Tuesday PM Open Thread
Some fresh thread to discuss all the trades - real and rumored - as we head into the final 24 hours leading up to the trade deadline. Have at it, people.
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I want Kubina and Center, but I haven’t decided which one yet. Maybe Koivu.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Wondered when this was coming….had people posting the same stuff in two different threads.
I agree on those two needs…especially the center.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you said you wanted Kubina at Center. I was a little concerned.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 2, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
Bob McK follows up on Wolski tweet
If Wolski were to be traded to Phoenix, Mueller and something else would obviously be involved. Phoenix has been shopping Mueller. Hard.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
Mueller has really sucked this year…not sure what the Avs see in him.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
Don’t think the implication is that the Avs want Muiller, it’s more that the Yotes want Mueller gone.
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Or that. Still, it doesn’t really make sense from a Colorado standpoint.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
Yeah, Wolski is a bit much to give up for Mueller one for one.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
PHX is really desperate to give him up…that would cause me as a fellow GM to be immediately wary, as if his terrible season weren’t enough.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I feel like that’s a buy low/sell high situation for COL. I’m still not confident Wolski will be a healthy and consistent NHL player. Maybe this year he turned the corner, but maybe not. Mueller still has so much raw skill and potential that it could end up being a steal down the line. Sometimes guys just need a change of scenery. Daniel Briere (may he rot) was a spoiled brat in PHX and needed a trade to wake him up.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I’d try to get something more out of them. Mueller is kind of like Wolski 2.0, except years younger. Let’s not forget that the Avs are in the thick of the playoff race this year. Selling Wolski for a youngster will not go over well with the fanbase. Plus, it’s not like the Avs need to get younger. . .
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Yeah, I’m not advocating it, just trying to offer a sensible angle. Mueller doesn’t have the injury history that Wolski has either, which is probably just as valuable as his youth.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Mckenzie alluded to it, but it appears that the Avs are just taking stock of their long term salary structure, and trying to see what’s out there. Not anything imminent or as a result of wanting to dump Wolski.
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Wolski’s interesting. Very talented, but very frustrating. Given their position in the playoff race, however, I’m not sure Colorado would want to mess with their current lineup. See below for more details.
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He’s a sniper compared to Mueller currently. Yotes would be quite happy. Mueller may turn out to be great shakes, but Yotes are done dealing with him.
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I’d give him a chance, personally. Especially if he could be had for a song.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
Koivu and Nolan would be nice.
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Too bad we can’t combined Anaheim’s Koivu with Minnesota’s Nolan and grab Minnesota’s Koivu.
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That would be sweeeeeeet. A pipe dream, but a nice one.
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Oh yeah! Somehow I don’t think you can pry M. Koivu away from the Wild….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Via ESPN:
Meanwhile, in Washington, a Capitals source told me Tuesday that although the team would like an upgrade "anywhere," the feeling at this point is the team may not do anything. GM George McPhee has never been a big fan of overpaying at the trade deadline, but we’ll see this time around. The Caps have never had a better chance at a Stanley Cup than this season.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
He may have to this time. As loaded as the team is, and if they feel they have a legitimate shot to win the whole thing, you have to go for it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s what GMGM wants you to think.
by David Getz on Mar 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d for absolute truth. I think I’ve decided I love GMGM for his cageyness.
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by gfcaps fan on Mar 2, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m sure hoping that’s the case. That didn’t turn out to be the case last year, though – has it been prior to that?
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
A glance at the salary cap and we all pretty much knew that nothing was happening last year.
A glance at the salary cap and we all pretty much agree that he’ll do something this year.
I believe in the wisdom of crowds. They’ll make a move.
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I’m not really sure. I think McPhee’s shown a willingness to make moves at the deadline – he did and the fire sale and he did two years ago – but no one ever wants to overpay.
Agreed. I think the idea that McPhee is tentative around deadline time is false. If the rumors were true than he looked hard at Pronger last year but the asking price is ridiculous. Then there was the Fedorov/Huet deadline.
Basically, McPhee not overpaying translates, for some, into “McPhee is conservative.”
I think he’s a subscriber to Billy Beane’s dictum that, “You can always recover from the trade you don’t make; you might not recover from the trade you do make.”
I agree with that – I just think this year is a good time to shoot for an upgrade, and all the other pieces are in place.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 2, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i dont know that i ever really liked Billy Beane all that much, but that quote is quite prescient here and now. I agree that this is the year to make moves. i just don’t want to see the competition get better while we stand pat…not this year.
Billy Beane taught us all that losing Miguel Tejada, Jason Giambi and Johnny Damon is OK because Scott hatteburg and Mark Kotsay can pick up the slack. What a genius…
To be fair, he didn’t really have much of a choice on any of those. Also, once the book came out, teams with actual money started getting in on his action. Moneyball was simultaneously the best, and worst thing that ever happened to Beane.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Not true. There’s no way Oakland could have afforded to keep those guys. It’s not like Beane said “hey they stink, get ’em out of here”.
No but he was lauded with praise for coming up with a system in which he replaced the big names with cast-offs while still managing to remain competitive. It hasn’t quite worked out for them though since their superstars left.
Damon and Giambi both left in 2001. The A’s won 103, 96, 91, 88, and 93 games over the next few seasons. It has as much to do with other people catching on than it did with specific players leaving.
No matter how you slice it, Oakland’s performance under Beane has been impressive, as has his managerial style.
Agree to disagree. They haven’t won a playoff game since 2003. That pitching staff featured Zito, Mulder (when they were awesome), Rich Harden and Keith Foulke.
They were never quite able to build a contender after losing their top pitchers. Beane has done an adequate-to-solid job given his resources, but let’s not annoint him the greatest GM of all time.
I feel like something happened in 2003… Oh yeah, Moreno bought LAAAAA and pumped metric ass-tons of cash into what was already a pretty good team.
FWIW, NOBODY outside of LAAAAA in the AL West has won a playoff game since then.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’ll admit this: Beane really did pioneer the sabermetrics movement in baseball, and for that he deserves a ton of credit.
He just hasn’t used it very effectively in recent years.
For a GM who was lauded for his emphasis on OBP and SLG%, he’s let Oakland’s offense degenerate into a laughing stock while the team has finished under .500 for three straight years.
It ain’t just the Angels.
Well, in recent years, every other team has gotten on the sabermetric bus, so he doesn’t really have an advantage in that department anymore.
The key point of Moneyball wasn’t really that relying on sabermetrics is the best way to build a baseball team—it was that a team with a small budget has to find something that the big budget teams are undervaluing in order to be successful. Now that every baseball executive’s pet cat can tell you all about OPS, WHIP, and so forth (due to the book itself), it’s obviously going to be even harder to succeed.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 2, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
When are you not overpaying (at least to some extent) when you’re grabbing a key upgrade for a Cup run, though?
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 2, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
When you give up a 5th rounder for Guerin. Or when you give up Thibault, Rucinsky and Kovalenko for Roy and Keane.
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MON was over a barrel there. Everyone knew Roy would never wear that jersey again so they couldn’t extract full value.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
The point was that you can get a key piece without overpaying.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I know, I wasn’t trying to refute that (though I was pretty sure you’d think I was). Just adding a little historical context.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Right, but Guerin would only go to a small selection of teams, so it was hard to get market value for him. F&B already did the Roy thing. Still, I think it’s pretty uncommon to not have to overpay at the deadline.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 2, 2010 6:20 PM EST up reply actions
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Twenty Four?
“The following is a presentation of the National Hockey League”
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Thinking about calling in sick tomorrow… Except I missed almost a month out sick in December when my leg turned into a watermelon.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Witch doctor?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
See a few posts below for the info…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
that sounds exceptionally unpleasant! what the heck happened?
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Starvin’ over here.
Hey Earl…we got any watermelon back there?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
AO knows where to get the nachos. :)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Most likely it was a Black Widow spider bite. My right leg below the knee swelled up to about 2 times its normal width and began seeping fluid through the skin. They tested for a blood clot and infections, but the good and bad news was that it was neither, meaning it had to heal on its own. I left work the day before Thanks giving and didn’t get back until Xmas week.
The leg isn’t swollen anymore but it is still discolored from all the shrinking it did (it had to build capillaries when it swelled up, and then they get smooshed when the swelling goes down.
Twas not fun… it felt like it was on fire, and I would not sleep for 2-3 days because of the pain…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
It was hell… I don’t wish it on anyone, mostly because there was nothing I could do except treat the symptoms… and even then it wasn’t that effective.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
so, no hobo spider bite in other leg excuse for tomorrow?
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Not likely… too early for spiders…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
My work has spiders everywhere. I feel like it is only a matter of time.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
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Just be careful out there…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t wish it on anyone
…not even, say, Rush Limbaugh?
by mechanicsville on Mar 2, 2010 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, if I wanted to do something mean to Rush, I’d lock him in a room with Mike Milbury and a whole bunch of shoes….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Salei
I can see the Caps trading a mid to late round pick for Ruslan Salei.
He can play in all three phases. He looked pretty good in the Olympics. He’s physical. He’s got plenty of Stanley Cup experience.
And best of all, Colorado won’t ask much for him.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’d bite. I wanted them to make an offer when he was UFA a couple years back. What do you think he’d cost?
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Ugh. Missed the “mid to late round pick” part. I doubt he’s that cheap. Sutton fetched a 2 so if I’m COL I don’t move him for less than that.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Salei hasn’t played all year though. He’s been out with a back injury. And the Avs have like 10 extra defensemen. 4th rounder, tops.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Ah. I clearly haven’t been paying attention. How much is he really going to help if he’s been hurt all year? How convinced are you that he’s healed and will stay healed to actually help us?
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
You mean???
They allowed him to breed?
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
eeeew
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According to Kukla's Korner
Pittsburgh not only interested in Poni but also Raffi Torres.
I am inclined to hope they get both as I am not a fan of either
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
imagine the blingees Pittsburgh fans will make with that!
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
damn, you’re going to get me in trouble at work! Now I feel the need to photoshop a powerplay with the my little ponies, only with crosby, malkin, gonch and the rest’s heads.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Please...
…ours can be the Care Bears on Ice…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
ours can also be “Scoring is for Everyone!” I like those nights.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Uh oh...
… Me thinks the “Hockey is for Everyone” fans are on the way out of the woodwork now….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, they’ve got a new commercial now! It’s way shorter, but it’s got way too much Sid in it.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Any commercial with Sid on for longer than the Versus ad (where he says “Nah”.) is too much Sid.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
It is… although Lundqvist agreeing with sticking pins in the Crosby bobblehead was funny, esp. at the end with Malkin emulating a bobblehead.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
You guys know. . . Nicklas Backstrom. . .
And he’s going to be here to. . .
Set you up for some good one-timers. . .
. . .
Maybe.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pitt can afford $1.5M annualized salary at the mo…don’t see how they fit both Poni and Torres?
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I don’t think they can fit either unless the move someone.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:31 PM EST up reply actions
Capgeek appears to be having some issues, but going from memory, they’ve got a bunch of guys set to be UFA next year, whom they would presumably be able to move. Matt Cooke being one of them. Mark Eaton being another.
Those guys would make enough room for Torres and Poni.
Not predicting that’s what will happen, just noting what they could do.
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waive clauses
vokoun might be willing to waive his no trade clause to play in washington
…in an unrelated story, jeff halpern is willing to waive his salary to play in washington.
Any sources for those two nuggets?
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Yes…they certainly are “nuggets”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
E5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
Holy crap…buying that IMMEDIATELY
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not as good as the Japers’ porcupine one!
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now if it had a porcupine….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Saw it at work…loved it. Now at home getting " 500 Internal Server Error ".
Powerful hockey fans crashed the server!
Puck Daddy began hyping it…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Per Mirtle
Paul Kariya has informed the Blues he has zero interest in getting traded and will not wave his no trade clause.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 2, 2010 3:25 PM EST reply actions
I cleaned up your mess, YLM – refresh the page.
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by J.P. on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody heard anything from Mirtle about Paul Kariya?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
by macvechkin on Mar 2, 2010 3:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I heard he submitted a list of teams he’s willing to be traded to. I might be getting this confused with something else, though.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
i think you’re thinking of Souray…. but that leads to another point – when was the last time the Caps made every player’s NTC except there list….
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Brooksie posts this gem
By trading San Jose’s second for Sutton, Ottawa essentially traded Heatley for Milan Michalek and Sutton. Ouch.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
Just as Florida essentialy traded JBo for just a 2nd and 3rd rounder… double ouch.
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Which should read:
By trading San Jose’s second for Sutton, Ottawa essentially traded Heatley for Milan Michalek and Sutton and Cheechoo, who they’re paying to play in Bingo. Ouch.
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Heatley didn’t leave OTT much in the way of negotiating leverage.
But, still, that stings. Cheechoo especially.
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Wow…. and yet Ottawa is in contention….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
True enough… and getting Cheechoo’s contract off the cap gave them some room.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions
I know I’m not the only one who will think that if GMGM does nothing of significance at the deadline, he and Leonsis will have traded one brand of stupid pills for another. Sometimes, you have to spend to win. We have a embarrassment of riches in the AHL, and we can’t use all of them.
You had me at no problem.
I think they’ll get something done, I just doubt it will be the “SUPERFLASHYSHINYMOVE that makes all the ESPN commentators nominate us as surefire Stanley Cup Champions.”
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I don’t want flash! I just want a solid defenseman so we don’t have Tyler-freaking-Sloan on the ice come playoff time.
You had me at no problem.
I don’t ever want Sloan on the ice at the VC. At the GC, however….
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Every year HER has about 8-10 players that have no importance for the Caps and I couldn’t care less about. I have no problem with Sloan being one of those guys.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
The superflashyshinymove seldom is the one that wins the Cup.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
Which is all the more reason that I appreciate GMGM and Ted’s unwillingness to go apeshit at the deadline.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
No one wants apeshit. But we all want SOMETHING. I doubt we’ll acquire that 2-3C, but blueline help… Well, without that, I just don’t think we get past a 1st rate offense in the postseason.
You had me at no problem.
Agreed. But for us, it’s more about shifting our #4-6 defense downward (and preferably out of the lineup) than it is about shifting our #1-3 defense downward.
Also, I think we’ll get some kind of veteran penalty killing forward.
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am I the only one who belived that part of the strong push to get Nylander off the books was to create cap space to acquire someone? Wasn’t that what all the excitement was in the fall – now that circles is gone we can get x?
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Wasn’t there this young defenseman we were itching to call up? What’s his name now?
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by Ovechwin on Mar 2, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That finger’ll be blue and rotting by now.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 2, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m just pimping my horrible photoshop _
I wouldn’t mind seeing Calie up either FWIW
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At this point, I don’t care WHO we call up on D. Just get that bum Sloan offa my roster!
You had me at no problem.
Disagree. I think ShaMo is at least a competent 5-6 d-man. Sloan doesn’t belong in the NHL.
You had me at no problem.
For almost $2m per, his cost outweighs his skillset.
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True story, but they’re both on the roster and I can’t believe there’s much debate over which guy belongs in a suit and which guy belongs in a jersey.
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You do know who you are talking to right?
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hahahah, didn’t see the sig. Well, sorry, but I still think he belongs in Hershey.
You had me at no problem.
I still think he is fantastic. Cinderella Man!
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I think IRtR might dispute your claim, there.
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You obviously didn't hear me in Hershey!
I’ll fight her for it.
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I hope you both have sad faces this time tomorrow…
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Eh, my love for TySlo knows no team boundaries.
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The extent of my TySlo love is purely fictional, while I do like the guy, not that much!
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Along with being founder, are you also the only member of the Sloan fan club?
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Nope. There are a couple of us!
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 2, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I loved him in the preseason. I touted him and his pretty playoff assist to Steckel. But he has let me down during the season! And now we can’t get rid of him!
You had me at no problem.
Or maybe purposely leading them astray is McPhee’s way of paying back Burnside and LeBrun for ripping on Ovechkin.
Also from Mirtle:
My experience with Peter Mueller’s game this season: He asked me where the bathroom was in the ACC press box. So I’d say he’s available
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
Can you give us the local’s scoop on Mueller’s problems?
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He struggled to have any chemistry with linemates, doesn’t backcheck consistently, and isn’t scoring worth a damn. When you are supposed to be a scorer on a team with little scoring you get noticed by everyone. Dude is 13th on the team in points. On the Coyotes!!! Daniel Winnik and Vern Fiddler have more points than he does.
Ever since his concussion last season the guy has been a mess. I would say he wasn’t great in both zones before that, but now he’s pretty much a disaster many nights. In addition, Gretzky isn’t coaching here anymore, so Mueller isn’t allowed freelance room like he got under Gretz. Tippet has sat him due to his play.
Travis over at FFH wrote this piece which defends Mueller about 6 weeks ago. I disagree with some stuff in it, but he does have some valid points.
The guy was rushed and it shows. He doesn’t do the little stuff well. However, he certainly has a skill set that says 20-30 goal scorer. I think a change of scenery will do him good. If nothing else, he may realize that what Tippet has been trying to get him to do is what others expect as well.
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First post, i'll try to be gentle.
GMGM has always struck me as risk averse. Such aversion has had its benefits, sometimes not so much. Fedorov and Huet were fortuitous acquisitions. Sergei Berezin was not. Would Vokoun be an upgrade? Surely, we presume (thats all you can do sometimes). Hartnell would be an upgrade, too. My thought is to negotiate for what you want, and give up whats most palatable to get it, when it looks like you have the best chance.
I see the Caps as a great regular season team, this year. Boston was last year. San Jose has been for about 5 years now. You never know when injuries put a damper in your chances. You also never know when your best chances will be.
I don’t see the current center position as that critical, because the situation isn’t keeping the team from outscoring the opposition. Defense could certainly be shored up, it always can be. Detroit pays a hefty price for their defensmen, but they pay for what they get.
I think this is year is a legitimate chance at a finals run. Giving up a few nuggets (and I’ll throw out Alzner, Flash, Fehr and Morrison, Pothier, Sloan, Erskine, and draft picks, to bring back the essentials. After Ovechkin and Knuble (same line) there is a serious drop off in physical acumen. That is a key area for me. If goalie stays the same, pay for defense. If defense stays the same (ahem) paying for goaltending might result in assets gone while not fixing the direct problem. I’m curious to see what happens, because Mcphee has never had a team this good, while still having obvious problem areas.
Sorry for the long post.
I think mcphee should go for it because the iron is pretty hot this year. take the plunge.
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 3:33 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
GMGM will take a chance occasionally...
He did near the deadline in 2001 by trading Zednik and Bulis for Zubrus and Linden. This after saying the Caps were likely not to make any moves…
I am never going to play poker with George. Ever.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions
…which was a smart move, and something he’d likely been planning all year, as those two were whining about not being on a line together yet couldn’t muster much of anything on the best of days.
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
unless doing nothing is stupid. not trying to splt hairs, but with what he and Don Fishman have amassed at this hour, doing nothing with it seems a bit illogical.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Understood, but you don’t want to do something just to do something, either. It’s a fine line.
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Yes. Anypne who thinks he’ll never take a risk missed the Clark trade.
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That wasn’t really a risk, though. Clark was an aging RW who was still in DC because he was the Captain, that’s all. Trading a recently injury prone non-productive right wing along with a press box d-man for a legit 3rd liner isn’t a risk – it’s a trade you have to make, if it’s offered. As much DESERVED love we had for Captain Cadaver, that was a no-brainer.
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
Trading your captain midseason is a risk in and of itself, was my point.
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I mean, under normal circumstances I’d be inclined to agree, but let’s face it — Clark may have been the de jure leader amongst the players, but the de factor leadership lied elsewhere.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 2, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Nice post, and welcome.
May I suggest this for your avatar: http://www.myinternetshopper.net/Donkey1Jade2.jpg
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
nice. I’ve been tinkering with one in photoshop, but im a tinkerer…almost…
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, Google search makes our lives easier, no?
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
Welcome Jade. Thanks for your ten cents. (Even if you did give me violent tremors with memories of Berezin). Pull up an avatar, get a drink and make yourself at home.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 2, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ten cents? Is that inflation or the exchange rate now?
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by red army line on Mar 2, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
The Thrashers have signed Chris Chelios. From the AP:
ATLANTA (AP) — The Atlanta Thrashers have signed 48-year-old defenseman Chris Chelios, a three-time Norris Trophy winner as the NHL’s top defenseman, who has spent the season with the AHL Chicago Wolves.
Chelios, who ranks second in the AHL this season with a plus-35 rating, is expected to remain with the Wolves for now.
Chelios was drafted by the Montreal Canadiens in 1981. He has participated in 11 NHL All-Star games and has registered 185 goals and 763 assists in 1,644 NHL games.
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He still has to clear entry waivers, but I’m sure he will.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
So the Thrashers are basically relegated to publicity stunts at this point.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
and us lucky Caps fans can see this publicity stunt in action on April 1 and April 9. Come on, I know your excited! Chelios will make Sloan look like a Norris candidate
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Chelly will probably stay with the Wolves unless ATL moves a defenseman.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, its important, but I think the softness on the 2nd line wingers may become an issue in the playoffs. Semin and Flash are easily pushed about, less so fehr but he hasn’t been a physical rock either. Like I said, that position weakness hasn’t pervented them from outscoring everyone else, by far.
I’ve been thinking Semin needs to work on bulking up a little regardless of what his weight is stated to be.
Semin
he is what he is. you are seeing the final product.
If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is.
by ns on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
That is true. He is likely not to get much better than he is right now.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m being optimistic lately. I’d like to think he learned a thing or two about the difference between a talented group of individuals and a good team recently if Bruce can hit him over the head with how to apply this while it’s still fresh.
Nobody saw that solid legal Boyle hit coming (least of all Boyle)
Having said that, odds are you two are more right than wrong there.
No one saw that hit coming because he’s never made a hit like that before… We’ll see what Russia’s defeat does to him this coming stretch run and playoffs. I know it’s going to motivate AO to beat Crosby and co. but Semin… still a mystery.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
The best part is, big deal or no big deal, we’re going to end the day as one of the 4 favorites for the Cup.
And that friends, is a damn fun feeling to have
by Tromni on Mar 2, 2010 3:44 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise I want Parise … it will never happen …
by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 2, 2010 3:46 PM EST reply actions
it will never happen …
At least you’re realistic…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
I hate being realistic ………. I like fantasy …
by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe this is a signal it is time for you to move on.
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Vokoun
I would not be surprised if GMGM is angling for Vokoun. Florida has given up on their season and can ride Clemmensen for the last month. They have a hot goalie prospect in Markstrom, and may accept Theodore as a temporary option. Does Theo have an NTC?
We’re so well stocked with prospects and cap room at the moment, I would not be shocked to see a blockbuster. A pick plus Semin or Fleischmann (throw in Bourque?) might be attractive to Sexton…
I would trade Semin + a pick for Vokoun. I’d throw in Theo, but why would they want him with Markstrom and Clemmy?
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
Expiring contract. Pair Theo and Clemmensen for the rest of the year, then bring the young’ins up for next season.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
Right. Markstrom can’t even play for them this year. Salak could come up from the AHL but that’s not a great spot to put a young goalie in.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
If they trade for Vokoun, the Caps may have to part with Neuvy or Holtby as part of the package, in which case, Varly goes to play regularly in Hershey, and the Caps go into the playoffs with a Vokoun/Theodore tandem… not a bad thing to have.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
but its so much fun seeing Holtby hit guys in the back of the head with his stick ….
by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 2, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
FLA doesn’t want or need a young goalie.
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Someone mentioned this earlier…I don’t know if having a scorned JT is a positive for the team chemistry.
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The Caps won’t have a scorned Theo under any scenario that I can see. Either Hershey would have a scorned Theo or some other NHL club would.
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Scorned or not...
…he has to admit that Vokoun will make this team the frontrunner for the Cup, and being on a Cup winner is never a bad thing.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Agree, just don’t see that coming with a side of whiny Theo on the bench. Like JP said, Hershey (which he’ll refuse) or another NHL team.
Not that this stops me from loving some Vokoun.
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What makes you think he’d be whiny after the way he handled being benched in favor of Varly last year?
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Personally, I can cut the guy some slack for one comment. In case you haven’t heard, he’s been going through a lot.
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Was just providing the evidence that everyone would point to, nothing more.
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No doubt. My comment was just in general reply to that one incident.
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I think he’s thinking of the “I just work here” comment. I don’t think that was a whiny so much as a one-time fit.
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Definitely a fit. One-time, that’s anyone’s call.
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You had me at no problem.
Likee JP said, he’s had some other problems lately. One time burst of frustration doesn’t bother me.
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and look at the date on that. Theo admitted Christmas was his low point.
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Exactly. He isn’t going on and on about it. He said one thing, not that whiny to me.
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I’d rather not experiment with how Theo feels about playing one playoff game for us in two years.
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If he plays none this year but gets to skate with the Silverware, he’ll be quite happy.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t really think the backup, non-factor goalie on a team gets jacked about winning a Cup do you? What’s he going to do, tell his grandkids how he deftly opened and closed the door on line changes?
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
They still put the name on the Cup… that’s what matters.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
There an echo in here? :)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah…there is an echo in here…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
To many tsars...
…spoil the borscht.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
In Soviet Russia...
…borscht eats YOU!!!
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by D'ohboy on Mar 2, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The borscht had a concealed porc-grenade.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 2, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t think he’d be all that whiny. He wasn’t that whiny last year when Varly supplanted him….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Never happening.
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A pick plus Semin or Fleischmann (throw in Bourque?)
That’s much, much more than the current market rate…
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Agreed. That’s my point – that if Vokoun is willing to be moved and waive his NTC, we have easily the best combination of attractive destination, tradable commodities and cap space.
I’d be very reluctant to trade Semin. We’d be back to having one reliable scoring line again. This team isn’t going to win the cup playing 2-1 games…
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I don’t think Bourque has very much value. Semin’s good, but I wouldn’t touch him if I were any other GM because I’d be afraid he’d leave. Fleischmann’s a solid player, but he’s not enough for Vokoun.
I think landing Vokoun takes something big. Not a blue chip prospect, but someone in the next tier.
So with an contract expiring in 2011 Semin’s trade value is already so low that Florida won’t touch him?
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I don’t know if they will. I know I wouldn’t. What good is Alex Semin for one year if you’re Florida?
yeah, He would only be going to someone who wants to contend, and even then, the 2nd line becomes what, Flash Morrison and fehr? Id move flash before Semin if I’m running to the cup.
Semin will single handledly win one playoff series.
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
They could themselves move him, or there is an outside chance they could sign him to a deal. I don’t like moving him from a Caps standpoint, anyway…
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I think it would be about the same. They’re both elite players, and I think Vokoun’s contract is neither here nor there in terms of trade value. If Vokoun is traded, I’d expect the asking price to be a 1st rounder, a young roster player, and a prospect.
That said, it would make no sense for the Caps to give up as big a piece as Semin to get Vokoun. This is just a direct reply to your question – that’s the only upside of acquiring Semin that I would see for Florida.
That’ll be the asking price, but they’ll never get that much.
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Depending on the roster player/prospect, I’d happily pay it. If Alzner or Carlson are involved I wouldn’t, but if it’s Fehr and an Angus/Bouchard-type nonessential prospect, I would. No disrespect to Fehr (or Florida’s front office in case that’s a horrendous offer).
You’re talking about a great goaltender but one who:
A) Has an NTC
B) Is getting up there in years (33)
C) Has another year left on his contract
D) Makes almost $6m
E) Did I mention the NTC?
F) Has exactly jack and/or shit for a playoff resume (if you pay attention to such things)
FLA might want Chapagne, but they’ll have to settle for prosecco.
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You’ll note that’s pretty severely elevated by one stellar pre-lockout performance. After that, he’s got a much more pedestrian stat line. (Small sample size, though.)
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
That stat line is inflated by a defensive system that allows him to face a lot of shots while getting no goal support.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
by Wheeler on Mar 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Be that as it may, there are many, many GMs in the league who will look at his his playoff performances and think twice.
The above list wasn’t my arguments, it was “hypothetical GM arguments.”
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Fair enough. But if we’re in a world where Andy Sutton is worth a 2nd rounder and Carolina is demanding a 1st and a roster player for Ray Whitney (not that they’ll get that), I don’t see how a supposedly top 5 starting goalie wouldn’t be worth that much.
I guess there is the fact, though, that the only teams that truly need him can’t afford him and the teams that can afford him have less reason to give so much. I think that might depress the price more than the NTC.
And the fact that he won’t waive his NTC to go to the shitty teams that could both afford him and need him.
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Why is the NTC such a big issue? Do you think Vokoun would not jump at an opportunity to play in Washington?
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Not if Keith Ballard was there to keep him grounded.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 2, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think it matters from an asking price standpoint. Theoretically the Panthers could have 29 teams to deal with if it didn’t exist. It does, so now they have as many as Vokoun says. If there are only one or two interested, it’s like the price goes down.
NTC doesn’t really mean much in this case, especially at one year remaining on the deal…
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Why would you say that?
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Because if the Caps did this deal, they would not be moving him for the remainder of the contract. Frankly, I can’t see any team worried about an NTC with Vokoun.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
You’re fundamentally missing the point of the argument.
Vokoun will only waive the NTC to go to certain teams. This reduces the “demand” for his services. Holding supply of Vokoun constant, lowering demand lowers his price.
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I think the point is that the teams interested in Vokoun for a deadline deal are only teams that he would waive the NTC for, so while that is generally true, the NTC isn’t a factor to depress the price here.
The teams might not be one and the same. Chicago and Washington might both want him, but Vokoun might say “screw Washington, I can’t work with another right-catching goalie”. Thus the Panthers lose the options to play Washington and Chicago off one another the price probably comes down.
Unless FLA hides it from WAS and CHI and tries to bid them off each other and then just takes CHI’s best offer at the end (even if the WAS is a little better). There are still ways for FLA to play it.
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RIght, but the instant you limit the potential suitors to contenders you cut out many of the teams that need goalies and have cap space.
Consider the fact that he probably won’t uproot his family unless he thinks he can compete for the cup. Right now, that probably limits him to about 6 teams. Of those six teams, how many both have the need and the cap space? I can’t think of one other than the Caps…
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I’m not missing your argument, fella. I just don’t agree that the existence of an NTC, in this case, significantly depresses the price he fetches.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Because if the Caps did this deal, they would not be moving him for the remainder of the contract. Frankly, I can’t see any team worried about an NTC with Vokoun.
My point is not that the acquiring team is “worried” about the NTC. (I’m also not sure what you mean by that – are you implying that the Caps would be worried about their ability offload Vokoun later on?)
My point is that Vokoun has to agree to waive the NTC and, likely as not, will only waive it to go to a Cup contender. Most Cup contenders do not want Vokoun, because they already have a #1 goalie, or they cannot afford Vokoun, because of his salary.
In a market where the supply of a good is fixed, reducing the number of potential consumers should, ceteris paribus, lower the price paid for the good.
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Don’t think so. But I don’t think the NTC is such a big deal, since he’d likely waive it for a contender and any team picking him up is doing it for the duration of the deal.
Ok. Here’s the problem though – that immediately limits the number of teams bidding for him. To put it simply, imagine a venn diagram like this.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 2, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Not just FLA, but any rebuilding team. Unless you say “we can have him and then trade him for a ton at the deadline next year” but I don’t think that makes a ton of sense. It’s basically the same position you’d be in with Vokoun (though it does purge the NMC) and Vokoun is probably a more valuable asset to most GMs.
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Florida would want young, cheap, high end talent in return for Vokoun. Young becuase it gives them a longer window of cost certainty and time to reap the beneifts of having them on the roster.
Semin does not offer the long window.
So, while FLA would no doubt like, in a vacuum, to have Semin on the roster, he’s probably not what they’re looking to get back for Vokoun.
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You had me at no problem.
Great photo shop … but they both won gold … ug …
by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 2, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah… My heart sank when I saw 87 skating away from the goal in OT. Made me angry that Parise scored at all, putting us in a position to have to eat this shitburger for years to come.
You had me at no problem.
Tell me you wouldn’t want Zack as a Cap?
by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
There's a contest at Puck Daddy...
I put up a fan shot about it a few hours ago.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
When i read that the Maple Leafs brass was watching Hershey and the Marlies, I thought they were either looking mostly at their own guys, or making a list of what they’ll do business for. Phaneuf, problem child or not, would be a good fit on washingtons ice; their locker room I don’t know about since I have no idea why he wasn’t a popular teammate. Chemistry, being key, its still interesting because Toronto doesn’t have all that much to offer, but Washington shure as hell does. That and Burke is no dummy; I’d like to see if he intended to keep Phaneuf.
Tronna is going to make some noise in the next 24 hours, but color me shocked if Phaneuf is part of the equation of any deal. He is ’zactly the kind of player Burke covets.
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Agreed, but he’s also one hell of a chip and Burke needs about 5 more guys. Phaneuf will bring in 3, I think (one maybe as a draft pick, since he has none and can’t rebuild without them).
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Do not want Dion for that money and term.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 2, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
According to Bob McK referring to StL fax
Brad Boyes available. MTL may have interest.
He has played C in past though mainly Wing this year, Any interest on our end?
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we’d probably have to give up too much for it to be appealing. what does StL need?
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by ns on Mar 2, 2010 4:00 PM EST up reply actions
interesting
Boyes would certainly be a good 2C for you, I think.
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Yeah, and if we pick up Avery, Hartnell, and Koci along with Boyes, they can skate with Chimera on the “Caps fans hate these dudes” line.
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
Why would Caps fans hate Boyes?
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yes. Backes destroyed Semin (or was it Ovi?)
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by ns on Mar 2, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Neither, he crossed checked Semin in the back during a time Semin was fighting through injuries. Semin was in the middle of a dangling clinic on a 1 on 3 and it went unpenalized.
Given the cheap shots of this year, this one seems a bit distant and less in needed of continued hatin’.
IIRC
Semin was in his like first game back and Backes cross-checked him in the lower back into the boards, got 2mins for boarding, but Semin missed games after that. Pinched nerve or something.
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by red army line on Mar 3, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
Backes > Boyes long term for Caps
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by ns on Mar 2, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Backes > Boyes in the short term as well.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
Backes, unavailable. Considered future Blues captain.
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Oh yeah, Backes isn’t going anywhere. I was just pointing out that I would take Backes (and some others) over Boyes any day of the week if I had my pick off the Blues roster.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 2, 2010 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
Both of you just nailed two of the other players I’d take before Boyes.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 2, 2010 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
all this StL talk and no mention of Jackman? He’s the Blue I would take over the other names…. oh yeah, we’re talking about C’s
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I wouldn’t take Jackman over any of those other guys. I wouldn’t hate getting him, but he’s below those Cs for sure.
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Doesn’t turn 28 until the playoffs and is under contract until ’11-12. Decent stability at the position, but feels like Fehr/Flash, prospect (Mackan?) and a pick.
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Pick wouldn’t be that good. Giving a top 6 RFA on a cheap deal and a first round C prospect is a lot.
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Agreed. I’m only market guessing, since apparently Andy fucking Sutton is worth a 2.
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So does that make you adjust your wish list? I’m starting to think Seidenberg might be the best choice for us.
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That’s secondary to the fact he’d immediately be able to eat more minutes than everyone except Green and Schultz. He’d give us another 3-4 guy, which we need. Green – Schultz, Poti – Seiden, Pothier – Erskine/Mo/Alz/Carlson. Whammy.
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Yup. I’d do Green/Seidenberg but that’s just nitpicking.
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Certainly cheaper than DH.
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If he’s getting a 2/3, sure. If Friedman’s worth anything:
One exec — haven’t heard of any player-for-player deals. All are player for picks.
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You mean all the FLA guys?
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Yeah. And I think that works best with us. No need to move out anything except to make room for the new guy. Flash for Hamhuis is nice but keeping Flash and getting Seidenberg is probably better overall.
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If we play “would have, could have” for a second, if only Juice/ShaMo got moved at the beginning of the year, signing him out of camp would have been nice.
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Seidenberg? Yeah it would have. That’s tough hind sight though. We still had the Nyls cap squeeze and there wasn’t a good way to purge Mo’ Juice.
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Damn, forgot about Nyls (knows where that’s going).
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And Juice’s epic arbitration. We were hoping he’d be able to walk but it was not to be.
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numbers pretty weak for him this yr. wonder what the buzz is on BB over in St Louis?
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by ns on Mar 2, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
The Blues are in rebuild mode. They made it to the playoffs last year, but JD knows that they’re not really a Cup contender with what they have and they need to do some serious retooling.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
this was my thinking too, which led to a Jackman swap thought….but there’s about six guys I’d want before Brad Boyes
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From Garrioch on same topic
Blues sent out an email offering up Brad Boyes and Carlo Coliacovo.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
saw that…grain of salt and all but what about Coliacovo?
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Carlo's stats
SPLIT GP G A PTS +/- PIM SOG SPCT PPG PPA SHG SHA GWG ATOI PROD
Reg Season 48 4 14 18 -1 49 46 8.7 1 3 1 1 0 17:30 46:38
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Blues’ve been scouting WAS for like ever this year.
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Mmmmmmm Boyes. I’d be pumped.
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Fehr and Balanced loves Boyes.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 2, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine the line combo if we put him at 2C
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Laich-Boyes-Semin?
I have a C on my heart.
by boutros23 on Mar 2, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much. . . when u say it out loud instead of imagining it, it takes the comedy out of it =(
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Unless you put Laich at C and Boyes at LW, which I believe has happened before in both cases.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 2, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
lol. i didnt think of that.
nicely done
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The only issue with Boyes is he’s owed 4.5 mil this year and 4 mil per year the next 2
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Which is definitely an issue for a team that’s going to have to re-sign the guys we need to. I’m not really comfortable committing that to him when he’s in a down year and Backstrom isn’t locked up yet.
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I am really bothered that we haven’t signed him yet.
He gets more expensive every week, imo.
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Yeah and just knowing what GMGM has to work with would be nice right now.
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We’d still be completely in the dark even with Backstrom signed. We’d just have a little less cap space
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I’m saying knowing what kind of cap space GMGM would have going into next year. Taking Vokoun or Boyes now hurts because he still doesn’t know what he has to commit to Backstrom. And he has to commit to Backstrom.
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you think if we dont trade for anyone (that was weird to say/type) a Backstrom deal will be announced next week? i thought they had the financials worked out and it was Backs wanting 4-5 years and the Caps wanting 10 years.
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I think the two are completely unrelated. No matter what we do I don’t think it’ll affect the Backstrom talks.
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Boyes wouldn’t really improve the defense on the 2nd line, and he’s not a physical guy as much as a playmaker. Thats 3 playmakers (and one sick shooter) on the same line. I like Boyes, but not neceassarily with those two.
I like Hartnell and would take that punk in a heartbeat. Physical, skilled, and cooky. Give em Theodore!
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Boyes has a hell of a shot. So does Semin. I think somehow they would make it work. I’d take Hartnell as well, I just don’t know why the Flyers would give him to the Caps.
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Ray Emery Done for Season
According to @TPanotch.
Bone graft surgery on hip.
The Flyers G situation is now certifiably ugly.
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As ugly as…well… Emery’s hip…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, they gotta get someone. Don’t think they can roll with Leighton and Biron?
Whoever they do get has to be cheap, though.
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I dunno, it kind of means they need to shed some salary, quick, to get their goaltending figured out, fast, or the playoffs are one and out. Lets see if GMGM recognizes that they’re over a barrel; its either give up on the playoffs or make something happen, fast.
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
And lots of pain for Emery...
Bone grafts are very painful…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
ouch….both to Emery and to the Flyers
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Emery will have bone graph and is done for the season. We knew once he wnet LTI he was done. Flyers having tech trouble sending this out
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tech trouble must mean “can’t stop throwing up in mouth”
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions
ok, little more info from Kevin Allen of USA Today
Philadelphia Flyers G Ray Emery has avascular necrosis and will have a bone graf on his right hip to alleviate the issue.
necrosis isn’t something to screw around with. that’s some scary shit.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Meh. I had it in my wrist. They just ended up taking some bones out and putting some metal in. (Did end my soldiering career tho…)
Probably not as easy with the hip though.
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Meh. I had it in my wrist.
That’s what we call “D’ohboy syndrome” around my place.
by David Getz on Mar 2, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
avascular = no blood supply to the area. Hence the necrosis. Bad juju.
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Then it turns out he wasn’t actually traded, he was just trying to bail…
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I don’t want Fehr to go < I want the Caps to win a Stanley Cup
by marks4java on Mar 2, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’d trade Ovechkin if it made our chances of Cup Championship 100%.
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BREAKING NEWS: Capitals trade LW Alex Ovechkin and C Nicklas Backstrom to Pittsburgh for D Brooks Orpik and C Jordan Staal. Nice job GMGM!
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
by RedBirdie on Mar 2, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. Ovechkin is great but he doesn’t WIN.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Ovechkin is dirty.
GO FLYERZZ!
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Id hunt mcphee down immediately and then stop watching hockey (don’t think they’d let me in the institution)
by The Jade Donkey on Mar 2, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
please don’t start any posts with ‘breaking news’ in all caps on this day or the next. Everything in my world stopped for a precious second. ….
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I would do it in a heartbeat, even if it meant another couple years of rebuilding. I don’t care about anyone on this team more than the team winning that big trophy.
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from Tim Panaccio,
Given how emphatic Laviolette has been on Leighton, I don’t see why the Flyers would change course here. They knew Leighton was the guy …
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What does rec'd mean?
man it’s hard to keep up with all the posts…
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Under the ‘actions’ option, there is a ‘recommend’ option.
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Thx. Who is it recommended to? there must be a manual around here…
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under Rec’d FanPosts on the top right of the page, read up on “Japers’ Rink Glossary, v 2.0” I believe all is explained in there…
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by mch on Mar 2, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
TPanotch: BD Gallof says OTT, Tampa, Caps, Chicago, Flyers are possible destinations for Roloson
Not sure I see why that makes sense for the Caps. From PD’s Trade Deadline Twitter Tracker.
Trade Threeormore plus Fehr or Flash for Vokoun. Also, a real nasty big defenseman would be nice.
/Actual CLED
Speaking of FLA, I always thought Seidenberg would have been a reasonable, steady addition to the D. Kind of surprised GMGM didnt make a play.
Trade Threeormore plus Fehr or Flash for Vokoun. Also, a real nasty big defenseman would be nice.
/Actual CLED
If that were possible McPhee should probably consider a career change. You know, since he’s the first person to learn how to practice alchemy.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 2, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, here’s something from the Edmonton Journal re: the Caps and Staios. Sorry if posted before (credit to rockarts on the Tweet).
I don’t see what Staios brings that our other d-men don’t.
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Do you watch him play often, or just looking at stats?
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Cojones, do you remember that shot blocking display he put on Ovie when we played them earlier this year? Only person on the Caps I have ever seen block like that is Q.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 2, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve cooled a lot on Staios but if the deal is Staios and a 4th for Erskine I think I’d be happy with that.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 2, 2010 4:43 PM EST reply actions 13 recs
’twas more work than it looks like, trust me :p
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I had no idea he would be trending on Twitter and the most prized acquisition of the deadline not named Vokoun.
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Next week we’re gonna hear that McPhee tried to get Hamuis but Poile upped the asking price to Backstrom and a first.
whats more likely
Is that the deal Rink Rats would’ve jumped on was available to McPhee or Poile and one of them turned it down.
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Should tell GMGM and GMDP to just let their SBN bloggers TCOB.
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Why would he want Backstrom? Did SWE use him at D during the Olympics?
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Ouch, but truth. The D-pattern will become alarming if for some reason on God’s green earth we acquire another tomorrow.
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Even if you don’t acquire another one, I’d be pretty disappointed in GMDP if the roster stays as is. A team like NSH, with Weber and Suter and Hamhuis and Fanson, and the only thing you do is pick up another D? Makes no sense. The Grebeshkov move has to be a prelude.
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Thats actually what I meant, I’m just totally wiped out today.
Gonna be interesting, for sure. Sure am glad there’s a game tonight.
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On the Flyers wishing to acquire Hamhuis. I figure they have a more pressing need for a goalie than still another defenseman.
Emery’s out on injured reserve. So they’re down to Boucher. (The name literally translates to Butcher.)
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Leighton is apparently Laviolette’s guy, but yeah…they don’t have the scratch for a Hamhuis
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Nice, Chris. I agree that with the embarrassing wealth of talent on your blueline, it makes sense to move the Hammer and he will be dealt.
I wonder if Poile would take Fehr and a 2nd round pick? Dave Poile rules.
I will say that i don’t think it was a coincidence that Fehr was Tarik’s specific example of “I don’t want my phone to ring”-itis.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 2, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
I’d sure as hell take Fehr/2nd for him.
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I’m at the point where I’d take either/or. But that would have to involve a pick now that we have our depth D.
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i mean, your post says needs scoring. ours says needs defence. why doesn’t the gm network function like sb nation…? lol.
i just dont want hamhuis to go to philly. no thanks.
I should qualify that by saying that that price is too steep – I’m just wondering what Poile considers a socks-blowing-off offer.
question – if the Caps were to make a trade who do you think will break it / report in full correctly first? nhl.com or Cl or JP’s Rink / SBnation or Corey via twitter….
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TSN would.
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I dunno, Corey/Tarik can be pretty quick when they want to be.
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
Is Corey still independently working that beat right now?
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They never worked for the same company and Corey still has his contacts. I don’t think much has changed with his ability to report on the Caps. I bet he beats Tarik on Twitter.
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He definitely does, although Tarik has been getting better with it.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 2, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
ahh yes, forgot about them… unlike me purposely forgetting about Eklund.
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Re Roloson via Bob McK
To those suggesting Roloson is a Flyer, I was just told by Isles he will be in net for them tonight. I’m told nothing is done, FWIW
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Bob is such a calming influence on all the BS. Refreshing.
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didn't know about that one
Nice
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the positive of that disastrous tweet was a really amusing blingee. Natty can probably find it for us
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
You mean this?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
by D'ohboy on Mar 2, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Thank god for subject lines, that photoshop job could easily induce seizures.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
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For exploding my monitor and head simultaneously ;)
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It’s that you all have shitty computers/monitors.
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I know right? My laptop doesn’t even flinch.
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My laptop monitor busted ages ago, so I’m hooked to a monster LCD screen. I’m pretty sure its not gonna ’splode. It better not, anyway.
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Been visiting the SBN Jackets blog?
;)
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I don’t think I’ve been over there much.
I just realized I’ve been a member of OTF for almost a year and have yet to post :/ My bad! This will be remedied soon I swear!
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I think your snark meter is busted ;)
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TSN is reporting it’s a trade to the dreaded Penguins for a player and prospect. It also says the Pens dont have cap room for him right now so expect aother move by them too.
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Trade’s been made. Poni for prospect Luca Caputi and Pens D-man Martin Skoula
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 2, 2010 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
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Tune in to Preds/Oilers!
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Does this include Directv? I don’t see any of the channels enabled.
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haven’t turned on TV yet, I assume so
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It is supposed to. When I get one of their e-mail newsletters last week the preview was listed.
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From Mirtle:
The Chicago Blackhawks have acquired defenseman Nick Boynton from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for future considerations.
One word: Why?
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Weird. I was going to guess that Sopel is on the way out and they wanted a body to fill a spot. Boynton is cheap and expiring so it makes sense.
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From Dreger:
Leafs are working on a trade involving Ponikarovsky. Not done yet, but getting closer.
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Why would they move him? Seems like they need more young talent.
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He’s got loads of talent.
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Brassard took part in pre-game skate, then scratched. Two sources say injury is not THAT bad, prompting speculation… Torres is playing
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He’s also had shoulder issues this year I think. Maybe last year too.
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Yeah incurred in a fight with James Neal
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TSN reports
Canes scratch Aaron Ward tonight
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Which would be amazing. . .cause there are only 30 teams
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It means Jokerit will be moving Nylander to Edmonton, along with Mrs. Nylander…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Dreger says on TSN
It is seeming more and more probable that the team working on the trade with TOR for Poni is PIT.
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I hope it doesn't go through
Because Pittsburgh’s weakest link is wingers.
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Not a Poni fan by any stretch of the imagination but I would be ticked if PIT got him and we stayed put.
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No reason for us to get involved except to raise the price for him.
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TFP reports:
That it looks as if LA is focusing on Raffi Torres now as they are not interested in parting with a prospect and 2nd for Poni
To which I add: Would you rather have Leprosy or Polio?
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Tough call. If the cost for Poni is a 2 and a prospect how does PIT afford him? They already moved their 2, and they have a very shallow prospect pool.
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Bob McK mentioned the name of a possible prospect but i missed it. I think he later refuted and apologized for it on Twitter though.
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Tangradi is their top F prospect. They got him in the Whitney trade. That would be a lot to give up for a rental. Part of me wouldn’t mind if PIT made that trade. Eventually not having a farm will catch up with them.
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Yeah. ST/This season, Poni and Leopold is a kickass deadline upgrade.. but LT, what are they trying to do? Hope for the Detroit late-round miracles?
If it is Tangradi (who is a prospect I can see Burkie going after) and a 3rd or so, that’s pretty good for Poni/Leafs.
As I sit here working on final papers, I’m loving these updates. Keep em coming RB
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
From Adrian Dater of All Things Avs
I think there’s a minor chance the Avs might take a chance on Carolina’s Joe Corvo – a good power-play D-man. It’s possible the Avs might bite the bullet and sacrifice a Liles or (maybe) a Wolski for him. The thing with Corvo is, he’s in the last year of his contract and would be a rental player. The Avs would likely want a pick from Carolina, too, but Jim Rutherford doesn’t want to give up any draft picks, so I see a deal there as unlikely. I’ve heard plenty of whispers that San Jose might take a shot on Liles, with Douglas Murray possibly coming the other way, but I think it’s highly unlikely
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If Douglas Murray were possible in any way from San Jose, I would do backflips for him. Wishful thinking though I am sure.
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Love me some Douglas Murray. I think he’d fit in nicely on our blueline. Can’t imagine that’d ever happen though.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 7:54 PM EST up reply actions
No chance SJS moves Murray. No chance. But like RB above, if he’s available GMGM better make a hard play for him.
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Corvo...
…is a really good fit for the Avs.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s a terrible fit for us. Certainly not my top choice but I’d prefer him in our top 4 than Shamo.
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There are days I prefer an orange highway cone to ShaMo
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 2, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Now now...
ShaMo is a lot of things, but he’s pretty good at keeping folks from the net, and a road cone does make skaters alter their trajectory.
Q. What’s the difference between Phil Housley and a road cone?
A. You have to skate around the road cone.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 3, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
@TFP
Based on your emails, Ethan Moreau’s going to 7 different teams at the same time… I believe that’s a physical impossibility
Who really wants Moreau anyway? Not that I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a towel in the locker room…
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<——— Does not want to see Ethan or any dude not named Ethan in a towel in the locker room given a choice.
And there’s that, too.
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by boutros23 on Mar 2, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes T-Bone Wolk , who like GE Smith who played with H&O for years, he was member of the Saturday Night LIve band in the late 80s-early 90s
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GE Smith, and the Saturday Night Live Band!
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You should be jealous. It was a great show.
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I might have missed this at some point, but what exactly is the non-Rink connection between you two?
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
Well except for the fact that you are a Rabbit and he’s the manscot. ;-)
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lol.
She’s from my sister from another mister. I have no idea what recess of my mind that came from
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I like it.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty much this. My long-lost Canadian brother. (And my relatives came through Canada at some point, so we could be related…)
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I KNEW it was yet another set of siblings!
Although RB’s fascination with your pantsless-hockey-viewing would border on disturbing if that was actually the case.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions
I like them because they are basically old school R&B duo with a pop flair. I have diverse musical tastes and one of them love old school R&B & Motown stuff. Plus, like a lot of old school folks they played with quality musicians. No Autotuned crap or lame backing bands comprised of a keyboard and drum machine.
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Via Tom Reed of Puck-Rakers
The Blue Jackets have scratched defenseman Milan Jurcina (undisclosed injury) and center Derick Brassard. Brassard took pre-game warm-up.
The club is saying it’s an upper body injury. I have been assured by a source within the organization that Brassard is not part of any trade package. The person said it’s the same injury he suffered in the Feb. 14 game against Chicago
Via me: Darn.
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hmmmmmmmmmm, Juice was healthy at the Olympics.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Too much Crosby beatdown will wear anyone out.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
Via Bob McK
Lots of spec Ponikarovsky to Pitt is done but we’re told not quite yet. Sure looks like Poni to Pitt for a prospect.
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Should I pull out the PANIC button yet?
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Sid can’t work with elite wingers, so I’m not worried about him working with a guy like Poni.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Malkin has wingers?
no, really, I wonder about the wingers the Pens have. The Caps 4th line wingers are an upgrade over the Pens second line wingers some days. Imagine the goal scoring machine that Matt Bradley would be with an elite center!
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
well he is a center.
The wingers are their biggest hole, along with their “low on braun, high on skill” blue line.
Poni is adding some good goal-scoring and Vet presence while Leopold adds some beef. Pretty good deadline for them. . .but u are right, they still have pretty low quality wingers
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Matt Bradley was a Penguin. Still baffles my mind that he improved enough to stay in the NHL. He was awful. Good for him, though.
He was trying to take the Pens down from the inside
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Still baffles my mind that he improved enough to stay in the NHL.
not only that, he has a devout cult following. If Matt Bradley asked me to drink kool-aid, I totally would.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
The Blood Cult of Matt Bradley. Tune in Wednesday when Japers Rink offers their first burnt offering to Matt Bradley to give him an endless supply of the blood for his strident ways.
erskine has scored...now i can die in peace
Just be careful, we don’t want Brads bleeding too much and putting out the fire…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 2, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know how it can surprise you that a guy that can skate that well and will play physical like him could be a shock. He’s never going to light it up, but his skating and size are pretty damn good.
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it’s always the wingers’ fault!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 2, 2010 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
Via Bob McK further on Poni Trade
Won’t surprise me if the prospect is Luca Caputi, but let’s see on that. Just spec for now.
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Not all that much. I don’t think he projects to be anything special. I think he’s a little low for Poni, Burke should be able to get more.
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On Caputi (from Hockey's Future page) Grade 7.0
LW 6’2 184 21 y/o
Caputi has all of the physical tools to develop into a power forward at the NHL level. At 6-2, 184 pounds, Caputi’s game is based upon paying a price physically. He scores a lot of his goals from in front of the net, and is more than willing to muck it up in the corners. One area where Caputi must improve is his skating, where his initial stride is not as quick as it needs to be
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And
The 21-year-old power forward started the 2009-10 season strong with 13 goals and 12 assists in his first 36 games. As a reward for his hard work, Caputi was called up to the NHL on January 5th because of injuries. Through four games, he tallied one goal and one assist while averaging 11:46 of ice time. He also played with physical zeal, registering nine hits and on several occasions trying to find a partner with whom to drop the gloves.
Caputi’s game was not without flaws, however. He is willing to take punishment around the net and along the boards while still being able to maintain possession of the puck. But this was an area that needed work over his four-game cup of coffee as he was frequently overpowered around the net and along the boards.
Since returning to the AHL on January 22nd, Caputi’s play has risen to another level, posting 10 goals and 12 assists in the past 15 games. Through 51 games so far, he has 23 goals and 24 assists.
Sounds exactly like a Burke player. I’m sure Burke went hard after Tangradi but PIT wasn’t going to just move him.
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I don’t know what it means to anyone, but I was hoping the Pens would move Caputi this deadline. I think this is about how high his value is going to get. He has shown he could score in juniors and in the AHL, but so did Randy Robitaille and Rico Fata. And they were both better skaters than Caputi. I was definitely not like other Pens fans who were high on Caputi.
That was my take. He seems kind of like our Osala. Lot’s of tantalizing traits but fails at the most basic one. I was hoping PIT would have to give up more.
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A draft pick could also be heading TOR’s way acc to TFB. No word what round
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Caputi may be good in the future. . .but I feel Poni would fetch more than a prospect. . .
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At least more than that prospect. Poni’s not exactly a star. He’s good, he’s big, he has skill, but he tends to disappear as well.
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Do you know anything about Caputi?
He lives on the second floor.
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He’s played, well, up with the big club once or twice.
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So someone goes on waivers? Who?
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There’s no probably for me. He definitely is. Especially when he does the junior stuff and draft day? I love Bobby Mac.
I’m actually pretty sad I can’t watch TSN Draftcentre :(
Yeah, I’m gonna be one pissed off lady tomorrow, stuck in meetings at work much of the day. Twitter don’t fail me now!
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I don’t even get Twitter – I’m on my spring break, and I’m spending it in Eastern Europe. I actually caught the gold medal game in a bar in Munich, my three friends and I surrounded by Germans and Irish, trying to explain to them hockey rules. I’m going to be so twitchy tomorrow thinking about possible moves or non-moves.
At least you get that. I’ll be on the road and teaching all day.
I should have saved my old signature. Oh well!
I requested off work, I do have english at 11 though, prime trading time dammit.
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by what Juneau about that? on Mar 2, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely agree with that. Great stuff on the Olympic politics this week.
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Entertainment value I also really like Friedman, but I’m going to go with Bobby Mac for depth and analysis.
McK continues to rock:
TSNBobmckenzie:
One day all this premature reporting (before trade call) will blow up in some poor *******’s face. Just hope it’s not mine. LOL.
by cuqui on Mar 2, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol. Grebeshkov scored for NSH already. . .
quick start eh?
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WOOT
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by Chris Burton on Mar 2, 2010 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
From Dreger
Pitt told Carolina on Monday night they were out of Whitney running. Ponikarovsky must be why.
From me: With the extension complications mucking up the trade to the Kings, looks more and more like Whitney’s staying a Cane
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Good!
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From TFB re: Poni Trade
Being told a draft pick may also be heading to TO.
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Ponikarovsky is a 30 year-old player who maxes out around 20 goals and disappears for stretches. Burke just got a player who is considered (by some people…not me) to be a potential 25-goal net crashing winger.
That’s why I’m not too concerned about Poni. He’s never struck me as the guy to turn it on for playoff hockey, and I don’t recall him ever proving that wrong. He’s an upgrade, and Shero is killing it, but he’s not a star by any means.
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I have said enough about what I think about Poni in here. But I hope this lights a fire under GMGM to do something and not stay put.
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PPP saying he has stone hands and no shot accuracy. Maybe he can be the second coming of Dupuis for PIT.
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To add to what PPP said, the man rarely uses his size to its full advantage
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Yup, that’s one of the first things you notice. So they got a poor man’s Viktor Kozlov?
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I think Shero knows all of this about Poni. And that Caputi will, at best, develop into a similar diappearing player.
But he is still an upgrade over Dupuis, Fedotenko, Talbot, et al.
Unless Feds can keep bringing that playoff magic….
Agreed. PIT needed help at the wing for sure, and Poni is one of the best available right now. And he doesn’t even have to be that good to succeed on that roster.
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Also, not that you can put too much into +/-, but Ponikarovsky has been a + player every year since the lockout for the Leafs. Which is saying something.
Yeah, at the very least he’s not going to be a defensive liability. Poni and Leopold are definitely nice upgrades for PIT. GMGM has to do something.
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15 hrs to go – push it!
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I feel like he is going to. I mean, is there any team in better position to make a move to win it all now? No way. Cap room. Picks. Prospects. It will boggle my mind if he doesn’t go after a defenseman.
Count me among those starting to get nervous. The Devils and now the Pens have both made big upgrades. Yes, you have to give something to get something but it doesn’t seem like the Pens are exactly mortgaging the farm on these upgrades and if McPhee doesn’t have an answer then I’ll be extremely disappointed.
Well, the Pens didn’t have much of a farm to mortgage. They only have two high end prospects (I don’t consider Caputi high end) and a first round pick. That was about the extent of their farm. So no, they didn’t sell it, but they aren’t in a great spot with prospects either.
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Yeah, I looked at their farm system last year.
They are not in good shape. WB/S plays well as a team; however, none of them are really gonna do well except for like 3 of them (Caputi included, he may plateau though).
Alot of their youngins are on the nhl squad and plenty of their drafts have been sub par
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I think WBS is also a very veteran laden team, especially their key contributors. I don’t think they have a full line of prospects lighting it up like HER. Dupres is in the Q right now and he looks like their answer to Alzner.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Well they’ve got a good amount of younger players; however, they dont produce like at all.
You are right that the team is full of veterans though.
the Q?
Bah-Ram-Ewe, Ovechkin will wreck you. Fear the Furious Fleece!