.
If any one of our great players put Ovechkin out for the season, he should be out for the season, too
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by his logic, ov should not have been suspended for his hit on gleason or kaleta. therefore he would not have been a repeat offender and thus this would have been viewed as just an unfortunate incident and not a pattern of bad behavior.
plus there would be no arguement against his nomination for the messier award.
btw, how is it that there is an award for mess, but none for gretz, howe or orr?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
What would the Gordie Howe award be given for?
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well, it might have been for the most goals in a season or points. toughness, perserverence, etc. i mean the guy was the top scorer in the league for a long time.
they could have found something.
i think the orr award for best offensive defensemen is long overdue. you’ve got a selke, why not an orr?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 23, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I cringe every time I hear “A guy should be out as long as the guy he injured is.” First off, it’s as dumb as penalizing the result rather than the hit because, well, that’s exactly what it’s doing.
More to the point of my revulsion to it, however, is its impracticality and what it incentivizes. “Uh, yeah… our team doc says he’s not ready yet so, um, your guy has to keep sitting.” Silly.
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I think it should have been applied in the Bertuzzi incident, though.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 23, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I think Bertuzzi should’ve been kicked out of the League, so I guess that would’ve achieved the same end, though I still disagree on the means.
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Some people would say the same if Brian Campbell had had a neck injury of some sort and couldn’t play again.
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And some people would be foolish.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Right, those people would be idiots (for lack of a better term).
Bertuzzi’s was a premeditated (for days, at least) battery on an unknowing and unwilling victim, after Moore had already complied with “The Code” and fought earlier in the game and with absolutely no mercy shown after the initial contact. To compare that to what Ovechkin did would likely be the single stupidest thing anyone had ever written in their career.
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I was tempted to use a particular obscenity, myself.
You summed it up well, and to be honest, there isn’t a single comparable event in NHL history that I know of.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree on the means and justification. You don’t kick out Bert because Moore’s career was ended. You kick out Bert for being a fucking ape that can’t operate within the confines of NHL rules, norms, or anything remotely approaching civility or respect.
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unrelated
sort of—
You’ve said you don’t know much about Colin Wilson, etc-was listening to his AHL coach on Sunday and he said he was “Todd Bertuzzi with speed and redeeming qualities”. For whatever thats worth. I really don’t pay much attention to Bert, his skill set, or anything, so I can’t really comment.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Bert has all the tools. He can skate, has hands, size, all that. He just never put it together and then went and did that thing.
With NYI he was always just around the corner.
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Bert put it together for a couple years. He was an elite power forward with the Canucks in the couple years before he became hockey punch guy.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
02-03
46/51/97 144 PIM
That’s pre-lockout. Just insane. He was an effing beast.
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back when he skated with B.Mo and Naslund, correct?
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That was a great line to watch back then
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 23, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s completely illogical
You punish people for decision-making and likely outcome. Not actual outcome.
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We don’t keep Nicky around for his interviews.
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So, the article about the goal song claims that we should use one that incorporates the “1-2-3, it’s all your fault.”
There’s a difference between a song that you want to listen to because you are amped about a goal, and one that is designed to get 18,000 chanting along. They picked the right one for the latter category, but no matter what they chose, it’s never going to be given a chance by enough fans without additional Caps PR support.
The only goal two goal songs that get everyone to cheer along are “zombie nation” and “rock and roll part 2” but apparently those are not good enough according to the Caps (I know they didn’t like the YOU SUCK in rock and roll part 2).
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Oh I agree, but alot of arenas stopped playing the song after he was convicted
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Gilbert went to trial?
I want to be your honey but I got a sweet tooth
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
“All your fault” is a neat cheer, but no way it’ll ever get Caps support. Even CSN politely ignores it during gamecasts.
You had me at no problem.
Both songs aren’t good, however the Redline Addiction one is marginally more listenable.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 23, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I see there being a huge difference in listenable and …participatory. Those who selected the song that was chosen were not going for the “Shhhhh everyone, the song’s on!” reaction.
Either way, neither song is going to please enough people to take off on their own without more support from the Caps Production group.
Sorry, but the supposed participatory cheer portion of the chorus is so weak it defies description.
“Hey, Rock the Red” makes me pine for “Ice Breakers, Goal Shakers”. That is not a good thing.
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My Vote for the New Goal Song
Goes to this. Skip forward to about the 1:OO mark.
Yes, it’s about soccer. But it still rules and would get the crowd going.
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I like it. I think I like the video montage that goes with it better.
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 24, 2010 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Fine. I'll take a shot.
To the tune of “Muskrat Ramble:”
Well, it’s one, two, three
Hey goalie, it’s all your fault!
You there in the pads and mask,
The Caps’ll knock you on your ass.
Well it’s five, six, seven,
Hey, you’re a sieve tonight!
C’mon, Caps fans, let’s grab our things
and go get some wings.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
For those who care – Bleacher Report is pretty impressed with the Caps’ second half.
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Thought I'd bring over the stuff on Fehr:
!!!!Warning: Wall of text below!!!!a Merging of several posts for yesterday’s Ups and Downs not a whole lot saw. In regards to clutch performance:
Comparing Mike Green, Brooks Laich, Tomas Fleischmann, and Eric Fehr under this standard: A player is awarded 1 point for each of the following goals: gwg, gtg, come back goal(G-CB), goal in OT(OT-G), goal in SO(SO-G), multi-goal game, SHG, PPG, and first to score (FTS). A player can receive multiple points for 1 goal, example being: a goal scored in OT will also be the GWG and be worth 2 points, if it was also scored on the PP it would be worth 3 points. As per some request yesterday I also added Empty Net Goals, the average of points per goal, and points per 60. Further below is the subtraction of PPG as some didn’t feel they were particularly clutch.
Come back goals are awarded anytime the player scores when the team is losing, not neccissarily his goal led to a win.
Brooks Laich – 25 goals on the year. 31 points. 3 – GWG, 1-GTG, 6-G-CB, 1-OT-G, 0-SO-G, 6 MGG, 1 SHG, 11 PPG, 2 FTS, 1 ENG…..1.25 pts/g….104.7 pts/60
Eric Fehr – 20 goals on the year. 20 points. 3 – GWG, 3 – GTG, 5 – G-CB, 0 – OT-G, 0 – SO-G, 1 – MGG, 0 – SHG, 3- PPG, 5 – FTS, 0 ENG……1 pts/g…..99.0 pts/60
Tomas Flash – 21 goals on the year. 26 points. 4 – GWG, 0 – GTG, 5 G-CB, 1 – OT-G, 0 – SO-G, 3 – MGG, 0 – SHG, 7 – PPG, 6 – FTS. 0 – ENG…..1.238 pts/g….95.8 pts/60
Mike Green – 17 goals on the year. 23 Points. 3 – GWG, 1 – GTG, 6 – CB-G, 1 – OT-G, 0 – SO-g, 2 – MGG, 0 – SHG, 9 – PPG, 1 – FTS. 1 – ENG……1.353 pts/g….56.8 pts/60***
Remember Green is a D and plays a lot more minutes than any of the other players.
Without PPG’s:
Eric Fehr: 20 goals, 17 points….0.85 pts per goal…84.2 pts/60
Tomas Fleischmann: 21 goals, 19 points….0.905 pts per goal…70.1 pts/60
Brooks Laich: 24 goals, 20 points…. 0.8333 pts per goal…68.7 pts/60
Mike Green: 17 goals, 15 points. ….0.882 pts per goal…35.5 pts/60
In a full game of mostly 5 on 5 or 4 on 4, Fehr is the most clutch. I make this assumption noting the lack of PPGs in this data set and therefore most of these numbers would then of come on the PK, or at even strength, or 4 on 4.
However including the Power Play Brooks Laich seems to be the guy to have. Now it is worth noting that of all these players Brooks Laich also averages the 2nd most PP time per game at 2:57 behind Mike Green’s 5:03. Flash averages 2:38, Fehr just 1:27. However: as far as more discerning TOI goes Laich averages 6 seconds less time on ice Short handed than Mike Green does at 2:06 a game. Fehr does not receive any PK time. So while Laich’s avg TOI is the highest of the forwards compared, he losses a lot of time on possible offensive chances by being on the PK which is not taken into account for and thusly hurts him
Furthermore: Stats are fun, but should be taken with a grain of salt. Its been a few years since my days in calculus, but an actual statistician could probably take the set of data I pulled and twist it to saying Fehr is better than Ovechkin. So while this data is interesting there are always things to consider
Nothing.
by breaklance on Mar 23, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Interesting stuff. Next time I suggest making a fanpost though.
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He still should, IMO. Let everyone focus on it and pick at it to work out the kinks.
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If I remember correctly, Fehr has 3 goals during 6 on 5s. That’s as clutch as can be for my money.
I wonder how many times the Caps have lost in regulation but Fehr has scored?
President and sole member of the Erskine lobby.
The team’s 15-3-1 when Fehr scores.
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Yeah…I’m pretty terrified of this story. Not because I suspect any (current or former) Caps specifically, but I would be very distraught if they were true, even putting aside any bashing or punishment that might occur. I love this team, and the mere idea of any such involvement is scary.
That’s right, I gave steroids to al-l-l-l-l the Capitals… uh, Alex Ovechkin… and uh, Alex Crosby… uh… oh, yeah, and even Alex Gretzky. And even my wife, Morgan Fairchild…. who I’ve seen naked….
If you've read this far...seek help.
Schultz has been playing “bigger” this year, and now known as “Mr Nasty” for his quick angry mood swings and vicious play.
I’m sure they’ll open his locker and a wall of syringes will fall out.
Wait, on second thought, no, I don’t think so atoll.
And neveryoumind where “Tackleberry” came from. Man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.
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Nah. It more than likely is. It’s not going to stop the haters, though, and mostly I’m just tired of the haters.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 23, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I find this troubling… though we know most of our biggest stars pee clean… they were tested at the olympics.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on Mar 23, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
In case you guys wanted to chime in here…
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I’m sorry, but when I read about southern law enforcement officers coming north, I can help but envision that parole officer in last night’s episode of “24”. Think George strangles them in the Zamboni garage at Kettler?
“George, what happened to the police?”
“What police?”
“The police who came up from Florida. To talk to you about the steroids.”
“No police ever came here.”
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by RedBirdie on Mar 23, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe I’m slow but what are detectives from Florida doing up here anyhow? I can understand if it was the Feds or even Arlington County detectives (accompanied by the FL guys) but aren’t they out of their jurisdiction?
by Gin and Tonic on Mar 23, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
The guy was arrested in florida and his business was is VA, the charges involve crossing state lines, and there were US Marshalls with them.
Aim for the head baby Jesus
For those interested, here’s the Caps official statement:
Florida law enforcement authorities have continued their steroid investigation following the arrest of Florida resident Richard Thomas in May 2009. The Washington Capitals are not the target of this investigation, and there is no evidence that steroids were provided to any Capitals players.
This has been a thorough investigation, and we are satisfied that law enforcement, the NHL and our own internal investigation have not led to any link of steroid use by Capitals players.
The investigation included conversations with the Washington Capitals as far back as September 2009, and we were and have been fully cooperative and transparent in the past as well as today.
Dr. Douglas Owen Nagel, a Virginia chiropractor who was arrested today, is not affiliated with the Washington Capitals and is not the "team chiropractor," as he has stated. Dr. Nagel’s office, however, has seen some of our players for standard, routine chiropractic services.
As part of the NHL’s drug policy, Capitals players are randomly tested up to three times per year by an independent testing agency, which sends the samples to the World Anti Doping Association for testing. Capitals players have been tested twice so far this year. At no time in our history has a Capitals player ever tested positive
Actually the chiropractor was arrested at his home in Reston, VA. I know that the US Marshals had personnel accompanying the FL officers, I was just curious why there were no Arlington County detectives present. Or why the Feds (ICE, FBI, etc) weren’t the lead on the case.
by Gin and Tonic on Mar 23, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone ever check out ESPN’s trophy tracker? Obviously it’s not great…it’s ESPN, after all, and I’m not even sure how they determine the criteria for this. But I like to check it out every now and again.
As of this morning, they’ve got Ovie for Art Ross and Hart (with Backstrom second in the Hart race), Greenie for Norris, and Bruce for Jack Adams.
Wouldn’t that be nice.
DC Landing Strip - Waxed and Ready to Go
Also, there’s no way Boudreau wins the Jack Adams over Tippett, nor should he.
DC Landing Strip - Waxed and Ready to Go
With as much talent as is on this team I don’t think Bruce could ever win another Jack Adams unless something crazy happened. Such as Ovi being out for a few months and the Caps still winning the Presidents Trophy
Aim for the head baby Jesus
Ovi for Ross, Miller for Hart, Tippet for Adams. Norris is tough – I could make a legit argument for a fair number of guys. Keith, Lidstrom, Ehrhoff, Pronger, Green and maybe even Doughty. I’m probably forgetting one or two more.
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Backstrom for Conn Smythe
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by jordanDC on Mar 23, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Ehrhoff?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Boo Miller for Hart. Too many other goalies putting up similar numbers. He can settle with the Vezina.
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I love Ryan Miller unequivocally after the Olympics, but you could say that Vokoun has been better this year, and Bryz.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 23, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. They are all having great years. Unless a goalie blows away the rest of the goalies I can’t give him the Hart.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
First half of the season he definitely deserved it, but he’s come back to the pack too much to deserve consideration now.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
i always look forward to your well-reasoned, well-explained hatred of mike green.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 23, 2010 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry, but any site that has Dave Tippett fourth in the Adams should be dismissed out of hand. He should finish first… and second, and third.
If you've read this far...seek help.
yeah, it’s not even a race this year.
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did Barry Melrose put that togetehr? Jesus, there’s a lot of over-the-top Caps love!
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Poor Neuvy can’t catch a break. From Tim Leone:
Hershey Bears goalie Michal Neuvirth, who left Friday’s Albany game after re-aggravating a lower-body injury, participated in Tuesday’s optional practice at Hersheypark Arena.
Until Garrett Mitchell collided with him during a one-on-one shooting drill. The junior eligible forward lost an edge and submarined into Neuvirth’s pads.
“Obviously by accident,” Bears head coach Mark French said.
Neuvirth appeared shaken up and consulted with Washington Capitals goalie coach Arturs Irbe and Bears head trainer Dan “Beaker” Stuck on the bench before heading to the locker room. Stuck said Neuvirth was OK and hadn’t been slated to participate in the whole workout, anyway, so he just sent him off about 10 minutes earlier than scheduled.
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The junior eligible forward lost an edge and submarined into Neuvirth’s pads.
apparently he watched the Semin shootout and thought it was what the cool kids do
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by ns on Mar 23, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He just came up from juniors after Cody’s team knocked the Regina Pats out of the playoffs. He was Jordan Eberle’s teammate there.
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SDR update
I will post an update to the Farm Report, but the OHL has announced the following suspensions from the various fracases at the Colts’ game on Sunday:
The Ontario Hockey League today announced the results of its review of separate incidents which occurred in the game played in Barrie on the 21st of March, 2010 involving the Colts and the visiting Sudbury Wolves Hockey Club.
Zac Rinaldo [ed. – Barrie Colts enforcer. He boarded Sudbury Wolves’ coaches’ kid]
The incident reviewed was a 5 minute major and game misconduct for interference assessed to player Zac Rinaldo of the Barrie Colts Hockey Club. In reviewing the incident, it is the position of the League that a player must at all times respect his opponent, especially when the opposition player is in a vulnerable position on the ice. As a result of his actions, player Zac Rinaldo shall be suspended for twelve (12) games.
Jared Staal [ed. – Sudbury Wolves player and yes, one of “those” Staals.]
The incident reviewed was a bullying action by player Jared Staal of the Sudbury Wolves Hockey Club and his involvement with player Alexander Burmistrov of the Barrie Colts Hockey Club. As a result of his actions, player Jared Staal shall be suspended for five (5) games.
Kain Allicock [ed. – Sudbury Wolves’ goon and the guy who clocked SDR in the faceoff circle]
The incident reviewed was a game misconduct assessed to player Kain Allicock of the Sudbury Wolves Hockey Club for his bullying actions. As a result of his actions, player Kain Allicock shall be suspended for five (5) games.
As I expected, no action on SDR and his alleged provocations. Fight on, Delly!
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The Wolves’ season is done tomorrow night when they face the Colts one last time. I suspect the Colts will miss having Rinaldo around thru most of the rest of their playoff run, but he’s not a skill guy. Delly may have to pick up some of the enforcer slack I guess.
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I think Barrie will survive for the short term. They seem to be dominant right through the lineup, they should be able to cope with the loss of a non-scorer.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Definitely a Happy Birthday to one of my all time favourite Caps and the inspiration for my name on here
May, 1987: Before meatballs were served to luncheon guests, Swedish Ambassador Wilhelm Wachtmeister gave his approval to Gustafsson’s return [to the Caps], calling him “a good ambassador for Sweden in this country.” The embassy office room was decorated with Swedish newspaper clippings of Gustafsson’s heroics in the world championships…..
“I think he wants to add the Stanley Cup to the world championship,” [GM David] Poile said of Gustafsson.
The Stanley Cup also was on [Abe] Pollin’s mind. On the phone with Gustafsson, the owner asked, “When we win the Cup, what kind of beer do you drink?”
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsbog/2008/06/best_of_bengt.html
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Caps make statement on 'roid doctor.
Via @cmasisak22
#Caps statement denies Dr. Nagel is “team chiropractor” but he “has seen some of our players for standard, routine chiropractic services.”
WaPo article on the subject:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/23/AR2010032302421.html
Here’s the full statement from the Caps:
Florida law enforcement authorities have continued their steroid investigation following the arrest of Florida resident Richard Thomas in May 2009. The Washington Capitals are not the target of this investigation, and there is no evidence that steroids were provided to any Capitals players.
This has been a thorough investigation, and we are satisfied that law enforcement, the NHL and our own internal investigation have not led to any link of steroid use by Capitals players.
The investigation included conversations with the Washington Capitals as far back as September 2009, and we were and have been fully cooperative and transparent in the past as well as today.
Dr. Douglas Owen Nagel, a Virginia chiropractor who was arrested today, is not affiliated with the Washington Capitals and is not the "team chiropractor," as he has stated. Dr. Nagel’s office, however, has seen some of our players for standard, routine chiropractic services.
As part of the NHL’s drug policy, Capitals players are randomly tested up to three times per year by an independent testing agency, which sends the samples to the World Anti Doping Association for testing. Capitals players have been tested twice so far this year. At no time in our history has a Capitals player ever tested positive.
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Oops! I see Becca H posted on this just before I commented.
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which crack investigative reporter covering the team is going to figure out which players were seeing nagel? not TEB.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 23, 2010 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
It should also be noted that the media guide contains no mention of the guy and the claim of being the “team chiropractor” originated from his office. Sounds to me that a few Caps over the years may have been in his office and he used that to claim an affiliation with the team.
by Gin and Tonic on Mar 23, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
From a marketing standpoint, I can understand it, but it’s too bad someone didn’t notice it sooner and say something, because you’d think the team would be wary of something like that. Especially as they weren’t getting any sponsorship dollars (cynic in me snarking there).
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Brooks Laich face injury will be reevaluated tomorrow.
I do not know the extent of his injuries, but I’m hearing that he’s expected to be okay
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More of the story:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/23/AR2010032303882.html
Sounds like Brooksie was in some serious pain.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
So Darcy Tucker gets suspended for “excessive physical contact.” Weird, never saw that in the rulebook. Woulda thought the NHL could have used that rule before at some point. Can’t put my finger on it…
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Not to ruin a nice shot at Colin Campbell, but it was excessive physical contact on an icing play. Didn’t the NHL put in a rule about that after the Foster incident?
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Mar 23, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember this headline as if it were only yesterday. Oh, wait.
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