Thursday Caps Clips: Caps @ Hurricanes Game Day
by J.P. on Mar 18, 2010 6:43 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Previews of tonight's game against Carolina from Vogs, Peerless, CSN Washington and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Canes Country for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- To refresh your memory, this is the fifth meeting of the season between the Caps and 'Canes, with the Caps taking three of the first four (by 4-3, 4-3 and 3-2 counts against a 6-3 loss).
- Notes from yesterday's practice in Raleigh (basically, Boyd Gordon was sent back to D.C. with a bad back, Semyon Varlamov is tonight's likely starter, and Bruce Boudreau talks Ovi). [CI, CI, CI]
- Brooks Laich continues to win at life. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- We all know that Brendan Morrison has had his ups and downs this year, but has he ever been the subject of such a cheesily-titled article? [WaPo]
- The Caps have two of the top three lines in hockey. OK, fine, they have the second-best line in hockey and two different right-wings they can play in on it (though not at the same time). [TSN]
- Word's getting out on Nicklas Backstrom. [THN, Corey Masisak (just in case you missed it yesterday)]
- Yes, Alex Ovechkin boarded Brian Campbell four days ago. Yes, Alex Ovechkin was suspended for that hit three days ago (Colin Campbell, by the way, discussed his rationale for the suspension yesterday). And yet, thoughts on the incident and the superstar keep rolling in as people take the time to rehash what has been said and/or come up with something more outrageously dumb than what was out there. [Sportsnet (ridiculous), Versus (absurd), SB Nation (silly), SB Nation (reasonable?), and a poll!]
- On the Caps sans Ovi. [RtR]
- Next up on the list of season goals: the President's Trophy, which is the Caps' to lose. [RMNB]
- On the Caps' dogged determination. [FFODC]
- Marvel at this: "Mike Green is the 7th d-man with consecutive 70-pt seasons before turning 25. The other six are in the Hockey Hall of Fame." [@washcaps]
- Caps/Hawks drew "meh" ratings. [Puck the Media]
- Mmm... beer. [Puck Daddy]
- If you're not a stat geek like some of us on the site but want to be or just want a real good introduction to some basics, here's a great primer for you. [Scarlet Caps]
- We're up over $1,000 in donations pledged for "Saves for Kids," and it's never too late to join in the giving. [FanPost]
- Some killer Caps cards. [Strange But True]
- Anton Gustafsson and Garrett Mitchell are en route to Hershey... [Patriot-News]
- ... where they clinched their Division last night (what took you guys so long?), tied a single-season franchise mark for wins, and now have their sights set on the best AHL season ever. [Patriot-News]
- Per the HHoF, on this date back in 1989, "Dino Ciccarelli scored four goals and added three assists to set a Washington club record with seven points, in an 8-2 Capitals' win over the Whalers at Harford. It was the 15th hat trick of Ciccarelli's NHL career and his first with Washington." Love me some Dino.
- Finally, bunch o' birthdays today, with Jonas Johansson turning 26, Jan Bulis turning 32, Brantt Myhres turning 36 and Craig Johnson turning 38.
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I don’t get how Campbell still has a job. In any other business, someone with such an unblemished record of incompetence would have been kicked to the curb a long time ago. What do people see in him? He clearly has no idea what he’s doing.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 6:47 AM EDT reply actions
The conflict of interest alone in having your son play in a league that you are supposed to be policing should have forced him to step down.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
by snowburnt on Mar 18, 2010 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That is moronic. Campbell should step down for about 1,000 different reasons. The fact that his son plays for the Panthers is not one of them.
Yea it is.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think there are ways around the appearance of a conflict of interest. If he plays it right, it can actually work in his favor – making people believe ethat he genuinely cares about the players’ safety because his son is one of them.
I’m beginning to think a committee might be a better way to go, though.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
My problem is Campbell hasn’t recused himself when he should have. For example, Ovechkin missed the recent game against the Panthers, who are still technically in the running for a playoff spot. That’s problematic.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 18, 2010 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not that it did them one lick of good the other times they missed Ovechkin.
I agree with you, though. He probably should have recused himself in this case. The question is, where does it stop? So many questions regarding unrelated teams could still affect the Florida Panthers. Hell, for all we know, Colie could be suspending a Panther’s hookup for some sweet golf clubs and a means to get them in early April.
It’s a perception problem, and one not easily solved. The NHL is too open to these questions, though.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Committee composed of who? Execs/Owners/Retired players?
The fact is, the players safety is of paramount concern to the NHL as a whole, Campbell’s kid doesn’t add or detract from that in the least. I honestly don’t believe that Campbell thinks about the impact to his son or the team when he’ making decisions, but it is amazing to me that the NHL is willing to open itself to these questions.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
I agree – is there an actual conflict, probably not? You’d like to think that Campbell is objective when looking at things.
But, for me, its the fact the the NHL acknowledges that at least the appearance of a conflict exists by Cambell taking himself out of decisions to be made on games that FLA plays in. It just seems a little shortsighted to ignore the fact that the greater impact would be on games following the decision on suspensions which they ignore.
But I am coming from an industry that requires disclosure of conflicts of interest in fact and appearance.
If he can’t objectively look at one team, he shouldn’t be doing it for the league. I agree that there probably isn’t a conflict, but appearances matter and it isn’t a good one. The only decision someone should take himself out of is if his son specifically hits or is hit.
by kman8924 on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And he doesn’t rule on anything dealing with the Panthers. So he wasn’t even the one who let Richards off scott free.
So there’s a question. How could anyone in the office not be impacted by the fact Campbell’s son plays for the Panthers? They work with him everyday. What if it had been his kid, rather than Booth on the other end of that hit? Even recusing himself doesn’t relieve the office from being biased.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
by Sct112 on Mar 18, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just don’t see this as such a problem. Hell, Bud Selig — WHO OWNS THE FUCKING BREWERS — is the commissioner of MLB. (I realize he doesn’t own them now — his daughter does.) If that’s not the biggest conflict of interest in sports, I don’t know what is.
Yet when a Cubs or Cardinals or Pirates (okay, that’s a joke) player is suspended, is there an uproar?
MLB is monitored by Congress, though, because of its antitrust exemption — does that counteract the conflict? If hockey were monitored by some quasigovernmental binational body, could that solve some of the problems we see?
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Very doubtful. As RCheli noted, Congress just doesn’t care enough so it would be dominated by the Canadian Goverment and Canadian mindset.
And quite frankly I happen to think that the Canadian mindset is half the problem here to begin with.
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MLB is monitored by Congress, though, because of its antitrust exemption
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Selig’s connection to the Brewers caused an uproar back when there was talk of contraction, because he was targeting Minnesota.
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But does the NHL want to move in the direction of being run more like MLB, or less like MLB? I’d say the latter. Everything the NHL does that you can say “well MLB does that too” is probably the wrong thing to do.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No one on the committee should have said conflicts of interest either. If I had a conflict of interest as big as Campbell has in my profession I could go to jail.
It’s entirely unethical that he has the position he does while his son is in the league regardless of his inconsistencies and perceived incompetence.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
by snowburnt on Mar 18, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup. The NHL is trying so hard to play with the big boys and move away from its small town Canada roots, but allows one of its most visible processes, one that is inherently ugly and controversial, be run by a guy who has a conflict of interest.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
They fallacy of the whole “this conflict wouldn’t happen in my job” is that it’s NOT a corporation, government entity or traditional business. The fact of the matter is that it occurs in a lot of self-governing sports groups, be it the IOC, FIFA or what have you, and until there’s a forward-thinking person that’s willing to make the enterprise better, it’s going to remain what it is.
I said before and will say again, the commissioner has had two work stoppages on his watch, the PA is dysfunctional beyond any reasonable estimation (OT: Don Fehr would be GREAT for them), and moving up the headshot rule, right or wrong, is likely to be seen as a league win. Barring a PR nightmare for the league, I’d be surprised if he’s went anywhere anytime soon.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It is a business though, if he’s recusing himself from judgments involving his son it is still a bad position for him to be in and it (would theoretically) creates (more, as if there isn’t enough already) inconsistency in rulings.
I know it’s not illegal, but it’s sure as hell unethical.
Speaking of PR nightmare, in the wake of all these brutal hits the mainstream media is solidly focused on March Madness. If a PR nightmare did come to pass (ref collusion scandal, doping, something of this like) it would hurt the league universally and I’d wonder if they’d recover.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
by snowburnt on Mar 18, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Its a bad conflict. I always wondered how the owners put up with it. In any event, Campbell won’t be replaced until the owners want him replaced. I would suspect there are a majority of owners who want him out of that role at this time, and he will not be back next year.
As for the commissioner’s record, I agree that it is poor. But a dysfunctional PA is not a negative on his record, in fact it is a great positive and has probably saved the owners a bundle. He has done a great job at keeping rookie salaries down and controlled.
I don’t disagree that the perception is bad, but he was hired on, by the league, and has been doing this for awhile, including the last six (I think) seasons, being vouched for by officials by both the league and by several teams (hell, McPhee praised his work in the role as recently during the Gleason incident), all while Greg takes up a roster spot.
To the PA point, considering how the league is being operated, both by its management and by those who are protecting the players, common sense doesn’t exist in that realm (a little overreaching, but I gave it a shot).
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Fuck Don Fehr. NHLPA #needsmoreFehrandBalanced.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now THIS I can get behind.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hate to bring this up...
but I can’t believe that Campbell said that if there had been no injury on OV’s hit, he probably wouldn’t have been suspended. WTF?!? What about Cooke??? What about all these other injury-causing hits?
Those were “legal hits”. Basically, Campbell’s logic (which I obviously find flawed) is that if it’s both a) an illegal hit and b) results in an injury, there’s a suspension. In Campbell’s view (which I also disagree with), Cooke on Savard didn’t meet criteria a.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Richards get 5 and a game for his hit on Booth? Pretty sure the call was interference. Reasonably sure he did, because it won me the PIM category against F&B.
Isn’t that then an illegal hit that caused a massive injury? Yet no league action. That’s the part that frustrates me most: along the same line of reasoning, Richards should have had at least a game to contemplate his sins. Instead, nothing.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 2:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Campbell pretty clearly doesn’t care whether the on-ice call was correct or not when determining supplemental punishment.
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Yeah he got 5 and a game but I think the league ended up saying he didn’t deserve it in addition to not suspending him. There’s the precedent for Cooke.
And that two week span of the season is what buried me in the JRHL. You smoked me then laid down like a French whore for 2PA. I never regained that ground. You dick.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Smoked? Smoked?! That ended as a 5-5 tie!
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
But I’m getting OT here.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Compared to my season record 5-5 is smoked! And I could have sworn that you beat me more than 5-5. MAF must have had a good week.
(This is hockey related, so is it really OT? And if you’d still do the recaps we could have done it there…)
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, we’ll see what happens to Wisniewski. I get the impression that the Wheel of Justice is spun by the media more than anything else and the chatterati control the outcome.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Holy cow…I just saw the Wisniewski hit.
Seabrook went down like a video game character.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions
And again, its a consequence of these new rules. Wisniewski had him lined up all the way from the blue line in
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes of course. Because under the old rules in the “good old days” we never ever saw these kinds of cheap shots being dealt out…
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Its not a “good old days” thing, but when you could hold guys up at the blue line, it was pretty impossible to just charge in from 60 feet away and blast a guy.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions
This wasn’t one of those plays. There was nobody between Wisniewski and Seabrook; it’s not as though Wis was an onrushing forechecker aimed straight for Seabrook and Keith couldn’t obstruct him with the stick… Different situation entirely.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly. The Ducks had already sustained pressure in the zone, so the whole holding up forecheckers argument doesn’t hold. Even at the height of clutch and grab hockey, if a Dman wanted to take a run at a guy in the corner the way Wisniewski did, they easily could.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 18, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously. That was disgusting. He was out before he hit the ice. And Wisniewski got two minutes for charging for that. Seeing it in slo-mo, I think 7 and a game would have been more appropriate (boarding major + 2 for charging)
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Mckenzie was pretty dead on with his tweet:
Wisniewski’s hit on Seabrook may be the Grand Slam: Charging, Interference, Boarding and pre-meditated malice (payback for a hit on Perry)
The beat writer for the Trib quotes Randy Carlyle:
Ducks coach Randy Carlyle: “(Wisniewski) was probably the first star in our mind … It was probably the best game he’s played as a Duck.”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Did you hear the Ducks color guy implying that Seabrook was “selling it”? These hits are obviously awful, but the general reactions to them from announcers and pundits can be pretty terrible as well.
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Yeah that was Hayward. I read he apologized later for it.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
From PD:
(We joke about the stupid things announcers say around the League, but Ducks color-man and former NHLer Brian Hayward asking aloud if Seabrook was “selling it” is top five in the dumbest things said category. I’ve seen Ric Flair sell a hit and Seabrook is no Ric Flair. Hayward did apologize for the comment later.)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Good for him for apologizing for it, I suppose.
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I watched the live feed and he seemed genuine with his apology, which came as soon as word surfaced that Seabrook was out of the game.
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by bigonetimer on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
He also didn’t sound convinced that Seabrook was selling it. I know it’s a fine line, and you called out a journalist for making a point in question form yesterday, but when I watched I only thought Hayward was thinking out loud, not really accusing. People said the same thing of Campbell and Dorsett. I guess it’s just the nature of the beast. Good on Hayward for at least having the stones to admit he was wrong.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The whole thing did look a little dramatic the way he got hit and then stood there before going over like a tree. It obviously wasn’t though and Hayward should bite his tongue until he sees a replay at least (where, after viewing, he started slowly trying to redact the selling it statement)
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Ducks coach Randy Carlyle: "(Wisniewski) was probably the first star in our mind …
Might be true in a perverse sense. It’s physically difficult to deliver both elbows to a moving target. Wisniewski manage the feat.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ve always thought Carlyle is a bit of a dick.
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I’m glad our coach and players aren’t the type to make a comment like that.
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Well I would expect nothing less than that from Carlyle. He runs a dirty show out in ANA. They’re quickly become my third most hated team after Philly and Pitt.
Broke my heart when Lucky Lubo got traded there.
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Anaheim is my Western team, for a couple of reasons that seemed honorable enough at the time of the expansion. I’m considering a divorce.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Big Emilio Estevez fan?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Mar 18, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but I was working for Disney then, and Guy Hebert went to the same college as me.
I probably should have quit on the team when Disney did, but then they went and won that big silver thing…
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. I’m shocked anyone from Hamilton made the NHL. Were they Division I back in the day or was he on the Keith Aucoin career path?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Never been DI as far as I know. Guy is apparently the only one. (Wiki says he was drafted as a sophomore but he did graduate. He’s a little older than me, so I never knew him.)
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I can’t get that fired up to hate teams in the Western Conference. But the Ducks have certainly had enough thuggy players.
(But I was rooting against the Blue Jackets even since Nov 1, 2009 but stopped rooting against them after the Clark trade. And now Hitchcock’s been fired any how.)
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But our coach is good friends with Carlyle as well.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
@ChrisKuc
Ducks’ Wisniewski on his hit on Blackhawks’ Seabrook: “I didn’t do anything wrong.”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Ducks’ Wisniewski on his hit on Blackhawks’ Seabrook: "I didn’t do anything wrong except charging boarding and elbowing. Other than that, play on."
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
And Wisniewski got two minutes for charging for that. Seeing it in slo-mo, I think 7 and a game would have been more appropriate (boarding major + 2 for charging)
Yeah, but Seabrook got up, hence only the 2. Nicely done, on-ice officials.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe he should have sold it more…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I turned on Hockey this Morning on XM expecting the same moral outrage we got over Ovi’s hit. Shockingly, Lavigne and Rossi were remarkably restrained. Funny how that goes. Let’s see if Campbell can find some time while he’s in Boston saving the world to take a look at this hit.
I’m going to put my cynical pants on and say that Wisniewski walks.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Did anybody see Corey’s tweet about it? Pause on the video where he tells you to, and you can see that it’s also an elbow to the face. Really, really nasty hit.
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Yup. Noticed that too.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t imagine how much that would hurt. Some big dude charging in from 80 feet out, then he hits you in the face with a hard plastic elbow.. fuck
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Seabrook looks like a KO’d boxer of something. Absolutely brutal.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions
He looked like he just got the FINISH HIM prompt in Mortal Kombat
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Optical illusion. James Mirtle says these type of hits don’t happen very often in hockey. Same thing on the Pelley hit in the NJ-Pitt game.
by b.orr4 on Mar 18, 2010 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
And how exactly was the Pelley hit different from the Ovechkin hit? No, really, someone help me here.
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We’re all blind homers, so we can’t look at it correctly.
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All I can keep saying to myself to keep from going crazy over all this, is VENGEANCE. I want to beat everyone 8-1 or 9-1 now and become the NHL equivalent of the “F You” Patriots team.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Ovie is going to hang that many on the other team alone in his first game back.
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Good….
…..until people start accusing them of running up the score, which will happen ;)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Immediate response: “Yeah, we are. What of it? We’re here to make a point, and if the media is going to pick on us, it may as well be for something real.”
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I loved, at the height of the high scoring streak within the win streak, someone on OTF commented on the fact that the Caps were throwing out their 3rd and 4th liners on the PP because the score was already 5 or 6 to 1. “And they still score! The Steckel line! They’re that good!”
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How was it different? It was far more dangerous, the hit was completely from behind and the player was knocked head first into the boards. Oh, and it wasn’t Ovechkin.
by b.orr4 on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions 9 recs
Anyone have video of this hit?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Also interesting to point out that Pelley got a major, but not a game misconduct. So a boarding major doesn’t automatically come with a game misconduct.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 18, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Did the target get up?
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m dressing like you. Nice American boy, the only thing better is if he was Canadian. Right?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Although, if I may, let me take off my assistant’s skirt and put on my Barbara Streisand in The Prince of Tides ass-masking therapist pantsuit.
"Hey, atta dinnin stick a who!"
by Tikkanese on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Has anyone found a video of the hit that is not a link to YouTube?
I’m in Beijing and am caught by a double-whammy — China blocks YouTube for the whole country and my company blocks YouTube through the VPN.
Thanks. I’m dying to see Wisniewski’s hit and have been trying since this morning China time.
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They probably have the highlights of the game on NHL.com. It’ll probably be on there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll check again, but I couldn’t find the hit. Bizarrely, it’s not in the ESPN.com highlights.
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The hit occurs at 17:42 in the second period. The NHL.com highlight video skips right over it.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Doubt it. NHL highlights rarely show dirty hits.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Here you go. It’s in HD even.
"We are such fans of your music and all of your records. I'm not speaking of yours personally, but the whole genre of the rock and roll."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 8:43 AM EDT up reply actions
He can’t get Youtube.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks — but the link is You Tube. At my company I get a big red hand and some choice words.
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Damn. Sorry about that. I misread your post.
"We are such fans of your music and all of your records. I'm not speaking of yours personally, but the whole genre of the rock and roll."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s flipping 8:49pm here in Beijing — I’m working on a glass table in a corporate apartment! I’m comparing benefits we’re proposing for our China company to those in the marketplace.
Anyone want in?
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Based on what I’ve heard, I’m thinking about it. ;)
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
“Oh man, I love Orange Chicken! Why don’t we make that stuff here?”
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From now on, I’m just gonna write OT. Take it to mean that this is where the thread has derailed and everything beginning with this comment and following it are exactly the kind of thing we don’t want in Clips and/or substantive posts. Thanks.
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http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5005504
about 22 seconds in the play starts
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Wait a minute. You’ve linked to Scarlet Caps? Is the world ending?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
It’s a good article, so yes.
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by J.P. on Mar 18, 2010 7:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess I’ll have to stop complaining about the site, then. At least for now.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Any site that gives us this those sweet glamour shots of Jeff Schultz is money in the bank.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 7:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If articles like that indicate a shift in content, then I’m all for giving them a second chance.
I have a C on my heart.
I will agree with that. By the way, I’ve noticed that the promotional schedule says April 1 against Atlanta is Scarlet Caps night (nice choice of date). dinasaur and I were having a chat yesterday as to what we expect them to do that night, and how we expect to be disappointed.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Brooks Laich in bubbles promo calendar night?
last time, I think Scarlet Caps night was nothing more than a game ticket and pre-game drinks at Clyde’s.
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The first SBN article (the one calling AO dirty) is laughable in its assertion that he has a rap sheet similar to Marchment, and insanely ridiculous with its comparison to Cooke.
The comparisons to Messier, Howe, Richard et al. aren’t that ridiculous, hell I’ve made them myself. But if a writer thinks Cooke’s and AO’s rap sheets are comparable, well s/he just loses all credibility in my eyes.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 6:56 AM EDT reply actions
I dunno. Besides the obvious that you point out, throwing out phrases like “he had no quarter for the opponent and often showed it by using his stick to carve their face like a sunday roast,” “sent many players to the locker room with high, dirty elbows to the head,” and “he took cheap shots at people with his stick, his skates, his elbows and his fists,” before concluding that this is the company Alex keeps is ridiculous, IMO. And somehow divining that AO plays with “an intent to injure” is wholly absurd.
On a somewhat related note, I’d love to stop talking about this. I’d love to stop linking to discussions of it. But I do think that it’s important to document what’s being written so that it might be responded to or just absorbed.
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I’m not saying he’s on par with Howe. Hell, Howe did things that would make even Matt Cooke blush. Maybe I’m just more receptive to comparisons to Messier/Howe etc because of the similarity in talent level and importance to teams, whereas Cooke is not even in throwing distance of their ability.
Even if I did consider Ovechkin to be dirty (as an aside, I completely agree with Travis’ article), I wouldn’t compare him to players like Cooke, because Ovechkin brings so much more to the table than a player like Cooke.
I just know I’ve responded to people who hate AO for his dirty play with questions along the lines of “what did you think about Howe?” or “what did you think about Messier?”
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And I see a disconnect there. Howe? Messier? Those guys were dirty. There was intent there, a level of premeditation that simply doesn’t exist with Alex, as all of his questionable incidents have happened in the blink of an eye, and not one of his questionable incidents has been an elbow, or a headshot or a stick foul or a stomp.
I dunno. I see the comparisons in terms of overall physicality and intimidation/toughness, but the tactics aren’t similar at all, IMO.
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by J.P. on Mar 18, 2010 7:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That’s what I’ve been trying to get at, but for whatever reason couldn’t articulate. Thanks J.P.! He’s comparable in the toughness and skill, but not the actual style of play.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell, Mario Lemieux wasn’t beyond using the butt end of the stick to inflict punishment.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL. I just had a reading fail. I read your post as:
“Hell, Mario Lemieux wasn’t beyond using the butt to inflict punishment.”
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Crosby has that reading fail every night! ZZZING!!
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by highslot84 on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
minor nitpick, 3rd point up from the bottom, it’s “sights” not “sites”.
I’m glad there wasn’t too much stuff on the hit/suspension, I’m getting tired of reading the same arguments repeated and rephrased over and over again.
Ha. Thanks – too much time on the Internet and not enough coffee.
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What the?
Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to go back down and play Florida again, but my liver is already not talking to me.
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That’s the last time I cut and paste… for at least three minutes.
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I seem to remember this already being brought up…deja vu? But can someone explain this sentence to me?
Ovechkin has yet to get either, and now he’s getting labeled a bit as a crybaby when things don’t go his way.
Crybaby is the last word I’d use to describe Ovechkin and I can’t recall seeing it anywhere else.
and journalist is the last word I’d use to describe the person who wrote that.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
by snowburnt on Mar 18, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think it was some “journalist” who gave him that label b/c he challenged the call/suspension. I remember seeing it, just don’t remember where
Or the post-Olympic phone attack.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I think it’s self-fulfilling – Dater types it, therefore he’s labeling Alex as such, therefore he’s getting labeled as such, therefore it’s true.
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Considering Dater covered at team that employed Claude Lemieux for many years, you’d think he’d be smarter in terms of something like this.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:01 AM EDT up reply actions
any mention of Clause Lemieux makes me go “TURTLE!” which makes me go watch the video :) ah, good times!
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There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Claude’s a better player than Ovie and Sid! They suck!
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by RedBirdie on Mar 18, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bfackstrom?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Heh heh…I hope he doesn’t hold too much back…heh heh..
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Look, there are perhaps two good things that have come out of “The Ovechkin Incident” (other than another subject for a Matt Damon/Jason Bourne movie)…
1. It has moved to the next level a genuine discussion about questionable hits in the game and what to do about them.
2. It was revealed a dark underside to the way some players are covered in the media. The piling on Ovechkin over the last few days seems to be primarily a function of Canadian hockey media (although we haven’t done the content analysis of that phenomenon). It is almost as if they’ve been waiting for this moment in his career. Although we hope it doesn’t come to pass, one can only imagine the sort of invective that will accompany an Ovechkin absence due to injury. Just how many ways CAN you say, “I told you so?”
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 8:12 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
It has moved to the next level a genuine discussion about questionable hits in the game and what to do about them.
We should find out in the next 12-48 hours, maybe even sooner if this was the case. But I think you would understand why I have my doubts.
It was revealed a dark underside to the way some players are covered in the media. The piling on Ovechkin over the last few days seems to be primarily a function of Canadian hockey media (although we haven’t done the content analysis of that phenomenon). It is almost as if they’ve been waiting for this moment in his career. Although we hope it doesn’t come to pass, one can only imagine the sort of invective that will accompany an Ovechkin absence due to injury. Just how many ways CAN you say, "I told you so?"
I seem to remember a certain local commentator getting ripped seven ways from Sunday for saying something along these lines…
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and it’s not just Ovie. The pilling on of Green was over-the-top, too.
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I’m rally scratching my head over this idea that Ovechkin is a predator who targets the frail and the weak among NHL players. If one did a reasonably random sample of his “biggest hits” collection, you’d probably find players such as Colin White (no 98-pound weakling), Vitaly Vishnevsky (himself a big hitter once upon a time), Joni Pitkanen (who is no small man), Eric Staal, Dustin Brown… he’s an equal-opportunity hitter. What I think he needs to do, and what I suspect time will impart on him, is a sense of when he needs to apply that sort of hit. Sometimes, you just need to pass it up to stay in play.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
One could do a lot worse…
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by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he needs to do it his way, in his time, though. He needs to work out for himself where his line is, because his game is so unique and nobody knows how to play quite like him.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
his game is so unique
It’s definitely uniquer than the unique games of other players who have a unique game.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Better a unique game than a unique name.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he’s already started doing that this season. I feel I’ve seen smarter hits from him, or just not hitting in a situation where he would have hit in previous years.
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Yeah, that is like calling Chara a predator that only seeks the feeble. Ovi’s huge. Campbell is no MP but Alex outweighs him by 30+ right?
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
he’s listed at 6 foot, 190. So Ovie has about 3 inches and 40 pounds on the guy.
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This isn’t wrestling, where guys only wrestle guys in their own weight class. Post lockout was supposed to open up the game to little guys (not that Campbell is little). And we’re seeing more of them. Well, guess what… there are big guys who can skate, too. Big guys are going to hit little guys with predictable results, physics being what it is.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m rally scratching my head over this idea that Ovechkin is a predator who targets the frail and the weak among NHL players.
And like me, I’m sure you remember the “NHL Superstar” who did exactly that, preying on the weak and frial. But little, if anything, was ever mentioned of it.
As a matter of fact, he was lauded for being such a tough guy willing to dish out hits and score goals at the same time. And it was considered such a shame that he kept concussing himself with these thunderous hits he would throw.
But yeah, for the life of me, I can’t figure out why he was never treated like Captain A.O. has been…
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It must drive them nuts that the caps’ entire first line in any configuration this year has no Canadians in it. Two Russians, a Swede, an American and a Czech are our top line.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Erm, Knuckles is still a natural Canadian citizen.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Dual citizen, actually. Born there, grew up here, wore red white and blue when it counted.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
That is natural citizenship, isn’t it? Or am I confused?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Someone will say Knuble was born in Canada (as I’m typing this, it popped up), but I say it doesn’t count because he went to Michigan.
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It doesn’t. Internationally he plays as an American.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
His parents are American, so he is American by birth even though he was born in Canada. He has dual citizenship. He said that he moved back to the US at age 10 (or something like that) and considers himself an American.
I think that everyone born in Canada in the last 50 years has automatic citizenship unless their parents were foreign diplomats on an official mission.
Would he if he could have made any Canadian teams?
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It’s OK to dish out punishing hits, and injure the opposition (Scott Stevens, anyone?), as long as you have the self-abnegation routine down when it comes to the rest of your actions on and off the ice. That routine does not include flamboyant celebrations, smiling or referencing women, booze and fast cars during interviews. You might be able to get away with one of the above (Tiger Williams, e.g.) but not all of them.
To paraphrase H. L. Mencken, the Canadian hockey writer’s theory of the game is a haunting fear that someone might enjoy themselves playing it.
This is why I think AO is getting excoriated – he doesn’t do things the way they ought to be done.
And I do think that the Canadian media has an untoward effect on Colin Campbell’s decisions.
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
by fat_daddyo on Mar 18, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
How can you defend him after what he did to that Gill boy up the street?
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure if #2 is actually realized (if true). Has it really revealed that? Does anyone up there think they’ve gone over some line? It seems like it’s pretty much what you’ve described in the last sentence, just a bunch of self back-pats, not guilt, remorse or a bat of an eye as they typed their rants.
also: Has it really been only negative from up north? has it really been all positive (or neutral) in the states?
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Season goals
Isn’t next up on the list of season goals the Conference title? sure its almost a lock, but i would like to take these in order before worrying about the Presidents trophy, so we can savor each one a bit..
by lifetime caps fan on Mar 18, 2010 8:15 AM EDT reply actions
If the Penguins’ D continues as it is, I don’t foresee much trouble with it.
I was happy for Paul Martin, though. That was complete Pens D fail and an awesome shot, and in his first game back. Good for him.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Funny how you never hear the “experts” say the Penguins D and goaltending may be a problem for them in thye playoffs.
They all just seem to beat up on Malkin lately. It’s kinda nice!
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
He is having a pretty crappy year, but I hope they keep harping on him until he wants to be traded.
And Garrioch would get the last laugh if they ever dealt him to LA.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I do honestly think that trade would be fantastic for both teams.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Kopitar and Malkin would be the weirdest-looking duo in the NHL.
What does LA give up in this fantasy? Pick, prospect, Matt Greene and Frolov (though if they didn’t trade him yet, I suspect they won’t)?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
LA is so loaded with young prospects like Thomas Hickey and Brayden Schenn and Colten Teubert Oscar Moller and so many other young guys that it wouldn’t be difficult to put a package together.
I want to be your honey but I got a sweet tooth
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
/Colten Teubert and Oscar Moller
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d do Flash for Moller and a late rounder if we had to move him for Cap reasons or something. Moller’s going to be good.
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I like what I’m reading about Alec Martinez
Martinez combines long, very fluid strides with terrific speed. Martinez’s tremendous skating ability allows him to skate and stay with many speedy opposing players as well as jump up into plays. He is very solid positionally and does an excellent job of staying with his assignment. Martinez has great offensive potential and wonderful puck skills. While he will aggressively challenge opposing forwards, Martinez is not overly physical. His most glaring weakness is his strength.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but he’s a D-guy. Maybe Pittsburgh could use him, but I dunno about us.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I always like a good skating D man. Can never have enough of those.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Especially after watching John Erskine the last few years, who skates like old people have sex.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’d like to thank you for putting that disgusting thought in my head for the rest of the day.
Blech.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
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What more can I say?
by Steck It Out on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Ersky’s got a pretty good shot, though, kinda like old people…
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, maybe he could cut down on the lube and hold onto his stick.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I enjoyed watching Boudreau give Carlson the green light to try to get his first goal the other night.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
He might as well, at that point. It was like in Philly when Washington had a PP up 7-2, and Boudreau throws Steckel, Backstrom, Green, and Semin out there together. “Go get the poor man a goal, will you?”
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
I love it, and wish Carlson would figure out when to pinch quickly so we can see him jump into the play a lot more.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I’d rather he focus on learning defense first and let that part of his game develop naturally. We’re not hurting for scoring.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
by gotsparkly on Mar 18, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So would I, but I can’t see LA making that trade. I’d have to think they could get more elsewhere for Moller.
by David M. Getz on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t want to see more Malkin on a beach photos.
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I’m female and blond/e is the most over-rated hair color.
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Will not go OT… will not go OT..
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by highslot84 on Mar 18, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OT!!!
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
Maybe that was the joke?
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Roger. I was mainly going for the triple ironic effect of having an post calling OT that is itself OT because the original post, while OT, linked to the OT thread.
See?
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And I was playing my “doesn’t get jokes” character.
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Is it me or have we not heard a lot of talk about the Penguins among the experts trying to handicap and analyze the Stanley Cup race? Among all the talk of “Chicago needs this” or “Washington’s X isn’t good enough”, nobody’s really talked about the Penguins a lot. Is this because they’re set and they don’t need anything, or is that because it’s not a trendy topic for discussion?
Inquiring minds wearing cynical pants want to know.
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I think they get a break because they’re the defending champs and have been to back-to-back finals. They also showed last year that they might look questionable during the regular season, but are capable of turning it around. I dunno.
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Because they have the cup. Same with Detroit. They have a track record of success in the playoffs and someone else needs to beat them in the second season before they are considered not good enough.
Ah, that does make sense. I guess looking at it season-to-season is too much. To me, the whole Cup thing was last year, and this is this year, and things change.
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Bleh. Neither of them.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
It could be their record against the teams most consider Cup contenders-Was, NJ, SJ, Van & Chicago is an amazing 0-11 and they’ve been outscored 44-15.
by b.orr4 on Mar 18, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
But wait, there’s more!
Pittsburgh’s record this season against the six teams ahead of them in the League-wide standings (throw in the one game against Phoenix) is 0-10-2. They’re averaging 1.25 goals per game and 3.92 goals against and their PP is 1-for-44 in those games.
Really mind-blowing stuff.
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by J.P. on Mar 18, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Wowza. If anyone looks ripe for a surprise early exit from the postseason, I’d say it would be them.
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I still can’t count them out….they are the defending champs. I would, however, like to see how those stats compare to last years.
Definitely not counting them out. It just wouldn’t be quite as much of a surprise anymore having looked at these stats.
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I’ll be very surprised if they don’t make the second round.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
No, but weren’t they on a huge roll at this time last year?
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They finished the season on a 9-3 run. Wins included NJ, Rangers, Boston, Calgary. Lost to Philly, Carolina and Florida
And more knowledge….Fleury’s save percentages in 2010:
January: .915
February: .898
March: .878
by Hangsleben's Heroes on Mar 18, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
No way. I still think they’re gonna make noise in the playoffs. They’re the defending champs.
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by Steck It Out on Mar 18, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh, they’ll make noise. The question is whether it sounds like Horn Guy or the wounded and dying moose at the Giant Center.
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I vote wounded moose!
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Me too.
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If there’s one thing I learned based on last year, it’s more important to look at how a team is performing post-trade deadline. Don’t think that helps the Pens any, but last year it sure did.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
They looked like a very tired team last night. You have to wonder if the two previous runs to the Finals, this year’s compressed schedule and the number of players they had in the Olympics isn’t finally starting to get to them. That’s why I think the deeper they go in the playoffs, the more susceptible they are to being beat.
Yup. You could see it catching up with the Red Wings as they went deeper into the playoffs last year, as well. They just weren’t the same team.
they were so broken last year. They were held together with athletic tape and prayers. of course, their series with Chicago was may more physical than Pittsburgh’s little exhibition series with Carolina.
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And they had ANA before that, which was absolutely brutal. And great hockey.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
great great series, though! Mr. Bird had a baseball game during game 7, so my mother sat on the phone with my for 2 hours giving me play-by-play, which I would then shout down to the dug out between innings. So next time I bitch about her, please remind me that she went waaaaay above and beyond that night.
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Holy crap, I am richer in knowledge than I was five seconds ago. Thanks for that, both of you.
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FWIW, I was chatting with a Red Wings fan at Carpool last night and he blames the previous two Stanley Cup runs for their struggles. Says they’ve looked old and slow all season. Definitely would not be surprised if that’s why someone like Gonchar doesn’t seem to have as much zip this year.
I also think Coach b was distracted by the Olympics. The Wings’ve looked much sharper since he came back from the Van.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Having the Mule can’t hurt, either.
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Mule is the engine that makes that team run.
I bet if you looked at the Wings over the course of the season, their winning percentage is higher with Holmstrom is healthy, too.
/end RB’s crushing on the goofy Swedish guys.
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Probably a safe bet. Those two represent the guy expected to be the top goal scorer and the actual top goal scorer, eh?
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honestly, I would have put my money on Dats and Zetters. They’re supposed to be the elite players.
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Holmstrom’s best days are behind him. He’s having a nice season this year, but he disappeared in last years SC playoffs.
not that it’s an excuse, but he was hurt so badly in the playoffs he apparently seriously considered retirement. How is body is still going, I don’t know.
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He takes a ton of abuse in front of the net.
He scores a ton of “garbage goals” (rebounds, tip-ins, grinding, ugly, etc.), but those are the kind of goals you need on a team. Not everything is a beautiful tic-tac passing play or a rocket shot from 30 feet.
Hell, Tim Kerr and Dave Andreychuk were both great at that and neither got enough praise.
Andreychuk was criminally underrated. But he won a Cup so then he was good again!
Holmstrom is the best front-of-the-net man in the game today. Just not for much longer.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Gonchar lost his zip because someone knee-on-knee’d him last year.
/Hooks Orpik’d
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Now for comparison, the Caps record against teams that are higher than them in the standings:
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by jordanDC on Mar 18, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
My favorite was the stat that MSG put up last night.
They noted that Pittsburgh has yet to post a shutout this season, against anybody. Only two teams since the end of WWII have won the Cup without posting a regular season shutout. I can’t remember the exact years but one was from the Islanders dynasty and the other from the Oilers dynasty.
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Yet the Caps are the team with problems on defense and goaltending
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think you mean
dirty, cherry-picking headhunters, no?
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
dirty, defenseless, empty-net cherry pickers without NHL bodies. an’ stuff.
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
rope a dope to perfection, eh?
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by bigonetimer on Mar 18, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hooks has a thing up about it over at Pensburgh, asking if you buy or sell the notion that the Pens are in trouble in the playoffs.
I am selling on that idea. In the first two periods last night, the Pens had a good forecheck, got plenty of shots, were probably ahead in puck possession…that sort of thing is particularly effective in a playoff series.
I’m not so worried about the Pens, if I’m a Pens fan.
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For some reason my book has them as likely losers against Boston tonight. I jumped on that wager.
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You think that tonight will end up being one long PP practice for the Pens?
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
I flipping wish the Hated Penguins were in trouble in the playoffs. For two years, their second-season play hs been like…Caps w/o Ovechkin: everyone’s on the plan, handful of merely good players are playing Great, and bob’s your uncle. When you can count on that, and know at least one of the top 5 centers in the league will be On, you’ve got as good a chance as anyone.
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions
However, a turnover prone defense and goalie that doesn’t come up with a big save, like they had last night, isn’t effective in the playoffs.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you imagine what the pundits would be screaming if the Caps turned the puck over like PIT did last night? Holy Crap Mike Green would never hear the end of it if he was Kris Letang last night.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
“Revoke is Norris nomination for last season, he’s the worst defenseman EVER!”
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Honestly, I think they lost more in Gil and Scuderi than they got back. Pens fans like to ignore that saying Scuderi is overpaid, but that doesn’t mean he’s bad. He was their best defensive D last year, Gil is easy to make fun of but he’s no slouch (especially with his ability to never get fucking called for obstruction) and Goligoski just isn’t there yet (at least in his own end) and Leopold is merely average.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed. I thought lots of people were living in denial about what Pittsburgh lost on the blueline over the summer.
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Well, with the win last night, NJ and Pitt are tied in points, with NJ having swept their season series. So don’t leave the Devils out of consideration.
It troubles me that I find myself more interested in watching Pitt-Boston tonight than the Caps.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
As a Caps fan, you’re probably just starved for a fight.
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And there probably won’t be one. But you may be right.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I kinda do too. I expect Cooke to be invited to dance and back out, although there’s a part of me that wonders whether he knows deep down that this time he’d better answer or else.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
You’d like to think his teammates have told him he’d better cooperate because they’re worried they’ll be a target if he turtles.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
That’s why he’ll fight. If he doesn’t, they’ll take it out on his team mates.
I don’t expect it to be a big deal, either. He’ll fight, lose, and maybe have to do it twice. After that, no big deal.
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Given the history of certain players in Boston, the fight (or attempted fight) will occurr no more than 5 seconds after Cooke steps out onto the ice.
Bylsma (or however you spell it) should just put Cooke out there for the opening faceoff and let Lucic have his way and be done with it.
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I’m mad. Why did Paul Martin have to wait so long to get healthy. You give us Paul Martin, Mike Komisarek, and David Booth and we win Gold. Arg.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Tailgating in Raleigh?
Will any Rinkers be in attendance tonight?
Dave's a killer...Dave's a mess...
must admit when we took the bus trip down there last season around this time, the parking lot was awesome!! Was so jealous that there were hundreds of people playing street hockey, Corn-Hole, and Tailgating!
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I don’t know if any other rinkers are, but there are a few people who are making this the second leg of their SE division tour this week.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
I wish we could use F Street like that.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
I’d lose so much money because i’d be leaving work everyday at 12pm so I can go home get my nets, sticks and cooler for down there!
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Anyone see the Pelley (Devils v. Pens) boarding call last night?
it was late, with the numbers and nameplate of Goligoski visible and he was assessed a 5 minute major. Goligoski happened to be only a couple of feet (if that) away from the boards which I think in this case helped him avoid injury.
CC won’t suspend Pelley for this and the only difference I can see is the injury as outcome.
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I saw that. Like I said above, I’ve got my cynical pants on this morning and I think both Pelley and Wisniewski are going to walk.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Sorry about that didn’t see your above comments. I think that you thinking they both get suspended isn’t cynical. . . in my eyes it is almost hopeful. Hopeful that there is some sort of consistency developing in the dishing out of supplemental discipline that is focused on the act rather than the outcome.
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by Lunatic Fringe on Mar 18, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I think she means being cynical by thinking they won’t be suspended.
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
That’s correct. I think neither one gets suspended. Wisniewski might, if only because that was so blatant and so obvious that Colin doesn’t realyl have much choice. I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him get two games at most.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Gotcha, read with the right inflection on the word walk (as in no suspension) considerably changes the context. Thanks for the clarification.
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by Lunatic Fringe on Mar 18, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Anyone have any video for the Pelley hit? My attempts to find it have not been successful.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Here you go… unless you also can’t access youtube.
"We are such fans of your music and all of your records. I'm not speaking of yours personally, but the whole genre of the rock and roll."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Riddle me this (from the video description)
The hit resembled the one Washington’s Alexander Ovechkin delivered to Chicago’s Brian Campbell on Sunday that drew a two-game NHL suspension.
I’m not seeing the resemblance….do I just need more coffee?
Fire up the coffee pot. The first time I saw it, I was all “that is the exact same thing Ovi did, only worse”.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
It was similar, just took place a lot closer to the boards. But the guy skated away so no suspension…
It looks to me like Goligoski sees Pelley coming and then turns away from him while he makes the pass to Letang. Not the wisest move on his part.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Not at all. Gogo didn’t play it well but Pelly was staring at his numbers the whole way. I don’t think Gogo played it much worse than what Campbell did either.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. Watch the video I linked above and pause at about 7 seconds in. Pelley is moving toward the top of the circle and Letang is moving toward the hash marks. Goligoski has his back angled to the boards and is looking towards Letang. He then turns away from Pelley to protect the puck. Pause it at 1:05 for another look. He should have seen Pelley in his peripheral vision.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I was agreeing with you. The “not at all” was in reference to it not being the wisest move. Goligoski and Campbell both knew a guy was bearing down on him.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, sorry. My bad then.
"We are such fans of your music and all of your records. I'm not speaking of yours personally, but the whole genre of the rock and roll."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
As per usual.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No injury, no suspension under the Campbell Rules.
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, well played Pelley. Nice clean hit right there.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
yup, saw it live. Goligoski isn’t foaming at the mouth with eyes rolled into his head, so Pelley gets off, right?…wait, that’s not right…
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by bigonetimer on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
How about that Penguins D? Breakaways to Zubrus and Elias. That was fun to see.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
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I hate the Devils, but these jerseys are SWEET
Props to Marty for the old skool helmet too
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I still think they look like Christmas candy stripers gone wrong.
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I love them. So much more character and awesomeness than the red and black ones.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
they looked awful and if memory serves, their new defensive acquistion in Leopold was on ice for both of those. . . and I believe directly responsible for the one to Elias.
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by Lunatic Fringe on Mar 18, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Though I read on some blog (PensBlog, maybe) that before last night, Leopold hadn’t been on the ice for any of the goals allowed for the past 5 games.
He’s been good — not great.
The Pens have a lot of problems this year, but, as someone mentioned, I think their biggest may be that they’re just getting tired. Two consecutive Stanley Cup finals, Olympics, starting last season in Sweden… I think it all just adds up.
I can see them losing in the first round as much as them winning it all. They’ve just been so inconsistent.
You mean the one that’s giving up 2.87 goals against a game? 21st in the league and worst among all teams that would make the playoffs?
But c’mon…we all know its the Capitals that have problems with goaltending and defense….duh.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m beginning to think that Pens’ peccadilloes and problems might just be a taboo subject among the hockey chatterati.
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Its not one of their “talking points”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I was surprised at how slow they looked trying to get back into the play. I know Elias has good wheels, but I didn’t think Zajac was tremendously fast…
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Zajac is an NCAA product, he’s damn sure got wheels.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
For those of you Computer Savvy folk...
That video of bruce talking about Ovi on CI…
Could someone take that screen shot of him and make it into a picture? How would one go about doing that? I want that as my new avatar.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Hit print screen/sysrequest and then paste into Paint
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
It’s not that hard. If you’re on Windows, stop the video at the point you want the still, then hit Alt + Print Screen to take a screenshot of the Window. From there, you can paste it (Ctrl-V – the image is now on your Clipboard) into your favorite image-editing program and crop it down to just the area you want.
On a Mac, it’s even easier. Stop the video and open the Grab utility. Choose “Selection” and select just the video frame, then click Capture.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
On a Mac, it’s actually even EASIER! Just hit command-shift-3 (for a full screen shot) or command-shift-4 (for a selection).
Further discussion about this should go into the OT thread ;)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Brooks Laich continues to win at life. [D.C. Sports Bog]
Steinz points out in that article that a number of Caps players are having career years, including Fleischmann who now has 20 goals (finally). The Caps now have six players with 20 or more goals and two who are close: Fehr with 19 and Green with 17. We could potentially end the season with eight players on the Caps who have 20 or more goals. That is ridiculous. The next closest team with as many 20 goal players is Vancouver with five and Tampa/Chicago with four.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:13 AM EDT reply actions
Who would have guessed that the Caps would have six 20 goal scorers by this point in the season and Mike Green would not be one of them?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, wouldn’t have picked Eric Fehr to have more than Green. Still not convinced he will by the end of the season..
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I’m glad Flash finally notched 20. I remember a lot of discussion over the last couple years about how he could potentially be a 20 goal scorer in the NHL. Now that argument is finally legit.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m happy for the little guy. I hope Fehr hits it soon as well, just so it doesn’t become a monkey on his back or something.
btw, if we have Chimera from the beginning of the season, he’s easily a 25+ goal guy.
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Yeah, I wasn’t sure how to count Chim. He has eight as a Jacket and six as a Cap. If he scores six more, would you count him as one of the Caps’ 20 goal scorers even though he scored some of those goals for another team?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d say so. His pace with this team will be crazy enough to justify it if he pulls it off.
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Could be. He seems to not know quite what to do with himself sometimes when his speed gets him all alone with the goalie.
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He is so much faster than Grier.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
plus 8 with the Blue Jackets should count as at least 10.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Mar 18, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Steinz’s two recent articles about Brooks augur well for his development as a player.
Looking at Flash’s production this year, I could easily see him drop back to 15 goals, 20 assists and 35 points in the future. Laich, on the other hand, seems to be willing to put in the effort day after day, season after season, to continually refine and improve his game. He may never hit 30 goals, but I get the feeling that he’s going to be a consistent contributor in the NHL for a long time to come.
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Flash’s shooting % this year: 19.4, 2008-9: 14.5, 2007-8: 9.3
Laich’s shooting % this year: 11.8, 2008-9: 12.4, 2007-8: 17.2
Given their two styles of play, I don’t see Flash sustaining his high shooting percentage. If anything, we could argue that Laich’s shooting percentage is far too low given his style of play and track record.
Bottom line, if I were to predict regressions here, I’d say that Flash is due for a fall while Laich should see a slight bump in production.
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You don’t see the season-by-season improvement on Flash’s shooting percentage?
2007-08 to 2008-09 : + 5.2
2008-09 to 2009-10: + 4.9
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for him to stay around where he is now for a couple of years… or even to improve slightly next season.
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19-20 pct is unsustainably high, imo. If you look at it, every year some guys end up around that number, but it’s always different guys. 15% is the high end of sustainable.
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Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this assertion?
Shooting percentages for most players fluctuate fairly substantially. The guys who can “control” them to some degree are at the very highest elite level, and even most of those guys can’t sustain it much higher than 15% (as fat_daddyo points out above). I find the idea that Flash’s innate shooting skill improved THAT much from year to year dubious, at best. Playing on the PP (where shooting % goes up a fair amount) has helped Flash a lot (over 1/3 of his goals are PPGs), but it likely won’t help him that much going forward.
The only other type of player who can sustain high shooting percentages are guys like Mike Knuble and Tomas Holmstrom – big bodied types who score ugly goals from in front of the net.
Between Brooks and Flash, who do you think fits either of the two categories above?
I haven’t done the splits, but I remember that Flash was leading the league with a 25%+ shooting percentage around New Year’s. Since then, it’s fallen quite substantially. I will point out that you argued at the time that this was sustainable, and I pointed out that it wasn’t. Shockingly enough, it wasn’t.
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by D'ohboy on Mar 18, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support this assertion?
I realized after a nice bike ride that I probably sounded a bit harsh when I wrote this. I was pissed/stressed because I was having hard time finding some data at work.
Sorry if I was being a jerk.
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Specific to Knubs, he’s at 19+% this year. Last year? 15%.
The year before that? 16%. Before that, 15%.
Laich’s shooting pct is really encouraging, btw. He’s DUE, baby.
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Yeah, I don’t think Knubs will sustain this rate – he was just unreal for a stretch there. On the other hand, he’s gotten a lot more ice time/opportunities in past years, so his aggregate numbers are better.
I actually think that BB has been managing his minutes to keep him fresh for the playoffs. If that’s the case, my kudos to Boudreau.
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He’s at his peak years right now (26 y.o.) so I don’t see so much room for expansion, but he could be a consistent 25-30 goal guy for several more years, on the right line, right team and if he continues to refine his baker act…
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See my above comment. Laich is reaching his prime, while Flash is a bit younger, but as we can see from guys like Knuble and Tomas Holmstrom, the skill set Brooks has ages pretty well. If he continues his single-minded focus on improving/maintaining his skills, I think he could be a consistent 25-30 goal scorer, which I just don’t see happening with Flash.
Flash before New Years: 14 G in 29G
Flash since: 6G in in 29G
Given what we know about Flash, which do you think is the “real” Flash?
Laich can be every bit as streaky, to be sure, but his style of play will prevent him from pulling Flash-esque disappearing acts.
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Contributes more away from the puck, too.
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With you on Flash – not believing in him one bit.
Agreed that you can expect consistent 25-30 G seasons from Laich for at least another 4-5 years, and probably more (on a good team).
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I bet you Laich continues to learn from Knuble and ends up getting 30 at least once or twice. His skating is much better than Knuble’s and his hands aren’t that much worse around the net. He seems like the kind of guy that would soak up knowledge from Knuble on a daily basis. I love it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
It was mentioned in the OT thread that the ‘83-’84 Oilers squad scored the most goals in a season in NHL history. That team had eight players who scored 20 or more goals. Considering the difference in eras, it would be pretty damn impressive if the Caps could end the season with just as many assuming Fehr and Green reach the 20 goal mark.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 18, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions
wasn’t there a post here comparing these Caps to the 83-84 Oilers in adjusted goals? Or was that somewhere else?
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Cards
That painted card of Bill Clement is like something from a creepy funhouse.
He kinda looks like Torgo.
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bill clements tenure here was like a creepy not so funhouse. cant forgive the caps for putting the C on that guy just cause he won a cup w/ the flyers.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions
ok, i forgive the caps, but you get my point. and they forgot the C in that kanzinsky-ish card. pretty sure clement was the captain from the get go.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I remember a long time ago on ESPN, they remarked about some player having the team logo tattooed on him or something.. so they had a “funny” graphic of a shirtless Clement with each of his former teams “tattooed” on him with lines drawn through them. It clearly scarred me.
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Elliotte Friedman kills it again, this time on headshots: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/blogs/elliottefriedman/2010/03/nhl-must-take-leadership-on-headshots—-now.html
Also makes this point on Ovechkin:
Not the players. The only guy who actually looked like he felt badly about his hit (Alexander Ovechkin) is, as of this morning, the only guy who’s been suspended. (Pending Wisniewski.)
And this:
Can’t blame the Capitals for being angry, especially since Marc Savard’s injury is of much bigger concern than Brian Campbell’s. Repeat offender? Does it matter? Not for Matt Cooke or Steve Downie. Yes, for Ovechkin. (Even though he deserved one.)
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 18, 2010 9:38 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
As I recall, Friedman tends to be one of the more level-headed Canadian commentators.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 18, 2010 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree, and I’m glad that he pointed out that Ovechkin looked to be remorseful. I think that gets glossed over a lot because it doesn’t fit the narrative some of these guys want to create.
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It may appear to be remorse, but in reality it’s Ovechkin’s cry-baby attitude being directed at the refs…who, at the time, were standing over Campbell.
He’s just acting remorseful so he can get back on the ice and look for people to knee and hit from behind! Go Flyers!
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
While head hunting.
I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 18, 2010 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
hey hey hey, the guy also goes knee on knee while headhunting and boarding from behind! The dirty little punk probably also left his feet.
GO Flyers!
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As I recall, Friedman tends to be one of the more level-headed Canadian commentators
Freidman, McKenzie and Adam Proteau of THN are the only guys I read from north of the border. The others all have varying degrees of agendas.
Shakes head.
Alan Muir, Adrien Dater, Jim Kelley - all work for American publications. All were critical of OV and the incident
Damien Cox writes for the Toronto Star. Thought OV shouldn’t be suspended and the system is broken when it comes to suspensions.
To say there is a Canadian media agenda towards OV and the Caps drives me bonkers. It is not true. I have written about it before. I just want to throw my hands up and say “I give up”.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 18, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec’d for perspective and reasoning.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Don’t give up, please. It’s an easy meme — like the one that keeps getting thrown at Ovechkin — and facts are the appropriate response.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
muir i know is canadian, but the other two are american-born i’m pretty sure.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 18, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
To say there is a Canadian media agenda towards OV and the Caps drives me bonkers. It is not true. I have written about it before. I just want to throw my hands up and say "I give up".
You jumped to a conclusion that wasn’t there. For starters, I wasn’t referring to the Ovechkin coverage. I was talking in general. Secondly, I’m only talking about the national guys. I don’t have the time to go and seek out local Canadian coverage. Finally, the three Canadian guys I listed are top notch and they are the only national hockey columnists I do read, Canadian or American. Muir, Dater, Kelly, Burnside are all guys that I never read. In fact, I couldn’t name you one American columnist that can hold a match to those three that I named. Maybe Kevin Paul Dupont, but even he has fallen off lately to where I don’t read him much anymore. The fact is that when it comes to hockey journalism on a national level, there isn’t much to pick from but the ones that I do pick are Canadian.
dammit! I get so pissed by the hypocritical nature of half these articles about Ovie. Esp. articles like the Versus one, where they are like “if he keeps doing this, then media like TMZ will overshadow his great play with the antics of his bad choices.” HELLO?! How about “if he keeps doing this, the current article you are reading will continue to be written and assholes like the writer of the very words you are reading right now will continue to be ass hats”
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here! Worst journalism ever! What does it even take now to write news articles? How do people get such jobs, cause it seems like it requires just sitting down and writing whatever the hell you want and getting paid for it.
FYI, if you can handle it, Mike Wise will be giving away tickets to Caps-Pens sometime during the noon hour.
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I think it’s once during each show today, so you can wait for LaVar, I think at 5:00. Also in the evening show, I believe.
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ah, good to know!
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BTW, Corey is killing it in Caps content today.
Schultz: http://capitals.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=521715
Bradley: http://capitals.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=521717
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CSN, hire the guy already!
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by Steck It Out on Mar 18, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
He writes for them occasionally, doesn’t he?
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He does, but he only does freelance stuff for them and the Capitals. Someone has to hire him permanently.
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by Steck It Out on Mar 18, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
your daily playoff match-ups! And while we’ve seen the same 16 teams for about a week now, there’s been some bouncing around in the standings. For the bubble teams: Boston has 3 points on NYR and 5 on Atlanta, was Calgary is only a point behind Detroit, while Minnesota remains 6 points out of 8th and hope fades with each day.
EAST
(p)Washington vs. Boston
New Jersey vs. Philadelphia
Buffalo vs. Montreal
Pittsburgh vs. Ottawa
WEST
San Jose vs. Detroit (oh, please, PLEASE let this happen!)
Chicago vs. Nashville
Vancouver vs. Los Angeles
Phoenix vs. Colorada
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No question we’re in better shape than the top of the West. The Sharks and Blackhawks must be praying that Calgary gets incredibly hot or Detroit tanks.
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All of the western series would be awesome to watch. I don’t think any of the eastern ones can be considered awesome.
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Agreed. It’s awesome for Caps fans but not the same kind of compelling match ups.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Vancouver/LA would be the “series I never get to see because its on at 1030 every night”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d stay up and be a zombie for a week and a half.
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I’m up at 5 every morning. By Wednesday, I’d be dead.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
dead excited for playoff hockey!
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by jordanDC on Mar 18, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
rememebr that epic Sharks-Stars triple OT game for a couple years ago?! I’m pretty sure the sun was coming up at the end of the game. I called out sick.
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Hey Birdie!
How about posting the Magic Numbers too? :-)
I have 13 for the conference and 19 for the league… anybody? Check my maths?
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Without considering tiebreakers (i.e., these are magic numbers to win outright) it looks like 11 for the conference and 19 for the Presidents’.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Hrm. Maybe I did something weird in my spreadsheet…
OH. Right. I had the Devils at 68 games, and they’ve played 69. I knew I had something wrong in there!
Thanks. :-)
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I have Edmonton as the only team mathematically out…
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I don’t have magic numbers, alas, and that’s something my math-challenged self has issues with. I have a hard enough time figuring it out in baseball, and there’s no such thing as a 3-point game in that sport!
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Basic math:
My maximum available points = my current points + (2 * my games left)
My magic number is when my current points exceeds my closest opponent’s maximum points.
Example:
Caps = 70 games, 103 points. 12 GR * 2 = 24 + 103 = 127 maximum
Devils = 69 games, 87 points. 13 GR * 2 = 26 + 87 = 113 maximum.
When the Caps have 113 points, they win the conference.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
and every time the Devils lose, that number goes down by 2 points, right?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Mar 18, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions
More or less—if the Devils drop behind another team then now we have to be tracking that team instead. But barring that, yes. (oh and of course if they lose in OT you only subtract one)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And every time we win, too.
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2 points for a regulation loss by the Devils, 1 point for an OT loss by the Devils.
2 points for a regulation win by the Caps, 1 point for an OT loss by the Caps.
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(unless the Devils cease to be our closest competitor)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
(Right. In which case, s/Devils/whoever.)
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Actually...
Here’s everyone’s EC max numbers by my calculations (current top 8 seeds):
Caps (103:127)
Devils (113) – Magic = 11
Sabres (110) – Magic = 8
Penguins (111) – Magic = 9
Senators (103) – Magic = 1
Canadiens (100) – already beaten
Flyers (103) – Magic = 1
Bruins (100) – already beaten
Once we have a combination of wins by us and losses by the Sabres totaling 8 points, they can no longer catch us. For the Pens, it’s 9 points, and for the Devils, it’s 11…
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Well yeah, but let’s say the Devils lose their next two games and we lose our next two as well (and the Penguins don’t lose during that time span). In that case our “magic number” specifically to beat the Devils would be 7 and to beat the Penguins it would be 9, so our magic number would be 9, not 7.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course. It’s calculated based on “right now”… but the worst our magic number can be is 11.
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I calculate the MN for the league as 20 (SJS), as opposed to the 19 above?
SJS have 96 points with 13 games remaining = 122 max points, right?
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Yes, you’re right.
I hadn’t added the +1 to my spreadsheet in that column yet.
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If we win tonight, and the SJS lose, that number will drop to 16.
The Canucks have 96 points, are in 3rd in the WC, and lost their last game, and the Sharks have lost their last two…
GO VANCOUVER!!!
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But the magic number will never be any higher than 11.
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Oh yeah, of course. Your magic number can never go up.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Was just debating a simple way to explain that, but your explanation is way better than what I was coming up with.
One point: Caps clinch when they have 114 points, leaving tiebreakers out of it.
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Actually, belay the part about tiebreakers. The Caps cannot win a tiebreaker with 113 points. For the Devils to get 113 points, they’d end up with 55 wins (42 wins now, + 13-0-0 down the stretch).
The most wins the Caps could have with 113 points is 52 (47 wins now + 5-7-0 down the stretch).
Anyway, they need 11 points gained/lost by NJD.
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In other words, the Caps need the Devils’ maximum + 1 to win outright.
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To win at all, is what I was saying, i.e., they can’t win a tiebreaker with the Devils, unless something very odd happens, like the Caps totally hit the skids and the Devils rack up a bunch of points through OT losses…
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Don’t worry, it’s a pretty easy process, and not affected by the three point game. Just identify which team other than the Caps can finish highest in the conference/league—the team with the most points, unless another team has played fewer games and is within 2 points per game they have in hand. Then multiply the games that they have left by two and add it to their point total. Then subtract the Caps’ current point total from that number.
Then again, if I have to type a paragraph to explain it, it’s not really that simple, is it? :)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
You need to add one to the resulting number to make sure tiebreakers don’t come into play. Caps win all the tiebreakers for the conference anyway, so it doesn’t really matter, but I like to include that.
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win all the tiebreakers for the conference anyway
Not necessarily. But yeah, whenever I state a magic number I always include “to win outright”.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Do they win all the tiebreakers?
Thought they lost the second tiebreaker with NJD, and most scenarios with NJD where they would need a tiebreaker, they lose on the first tiebreaker, no?
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I would not be surprised if Vancouver makes to the SC finals. They have a great goal tender and great offense.
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I thought the same thing last year. They look great, but we’ll see if they play as good as they look.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Guess the Ducks and us took Chicago probably out of the running. (But if by some chance we meet Chicago for the SC final, we will really be a hated team and everyone will consider us a dirty team.
I mean we have Anakin Ovechkin playing on our team, the very guy who is growing up to become Darth Vader.
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History Repeating Itself?
Per the HHoF, on this date, “Mike Knuble scored four goals and added three assists to tie a Washington club record with seven points, in an 8-2 Capitals’ win over the Whalers at Raleigh. It was the 1st four goal game of Knuble’s NHL career.” Love me some Knubs.
Well, it would be nice.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
by Sct112 on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Wow, that bq confused the shit out of me for a second, there.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions
" Mike Knuble
Dino Ciccarelliscored four goals and added three assists to tie a Washington club record with seven points, in an 8-2 Capitals’ win over the Whalers at RaleighHartford. It was the 1st four goal game of Knuble’sCicarrelli’sNHL career.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, but I'm going back to the bad place
I watched the first two periods of the Pens-Devils last night. During that time I counted 4-5 hits and/or shoves to the back, on the forecheck, at or below the goal line.
Someone alert Mirtle.
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It’s as rare as mosquitoes in the summer.
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Which makes me wonder — Ovechkin is more of a harbinger than an anomaly. If his hit warrants a suspension, the rules need to be changed to protect defenders/forwards going for the puck. If we need to remove the trapezoid which was suggested in the suspension thread, so be it. Something needs to be changed if we’re looking at protecting the players.
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I hadn’t even seen the Pelley hit – occurred in the third, after I was on to other things.
That’s pretty much the exact same scenario as AO/Campbell, imo. In hard on the forecheck, think a guy’s going one way and plan on finishing your check; he goes the other, and you end up hitting him in the back.
Where’s the outrage?
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Where’s the outrage?
Why, it all was spent on the hit Corvo received in the first vs FLA, fourteen seconds before Chimera’s goal. 77 chased down the puck, ditched it into the corner (Carlson?), started to peel behind the net and got whacked in the 7s. I have never seen anything… like it?
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t have time to read through everything but this is ridiculous…from the Brophy article on Sportsnet
Ovechkin prides himself on being one of the league’s heavy hitters, even if a strong case could be made that he targets his opponents very selectively.
He knows full-well he’s not likely to get much grief from a player like Jaromir Jagr, whom he laid out in the Olympics, or a smallish defenceman like Campbell. Regardless, Ovechkin has crossed the line too many times.
Anybody watch that Russia/Slovakia game? Ovechkin is such a pussy. Throwing hits on that pansy ass Chara all game long.
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quote fail. Everything up to “crossed the line too many times” was Brophy.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 18, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
i was about to quote the same thing. unbelievable. as if brophy hadn’t already given the impression that he’d never seen ovechkin play a game.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 18, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Things that make you go hmmm....
From the RtR link in the Clips:
How many games have the Caps scored 7 goals all season? Actually, it’s 5.
11/7: 7 goals against the Panthers- Ovechkin: out
12/5: 8 goals against the Flyers- Ovechkin: out
1/09: 8 goals against the Thrashers- Ovechkin: one assist
1/26: 7 goals against the Islanders- Ovechkin: no points
3/16: 7 goals against Panthers- Ovechkin: out
Hmmm.
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Conclusion: Ovechkin sucks. Trade him.
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And the nifty thing about that is that with an offense like that, where the hell do you look? Who do you stop? How do you match lines with an attack like that?
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Even better, from comments to same:
Ovie’s not just another weapon, he’s the Warthog in the Capitals Military Operation Battle Plan.. He just fires away, and no matter how hard they try to stop him, short of Colin Campbell suspending him, it’s almost impossible.
And like the A-10, Ovie aint pretty, but he is almost indestructable..
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Don’t mess with the O-10 Russian Warthog.
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I thought it’d be the O-8.
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Blackhawks on Leno
This looked pretty stupid after the Hawks dropped their third in a row.
Completely unrelated, can anyone give a primer on roster rules during the playoffs? Are teams limited to 25, or is it the 50 limit? What are the limitations on call-ups?
I think you’re limited to 50 contracts and the salary cap, but that’s it. You can only dress 23 guys on any night, but you can have up to 50 guys on the roster.
I think.
I get hockey rules wrong all th time, though.
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Correction: you can dress only 20 guys on any night. 2 goalies plus 18 skaters.
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I think you can only have 3 non-emergency call ups, and an emergency is if your number of roster players at a position (forward or defense) falls below a thresh hold.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
And I wouldn’t expect to see call-ups unless a goalie gets injured, what with all the depth players currently on the roster.
You had me at no problem.
yeah, there’s no roster limit after the trade deadline also, so you can have as many as you can afford on your roster within the contracts limit. The moves this deadline will help keep the team NHL experienced when the injuries happen in the playoffs. It was one of the bigger flaws we had as people were playing injured last post season and the call ups were playing like call ups. They looked…ok…but the coach didn’t seem to trust them as much. You need more than that for the playoffs.
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There are no limits on roster size after the deadline (provided, of course, that you stay under the cap).
Teams are limited to four non-emergency call-ups until their AHL affiliate’s season is over.
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NHL.com "FAQ"
How do I become an official?
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s what most people are wondering when they go to NHL.com.
But on second thought, after some of the officiating we see…
Green continues to quietly go about his business as one of the League’s premier offensive-defenseman.
one of? No, sorry, he’s clearly the best offensive d-man. No competition.
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Good for Greenie to get some nice press for once.
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Green continues to quietly go about his business as one of the League’s premier offensive-defenseman. Thing is, when you play on a team that offers the offensive arsenal of the Capitals — Alex Ovechkin, Alexander Semin and Nicklas Backstrom — it’s easy to forget about the back end.
That’s good. You just keep right on “forgetting about the back end,” while our boys light your goalies up. That’s fine with me. :-)
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I’ve actually been considering going to Koho’s referee school one of these summers… I’m too old to have any hope of working in the NHL, but I could potentially work some ECHL games a few years down the line. I’ve seen some of the NHL’s referee training materials… if you saw them, your perspective on NHL officiating would change substantially… some of the things they do that we hate, they’re actually instructed to do.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Call penalties on the home team?
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Use make-up calls or even-out calls?
"Why don't you smegging well smeg off, you annoying little smeggy smegging smegger!"
The “coincident minor penalty” where you stick both players in the box rather than just putting in the one player who really deserved it so you don’t have to put a team down a man? See: Downie and Ovechkin’s coincident minors…
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Its hard to explain… but in the view of the NHL, 2 players beating the hell out of each other and getting ejected for fighting is an example of where “the situation resolves itself.” Or we could make the appropriate calls and prevent that situation.
The vids I’ve seen are excellent in terms of what to call, how to position yourself, what you’re responsible for, communicating with your partner, liensmen, coaches, and players…
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Are there a great deal of unwritten rules? I guess they’d be written in a school, but not in any sort of official way and more of something as a guideline.
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Unwritten rules? Not so much. They’re “unwritten” in that the referee on the ice blows the call and his partner covers for him. We saw this in Chicago, when they gave Ovie a 5 minute Major and a Game Misconduct for Boarding.
Except, there is no Game Misconduct for boarding unless the play results in an injury to the head or the face. Campbell was certainly injured, but sustained no injury to his head or face. Ovie should have been back on the bench after serving his 5.
If the NHL is going to allow the (incorrectly assessed) Game Misconduct to stand, and also suspend Ovi for 2 games, shouldn’t he be sitting out on Saturday too?
oops.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
My understanding is that he did suffer a Grade 2 concussion in addiction to the broken bones?
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That was reported in the twitter leaks, but never made it into the actual statements.
But lets assume that’s the case, wouldn’t that mean Ovie is out for Sunday’s game against the bolts? The suspension wouldn’t start until after he served his Game Misconduct (which would have been served on Tuesday)…
Something is amiss.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
What? No. The game misconduct was served on Sunday.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought the game misconduct just meant that you sat out the rest of the game. Sunday was the game he got the Game Misconduct, tuesday they played the panthers, today they play the Canes, that’s 2 games.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
This.
The game misconduct means he sits out the game in which it was issued.
“A reading from the Book of Rules, Chapter Four, Section 23.1:”
23.1 Game Misconduct Penalty – A game misconduct penalty involves the suspension of a player for the balance of the game but a substitute is permitted to replace immediately the player so removed.
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Ah good catch. My conspiracy theory is thwarted by the differences in the definition of “Game Misconduct” between the NHL and USA Hockey.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Fortunately, I have the NHL rulebook on my computer for handy-dandy reference, and use it often. ;-) It’s (unlike some sports’ rulebooks) readily available on the NHL website as well as on the NHLOA website, which I frequent, and I ask lots of questions on their BBoards.
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I actually have the NHL, USA Hockey, IIHF, & NCAA books on my computer at home, as well as just about every inline hockey rulebook ever written.
I really like rulebooks.
Apparently I need to re-learn the NHL’s rules though.
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by iwearstripes on Mar 18, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
just wanted to note that Wysh posted this as "The first of what should be a wave of “Mike Green will have his revenge on all you haters” stories as the playoffs approach, this one via NHL.com." in the afternoon headelines. Damn right!
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Whoa. On NHL LIve, Hradek says Wiesnewski is an idiot and should be sent home for the rest of the season. Yes, he’s an idiot, but wow.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
anyone who looks at that hit and thinks there is nothing wrong with it is an idiot. there were at least three penalties on that play, not counting intent to injure…
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
My point was I was surprised that someone was calling for a season-ending suspension.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
yeah, a bit harsh imo.
i was seconding the assertion that wiz is an idoit.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s how I understood it, but I wanted to make sure you didn’t think I disagreed with that.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Tonight's Goalies
Tarik says it’s Varly for us and Justin Peters for the Canes based on morning skate. Makes sense from the Canes perspective – why not throw the kid in the fire and see how he does?
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Tim Leone says that both Mitchell and Gustafsson are practicing today which is good I suppose but I want to see pictures from the practice b/c.
Neuvirth’s 4-month-old shar-pei puppy visited practice
by Ice Warrior on Mar 18, 2010 12:36 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why am I not surprised the Neuvy has a dog like that?
shar-pei pups are undeniably adorable, though.
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So there was a new dog at Bears practice today… and Neuvi brought his pet?
Zing!
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by J.P. on Mar 18, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I noticed my GPS is a Neuvi.
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I’m assuming then that it maps the route from Hershey to Washington quite well.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Not like the Alzner does.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Either one beats the Giroux model. It had a nasty tendency to get lost en route to Washington.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 18, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
is neuvi married? what the hell does he do with that dog on road trips or when he’s called up to the bigs? think alzner is tired of walking that dog?
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea and what about in the summer? Is the Czech Republic really soft on letting dogs in? I know most European places aren’t
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Karl has a dashound (and a girlfriend, last I knew). he mentioned it on the big radio thingy he did.
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With a point tonight, the Caps will eliminate the Flyers and the Sens from the #1 seed in the conference…
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Dunno if Kypreos is reaching on the link, but for what it’s worth:
Hearing repeat offender Wisniewski waved[sic] his rights to an in-person hearing with NHL. Possibly opening the door for long term suspension.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
No, he waived his rights for an in-person hearing because he didn’t do anything wrong, therefore there should be no suspension.
/snark
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 18, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
This logic may work in his favor.
“I won’t defend myself because I have nothing to defend!”
Suspend Colin Campbell!
What does it matter anyway for Anaheim? They’re not going to make the playoffs, so they can just trot out Luca Sbisa the next 10-12 games.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 18, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I was being facetious, but yeah it doesn’t matter for them. could mean a lot for the guy though. These next few decisions could carry a lot of meaning to whether or not they are really going to stiffen up discipline or if they were just out to say: “look! we’re not afraid to suspend a superstar”
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Marcus Johansson and Farjestads just started their first playoff game against Skelleftea. You can follow the action here:
http://live2.hockeyligan.se/live_v4/index.html?game=20100318-FBK-SAIK
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And Skelleftea scores. Skelleftea 1, Farjestads 0
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Skelleftea also leading in ‘skotts’ (shots) 12-4.
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Mackan just got an assist! Game tied at one.
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Does anyone know the pronunciations for the team names? Just wondering.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 18, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
End of period 1. Game tied, 1-1. Which isn’t surprising, since as seeds #4 and #5, they are fairly well evenly matched.
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That didn’t last long. SAIK 3, FBK 1 in the middle of the second.
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..is Johansson eligible to play in Hershey this year?
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I don’t know what the rules are, but my guess is “probably.”
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I know he can’t play in the NHL, learned that from Forsberg, but I don’t know about the AHL.
Hmmmm..
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With about 3 minutes left in the game, SAIK 3, FBK 2
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FBK pulled the goalie with 1:37 to go, but it didn’t help. Final score 3-2 SAIK. Mackan 0-1-1, even.
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Good try, hurry along to Hershey!
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..Good point. Stupid Olympics and basketball talk has me all crossed up.
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Standard best 4 out of seven. Next game is tomorrow or Saturday, i have to check.
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Sean Avery annoys Brodeur by standing in front of him and blocking his eyes and waving his stick in his face.
What happens? Rule change within days.
Alex Ovechkin wears tinted shades on his helmet. Brodeur can’t see his eyes and so he complains.
What happens? Rule change within days.
Two players have lost significant time due to head injuries caused by other players targeting the heads.
Whats happens? Nothing.
by JSchon on Mar 18, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I heard that the actual rule didn’t change for the Avery thing, but rather that an updated possible interpretation of that rule was put into place, or something similarly goofy.
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Yeah, I think that was just a memo telling refs that those antics are to be considered unsportsmanlike conduct, or something similar.
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Well then.
Certainly Cooke’s hit couldn’t be labelled (gasp) unsportsmanlike, and sanctioned on that basis. Wait…
The ‘new’ head shot rule is going to make a further hash of NHL’s already lobotomized discipline “standards”. There already are plenty of tools to take cheap shots out: the league needs a stronger judiciary, not a more active legislative.
by redlineblue on Mar 18, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the NHL could issue a similar memo saying that blindside head shots are to be interpreted as intent to injure.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s different though, in my opinion. I don’t want the NHL to rush to crank out some crap rule that’s only going to lead to more confusion. The wording of the rule is going to be absolutely critical, and it’s important that it doesn’t go too far.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 18, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure the wording will be vague enough that the refs can interpret a hook as an attempted head shot and therefore Semin will be suspended for most of the season.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Comparing those two behaviors (and what was done) to a league-wide behavior? Two separate things; besides, not recalling what the proposed new rule is offhand, it’s at least enough that the Competition Committee (of which there are 5 active players) has to meet on it to approve it.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully that’s another reason for D. Fehr to be the PA Executive Director. Having no clue how the other sports’ CBAs read, I’d think he’d drop that in the next agreement for concession on something a lot more valuable for the Union, but who knows.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe my memory was fuzzy, but wasn’t Donald Fehr kind of a goat in the whole baseball players strike? Is that really the kind of guy we want to help prevent further work stoppages?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Mar 18, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Fehr has a mixed history, iirc. He plays hardball, but he’s also the sort of guy who might be what the NHLPA needs to kick their asses and tell them to stop these petty little fiefdom powerplays if they ever want to be able to deal with the owners. But, yeah, Donald Fehr doesn’t give me warm fuzzies. For either side.
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Agreed on all counts. Much as I hate Fehr, he’d be coming in free of agendas, vendettas and Big Brother-like paranoia and did maintain the MLB union’s strength, both of which the NHLPA is lacking.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 18, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
and much to Fehr’s credit, he did get MLBPA through subsequent negotiations quite smoothly. it was just to get to that point, he had to damn near kill the game….
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by renstar on Mar 18, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
So, I think I’m going to watch the Pens/Bruins game today. I’ll probably switch back and forth between that game and the Caps’ but I definitively don’t want to miss that one.
Question: If the Hawks and Caps make it to the SCF, do you think Toews, Campbell or someone else will want to fight Ovi?
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I think the risk of putting the Caps PP unit on the ice in a Finals game is too great to try anything silly.
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by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Mar 18, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Both teams lost their best player for 5 minutes there.. somewhat even. Ovechkin for Campbell would be a loss for Washington.
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And the League suspended him, so that should quell the calls for blood, I would think.
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Bah.
“We can argue the Ovechkin hit,” Quenneville said in reference to the hit on Brian Campbell on Sunday, the last game for Chicago before it traveled west for a trip that continues tonight at Los Angeles (10:30 ET, GameCenter LIVE). “But tonight’s is a different category. It’s not up to me to decide what’s next, but it’s the most dangerous hit in the game.”
A story at NHL.com about the Seabrook hit. Headline sez he’s injured, but the body of the article does not detail said injury.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521817&cmpid=rss-News%20in%20English
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Quenneville called the Wiz hit “the most dangerous hit in the history of the game.”
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That’s a hell of a claim.
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To be even a little bit ‘fair’, Coach Q has had a horrific week. Three really bad losses in a row, and two stud defensemen hurt bad in two games, plus all the media circus that comes with the Flyers and the Capitals, national teevee, and all that.
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We respectfully disagree:
D. Brasher
S. Moore
A. Bailey
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
umm. that D. Brashear…forgot my own name down here in the minors.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow. That’s some hyperbole, considering the Bertuzzi hit and some of the stick work that’s taken place over the years…didn’t some kid die in an Italian League game after getting slashed in the chest??
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actually, upon reread, Q may have been referring to the “type” of hit (taking a run at an unspecting player without the puck and plastering him high into the boards) vs. the actual hit itself. either way, its clearly not the worst hit in the history of the game. clearly ovechkin will perform said hit very soon unless he calms the f down…
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d say Cormier’s brand of hit is up there pretty high..
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…and so is the sort that killed Bill Masterton.
Of course, helmets were optional at the time… but STILL.
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Q has a history of this sort of thing. Not saying the hit wasn’t a nasty piece of work deserving of scorn, but it seems like every hit on his players is the most dangerous hit he’s ever seen.
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Another quote...
“If you hit a guy without the puck, you can kill a guy,” Quenneville told reporters. “It’s the most dangerous hit in the history of the game alright? And he tried to hurt him. That’s not intent?”
Even if you hit a guy who has the puck, you could kill him… but the hit on Campbell was premeditated, ruthless, and broke about four rules. If Wisniewski is not suspended for that hit for at least three games, preferably more, I will be stunned.
The league has until Friday to decide on that; I heard the hearing could be as early as this afternoon.
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hit on campbell? you mean seabrook?
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, brain fart. Up way too late last night…!
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“When you have Chimera skating, he opens up so much for that line,” Boudreau said. “And When Brendan is on top of his game, he can dish. And Eric Fehr, who is underrated as a skater, he plays 10-12 minutes per game and he’s got 19 goals. You give Eric two chances, he’s going to put one of them in.”
Boudreau on CI…
Well give Fehr more chance BB.
The rest of the quote says “..and if you give him 20, he’s going to put one of them in.”
j/k
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20 minutes of ice time he might get three!
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Frak, yes. More ATOI for E. Fehr, please.
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Maybe Bruce thinks Fehr has diminishing returns or increased negatives with increased ice time. That would explain the limited time. All I’d have to do is chart his performance over his career by points, +/-, Corsi, etc, broken down by game/ice time, carry the one and….
Who knows, I might even work on it one of these years.
Fehr, for all that he seems like a laid-back and agreeable guy off the ice, seems to have an “I’ll show you” determination on the ice that gets amplified when he (or the team) is at a significant disadvantage. Like clutch goals at moments when he’s getting really low ice time.
I vaguely remember a discussion a few weeks ago about how he might be one of those guys who responds best to negative reinforcement. I don’t recall enough details of that thread to even search for it — My memory is crap; can anyone recall what I’m talking about?
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 18, 2010 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps trivia question of the day!
There are currently six NHL head coaches who have worn a Washington Capitals uniform for at least one game. Can you name all of them?
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I’ll get us started:
Sacco
Tocchet
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Sacco.
Tocchet
Bylsma
Ruff?
No clue after that…
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Sorry, meant Dave Tippett not Dan Bylsma
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Quenneville played for the Caps briefly, didn’t he?
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Yes he did. Nine games in 1990-1991.
Sacco (256 games), Tippett (91 games), and Tocchet (13 games) are also correct.
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Yes indeed! Seven NHL games in 1979-1980, which were incidentally the only NHL games he ever played.
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Terry Murray is another
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 18, 2010 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Who are we missing?
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Oh.
That’s 6:
Murray
Noel
Quenneville
Sacco
Tippett
Tocchet
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Leighton gone 8-10 weeks
High ankle sprain of the worst kind, according to Flyers website. Think Philly can fall to the 8th spot now?
Totally agreed. I either want them facing PIT or golfing when the first round hits.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
jesus, that sucks. 3rd degree sprain?
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Wisniewski suspended for eight games
I’m shocked. Seriously, I wasn’t expecting that kind of suspension. Seabrook skated away after a couple of minutes, what happened to injuries determining length of suspension?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 5:04 PM EDT reply actions
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Wisniewski’s 8 games is a good suspension (albeit completely out of whack with precedent) because it punishes action and not outcome.
It totally flies in the face of precedent in both directions, but if this is what they’re going to do consistently going forward (hahahahahaha_hahaahaha_), then good on them. Punish the action, not the result.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised if the length of this suspension was related to trying to deter fun-n-games during the Pens-Bruins tilt this evening.
Y’know, you might be onto something there. Interesting.
Still, the precedent is blind-sided headshots are kosher as long as they’re done with the shoulder and you don’t skate through them. That’s really all the Bruins need to do if they’re actually looking for revenge. Cooke is probably going to spend the evening hiding behind the linesman.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Y’know, you might be onto something there. Interesting point.
Is what I meant to type. Oi. Needs more sleep.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i think there is no coincidence in that. this is the fastest ruling ever and no doubt colin wanted it done before the game.
and thats a crock of shit. now he’s adding another criteria to the suspension wheel o fun. the “i warned you” criteria. what if someone on the bruins w/ no track record of shenanigans goes after cooke with a high hard check into the boards. does he get more games because, well, he had been warned just before the game? or does colin go with the same criteria of the extent of the injury?
givent that the b’s are fighting for a playoff spot, i’m guessing there is limited or no crap going to happen with cooke. nobody’s going to turn away from a check on him thats for sure and maybe someone challenges him to a fight or three. but unless the game gets out of hand, i dont see anyone trying to get overly penalized for going after cooke.
jack edwards undies must be wet with anticipation.
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by dcsportsfan1 on Mar 18, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Great point. Campbell is meeting with boith teams before the game. I bet he says I just gave Wisniewski 8 games. You’ll get worse if you pull any cheap crap.
If any one is listening.
The Bruins won’t be rolling out any red carpets. Mark Recchi said that he and his teammates haven’t been notified that Campbell will speak with them, and when asked if he wanted answers from Campbell, Recchi was blunt.
“No, we don’t want him in our room,” Recchi said.
http://www.nesn.com/2010/03/colin-campbell-not-welcome-in-bruins-dressing-room.html
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Wisniewski grabbed himself an eight-gamer for his hit on Seabrook.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
its been announced?
Been gone all day. Wowsers. Where was that for Cooke?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 18, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Inquiring minds would love to know.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
But more to the point, the inconsistency and total disregard for precedent coming out of Campbell’s office is staggering. Cuqui brought up an interesting point — this may be a warning for the PIT/BOS game tonight that there best not be any funny business.
I’m extremely interested in seeing what Pelly gets for his hit on Goligoski now, if anything. If injury is a criteria for suspension, holding a player out, especially if it’s a player you’re neck-and-neck with for the division, is something you have to at least consider. Or report that the player is injured in time for the disciplinary hearing and then have him get a second opinion that clears him for play. It’s shady and the PA won’t go for it, but I wonder if they’re competent enough to make that claim stick.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone agree with the assertion Crosby should fight tonight?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 18, 2010 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t like holding other people responsible for the reckless behavior of other adults. That said, I won’t be surpised if it happens.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 18, 2010 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I won’t either. It would totally be hysterical. We have Matt Bradley who plays with honor and will fight anyone and absolutely will not let anyone punch AO. They have Matt Cooke who plays without honor and would let his team’s meal ticket take punches inna face because he’s a puss.
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