Friday Caps Clips: A Rare Division Loss
by J.P. on Mar 19, 2010 7:04 AM EDT
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- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's loss - only the fourth in twenty Southeast Division games - from the us, the WaPo (blog, gamer), Vogs, DCEx, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, FFODC, StC, MD Pro Sports, A Capital Offense and RMNB.
- The pundits aren't picking the Caps. Good. [TSN]
- Which is more impressive - the maturation of Mike Green or the numbers he's put up? OK, fine, it's the numbers. But the maturation is closing the gap, and quickly. [NHL.com]
- Green as the second-best blueliner in the League this season? I can buy that. [Puck Prospectus]
- "Caps most explosive even without 'O' -- and can play D, too" Could you talk in my good ear? I thought I heard you say the Caps can play D, too. [CBSSports]
- You knew it was coming: Jim Kelley ripping Alex Ovechkin. What you might not have seen coming? Kelley ripping Ted Leonsis. And the Caps' PR staff. [SI]
- Jeff Schultz love? Why yes, I'll link to it. [Corey Masisak]
- Ah, the spring of 2008. I remember it like it was two years ago. [Corey Masisak]
- An interview with Jason Chimera completes the Corey hat trick (a natural hattie at that - three in a row). [Corey Masisak]
- Will the Caps bring back Jose Theodore? Should they? It's a cop out, but I'm going with "depends on the price." [RtR]
- The Caps are good today and set up to be good tomorrow. [The Hockey News]
- A little score sheet tidying up. [Dump n' Chase]
- One of your own - Your Nation's Capital - gets a bit of the star treatment. [Barrie Examiner]
- Finally, per the HHoF, on this date back in 2001, "Calle Johansson scored a goal and an assist playing in his 1,000th career NHL game." To date, only four Swedes have played more games in the NHL than Calle Jo.
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This is a little to the side of the Clips, but I turned on On the Fly to watch with breakfast, and they were talking the Boston/Pitt game aftermath. Asked if it’s “over”, Kevin Weeks says, “Over?” It’s not over until they say it’s over." I’ve liked Weeks as a talking head since the first time I saw him on NHL Live last spring. He’s great in front of the camera.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Suggestion: would you mind popping these shift charts in the recap for the game it’s for rather than in the next day’s Clips post? Game-specific discussion still goes on in the recap posts the next day, and it’s a better fit, IMO. Thanks.
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How do they actually log the times for players? Does one person sit somewhere in the building and just watch the benches the whole time?
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I wondered that too. I’d have to think they go over the game tape to figure it out, but maybe they’re actually that good.
I actually have a friend of a friend who does that sort of statistic for the NHL – let me see if I can find out how they do it.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know exactly what they do, but it’s logged in real-time and updated in near-real-time on the time on ice sheets on nhl.com (http://www.nhl.com/scores/htmlreports/20092010/TV021044.HTM).
I think there’s just one official timekeeper keying in when each player comes on or off the ice. So each time might be off by a second or two, and I guess there’s a chance for bigger errors, but they seem pretty spot on from what I can tell.
Bring back Theo? No.
He is still a decent goalie and someone will give him a 2/yr contract @ $2.5+ per year, I think.
We do not need that do we? No. I’m ready for the Varlavirthby + cheap veteran (if we need that) experiment to begin. Its time to find who your real goalie is going to be for the next 10 years.
Bring on the 8 assed monkey.
I think the winter will be a good chance for the kids to get healthy again and battle it out for goalie. (It’s taking them both longer than we like. Varly’s probably ahead of Neuvy on that front at the moment but we’ll see what the weekend brings in Hershey. They’ve been altering Neuvy and Holtby, as of late and the guy they had earlier signed to be backup hasn;t played much lately.
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We are an impatient group. Goalies aren’t skilled forwards, they take time. Having said that we have 2 guys that are actually ahead of schedule. Both Varlamov and Neuvy has shown they belong in the league.
Brodeur didn’t come into the league and light it up, he got lit up too.
Goalies aren’t skilled forwards, they take time.
Agreed, but I think it’s a legitimate concern to think that they might not “arrive” while the rest of its team is in peak position to win.
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Agreed, thats why there is a caveat in my statement, if we need a veteran. At the deadline get one if neither Varlamov or Neuvy are ready for heat of playoff competition.
This team is good enough to win the SE will Squirts the Wonder Cow in net. I don’t care about the Presidents Trophy. Let the kids duke it out all season long until about March 1st and make your decision then.
Vokoun will still be available then.
Aye. The only problem with that is that it’s a roll of the dice that a guy you’d want is available then, you’re definitely going to have to overpay then, and you might have painted yourself into a corner w/r/t other issues that have sprung up during the season.
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UFA list of goalies 2011
Giguere, Jean-Sebastien " G 32 TOR $6,000,000 2011 (UFA)
Vokoun, Tomas " G 33 FLA $5,700,000 2011 (UFA)
Bryzgalov, Ilya " G 29 PHO $4,250,000 2011 (UFA)
Leclaire, Pascal " G 27 OTT $3,800,000 2011 (UFA)
Roloson, Dwayne " G 40 NYI $2,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Smith, Mike " G 27 TBL $2,200,000 2011 (UFA)
Anderson, Craig " G 28 COL $1,812,500 2011 (UFA)
Osgood, Chris " G 37 DET $1,416,666 2011 (UFA)
Conklin, Ty " G 33 STL $1,300,000 2011 (UFA)
Garon, Mathieu " G 32 CLB $1,200,000 2011 (UFA)
Labarbera, Jason " G 30 PHO $1,000,000 2011 (UFA)
Boucher, Brian " G 33 PHI $925,000 2011 (UFA)
Ersberg, Erik " G 28 LAK $750,000 2011 (UFA)
Howard, Jimmy " G 25 DET $716,666 2011 (UFA)
McElhinney, Curtis " G 26 ANA $535,000 2011 (UFA)
McKenna, Mike " G 26 NJD $500,000 2011 (UFA)
Curry, John " G 26 PIT $500,000 2011 (UFA)
MacIntyre, Drew " G 26 ATL $500,000 2011 (UFA)
Lots o’ crap there. Two names I could stomach (and I’d be surprised if one of them doesn’t take the League’s money and re-sign).
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You gotta think someone’s going to throw a LOT of money at Craig Anderson with the season he’s having. He’s only making 1.8?
I call that a bargain
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
You’d think that, but the Lanche aren’t even close to selling out games and may not want to pony up the loot for him.
Plus he’s unrestricted…I don’t think they’ll be able to keep up in a bargaining war for him, especially entering his prime at 28
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:54 AM EDT up reply actions
The best you’ve ever haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad?
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No Dan Ellis? He’s certainly a UFA after year’s end.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions
duh
Thanks, my bad. For some reason I thought Jiggy was a UFA this year and yeah. Anyway.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Talking about Nashville and goalies. Anders Linbäck looked very good in the first SEL play off game last night and he have had a solid season for Timrå maybe you guys have found a diamond in the rough. He’s a seventh rounder picked three spots after Della Rovere in the 2008 draft.
Good news for Nashville. Only three years until he’ll walk away from the organization!
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ow.
My defense of that is we actually re-signed Rinne, and if the last two weeks is any indication, that was a damn good move.
As much as people talk about us being loaded at D, we kind of have a goalie logjam (much like the Caps). Dekanich, Pickard, Linback, and Rinne are all future starters in the league (well maybe not Dex, but definitely Pickard).
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Right back atcha ;)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Nashville also has the smartest goalie prospect pool.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 19, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
That list makes me sad that GMGM passed on Bryz when he was available on Waivers in 07/08.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 19, 2010 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Bring back Theo? No.
What if Varly completely tanks (Pulls a Jim Carey) the rest of the season and the playoffs?
We trade him to Boston for great players.
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by jordanDC on Mar 19, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hah yea but where does that leave us with goalies? If Varly loses his shit, I got no problem signing with Jose again
Yep, I’d be ok with Jose and Neuvy. We’ve shown we can win with Jose over the last two years, and he’s as good or better now than when we signed him.
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If Theo has a strong Playoffs, he’ll be too pricey for us. We don’t want to keep paying nearly $5MM for him.
You had me at no problem.
Always a (slight) chance he’ll take a discount. If not, give Dan Ellis a call.
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For the record – Jim Carey, Jason Allison and Anson Carter to Boston for Bill Ranford, Adam Oates and Rick Tocchet.
Is that a clear victory for the Caps? Given Oatsie’s impact here, I would say so.
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Varlamov, Flash and Steckel for the corpse of Manny Fernandez, David Krejci and Milan Lucic.
Ok.
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Does Boston still have Manny under contract?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Milbury will get the GM job in Boston, and we can work out a deal… Flash, Varley, and a DSW Gift card for Chara, a first round pick, and 3 second round picks, and 2 cases of legal sized paper.
Milbury gets some shoes (and we know he loves shoes) and Gabby gets to make some quality copies!
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by iwearstripes on Mar 19, 2010 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, indeed. Given the salary cap constraints and the lack of exceptions, the old NBA nostrum holds doubly true for today’s NHL: never trade young for old.
Varly might never turn into a regular NHL goalie, and Neuvy might not either. But the value if one of them does is too much to get rid of any of them now.
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Ranford was also solid up until he got hurt and Olie emerged. Even after that, he was a solid backup.
He was one of my faves before he got traded to us because of some crazy save he made on a hockey highlight VHS tape that I’d watch like once a week. One of our friends that worked at Piney Orchard got a broken goal stick of his for me, I was cised.
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That’s awesome. I thought it was funny too everytime he ended up with the puck in his catcher, he would flip out onto the back of his hand, and then flip it to the ref. I got a kick out of that everytime, and I tried that for a time when I played goalie.
And BTW, I learned to skate at Piney Orchard. When did you frequent there? I skated there from about 91-95, and then my family moved to the eastern shore, where I kept playing there.
The year Olaf Kolzig took over (when Ranford took one in the cup in a game against Toronto and got Wally Pipped out of the lineup), he was 7-12-2, 2.79, .901 compared to Kolzig’s 33-18-10-1, 2.20, .920, and five shutouts.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 19, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, do I ever miss in-his-prime Olie.
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Disagree. JT60 is a pretty good goalie and should be resigned, but not as a #1 goalie per se because the Caps don’t actually play with one. BB hasn’t gone with one goalie for any decent stretch of time since he stepped behind the bench. This is not a criticism. Maybe the talking heads out there think the Caps have a goalie problem because they haven’t stuck with a #1 guy since Olie left.
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Not for nothing, but Theo could be re-signed for around $3m per to serve as a safety net. For that matter, Corvo and Belanger could be re-signed for modest raises.
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I would have said “no” to re-signing him at all before this year, but with the way he’s played, I wouldn’t really have a problem with another two-year deal. Of course, I worry about this being a contract-year type of thing, but again, if its at a reasonable price (like mid 3’s), sure.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:29 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it would be beneficial for either party if he only re-upped here for one. Neuvy and Varly both need more time to grow, and Theo will be 34 in September, so i’m pretty sure he wouldn’t want to go right back on the market again at 35.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions
You could get both of them for about $6ish I think, but that’s baseless speculation.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep, and still reup Theo.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
No thanx. Again, I’m with J Schon, why pay money you don’t have to. I’m fine with going with the young guys. In Irbe I Trust.
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Theodore might not be here next year (in fact, I think that likely), but I don’t think the Caps are going to give the keys to the car to a couple of guys who have so few NHL games between them There will be a veteran here, I think.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 19, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree. Veteran backup, though? Or veteran starter?
I’m betwixt and between on the answer to this one.
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Hey, me too! It’s nice to talk hockey with people you’ve got something in common with.
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I think it largely depends on how Varly plays for the rest of the season.
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by wickedwitch on Mar 19, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
W00t.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
We like Belanger? I haven’t seen too much that has impressed me so far.
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Same here. I think that position can be upgraded by what’s in Hershey.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Disagree, I don’t think there’s anyone ready to go in Hershey at the 2C spot now until Mackan plays a bit in Hershey, and that’s still a learning curve to undertake.
I think it’s less about liking Belanger and more disliking what the alternatives are/could be.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed on the lack of quality down the middle in HER.
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No love for Perrault? Jordan will be in here throwing down ;)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll clarify: I don’t think Mattheiu Perreault is ready to be a top-3 center on a Cup-contending team in 2010-11.
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Time to see what the guy can do.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Competition from Mackan next year (maybe) will certainly push them both to be their best.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 19, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Every time I want to say “no” I look at what the Fehr/Chimera/Morrison line and start to waver a little bit. That line’s been really good.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Not too fangrrly? ‘Cos I’m not.
Okay, maybe I am a little.
Delly’s team hung eleven biscuits on two goalies last night in their first playoff game. Clearly they wanted to impress their “south of the border” fans. Now that they know we’re watching.
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Your quotes were money. The writer could have done a better job explaining things, but that’s a minor quibble.
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by TheFuryUnleashed on Mar 19, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I finally got time to read it — you do us proud, YNC.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 19, 2010 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know who Kelley is referring to when he talks about someone from the Caps PR staff going off on a member of a national broadcast team?
And hi, long time reader, first time poster.
by difer on Mar 19, 2010 7:45 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I thought for a second he was talking about Nate and the Dallas guy, but this is clearly something completely different
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome!
I’m not sure I do know what he’s referring to, actually, but I’m sure someone does.
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or he made it up…though Kelley seems like a fine journalist…
you could tell he was dying to pile on to the olympics thing with his 3rd point and he finally found a way to tie it all together.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
FYI, Kelley is the guy whose shirt Dominik Hasek ripped in the ‘97 playoffs, resulting in a 3-game suspension, a $10,000 fine. The reason? Kelley wrote some piece detailing the feud between Ted Nolan and Hasek, called Hasek’s mental toughness into question, and implied that Hasek was faking an injury.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
wait, WHAT?!?!
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add that to the list of reasons why Hasek is one BAMF. Usually, I don’t approve of athlete-on-writer violence, but I’ve got Dominator’s back on this one.
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Via Twitter, Nate calls Kelley’s claim about the Caps PR staffer total BS. I smell steel cage death match.
I’d rather stick up for our players’ reputation, but I’ll say this: the PR “tirade” that Jim Kelley accuses us of is a fabrication
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by kellobellow on Mar 19, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Welcome in my friend.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 7:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I just read the Kelley article. He has such a holier than thou attitude. He is basically done with his argument and chooses to write an “I told you so” couple of paragraphs about the Caps. It is just so unnecessary to his primary argument. It’s extraneous.
He could have written about the comments from Wisniewski or Randy Carlyle from the other night (Wisniewski was our best player out there), but he continues to come back at the Caps.
Realistically, when you have the best player on the planet, why wouldn’t a coach and an owner encourage him. Would Kelley, if he was the coach, rein Ovechkin in? It’s not a realistic option. You can cut Matt Cooke for being a jerk. Who would pick him up? You can’t cut Ovechkin nor can you expect anyone to try to control him.
(Phew. I feel better now.)
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Completely agree with the holier than thou attitude. He reeks of it. And as someone said above, you know he was just waiting to use the Ovi with a camera incident..
And I agree, did anyone on the Ducks come out against Wisniewski? Oh, wait, he’s not a star.
There is a Fanshot on this where one poster gives an answer to your question:
http://www.japersrink.com/2010/3/18/1379946/jim-kelley-on-ovi
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Not that there was anything about this in the clips today, but I’m not getting all the BMo hate around here lately. Well, not hate exactly, but certainly dissatisfaction.
If I remember correctly, when we brought him in on the cheap, he was coming off of two injury seasons. His numbers hadn’t been good during that time. This year, he has bested his numbers in those two years combined, so that is good. At times, he has looked really good out there, and other times, he hasn’t really looked bad, it just looked like things weren’t clicking.
Since the Olympic break, he has looked very good again. Even ignoring that insane game for him in Florida, the jump has been back in his step and he has been getting and creating good scoring chances.
So why aren’t we happy with him at 2C? Part of his success this year has been that he always looks better with better talent on his wings, so why are we wanting to put him with lesser talent out of the top two lines?
For what it is worth, his numbers for 2C match very comparatively around the league (at least from what I could see from a look the other night at 3am when my son wasn’t sleeping). The only 2C’s I immediately saw that he didn’t match up well with was a guy like Malkin, where C is where the entire offense comes from in Pittsburgh.
From what I remember, we all thought that when we acquired Belanger, it was a depth pickup, to keep Steckel on line 4 and to help the PK. While I like what Belanger has brought since he has been here, what has he done that has earned him the 2C role? Its not like he is putting up all star numbers.
I really wanted to do a fanpost on this, but Student Teaching, son with autism, new son weeks ago, I will probably find time for research in December. Looking forward to hearing thoughts on this.
by HateOffSeason on Mar 19, 2010 7:52 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
No worries, and belated congrats on your son.
I’m a BMo fan and I don’t mind him at 2C, but there are a couple of intangibles that give me pause; first was one of the reasons he came here additionally was to help show everyone that he was injury-free and still a viable asset to an NHL team’s roster. Second is how happy he is here. I’m not sure what the preference is for him at this point, but he mentioned turning out richer offers to come here when he signed. If he’s not happy, I think he’s just as likely to go as ShaMo is, but BMo would at least go on his own accord, versus the team likely not wanting ShaMo back.
Don’t get me wrong, if all things were equal, I think at this point I’d want to keep BMo, despite his age, but I’m not sure how much he’d want to stay, not to mention the money.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions
More on this very topic coming soon…
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Coming back to this at the end of the day — this was a nice appetizer for the other discussion. A well-thought out post. And I’m with you — perhaps the expectations on Morrison were (and still are) too high.
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 20, 2010 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel the same way—blech! He has a thing about the entire organization—what’s up!
by capsyoungguns on Mar 19, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
He’s a Buffalo guy?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…..
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure, but there’s no need to read a writer who doesn’t understand that
Of course, this was all going on just hours before the Ducks and the Blackhawks had at each other with the kind of carnage one usually reserves for Aliens vs. Predators. Old time hockey complete with a game-ending brawl
is incompatible with this:
an ever escalating pattern of senseless violence
The NHL is far less violent now then it’s ever been, despite the current flurry of bad hits and media attention.
Old time hockey? That phrase as a certain romanticism about it, wistful nostalgia, even. What, exactly, from the Hawks-Ducks game would anyone want to bring back? Seabrooks dirty hti on perry? Wisnewski’s quad whammy on Seabrook? oh, yeah, that’s some quality old time hockey right there!
RPI, I realize you’re just quoting from elsewhere, so my beef is with that writer, not you.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:33 AM EDT reply actions
My original tweet:
@nateewell Apparently the Caps PR staff has a big fan in SI’s Jim Kelley http://tinyurl.com/yhoh5bw Can I be in on your next “tirade”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Chimera, Alexandrian
That little nugget might have cemented my next jersey purchase.
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Is it just me or is there a broad side of a barn that looms beyond the net on Chimera’s breakaways/open nets lately?
by S h a g g y on Mar 19, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s real hard to shoot accurately when you’re going 100 MPH, I guess.
Last night, it looked like he was trying to get away from over-dekeing, which has been his problem on breakaways lately. He’ll probably score 10 goals next game.
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Along with Bradley and Steckel, IIRC, and I’m not sure who else. I’m surprised I don’t run into these guys every so often. I eat out in Old Town at least once a week.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 19, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
When we had that poll a couple of weeks ago about who we should root for the Caps to play in the first round, I picked the Canadiens because I was afraid of the Bruins potential to ramp it up (compared to the other two teams, who I don’t think have a very high ceiling) and that behind solid D and goaltending and Chara stepping up and the Bruins being physical that they would be a tough out and at least pound the Caps for 6 games and soften them up for later opponents.
I’d like to change my vote. The Bruins are the 2008 Senators and the 2009 Canadiens. They would lose a series in 3 games if it was possible. If the Caps get up 2-0 in the series, and 1-0 in game 3, the fans will turn on them and Claude will start passing a phone down the bench so that players can start making tee times.
Anyone else interested in what it would be like to face the Flyers again?
See, the Bruins couldn’t score unless we let them, but I’m worried we might let them. Then the issue becomes who would you rather face in goal, a tandem of Rask/Thomas, or a tandem of [s]Emery/Leighton[/s] Boucher/Backlund(?)…
Personally I’d like Pitt to get that option. The hatred oozes up into slugfests when they play each other. I’d expect Pitt to win the series but not after getting a good wuppin’.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Yup. He’s actually from Brentwood, Tennessee, and is considered the 2nd or 3rd best forward prospect in our system.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
It baffles me that guys are coming out of Tennessee and Texas, but we rarely hear about guys coming from DCMDVA.
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Texas has had two NHLers. Tennesee has had none.
DC/MD/VA have had nine, and maybe ten soon enough – Silver Spring, MD-born Jeremy Duchesne (yes, son of Gator) has been recalled by the Flyers.
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I did see that last night. hm.
Well, New Jersey has been pumping out NHLers like crazy, rite?
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For some reason I thought Carlson was from NJ as well.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Born in Mass. Grew up in Jersey
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Love it. It seems like they should somehow acknowledge the difference between place of birth and actual home town, based on where they actually grew up.
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What’s the cutoff? I was born in Baltimore and lived there for 4 years, but then I moved to Anne Arundel for 7 or so. Where am I from!?
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Baltimore. AAC counts as Bmore area.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Such was my thinking. Though Odenton/Piney Orchard is like in the badlands right in the middle of Annapolis, Baltimore, and DC.
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I kinda go with Bowie and PG in general as the cutoff for the “DC Area”. I grew up in Greenbelt, so I consider myself a DC guy.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Wherever you’re from, talk about it here.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jeremy Roenick was born in Fairfax and then his family move to Massachusetts, yet I never hear him say he’s a native Virgnian. I think we should get some credit for him.
Played for the Little Caps, too.
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Now that you mention it, didn’t I read a reference to it during the Olympics?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
According to SI his family lived in Fairfax for a little while when he was middle-school aged. Everything I’ve seen about him says he was born in Boston.
As one who was in said middle-screwl with him in Fairfax, I can attest.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
If I recall, his dad worked for Mobil and he requested the transfer to the Boston area so Jeremy could move to the next level in hockey.
Yeah, he was doing quite a bit of weekend shuffling before he got to Thayer, if memory serves.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 19, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Gotcha. I remember when he was drafted they said he was coming out of NJ.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 19, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Silver Spring, MD-born Jeremy Duchesne (yes, son of Gator)
How did GMGM let a legacy slip out of our system?
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 19, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
just wanted to note that if you didn’t see the CSN broadcast last night, Locker made sure Jeremy Duchesne got a little love and said that he’s sure his father is looking down on him and is very proud.
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Let me see if I've got this straight...
According to the TSN.ca experts, they Penguins are a Cup favorite because they won last year and they’ve got guys like Crosby, Malkin, et al.
The Caps, however, are not Cup favorites, presumably because of their defensive deficiencies.
Pens Goals Against/Game: 2.79
Caps Goals Against/Game: 2.79
(FWIW, Nashville, with their stable of stud defensemen, also gives up 2.79 Goals/Game.)
Watching NHLOTF this morning, I got to listen to Kevin Weekes (whose commentary I otherwise enjoy) tell me that the Caps can’t play D because they had three defensive breakdowns in a game. Three. One of those breakdowns resulted in a goal that never should have gone in – the long slapper that just ate Varly up. Otherwise, we gave up a 5-3 goal.
I’m not saying that the Caps are perfect defensively, far from it. They need to tighten up a bit come playoff time. In all my time watching, playing and coaching hockey I’ve learned a few things, and one of them is that you can teach or coach a team to play better defense, but you can’t teach or coach offensive ability. It’s either there or it isn’t.
More to the point, I have confidence that the Caps, in theory, will be able to tighten up defensively, whereas I doubt the ability of teams like NJ or Pitt to suddenly “turn on” the goal-scoring spigot.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 19, 2010 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Caps give up 2.79. Pittsburgh gives up 2.83.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Caps are also top 5 in the league in Faceoffs at 51.7%. Pittsburgh is 22d at 49%.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
When someone wants to nitpick the Caps, they pick on defense and goaltending. I
t’s becoming a popular refrain:
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“The Washington Capitals don’t have the defense or the goaltending to win the Stanley Cup.”
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well until the Caps actually win the Stanley Cup…I guess they don’t. If the Caps lose in the playoffs it will most certainly be because our defense/goal tending wasn’t good enough
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Yeah, all the “Pens have to be favorites, they won last year” people are forgetting how often teams have won back-to-back championships in this league. Not bloody often.
You had me at no problem.
Nevertheless, I never count out the reigning champion until they’re no-longer there. And quite frankly, I’d rather see just about every other team in the East before the Penguins come April/May.
Strangely enough, I hope we do face the Pens. There’s the old “If you want to be the best, you’ve got to beat the best” axiom and as reigning champs, the Pens still qualify as the best. More to the point, I think Alex and the team have to get past this Pittsburgh hex that seems to always follow the Caps. And if the Caps win the Cup but don’t play the Penguins, you know there will always be those who will say they did it because they didn’t have to play Pittsburgh. This team is good enough to beat anyone. They shouldn’t have to worry who they play.
Not strange at all. I’m hoping for the same.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 19, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Understandable, but I feel the opposite way. And if the Caps win the Cup but don’t play the Penguins, I’ll focus on the fact that the Caps won the Cup. It’s a stair-step of goals; removing the Pittsburgh curse can come later.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 19, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather get rid of the “can’t beat Pittsburgh in the playoffs” thing at the same time if possible. 2 for the price of 1. Plus, I always like a team beating the defending champs on their way to a title.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Isn’t the logic that “The Penguins won it last year, therefore they are favorites this year” a little flawed since, you know, they were a different team last year? All of the numbers suggest that the Caps are a better team. Malkin is worse this year. Gonchar is worse this year. Losing Scuderi has really hurt and even losing Gill has hurt. The Capitals, OTOH, are markedly better.
I can buy the idea that the Caps aren’t favorites, but I need more evidence than “some other team won it last year.”
I think there’s some truth to “they won it, they know how to win in the playoffs” – they’ve been to the Finals twice in a row – whereas these Caps (admittedly that’s a loose “these”) have won on playoff series ever.
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That is a totally different issue. I completely agree with you on the fact that they are a different team. However, they are still the defending champs. It helps from a psyche standpoint in my mind, plus it gets rid of some of the lame arguments that come up if you somehow get through without facing them.
Not re-signing Scuderi was a huge mistake. Their defense is terrible. McKee has been worthless. Caps are certainly the better team. However, the Pens have now been to two Finals in a row. While I don’t fear them, I certainly respect them.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 19, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve said this before, so I apologize for repeating myself, but the things the Pens do well are particularly valuable in a playoff series. Their ability to forecheck, possess the puck, and pile up shots has a cumulative fatiguing effect over the course of several games against the same team.
For that reason, I think they’re more difficult to beat 4 times than they are to beat once. It’s not by coincidence that they were down 0-2 to both the Caps and the Wings, and stormed back to win those series.
The Caps have not shown the ability to put the clamps to a team like that. In fact, to the contrary, their playoff performances have been a bit underwhelming that last two years.
Now, it’s an open question whether the Pens’ strong points are enough to overcome their larger weaknesses this year, of course.
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Their forecheck is precisely why I respect them. However, their defense is so much worse this season than it was last season after Bylsma took over. Any team they play will get a ton of scoring chances unless they rectify things in the last few weeks of the season.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Me, too. If Pittsburgh gets eliminated in the playoffs this year (and does not make the SC Finals), I will go watch a game of the team who dumps them at their arena. And root for them.
Yes, I’ve been a Caps fan so long, I’ll root for any other team against the Pens.
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not since the 97-98 red Wings, in fact. And that was a juggernaut of a team, the likes of which will probably never be seen again.
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And you know who was (kinda) apart of both of those teams? Our very own Mike Knuble. I hope Grandpa Slippers can use his time with those Wings teams to help out our boys.
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YES! you know Knuble would love to cap off his career with another Cup or two.
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I’d be willing to bet that is 100% true and one of the (many) reasons he chose to sign with Washington. He basically said that at the Q&A he did here in Baltimore. He wants to win a Cup. He said he was apart of those Cup teams, but he didn’t feel like it was his Cup…it was the other guys. He wasn’t a regular in the lineup, so he didn’t feel as connected, I guess. He said he wanted a Cup of his own. One he knew he put in a lot of effort to win, and he felt he could acheive that here in DC.
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We’ve given up fifty PP goals, whereas the Pens have only given up 38. Not sure how it would effect the numbers, but our 29th ranked PK does not help the D-numbers at all.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus, those 13 (!) goals given up 4 on 4 are insane. 13!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
facepalm
It baffles me. Our penalty kill coach absolutely blows, for one thing, but guys this good shouldn’t be like swiss cheese. We have begun to tighten up, though- only 4 GA in last 4 games.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Best 5-on-5 ratio (1.57 GF/1.00 GA)…one of, if not the worst 4-on-4 ratio (0.38 GF/1.00 GA)
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Best 5-on-5 ratio (1.57 GF/1.00 GA)
Thats more like it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
You know what? Let the media lemmings jump off the cliff with the Penguins Stanley Cup bandwaggon. The logic that they won it last year, therefore they should win it this year is shitty journalism and lazy analysis. The Penguins were a different team then. Losing Scuderi has hurt. Malkin and Gonchar have regressed. Even losing Hal Gill hurt.
I’m not saying everyone has to pick the Caps, or that you can’t pick the Pens. But give me more than “they won it a year ago” as your only evidence.
Well, it’s not like they’re in 8th place, struggling to get into the playoffs. They’re in first place in their division, has the same core of players that took them to the finals the past two seasons, and has a goalie that has shown the ability to show up when it counts.
I don’t think they’re the favorites in the East, but I also wouldn’t be surprised that they do it again (or if the Caps somehow lose in the first round). Shit happens.
Can someone explain to me what makes the Penguins defense so great? Let’s run down the list: Gonchar, Goligoski, Leopold, Letang, Orpik, McKee/Eaton. In my eyes, Orpik is the only one who plays a true shut down game. McKee maybe 3-4 years ago, but even Orpik doesn’t fall into the category of true shut down defenseman. Fleury is obviously the wild card. He has the knack of showing up in the playoffs like Osgood did in the past.
Also, I know it’s just the regular season and all, and last year the Caps were 3-1 against the Pens in the regular season, but if I were Pitt, I would truly be concerned about losing every game this year to New Jersey. You would think they would find a way to win one of those games. There were several defensive lapses that broke the game open for NJ. If anything, I think the Capitals team D is trending up, whereas Pitt’s is moving down.
by JimCareyFanClub on Mar 19, 2010 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
What made them a formidable defense in last year’s playoffs was that everyone bought into playing 200 feet of ice. They outworked the Flyers, forechecked the Caps into the ground, ran the Hurricanes silly, and made the Red Wings look old. If the Caps don’t do that, they likely aren’t going to the Finals.
But the Penguins will miss Rob Scuderi this time around. Jordan Leopold is not him.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 19, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
And I guess that’s the point I’m trying to make. Even Hal Gill provided a tough, physical presence on the back end. With the loss of those two players, the Penguins aren’t the same team as last year, so these arguments of having great defense and goaltending only seem about half correct to me. Last time I checked, the Caps’ “suspect D” has allowed the same amount of goals this season as the Pens’ “dominant D.” Just saying.
by JimCareyFanClub on Mar 19, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
And note: the forechecking was pretty impressive last night. BOS only got 17 SOG all night.
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With all due respect, it’s just Boston.
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Boston averages 31 shots per game (10th), according to nhl.com. But what I don’t know is if that’s total shots, or shots on goal.
conversely, their gpg is the worst in the NHL, so what shots they do get aren’t good quality.
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At this point, I don’t know if you can use Boston’s averages for anything. They’ve had guys in and out all year with injuries, and the Savard injury is totally devastating at this point of the season.
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I do notice that the Penguins always manage to outshoot their opponents by a pretty good margin, even in defeat. A lot is credited due to their forecheck, which I believe was a big part in defeating the Caps in the playoffs last year. Boston is pretty weak offensively, and lack an elite puck mover like Green from the back end.
by JimCareyFanClub on Mar 19, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Boston - Pitt Game last night
Was that the gayest thing ever, or what?
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how so?
Boston sucking?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Boston following up all the tough talk by laying down like a two-dollar whore.
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who would you keep from this team?
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by ns on Mar 19, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Rask, Bergeron, Wheeler, Lucic, and Krejci.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Not after his contract us up, but I’m in the minority.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
No love for Bergeron? He’s been their best offensive player this year, and their second best defensive player after Chara.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Rask, Bergeron, Wheeler, Lucic, and Krejci.
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Shit. Its early.
/facepalm
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks JDC
Speaking of shit, the rest of their team after those guys is a pile of it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I lol’d and agree.
Krejci or Bergeron sure would solve our 2C problem..
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Bergeron would solve everyone but Pittsburgh and Vancouver’s 2C problem. He’s, Olympics notwithstanding, damn good. Laich-Bergeron-Semin??
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Or that Plekanec guy that’s a FA this year.
Don’t think we can afford him though.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I assume you saw his negotiations have been “postponed”, aka stalled.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Plekanec is also a punk.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 19, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
huh?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
how so?
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by bigonetimer on Mar 19, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, too pricey. And douchey.
Laich-Bergeron-Semin makes me want to go play NHL 10.
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That’s a fantasy-draft 2nd line. He IS a UFA after 11. Will be…mid 20s?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw you just hate his awesome turtleneck!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Aw you just hate hisawesomeweird and unnecessary turtleneck!
FTFY
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
.
Haters gonna hate
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re not short and Czech, are you?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
he’d be an ideal 2C for us: can play the 1C if needed, or the (traditional) 3C role. He PK’s, he scores. Dangerous, pain in the ass player to defend. Count me in.
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by bigonetimer on Mar 19, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Count me out.
He’s going to make $5M a year or more. I doubt we can afford that unless the cap goes way up.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
Yeah, he’s not going to go cheap.
/looks up 2010 UFA centers
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
hmm
Not a good crop.
Modano, Marleau, O. Jokinen, Demitra, Madden, S. Koivu, Plekanec, Matt Cullen, Matt Lombardi, Robert Lang.
Thats the list of centers I’d even glance at. I’d only sign three of those guys, so its kinda bare.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 19, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Modano-old, Marleau-money, Jokinen-sucks/money, Demitra-fragile, Madden-grinder, Koivu-interesting, Pleks-money, Cullen-same as Belanger/O-Mo, Lombardi-I like, Lang-old
I’d look at two of them.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Marleau-contract year performance. Someone’s gonna overpay for him to regress.
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He’s also helped by the fact he’s playing with Jumbo Joe and Dany Heatley
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Ron and Fez 11 to 3
by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 19, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
When I typed “Money,” I meant he’s too expensive, not that the player is money.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Ah, right. Sorry. Then we are of one mind on this issue.
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