Wednesday Caps Clips: Sweep in Sunrise
Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win (making the Caps a perfect six-for-six against Florida this season) from the us, the WaPo (blog, gamer), Vogs, D.C. Sports Bog, DCEx, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, RtR, On Frozen Pond (worth a click for the photo), Litter Box Cats, MD Pro Sports, the CAPS lock, A Capital Offense and RMNB.
- Awww, yeah... reppin' in the Sunshine State. [TweetPhoto]
- You can add "the hit didn't cause the damage, the boards caused the damage" to the list of things Bruce Boudreau has said that likely had the Caps PR team instantly smacking their foreheads (with "He's pretty reckless" still the clubhouse leader). [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Sigh. More Alex Ovechkin reactions and whatnot. [TSN, The Hockey News, Mike Wise, PeerlessAlex Ovetjkin]
- By the numbers, AO is your MVP in a walk. [On The Forecheck]
- Watch the debut of "Caps OT" and let me know what you think "OT" stands for. [CSN Washington]
- Congrats to the Caps for being named a finalist for SBJ's Professional Sports Team of the Year. Of course, we all know what they'd rather win. [Capitals]
- Given what today is, I thought I'd trot out this oldie-but-goodie.
- One-and-a-half Caps entries in the latest edition of Jersey Fouls. [Puck Daddy]
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"the hit didn't cause the damage, the boards caused the damage"
Hence the term. “boarding” … God, I love Bruce. No coach in the league is as “unfiltered” as he is.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Technically, he’s correct. If the boards aren’t there, then he slides as long as his momentum carries and doesn’t get hurt.
You can’t get fined if you tell the truth.
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Actually if Campbell doesnt lose his edge, they both go into the boards together and Campbell is still playing.
I’m officially done talking about this topic.
Can we just restrict the convo on the suspension to the other forums where its being discussed? I know its hockey-related, but for everyone’s sanity, that would be a good idea, no?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Couldn’t agree more. And yes, there are links in this post related to it, but for sanity sake… agreed.
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Let’s just drop it, entirely. No more!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I love the Rink
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
VENGEANCE!!!!
Carolina, you’re next.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:16 AM EDT reply actions
And I hope the road trippers represent accordingly.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
eew
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
…on SportsCall with Ken Beatrice…
Gads, I’m showing my age…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
EEEEYYYYYOU’RE NEXT!! On Sportscall!!!
BERNIE STREETER’S ARBY’S RESTUARANT!! NOW, I DON’T LIKE THE FRIES. I CAN’T EAT THEM. PEOPLE TELL ME THEY’RE GREAT!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Was pretty much the soundtrack to my childhood. Dad would listen to Beatrice every night religiously.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I’m not crying. I’ve just got something stuck in my eye.
Signed,
This former DC Resident/WMAL listener back in the 80’s
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 17, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I just started humming “Meet the Puck,” could you hear it?
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Mar 17, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Think I’ve mentioned it before, but his kid coached my 8th-grade baseball team.
Ken Beatrice was money.
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THE NFL IS A GAME OF ATTRITION!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yaw’re entitled to yawr uhpinions, sah…
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That photo at On Frozen Pond (along with the headline — you left that out) is priceless.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I have a framed (probably 24 × 36) black and white of that in my den. What a moment.
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Does this mean Vokoun played the role of David Woodley last night?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
David Woodley was the QB for the Dolphins in that game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And AO would make a fantastic fullback.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
It’s Don McNeal Riggo ran through.
He’s a Baptist Pastor now…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=supervictims&num=3
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My bad. This veered us off-topic.
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No, the person who put the picture and the headline on that story did. But the more I think about it, that idea was probably more painful for Redskins fans than Panthers fans.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
eh, you were just talking about the stuff in the clips.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
One of those perfect, golden moments of unalloyed joy.
Riggo!
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Fake zoom!
Dave's a killer...Dave's a mess...
by MassCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Good heavens that’s like looking at morse code.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow — DeBoer sat Frolik and Weiss most of the 3rd period – or were they hurt? Weiss usually kills us.
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I was just going to say that…Frolik, Booth and Weiss all just stop there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You have better eyes than me. I missed Booth. That’s even more a mystery.
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Booth picks up again late in the third, but there’s a huge gap there where all three of them are completely off the ice for a significant period of time. Frolik and Weiss never got back in.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
DeBoer was clearly pissed postgame. Probably sending a message in a game that was, by that point, lost.
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Did it seem like Frolik completely disappeared after Morrisonn blasted him right off the draw? That would be enough to make any coach pretty angry.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
There may not be a player in the League in more dire need of a serious off-season bulk-up regimen than Michal Frolik. Dude’s a stick, and gets thrown around. If he ever gets big, though, watch out – love his skill.
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I do too. If only for the fact that him and Olesz kill me in NHL 10.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The OFP guy said Be Doer benched them because he’d “had enough” of them. Weiss was -3 through two periods, I point out.
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If he’s had enough of ‘em, we’ll gladly take ’em. Weiss at 2C would make me happy. /daydream
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Yeah. Although if we got Frolik, and put him on a line with Semin, Boudreau’s head would explode.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Frolik/Fleischmann/Semin
Call it the “Agita Line”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys talkin’ about? Semin’s a professional bongo player with a busted lip! HE’S TEAM TOUGH.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Seeing Jose’s bar really kinda makes me wish he had joined the rush. Would have been incredibly hilarious.
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No. No no no. No Jose joining the rush. The only time I want to see a goalie hauling ass down the ice is when he’s headed to the bench for a sixth skater.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Or when he’s skating the length of the rink to join in an awesome line brawl. Miss you, Olie!
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Braden Holtby.
It’s coming.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see that. :-)
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You’re probably right. That’s boy’s got a nasty side, I think, and I like it.
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I like a G who’ll pitch(fork) in on the crease-clearing.
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
And that boy has some mad stick skillz, too.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes yes yes. Comedy gold.
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Sadly, I think there’s a rule against goalies crossing the red line.
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Patrick Roy says shush.
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What an awesome moment that was though!
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That would’ve been an epic delayed penalty sequence.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to note that, while I love Theo, I don’t think he can “haul ass.” Watching him skate is like watching molasses move across ice.
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Jose really likes chit-chatting with the linesmen. And not just to complain. Several time you could see him say something, then both he and the linesmen would start to laugh.
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
That kind of stuff is fun to watch.
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I just get the sense that Theo is finally getting back to a better place emotionally. He’s not going to ever forget what happened, but he seems more relaxed on the ice. It was painful watching him last December.
Both relaxed and authoritative, if that combo makes sense. There’s been an economy and resilience to his game that we’ve not seen since he’s been here. I think he’s been terrific.
I thought it was awesome that Green went to his house to watch the olympics, sitting there by Jose’s fire…
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Did he? That’s pretty cool. Is there an article on this?
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember seeing it on CI, but can’t find the post.
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/mike-green-on-watching-the-oly.html
“Capitals defenseman Mike Green always imagined watching Wednesday’s epic Canada-Russia Olympic hockey game from ice level, a red and white jersey on, and his name stitched to the back. But because he was one of the odd men out when the roster for the Canadian Olympic team was announced last month, Green took in his home country’s 7-3 triumph over Russia on Wednesday in front of a fireplace while sitting in a La-Z-Boy at the home of goalie Jose Theodore.”
by vzotsky on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They both experienced loss this year. I’m not arguing that not making the Olympic team is anything near as bad as losing a baby, but it is still a loss and it was good for Mike to be there.
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they’re also both veterans of the canadian national team (at least at the world championships):


by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YES. This. I’m very happy with Theo’s performance so far this year. :-)
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Always nice to see a shift chart with a broken line for the opposing goalies… :)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Not Caps related, but EC and SE related: Since the trade between New Jersey and Atlanta, Ilya Klvahuck has five goals as 12 points in 13 games with a +4 rating; Niclas Bergfors has six goals and 11 point sin 14 games with a +4 rating and Oduya has five points and +4 rating.
Yeah, but Kovy (aka “Klvahuck”) has 2G, 2A in his last three. An adjustment period was to be expected. If you’d like to wager on productivity going forward, I’m in.
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Sucks for Brian Campbell he’s going to miss the rest of the season with his broken Klvahuck
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Season? I heard six-eight weeks and no surgery so he could be back mid-May when the Blackhawks should still be playing. Did I hear it wrong?
I dunno. I saw 7-8 weeks but I was trying to make a Klvahuck/Clavicle joke.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s probably going to be a little longer than that, because I don’t think he’s going to be doing much skating in his current state.
Or cycling. Or squatting. Or…
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah, this is what I get for posting at 7:48 in the morning.
Agree on Kovalchuk, but that’s a pretty nice (immediate and short term) return for the Thrashers.
See, I thought you spelled it the way you did on purpose – no “o”.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From Tarik’s Gamer:
Ovechkin has missed four games against the Panthers and two of the teams’ three meetings in South Florida, which didn’t please a throng of local Capitals fans, who held up red and white signs that read “Free Alex” along the glass during warm-ups.
feel the love, JP.
I still have my signs I made up for the Philly game. Was wondering if we should break them out again…..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
They used the same signs, if you look carefully.
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Two rink-branded Free Alex signs were shown and mentioned in the 3rd, cutting away to Ovechkin in the pressbox.
Was it a shot from warmups, or was it in-game? Just curious, so I can FF on the DVR.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Third period. I want to say the score was 6-2, but not certain. 2 signs, 1.5 sign-widths apart. They were the subject of the shot, not a coincidence, then 8 up in the Nacho Nook talking and chuckling with a Steinz impersonator.
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It might have been the authentic; I was surprised he made the trip last night.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ve seen that guy before. Thought he was identified then as an assistant to GMGM, but I could be wrong.
Joe B said Alex was up there with the assistant coaching staff when they were both on screen.
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does Steinz wear an ear piece? Cuz this guy definitely was…
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Was definitely not Steinz.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
He looked like Pierre Mcguire’s little brother
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
It was video coach Blaine Forsythe, if I’m not mistaken.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Mar 17, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The people sitting behind the Caps bench had them too. Right after Florida scored their first goal one of them was placed right next to Bruce’s head trying to get in the shot. Of course Comcast took the angled shot of the bench and not the direct angle, but you could still see the sign and appreciate the effort.
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You’re welcome. :)
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You’re welcome. :)
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So nice my cell said it twice.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Free Alex: The Shirt!
Available in both white (and grey) and red.
Something tells me we might need them again at some point…
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
2010 (consistent with other shirts). Next year’s shirts will have 11 on ’em.
What do you think? Stick with it or make these #8?
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Need? No. But we’d like to get the name on there, and putting it with name and number like a jersey tee looks good, IMO.
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My thought is that the number font isn’t the same as those on the Caps jerseys, so it looks off.
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Our lattitude in that area isn’t great, and the images aren’t very representative of how the end-product looks anyway (not ideal, but it’s what we’ve got).
Would love someone who bought a porcupine tee to post a pic of front and back.
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I bought one.
It hasn’t turned up at my flat yet, though… how long do these things take, anyway?!
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Guess we’re waiting to find out, eh?
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Right, so my personal tastes would say no number over wrong font, but that’s just me being a guy that has to worry about design standards over lots of different properties for a living.
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Buying it as soon as I get home.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me we might need them again at some point…
That’s a slogan worth getting behind.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking Ovie’s chances at MVP this year are dwindling for two reasons:
1) The two suspensions might bias people in the voting
2) 7-2 without him, mostly blowouts
I can see number 1 being a problem, but number 2 shouldn’t matter at all, even though it probably will, which is one of the things I HATE about MVP voting.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Do other sports leagues vote for MVP the same way the NHL does? (i.e. MVP of the team and not MVP of the whole league)?
Mostly just based on what I know to be the tendencies of sportswriters
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
This might draw a lot of flaming here on the rink but I gotta say… I’m surprised Crosby isn’t on that list for the MVP. Malkin and Fleury have been ‘meh’ .. meh..Gonchar’s been descent, but for the first time since Malkin’s rookie season I think Crosby has totally separated himself from the rest of his pack.
He should be. Sid’s a great player.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not joking when I say this, but what about Backstrom? He won’t win it, but shouldn’t he be in the conversation?
He should be, but he won’t be. Its a popularity contest.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The downside of playing with the best player in the world, he takes the spotlight.
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think last night was one of those rare circumstances where we got to see just how great Nick is, and how great AO is, because AO was not on the ice. Nick was creating and making chances, but the drop off from AO to Flash was, uh, noticeable.
And seriously, as well as that third line clicked I don’t want to see BB messing with it just to keep his Precioussss in the line up. Flash won’t be on the first line, shouldn’t be on the 3rd line, isn’t a 4th line player, and isn’t a 2C. But I’m sure BB finds a way to shoehorn him into the lineup again when AO is healthy, regardless of how well Chimera/BMo/Fehr keep playing.
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Yea, Flash really does seem to be the odd man out here, doesn’t he.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Flash should never be in the 1LW. That should have been Chimera, because that’s replacing like-minded players, IMO. Speed and a hard forecheck.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that I want to see Fehr/BMo/Chimera again. Who knows if it was just because we own FLA, but that line was great and if they play like that regularly they need to stick together.
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Chimera was a beast last night. Rico Fata may have been faster, but I swear Chimera is one of the most powerful skaters I’ve ever seen. His stride just chews up the ice and he makes it look effortless. Getting him was a stroke of genius by McPhee.
He looks like he’s working a little harder than Feds did, but he is hell for fast. When they show ice level views, or when you’ve got another skater to compare him to, he covers a shedload of ground.
Agree with all the above that Chimera needs to play on the third line as a regular fixture.
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When they show ice level views, or when you’ve got another skater to compare him to, he covers a shedload of ground.
Seriously. When he gets it in gear, it sometimes looks like an adult skating with eight-year olds. A couple of years ago, the Caps were a team of young kids. Now, they’ve got grown men up and down the lineup. Can we start the playoffs now, please?
And he gets to that top gear in about one or two strides, too.
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There’s nothing better than Chimera dumping it into the zone on a rush for himself. I think that is when he’s most dangerous — if you play him tight, he’s going to beat you to the puck. If you play him loose, you’re going to (hopefully) give up a goal.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No. Backstrom has no value beyond maybe that of an average third-line center. Really, this year he’s put together is a fluke and unlikely to be repeated or bettered.
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His numbers are due to regress to the mean RSN.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
It could use a trim, but I think I would be utterly shocked (and disappointed) if Nicky got rid of his charming blond locks altogether.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
he wouldn’t be Backstrom without them!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Lacking as he does an NHL body, the ability to take over games, and a 9 year extension , I don’t see how you can say such a thing.
If they had a chubby-face All-Star team, Backstrom would be on the first team along with Rick Nash and Ilya Kovalchuk. Nash being the MVP. He looks like he eats Big Macs for breakfast. 2007-2008 Mike Green could play defense. Can’t think of a #2 d-man. Brodeur in net, of course.
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by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poor Rick Nash, stuck out in CBUS… He could be a star I tell you!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, but the hockey community in general won’t be.
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Unfortunately, and I hate to give them credit— they’re going to get much butter. And thats a great city for hockey.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
errrr
Much “better”.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, you shouldn’t have corrected that. It would’ve been so much butter when I’d discovered it myself!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Nash will like the much butter, that fatty!
Just kidding, he still shouldn’t be stuck in Ohio.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
…which isn’t that bad. As I mentioned.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you been to Ohio?
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Look, its not as good as Nashville, but I found Columbus to be pleasant— especially the arena district.
Some people have the same problems with DC, so its really personal opinion. Rick likes it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, because there is nothing to do the DC area, yep.
I respect that he obviously likes it, but that doesn’t mean my personal opinion is he would be better off somewhere else.
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Thats not why I’ve heard people don’t like DC. That’s off-topic though and should be taken here.
I know the Leafs wanted him—but CBJ have a brighter future.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope they continue to trade with us, seems to have worked out pretty well.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s “stuck”. He likes it there, thats why he discounted his extension. Where should he have signed, Toronto?
Like I said, Columbus has proved to be a good hockey town and the Jackets are going to really improve out from under Hitchcock. They’ve got a really good set of young players and a high pick this year.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I just hate Ohio :)
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They fire a cannon when they score. That’s awesome.
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Ha, disagreed, of course. I’ve heard it too many times.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he still shouldn’t be stuck in Ohio.
Folks said the same about Ovechkin and D.C. Let them have their stud.
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Mind throwing us a superstar?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
You had Vokoun and let him go.
And you had Forsberg! :)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…I’m sure people in Memphis and people in Nashville think their cities are exactly the same.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
DC and Baltimore are the same place, rite?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Stupid, stupid, stupid self imposed cap. I wonder where we’d be if we had kept Vokes.
Didn’t like the Forsberg trade then, don’t like it now. Washed up superstar for a month for two good prospects and picks? WTF?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They’ll play great games against the Big Nose All-Stars club, captained by former-and-current Capital Milan Jurcina’s nose.
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Brodeur must be doing double duty, he’s the goalie for the all-fatso team: the Heavyweights. First line of Tkachuk, Wellwood and Weight.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
With Byfuglien battling for a top spot.
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Mike Green on D?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Rick Nash looks like the Lost Chipmunk on Steroids
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is on the list, or at least will be when it’s all said and done. The Pens have made a charge and it’s been mostly him. But I do agree that, if it’s possible, Sid’s having an “under the radar” amazing year. You hear plenty about his goal-scoring, but it pretty much stops there.
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Third in the league in Offensive GVT (behind Ovi and Henrik Sedin), and (for what its worth), is also the best shootout GVT in the game with Brad Boyes, and in overall GVT, he’s second behind Ovi.
Sid should be mentioned in the MVP race anyway, but he’ll win it because of the Olympics, and because he hasn’t had any “incidents”. They won’t give Ovi 3 MVPs in a row. Sounds tinfoil hatty, but with how many media people Ovi made angry at the Olympics (and the writers vote on the Hart), and Sid’s medal winning goal, it’ll go to Sid. I think he’ll win the Hart, and Ovi will win the Pearson.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again.. if Ovie wins the scoring race with 10 less games than everyone else that might hold some weight too. I just disagree with a lot of people that were on the list in that article. My top 5 are
Ovie
Crosby
H Sedin
Miller
Bryz
If there were any justice, people would be mentioning Tomas Vokoun with Miller for Vezina. No one does more with less.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If Miller didn’t keep pooping in his pants against weak teams, his numbers would be even better. If that were the case, I would put it Miller, then OV, then Sid.
But that is the case, so it will probably be OV, Miller, Sid.
If he keeps pooping his pants against “weak” teams, wouldn’t that mean on some level he’s not as good as has been advertised?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially during elimination weeks for my fantasy team…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Why Miller for the Hart?
Then again, why not?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun’s playing better for a worse team.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Stats are so close.
Miller:
.929, 2.21, 5 SO
Vokoun:
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun was at .930 before last night, but Miller also got the Vaudeville hook after giving up 3 goals in the first 4 minutes of the game against Atlanta.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
.930 on the freakin’ Panthers is sick.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
.930 onthe freakin’ Panthersany team is sick.
Vokoun is the best goaltender in the league. 7 SOs with the Panthers skating in front of him… that’s sicker.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
That is exactly why I would have sold pretty much half of Hershey to get the guy here at the deadline.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun gets more rounds fired at him than you’d see in a Schwartzenegger movie
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Goals/Game
Florida- 2.52
Buffalo- 2.69
PP%
Florida – 15.2
Buffalo – 16.7
Shots/Game
Florida – 28.8
Buffalo – 31.7
Shots Against/Game
Florida – 34.1
Buffalo – 31.6
I mean, i’m taking a few liberties here because Vokoun hasn’t played every single game, but that’s a decent picture of where the two guys are in terms of support.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun was at .930 before last night
Oh yea? Which band was palying and how’d he make it back so fast?
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by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can only buy off on a G for th Hart in limited circumstances – like, say, a flat out dominant year on a flat out dominant team that doesn’t trap the snot out of the game.
BUF hasn’t been dominant.
Now, if Theo were to have put up a .935 Sv% and a 2.01 GAA with 45 wins or so, then maybe. You can all thank me for the laughter you’ve just enjoyed.
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I would think going performing on a lesser team would make you a bigger Hart candidate (Theo in 01-02). Being the only reason your team makes the playoffs would makes a stronger case for MVP
Well, Goalies are always the most important players on the ice, so they have a built in advantage. I like, just out of personal preference, to reserve the Hart for a skater, except in truly exceptional circumstances.
If you awarded the Hart just based on which player added the most value to his team, it would always be a goalie winning, really.
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If there were any justice, people would be mentioning Tomas Vokoun with Miller for Vezina.
He’s amazingt but (here come the flames) if your team can’t get into the playoffs it seems unlikely you’ll be in the running
Which is unfortunate, because that’s not his fault. Not in the least.
The man has a Save PCT of .930 for the love of Mary. On a shit team. With terrible offensive support (even worse than Buffalo).
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
stats don't lie
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Florida’s goal differential is -23
Buffalo’s is +12.
He gets NO support.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Which list are you talking about? Dirk Hoag has him in the poll but he’s not in the chart, presumably because his numbers aren’t top 15 in the league by those metrics.
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Measuring who the most valuable to his team was did not yield Crosby.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
huh?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Suggesting that Sid isn’t among those players most valuable to his team.
They’re not sniffing a playoff berth this year, let alone a division championship, if he’s not playing.
Does this system of ratings also factor in salaries in determination of value? That’s a pretty big indicator.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, that’s silly. They’re still a playoff team without Crosby.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP awards don’t matter… there’s only one trophy that matters, and that the big silver one (Shiny!) that you get on the ice in June… and they’ll give that one to Ovechkin.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 17, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Hadn’t heard that sentiment yet.
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Word on the street is we’re not supposed to care about or enjoy other accomplishments because they’re not the Cup.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
You heard Ovechkin at the awards last year. Next year, that one, and he pointed to the Cup.
It’s next year.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
At some point do you think the league will start to hand out mercy MVPs to other players the way Karl Malone got his over Michael Jordan?
Matt Carle 4th most deserving MVP? Nik Antropov 7th? Daniel Sedin ahead of Henrik Sedin?!
WTF, OTF?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, but to say that Matt Carle is the fourth-most valuable player to his team in the League doesn’t pass the sniff test, does it?
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That kind of made me raise my eyebrows a bit at their system of determining value. Wouldn’t most of Carle’s value come disproportionately on the PP?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And further, it appears that its simply just based on adjusted +/-, which is a good stat, but not as good as something like GVT or GA ON/OFF 60.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Sum up the 5-on-5, PP, PK and Penalty +/- columns, and you get a Total Impact that each player has had on Goals For & Against over the course of the season.
Seems like it would be equally effective as GVT, but I don’t know.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I know GVT doesn’t take into effect QUALCOMP or QUALTEAM, and this doesn’t either. I like GVT because its a straight up “VORP” type stat that’s easy for me to understand, and is based on some pretty good fundamentals. My only problem with GVT is that it doesn’t take any of the QUAL stats into consideration.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
My problem with GVT, in addition to the QUAL issue you mention, is that it’s not a rate stat. I like my stats rate-y!
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