Wednesday Caps Clips: Sweep in Sunrise
by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 7:02 AM EDT
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win (making the Caps a perfect six-for-six against Florida this season) from the us, the WaPo (blog, gamer), Vogs, D.C. Sports Bog, DCEx, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, RtR, On Frozen Pond (worth a click for the photo), Litter Box Cats, MD Pro Sports, the CAPS lock, A Capital Offense and RMNB.
- Awww, yeah... reppin' in the Sunshine State. [TweetPhoto]
- You can add "the hit didn't cause the damage, the boards caused the damage" to the list of things Bruce Boudreau has said that likely had the Caps PR team instantly smacking their foreheads (with "He's pretty reckless" still the clubhouse leader). [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Sigh. More Alex Ovechkin reactions and whatnot. [TSN, The Hockey News, Mike Wise, PeerlessAlex Ovetjkin]
- By the numbers, AO is your MVP in a walk. [On The Forecheck]
- Watch the debut of "Caps OT" and let me know what you think "OT" stands for. [CSN Washington]
- Congrats to the Caps for being named a finalist for SBJ's Professional Sports Team of the Year. Of course, we all know what they'd rather win. [Capitals]
- Given what today is, I thought I'd trot out this oldie-but-goodie.
- One-and-a-half Caps entries in the latest edition of Jersey Fouls. [Puck Daddy]
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"the hit didn't cause the damage, the boards caused the damage"
Hence the term. “boarding” … God, I love Bruce. No coach in the league is as “unfiltered” as he is.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Technically, he’s correct. If the boards aren’t there, then he slides as long as his momentum carries and doesn’t get hurt.
You can’t get fined if you tell the truth.
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Actually if Campbell doesnt lose his edge, they both go into the boards together and Campbell is still playing.
I’m officially done talking about this topic.
Can we just restrict the convo on the suspension to the other forums where its being discussed? I know its hockey-related, but for everyone’s sanity, that would be a good idea, no?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Couldn’t agree more. And yes, there are links in this post related to it, but for sanity sake… agreed.
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Let’s just drop it, entirely. No more!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I love the Rink
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
VENGEANCE!!!!
Carolina, you’re next.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:16 AM EDT reply actions
And I hope the road trippers represent accordingly.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
eew
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
…on SportsCall with Ken Beatrice…
Gads, I’m showing my age…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
EEEEYYYYYOU’RE NEXT!! On Sportscall!!!
BERNIE STREETER’S ARBY’S RESTUARANT!! NOW, I DON’T LIKE THE FRIES. I CAN’T EAT THEM. PEOPLE TELL ME THEY’RE GREAT!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Was pretty much the soundtrack to my childhood. Dad would listen to Beatrice every night religiously.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I’m not crying. I’ve just got something stuck in my eye.
Signed,
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 17, 2010 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Think I’ve mentioned it before, but his kid coached my 8th-grade baseball team.
Ken Beatrice was money.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Yaw’re entitled to yawr uhpinions, sah…
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That photo at On Frozen Pond (along with the headline — you left that out) is priceless.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I have a framed (probably 24 × 36) black and white of that in my den. What a moment.
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Does this mean Vokoun played the role of David Woodley last night?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:28 AM EDT up reply actions
David Woodley was the QB for the Dolphins in that game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions
And AO would make a fantastic fullback.
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It’s Don McNeal Riggo ran through.
He’s a Baptist Pastor now…
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/eticket/story?page=supervictims&num=3
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My bad. This veered us off-topic.
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No, the person who put the picture and the headline on that story did. But the more I think about it, that idea was probably more painful for Redskins fans than Panthers fans.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
eh, you were just talking about the stuff in the clips.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions
One of those perfect, golden moments of unalloyed joy.
Riggo!
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Fake zoom!
Dave's a killer...Dave's a mess...
by MassCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Good heavens that’s like looking at morse code.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow — DeBoer sat Frolik and Weiss most of the 3rd period – or were they hurt? Weiss usually kills us.
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I was just going to say that…Frolik, Booth and Weiss all just stop there.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions
You have better eyes than me. I missed Booth. That’s even more a mystery.
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Booth picks up again late in the third, but there’s a huge gap there where all three of them are completely off the ice for a significant period of time. Frolik and Weiss never got back in.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:36 AM EDT up reply actions
DeBoer was clearly pissed postgame. Probably sending a message in a game that was, by that point, lost.
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Did it seem like Frolik completely disappeared after Morrisonn blasted him right off the draw? That would be enough to make any coach pretty angry.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:40 AM EDT up reply actions
There may not be a player in the League in more dire need of a serious off-season bulk-up regimen than Michal Frolik. Dude’s a stick, and gets thrown around. If he ever gets big, though, watch out – love his skill.
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I do too. If only for the fact that him and Olesz kill me in NHL 10.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The OFP guy said Be Doer benched them because he’d “had enough” of them. Weiss was -3 through two periods, I point out.
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If he’s had enough of ‘em, we’ll gladly take ’em. Weiss at 2C would make me happy. /daydream
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Yeah. Although if we got Frolik, and put him on a line with Semin, Boudreau’s head would explode.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Frolik/Fleischmann/Semin
Call it the “Agita Line”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions
What are you guys talkin’ about? Semin’s a professional bongo player with a busted lip! HE’S TEAM TOUGH.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions
Seeing Jose’s bar really kinda makes me wish he had joined the rush. Would have been incredibly hilarious.
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No. No no no. No Jose joining the rush. The only time I want to see a goalie hauling ass down the ice is when he’s headed to the bench for a sixth skater.
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Or when he’s skating the length of the rink to join in an awesome line brawl. Miss you, Olie!
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Braden Holtby.
It’s coming.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see that. :-)
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You’re probably right. That’s boy’s got a nasty side, I think, and I like it.
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I like a G who’ll pitch(fork) in on the crease-clearing.
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too.
And that boy has some mad stick skillz, too.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes yes yes. Comedy gold.
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Sadly, I think there’s a rule against goalies crossing the red line.
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Patrick Roy says shush.
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What an awesome moment that was though!
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That would’ve been an epic delayed penalty sequence.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I would like to note that, while I love Theo, I don’t think he can “haul ass.” Watching him skate is like watching molasses move across ice.
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Jose really likes chit-chatting with the linesmen. And not just to complain. Several time you could see him say something, then both he and the linesmen would start to laugh.
"It hit me on the pants. I had protection. It felt good. Why? I wanted to win."
That kind of stuff is fun to watch.
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I just get the sense that Theo is finally getting back to a better place emotionally. He’s not going to ever forget what happened, but he seems more relaxed on the ice. It was painful watching him last December.
Both relaxed and authoritative, if that combo makes sense. There’s been an economy and resilience to his game that we’ve not seen since he’s been here. I think he’s been terrific.
I thought it was awesome that Green went to his house to watch the olympics, sitting there by Jose’s fire…
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Did he? That’s pretty cool. Is there an article on this?
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember seeing it on CI, but can’t find the post.
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http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/mike-green-on-watching-the-oly.html
“Capitals defenseman Mike Green always imagined watching Wednesday’s epic Canada-Russia Olympic hockey game from ice level, a red and white jersey on, and his name stitched to the back. But because he was one of the odd men out when the roster for the Canadian Olympic team was announced last month, Green took in his home country’s 7-3 triumph over Russia on Wednesday in front of a fireplace while sitting in a La-Z-Boy at the home of goalie Jose Theodore.”
by vzotsky on Mar 17, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They both experienced loss this year. I’m not arguing that not making the Olympic team is anything near as bad as losing a baby, but it is still a loss and it was good for Mike to be there.
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they’re also both veterans of the canadian national team (at least at the world championships):
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
YES. This. I’m very happy with Theo’s performance so far this year. :-)
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Caps related, but EC and SE related: Since the trade between New Jersey and Atlanta, Ilya Klvahuck has five goals as 12 points in 13 games with a +4 rating; Niclas Bergfors has six goals and 11 point sin 14 games with a +4 rating and Oduya has five points and +4 rating.
Yeah, but Kovy (aka “Klvahuck”) has 2G, 2A in his last three. An adjustment period was to be expected. If you’d like to wager on productivity going forward, I’m in.
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Sucks for Brian Campbell he’s going to miss the rest of the season with his broken Klvahuck
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 7:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Season? I heard six-eight weeks and no surgery so he could be back mid-May when the Blackhawks should still be playing. Did I hear it wrong?
I dunno. I saw 7-8 weeks but I was trying to make a Klvahuck/Clavicle joke.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s probably going to be a little longer than that, because I don’t think he’s going to be doing much skating in his current state.
Or cycling. Or squatting. Or…
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Gah, this is what I get for posting at 7:48 in the morning.
Agree on Kovalchuk, but that’s a pretty nice (immediate and short term) return for the Thrashers.
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
See, I thought you spelled it the way you did on purpose – no “o”.
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
From Tarik’s Gamer:
Ovechkin has missed four games against the Panthers and two of the teams’ three meetings in South Florida, which didn’t please a throng of local Capitals fans, who held up red and white signs that read “Free Alex” along the glass during warm-ups.
feel the love, JP.
I still have my signs I made up for the Philly game. Was wondering if we should break them out again…..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
They used the same signs, if you look carefully.
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Two rink-branded Free Alex signs were shown and mentioned in the 3rd, cutting away to Ovechkin in the pressbox.
Was it a shot from warmups, or was it in-game? Just curious, so I can FF on the DVR.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Third period. I want to say the score was 6-2, but not certain. 2 signs, 1.5 sign-widths apart. They were the subject of the shot, not a coincidence, then 8 up in the Nacho Nook talking and chuckling with a Steinz impersonator.
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
It might have been the authentic; I was surprised he made the trip last night.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 10:19 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’ve seen that guy before. Thought he was identified then as an assistant to GMGM, but I could be wrong.
Joe B said Alex was up there with the assistant coaching staff when they were both on screen.
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does Steinz wear an ear piece? Cuz this guy definitely was…
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Was definitely not Steinz.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
He looked like Pierre Mcguire’s little brother
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions
It was video coach Blaine Forsythe, if I’m not mistaken.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Mar 17, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
The people sitting behind the Caps bench had them too. Right after Florida scored their first goal one of them was placed right next to Bruce’s head trying to get in the shot. Of course Comcast took the angled shot of the bench and not the direct angle, but you could still see the sign and appreciate the effort.
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You’re welcome. :)
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:45 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You’re welcome. :)
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So nice my cell said it twice.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 11:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Free Alex: The Shirt!
Available in both white (and grey) and red.
Something tells me we might need them again at some point…
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
2010 (consistent with other shirts). Next year’s shirts will have 11 on ’em.
What do you think? Stick with it or make these #8?
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Need? No. But we’d like to get the name on there, and putting it with name and number like a jersey tee looks good, IMO.
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My thought is that the number font isn’t the same as those on the Caps jerseys, so it looks off.
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Our lattitude in that area isn’t great, and the images aren’t very representative of how the end-product looks anyway (not ideal, but it’s what we’ve got).
Would love someone who bought a porcupine tee to post a pic of front and back.
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I bought one.
It hasn’t turned up at my flat yet, though… how long do these things take, anyway?!
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Guess we’re waiting to find out, eh?
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Right, so my personal tastes would say no number over wrong font, but that’s just me being a guy that has to worry about design standards over lots of different properties for a living.
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Buying it as soon as I get home.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me we might need them again at some point…
That’s a slogan worth getting behind.
"I know I was the best CIA agent the CIA ever had, but I thought I told you honkies from the CIA that Black Dynamite was out of the game!"
by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m thinking Ovie’s chances at MVP this year are dwindling for two reasons:
1) The two suspensions might bias people in the voting
2) 7-2 without him, mostly blowouts
I can see number 1 being a problem, but number 2 shouldn’t matter at all, even though it probably will, which is one of the things I HATE about MVP voting.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Do other sports leagues vote for MVP the same way the NHL does? (i.e. MVP of the team and not MVP of the whole league)?
Mostly just based on what I know to be the tendencies of sportswriters
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:15 AM EDT up reply actions
This might draw a lot of flaming here on the rink but I gotta say… I’m surprised Crosby isn’t on that list for the MVP. Malkin and Fleury have been ‘meh’ .. meh..Gonchar’s been descent, but for the first time since Malkin’s rookie season I think Crosby has totally separated himself from the rest of his pack.
He should be. Sid’s a great player.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:26 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not joking when I say this, but what about Backstrom? He won’t win it, but shouldn’t he be in the conversation?
He should be, but he won’t be. Its a popularity contest.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions
The downside of playing with the best player in the world, he takes the spotlight.
Every time the Swedish Swashbuckler scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I think last night was one of those rare circumstances where we got to see just how great Nick is, and how great AO is, because AO was not on the ice. Nick was creating and making chances, but the drop off from AO to Flash was, uh, noticeable.
And seriously, as well as that third line clicked I don’t want to see BB messing with it just to keep his Precioussss in the line up. Flash won’t be on the first line, shouldn’t be on the 3rd line, isn’t a 4th line player, and isn’t a 2C. But I’m sure BB finds a way to shoehorn him into the lineup again when AO is healthy, regardless of how well Chimera/BMo/Fehr keep playing.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, Flash really does seem to be the odd man out here, doesn’t he.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Flash should never be in the 1LW. That should have been Chimera, because that’s replacing like-minded players, IMO. Speed and a hard forecheck.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that I want to see Fehr/BMo/Chimera again. Who knows if it was just because we own FLA, but that line was great and if they play like that regularly they need to stick together.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Chimera was a beast last night. Rico Fata may have been faster, but I swear Chimera is one of the most powerful skaters I’ve ever seen. His stride just chews up the ice and he makes it look effortless. Getting him was a stroke of genius by McPhee.
He looks like he’s working a little harder than Feds did, but he is hell for fast. When they show ice level views, or when you’ve got another skater to compare him to, he covers a shedload of ground.
Agree with all the above that Chimera needs to play on the third line as a regular fixture.
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When they show ice level views, or when you’ve got another skater to compare him to, he covers a shedload of ground.
Seriously. When he gets it in gear, it sometimes looks like an adult skating with eight-year olds. A couple of years ago, the Caps were a team of young kids. Now, they’ve got grown men up and down the lineup. Can we start the playoffs now, please?
And he gets to that top gear in about one or two strides, too.
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There’s nothing better than Chimera dumping it into the zone on a rush for himself. I think that is when he’s most dangerous — if you play him tight, he’s going to beat you to the puck. If you play him loose, you’re going to (hopefully) give up a goal.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
No. Backstrom has no value beyond maybe that of an average third-line center. Really, this year he’s put together is a fluke and unlikely to be repeated or bettered.
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His numbers are due to regress to the mean RSN.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions
It could use a trim, but I think I would be utterly shocked (and disappointed) if Nicky got rid of his charming blond locks altogether.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions
he wouldn’t be Backstrom without them!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Lacking as he does an NHL body, the ability to take over games, and a 9 year extension , I don’t see how you can say such a thing.
If they had a chubby-face All-Star team, Backstrom would be on the first team along with Rick Nash and Ilya Kovalchuk. Nash being the MVP. He looks like he eats Big Macs for breakfast. 2007-2008 Mike Green could play defense. Can’t think of a #2 d-man. Brodeur in net, of course.
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by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poor Rick Nash, stuck out in CBUS… He could be a star I tell you!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, but the hockey community in general won’t be.
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Unfortunately, and I hate to give them credit— they’re going to get much butter. And thats a great city for hockey.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
errrr
Much “better”.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow, you shouldn’t have corrected that. It would’ve been so much butter when I’d discovered it myself!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Nash will like the much butter, that fatty!
Just kidding, he still shouldn’t be stuck in Ohio.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
…which isn’t that bad. As I mentioned.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Have you been to Ohio?
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Look, its not as good as Nashville, but I found Columbus to be pleasant— especially the arena district.
Some people have the same problems with DC, so its really personal opinion. Rick likes it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Yea, because there is nothing to do the DC area, yep.
I respect that he obviously likes it, but that doesn’t mean my personal opinion is he would be better off somewhere else.
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Thats not why I’ve heard people don’t like DC. That’s off-topic though and should be taken here.
I know the Leafs wanted him—but CBJ have a brighter future.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I just hope they continue to trade with us, seems to have worked out pretty well.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s “stuck”. He likes it there, thats why he discounted his extension. Where should he have signed, Toronto?
Like I said, Columbus has proved to be a good hockey town and the Jackets are going to really improve out from under Hitchcock. They’ve got a really good set of young players and a high pick this year.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I just hate Ohio :)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
he still shouldn’t be stuck in Ohio.
Folks said the same about Ovechkin and D.C. Let them have their stud.
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
Mind throwing us a superstar?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:25 AM EDT up reply actions
You had Vokoun and let him go.
And you had Forsberg! :)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah…I’m sure people in Memphis and people in Nashville think their cities are exactly the same.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
DC and Baltimore are the same place, rite?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Stupid, stupid, stupid self imposed cap. I wonder where we’d be if we had kept Vokes.
Didn’t like the Forsberg trade then, don’t like it now. Washed up superstar for a month for two good prospects and picks? WTF?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
They’ll play great games against the Big Nose All-Stars club, captained by former-and-current Capital Milan Jurcina’s nose.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
With Byfuglien battling for a top spot.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Rick Nash looks like the Lost Chipmunk on Steroids
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he is on the list, or at least will be when it’s all said and done. The Pens have made a charge and it’s been mostly him. But I do agree that, if it’s possible, Sid’s having an “under the radar” amazing year. You hear plenty about his goal-scoring, but it pretty much stops there.
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Third in the league in Offensive GVT (behind Ovi and Henrik Sedin), and (for what its worth), is also the best shootout GVT in the game with Brad Boyes, and in overall GVT, he’s second behind Ovi.
Sid should be mentioned in the MVP race anyway, but he’ll win it because of the Olympics, and because he hasn’t had any “incidents”. They won’t give Ovi 3 MVPs in a row. Sounds tinfoil hatty, but with how many media people Ovi made angry at the Olympics (and the writers vote on the Hart), and Sid’s medal winning goal, it’ll go to Sid. I think he’ll win the Hart, and Ovi will win the Pearson.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again.. if Ovie wins the scoring race with 10 less games than everyone else that might hold some weight too. I just disagree with a lot of people that were on the list in that article. My top 5 are
Ovie
Crosby
H Sedin
Miller
Bryz
If there were any justice, people would be mentioning Tomas Vokoun with Miller for Vezina. No one does more with less.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
If Miller didn’t keep pooping in his pants against weak teams, his numbers would be even better. If that were the case, I would put it Miller, then OV, then Sid.
But that is the case, so it will probably be OV, Miller, Sid.
If he keeps pooping his pants against “weak” teams, wouldn’t that mean on some level he’s not as good as has been advertised?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Especially during elimination weeks for my fantasy team…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Why Miller for the Hart?
Then again, why not?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun’s playing better for a worse team.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Stats are so close.
Miller:
.929, 2.21, 5 SO
Vokoun:
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun was at .930 before last night, but Miller also got the Vaudeville hook after giving up 3 goals in the first 4 minutes of the game against Atlanta.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
.930 on the freakin’ Panthers is sick.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions
.930 onthe freakin’ Panthersany team is sick.
Vokoun is the best goaltender in the league. 7 SOs with the Panthers skating in front of him… that’s sicker.
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That is exactly why I would have sold pretty much half of Hershey to get the guy here at the deadline.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun gets more rounds fired at him than you’d see in a Schwartzenegger movie
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Goals/Game
Florida- 2.52
Buffalo- 2.69
PP%
Florida – 15.2
Buffalo – 16.7
Shots/Game
Florida – 28.8
Buffalo – 31.7
Shots Against/Game
Florida – 34.1
Buffalo – 31.6
I mean, i’m taking a few liberties here because Vokoun hasn’t played every single game, but that’s a decent picture of where the two guys are in terms of support.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Vokoun was at .930 before last night
Oh yea? Which band was palying and how’d he make it back so fast?
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by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can only buy off on a G for th Hart in limited circumstances – like, say, a flat out dominant year on a flat out dominant team that doesn’t trap the snot out of the game.
BUF hasn’t been dominant.
Now, if Theo were to have put up a .935 Sv% and a 2.01 GAA with 45 wins or so, then maybe. You can all thank me for the laughter you’ve just enjoyed.
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I would think going performing on a lesser team would make you a bigger Hart candidate (Theo in 01-02). Being the only reason your team makes the playoffs would makes a stronger case for MVP
Well, Goalies are always the most important players on the ice, so they have a built in advantage. I like, just out of personal preference, to reserve the Hart for a skater, except in truly exceptional circumstances.
If you awarded the Hart just based on which player added the most value to his team, it would always be a goalie winning, really.
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If there were any justice, people would be mentioning Tomas Vokoun with Miller for Vezina.
He’s amazingt but (here come the flames) if your team can’t get into the playoffs it seems unlikely you’ll be in the running
Which is unfortunate, because that’s not his fault. Not in the least.
The man has a Save PCT of .930 for the love of Mary. On a shit team. With terrible offensive support (even worse than Buffalo).
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
stats don't lie
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Florida’s goal differential is -23
Buffalo’s is +12.
He gets NO support.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Which list are you talking about? Dirk Hoag has him in the poll but he’s not in the chart, presumably because his numbers aren’t top 15 in the league by those metrics.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
Measuring who the most valuable to his team was did not yield Crosby.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
huh?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Suggesting that Sid isn’t among those players most valuable to his team.
They’re not sniffing a playoff berth this year, let alone a division championship, if he’s not playing.
Does this system of ratings also factor in salaries in determination of value? That’s a pretty big indicator.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, that’s silly. They’re still a playoff team without Crosby.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. Defending Cup champs.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
MVP awards don’t matter… there’s only one trophy that matters, and that the big silver one (Shiny!) that you get on the ice in June… and they’ll give that one to Ovechkin.
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Hadn’t heard that sentiment yet.
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Word on the street is we’re not supposed to care about or enjoy other accomplishments because they’re not the Cup.
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You heard Ovechkin at the awards last year. Next year, that one, and he pointed to the Cup.
It’s next year.
Let's go Caps!
At some point do you think the league will start to hand out mercy MVPs to other players the way Karl Malone got his over Michael Jordan?
They already started doing it with the Norris, so why not.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Matt Carle 4th most deserving MVP? Nik Antropov 7th? Daniel Sedin ahead of Henrik Sedin?!
WTF, OTF?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, but to say that Matt Carle is the fourth-most valuable player to his team in the League doesn’t pass the sniff test, does it?
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That kind of made me raise my eyebrows a bit at their system of determining value. Wouldn’t most of Carle’s value come disproportionately on the PP?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
And further, it appears that its simply just based on adjusted +/-, which is a good stat, but not as good as something like GVT or GA ON/OFF 60.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Sum up the 5-on-5, PP, PK and Penalty +/- columns, and you get a Total Impact that each player has had on Goals For & Against over the course of the season.
Seems like it would be equally effective as GVT, but I don’t know.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions
I know GVT doesn’t take into effect QUALCOMP or QUALTEAM, and this doesn’t either. I like GVT because its a straight up “VORP” type stat that’s easy for me to understand, and is based on some pretty good fundamentals. My only problem with GVT is that it doesn’t take any of the QUAL stats into consideration.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
My problem with GVT, in addition to the QUAL issue you mention, is that it’s not a rate stat. I like my stats rate-y!
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It doesn’t seem like it would be that difficult to kinda “reinvent” the GVT formula and take into effect the QUALs
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I like counting stats as long as they are given some context by rate stats. And vice-versa, to tell you the truth. Showing up consistently helps pad your counting stats, but showing up is part of the deal.
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I agree with this, and I’ll add that Player Contribution is my go-to.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
Seems fishy. Here’s what he said about Carle:
Matt Carle & Chris Pronger: Since this defensive duo often plays together in Philadelphia, their results can be difficult to separate from each other, although Pronger stands out as the #2 defenseman in PP impact.
Remember, the Hart is for the player most valuable to HIS team, not the best player in the league, so while its strange, its not inconceivable that Antropov is that valuable to Atlanta.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Which goes straight to the question of QUALTEAM and QUALCOMP.
Carle plays with the best teammates against the worst competition among Flyers’ defensemen. And that’s mainly (I would say) because Pronger can’t skate well enough any longer to be the main shutdown guy like Timmonen and Coburn.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Crap…I read that wrong.
Timonen and Coburn play with worse teammates against better comp.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Another way to look at this… If Carle, having more “value” to his team that Jonathan Toews has to his, was absent from the lineup, the effect of his absence would be a larger reduction in the Flyers’ performance than what would be the case with the Blackhawks if Toews was absent.
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would be forgivable if he had a guy walking next to him with a jersey that read “SWEEET”
Google translated
Here we go again, sitting at the airport and will fledge off to Hershey again. Will speak tonight if I have time and strength to where I tell a bit more precise about what has happened.
I have a C on my heart.
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by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Me too – I don’t see any indication he isn’t, although illness is running through the Bears’ locker room, according to a Tweet I saw yesterday…
hersheybears (via @pasports) Illness still hitting Hershey Bears http://bit.ly/dmo0Si #hbh
They don’t list Perreault as damaged in any way in the article.
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Hopefully his earlier bought with the flu will spare him this round. He better be playing in Norfolk next month, is all I’m gonna say.
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Not much of a consolation, unfortunately. Now if Johansson made his way over..
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I think I read somewhere that he ended up 10-10-20 and even, which is good for a player that young in Elitserien.
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10 g 10 a 10 PIM, even +/-. Very Swedish of him, I’d say. (was in the Farm Report —>)
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It’s just like when John Carlson got a chance to play in Hershey last year when his ohl team were done for the season but in this case it’s a prospect from allsvenskan instead. Just an oppurtunity for the organization to look at their prospects, I think.
is the season over?
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 9:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I’m seeking some clarification from the team as to exactly what this means.
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Cool.
I wonder if he’ll play tonight?
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Yeah, I guess not if he’s literally still on his way.
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I wonder if he plays at all. He could just be the first Black Ace.
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Perhaps they’ll move him to the Rays, with Joe Finley and Josh Godfrey…
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by Gould Old Days on Mar 17, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Godfrey is concussed and Finley has a busted hand:
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/mar/11/maclean-may-tap-collegiate-talent/
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If this doesn’t send a great big EFF YOU to the league, nothing will.
Right now, I am gunning for this team walking away with every single trophy out there, from the individual awards to the Presidents’ Trophy right on up to Lord Stanley’s Cup. I want to see this be Ben Hur up against Plan 9 from Outer Space for Best Picture – rolling over the competition like the chariot race in the latter.
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Pitt @ NJD tonight – big game.
Pitt @ Boston tomorrow – Matt Cooke pays the piper (maybe)…
Interesting couple of days.
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And in both games, I am cheering for anyone but Crosby to come up with a goal.
I would like *cough*choke*cough* to see Pittsburgh win their division, if only because that means the soonest we can see them is the conference finals, and that gives two other teams the chance to eliminate them before we have to face them.
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I want to win the cup and dont care who we beat to get there…but winning the Cup through Pittsburgh is icing on the cake…I’m not gonna say I dont want to see them in the playoffs. Bring it…
I would like to slaughter the Penguins in the conference finals.
But the demoralizing blow to the fans if we fail again would be unbearable. So many fans view the Caps through so much history, where the Penguins have perpetually been the obstacle… and yes, it would be sweet to eliminate them on our way to the Cup… but I still feel like we need to win the cup just this once without having to deal with that pressure. Then we can slaughter the Penguins all we want.
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He will have to fight, maybe more than once. There is absolutely no way, after the s-storm of criticism the team got for not responging to the Savard hit, that he’ll get off without some payback. However, for those expecting a street brawl, that’s not happening. Boston needs those two points badly.
Screw a street brawl. I just hope someone’s giving Cooke the business on every. single. shift, until the whole team’s had a turn. League seems to hold ‘self-policing’ in high regard, so there’s no reason B’s cant have some payback and the points: just make sure to issue plenty of (legal!) headshots.
His face is going to smell like glove by the end of the night.
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eh
I don’t know, deserved retribution doesn’t seem to happen as much. You think PIT will scratch him?
Again, I don’t think much will come of it.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s just prolonging the inevitable if they do..
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Lucic v. Cooke? Thornton vs. Cooke?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Cooke dies in either of those fights.
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I know. /tent’s fingers
Those are the two most likely partners, though, right?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Unless Chara wants to be Mr. Captain and TCB like Kolzilla suggested.
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Any one of those fights would be uuuuuuuuugly. Deservedly so.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I think if he does someone should pull him off the ice and keep punching.
If I’m Claude Julien, this is happening at the opening faceoff or the first time Cooke is on the ice. Last year Alex Burrows jumped about 18 inches into the air and hit JP Dumont in the head and concussed him— completely illegal. Trotz had Tootoo out at 0:02 of the next matchup, and he TCB and they moved on. Much better that way.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s uncomfortably close to a staged fight and those are against the rules. Blind side head shots, baby. That’s where it’s at.
/campbell’d
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
for kicks and giggles
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
He’ll make them angrier if he doesn’t engage them. That works to Pittsburgh’s favor.
Hell, if I were Pittsburgh, I’d HS him just to make everyone angry.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions
If I were Pittsburgh, I’d burn myself up.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah, if you HS him then BOS moves on and plays hockey. You want him in the lineup so BOS is preoccupied with trying to take his head off; but Bylsma gives him strict instructions not to fight.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
If he doesn’t fight he’s going to get killed.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
People have said that about him for years.
Q: What do I like most about Matt Cooke?
A: Only one of his “highlights” is in a Caps jersey.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
They interviewed Thornton on a Boston radio show last Thursday. They were talking in code so that Thornton wouldn’t get in trouble and using the term “eating a grilled cheese” to stand for fighting. Thornton had two interesting statements (paraphrased below)
1. (to the question of are you going to have a grilled cheese with Cooke): I can’t have a grilled cheese with someone if they refuse to come to the table. And he has a reputation of not liking grilled cheese.
2. (to the question of can you force him to eat a grilled cheese with you): There’s a good chance someone else will come in and eat the grilled cheese instead.
Funny you ask that. Melrose was on PTI last night, and this is a good thing, when he can get the boys off the ledge. I could be getting my sources confused, but I think he said he’d scratch him. Then again, last time Melrose was a coach, how’d that go? (and if you scratch Cooke, someone else ends up taking the brunt of it, no?)
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I believe Melrose said they should consider scratching their stars so that they don’t get roughed up in retaliation. I think that was the question he was responding to.
That his turnover came when he was buying time for a line change, makes everything he did after that….Meaner.
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That and he’s likely to have glass prints and the dim echo of GEICO letters all over him from being stapled into the boards all night.
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“2 minutes for Unsportsmanlike Cleverness.”
“WELL WORTH IT.”
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
always will be.
The only Flyer I could stand and he’s gotta set an example for Heatley. Too soon?
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Fighting is so weak, I’d rather see him get repeatedly crushed into the boards, get decleated in open ice, generally get manhandled in a legal but punishing way. No need for eye for an eye, but don’t let him forget what he did.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
How about both?? If Boston misses the playoffs by a hair, it is probably because Savard wasn’t playing.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
My problem with fighting is that it’s such a side show. The hits are weak and at best you keep 2 guys off the ice for 5 minutes. I’d rather him be out there to receive full bodied punishment. I feel like taking Cooke out for the season, while it would be beneficial on paper, it’s heartless, in poor taste and lacks any spirit of sportsmanship. At some point someone needs to be a bigger person.
Suspend Colin Campbell!
No one’s advocating taking him out for the year. I’d disagree that the “hits” in fighting are weak. Talk to a guy who gets his faced bashed in repeatedly— they’re effective, no doubt. Would Cooke learn his lesson? No, probably not. Would all of Boston feel better? Yup.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Can’t say that I’d blame them. I was going to feel the same way after the Dumont hit. I wonder if Washington and Chicago meet in the SCF…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions
They deserve to see some justice enacted. What a horrible year it’s been for Bruins fans. There’s nothing quite like watching a Stanley Cup contender fall so far that they have to fight tooth and nail for the eighth seed the next year.
Eh. They’ll have a top 5 pick in the first and second rounds this year and Toronto’s first next year. I think they’ll be just fine.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions
It would be fun but CHI only has Eager and Burrish and guys like that to bring toughness. They can go after AO all they want, but neither of those clowns is going to be able to touch him in actually hockey play. And he shouldn’t/won’t fight either of those guys so whatever.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Does AO have any fighting majors?
I was just pointing it out because of the retribution aspect.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He fought Richards in the pre-season once.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He also has one from the 06-07 season as part of the aftermath from the Briere hit. But it really wasn’t deserved.
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this. Boston may not fight – they can’t risk the instigator, they need all the points they can get. But he can still leave the ice knowing the Bruins don’t like him very much without a fight or three. Push him into the net. Throw him into either bench a few times (Boston bench preferable for a little more friendly abuse). Make sure he becomes intimately familiar with every board, every ad, every pane of glass, all night long. His face should smell like hockey gloves by the end of the night.
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The Bruins can’t risk an instigator going short handed for a vendetta unless the game is out of hand one way or the other. They’re playing for their playoff lives right now. They need points first. Cooke can wait.
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I don’t know about that. I think mentally it might help if they get that out of the way. Its not hard, and if Cooke has any class he’ll do like Mike Richards (funny hearing class and Mike Richards in the same sentence) and oblige them.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
but Mike Richards probably has more class than Matt Cooke. (and I’m not exactly a fan on Richards)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The Bruins can’t risk an instigator going short handed
This is why they should serve up some blind-side head shots. All the damage, and none of that pesky PIM! Cheap, satisfying, and legal blind side head shots—stock up tonight!
by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
How’d you all feel about Joe Corvo’s game last night?
20:58 of ice time was good for #2 on the team, with 3:32 of that coming on the power play (same as Green). Joe was on the ice for 3 goals for (2 PP) and 1 against. All while playing his even strength time next to a AAAA-level defensive partner.
Perhaps the weakest link in the Corvo-Poti pairing isn’t Joe Corvo…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
Corvo looked pretty good last night, IMO. It looks like he’s starting to click with the system. Maybe he’s a game or two behind the rest of the new acquisitions, but I think he’ll do just fine. :-)
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I’d noticed it before, but Corvo’s speed is ridiculous, and it shined last night. I just want him to get a goal so that he’s got the taste.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps, though in my opinion not likely. Not yet, at least. For now, the weakest link in the Corvo-Poti pairing is… the hyphen.
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
I only watched the first two periods, but I thought he was only OK. He rushed the puck a few times and generally seemed a little more nervous with the puck than I’d expect from a guy with his skill set and experience. That said, I absolutely love how he gets his shot off and on net through traffic; it directly led to a Laich PPG. And of course, you’ll get no argument from me about that last line.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Clemmensen
Remember when people thought he was capable of being a starting goaltender?
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Panthers D did nothing to help either guy. Caps in the crease all night long.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Rinne looked like Vokoun last night. An incredible performance. Kinda pissed he didn’t have an NHL star last night, really, but Laich, Ribeiro (ugh) and Tavares all had big point totals.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Ribs for nobody’s pleasure.
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by jordanDC on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No kidding.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Continuing with the 2010 Sports Business Awards story, there are four candidates for a Professional Sports League of the Year: MLB, NBA, NFL and…….Professional Bull Riders. No NHL. Surprise!
Sounds like a knowledgeable group picked the nominees.
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Does anyone here think the NHL deserves to be nominated?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
In terms of the sport they represent, yes – but not in terms of how they represent the sport.
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It’s not a vote on best sport, it’s a vote on best league. Hockey is a great sport and the product on ice has never been better. But the league is run terribly. They absolutely don’t deserve any award, recognition, or nomination.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed. A Spazzie.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it just me, or does it seem like Buffalo is going to make a quick playoff exit?
Read this on PD:
The Sabres have just one victory in their last 11 road games
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah, I don’t think I’m as scared as I might have been pre-Olympics.
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Although if Michael Leighton’s high ankle sprain turns out to be pretty bad, the Flyers exit could be even quicker.
That would leave them Brian Boucher and Johan Backlund for the playoffs.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Ottawa is also struggling pretty bad. The East is starting to look very weak right now. I’m a little embarrassed, Chris Burton is watching!
heh
We knew the East was weak. Put it this way— the Preds are the 3 seed in the East right now.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
You guys need to get realign’d so bad.
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Should have started in the East. If that ever happens, it’ll change the course of the franchise. I can’t imagine if we got to play the Rangers four times a year instead of the Sharks. Whoooo!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, it would make it harder to root for the Preds.. stay where you are.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The Preds aren’t really a hateable team, though. We don’t annoy, we don’t play dirty, our special teams suck, we just work. Its kinda endearing.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Mr. Bird thinks the Preds are a hateable team! but you knwo how those Wings fans are, they hate everyone.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh man, that sucks about the BJs.
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And can’t understand why everyone else hates them.
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they’re almost as provincial as Yankees fans.
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Yankees fans know why they are hated, they just tend to revel in it. I get the impression DET fans actually think the hate is misplaced.
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Let’s relocate the Pens to the West? Sooner or later, I think a rivalry could be built up between the Pens and Blue Jackets, since there’s no love lost between Ohio people and Pittsburgh due to football, both college and pro.
Move the Preds to the SE and move the Caps to the Atlantic to take the Pens’ place. So, I give you guys the Conference third seed — by default.
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duh
I figured everyone knew that, but then again we may have been considered a SE team.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re going to be quicker in any case. Leighton sucks, Boucher’s worse, and Backlund doesn’t inspire confidence in the least.
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I really hope the Penguins end up facing Montreal instead of Philly. I don’t see the Flyers doing much against Pittsburgh (or anyone else, but especially Pitt).
Backlund’s apparently never played an NHL game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I too would much rather see MTL get Pittsburgh. Tough place to play, and MTL has GREAT special teams. I think Pittsburgh wins it, but that would be a really tricky series for them, and I think it goes 7.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
The Habs, pfft. They aren’t going anywhere unless Halak gets hot. The East is PIT, WSH, and then a bunch of 8 seeds all smashed together.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they’re going anywhere, but they would give Pittsburgh a really tough matchup.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
probably
Because what I’ve seen of their power play (when Bergeron and Cammalleri were there) was freaking awesome.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions
No. 2 in the league. 23.5 pct. Pittsburgh’s is 21st.
PK is a wash. MTL’s is 83.4, Pittsburgh’s is 83.5
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
That PP discrepancy would be huge.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions
Speaking of PK,
Buffalo’s PK at home is 91.3%. On the Road its 80.4%. Holy cow.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Paul Holmgren frantically searches his desk,
“Where the hell did I put the number for that Esche guy?”
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Manny Fernandez ftw
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Somebody dig up Roman Czechmanek
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
you called?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Somebody dig upRoman CzechmanekPelle Lindbergh
Too soon?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I believe it starts with 7-812
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They were playing pretty brutal hockey even before the break. Miller called out the team in an interview prior to the Olympics. They are 8-17 in their last 25 games.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions
Hypothetical
Not to be to presumptuous (or to be read as a jinx) since it was the Panthers we were playing, and they just looked bad. But how good do you think the Caps would be for a whole season with the team they had on the ice last night and Alex Ovechkin never existed?
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I shudder to think about what might have been if the lottery balls had bounced wrong and we had ended up with Cam Barker at 3.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
top heavy draft
OV, Malkin, then whoosh off the cliff to Barker, Ladd, Wheeler, and Montoya. Ouch.
Even if the Caps had ended up with Malkin it woulda been worse.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Ladd’s pretty good.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Not top five pick good.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
We’d still have had Green and Schultz, potentially, though if they’d taken Barker at 3, things could have been HORRIBLE.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Caps would have gotten Barker if they hadn’t won the lottery. That thought makes me want to cry.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m more upset that we took Mikhail Yunkov one pick before Boston took David Krejci
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Slam dunk in AO, shrewd with Green and Schultz, but the rest of that draft (excl. A. Gordon) was uninspired. That carried over into 2005, but their scouting from 2006-on has been worlds better.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Oscar Hedman FTW!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
You’ll notice that says “Oscar” and not “Victor.” :-P
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had a good laugh when the Rags picked Montoya 6th overall. He was inconsistent and so overrated in college. I always thought Jimmy Howard was a much better NCAA goalie during Montoya’s time at Michigan.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they really perceived that Lundqvist would blow up like he did.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t think it was a dumb pick because the Rangers didn’t need a goalie. I thought it was a dumb pick because Montoya wasn’t very good, and certainly wasn’t worth being picked 6th overall.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
But he was a stud for USA in the WJC!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
For one WJC at least…
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Did he play in 2?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, he was craptastic in 2005 when the US defended their gold by not medaling at all.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Kooky Idea of the Day
Sit Nicky next game. Why?
1. Someone has to.
2. Could use a day off because his extra Olympic hockey ice time.
3. His soul mate is gonna miss the game so there’s no chemistry to disrupt.
Keep BMo Beast Fehr and 21-18-28 intact, let Flash and Steckel center the other two lines, mix and match, lather, rinse, repeat.
Who’s with me?
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Space cadet indeed.
No thanks!
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by jordanDC on Mar 17, 2010 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No thanks indeed. I want to guarantee home ice advantage for the playoffs!
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
NO! It will disrupt Backy’s late season charge for the Art Ross award ;) I jest
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
No chance. Nick has never missed an NHL game, and he’s certainly not going to snap that streak with a healthy scratch.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody’s concerned with the extra Olympic games having an adverse affect should the Caps get, say 25 games deep into the playoffs?
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by bilspacecadet on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
How about a break after we beat the first round opponent in 4 games? I think that’ll be just fine.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
If they weren’t all twelve years old, I’d be concerned about it. But with various chips on their shoulders, heedless youth on their side, and that damned elusive trophy in sight, these Caps won’t feel fatigue in May (June? Please, God: June?)
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by redlineblue on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I would never ask Backstrom to sit as a healthy scratch as long as his streak is going.
That would be like asking Cal Ripken to sit down.
Ain’t gonna happen.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions
What was the average TOI for Jarvis? Perhaps not about ~20 min/game that Nicky collects, he was mainly on PK. The probability of an injury certainly increases with TOI (not that I want Nicky to get injured) plus the first line attracts the most tough opposition. But if he can pull it out into say 500, that would be just unbelievable.
Nobody’s concerned with the extra Olympic games having an adverse affect should the Caps get, say 25 games deep into the playoffs?
Any other player, maybe. Backstrom seems to be an iron man.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m mostly not concerned because they didn’t really have that many extra games. 4 apiece over two weeks doesn’t worry me.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely not, that 1st line falls apart without him.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re starting an NHL team, and you have to pick one or the other:
Nick Backstrom or Evgeni Malkin?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Assuming that you have no other players on the roster yet.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom. Because he is my favourite player in the league.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom. He has more overall upside and consistency. If Malkin played like he did last year all the time, I would choose him without question, but he’s too inconsistent. Backstrom is also significantly better defensively.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Is this before or after I’ve seen them play? Because Malkin had way more fanfare coming into the draft.
Backstrom, in a heartbeat.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
In a fantasy draft where you have to pick one or the other to start with. If you play this scenario before they hit the NHL, I’m taking Malkin. Afterwards, you take Backstrom.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Absotively. I think it’s a tougher choice if it’s Crosby, but they do things very differently. Considering i have experience with Backstrom, and that Crosby isn’t outperforming him, I think I’d still take Backstrom. Especially with Mean Lars coming to the forefront more often.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom v. Sid is a much tougher argument
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
uh, yeah
Sorry, Nick is my favorite Cap, but Crosby > Backstrom. Easy choice.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s so tough. Backstrom can literally apply his game to anyone, in somewhat the same way that Crosby does, but Nick is way less flashy.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
So if some are saying Backstrom > Crosby, is it time to look at Lars as the 2nd best player in the league?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely. Have you seen Nicky with the puck? :-)
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
So basically the Caps have the league’s two best players and the Pens have the other two.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That’s why half the fun about being shitty is being shitty at the right time!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
beat me to it
Poor Leafs, too. But not really.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, do you disagree? I mean, top 4 players are spread between the two teams, regardless of order, aren’t they?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Sure seems that way. As much as the “who’s better” argument gets beat to death it is interesting.
Who’s fifth? Sedin? Ryan Miller?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Parise and Kopitar are pretty good.
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Parise yes
Kopitar, pfft. Many players I’d put before him.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I’ll amend: Do you think the top 4 NHL players play for those two teams, respective to their roles?
I thought about it, and Nash has the potential to be a more effective player than any of them beside AO, while one-on-one, I probably take Sid over anyone, due to his strength, speed, etc. But Nicky’s the most creative player in the league, bar none (Sasha isn’t far behind).
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
The more I think about it, the more that seems true. Its probably Ovechkin, Crosby, Backstrom, and Malkin. But I have to think that each player is better because of the other being on their team.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d argue that in concern to both Malkin and Backs. Backs does his shit no matter who is or isn’t on the ice. Malkin I don’t think gets a pass because Crosby gets better coverage, because I think they’re equally targeted.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Is Ovechkin as productive away from Backstrom? We may never know, but that would shed serious light on how good Nick is.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He had 106 and 96 points in two seasons w/out him entirely. I’d say so.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Not in the NHL.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
oh
d’oh. I thought you were talking about Nick.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Nick only had 11 goals 3 years ago!!!!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions
P. Datsyuk would like a word w/ all of you..
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Sort of. Some days he’s not the best two-way player on his own team.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Well, when you’ve got Zetterberg..
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And Lidstrom.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s the (undeserved) dark horse. He’s practically the same player with more defensive experience as Backstrom. I don’t think he’s better than Backstrom, though, and, if he is, he won’t be for much longer.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
And, referring to the original point, I wouldn’t start a team with him.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Pavs can’t pass like Backstrom, not even close.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
On his good days, he’s the same if not better.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
The consistency is Backs’ main strength.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
If we’re talking about right now, Backstrom is also 9 years younger than Datsyuk.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Right, I absolutely wouldn’t start and attempt to build a team around Datsyuk.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
About what aging and long playoff runs does? Two years ago I’d listen. After watching this year and the Olympics he can sit on his coach and pout.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that so far from Pens fans saying they have the league’s two best players?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Top 5 for sure, but I’m not buying 2nd best yet.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Some of it, though, is the change in position at the top, there. I think Malkin is top 5 when on his game, but he certainly hasn’t been this season. Nick is consistent, and he’s only going to be better in his 4th and 5th years.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom is definitely not as good of a player as Crosby, but one may be able to make the argument in a few years. We’ll see if his faceoffs and goal scoring continue to develop the way Crosby’s did. But his vision and defensive play is at least on par with Crosby.
I would take Backstrom over Malkin though. He doesn’t have the size or flash of Malkin but he is a far more well-rounded player. Backstrom is way more consistent and Malkin isn’t even close to Backstrom in terms of defensive responsibility. And while Backstrom is mediocre at faceoffs, Malkin is downright horrid (40.4%!). Malkin is an incredible offensive talent, but he doesn’t bring the other aspects of the game or intangibles to the table to put him in the best center or best player conversation.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I think at 5 years in the league, Backstrom could very well be better. They’re different players, though: Backstrom will never be the rough and tumble in the crease player that Crosby is, but I don’t think that makes Crosby better or Backs worse.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t call Crosby rough and tumble in the crease. He is strong enough to handle some abuse, but he generally doesn’t have to. He gets his goals from incredible net crashing instincts that allow him to get lost and show up at the right time for easy tap ins behind the D. It’s much different from say, Knuble, grinding out goals in front by fighting for position and hacking away at rebounds.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
And out of AO/Baxter/Crosby/Malkin, Malkin is easily the worst skater of the bunch. You all know how I feel about that. Between being the worst skater and most inconsistent player, Malkin drops to 4th in those rankings for me.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions
If I’m offered the choice between Crosby and Backstrom I have to take Sid. Better goalscorer, better defensively (although Backstrom’s closing the gap), more physical, better on faceoffs, and a proven winner. Backstrom is a better passer but not by much.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I would probably go Sid too, but to play devil’s advocate, Backy isn’t in a role where he HAS to score goals like Sid does.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions
That’s true. Then again, that speaks to the quality of Sid’s linemates. Backstrom has the best player in the league on his wing and a perfect complimentary winger, whereas the Pens are still trying to find the right wingers for him.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
and Team Canada gave Sid the very best wingers in all of the Great Frozen North and he still didn’t create the same insta-chemistry Nick manages with anyone he plays with. It’s not entirely “Sid doesn’t have good wingers” imo.
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by RedBirdie on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
Not buying the winger thing anymore. If you can’t work with Rick Nash and Jarome Iginla you can’t work with anyone.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nick doesn’t create “insta-chemistry.” He’s struggled before when not placed with his normal wingers.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Coulda fooled me. He liked Alfredsson and Eriksson OK. :P
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m talking about in the NHL. And their chemistry didn’t do Sweden much good. :P
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think he does, now. He certainly didn’t in his rookie year, and last year, he had Kozlov to contend with. If he’s the main playmaker, I think he can do it with anyone (Sweden being evidence to that fact).
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d take Nick for the contract. Easy decision.
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Not so easy after this summer, I’m betting. Maybe a little easier, but not a lot.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
6.5 or so is a lot better than 8.7 for how comparable the two players are.
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I’m not sure it’s going to be so low…
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
I think it’ll average out to around there.
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I certainly hope so, but I’m not putting money on it.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
eff
Thats low for what I’ve seen of him and his numbers. He’s got two less points than Sid.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Except that I would bet Crosby takes a HUGE hometown discount to stay in PIT long term and save some money so they can build around him. It’s already too late for AO to do that and I’m not that confident Backstrom does it. I honestly won’t be shocked in the least if Crosby takes a pay cut on his next contract. I hope he gets a raise though…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Are any of you concerned Backstrom doesn’t re-sign?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Concerned as in “we are in a much worse spot without him”, yes. Concerned that it might not happen? No. It’ll happen, the only question is the amount. He might sign and handcuff us but he’s worth it.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
He would get an obscene amount of money on the open market and immediately become a lead dog instead of a second banana.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nick doesn’t seem like the top dog type.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell, he carried the entire country of Sweden.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
No, Foppa and the Sedins took most of the media burden.
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If they pay him an obscene number, they might take a big fall. Or, they might not.
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by red army line on Mar 17, 2010 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Not really; they have one contract for a “Designated Player” that the league will cover up for $400k for, the team handles the rest. Aside from that contract, all teams work under a cap of (I believe) $2m, which the $400k counts against.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 17, 2010 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions
What makes you so confident Crosby will take a huge discount?
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I can feel it in my bones. (Give me sympathy.)
I mean he hasn’t paid rent… ever. He has enough money. He has endorsements out the wazzoo. He is going to get sick of playing with scubs; at some point he’ll want some help. He’s a God in Pittsburgh. I see him doing the Tom Brady thing. Like I said, I hope I’m wrong. I can’t cite to any source that confirms it, I just think it’ll happen.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, the endorsements might be what allows him to do that. Plus, the +reputation he gets from such an event would bump his endorsements further. It’s possible. But I don’t know about a “huge” discount. A discount, sure. But he’s not going to be playing for peanuts, cap-wise.
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I could see him signing for 6 mill a year until he retires. Didn’t Michael Jordan take a relatively low NBA contract so the Bulls could pay for a supporting cast because he was already making tons of money in endorsements?
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jordan was making more than $30MM per season in NBA contract money at the end of his career.
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Right. The Bulls paid him at the end of his career, but during his prime when they won all those titles he wasn’t making market value.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t really need to between endorsements and such.
Also, isn’t that also hurt by the fact that he took off to play baseball a few years in his prime?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea really. I don’t follow the NBA at all. I just remember hearing that Jordan took less salary than he could have demanded so that the Bulls could be a great team instead of him and some scrubs.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone know what Ovi has by way of endorsements? Particularly any outside North America?
I know he’s got CCM and Energizer in Canada, but not much else as far as I know.
He signed with IMG in the fall to some fanfare, but I haven’t seen anything come from that.
by Gin and Tonic on Mar 17, 2010 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s also got his own line of clothing…
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If he wins a cup, his endorsements will go sky-high. Until then, he won’t make the mega-bucks outside of his contract.
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by Gin and Tonic on Mar 17, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll get taken to town for this, but I think in terms how they bring what they bring (they have different strengths), I think they’re just about equivalent (hell, in 2 years, I think Backs is a better player than Crosby).
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I agree with this. I think 87 also takes such a pounding that he’s going to wear down a lot longer before Backy does.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
But, but Backstrom gets the brain pain!
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He also doesn’t have guys trying to twist him into an Auntie Annie pretzel every night.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Crosby doesn’t really take much pounding (on the ice! Huzzah!) because he’s so good at avoiding direct shots. I think he’ll be more durable than AO if his wonky groin holds up.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I disagree with this totally. Crosby is hands-down the second best player in the NHL right now. If Nick is ever as good as Sid is in their primes, I’ll be beside myself with glee. The delta is shrinking, but I really don’t see 19 catching 87.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 17, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to disagree, DP. I’d trade Backstrom straight up for Crosby in a minute – leaving salary cap considerations out of the equation, of course.
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by S h a g g y on Mar 17, 2010 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Would be interesting. Does someone wish to photoshop Ovi and Knuble into the roles? We have both Darth Vader (Ovi) and Obi Wan Kenobi (Knuble) on our team, that’s if you believe Mike Wise.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
No way. Backstrom is much better for the Caps. EVen if you think Crosby>>>Backstrom, Backstrom fits in the playfull Caps system, Crosby wouldn’t as well.
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
Crosby is fantastic at give-and-go type stuff and skating through the zone with speed, finding targets and creating in transition. Crosby would fit just fine here, thank you very much.
I’m with f_d, I pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat. No questions asked.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 17, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Backstrom. More skilled. Malkin’s taken a really big step back this year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I mean, Backstrom’s OT winner against Chicago was about as skilled a hockey play as you can make. Its almost impossible to top.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Take into account he was at the end of like a 3-minute shift.. I was going bonkers.
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I have seriously NEVER seen anything like that before. I was in awe.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I loved how he got up after being hit, started to go pick up his stick, but then said “fuck it, I just ended the game” and accepted all his hugs.
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And he was so visibly exhausted. His body said “YES I JUST SCORED” but his face said “I need to pass out….NOW”
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
No “me first” celebrations snubbing his teammates like that Real American Hero.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Poor awkward hug guy.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 17, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What? Whatever are you talking. about. Did I miss some kind of graphic representation of All-American Hockey Goodness?
There has never been one of those here...
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by Ovechwin on Mar 17, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Have we figured out who that guy was yet? Kinda looks like D’Amigo but I’m not even close to positive.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
this one's easy
Eric Staal!
have any of you people even seen a chicken?
by Ridley me this on Mar 17, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions
flagged! Needlessly baiting F&B!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Ah…no.
In addition to all the other objections, why push Flash to C, and 1C at that?
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Plus, GMGM can use it as a weapon in negotiations. “Nick is good, but we did have to healthy scratch him late in the year… he’s got work to do.”
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Playoff Match-ups! Finally seeing some stability here, although those bubble teams remain just a loss or two away from golfing in April.
EAST
(p)Washington vs. Boston
Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia
Buffalo vs. Montreal
New Jersey vs. Ottawa
WEST
San Jose vs. Detroit
Chicago vs. Nashville
Vancouver vs. Los Angeles
Phoenix vs. Colorado
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Interesting….
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
love it
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides San Jose-Detroit, that’s not really any heavy travelling for any of the teams
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
the Sharks would be so screwed
In that matchup.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Then I say bring it on
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
you know with Detroit diaspora community throughout the US is rooting for that. They’d lvoe to watch their team bounce SJS in the first.
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I’d be happy with that lineup if the season ended today, because I think it would really be the equivalent match-ups of what you expect those seeds to be.
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Avs vs Yotes = Mueller vs Wolski in a Whiteout cage match.
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Everyone who said Mueller just needed a change of scenery is looking pretty good right now.
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If my math is correct, Edmonton can no longer make the playoffs. Their maximum number of points is 73, and the Flames have 80.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Wow. That’d be a great set of matchups.
Looking at the East in that scenario, I think MTL upsets if BUF continues as they are. OTT might upset depending on which Brodeur they get. the other two probably will not.
The West is trickier. I wouldn’t bet against DET, especially not after watching SJS last night. CHI’s fate depends on whether they can get their goaltending sorted and on whether Nick Boynton can replace Col – er, Brian Campbell adequately. I think VAN can probably take LA, though it’d be a long series. PHX – COL is hard to call, but PHX has more veteran players on it and that might be the difference. COL is uber-young.
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Hey, question for you guys. If you’re Boston, are you really wanting to get out of that 8th seed or do you just care about making the dance at this point?
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Gotta figure teams are not too thrilled about playing either WAS or PIT. Pick your poison, if you’re Boston…
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Difference there being that PIT isn’t guaranteed the division. Get 7th and you get one of PIT or NJD, which means a reasonable chance of landing a better draw. The odds of anyone catching the Caps in the East at this point are fairly slim.
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Damned if you do and damned if you don’t, I guess. I’d say Boston’s best shot is to try to shoot for that 7th seed. Since PIT and NJD are duking it out for the Atlantic division, 7th seed lands one of them, and if it’s NJD, they have a better shot.
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Yep. Marty’s not scaring the bejesus out of anyone this season.
But Philly could still slide into that 7-8 area as well. 6 spot is available if BOS or MON can keep rolling. BUF is waaaay preferable to any of the current 1-2-4 seeds.
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Losing Leighton? Yeah, they definitely could. (This also means that there’s a chance of us facing Philly in the opening round again. o.o)
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Bring on Philly. Caps take them seriously. But I don’t want TB or NYR 1st round.
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Can we have the Panthers in the 1st round?
I agree totally about the stupidity of the average person. Horrifyingly, nearly 50% of people are even stupider!
I think we just made that a non-possibility.
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I’m praying for PHX/COL.
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Avs with the cheapest beer
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So we are last in the league in something! Glad I don’t drink. Thanks for that link, Chris, cool read. =)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Wait, it’s just organized alphabetically.. nevermind. XD
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Yeah, strange coincidence Atlanta was first and Vancouver 2nd-last ;)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Verizon Center has some of the cheapest beer in professional sports. The $7.50 is actually for 22 or 24 ounces of beer.
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Pensburgh says Downie fined $1,000 for his attempt at ripping off Crosby’s leg at the knee via barrel roll. No suspension. In other news, it probably cost more than that to assemble the committee to discuss the appropriate punishment for Downie.
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This is a completely ridiculous response from the NHL, I’d rather they did nothing. If you are going to fine Downie that means that you recognize that it was not just some accident and they got twisted up. And if you acknowledge intent on Downie’s part how in the hell do you not think it is dirty enough for a suspension? Totally gutless move by Colin Campbell.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
It gets better...
I questioned the hit on the NHLOA BBoards.
They called it a “trip”.
I question the wording in the slew-foot penalty, because I saw a slew-foot.
They are claiming that you have to push the guy backwards while tripping them from behind for it to be a slew-foot, but that is NOT what the 3@!$%@ rule says (emphasis mine):
52.1 Slew-footing – Slew-footing is the act of a player using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him, or pushes an opponent’s upper body backward with an arm or elbow, and at the same time with a forward motion of his leg, knocks or kicks the opponent’s feet from under him, causing him to fall violently to the ice.
Does anybody else not read that as an either A or B situation?!
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Like I said, no violent fall backwards to the ice, no slew-foot.
Plus, the “A” in the rule wording(using his leg or foot to knock or kick an opponent’s feet from under him) didn’t happen. Downie entangled Crosby’s legs, didn’t knock them out from under him.
You had me at no problem.
Only because he got caught in between Crosby’s skates… and the NHL is punishing incompetence these days, so…
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
between classes and no time to look up the language, but:
why doesn’t the NHL have a general “personal foul” penalty like the NFL? something vague that encompasses any unnecessary roughness infraction? all of the talk about c.campbell being “handcuffed” by different rules is completely aggravating.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
In theory don’t roughing and unsportsmanlike conduct fall in those categories?
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
if they do, i see no reason for a head-shot rule, no need to perfectly define downie’s leglock as a slew foot.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Roughing only covers gloved punches basically, so that won’t work. And it doesn’t really look like unsportsmanlike conduct fits either; that’s mostly for talking too much or assaulting non-players.
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Yeah, and the NFL’s “personal fouls” are mostly for things that go completely unpenalized in hockey, like face-washing, shoving after the play, big scrums, etc. Roughing in hockey would mean a 4-game suspension in the NFL.
You had me at no problem.
How about a broad interpretation of Conduct Detrimental to the League? I don’t know the wording on that, but wasn’t that the rule they threw at Avery?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 17, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s a slew-foot. I don’t really care what the NHL has to say about it. Was it perfect form? No. But that’s a slew-foot.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
If Crosby didn’t have any legs, he wouldn’t have gotten tripped. (Twitter #bruceboudreau logic)
by patred48 on Mar 17, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
holy cow
I just noticed the Coyotes are five points back of the Sharks. What if the NHL-owned Coyotes are the West’s top seed? Its not inconceivable— the Sharks don’t look great and the Yotes do.
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And I will admit, as much as I am not a Stempniak fan, he has been awesome since coming to the Yotes.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Man, why’s everyone gotta hate on Lee Stempniak? Yeah, he was terrible in Toronto, but then again, so is everyone.
*caveat: I like the guy because he played for my alma mater and graduated the same year I did, and he was far and away their best player all four years.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah… it also extends to my support of Hugh Jessiman, Dave Jones, and Tanner Glass.
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Tanner Glass sounds like a name straight out of a soap opera
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, yes it does.
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
only the NHL could take the “How to run a league-owned team into the ground!” business model perfected by MLB and screw it up so badly.
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by RedBirdie on Mar 17, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But their league-owned team is doing well.
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Diff’rent economics. MLB is an uncapped league with no minimum salary requirements.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed, just pointing out the NHL isn’t running PHX into the ground.
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my point was I was fully expecting the NHL to botch Phoenix, intentionally or not, and turn them into the NHL version on the Montreal Expos. And yet here’s Phoenix, chasing down San Jose for one of those top-3 spots. Stunning.
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San Jose got within striking distance last night at 4-2 early in the third…then gave up 2 straight SH goals against. Then two more goals after that. I see they are rounding into playoff form nicely.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
You know how much I’ve liked SJS the last several years, but Dan Boyle changed that in one fell swoop. I cannot root for them anymore. I find myself actively hoping they choke. I really hope DET gives them a first round spanking. My how the world has changed…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
It wasn’t Heatley that did it for you?
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Nope. The car accident was a real tragedy and he was wrong, but I can forgive that. He was a young guy with a Ferrari. I can’t say I’d have behaved much better. He needed the change of scenery. I don’t love the fact that he wanted out of OTT, but we don’t know what happened behind the scenes and I blame the OTT management for how that fiasco played out more than him. There’s no proof, but I think Murray’s crew leaked the trade demand, not Heater’s. I don’t hate him nearly as much as a lot of other players.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
But what about that annoyingly long visor?!
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Haha. You’re right! He’s terrible. (And here is where WM would get up in arms if he was still active in the comments.)
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
What's wrong with long visors?
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nothing!
Any player with a brain and the ability to think would wear one!
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Much worse. And much dumber.
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Matt Cooke’s though is just crazy, I think, angled outwards and all. Makes him look crazy.
I like the look of long visor’s in NHL Hitz. Not in real life though.
Why doesn’t the NHL make visors mandatory?
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by red army line on Mar 17, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
They might eventually. Mandatory in the AHL now, unless I’m mistaken.
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It’ll be grandfathered in soon enough. A couple more eye injuries and they’ll be spurred to act.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
why did they let guys continue to not wear helmets when helmets were mandatory?
Why are these things grandfathered in?
Suspend Colin Campbell!
Seems like though the guys like Lidstrom who didn’t before are now. If nothing else, to me that’s a clear sign that it’s the right time.
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by red army line on Mar 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I think all the guys that didn’t wear helmets retired. Sure you look tough, but it’s stupid and it shows a weak organization that doesn’t put that sort of safety measure as a top priority.
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Only because of who is wearing it
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t forget that damn turtleneck.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s uncircumcised?
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t care for Heatley, but there are a ton of bigger tools than him out there right now. Perry makes Heatley look like Mother Teresa.
BTW, F/B. I mentioned last night that I learned that Scott Hartnell is kind of an airhead. So while I’d still want him on my team, you were kinda right.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
but is he a bigger airhead than Mike Green?
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You couldn’t figure that out about Hartnell after the glove-throwing thing?
And I agree. Perry and Getzlaf make me want to rage.
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I decided he was an idiot when he mugged Dan Hamhuis (a former friend) after the overtime whistle.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
me or Hartnell?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Hard to tell on that one.
Yeah, it was real douchey. Chris Pronger (huge) also cross-checked Tootoo (tiny) in the grill.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The car accident was a real tragedy and he was wrong, but I can forgive that. He was a young guy with a Ferrari. I can’t say I’d have behaved much better.
Can’t help but see the similarities to the defense of Ovechkin’s hit on Campbell being something common that had an uncommonly bad result.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I had that same thought but didn’t really want to take it down that road. If we are going that way, sober up and buckle your seat belt.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, it’s probably for the best. But that is basically why I agree with you that I don’t hate Heatley for the Snyder incident. I do blame him more for the Ottawa debacle than you do, however.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
The OTT thing comes down to a) why he wanted the trade and b) who leaked it. If he wanted the trade only because of ice time, well he’s a douche. But if there was personal stuff behind the scenes, it may be more understandable (or he could still be a douche). If he leaked it to put pressure on OTT he is a terrible terrible douche. But I think Murray did it to discredit Heatley, so it’s all his own fault. I didn’t see Heatley fanning the media circus really.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions
If Cheechoo had been remotely productive that would’ve been a pretty good deal.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions
But everyone paying attention knew he wouldn’t be.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Wonder what happened, anyway? Was he a flash in the pan or a product of Joe Thornton?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Not a great skater + a couple of injuries + general loss of confidence + not playing with Joe Thornton anymore.
Apparently he’s not even putting up points in the minors anymore.
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I’d say it was the first two. He was always slow and just managed to find open spots in the slot right out of the lockout when there was more open ice than ever. Once teams figured out how to defend the slot in the post-lockout era it was harder for him to get open. Then he got injured, and it was even harder for him. The rest is history. He stopped getting ice with Joe because he wasn’t producing, not the other way around.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know, I just don’t see what Murray gains by leaking the demand. He can always discredit Heatley after a trade and leak the demand, but doing so beforehand kills his leverage. Heatley, however, puts the pressure on Murray to trade him by leaking it to the press. Heatley also boned OTT by turning down the trade to EDM that would have been great for OTT. Sure, it’s his right since he had a NTC, but I still think it’s a douchey move to demand a trade then tank a trade when one is made.
You are right that there if there is behind the scenes stuff it can either exonerate Heatley or made him look worse. But without knowing that stuff all we do know is that he definitely complained publicly about his ice time and pouted and acted like a primadonna when he wasn’t given what he thought he deserved regardless of working for it. That makes me give the benefit of the doubt to OTT over Heatley barring any other information about the rift.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s fine. I still hate Boyle more.
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Boyle’s an idiot for a lot of reasons. Is one of yours being on Team Canada over Green?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
probably has something to do with that bush-league yellow-belly slewfoot he gave Semin at the Olympics.
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Agreed. I said several times that I didn’t want Green on Team Canada. Sure, I’d make fun of the weaker defensemen that made it over him, but I didn’t hate them for it. The slew-foot and resulting NBC reaction (Dan Boyle will get in your face!) was what made me livid. Dan Boyle has been overrated for a long time. Now he’s an overrated scumbag.
So between Boyle being a scumbag, Nabokov disappearing, and Thornton’s disappearing acts when it matters, I just don’t have as much love for SJS anymore. I’ll always love Marleau, though.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you happen to remember what EDM was getting back in that trade?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
crap
I mean what Ottawa was getting back
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
From what I’m reading it was Cogliano, Penner and Smid.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Gagne, Smid, and Cogliano, right?
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Either way; better deal for Ottawa than the SJ one.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
thx
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Edmonton is so screwed for the next few years.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
why bother naming three finalists for the Adams. If this isn’t the biggest landslide in that trophy’s voting ever, I’ll be shocked.
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by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Because Joe Sacco’s done nearly as amazing a job in COL and deserves some recognition, too. Other than that, can’t figure out why.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 17, 2010 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions
aaaand Adrian Dater is a loon
A touch of petulance is always expected and tolerated of the best players in any sport. But Ovechkin’s Diva routine is starting to get a little much. This is not to say Ovechkin needs to be just another faceless entity who mouths bland clichés and doesn’t step out of line. The NHL already has more than enough of that kind of player.
Ovechkin’s outlaw personality and image have been a good thing, on the whole. But the fact is, Ovechkin seriously hurt one of Chicago’s top players and got away with a light two-game suspension. He should be happy about that, instead of at first saying he was “disappointed” in Colin Campbell’s slap on the wrist. If Ovechkin had been the one run into the boards, he and the Capitals would be screaming from the top of the Washington Monument for justice.
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“Diva routine”? please.
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And exactly who in the NHL would launch Ovie into the boards on a hit from the side?
Havent seen anyone yet…..
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by IRockTheRed on Mar 17, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Hal Gill, heh heh
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Touch of petulance? That article is a touch of flatulence.
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Just screams of someone who needed to find something to write about for their deadline. I mean, really, to nitpick the language in the statement is ridiculous. Of course he’s going to say he’s disappointed, that’s just really basic PR.
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
That was quite possibly the biggest straw-man article in this entire incident. The assertion that Ovi said or implied that he’s above the law is insane and baseless.
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Jesus. This turd might be worse:
Did Alexander Ovechkin hand the Hart Trophy to Sidney Crosby, Henrik Sedin or Ryan Miller with his two-game suspension this week?
Gotta love a journo who clearly is voicing an opinion, but is too chickenshit not to ask it as a question.
It goes on. Read at your own risk.
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I don't know
This (from the Dater article) is pretty pissy:
His arch-rival, Sidney Crosby, may be bland, but now he’s got a gold medal to go with his Stanley Cup. Ovechkin has yet to get either, and now he’s getting labeled a bit as a crybaby when things don’t go his way.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions
And completely and utterly irrelevant. And untrue (crybaby? Where other than in this Dater article is he being labeled as such?).
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agreed
Complete BS.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Proposition 1: the Canadian men’s hockey talent pool is so deep that A) the nation reasonably expected a gold medal and would have been bitterly disappointed with any other result, and B) could have fielded a “B” team of rejected players that would have medaled.
Proposition 2: it is a testimony to Sid’s leadership and winner cred that the Canadian men’s hockey team won gold.
Neat, huh?
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by fat_daddyo on Mar 17, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that’s why Sid was tournament MVP.
I really really really hope Team Canada left off the highest goal scoring Canadian and the highest scoring Canadian D. Even if they got Gold, fuck them and their idiotic selection process.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I imagine Dater walking around his office whispering to everyone, “Hey, Jane’s a bitch” to perplexed colleagues, waiting fifteen minutes, and then coming back around and saying “You know, that Jane….people say she’s a real bitch.”
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
sadly, I believe this.
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It’s a Drudge/FOX News tactic – have one fringe outlet make an assertion and then when others report on it, they’re not making the assertion but rather reporting that the assertion is out there.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
The sad thing is most people don’t seem to know the difference.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Here I was thinking he’d co-opted it from Michael Scott.
by David M. Getz on Mar 17, 2010 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ovechkin gave Campbell a terrorist fist shove.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
But Brophy has anonymous players saying “He’ll get his,” and, “His day is coming.” So he’s got that going for him.
It’s an epic shitty article throwdown.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m actually quite encouraged. This means I have a better shot at getting a job than I thought.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think the Denver Post is hiring for a Preds beat writer though Chris ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe not :P
But still, if they hire these guys then I’ve got a fighting chance ;). I can at least make up shit like that.
“Shea Weber was downright robbed of the Norris Trophy”, one NHL scout said. “He had the most power play hits in the league.”
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I love his claim that Ovechkin only prays on small, soft players and doesn’t go after bigger physical guys. I guess Chara, Murray and Colin White weren’t among his sample of anonymous players.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Would it really, really make everyone’s ovaries hurt so badly for AO to win another Hart? I mean, is this like Hitler winning the Peace Prize? David Duke a Man of the Year award?
Canadian sanctimony is so very cloying…
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I know plenty of Canadians, myself included, who would have no problem with OV getting another Hart
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Good deal. I rather suspect you’re biased, but what the heck.
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now he’s getting labeled a bit as a crybaby when things don’t go his way.
This is news to me…
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Oops, should have read the rest of the responses first.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
A Holy S**t Nugget from Vogs
The Capitals are 37-2-3 when they score more than three goals in a game.
The Caps have scored 4+ in 60% of their games…that borders on surreal.
Of course, the flip side is that they’re 10-14-6 when they score 3 or fewer, but I’ll take it.
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You’d have to adjust for era, but it would be interesting to see.
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Probably held by the Oil, if I had to guess.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 17, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The true meaning of “Threeormore” is revealed to Caps fans
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 17, 2010 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Looking at those numbers, and counting OT losses just as a loss, the Caps are 10-20 when they score 3 or fewer. Which tells me that in a 7-game series, the opponent has to hold the Caps to 3 or less 5 times. One of those games, the Caps probably eke out a win, and then you try to do it 4 more times to get a series victory.
Tough.
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Maybe God intervened.
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
apparently dragging my lazy self out of bed for 8 am service did some good after all.!
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Wysh does take a ton of grief in those comments. Seems like 50% are “WYSH YOU STOOPID BASTARD U DON’T KNOW SHIT”
You had me at no problem.
If I were Wysh I’d just put a disclaimer warning those who read looking for sensible thoughts:
Behold the wonder of the Internet! Empowering every jackass with a keyboard!
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 17, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions
And “Go Wings/Flyers”
All those Yahoo! Blogs are mayhem and pestilence. There’s a guy who goes on the NFL blog every day and just posts “Tim Tebow sucks!” constantly.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what you get without moderation on a public board. Pretty similar to what you’d hear in the bleachers of a Mets game just before they stop serving beer.
You had me at no problem.
Its a good thing I can avoid both of them.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully he’s intervening at YouTube, too, then.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope it’s about the suspension…
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hahaha, well said sir.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 17, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Even better – reaction to the suspension.
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Will the Caps get 8 guys @ 20 goals?
Currently the Caps have 6 players with 20 goals or more – you know who they are. Fehr is at 19, and barring injury, will get to 20.
The more interesting case is Mike Green, who sits at 17. He might get there, he might not.
I started wondering about his dropoff in goals this year, and it doesn’t take much work to find out what’s behind it.
His Shots have dropped off by about .75 S/G, and his shooting pct is down to .093 from .126 last year. If he had duplicated his shooting percentage this year, he’d already have 23 goals; if he’d duplicated his shot totals, he’d have 21 goals.
Not sure why he’s getting fewer shots and they’re going in the net at a lower rate than last year, but I’m thinking bounce back next year…
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He spent most of the first half of the season trying to impress Team Canada with his madd defensive skillz, plus the boarding by Koci put a big dent in his game for a few weeks. Now that the ‘lympic distrction is done, he’s potted a couple.
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Let sasha draw a few more penalties and Greener is back in business.
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when trying to impress team Canada, it’s: dadd defence skillz.
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Right you are. Madd defencive skillz it is.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
He’s not able to surprise teams with his backdoor move on the PP. I think the extra attention he gets on the PP explains why his shot and goal totals are down, but he’s still racking up the points through assists.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 17, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
He got one the other day and said the other team was bottling up AO, so he decided to shoot instead of pass.
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Possibly more interesting
How many Caps will have 30 goal seasons?
Ovechkin and Semin are already over that plateau. Backstrom is at 29, and Laich 24, and Knuble is at 25.All 3 are projceted to be in the 30 goal club.
Laich is on a goal streak with 4 in 3 games, Knuble dropped off a bit and probably will continue to likely without his set up man, and Backstom will do it at anytime.
But think, 5 – 30 goal scorers on one team would be CRAZY
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Knuble might be on pace for 30, because he missed some time with the injury. I don’t think Brooksie is on that pace over the whole season, though.
You had me at no problem.
ESPN is projected Bubbles to have 28, 35, and 63 g/a/p respectively. I think if he’s on a hot streak though he could make it. I mean he and knuble are only 1 goal apart.
Espn also projects Knuble for 29/25/54 also respectively g/a/p. But I think it could still happen
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Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
1981-1982:
Dennis Maruk 60
Ryan Walter 38
Mike Gartner 35
Bob Carpenter 32
Chris Valentine 30
The Caps finished 26-41-13
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Mar 17, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well that was in the 80s and the year before Gretzky banged home 92 so I think those years were a bit inflated but really did the caps have anyone else on the team? or a goalie haha
Joe Corvo understands we hold "Penguins" with as much disregard as theatre people do Macbeth.
Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
Good point. I wonder how many other teams had even more 30 goal scorers.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Caps rebound going on? 7-2 spanking of the Kitties and not a single goal in on plays of the night nor a link for replays. Seems like that hasn’t happened in a long time
Joe Corvo understands we hold "Penguins" with as much disregard as theatre people do Macbeth.
Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
The playoff races are a more compelling story. There are less than 15 games to play and the Caps are the only team to have clinched a playoff spot.
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true I suppose, though espn’s cover is Penguins vs Devils so…i’m kinda lost on where i’m going with that other than those two teams are in the playoffs no matter but it is half interesting that the pens are getting swept by the devs
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Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
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That’s right, that pricey and handsome Southeast Division Champs t-shirt you’ve been saving up for? Today’s the day
Anyone who buys that gets banned.
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by J.P. on Mar 17, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
photo evidence of F&B in a southeast division champions t-shirt is forthcoming…
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha. Good luck with that.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Forgive me JP for I have sinned.
Not really.
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Wait, people buy division championship shirts?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
some even hang division championship banners.
by Natty Bumppo on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I have like 4 nylon banners, 1 is hanging in my room :P from 2 seasons ago, they gave them away at the first home game of the 08-09 season…i’ll take my free shit thank you!
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I have mine hanging too. It’s basically a curtain right now.
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Mine’s covering part of my bedroom wall… so are five of my rally towels. :-)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
my rally towels are in my kitchen.
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You use them, or hang them on the wall?
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use ‘em. I’ve got 8 of them. We’ll be hosting a party and someone ALWAYS mentions the Caps towels and suddenly my party is now int he kitchen with people wonder how to get their own set.
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I have some of mine. A couple of gone to long homes in the sky – I used one in the back of my window instead of a caps bumper sticker, nd it faded in the sun and looked horrid so I got rid of it. A second one happened to be in my skate bag the day I was behind a woman when she hit a deer and I pulled over to help her out. It went to a good cause, though.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Taking to OT thread to answer.
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by gotsparkly on Mar 17, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My son took ours to put on his dorm wall.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Atta boy.
I’m going to hang my full-size Caps towel from the balcony come playoff time.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mine’s hanging too. My apartment has insulation thinner than Colin Campbell’s excuses and every little bit helps.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course! They’re worth at least the same as a Highest Attendance shirt!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t anyone buy ’em when the Preds… oh, nevermind.
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I could care less about the division title; and wouldn’t go near one of those shirts if we did win anyway.
Now a shirt that celebrates a road playoff win, on the other hand…
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t. I bought a $5 hat recently that was for last years.
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Even if they collect Caps T-shirts?
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I have a Rock The Red t-shirt that say 2008 Southeastern Division Champions is small print. Mr. B spent the better part of a year sneaking around and getting the entire team to sign it.
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That’s love! Especially given his devotion to another team.
by MR Laughlin18 on Mar 17, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Ovi--A New Kind of Hockey Player
I am an avid (and longtime) lurker who loves to read Japers’ for a calm, rational discussion of the Caps and of hockey in general. As a teaching tool I have learned much, but I haven’t felt that I had anything substantive to add to the conversation. However, I was catching up and listening to PreCap for the game against the Panthers today ("surprise surprise" the Ovi issue came up) and Stretch made a point that really struck home with me. It encapsulated so much of how I feel about watching Ovi play this simple game of hockey.
He said that Ovi was a new kind of hockey athlete, that he is redefining the boundaries of how a hockey player can and should play the sport and that the young players coming up are looking to emulate Ovi’s style. They want to incorporate his blend of physicality with goal scoring, puck carrying, and playmaking finesse. They want to bring that kind of sheer strength as well as skill to their game. But the league, i.e. Campbell, who are old school, do not know how to handle or react to Ovi.
Stretch made the comparison to basketball—to the first time the ball was dunked by a player (I don’t follow basketball but the analogy made sense to me). What does a ref do—call it a penalty? How do ruling bodies deal with players who are ahead of a sport in the way they play and in the way they are built? They don’t—at least not well.
In short he said that the league, i.e. Campbell, don’t really know how to handle Ovi. Many posters and neutral observers have made the point that hits/pushes/checks of this type happen in every game and by players on every team (indeed in that remaining game against Chicago and in the game highlighted with great photos here in a fanpost), but most do not result in this kind of injury, penalty, or suspension.
Simply, a push/hit/check by most players do not have the same impact as one by Ovi. He is a wall, a beast, a force of nature. Eastern conference players, they know him and know that when he is on the ice bearing down on you when you have the puck be aware.
But Western conference players know him more by reputation. So when a player of Brian Campbell’s elite skating and puck handling skills knows that this MVP player is bearing down on him, he decides to play the puck by reversing it instead of carrying it safely around the net. He doesn’t realize that a push/hit/check by Ovi is not like one by another player. Add in the other situational oddities and he is unfortunately hurt. Mind you I am not blaming B. Campbell for the injury. Nor am I blaming Ovi. I am just sad about the whole affair for all the parties involved.
But I do absolutely believe that an athlete of Ovi’s genius—and I do call it genius—will be able to calibrate his play to stay on that edge, that line, and that he will continue to bring that which makes him unique—his special blend of improvisational playmaking brilliance, brute physicality, and sheer will to score and win—to each and every game. But Ovi will learn how to choose those moments better, to take into account players who don’t know his game first-hand or to be aware of potential situational ramifications. We all learn from experience and I have no doubt so too will Ovi.
For now I am just happy in the knowledge that we Caps fans are fortunate to be able to watch Ovi play and lead our team, secure in the knowledge that we can call him our own. And that like all crisis’s, this too shall pass. "That which shall not break us, will make us stronger." Ooh a stronger Ovi—is that even possible!
GO CAPS (and sorry for my rambling post—I will return to my lurking habits now)
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 14 recs
Holy crap – but a very good point. it’s kind of like the 64-bit computers in the 80’s – struggle because they’re so far ahead of their time that nobody really knows how to react to one. Rec’d.
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Thanks—I like the PC comparison—takes me back to my graduate school days and my luggable laptop!
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Comparable to the point Potvin was making yesterday about how you’re not allowed to interfere any longer at the blue line. These guys are taking 60 foot runs into the back of the defensemen getting the puck on the forecheck, and because of that, we’re going to have to get used to seeing things like this a lot more than we used to.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 17, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I was struck by Potvin’s comments too—as well as Babcock’s. It made me think of GMGM’s discussion after the GM meetings about changing the rules for hits to the head—that they have to be careful because of the “law of unintended consequences.” They change a rule, the players figure out how to get around the rule, and something new, sometimes horrible happens.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was joking last night that since Brad May got waived, apparently Babcock is now the head of the Washington Capitals Fan Club-Detroit Field Office. I was a bit surprised to see Babcoack throw his opinion out there.
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I was too. His opinion carried a lot of weight with me. Too many ambulance chasing talking heads out there IMO. But Potvin and Babcock—I listened. I think they appreciate what Ovi brings to the sport.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Potvin had previously called Ovechkin dangerous and “a predator,” so it was interesting to see him go the other way on this issue.
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“Ovechkin … ‘a predator’”
I think Chris Burton just felt it move.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
“Why don’t you have a seat over here..”
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by RedBirdie on Mar 17, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
new season starts tonight!
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(C’mon, people… so off-topic… work with me, I beg of you)
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You wouldn’t believe how many of those jokes come up.
They’re still not as funny as BJ jokes though.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I didn’t know that. Interesting. I have to mull this over…..
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
This is well thought out and much of it would make a great Op-Ed.
Have you thought about sending a copy to Campbell et al. as food for thought (not that the NHL suits seem very thoughtful)?
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
No—perhaps I will. I’m just dreading Wilbon writing more “crap” about Ovi. I wish sports commentators would take a fresh look rather than regurgitate what others have said.
by capsyoungguns on Mar 17, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Welcome — that’s great stuff, especially for a first post. It’s up there with this fanpost, and this comment and this comment for great opening acts. Hope we see you around a lot.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 18, 2010 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Thanks. I must admit I’m a little hesitant to jump in since I’m still learning the finer points. I’m a fan of the newer variety—that Ovi sucks all kinds of people into the sport—but this year I’ve really broadened my hockey knowledge. Stats are my weakness but I’ve really come to appreciate the story they tell. I’m just thrilled I got greened—woo hoo!
by capsyoungguns on Mar 18, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
*whistle*
From @capsmedia:
When Ovi was named captain, Caps trailed by 5 points in the East. Since them they have gone 23-3-3 and built a 16-point lead.
That is INSANE.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Or you could spin it to highlight Chimera..
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Not quite as pretty as there were some games that Chimera played where Ovi wasn’t captain.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Three games. Canes, Sharks, Kings. Back home, Habs game, Ovi gets the C, and boom! goes the dynamite.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Magic Number
is 11 (PIT and NJD).
After tonight, it’ll still be 11, sadly.
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Caps Salary Cap Next Year
Continued on from the Backstrom thread…
OK, the Caps have $20MM in cap space next year, but only 13 NHL bodies under contract. So they’re going to chew that up pretty heavily. Assuming they have 7 D, 13 F, 2 G and a spare part on the NHL club, they’re going to need to sign/add 10 guys.
My quick and dirty look at it:
Goalies: Varly and Neuvy are under contract, and cheap. I’ll guess they make one guy the starter and hire a vet backup, and stash the other guy in HER.
Defense: They have Green, Poti, Erskine, Carlson and Sloan under contract. Sloan for spare part? Erskine for 7th D? That leaves Green, Poti and Carlson. Schultz is an RFA and gets resigned. There’s your top 4, I suspect. Then Alzner? Then a FA signing.
Forwards: They have AO, Semin, Knubs, Laich, Chimera, Steckel and Bradley signed. Baxter is RFA and gets resigned. So the top line is taken care of. Then then need a 2C, 3C, 3R and 4L and a 13th F.
Fehr, Gordo and Flash are UFA. See ya, Gordo. Fehr gets resigned (I hope) for 3R duties. Flash I would like to see traded.
I could see retaining Belanger for 3C. Then you’re looking for a 2C (not so easy to find) and a grinder (easy to find) and a HER callup for 13th F. Maybe Matty Perreault gets a chance to hold a center spot for the big club? At least until the trade deadline?
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They’ll sign Juice on D, and I’d pray for Matty if I believed it would help him land a spot on the big club. Have to believe they’ll sign Flash, too. It’s going to be interesting as hell to see how it all shakes out.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
So your D are as follows?
Green – Schultz
Poti – Carlson
Juice – Alzner
Erskine
Not sure how the lefty/righty thing plays out with these pairings, but it looks reasonable. If Alzner can get over the hump, that is.
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Juice and yo-yo, gotta love that pairing!
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
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From King Karl to Yo-Yo in one half-season.
:(
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Fehr, Gordo and Flash are UFA. See ya, Gordo. Fehr gets resigned (I hope) for 3R duties. Flash I would like to see traded.
Me thinks that all three are RFAs…not UFAs. My hope is that some GM goes crazy and offers Flash or Fehr 3M+ per year so the Caps can atleast get a 1st rounder. At the very least Flash or Fehr should get an offer large enough to help replenish a 2nd rounder.
Boyd Gordon sent home, via CI:
Center Boyd Gordon returned to Washington after last night’s game in Florida to begin receiving treatment on the balky back that he’s struggled with most of the season. That almost surely means he’ll miss at least the next two games.
get well soon, Muffins!
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With Gordon and Alex Ovechkin out tomorrow, the fourth line will likely be some combination of Quintin Laing, David Steckel, Matt Bradley and and former Hurricane Scott Walker.
Um, right. “Q, Mr. Ovechkin likes extra peppers on his nachos.”
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
by EmilyB on Mar 17, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
“And make sure the Coke is properly chilled!”
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That 4th line is pretty easy to decide.
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by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
NHL poll today
Which Patrick is your favorite?
One answer choice is Kaleta. I’m surprised he’s even in the neighborhood of 5%.
(JP, should this be on the OT?)
Cидни Kросби: Александр Oвечкин, он твой папа теперь
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From Collegehumor.com
The site I know oh so many of you go to
“14 Drinks named after professional athletes and how to make them.”
- – - – -
JOHN DALY
Directions: Pour 14 cans of Busch Light into a bucket. Garnish with chicken wings.
- – - – -
BEN ROETHLISBERGER
Directions: Make a Sex On The Beach. Chase with a vigorous legal defense.
- – - – -
ALEXANDER OVECHKIN
Directions: Add one completely unnecessary shot of vodka to any drink.
- – - – -
TIM TEBOW
Directions: Fill a pint glass with vodka. Set aside for sterilization of circumcisions. Now pour glass of ice water and serve.
Joe Corvo understands we hold "Penguins" with as much disregard as theatre people do Macbeth.
Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
You could write so many good Caps themed ones.
THE NICK BACKSTROM:
Directions: Make an Absolut vodka martini. Quietly serve it to someone next to a guy who is adding an unnecessary shot of Smirnoff to everything he drinks.
-—-
THE ERIC FEHR:
Directions: Serve a Molson lager to someone. Take it away before they have a chance to finish.
-—-
THE ALEX SEMIN:
Directions: Pour a double shot of vodka. Chase with an unnecessary offensive zone stick penalty.
-—-
THE KARL ALZNER
Directions: Drop a shot of Jameson’s into a mug of domestic beer. Retrieve the shot glass. Drop again. Repeat several times.
-—-
THE JOHN CARLSON
Directions: Layer, in a shot glass, in order, blue curacao, vodka, and Hot Damn. Light on fire to burn off one year of RFA eligibility.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
by Wheeler on Mar 17, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
The Alex Semin: A double shot o vodka with a teaspoon of sugar and an umbrella in it.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The John Carlson: Add a drop of Canadian tears.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 17, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd, but FTFY
The John Carlson: Add a ocean drop of Canadian tears.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 17, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
THE BROOKS LAICH:
Directions: If you want a drink, go to the bar.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
by Wheeler on Mar 17, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
The Flash
Directions: Make a Mohito. When grinding the mint leaf miss it completely, crush some ice, add an entire mint leaf to the drink and serve luke warm with the first round of drinks, or the 2nd, or the 3rd.
Joe Corvo understands we hold "Penguins" with as much disregard as theatre people do Macbeth.
Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
THE MATT BRADLEY:
Your choice of spirits with a healthy splash of grenadine.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Of note:
With last night’s seven-goal outburst, the Caps now have scored more goals than they did last year. They would have to score fewer than 2 goals in each of their remaining games not to break 300 goals.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
that’s just nuts. Insane, even.
anyone know the team goal record post-lockout? post 1995?
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
Donate to the Rink Pledge Drive for SAVES FOR KIDS! Ain’t nothing [wrong] about giving $5 so a stranger’s premature baby can have the time on a respirator they need.~Gould Old Days
Post-lockout and post-1995, this is it: 277 goals for for the Caps. The Caps record for most goals in a season is, I believe, 330, which happened back in 1992-1993. We’re on a rate to fall about six goals short of that this year.
If you mean for any team, I’d have to look that up.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
because I love this stuff:
2008-2009: 289 (DET)
2007-2008: 258 (OTT)
2006-2007: 298 (BUF) (!)
2005-2006: 312 (OTT)
Caps are on pace for 320.
now I just have to figure out where to find even older numbers. NHL.com only goes back to 1997-1998
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
Donate to the Rink Pledge Drive for SAVES FOR KIDS! Ain’t nothing [wrong] about giving $5 so a stranger’s premature baby can have the time on a respirator they need.~Gould Old Days
They have standings all the way back to the beginning of the league, and that includes that information.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
oooh, where?
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
Donate to the Rink Pledge Drive for SAVES FOR KIDS! Ain’t nothing [wrong] about giving $5 so a stranger’s premature baby can have the time on a respirator they need.~Gould Old Days
2006-2007: 298 (BUF) (!)
A reminder of how quickly a team can fall from offensive heights. Enjoy it now, my fellow fans.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 17, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Without Ovechkin
If I pulled the dates right, while the Caps have gone 7-2 without Ovechkin, the players who have been hottest without their Captain?
Flash: 10 goals 2 assists 12 points
Backstrom: 2 goals 10 assists 12 points
Laich: 4 goals 6 assists 10 points.
Semin is 4/4/8.
Joe Corvo understands we hold "Penguins" with as much disregard as theatre people do Macbeth.
Now if we can only get Locker to start calling him Jumbo Joe. . .
forgive me if this already discussed.....
but I wasn’t gonna read through over 900 posts…..I did a quick search, saw nothing substantial….so i’ll start this new thread….
Forgive me, but while the numbers look good for AO to win the Hart Trophy, I hope he doesn’t win it. The description says the Hart is given to the “player judged to be the most valuable to his team.” I don’t think this is AO this year. If AO was so important to the team, why are the winning without him on the ice (not that I’m complaining)? He’s a leader and brings the energy to the team, sure. But the fact is they can and are winning without him. While his value is good, is it “most valuable?” I think not.
If it is anyone from the Caps, I’d have to say it’d be Backstrom. He’s really stepped up his game this year - he’s already had a career high in goals scored (with more to come, I’m sure) and the assists and points aren’t that far away from a career high either. I think he’s been the most improved and valuable player. I think his success has helped AO’s success more.
That said — is Backstrom the Hart winner over others? That’s another story — not one I have time for. (short story, I think Gaborik can be argued for…..)
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by RedskinFan4Life on Mar 17, 2010 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
There was a discussion on this topic a couple of days ago (can’t remember exactly when). I said that I don’t support Ovi for Hart this year, for basically all the same reasons you say.
I said I would vote for Miller…and then we probably digressed into the argument over whether a goalie should ever receive the MVP award. That’s where this discussion always seems to go.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 17, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m not sure if he should or will win it, but I most certainly want him to. It would be an incredible achievement for him to do something that only Gretzky and Orr have done before.
But Ovechkin is most certainly the MVP of the Caps, regardless of their record without him. It’s a small sample size of 9 games, with 4 of those games coming against Florida. They weren’t exactly playing against top teams in the other 5 games either (except 2 against NJ – both losses). He’s the heart and soul of the team, and I don’t think it’s a fluke the way the team took off once he became the captain.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 18, 2010 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
You can say he doesn’t deserve it, but why would you not want him to win it? Root for your guy, and as K_C said, one more gets him in absolutely ridiculously elite company.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Mar 18, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy EFF.
Anybody watching the Blackhawks-Sharks game?!
Seabrook got knocked out of the game by Wisniewski (2 for charging, should have been 5) – Seabrook was out cold on his way to the ice. He folded up like a wet paper towel.
It was totally a retribution hit, too. Seabrook hit Perry behind the net – barely legal, robably shouldn’t have been. The clips aren’t up yet, but dang…
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