Campbell on Ovechkin Suspension

"Look, if there's no injury on the play, we probably, we don't do anything, but that's part of the supplementary discipline process. If you cause a player to be injured, then you have to be responsible for the play...."
-Colin Campbell on Ovechkin via Steinz

almost 2 years ago Alz Well That Ends Well 13 comments 0 recs |

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Mike Richards and Matt Cooke beg to differ

by Tromni on Mar 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT reply actions

My point exactly.

Now, you could argue that you are only responsible for injuries resulting from a “penalty”, i.e. an action which regardless of injury resulting, would be penalized. A clean hit which causes a freak accident should not garner a suspension. They are 200+ lb men in full gear skating as fast as they can at each other and trying to knock the other off the puck. These are actions which can generally be understood to carry the risk of injury, and every one of them suits up in spite of it. The implication here is that a hit within the boundaries of “does not usually cause injury, thus is a legal or safe hit” and causes an injury is not suspendable, while an infraction like boarding, which regardless of specific results can generally be expected to cause injury and is thus forbidden, carries additional penalties (e.g. suspension on top of 5 min and game misconduct) when an injury does result.

"Inglewood Jack! Inglewood Jack!" - Coach Jules

by Alz Well That Ends Well on Mar 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions

So basically he’s coming out and saying that the suspension was because someone was unfortunate enough to get hurt.

Read: I suspended him because the Blackhawks complained and it was easy to do.

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

by gotsparkly on Mar 17, 2010 3:45 PM EDT reply actions

And a major penalty was called (rightly or wrongly, doesn’t matter). Do recall, we were hopping mad (and rightfully so) when Janssen decked Bradley, who was hurt on an illegal play (yet didn’t miss any playing time outside that game). Despite his incredible ineptitude, Campbell did manage to finally suspend him. So I guess there is that. Teeney weeny consistency?

Doesn’t mean I agree with it, though. Also means I can’t believe I seem to be defending him.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Mar 17, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions

I should add that I forgot it was the last game before the break, and therefore it’s possible Brads could have missed time otherwise.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Mar 17, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions

Nope a major was called on Richards – so he fully had an option to suspend based on the idea of supplementary discipline on a penalty resulting in an injury.

CC even had the balls to say that they were considering making headshots illegal BEFORE the Richards hit. Which begs the question – why no suspension then?

by Gin and Tonic on Mar 17, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions

More and more the only viable solution appears to be removing Campbell from this position. Nothing else makes sense at this stage.

by Stormblue on Mar 17, 2010 3:48 PM EDT reply actions

I wonder when the NHLPA will stand up and do something about Campbell…

oh, wait, I think I just answered my own question.

by FFSEnough on Mar 17, 2010 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions

There is a rule on the books already that is written losely enough to have covered Cooke. There is absolutely one covering what Downie did…and even Richards if you stretch roughing a bit. They just chose not to apply them in any of these cases. Cases where injuries were or could have been much more severe than Ovie’s borderline boarding that resulted in a bad injury.

Gutless interview from a gutless puppet. I hope the reason Campbell didn’t suspend Cooke and Downie so they are available for their respective teams rematches. I hope the next BOS PIT game is on Vs or something so I can watch Chara and Luch chase Cooke down the tunnel crying for his mommy. Odds are, nothing will happen. So much for “Code.”

I don’t mind the 2 games. I was hoping for 5+ cause I’d love to see Ovie stop the careless bullshit. Glad he’s got a chance to compete for the Rocket though. But I wonder if this is going to put him back in a slump like each of the previous incidents did…or will he come out of this hoppin mad?

by FFSEnough on Mar 17, 2010 4:39 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

gutless referring to Campbell, not Steinz.

by FFSEnough on Mar 17, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions

A major penalty was called on Richards. 5 minutes for interference and a game misconduct. Just saying.

by Gin and Tonic on Mar 17, 2010 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions

Tis better to stay silent and be thought a fool…

Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst

by Killer_Carlson on Mar 18, 2010 2:25 AM EDT reply actions

Making Lemonade...

I heard Campbell on NHL Home Ice yesterday, and was terribly unimpressed with the logic of his presentation.

Funny, though, a caller that identified himself as an Islanders fan, wondered aloud if the suspension was given out in order to help Crosby win the Richard trophy…

I don’t believe in the consiracy theories, but I did get a good laugh out of it.

by Boodgiesdad on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions

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