Saturday Caps Clips: Caps @ Lightning Game Day
by J.P. on Mar 20, 2010 8:40 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's game against the Bolts from Vogs, Peerless, CSN Washington and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Raw Charge for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- To refresh your memory, this is the sixth and final meeting of the season between the Caps and Lightning on the season, with the Caps winning 3-0, 3-2 and 5-4 games and taking a 7-4 loss in Tampa and a 3-2 defeat at home last week.
- Breaking down the Eastern Conference as the end draws nigh. [Corey Masisak]
- The key to the Caps' power-play success? The system. And the talent. But mostly the system. And the talent. [NHL.com]
- Anything below $6.9 million per year would be a steal for Nicklas Backstrom? Yikes. [A Capital Offense]
- And the Hart Trophy winner is... guess. [Star]
- An interview with Alex Ovechkin's mother - worth clicking through just for the picture of young Alex and Gheorghe Muresan. No? [RMNB, Alex Ovetjkin]
- If you can stomach Mike Milbury talking to Colin Campbell (they mention the Ovechkin suspension), more power to you. [Puck Daddy]
- The Bears cruised to an 8-2 win last night for their franchise-best 52nd win of the season... with a dozen left to play. [Patriot-News]
- Is Cody Eakin the Caps' best pick from the 2009 draft? Ask me again in five years. [The Hockey News]
- Speakin' of Eakin, he was named to the All-WHL Eastern Conference second team, while fellow Caps prospect Dan Dunn was named the third-team All-WCHA goaltender.
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Maybe it's just my computer
but the link for Vogs’ preview is taking me to NHL.com’s preview.
I agree with the possibility they put out, that Ovechkin will come out and have a big game, along the lines of a hat-trick maybe?
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Fixed, and a couple more links were thrown in as penance.
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Give me Orlov.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Make the case. We have Green and Carlson. I’ll take the C who actually produces against pros and knows how to play in his own end.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 20, 2010 3:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Orlov’s not a center anyhow but an offensive defenseman. Guess that means, the eagle will replace the crow in the long run.
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F&B’s point is that Eakin has potential in an area of organizational weakness, whereas Orlov’s skillset is somewhat redundant (obviously you can never have too much depth on D, but you get my point).
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Look, Mackan excites me, but he ain’t Nick Backstrom. Sounds to me like his highest possible upside is Jordan Staal. Nothing wrong with that (in fact, I’d be thrilled), but Orlov could be a great 2-way puck moving defenseman.
And I don’t believe in worrying about “need” when you’re projecting out players who, if you’re lucky, will contribute in 2 years and come into their own in 4. Those guys are so young, I think the only question is who is the better player.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Based on the WJC and their pro stats I think Mackan is better than Orlov and will be better than Orlov. Mackan is no Nick Backstrom, but Orlov is no Mike Green. Mackan’s game is better all around than Orlov’s. I will also be lower on Orlov the longer he stays in Russia. Sweden does a far better job of developing players IMO.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 20, 2010 5:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’m hoping to see more from Mackan in these playoff games. He had a pp assist but went -1 in the first game (a 3-2 loss), and was on ice for no goals for or against in their 3-2 OT win today. Though Coach Samuelsson moved him back to C for the game today.
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Two comments on a couple of the links.
One: As much fun (?) as it is to track the awards in the prognosticators’ articles, for the most part, these are the guys who are doing the voting, so if someone wants to track it, you can pretty much figure out who’s winning before it’s announced. It’s all a sort of campaigning by interested parties that aren’t the players.
Two: That number for Backstrom? Not out of the realm of reality the way he’s been playing, is it? Gulp! And no doubt worth every penny. Just how much less than Crosby is he worth? Probably only to the extent he’s not the face of the franchise. (Good thing I’m not doing the negotiating, isn’t it?)
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Its very hard to argue against Backstrom deserving $6.9+. I think almost everybody would agree that he has to re-signed.
Mike Green will be a polarizing topic when his contract is up. His numbers are retarded good.
I think most of us are hoping that it’s like a 20-year deal or something. In that case I don’t think he’s worth a cap hit of $7 million or more per year. But even up to twelve years I think $7 million is reasonable, though I don’t doubt GMGM can get him for less, partly because of that guy (what’s his name now?) who plays on Backstrom’s left.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder if the Caps aren’t wishing they’d been the smart ones to come up with the frontloaded lifetime contract. If they had both agreed to add another five years for relative peanuts, the cap hit for that guy on the left could have been a lot lower.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Doesn’t work with 22-year-olds.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s why I said add five, and I probably overstated the cap savings (but could have easily worked out to $1 mil plus). Would take him to 40. Hey, at the time who thought he’d sign for 13 years?
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(psssst – not a word we like to see around here)
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I was really hoping we’d be able to sign him for Kane/Toews money, but that went out the door sometime around the Olympic break. If we could get him for under 7 mil, I’ll be happy and surprised. Not to imply we’d overpay at that price, but that’s a hefty chunk of change in the salary cap era.
The more I think about the coming cap situation and re-signings, the more I’m convinced that Semin is traded either before the draft or at the deadline next season. Gotta make room for the guys like Green to get a raise (he’s earned it and then some), Carlson’s going to get a raise when he gets to his RFA years, I’m sure Fehr and Schultz do as well. I don’t think committing well more than half of our salary cap going forward to four players is something GMGM is going to do.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Better win that Cup this year and/or next, because it’s going to be tough to keep the whole gang together. Odds are that it can’t happen long term.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I know it will be hard to keep the whole gang together but ….
Here’s my try.
Dear Nicky, Sasha, Eric, Tomas, Brooks, and Jeff,
I know you wish to be paid market value for your heroics in hockey. However, the teams who have the Cap space to pay you probably also are lower in the standings and/or are low budget teams. Plus, you won’t get to play with Ovi. Remaining with the Caps is probably the way to get more championships rather than going elsewhere.
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by J.P. on Mar 20, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
NHL Shop is willing to try anything, I guess.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
crap
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Don’t like this. The Capitals’ colors are red, sometimes white, with a little bit of blue. This look like they took the Rangers bikini and sewed on a Weagle.
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by SmallZ827 on Mar 20, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i’m actually tempted to get the Canucks one….
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by ThePeerless on Mar 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh, they could’ve done better.
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I found something that should brighten Fehr & Balanced’s day:
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I had no idea there was another one! Is he “owned” by an NHL team?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Phoenix, I believe.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 20, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
that's correct
Hockey’s Future:
Despite a similar frame to his older brothers, Staal’s skill level is not quite as developed. He is tough along the boards and knows how to play a very physical game, however, he will need to improve his skating and puck handling to make it as an NHL winger.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Jared Staal was taken 49 overall in the 2008 draft. Caps got Braden Holtby, Dmitri Kugryshev and Stefan Della Rovere after him. Gotta love that draft.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Truth on the skating part. He was pretty damn slow at the rookie camp session I saw him at last year.
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I’m under the impression that Jared is the least talented for the brothers. is that the consensus in Phoenix?
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He’s the only one not picked in the 1st round…I suppose there’s something to that.
(By the way, in today’s morning links at Five For Howling, Travis Hair, their author, decreed that pictures need to have titles. Where have I seen that before?)
Check this out. I guess they’re not exactly raving about Jared Staal…
CP2Devil, that place really looks like a ghost blog. That’s too bad.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that there is a consensus or not. I’d agree that at this point he seems to be the least talented of the bunch. However, he’s still very young and raw. What I saw at rookie camp certainly wasn’t impressive. Probably was worse than even I thought as the talent pool at that camp was thin. Given the lack of prospect depth the Yotes have he may get a longer look than normal down the road.
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CP2Devil, that place really looks like a ghost blog. That’s too bad
Keep in mind Travis’s blog doesn’t get anywhere near the traffic JR does for a variety of reasons. First off, the local paper doesn’t link to blogs like the Post folks do. I wonder how many people here first found this place because they linked from the Post at some point. Second, the Caps do a great job with the blog community. The PR staff is second to none I’ve seen. Third, I wouldn’t even have known Travis’s blog exists if I didn’t hang out here. Keep in mind I’m a hockey fan who lives in the Phoenix area and goes to roughly 5 games a year. Fourth, Travis has slowly been improving the quality and depth of FFH, but its not as good as this place. That is not a knock on Travis. When comparing any other sports site to this place, the other site is going to lose.
We are spoiled here. Plenty of other great blogs on SBN that get much less traffic. For instance, Lighthouse Hockey is tremendous, but I’m convinced more non-Isles fans know it exists than Isles fans.
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I realized a lot of that, but I didn’t expect to see “0 comments” under several headings and a recent popular story not hitting 40. I guess I too have been only hanging around the more popular ones. And with the team making a resurgence and the stuff here about them selling out, well…I found J.R. by going on the internet searching for Caps-related stuff (actually via SI.com’s Caps page, where they had this and OFB listed as the main Caps blogs). I figured people on Phoenix would be doing the same.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt it. This town is not as tech savvy as DC Metro area, though it is in pockets. Plus, Yotes lost a ton of fans over the last 5-7 years. I’m guessing some will come back now that the Yotes are watchable again. If it was the late 90’s I suspect more people would be reading/commenting at FFH. This town was much more in tune with the Yotes back then. Finally, even those who do follow the Yotes they are the second team they follow.
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The family says he’s the most talented but least motivated. Dad has made those kind of comments a bunch.
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It may brighten F&B’s, but it sure darkens mine,
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Oh. Well. There is that.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 20, 2010 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Finishing up a post on top D-pairings, did I forget any?
Keith/Seabrook
Lidstrom/Rafalski
Carle/Pronger
Doughty/Johnson
Weber/Suter
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 9:30 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
uuhhh….Green/Schultz
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by Gr8Laichs on Mar 20, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d like to see how Green/Schultz compare.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 20, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
If all CB’s doing is comparing plus/minus, it’s game over!
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That would almost be unfair. I’ll look at their defensive numbers and see if they qualify. Green tilts the scales a ton because of his points. I’m not sure that Schultz is enough to qualify them for Keith/Seabrook territory, but I’ll see. Don’t need it published till tomorrow.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Which resources would y’all use to compile this info?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Depends on your angle. Are the pairings the “best” because they have two of the best D-men in a vacuum that happened to be paired together? Or are you looking at how styles complement (Green joins the rush, Schultz has a reach that can help negate a return odd-man rush, etc.) ?
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Trying to combine both. Because obviously, Jack Johnson is not an elite defenseman nor is Matt Carle. Just looking at a basic BTN.ca table, Green and Schultz are both in the top ten, so I may be editing my post.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I have this feeling that Jeff Schultz may just make a career out of flying under the radar.
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he’s gotta be one of the biggest bargains in the NHL. That makes me wonder what some teams would pay for him
by hockeyman33 on Mar 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
St. Louis or Columbus will sign him to a redonkulous offer sheet.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
That brings up an interesting question
how much would you give Jeff Schultz? Max? How much do you think GMGM would give him? Max?
If it’s close to Regehr’s contract, give me the draft picks, for now. He’s still RFA-age.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
And, if we do lose him, who will replace him as Greenie’s partner? I’d love to say Alzner, but he kinda screwed the pooch this season.
But who else, that we have, can fill this spot? He needs to be smart and shut-down. Going through the Caps d-men, the only one who comes to mind is an Alzner on his game
by hockeyman33 on Mar 20, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d offer him probably around what Hamhuis is currently making. 2M/per?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I think I’d max out around $2.5, but offer him $1-1.5M per through his RFA seasons. He re-signed for around 700k after a good season a couple of years ago IIRC, so I don’t think he’s really about the money all that much.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
As long as they are in the conversation…where they belong
You have to factor in Greens points. He is a D-Man and when on the Ice the pairing is a huge contributor to the Presidents Cup team…You cant discount them because they are not at the top of the list on some obscure stats…they need to be debated on their personal talents and overall sucess if you are talking “Best D-Pairing in the league”
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The obscure stats aren’t as irrelevant as you may think— if Green scores a ton of goals, thats great, but if he is on the ice for a lot of GA, then its not quite as good. The top defensive pairings are good at both— which is why Keith and Seabrook are the most dominant this year.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
youre right…I dont consider GA obscure…I have seen some crazier ones on here
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We’ll agree to disagree that they’re crazy. Do you consider Corsi to be “crazy”?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont think Corsi is all that crazy but im sure that Greens Corsi numbers are solid with all the PP time plus having 600 sog Alex on the team helps as well.
Bottom line is they should be discussed….they must be decent, they are the top pairing on the best team…I look forward to seeing your breakdown.
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Well, Schultz’s GAON/60 is 1.68 which is among the best in the NHL, especially considering he plays against decent competition. Green’s is 2.53, basically middle of the pack, but when you consider he brings more than anyone else on offense…
by David M. Getz on Mar 20, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
….which is why my post is getting all sorts of amended. I’m wondering at this point if Weber and Suter should get bumped off.
See Franson/Cube’s GAON/60? Lower than Schultz! I know the TOI is not the same, but still.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but the QualComp is also very, very low. But Franson is playing extremely well against who he’s on the ice against, which is something Trotz controls. Gotta give the guy credit, he’s making the most of the opportunities he’s been given.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I realized that- impressed nonetheless. I’m convinced he’s special.
Kevin Klein, OTOH, I could take or leave. My least favorite player by a country mile.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m at least curious about:
Volchenkov/Phillips
Boyle/Murray
Bouwmeester/Regehr
Chara/Seidenberg
Gonchar/Eaton
Doughty/Scuderi
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Off the top of my head, Boyle/Murray, Bouwmeester/Regehr are not paired with each other. When the Preds played the Kings Doughty/Johnson were paired, so I don’t know that he’s with Scuderi much— will check.
Boyle is with Wallin, Bouwmeester with Staois currently.
Don’t have enough sample size on Chara/Seidenberg. Looking at 40+ GP together.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Guess you’re not doing Carlson-Morrisonn then, huh?
Some other possibilities…
Timonen-Coburn
Enstrom-Bogosian?
Ehrhoff-(someone)
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Enstrom is actually paired with Kubina. They’re heavily offensive. My criteria is being equally effective on both sides of the ice while playing together. Which is why Chara is kind of out— he’s been bounced around.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re both plus players on a not so good team. I would look up some advanced metrics, but my browser right now is being silly and won’t open the page for me.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll look them up at some point to see if they merit inclusion…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Little nuggets: Oskar Osala has the second-highest QualComp rating. Andrew Gordon has the second-highest GAON/60. Both in the bad way.
Both Kubina and Enstrom have QualTeam in the 0.6 range.
Enstrom has a QualComp around 0.1, Kubina around 0.5.
Enstrom has a GAON/60 of 2.78, Kubina 2.99
I guess they don’t merit inclusion, but they look solid.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, what I was thinking. Certainly solid, but not elite.
Damn, apparently my cursory research to get the post going wasn’t enough. I totally forgot about Jovanovski/Michalek.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Willie Mitchell and whoever he was paired with before he got hurt.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
"Ehrhoff-(someone)"
the canucks d-men almost never have consistent pairings, especially with our best shutdown pair (bieska and mitchell) both getting injured this year.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah. oh well, with all the injuries and call-ups, this was to be expected. right now, bieksa, salo, edler, ehrhoff, o’brien and rome are all moving around in their pairings according to what viggy wants.
seems to be working quite well right now, though…
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If Ehrhoff and Mitchell had been together all year they’d certainly be in the discussion.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I tried to look at the play-by-play for one or two games. Looks like I picked the wrong games. Anyway, I was really shooting for:
Boyle/partner
Bouwmeester/partner
Chara/partner
Gonchar/partner
Doughty/partner
I probably should have just gone to Dobber instead.
Looks like these are the most common pairings for those gents (% is % of 1st player’s shifts he’s with the 2nd):
Boyle/Murray 53%
Bouwmeester/Giordano (30%)
Chara/Morris (37%) Chara/Wideman (25%) is #2, if you want someone who’s still on the Bruins
Gonchar/Orpik (37%)
Doughty/Scuderi (37%)
By the way, just for fun, you might want to throw Redden/Gilroy in there…
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’m very surprised by Volchenkov and Phillips right now— if I’m reading the table correctly, they play against the toughest competition of any pairing in the NHL, but the team gives up less goals when they are off the ice. Hm.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Really? They’d get the other team’s top line and most teams don’t have all that much depth thereafter. Have you been hanging out in Caps Land too much?
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
He probably has. You get a warped view of what productivity when your third line right winger has 20+ goals. And both (or all three, depending on who you count) of your second line wingers have 20+ goal. And when we have a winger with similar offensive stats as Zach Parise on our second line (for strategic reasons).
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Giordano is outrageously underrated. He’s been quietly putting up an excellent season in CAL, while Phaneuf, Regehr and Bouwmeester got the headlines.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
What do you think about the top d-pairs?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing that hasn’t already been said. I’d love to see Giordano get some more attention, but that’s about it.
WRT to Volchenkov and Phillips, it looks like Clouston matches them with the best forwards in the league 5v5. Looking at the rest of their blueline, I can’t say I blame him all that much and when the QComp is that much higher for one pair, I’m not altogether surprised at their negative relative +/-.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Carle-Pronger is the odd duck in that group. Pronger hasn’t been elite in two or three years and Matt Carle is a nice player but not in the same category as any of the other pair members. Phillips – Volchenkov deserves a look
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by bigonetimer on Mar 20, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
you'd be surprised
Carle/Pronger come out more effective (in both zones) than Green/Schultz. This is my first foray into advanced stats, so I’m still getting my feet wet.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
effective in terms of what, exactly? not being a smart ass, but what is the most important set of criteria you’re examining?
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by bigonetimer on Mar 20, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
No, good question. In no particular order:
GF/GA when on ice together leveraged somewhat against the quality of competition when paired together
-Corsi when on ice
-good old points/ regular +/
Its still a work in progress; I’m changing some things around- Weber and Suter drastically tilt Corsi in our favor when on the ice together, but they don’t even play the best competition on their own team. Its certainly been an interesting study all the way around.
The only constant? Nick Lidstrom and Brian Rafalski. Those guys are freaks of nature.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, damn. Just try and read through the stupid dash marks.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Pronger hasn’t been elite in two or three years
Pronger hasn’t been the overwhelmingly dominant force that took over games and altered seasons since, well, last post season against the Sharks. Guy is still an elite defender, but he’s slowing down. He doesn’t have all that much speed to give up at this point; I could see him slipping quickly from here, but he’s still good offensively and still very good when he’s not out against forwards with elite speed.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Was watching NHL On The Fly this morning and two things popped out:
1 – Seabrook is ok and will play tonight against the ‘Yotes. Do you think Wisniewski now has a valid reason for appeal, considering the hit didn’t result in a serious injury (since this is what Colin Campbell is now stating as a primary factor for supplemental discipline)?
2 – The NHLN is really pimping Wed’s Caps/Pens game. A one-hour “pregame show”? This is still regular season, right?
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I would be livid if I were a Ducks fan. But it was a bad hit by Wishniewski. (Methinks the length of the suspension was a “makeup” call for the Blackhawks since Ovi got only 2 games for injuring Campbell.)
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I’d like to think that the length of suspension was actually because Wisniewski’s hit was much worse, filled with malice and bad intent. I don’t think as a Ducks fan you get to be livid when your player goes out of his way to injure someone and isn’t as successful as you thought.
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by SmallZ827 on Mar 20, 2010 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This. Seabrook is really, really lucky if he’s in the lineup tonight.
As for item #2 above, yeah, I saw that this morning too and rolled my eyes.
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You know what was really bad? Listening to JWiz try to explain away why he tried to end his friend’s career.
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by bigonetimer on Mar 20, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Seabrook made a questionable hit on Corey Perry earlier in the game. Payback.
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The scene: Corey Perry tries to squeeze by Seabrook on an extended puck hog around behind the net and Seabrook catches him a little awkward, resulting in Perry smacking his head into the boards. JWiz is at the point and sees the whole thing and charges in from the blue line, leaves his feet, both arms up and a full headshot into Seabrook, who collapses like a ragdoll with his eyes rolling into the back of his head before he hits the ice. Ducks announcer mocks the sell job. Wiz and Keith drop’em and Seabrook gets scraped off the ice.
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by bigonetimer on Mar 20, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Seabrook’s look in his eyes was scary. Looked like he blacked out for a little bit.
I agree that it was bad and malicious, but I also, for what it’s worth, think it was poorly executed by Wisniewski. His hands, from the replay (which I admittedly only saw a couple of times) got the upper chest on Seabrook for initial contact. For that, I think 8 games is too much. Maybe 4 games instead.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
That is
with our “precedent” of not punishing hits enough. I’m really not sure how to judge it in a vacuum.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree it was a terrible hit, but I’m hoping the Ducks will appeal it just to force Campbell to clarify the NHL’s position. Is the primary criteria for supplemental discipline injury or malice? On Monday it’s the first, on Wednesday it’s the second. Besides determining what is/is not an illegal hit, the NHL needs to clear up the punishment guidelines as well.
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I’d like to think that the length of suspension was actually because Wisniewski’s hit was much worse, filled with malice and bad intent.
Bingo. The NHL had the chance to nail Ovechkin is they wanted, Campbell came out and told the world the hit was clean (or at least not suspension worthy) other than the injury, and I don’t really see giving someone on a completely different team a longer suspension as making it up in any way.
by David M. Getz on Mar 20, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Between Ovi and Wisniewski, the players’ fund is a little over $500,000 richer. Ovi’s share of that for this suspension was about $223,000. I’m not sure if they count his earlier ‘contribution’ of $81,000. Either way, that’s a lot of cash out of Wisniewski’s account.
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Also, I got the impressions from a lot of ducks fans that they didn’t think too highly of Wisniewski before the suspension. This at least forces them to play something else.
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(from Vogs’ preview)
Wow. Just, wow. Two months (approx) by taking away the Olympic break.
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He’ll be expensive to sign. (If someone else gets him, it will cost them loads of draft picks.) For a discussion of trading a player who would have walked as a RFA, see the link below to Edward Fraser’s article on worst trades talking about the Kessel trade for Toronto.
Signing or trading for a Restricted Free Agent is a very expensive, mortgaging the future proposition.
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I am going to display my ignorance here:
I understand what the advanced statistics mean, for the most part, but I don’t have a good grasp of when the numbers start to become “good” and when they are “bad”. I can look, for example, and see that Mike Green’s 5-on-5 GAON/60 is 2.53 and know that for every 60 minutes of ES play his team gives up 2.53 goals. But beyond looking how far down the list he is, I don’t know how good that number is. Whereas if someone has 26 goals this season, I know, pretty much in a vacuum, how good that is.
Is there a good fixed point of reference for these statistics, or are the only useful when comparing any given group of players?
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I guess
that you can look at team GF/GA numbers to know roughly where that fits in. With PPs and PKs ES stats don’t map perfectly to team GA/gm and GF/gm numbers, but it kinda works.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
There really isn’t a good point of reference, and I think there should be. Honestly, your best bet is just to compare against other players.
And that may never change because league conditions vary. A pretty terrible GAON/60 today would be considered great in the 1980s because so many more goals were scored. So yeah, I’d compare him against folks who you think you know how good they are — pick some benchmarks like Chara or Volchenkov. And you always have to take into account goaltending, quality of team, whether they play in the good conference or the bad one, etc.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thanks a million. A rec for a link to that FanPost and the obvious thought that went into it.
Conditions change for “normal” stats, too, though, but we still have this notion that a 100-pt season is elite (even though we know about that guy with the 200-pt seasons back in the ’80s).
I just wish I had a better grasp of the history of it, though, although I suppose there’s less history to grasp because the statistics are so new.
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I should go further to say I guess I just crave the hockey equivalent of OPS+, which is probably impossible. Baseball is an individual sport masquerading as a team sport, so your OPS is not really dependent on your QUALTEAM (maybe the QUALCOMP in terms of opposing pitchers, but only to a small extent, because the baseball season is so damn long that it evens out pretty well). I guess there’s no inherent “bar” to these statistics (like the 100 for OPS+) because a lot of these rate stats are so dependent on what team one plays on with what pairing/line against what competition.
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Hockey’s about 25 years behind baseball in all of this, but I think we’re getting there. Take a look at the work of Alan Ryder. Also,t he behindthenet blog is outstanding. This post is particularly relevant to what we’re talking about here (and the entire FAQ series linked at the top of the post is great).
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Set aside a few hours to thoroughly read through Ryder’s work if you’re really interested on looking under the hood. I can’t recommend his stuff any more highly, but it can be dense material.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anyone see SCOC’s “Gold out the Garden” campaign? Thoughts?
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Yeah, I just read it. Weird, since the Caps empty seats pre-lockout weren’t an orchestrated protest, just an uninterested fanbase for a lousy team. It’s an interesting counterpoint to Phoenix’s game tonight, which I heard was sold out.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, I thought people should read your well-written counterpoint, especially since SCOC decided to be a jerk towards you on their site. ;-)
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Didn’t wanna bring it up, but yeah. I wasn’t trying to “pimp” myself; just bring the other side. Oh well.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Not to mention- SCOC is advocating missing the playoffs in order to pick higher. I could never, ever concur with that.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
That is just plain ridiculous. I love how they tried to explain how different it was in Nashville. give me a break. Every teams goal should be to make (and win) in the playoffs. You shouldn’t worry about draft picks unless you’re “rebuilding” – not in the playoff hunt.
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Yeah, when he said expectations are different in Nashville I was somewhat baffled—that has nothing to do with anything. And I’d say that Preds fans are just as die-hard as Bruins— just not in the same quantity.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. It might be a different atmosphere, but hockey is hockey and hockey players are hockey players no matter where the game is being played. Those guys love the game and I’d hope they’re in it to win it and not try to lose to help the organization. They want victory for themselves, not some 2011 draft pick in five years.
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Though I can't help but feel
they just don’t think they can avoid facing and losing to, well, the Caps…
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Who cares? I want in the playoffs even if I’m 99% sure we’re getting waxed by whoever.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
It just makes me feel good that they’re scared of the Caps.
Objectively, I do think it’s ridiculous to want to miss the playoffs when you’re so close. If the fans don’t show up, not as if the Bruins will fall very fall, if at all. Is there much of a difference between the #16 and #14 overall picks in the draft this year? I think not much, and making the playoffs, especially the SC playoffs in which we see time and time again that anything can happen, will offset that.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Good grief, they’ve already got a high pick from Toronto.
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They were spoiled I think
by the Pats, Bs (one season though), Celtics, Red Sox, and hell, even the Revolution.
Luckily we’re not the same, since the general rule in DC seems to be that if one team is good enough to be contending the other teams must be bad.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Chris, I read your counterpoint and completely agree. As a tortured O’s fan, I have seen my fair share of “fans trying to protest ownership” crap. They tried to do something a few years back where everyone went in, all stood at the same time and filed out. They wanted the whole stadium to do it. Thing is…the O’s (and more importantly Peter Angelos) sold more tickets to that game than they normally would because people wanted to “protest”. The O’s still profited and they didn’t care if you saw the whole game or not.
SCOC is telling season ticket holders not to go. Yet, those same STH still paid for the seats. Plus, that team has been devastated by injury this year. How can you really put that on the team and ownership?
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Does anyone know where I can find man-games lost due to injury on the season?
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Good luck with that. I tried tracking that down at some point…and the best I could find was something posted by Mirtle two or three years ago.
I did find some numbers at From the Rink from November, and the Bs were pretty far down that list. Have they been pretty banged up? I can’t remember anything aside from Lucic and Savard (I guess those are kinda important, as Savard missed more time earlier this season, but not remembering any other injuries on that team to take note of)
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s from so early in the season it might as well be worthless. Savard missed 4 weeks because of a minor MCL tear after that was done. I bet Washington’s numbers are lower than projected because the team has been remarkably healthy after the early season injury problems. And then there’s Detroit, who I’m sure will finish with more than 300 man games lost.
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not something that seems readily available, unfortunately.
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It’s an interesting counterpoint to Phoenix’s game tonight, which I heard was sold out.
It’s beyond sold out. They were selling SRO in the club section. Should be the biggest crowd ever for a Yotes game since the sold out games when they were at AWA were smaller capacity. I’ll be one of the folks there. Now if I can just put up with Blackhawks fans for a couple of hours.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Haven't seen this posted before
March 3, 2010: The Capitals acquire Joe Corvo from the Hurricanes for defenseman Brian Pothier, Oskar Osala and a ’11 second round draft pick.
Washington GM George McPhee went on a deadline day shopping spree, but ended up overpaying for the high-risk Corvo to the tune of a serviceable blueliner, quality prospect (Osala was No. 10 on Washington’s list in Future Watch) and a moderately high draft choice. A steep price for a player who can walk this summer as a UFA.
Edward Fraser on one of the worst trades of 2009-2010.
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I can cut him some slack for that since it’s not like Osala playing a game or two was especially noteworthy.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep!
And played the Bears last night, too… It was really weird, especially when he more-or-less accidentally checked one of his own guys in the middle of the ice!
Of course, that’s nothing compared to the two minutes for roughing that Bouchard “got” while sitting in the box for a fighting major. The look on his face was priceless! He was so confused. Of course, it was a bench-clearing brawl in the third frame, and they listed off half a dozen or so players as penalized.
They corrected themselves a couple of minutes later, but Bouchard, when he heard his name called with the roughing minor, looked like, “WTF?!” and gave a very bemused/confused shrug, to roars of laughter from the crowd.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 20, 2010 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Now that takes real talent. Get a penalty for “roughing” when already sitting in the penalty box. Guess the penalty box is a pretty rough place to be. Or there’s not enough separation between the two teams’ penalty boxes.
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Something like that. Must have been lightning fast – I think he snuck out of the box while all the fighting was going on, roughed up the guy in the other box, and got back in before anybody noticed. I think I saw a green and gold blur out there… ;-)
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He switched sweaters with Matty Perreault, who went out and did the deed.
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Rumor has it that the Draft Class of ’11 is expected to be a particularly week class.
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I think 2008 was supposed to be too until like a couple of months before. Something like that according to a comment F&B made a while ago.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, given our current players and their relative young ages,being number 10 on the prospect list doesn’t mean you are going to see the ice anytime soon. Maybe he plays for the canes next year but probably would not have cracked the caps lineup.
As with most trades such as this, a few years premature to call it good or bad. Wonder what he thought of bondra for a 6th round pick with one game in the NHL?
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You can watch Mr. Osala (#32) getting scored on last night and going minus-2 at about the :27 second mark here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNLNMPcvy2E
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by what Juneau about that? on Mar 20, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think she’s got other plans but I have no idea what she’s doing. She always said she didn’t like hockey due to the fights. And last year was upstairs and then came downstairs, just in time to see Jamie Heward down on the ice and taken off the field in a stretcher.
But guess what she ended up doing on her birthday last year (while my husband and I were off at VC watching the playoffs). She had a bunch of people over and they watched the game on TV. (Her boyfriend is a hockey fan.)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Pretty big dropoff in both conferences between #2 and #3. Makes it pretty critical for the lower tier teams to get up to #6 — then they’ve got a real chance. I see Vancouver as particularly soft this year. They just fit to me the profile of a team ready to get upset in the first round.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions
gee, thanks
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Well, its kind of a common sentiment. There doesn’t seem to be much solidarity on the back end and you just get the feeling they can’t make a run. But who knows. If they draw the Avs, it’ll be game over for COL. The Avs are the weakest playoff team in the West, IMO.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, all the teams in the West are pretty strong, including Colorado. All they need is a hot streak by the offense like at the beginning of this season.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
They’re all strong, but the Avs’ have very little experience and a poor defense.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
The Avs early season hot streak was pretty well analyzed by Gabe Desjardins over at the BtN blog. They’re getting very high shooting percentages out of guys like Brandon Yip and Craig Anderson is just killing it this year. As a whole, they’re getting absolutely crushed in Corsi and shots, but they seem, somehow, to be holding it together.
If I were going to pick anyone as most likely to bow out in the first round, it’s probably the Avs.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. But the West is looking really tight, and we all know it takes one hot streak…maybe if Tuukka Rask gets hot it won’t affect the outcome of Caps-Bs since there’s a big difference there, but smaller in the West, so I could see those small statistical nuances here and there becoming important.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is that they aren’t that small. A little slip by Anderson or a cold streak from their shooters and their toast. I don’t watch enough COL games to comment on the how of their goalscoring (Any thoughts, D’ohboy?) — if they’ve got a lot of Knuble-style-grind-em-out rebounds and screens, they’re less likely to be susceptible to that and to have a higher shooting percentage, but yikes. The numbers are scary.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 20, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Salivating over a PHX/NSH matchup.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 20, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
PHE v Col would be a horrible match up. If only because both teams are “cinderella” stories would hate to see them face each other but at the same time it garuntees one of them a 2nd round berth haha
I’m liking Boston v Wash still. On that bracket I’d see Wash > Bos, NJ > Phi, Ott > Buff, montreal could give pitt some trouble though
Nothing.
only if Montreal spends the majority of the game on the PP. 5-on-5, they’re awful
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I was just searching for a picture of Nicklas Backstrom
typed his name into the FF Google toolbar, and one of the search suggestions (the second) was “Nicklas Backstrom girlfriend.”
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one of those spam sites?
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by what Juneau about that? on Mar 20, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
No
Google search suggestion. If you’re interested, this is what came up.
I get the feeling that the true measure of a Caps fan is, like a certain superstar, being able to be borderline (here in discussions being OT, for the player in hitting).
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
…. those look like a few puck bunny forums……
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yeah, i follow Psycho Lady Hockey on twitter, and just spent the last hour reading her blog……
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My friend had linked to her on her Twitter, so I read through the blog a bit. I don’t think I had my mouth closed at any point during my readings. I think I wasted a good 45 minutes of my life that I will never, ever get back.
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ah, i’m guessing you don’t like it too much…..
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Not really… She claims to not be a puck bunny, but her site pretty much makes her sound like a puck bunny. She drives all over the place going to games and then bragging about dating hockey guys, but then in the same sentence says she’s not a bunny because she knows the game. Please. You try to sleep with the guys, you’re a puck bunny.
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by terpgrrl on Mar 20, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i feel like i see that everytime i type the name of our top guys into the google search bar
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Funny, Backstrom had a suggestion too
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by what Juneau about that? on Mar 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Everything is fine in Philly, just fine, and thanks for asking.
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how ’bout them goalies? oh, riiiiiiiiiiiight…..
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by CapsFan75 on Mar 20, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
They’re fine. Ask anybody.
Fine, dammit.
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Not too thrilled about tonight’s scratches, per TEB:
Matt Bradley, Tyler Sloan, Quintin Laing and Joe Corvo will be the healthy scratches.
Why is Erksine in this game? I don’t consider Tampa to be slow in the least. OTOH, if you’re scratching Bradley, you need someone in who’s tough, I guess.
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I think in the toughness department Scott Walker, Jason Chimera, and a certain player returning from suspension is plenty. We’ve even seen big ol’ Schultzy drop ‘em once. Oh well, BB’s the coach, I’m sure he has some real reason behind it.
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by red army line on Mar 20, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Without Big Bad Brads, they need the Lumberjack. Konopko has healed up his back injury as well and I think is s’posed to play.
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by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 20, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions
hmm i think those last 2 centers need to be switched but that is just my opinion
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Centers can be switched around fairly easily mid game, surely.
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this is true I was about to comment that the lines can always change during the game
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
D pairings?
55-52
74-26
4-3
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Probably. Tarik didn’t tweet that though.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 20, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
the 4-3 pairing never fails to cause me to cry.
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You too? When those two are on the ice together, I usually cringe the entire time.
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by terpgrrl on Mar 20, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
invite Scotty Hockey!
‘Course he’s not so very ’nonymous in his Potihate.
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I particularly love that Corvo is getting scratched right after his two-goal game.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
Par for the course
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by Marshall Pirate on Mar 20, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
With Ovi, Stamkos, and Crosby all playing tonight…
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But if there has to be a hattie at the Igloo today, Geno is long overdue.
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is he back from his foot injury? (I don’t follow pittsburg too closely)
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Yes, he’s been practicing with the team.
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thanks i had heard he was practicing again but that was all
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
The Pens already played today and lost to the Canes in OT. Crosby had no goals.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 20, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I still think the fact that neither Crosby nor Stamkos scored any goals while Ovi was out and Henrik Sedin only had one point is as clear a comment from the hockey gods as you’ll ever find.
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by gotsparkly on Mar 20, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Of course. Potsy with a hattie! Heck, even Eric Staal or Whitney with a hattie. I’m down wid’dat.
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JP impression
New content, peeps
And I think it’s a worthwhile topic indeed.
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Pens/Canes underway in OT Hockey
Potsy brought game today.
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Backstrom's goal from the CHI game
in 1080p on YouTube. I didn’t know it came in 1080p.
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I just noticed that Backstrom’s shot came back out of the net to SSLLEEWFOOT Niemi. Were it any other shooter, I would assume that to be a coincidence…
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by redlineblue on Mar 20, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Kinda old, but
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| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
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82 | 54 | 15 | 13 | 121 |
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Atlanta
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82 | 35 | 34 | 13 | 83 |
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Carolina
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82 | 35 | 37 | 10 | 80 |
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Tampa Bay
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82 | 34 | 36 | 12 | 80 |
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Florida
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82 | 32 | 37 | 13 | 77 |
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