Monday Caps Clips: The Playoff Push Begins
by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 6:41 AM EST
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- Back to business, the Caps are getting ready for their playoff push. [WaPo]
- Plenty of notes from yesterday's practice, including this from Bruce Boudreau on Tyler Sloan's conditioning assignment in Hershey: "Instead of being a sixth defenseman [in Wasington], get out there and be a top three and play in all situations [in Hershey]." Too bad neither of Hershey's top-two is in D.C., eh? [CI]
- On the rumo(u)r front, "Washington wants to deal defenceman Brian Pothier, but the asking price is a second-round pick." [SLAM!]
- Also, "[t]here is talk the Capitals will make a pitch for Vokoun or Thomas." [LFP]
- Grading the Caps' Olympians. [D.C. Landing Strip]
- Another take on ranking the Caps' prospects, this one twenty deep. [Hockey's Future]
- Don't think Alex Ovechkin is making a cultural impact on his adopted home town? Think again. [WaPo]
- In case you didn't know, Gabby is kinda popular in Hershey. [Examiner]
- Bears' bench boss Mark French on Semyon Varlamov's 30-for-32 performance Sunday afternoon: "He was excellent. Really solid. Looked very efficient in the net. He made all the stops that I thought he should have made, and probably some more that you don’t expect the goalie to make." [Patriot-News]
- More from the weekend in Chocolatetown. [RMNB]
- This week's Farm Report. [FanPost]
- Per the HHoF, on this date in 1997, "Washington obtained Adam Oates, Bill Ranford and Rick Tocchet from Boston, in exchange for Jim Carey, Anson Carter, Jason Allison, and Washington's 3rd round pick in 1997 Entry Draft (Lee Goren)."
- Finally, happy 28th birthday to Brian Sutherby.
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What, no trades announced yet?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Bunch of jerks.
I want to see at least one trade before I go to sleep. They have about three hours.
I’ll be very disappointed if there aren’t at least a few trades by morning. Hope those GMs weren’t slacking off during the Olympic vacation.
I have to go. But if I find one single dog hair when I get back, I'll rub... sand... in your dead little eyes. I also need you to buy sand. I don't know if they grade it, but... coarse.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 1, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
What if NJ came back and said “Throw in Carlson… and a parking voucher for the Tropicana .. and we have a deal?”
Realistically, Parise is not on the market. You’d have to really over pay for Zach and Fehr and Carlson wouldn’t get it done even if you add the poker chips and parking voucher.
Time to end the Parise talk.
My brother was asking what the Caps would need to get Zach Parise. I said, “A time machine!”
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i’d say that’s pretty accurate
If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is.
by ns on Mar 1, 2010 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
One American hero for another?! Have NJ throw in a few bald eagles and we’ve got a deal.
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Mar 1, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I trust those kids were searched for cameras before marching with AO?
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp slapped you into that china cabinet."
I’m surprised we haven’t seen a Hockey News article questioning the decision to leave children alone with that monster.
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Sid would have given an interview about it
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 7:39 AM EST up reply actions
Sid would have said the kids were wearing too many hats…
Ba-da-bing
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
I’m sure they’ll at least question his inclusion in the ceremony.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
You know. I really think we’re going to have to man up and get used to it. Our guys are never going to get any respect in the Canadian press, no matter what happens or what Ovi or anyone else does. We could win five Cups and we’d still hear about how Sid did it first. I think we’re simply going to have to get used to getting trashed in the press and learn to ignore it.
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by gotsparkly on Mar 1, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe we get Sid drunk and hire some transvestite prostitutes to seduce him and bring some cameras…..
Hmm wait… that won’t work. Eddie Murphy still had a career after that.
The Canadian media would spin it as Sid reaching out to the LGBT community to broaden the appeal of hockey.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on Mar 1, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think we’re simply going to have to get used to getting trashed in the press and learn to ignore it.
There’s a novel idea.
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp slapped you into that china cabinet."
But sometimes it’s too much fun to bash those mindless minions who call themselves hockey writers!
Ignoring it may be the better thing to do though, I guess, because as well all know. Haterz gonna hate!
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 1, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this is about the conclusion I came to yesterday. Along with, honestly, the fact that it doesn’t matter — the Caps will always be my team regardless of what the press says about them or about anyone else.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
I absolutely love reading up on trade speculation. Its probably one of my favorite things to do, its right there with eating great food, drinking great beer (and not so great), watching the Caps beat the Pens and taking afternoon naps.
Gonchar contract talks have staaled. Shero tried hard in Vancouver with two different offers, neither of which was accepted. I will read between the lines here and say that the Russians were dangling some serious KHL kash and Gonch is … thinking it over. If he leaves, PIT has only two defensemen signed for next year.
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Wouldn’t shock me if Gonch goes to the KHL.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Be careful with schadenfreude, it forced my car into a cement highway divider last weekend. Bad karma, indeed.
"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21
Gonchar looked awfully slow and old in Vancouver. Pens would be wise to let him go.
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Especially since it doesn’t look like he’s really doing anything to improve their shitty power play.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:15 AM EST up reply actions
From what I’ve seen, I think their PP has the same problem as Russia’s did – too many stars and not enough team.
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His GA/60 is dead last among Pens D who have played at least 40 games. As far as GF/60 goes, he’s only ahead of Eaton.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:21 AM EST up reply actions
His GA/60 Off Ice is 2.06. Ouch.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:34 AM EST up reply actions
On second thought, they should do all they can to keep him.
by Capcrazy77 on Mar 1, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
BUT THEY HAS SIDSNEY CROSBIES! THEY HAVE TO BE GRATE!
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve got my Gonch issues, but sad to see him decline so quickly. He was the Penguins spark last season, they looked awful without him. He doesn’t look like the same guy this year.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
If they can get him to sign a 2-year deal., it’d be okay. But if he’s looking for something longer, it would be silly. He’s old enough that a contract would be guaranteed against the cap — even if he retires or is released — and he’s certainly not the player he was 3 or 4 years ago.
The Pens have two maturing offensive defensemen in Letang and Goligoski, so it would be smarter to let Gonchar go.
Well, to be fair, who else was Bykov going to put on the ice? Volchenkov couldn’t possibly have handled more than the 15 minutes of ice he was given every night.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
BTW, love the typo (“Gonchar contract talks have staaled.”). Guess that means the talks are overrated?
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by bagace on Mar 1, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Doubt it was a typo – YNC’s clever like that.
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A combination of phlegm and organs on your walls?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Happy Self-Mutilation Awareness Day!
After that loss, maybe this is just the universe fucking with all of us.
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by turnituptoeleven on Mar 1, 2010 7:54 AM EST reply actions
Take solace in the fact that, for a few minutes at least, most Pens fans hated Sidney Crosby.
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I think it’s more likely that, for a few minutes at least , most Pens fans pretended they were Canadian
Not from what I read from some sampling of some Pittsburgh message boards. They seemed genuinely peeved that: a) Canada won, and b) Croby got the winning goal.
Of course, the salve for that was their comfort in the knolwedge that Ovechkin lost again.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Makes you wonder how DC would have reacted if the gold medal game was USA vs Russia and Ovechkin won it in overtime.
As much as I said I was FOR Russia.. it would be a little weird
Wonder if that would cause some turmoil between teammates, though, when Ovie and Semin got back.
I guess it’s better that all the Caps in the playoffs get screwed. Now they’re all equally pissed off.
Well like, none of the Caps are from the US. So I’m pretty sure it would’ve been fine.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Pothier and Poti would be all up in the Alex’s shit.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
Not BMo, as for Knuble he was born in Canada and represents the US internationally.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
BMo’s from Vancouver. Knuble was born in Toronto to American parents and has dual citizenship, he grew up in Grand rapids, MI.
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and has represented the US previously. So has far as the IIHF is concerned, he’s American.
and, man, there were a few times yesterday where I really missed seeing him camped out in front of the crease!
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
You shouldn’t have. His lack of speed would have been a liability. Our problem wasn’t that we didn’t have guys to go to the net, we just couldn’t get the puck there.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Yeah. The US had a lot of shots, but they were of the “let’s see if Luongo screws THIS one up” variety, for the most part.
The Canadian PK was completely dominant, and they basically owned the neutral zone.
Bummed/borderline annoyed that two Canadian goals came on horrible defensive gaffes down low, but I’ll take the silver for Team USA.
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Yeah. Real poor play by EJ on the first goal, he had a man open on the half-wall. And the second was such a fucking bad play by Whitney he should be ashamed. He’s fucking paid to play hockey and he muffed that puck like a men’s leaguer. I didn’t see him take a single shift after that. Too bad indeed.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I thought Canada came into the game looking to play defense from the outset. Don’t let the US speed up front expose the slower D or Luongo, and look to capitalize on mistakes and turnovers. It worked.
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Yup. They learned from their earlier loss. That’s what good coaching does.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
AND they seem to have recognized what they had in Bobby Lu…even if the Canadian hockey media didn’t/doesn’t.
Babcock, Lemaire and Ruff is a lot of talent behind the bench, btw. A lot.
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Chris Clark and Donald Brashear are among American recent Caps alum.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Steckel would have completely useless this past olympics seeing as how there were like negative 10 penalties the entire tournament :)
So… hyopothetical scenaro. Lets say in international play, the avg penalties per game was the same as the NHL.. How does that change who would have made the roster?
Hell.. Steckel might have even made it then. With his faceoff % and long reach…
Me too, if only because USA wasn’t expected to get that far and because that would have meant Canada would have finished with a bronze at best.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 1, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
I have quite a few relatives who live in Pittsburgh (and are true Pens fans), and for the most part their reaction was:
“I wish it hadn’t been Crosby, but I didn’t want to have to be pissed at him”
Honestly, if it had been Russia and Ovie instead of Canada and Crosby, I guess I would have the same attitude, but I think that it would have stung less coming off of OVie’s stick (since I’m otherwise a huge fan of his) than Crosby’s (since I otherwise can’t stand the jerk). Therefore, I can only assume that my Pittsburgh friends ultimately weren’t as pissed as I was when that game ended.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Mar 1, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed. Hating Crosby has become an American past time, and not limited to Caps and Flyers fans.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
putting it lightly! They’re downright nasty about the guy
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Well, look at it this way, Crosby’s a national hero in six Canadian cities and he’s public enemy #1 in 23 American cities.
He can’t hear you. He’s got a Stanley Cup ring plugging one ear and a gold medal covering the other one.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
You know...
…the IIHF has an award for folks who have won the Stanley Cup, Olympic Gold and World Championship Gold.
Here’s hoping Sid gets the chance to win the one missing piece (World Championship Gold) this April. :D
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
A chance, yes.
But not the win.
Definitely a chance.
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Do they play the Worlds in Olympic years?
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Mar 1, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
If definitely rooting for Crosby to captain Canada to a World Championship this spring.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
by macvechkin on Mar 1, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
To captain the Canadian team, you mean. He can try for the win next year. And the year after. They’ll have to make do without Mike Green again, of course.
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So that we can hear about how he’s Triple Gold at age 22. No thanks. Captain Canada to a WC failure I’ll accept.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I was really implying that I’d like to see him playing /em> in the WC, and thus out of the SCP in round 1.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I find it difficult to believe I’d be this depressed (metaphorically only, of course) if the winning Canadian goal had been scored by anyone else on that team. Why does life hate Caps fans so much?
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
That is EXACTLY my feeling. I actually would be able to be happy for Canada on some level. The hockey gods have it in for me/us, that’s for damn sure.
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
I received a message from my brother, a Pens fan, filled with absolute hatred for Crosby. Wonder if I can give him a little push in the right direction…
by mch on Mar 1, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
I’m getting a little tired of being on the losing end of everything in the end. It’s getting old.
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Yup. Haven’t experienced any major title euphoria since Maryland won the Tournament in 2002
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:14 AM EST up reply actions
While not a championship Fed’s 4 million dollar goal was pretty euphoric.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
On my Caps List it's #4...
My personal top 5 Goals in Caps History:
5) Alex Ovechkin’s First goal vs. Columbus in 2005 – The legend begins…
4) Sergei Fedorov’s $4M goal – The Caps advance in the playoffs for the first time in 11 years.
3) Sergei Fedorov’s goal vs. Florida Closing Night in 2008 – The Caps make the playoffs after a 5 year absence
2) Dale Hunter vs. Ron Hextall Game 7 OT, 1988 – The Caps beat their biggest division rivals in a game where they trailed 3-0.
1) Joe` Juneau vs. Dominik Hasek Game 6 OT, 1998 – The Caps get to the Stanley Cup Finals for the first time ever.
Here’s hoping that one of these will be bumped this spring….
Nice piece also on Joe` during the Sunday Olympic coverage about his program in for Inuit children in northern Quebec.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
No love for the Langway Goal?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Lots of love, but it wasn’t a playoff berth or series clinching goal…
It’s probably in my next 5, along with John Druce vs. NY Rangers to clinch the second round in 1990, Brian Bellows to clinch the first round in 1998, David Steckel in Game 6 last year to avoid elimination…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
no love for the Halpern overtime playoff goal?
against the Pens, no less—that’s top ten quality right there.
by bilspacecadet on Mar 1, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I should add that to the second 5.. not an elimination goal, or a goal that kept the Caps alive, but it was pretty sweet.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
There is a distinct difference between goals that are memorable because they display awesome feats of skill (and sometimes luck I’m sure), like many of Ovie’s, and goals that are memorable because of what they accomplished for the team.
This list is obviously referring to the latter type.
For example, I’m not sure if it would make a top 5 list, but one goal I’ll always remember is Morrisonn’s overtime winner on Dec. 23 of 2008, to beat the Rangers after coming back from being down 4-1. Wasn’t exactly the type of goal that will run on highlight reels for years to come, but was huge for the team at that time.
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by PaintDrinkingPete on Mar 1, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Morrisonn’s overtime winner on Dec. 23 of 2008
Speaking of Miracles on Ice…
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Goal was the 5th goal in a 5-1 win… an amazing play to watch and I love seeing it, but it really didn’t have much bearing on that game. Even when AO had his first 2 vs. Columbus in 2005, they were significant goals since the Caps won that game 3-2.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 2:39 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for the $4M reminder.
I remember calling out “C’mon old man!”, a few seconds before he unleashed the biggest, longest happiest sound I’ve ever been in…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZqMGZPNty4
.
I could watch that all day.
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by RedBirdie on Mar 1, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Doesn’t count in my book, I was in class and had to celebrate the win secretly. I didn’t even watch the goal until the three hours later.
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Better yet, how about finding a way to finally win one? Or two?
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How about 16?
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that math seems to work better… unless you want to lose in the finals, four games to two.
If you've read this far...seek help.
Unless Betman decides to make hockey “more exciting” for America by suddenly reducing the final round to best of 3.
Kinda depends on how Team Sid is doing, amiright?
/KIDDING!
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 1, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions 9 recs
I wonder if anyone has just thought to staple two octopuses together and throw them out there.
Maybe in DC we can start a new trend. Throwing out dead penguins.
Before you ask the answer is YES..
. I have no heart:
But it would definately be nice to see one of these thrown on the ice after the final game if we beat the Pens in the playoffs.
by Brainumbc on Mar 1, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Thanks heavens for subject lines….oof.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
Really? We’re rec’ing dead animals?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 1, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
It’s a dead Penguin… calling it an animal is an insult to all other animals everywhere.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
It’s a dead animal. That juvenile nonsense needs to go to the less mean-spirited boards.
"First Lady, I'm sorry I pimp slapped you into that china cabinet."
by Bald Pollack on Mar 1, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
All animals do die, and you’re suggesting throwing one on the ice of our main rival. Hardly classy behavior, but then what should I expect from someone who “eats poo”?
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
All humans crap, and we don’t post pictures of that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Peter: I’m looking for some toilet training books.
Salesman: We have the popular ‘everybody poops", or the less popular ’nobody poops but you’.
Peter: Well, you see, we’re catholic…
Salesman: Ah, then you’ll want ’you’re a naughty, naughty boy, and that’s concentrated evil coming out the back of you’.
by snowburnt on Mar 1, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brain, please stop. Please. Stop.
These pix make my day very unpleasant. We’re adults here.
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by Ovechwin on Mar 1, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
its not just the pic’s…..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
by highslot84 on Mar 1, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
rec’d
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When even I am finding the combination of puerility and lack of cleverness annoying, you know you’ve left the line well, well behind.
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
I agree with BP. This crap stops. Now.
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Actually.. Apologies to you and BP.. for real. It would have been more tactful and acceptable had I just photoshopped a noose on a rubber squeaky doll or something. That’s actually what I was going for but in a rush I did something that I can see now, was probably offensive. Most people were probably still finishing their coffee and/or breakfast so sorry to those whose stomachs churned.
Is that...
… a stoned penguin?
I think we should name him Sidney.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is when I’d like a “dislike” button
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I’m fine with throwing hats to delay games.
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by Steck It Out on Mar 1, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
But...
….that’d annoy that guy from Pittsburgh who’s like a national hero in Canada and stuff…..
Go PenzzzzZZz
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
You must not have been a Caps fan long enough. At some point I crossed a threshold. I no longer get as disappointed by the losses and enjoy the wins more. Of course, given who my other teams are this mentality is almost a need.
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I do think that the Cup just got a whole lot less optional, though.
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To that end I think this piece from Brian Duff goes well. The fact that he uses Maiden lyrics to make his point made me grin from ear to ear. The post even got a thread on Maiden’s message boards.
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I saw Ron Low play his first game as a Cap. I don’t know if that’s long enough to be a fan, but it sure makes me feel old.
by mechanicsville on Mar 1, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
I would rather get Biron over TT. If we take on that contract then GMGM has gone mad and should be let go. Ridiculous that this team would take that contract.
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They won’t. The Thomas thing doesn’t pass even an initial sniff test.
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Waiting for the high mileage to start having an effect on Miller.
He was epic for Team USA, though.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if whoever started that rumor is essentially just looking at potential tradebait goalies to fill what said rumor-starter believes to be the Caps’ biggest hole. I think this is what we call grasping at straws.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
As I’ve already said, I would be livid if the Caps acquired Thomas.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Mar 1, 2010 8:12 AM EST up reply actions
Same here.
Now if they get Vokoun on t’other hand, I’ll be dancing in the streets. NO ONE has done more with less this year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Thomas would not be a good pick up.
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I don’t really see GMGM going there.
Watch the hands, folks, not the mouth.
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especially with another 4 years after this one and $5 million cap hit.
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4 years was just too long a contract for him, especially since he’s now pretty much been supplanted by Rask. They should have signed him to a two year…at MOST.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t we just have to deal with a guy who had a 4 year deal with a $5M cap hit?
No thanks for TT….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
That would be beyond stupid for the long term ramifications, if nothing else. Do these rumor mongers actually look at rosters and contracts before hitting “post”?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions
o.O
Blasphemy?
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Chris, this one’s for you.
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haha
Yeah, I saw that—pretty funny.
I think he does get traded, but who knows. Poile isn’t going to take scraps when the better deal is actually to keep him.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 8:29 AM EST up reply actions
True enough… Peeters, Ranford, etc.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
God, I hope not. We might as well just put our faith in Theo/Varly if Thomas is our only other option.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Missed the GDT yesterday, skimmed through it and saw some complaints about Canada playing a trap but that was one of the more exciting games I’ve watched in recent memory.
I was watching with like 25 family member and family friends at my cousins 18th birthday party and the entire room was glued to the TV. Many of which probably hadn’t watched a full game in their life.
The celebration when Parise tied it up was amazing, as was the sudden deflation when Crosby scored.
I hate the outcome, but I kept thinking about how awesome the game was in spite of the outcome. It definitely affected my mood all day long yesterday, and still seems to be today, but that was some in credible 70 minutes or so of hockey, and I hope to God the NHL is in Sochi in 2014.
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Honestly, I think the trap was the only thing that gave the USA a shot to win. Who plays a trap with an all-star team? Crazy. If Canada had opened it up, I’m not sure it would have been as close as a 1-goal game in the last minute of regulation.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Mar 1, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
Another thing though, Luongo started looking shaky once he gave up a goal to Kesler. His rebound control was off and he was a little scrambly as the Americans finally got it going a little. The trap is the way to slow it down again
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
Luongo looked like he borrowed Varly’s glove yesterday.
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That’s why I found LeBrun’s column so comical this morning about how “solid” Luongo was and how this answers all his critics.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
Luongo looked shaky from the start. I knew it from the first couple shots that he’d give us a chance.
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He tried to blow it. Had a couple skitter just wide that could have made a difference.
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He kind of did blow it on the GT goal by gaaking the lazy wrister with his glove.
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Totally blew it. He coughed up rebounds all nights, and had at least two that I can think of leak through him that didn’t find the net.
That the US scored only twice is a total tribute to the backchecking efforts of the Canadian forwards, not to Luongo’s performance.
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Luongo just looked so….slow yesterday between his reaction times and especially jumping on rebounds. It was like he was playing in a vat of chocolate.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agree.
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Also Kesler’s goal was a bad one—through the “7-hole” or rather I guess “8-hole” on a butterfly goalie is pretty bad.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
That was a great deflection by Kesler though, so it’s tough to really get on Luongo for that goal against.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, it was, but still, through the body. Not the type of goal you want to give up in the gold-medal game.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I was entirely unimpressed with Team Canada. Other than a whipping of an over-rated Russia team, where was the excellence? It looked like Jaques Lemaire hockey out there. I guess when you can D-up that good, and you’re at home, and you have the benefit of the NHL size surface, you do what you have to do to get the job done and the team was built accordingly, but ugh.
And nice choking in the medal round…they nearly gag a 3 goal third period lead to Slovakia and then spend the last 10 minutes against the US desperately trying to to lose.
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read Lambert’s write up on Puck Daddy today (it’s linked here somewhere). He really takes Canada to task for pulling the Cinderella card.
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Got it – and yes, I see a little bit of that. You certainly can’t hate on Canada for being happy, I’m just perplexed about what I saw over the past two weeks. To an extent, I feel like Canada got away with one because Sweden, Russia and Finland blew up, and the US wasn’t quite up to it.
And really, did that gold medal game settle anything (well, other than the gold medal?)
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the gold medal game settled for me that the US was the most surprising (Switzerland was a close second) team in the tournament, in a good way (Russia, bad way! Sweden, bad way!), and maybe even the BEST team overall. Not the best group of individual players, but best TEAM. And damn does that, combined with what we saw at WJC, have me excited for Sochi.
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SUI and USA were hands down the best coached teams in the tournament, IMO.
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I really hope we see Switzerland build off this success. I think they were a better team than their final ranking showed. They should be damn proud that they played two very close games with the US and forced Canada into a shoot out.
there are a lot of countries who should be taking note of how well the Swiss were coached and learn some lessons.
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I think SUI will build. They had a nice upset last Olympics, and were better this time, though without the upset.
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One word; Niederreiter. (or however it’s spelled)
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Nino!!! That kid was amazing at WJC. He probably turned himself into a top 10 pick.
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Can SUI win the gold if the NHL pulls out of Sochi? My head tells me that they can if they can get a Hiller-esque performance in goal
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Extremely doubtful. Problem is then they are missing Sbisa, Streit, and Hiller, and most likely Niederreiter.
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Well, true, but they would be missing wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy fewer of their best players than any of the current medal contenders.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Nino
I get to watch him play here in Portland w/ the Winterhawks. Good size on the kid, he’s so young (17 or 18), so he’ll most likely be in uniform for SUI in Sochi.
Screw Portland! Just kidding of course, but I AM from Seattle.
And yeah, I’ve seen Nino play a few times. I was primarily there to look at other players but he stood out big time. Would LOVE to see him on the Caps one day but he won’t last that long in the first round!
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 2, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Problem is a lot of their players on that team were in their 30’s and Krueger is done as national team coach. That being said they’ve got some nice young talent and their WJC team this year impressed me. For a nation their size you’ve got to like how they’ve improved.
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I hear Krueger’s brother Freddy is going to come in and cut them down to size
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think Babcock did a good job as well
He would’ve been crucified had he gone to Fleury, and with a penetrable Brodeur and shaky Luongo, I think he made the right choice to go with the trap. He also got his forwards to backcheck like demons all the time.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see how going to the trap was the right move. It allowed USA to attack for half the game and eventually tie it. It also did the same thing for Slovakia. Just because they won doesn’t make it the right play.
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I guess the point was to try and neutralize the speed the US had. If Canada had opened it up Luongo would’ve allowed much more than two goals. I mean, a little back and forth and bang! Kesler deflection.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
And CAN would have scored more. USA had a hard time controlling CAN when they let loose.
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Here’s the thing: Canada buzzed the net all game long in the prelim game against the US. And Miller stoned ’em.
I liked the move to a defensive posture, myself.
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CAN took them lighter in the first game and still should have won. They played on another level in the elimination games.
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This Olympics, for me, introduced me to the Norwegian awesomeness of TORE VIKINGSTAD.
And that cool little Zuccarello Aasen.
I have a C on my heart.
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Let’s not forget our women of curling.
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I hated it when I saw the trap, but understood it, and would have wanted the US to do the same if the positions were reversed. That game completely lived up to the hype, so there’s no shame for anyone in losing. It will be interesting to see if there’s any long term increase in interest in hockey in this country.
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They played to an absolute tie in regulation. 2 goals each on 35 shots each. The difference was Crosby and his x factor. Realistically, it was never going to end any other way.
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Nah, I don’t think Crosby was really the difference. Credit to him for scoring the goal, but the difference was that the rules of the game changed and an all-star team is going to adjust to that much faster than a team of semi- (and not-even-) stars who have taken the whole tournament to gel into a cohesive 5-on-5 team.
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Crosby was invisible the entire tournament. He sneaks one by the pad of Miller and he’s a hero?
There was nothing magical or different about that play versus any others that didn’t turn into a goal, Miller just didn’t have the speed for one last stop.
He sneaks one by the pad of Miller and he’s a hero?
I guess so. I mean you have to give him his credit. He’s a clutch guy whether we like him or not. Had his team actually been on the verge of getting booted out of the tourney (which they weren’t really through the entire thing) he probably would have been more noticable.
Agreed. Dude made a play when one needed to be made. Props to him for that.
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you gotta figure if Sid gets two chances essentially one on one he buries at least one of em.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but the media fawning is going to be enough to make a maggot puke…
I can just hear it now… :-p
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Ehhh well.. I’ll sit back and give this one to Canada and Crosby. Let em enjoy the moment. Canada was the host country and their athletes went through some shit so let em’ eat their cake.
It’ll be that much sweeter if/when we meet the Pens in the playoffs.
I actually was glad it was Crosby who scored and not someone like Pronger.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Crosby is becoming so damn good I can’t have a healthy rivalry dislike for him much longer.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
That was my main fear and point. Sure he made one clutch play…sure it was the most important clutch play of the tourney, but where was he the rest of this tournament?
blah, I’m just bitter :-)
where was he the rest of this tournament?
.. thinking , “I’m going to score the most important goal of the whole tournament”
:)
And he wasn’t that invisible. He scored a clutch goal in the first game against the U.S.
But I feel ya’ :) I’m a little bitter too. At least I was yesterday. Today I woke up and went back into NHL mode. Maybe it was seeing Ryan Miller actually smiling during the closing ceremonies that put me in a better mood this morning. The man deserved the win and seeing him actually enjoy himself at the very end made me feel like he at least got something out of it (other than a silver medal.. which is nothing to scoff at)
Is every goal he scores “clutch” now? Is that the definition? Clutch = any goal in a non-blowout? His first goal against USA didn’t tie it, and ended up having no real impact on the game. People keep throwing out that he is a clutch player, but I don’t see it. I’m racking my brain for clutch examples besides yesterday, and all I can come up with is shootout goals, which, I’m sorry, don’t count as clutch. EC? Malkin was the man. SCF? Malkin was the man. Game 7? Talbot was the man. Game 7 against the Caps? Are we going to say Crosby was the difference there? In fact, can you say that Crosby was the difference in any one of the 7 games we played against them? The guy is a great player that has had the benefit of playing on great teams. Yesterday he scored a huge goal, but let’s not coronate him as the second coming of Joe Montana Chris Drury yet.
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Clutch would have been sealing the game with the breakaway in the third.
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Whoever was backchecking there did an outstanding job, if I remember the play correctly.
But, yeah, I take your point.
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It was Pat Kane, who played out of his mind for most of the game.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
Yup. It either had to be him or Parise to win that game for us in OT. Alas, Nieds turned the puck over to Pavelski.
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Still don’t like the kid, but that game yesterday made me respect him as a player a whole lot more.
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He looks like a jerk and he probably is, but he’s a top-shelf hockey player. I’ve been pimping him all year.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Clutch would have beensealing the game withregistering a shot on goal on the breakaway in the third
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I don’t like when people FTFY when it doesn’t fix it or help one say what they were trying to say.
If you want to say that’s what you think is clutch, cool, but do you need to change what I said to do that?
It’s probably 1 step above “oh, that was sarcasm” on the creativity dial.
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by zephyr on Mar 1, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And IMO
Expected performance from the world’s second best playerClutchwould have beensealing the game withregistering a shot on goal on the breakaway in the third
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I don’t really subscribe to there being any such thing as “clutch”. It comes down to luck, and natural skill, and Crosby had both of those things yesterday. Its not because he’s somehow preordained to score important goals in his genetic makeup.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Agree again. In spades.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 1, 2010 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think there are players that do it so regularly in crunch time that you can call them clutch. The ability to focus and perform when the pressure is high. But I think it’s a high standard and one great player scoring one great goal doesn’t reach that threshold. Great players are supposed to score big goals.
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And you think Crosby doesn’t do that on a regular basis?
Not trying to pick a fight. I just think Crosby is as much that kind of player as Ovechkin is.
No, I don’t. I asked for examples that weren’t shootout goals. Haven’t gotten one back yet. I’m thinking back on “potential clutch moments” for the Pens over the last couple years and I remember him being a non-factor in 2 SCFs, a non-factor in the most recent ECF. And Max Talbot, Malkin, and MAF being heroes in the last SCF. He’s a great player, no disagreement. He makes great plays, no disagreement. But I don’t get the sense that it’s always his hand on the dagger. If someone has other examples, I’m all ears.
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F&B I think you’re referring to my post yesterday on the same topic, and despite what I said there I’m going to agree with you. After thinking on in long and hard last night, I couldn’t come up with any other big clutch moments. I think this one was just so fresh in my memory.
So yes, I completely agree. And this “Hero of the Olympics” bullshit NBC is touting has got to stop.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
You weren’t the only one.
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Tell me
How different is Crosby’s goal from say, Mike Eruzione’s?
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Crosby gets paid 8.7 mill a year, is expected to be a dominant player, and was playing on clearly the most talented team in the tournament.
Tell me why that question is relevant.
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“Hero of the Olympics”
Everyone remembers the GWG, I guess.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Different from my point about clutch though.
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Sorry, I was originally replying to this
So yes, I completely agree. And this "Hero of the Olympics" bullshit NBC is touting has got to stop.
Disagreed here. He was ambitious, lost the puck, got it back, got body position on a great defenseman, found net to shoot at and scored. Not BS by any means. Not saying that you can ignore the other players, which is often the unfortunate case, but I don’t see who else the “hero” could be for the tournament, aside from Ryan Miller.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
If you’re looking for a Canadian hero, Jonathan Toews or Shea Weber both work just fine.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Eruzione was going to be a hero regardless, win or lose. Immortal – not if they lost, but still a hero.
Crosby, in a different way is a hero. He saved Canada’s ass from complete humiliation.
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Crosby’s goal won’t be replayed ad nauseum here for the next 30 years at every single olympics?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sure he made one clutch play…sure it was the most important clutch play of the tourney, but where was he the rest of this tournament?
Did you forget that he won the game for the Canadians in the shootout against Switzerland? Yea, there was that.
Are you just here to pick fights? Will you bother reading? Did you not see me several times say that I am not counting anything in the shootout?
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You need to chill man. My quote was not from “Fehr and Balanced”, it was from “snowburnt”. I hadn’t made it down to your post YET to deal w/ you and your issues. But since you obviously enjoy antagonizing anyone who disagrees w/ your Capital logic, I will.
According to your statement, about not counting anything in the shootout…why exactly would I do that? I can’t really think of anytime a player could be more “clutch”. Now, even if we go by your “standards” show me other players that have accomplished what Crosby has done at age 22 in their entire careers. And I"m not even talking current players, I’m talking about the Gods of Hockey. Actual legends. Yes, like it or not, this is the company Sidney is starting to keep. You don’t believe in him, and think it’s completely 100% media contrived and a fabrication.
If you can’t be a man and give credit where credit is due, well there is no point in continuing this conversation.
I give Crosby plenty of credit for being a great player, but clutch isn’t something I use lightly. And one goal isn’t enough. Shoot outs aren’t even hockey, so I definitely don’t consider that clutch. Shoot out skill is entirely separate. I don’t consider Jussi Jokinen clutch, for example. And yeah, Crosby’s done some great individual stuff, and been on some great teams. Both are great for him, but the two should not be conflated.
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Jussi Jokinen isn't clutch?
He’s only had one stretch, I agree, but he was good for CAR in that stretch, scoring in non-shootout situations all the time.
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by red army line on Mar 2, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
A.O.’s kinda the same way if you think about it. A lot of nights during the regular season where the team is cruising he seems to be invisible.
You really think AO is invisible regularly?
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No but I think he has a lot of games where he doesn’t show up offensively a lot… but I think that’s because he’s drawing defenders to him intentionally to free up some ice.. and doesn’t get enough for the other things he does other than scoring and hitting
His points per game is off the charts — esp this season. I don’t see where you see this
I think he has a lot of games where he doesn’t show up offensively a lot
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No doubt. I don’t argue that his PPG are high up there, but he’s got a lot of games where he accumulates 3,4,5 points in a single game and it takes a high and a few lows to make an average.
Maybe I’m just spoiled by having such an awesome player on the Caps that I’ve gotten used to monster performances.
To me,
and a few lows
≠
doesn’t show up offensively a lot
I think you’re probably just spoiled (as we all are =D) I really expect him to get a goal every single game too.
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Or maybe because, this season, . it always seems like he’s never a factor in those games that are hardcore blowouts
I can think of two blowouts where he wasn’t a factor…..
because he wasn’t on the ice!
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Three examples of blowouts where he didn’t register any of the goals:
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12/15 .. 6-1 vs Colorado.
He had 1 assist and was +1. The secondary scoring stepped up. Ovechkin didn’t have to do much. I wish I could muster up some stats on the # of hits he had that game, though.
1/16 7-2 vs islanders
No goals/assists +/- even. Although He did have 10 shots.
1/9 8-1 vs ATL
Again just 1 assist.
Sorry for my bad choice of words. I just mean there are nights where he “seems” invisible.. mostly due to the fact that secondary/tertiary scoring has developed so much this season that . Plus, like I said, it’;s due to the fact that Ovechkin is developing himself as a player.. learning how to do other things to help his team win other than just passing/scoring.
Sorry. my comments were meant as a GOOD thing. I just need to explain myself better
He had a bad tournament, and a few less-than-stellar games right before the break. That could be part of it.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
I think the ‘invisible’ part was what made it hard to stomach. That’s a term usually reserved for players that are dogging it.
What you are saying, as you now explain it, does make sense as a statement.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
True. I need to get in a habit of explaining myself better when using ambiguous words.
No hard feelings?
If you are serious and not just trying to be an instigator, you should leave here and never come back.
That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard on this blog and you are beyond saving.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
AO could get 5 minutes of ice time, never touch the puck once, and I still can’t imagine him ever being remotely invisible during a game
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I can
Some teams can do that. The New York Islanders come to mind quickly. So does San Jose.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
No doubt. But it’s a sport. If someone states an opinion with no harm intended and you start getting personally and act like a complete jerk for no reason.. then maybe you need to step outside and take a breath of fresh air
You’re seriously getting crabby for being called out on saying incredibly dumb shit like
A lot of nights during the regular season where the team is cruising he seems to be invisible
I don’t think that was personal, but you have to take ownership when you say something ridiculous.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Thought Sid showed some of what makes him great on the final play. Without the wheels and the anticipation to get into the right spot, and the quick release, it’s another pedestrian save by Miller.
It was a bummer, but it was a good play. I can guarantee you that every time AO has scored a goal like that I’ve yelled, “THAT’S why he’s Alex Ovechkin, and you’re not, [insert name of goalie]”.
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Those shot totals are very deceptive. Our shots weren’t nearly the quality of theirs. Their D did a dominant job in their end and didn’t let us get good looks in the quality areas at all.
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The US tried to take better shots but Canada wouldn’t let them get through to the net…you end up taking what you’re given which was much better than their job the first game of hoping 5 would go in on 20 random shots.
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True enough, but it doesn’t negate my point.
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Wasn’t trying to negate something, I was adding information relative to the point of why the US had more shots than last time.
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I know, just clarifying. CAN D did an amazing job protecting the slot.
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And the forwards did a tremendous job from the top of the circles on out. Very good defensive effort all around.
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Anyone see Corsi numbers for the gold medal game? I bet the US attempted a lot more shots than Canada
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SOG in regulation were 35 each. Dunno if that answers your question.
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About 5 seconds before Crosby scored I turned to my friend and said, "Crosby is going to win this by scoring a weak 5-hole goal on Miller again. "
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my roommate was in the process of saying “it had better not be crosby scoring the winning goal” just as crosby was scoring the winning goal. irony is a bitch.
That was the exact scenario in my living room too. Replace me for your roommate and the boyfriend for you. Face-palm is right.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Mario Lemieux apparently texted a friend during the game saying (paraphrasing) “Crosby will end it in OT. Just watch”
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
That would be like every Caps fan predicting AO cashing in if it were Russia in OT. Not exactly impressing me with the callshot.
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Well
Canada is so deep Crosby will only play 1/4 of the time, or only a little more. AO would probably get 1/3 in an OT.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think the point is that it isn’t exactly a huge stretch to pick Crosby to score a goal—especially since Lemieux obviously has a special relationship with him.
I’d be impressed if he had called Seabrook and it happened, but not for Crosby.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely not a big risk.
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by red army line on Mar 2, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
I was waiting for him to become the hero after scoring the winning goal on his 5th shootout attempt. Stupid IIHF rules.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I hope that changes. There’s no reason a medal game should ever go 4 v. 4 or to a shootout. I was genuinely surprised when they went 4 v. 4, as if it was just another game.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
As much as it sucks to have a shootout in a medal game, it’s not practical to have endless overtime. However, I like the ice cut and a 20 minute OT before the shootout. You had to know that those two teams weren’t going to play 20 minutes of OT at 4 on 4 without scoring, so if it keeps the game from being decided in a shootout I’m okay with it.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
It will be interesting to see if there’s any long term increase in interest in hockey in this country.
There has to be. Some of these kids were playing hockey, in part, because of 1980.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
We’ve got a really young team, how many of them even REMEMBER 1980!?!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
OK, not “some,” but at least a couple. I was thinking of Orpik (named for Herb Brooks) and Suter (son of one of the players) in particular.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
but it’s not like they’re playing hockey because they were a kid watching it on TV in 1980 and then begged their parents to take them to the rink. ANyoen who names their kid in honor of an Olympic hockey coach has already decided their kid will be a hockey player. And kids of players almost always player, even if it’s just as mites.
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Fine, I was just trying to think positive…
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 2:46 PM EST up reply actions
Many of which probably hadn’t watched a full game in their life.
:)
If there’s one silver lining to this whole game it’s that I had SO MANY friends who never gave a shit about hockey watching the game and txting me.
The game, regardless of the outcome, was indeed good for hockey in America.
Indeed, it was very good. Huge TV ratings. I had to go to a 2nd bar in NYC to watch because the first one had no room, not even standing (and the one across the street was close to packed). USA chants after every goal.
At the same time, after overhearing many “I never watch hockey” and “I couldn’t tell you the rules” comments, I was a little less sad that Canada won. This game definitely meant more to them, but that it meant as much as it did to so many Americans is a step in the right direction.
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by Scott in Shaw on Mar 1, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Can I link to Petchesky’s column again?
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I was skiing yesterday – actually, I was standing around in my gear frantically refreshing my Blackberry every 10 seconds or so reading ESPN’s live blog with Burnside, Hradek, and LeBrun. It was disgusting, the extreme adulation and praise for Team Canada.
They even went as far as to say, with 1:00 left, Ran Miller pulled, and during Canada’s timeout, that they started saying this has been great and we’ll see you all in Sochi in 4 years!!! Before the game was over!!!
When Parise scored, they were more than taken aback. It was a heaven to read the backpedaling.
I was well peeved when Crosby scored, but on balance it’s a very strong result for the U.S.. Canada played a smart game, I thought. They did what they had to in order to cover their one area of weakness (Luongo) and score more goals in the end. Can’t fault them for that.
Great moment when Parise tied it up, great effort by an out-gunned squad.
I enjoyed the game.
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I definitely thought the game was amazing despite the trap. And for people still grasping for a silver lining: That was one of the most stacked teams, if not the most, of my entire lifetime. They had a 2-0 lead and were outplaying their opponent. They went to the trap… and lost the lead. The evidence continues to mount that the trap is not the way to win hockey games anymore, but these relics of the past continue to force it down our throats.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 1, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
good silver lining find. May the trap die!
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I"m all for the death of the trap.
I was impressed w/ Canada’s defense in front of shaky Luongo. Hard to believe they were able to so effectively limit USA’s waves of forechecking. I wonder if the fact that most of the D were from the Western conference (even Pronger prior to this season) helped them weather the punishment down deep.
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(The Ducks and Predators have a few rentals they could move out, but given they’re in the playoff mix, that seems unlikely.)
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
we do not need colby armstrong. please god no.
by matthewlangley on Mar 1, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Owen Nolan? Ovi’s hero as a depth winger if Fehr gets traded for Hamhuis?
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I’d rather have Brunette, even if he’s on the hook for 2 next year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
I always have had a soft spot for Brunette—he’s had a solid career…a great late round Poile pick He can snipe it, too.
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Brunette...
…Was one of GMGM’s early mistakes as a young GM. He left Bruno available in the expansion draft and Nashville took him. In the same draft her protected… wait for it… Craig Berube.
Really!
I think he’s learned a whole bunch since then, to be sure. If they had kept Brunette that year and held onto him, he most likely would have been traded in the 2004 Fire Sale.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
If it’s Nolan or Brunette, I’m having a hard time seeing why Brunette would be preferable. Nolan provides a level of sandpaper that isn’t in great supply on this club
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Brunette’s money offensively, is 4 years younger, has the highest Corsi of any Minnesota forward (while playing against much tougher competition than Nolan), and almost doubles him in Defensive GVT. He’s Mike Knuble, only with a better QUALCOMP and significantly lower QUALTEAM (because he’s not playing with the best player in the world).
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
That should be “almost doubles him in Offensive GVT”
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
We’ve also been over many times why adding a player just for “sandpaper” is not necessarily a good idea.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Back Already?
Varlamov, Laing and defenseman Tyler Sloan, all reassigned by Washington Saturday, were scheduled to rejoin the Capitals and practice with the NHL club Monday.-Patriot-News (from today’s links)
It was like they were never gone. (I was kinda hoping they’d have Matty Perreault with them when they get back).
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
Press release. No MP.
/maybe next time
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That he’d get lost somewhere on I-81?
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by ns on Mar 1, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
This morning on the metro I heard a couple of people talking about USA/Canada, and just now I heard a couple of people across the hall doing the same. That says volumes about how good this game was for hockey.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 8:59 AM EST reply actions
old post from Mirtle, but I don’t recall seeing it before. Comparing each team’s scoring from last year to this year. The team at the top is a bit of a surprise:
The Caps have taken the biggest leap, which is incredible given they were the league’s third-highest scoring team last season, and are now one of the higher scoring teams we’ve seen in relation to the rest of the league.
interesting stuff in there
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Chris Burton, can I get your take on this guy? He’s 23, so there’s probably not too much more growing to do potential-wise. HF has him grading out at a 2C ceiling, 4C floor. What are your thoughts?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions
I think he’s definitely a 2C in the league. I disagree in that just watching him, I can tell there is a lot of untapped talent left. He has been bouncing back and forth between the AHL and NHL the last two years, but has finally stuck.
He’s an assist machine, and outside of Dumont the best setup guy on the team already (not counting Wilson, haven’t seen enough out of him). He’s an excellent skater and good on faceoffs. He’s becoming one of Trotz’s go-to options in the shootout thanks to his great hands. I can definitely see him centering a strong offensive line somewhere. I think he’s better than Rich Peverley, for reference.
He’s been played on the penalty kill with varying results. Sometimes makes my heart flutter on defense, but not often. His biggest problem is being unwilling to shoot. Always wants to make the extra pass. He had an open net the other day and made a drop pass to Erat in the slot, bam, turnover. Stuff like that.
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Interesting. I wonder if he could be pried away for wing help; looking at the HF boards, y’all not only have very thin wings in the pros, but no one that projects as a top-6 on the farm, either. Santorelli is on there as a RW and Taylor Beck is rated a 7.0D, but that’s considered unlikely to reach potential.
The Preds have Budish and Wilson as C prospects as well, both of whom look very solid.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think so
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Good stuff CB. Props for the info.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Nice post, thanks. O’Reilly now lives on my wish list.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions
Could be a real steal. I can see him or Santorelli going in a trade that garners us a Leopold-type player after we dump DH.
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Interesting line from Hockey Prospects.
For a 6’4 winger, Osala has the skating ability to play in the NHL.
I’ve heard some opinions of a different stripe….thoughts?
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My 2 cents, gathered from my own observations and opinions I respect: He doesn’t currently have the skating ability to play in the NHL.
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That was my take as well, and I’m in the lobby. Could be a nice dangle for someone else though.
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His size and scoring touch should be tantalizing. It’s like a guy that can throw 98 MPH in the MLB. Someone will always give him another chance.
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I disagree...
…He does have the ability to play in the NHL… but not in the Caps organization. He’s not a top 12 forward with this team, but he probably is with Columbus, Carolina or Edmonton. There are several folks in Hershey that would be NHL players if they weren’t stuck behind all the talent in DC.
Not that this is a bad problem to have…on the contrary, I’m quite happy about it, as are the fans in Hershey (and even further down in Charleston, SC.)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:41 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he’s a good enough skater right now to stick anywhere in the NHL.
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You need to watch an Oiler game or two… he’s better than half their forwards… skating or otherwise.
Admittedly it is debatable if the Oilers are in the NHL or not… they sure play like an AHL team.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think that’s true at all.
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The Oil have some great players, they just haven’t put it together. I’d take Ales Hemsky or Dustin Penner on my team any day.
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I think the Oilers could sure use him in Springfield/Oklahoma City. They’re the worst team in the AHL.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Interesting that Edmonton and their farm team are among the worst in their respective leagues, while the Caps and the Bears are among the best in theirs.
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And by “interesting,” you mean “WTF, Kevin Lowe?”
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty much. And supposedly the Oilers are desperate to bring Jagr back into the NHL.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
I like how they went Army on him and pretty much “promoted” him out of the GM job.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
He got the ol’ Mike Milbury.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of which, one of my older classmates here at NOVA grew up and played hockey with Milbury. I asked him some stories, and he talked about how they would get drunk and play hockey at midnight.
Gotta love that, at least.
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So when can I expect to see him on TV?
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Gotta give him a couple of years to sink into the background with his promotion so that when he shows up on TV everyone thinks he left his job in hockey management willingly instead of being forced out for being incredibly incompetent. That way everyone can ignore the fact that the “expert” on TV is responsible for crippling a once proud dynasty franchise for years after they have left their post with the team.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
By the time Edmonton is done at the deadline, a few of their current AHL players will be on the NHL roster.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
That’s a good thing, no? Get the younger guys some NHL experience. They’re starting from scratch, and they don’t really have much more to play for this season.
Eberle + Paarjavi-Svensson+possible #1 pick = a great foundation.
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by Steck It Out on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, my, yes. Eberle and Paar-Sven are quality prospects. Though our boy Cody has only two fewer goals than Jordan this season.
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And is a year younger, IIRC.
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(But referencing back to the “clutch discussion” up above, I have a hard time saying that Eberle isn’t clutch. That motherfucker just scores big goals.)
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Yeah, but Eberle’s played in a lot fewer games.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
And he’s got a ton of skill.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, fewer games. Think I pointed that out in my first Farm Report and them promptly forgot.
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I’ll bet that’s where I read it. Your farm reports are pretty well researched.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
I think of Eakin as a more skilled Della Rovere. He’s got a great scoring touch, and he’s a sandpaper guy as well. I’m really excited about his future.
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I don’t think he’s anywhere near as tough as SDR, but he has shown he’s willing to stand up for teammates. He’s more of a skilled guy, IMO. SDR is going to be a Steve Ott type punk with some serious heart and soul for the team.
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I’m just excited that both of them are Caps prospects. the wealth of talent, in different ways, in the system is ridiculous.
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You gotta be careful with getting young guys too much NHL time too early. I certainly think there’s a strong argument to be made that they rushed Cogliano and Gagne and it has hurt their development.
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That’s true. I imagine, though, that if they can dump some of their players (Souray, Staios) at the deadline, then insert the pieces you get back from those deals, add some young players (take them slow) and see what happens.
Big, big if in that statement, though.
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As long as they’re not dumping Staios or Souray on us, I’m cool with that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
See, this is the part where Glen Sather gets drunk as hell and makes trades for these types of guys…
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We’ve been in talks today with Edmonton today according to my ticket agent, but he just said that was all he knew…who other than Souray would we be talking to them about…DiPietro was also just being talked about on NHL Live as being “Out indefinitely” with swelling in his knee
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yech.
One man’s opinion, but there you have it.
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It wasn’t on display Saturday night in Hershey. One sequence stands out in my mind where he had the puck going up the right wing, gained the zone and then just could not get around the defender, even with a full head of steam. He looked Giroux-slow all night. I really hope he can pick up the skating, because I don’t see him translating as is.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
are you looking for a 6’4" winger to be able to make one on one moves like that or are you just looking for a guy who can be a power forward…work in the corners and front of the net. just wondering how much you can expect in for a big body like that.
i’m not a scout, but i would think the term “skating ability” means something different for a big wing than a smaller center.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
It wasn’t just that he couldn’t make the move, he couldn’t get the speed going to make the move he was trying to make. His change of direction was poor and his straight-line change of directions was middling. I was watching him when he was on the ice because I’ve heard his name thrown around out there as a potential Knuble successor and I just didn’t see anything that makes me think he could do it besides his frame.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Well at least he’s a different goal scorer than Giroux, I think. Giroux seems to be more of a finesse goal scorer, where OO is better at just banging home loose pucks from anywhere within 20 feet of the net. If he gets his Mike Knuble on then maybe he has a future.
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If I’m OO, I’m offering free baby-sitting to Knoobs this summer. That’s really his only shot and I still think he has to improve his skating to do it.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
So Fehr/ShaMo for Hamhuis and a mid round pick
Mid Round pick for Owen Nolan
Theo & Marcus Johanson for Vokoun
hello Stanley Cup.
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Don’t think you’re getting a pick back in a Hamhuis deal.
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i’d rank the trade for hamhuis/comparable dman number 1 priority. i’d make the vokoun number two but not if carlson is in the mix. nolan would be a nice pickup too. conditional mid-round pick.
i’d say a nolan-like deal is very likely. the other two less likely, but not out of the question…
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I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade, but this is probably the last significant mention we’ll have of hockey on ESPN until the Cup Finals. The suits at the World Leader have already hitched their wagon to one winter sport and I haven’t seen any sign that they’re unhappy with that decision. Like it or not, they view hockey as a regional sport and in many ways they’re probably right.
last significant mention besides Caps-Pens we’ll have of hockey on ESPN until the Cup Finals.
They take some time off for that. If nothing else, around 1/3 of ESPNEWS
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Last significant mention besides Ovechkin-Crosby.
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Very true
and may continue through around half the postseason, at that.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
It begins – Pens first on the board. 2nd round pick to FLA for Leopold.
Np fire sale here, no sirree.
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He does, but a second rounder is a pretty high price to pay for him.
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Eh, it’s nearly a third-rounder. Such is the current market.
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Yeah, but I think that distinction is less important in the rounds after the first. The difference in talent and potential in the 50s versus the 30s is much smaller than the difference between the aughts and the 20s.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Well that depends on the draft. I don’t think that was true for either of the last two years, but time will tell. I’m under the impression that this year’s draft isn’t very deep, so giving up that 2nd doesn’t hurt them much.
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I think there are exceptions (Green, Carlson, as you point out), but on the whole the difference between a 51st and a 31st is smaller than the difference between a 25th and a 5th. Not to say that nothing ever comes out of those slots, clearly they do.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
There are a couple problems here. First, as I already highlighted, it completely depends on the draft. Second, in recent years the prospect depth has grown very quickly. Historically you’re right, after the first round it’s all a crap shoot. But for the last couple years we’ve had “first round talents” going in the second round. We’ve seen Tyler Meyers not even be a top 10 pick. It’s not just Green and Carlson that are the exceptions. There are tons of them. Dupres, MDZ, Sbisa, Eberle, Tedenby. There are a lot more quality players that are safe bets outside the top 10 picks now. Clearly that top 5 is where you’ll find the best players, but I think the difference between 6-46 is much smaller than it has traditionally been (at least in the last couple drafts). This year I’ve heard is a weak draft, but we’ll see how it turns out. I thought last year was supposed to be weak and then all of a sudden two months before the draft people started hyping how deep it was. The 2008 draft was stacked, and will likely go down as the best defensive draft in recent memory. It’ll be interesting to see how it all plays out going forward.
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How is the 2008 draft better for defense than 2003?
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In my mind 2003 was more forward heavy. It’s an amazing draft, but let’s take a look.
2003: Suter, Coburn, Phaneuf, Seabrook, Burns, Stuart, Belle. That’s the first round. Some really good players in there, but those aren’t the names that made that draft famous. In the second round you get Carle, and Weber (possibly the steal of that draft, how many teams would like a do-over on that?).
2008: Doughty, Bogosian, Pietrangelo, Schenn, Myers, Teubert, Karlsson, Gardiner, Sbisa, MDZ, Cuma, Carlson. That’s just the first round, and it’s insane. The 2008 D draft looks like 2003 F draft. In the second round you have Team CAN WJC players Hamonic and Scandella. And Eric Mestery. These guys haven’t developed enough to really know how good they’ll be, but I count 9(!) guys that already have NHL experience from that draft. 5 are already mainstays on their team’s blueline.
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I think I’d rather have Suter, Phaneuf, Seabrook, Burns, and Weber than Doughty, Bogosian, Myers, and Carlson.
I see what you’re saying, though. If you include the forwards, 2003 was a redonkulous draft. Its hard to compare the defense corps just yet because 2003’s are much further along.
Nashville also took Klein and Sulzer in that draft…good gosh. If they got a mulligan, I almost wonder if Weber wouldn’t have gone in the top 3? Fleury, Staal, Horton…yep, I’d take Shea over all those guys.
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These guys haven’t developed enough to really know how good they’ll be, but I count 9(!) guys that already have NHL experience from that draft. 5 are already mainstays on their team’s blueline.
How much of that is related to the new salary cap world? Younger = cheaper.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe a little bit, but they’d still be cheap if they played out their junior eligibility and rushing guys that aren’t ready is terrible for development, especially D. The guys that are mainstays are doing it because they can hack it in the NHL.
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First off, Phaneuf and Burns have seriously regressed, so I’m not sold on them. Second off, you selected just 4 guys from 2008. The broader point was the quantity of quality D. There are no doubt high-end D in 2003, there are just more in 2008.
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maybe so, maybe so
Either way- both awesome drafts.
So-where you takin Weber if you get another shot at that?
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You’re nuts! Nuts! Doughty and Myers are the two best defenseman you listed. That alone would make ’08 the better draft.
Then Bobby Orr’s draft or Nicklas Lidstrom’s draft is automatically the best defensive draft ever? Need to take a look at the group as whole, or at least a lot of players.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Clearly that top 5 is where you’ll find the best players, but I think the difference between 6-46 is much smaller than it has traditionally been (at least in the last couple drafts).
While that’s true, my point is the difference in observable value is just that a 20 draft slot difference matters less in later rounds than it does in the first. It matters most at the top of the draft, somewhat less in the second (although the gap is narrowing, as is the talent gap in general as the mean player ability rises), less still in the 3rd and so on.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
The “nearly a third” point is a good one, which I hadn’t considered.
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Except that if you follow that logic you end up devaluing every good team’s draft picks. Mike Green and John Carlson were nearly a second. And a second isn’t nearly as good as a first. So giving up a late first isn’t really going to hurt you.
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Not sure I follow you here. The point, to my mind, was simply that it’s a low second round pick, so that has to be taken into account. That’s all I’m saying.
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Gotcha. My point is that those picks are still extremely valuable. One look at our farm proves that point.
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Not sure I really get the lovefest for Leopold around here. I’ve never been all that impressed with him, in Florida or in Colorado, and I know some Avs fans who were not thrilled with his work ethic when he was out there.
Agreed. He’s an upgrade, but a very marginal one.
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I like the move. Expected Caps to make a bid last deadline for him. With Gonch maybe done next year. It could provide a bandaid in a way for the Pens
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like to hide the neosporin, though, and keep that shit from healing quickly.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
He’s better than McKee, Eaton, and Skoula, so at the very least he upgrades the last pairing. He’s probably better than Goligoski, too, no?
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Pretty sure I’m better than at least 2 of those guys you just mentioned – and I can’t skate. So…grain of salt and all that.
I just don’t see him as being THAT much of an upgrade for the Pens, and would definitely not have been much of an upgrade here.
Well, if it comes to the Caps, then I’m right with you. I wouldn’t want him here.
The Pens have had a problem on D, though, and I’d prefer even minor upgrades not take place.
Sure you agree.
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Leopold would be an upgrade here, even if he wouldn’t be an ideal top 4. At worst he’s the same caliber as Potsy.
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Leopold was gone, fire sale or not.
Thats a stiff price, but a good move from Pittsburgh. He’s a solid player.
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Wow, Florida definitely gets more than I would have expected for Leopold. He certainly helps the Pens too.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
That’s likely a testament to the market, and one of the reasons why if Hamhuis for Flash is going to happen, it should happen quick-like.
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Agreed. Hamhuis is better than Leopold (and is a better fit for the Caps…)
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
Leopold – 6’1" Dman w/ 18 pts and minus 7 on the year.
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Consider his former and now his new teammates… his numbers will improve playing with Sid, Geno, and co.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Decent pick-up, but you have to wonder how long the Pens can keep trading away draft choices and prospects before it seriously comes back to bite them.
They’ve got a core. And they’ve got a Cup. Everything else is gravy. Worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
They’re the defending champs… they are playing for this year, not 2013.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
The Penguins are now at a point in their developmental curve where draft picks are almost a full round beneath the prime picks (the product of winning a Cup or finishing high in the standings). A second is almost a third, and what it does is slide the scale to where they will probably rely more on trades/free agents to fill roles. Those are the sorts of roster spots that can be swapped out every few years (the Devils are good at this). That’s what having a core of players entering their primes and locked up for a little while does for a club.
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… and why GMGM should loosen the purse strings a bit without fear.
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Drafting well in those rounds hasn’t hurt either.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 1, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Can you think of any particularly good draft picks? I’m looking at their prospect pool right now and I don’t see evidence of that. Their top prospect was drafted by ANA. Their second prospect was drafted in the first round last year. Maybe some of the lower guys turn out to be something, but I don’t see any Cody Eakin’s, Braden Holtby’s, or SDR’s on that list. Of course, it may just be that I’m not as familiar with their farm but I’ve talked about it with Hooks and he has led me to believe that they don’t have anything like that as well.
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Talbot, Kennedy and Letang are all sub 2nd round draftees who are roster players.
It’s not up to date, but I used this as a jumping off point for my “GMGM isn’t the nuts” post before last year’s draft.
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Good finds, but that list still doesn’t wow me.
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I should stipulate that I’m not looking at it from the quality perspective (Max Talbot to prove a point sure ain’t going to do it), but that in the cap-enforced world, there should be a little more consideration to lower-round draftees who can develop into contributors.
We’re not really going to see where the Caps’s organization’s development really is until ‘10-11, unless they’re going to “move some chips in the pot” for a deadline acquisition.
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Talbot is a good example. Drafted and developed Talbot is surely cheaper than FA Talbot. You need to find guys to contribute in the draft. Talbot is a great team guy, and has the two most clutch goals the Pens have seen since the early 90s.
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Besides, it’s the whole “keep them for cheaper and/or longer” argument. I’d want MP to come in camp, kick arse and take the 3C spot, because if nothing else, I’d like to save the $750k or more to bring in a FA . Same thing for Beagle when Bradley’s contract expired (not the best example), etc.
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Agree completely. Hopefully Pinner, Beagle, Gordon can continue to develop and fill our our lower lines in the next few years. Remember, Steckel wasn’t an NHL player when he was 25.
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Some would say Steckel’s STILL not an NHL player
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Who? He’s awesome at his role.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
As long as that role is 4C.
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Ick. No thanks to Stecks on the third line.
He’s a checking line center.
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But..but…he scores in the playoffs!!!
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And that role is consigned to 4-5 minutes a game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta remember thats on the Panthers.
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I just realized he’s American; why wasn’t he on the team instead of Whitney????
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Whitney? Gleason was by far our shittiest defender.
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Disagree, but point still stands—they were both bad, and he’s better.
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I admit that I heavily weighted yesterday’s game in my evaluation – every time I looked up, Gleason was screwing up. Rafalski, too, for that matter.
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The first Canadian goal started on a giveaway by Rafalski. While he was the best D-man in the tourney, he had some screw-ups yesterday.
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He was voted the best D-man in the tourney. A couple others were better defensively, he just scored a lot.
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He had a couple of good games, offensively. But he was terrible yesterday, including on the Gold-winning goal.
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Mike Green should have replaced him!
/CI’d
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Did anyone else see that Anze Kopitar is pursuing US citizenship so he can play for us in Sochi? Don’t have a link, but I did see it.
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Hah. He’s the only Slovenian player in the NHL…but that would be awesome if he played for the U.S.
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He’s incredible!
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He’d be the white Petr Nedved
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’ve always liked Anze and have always felt like he’s a guy the Caps should’ve been in position to draft in 2005.
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Yeah, that draft made me very angry. There had to have been more fair alternatives than that format.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t seen a reputable source for that, but wow would that ever make my day. Kopitar is freakin’ legit.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
It was from a pretty reputable tweeter last week, can’t remember which one, but it struck me as being a good source.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
That would be amazing. Kopitar will be in his prime by the time Sochi rolls around.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
Do it!
That just made me hard… Love me some Kopitar. Now, if only we can get Rob Schremp…
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Could John Carlson make 2014, a la Drew Doughty this year. Methinks maybe.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
IMO, that first goal is on EJ, not Rafalski. EJ gave him the puck in a terrible position when he had a better passing option available.
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Definitely an awful play by EJ.
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Great rip-off by Richards though.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Whitney’s drop pass to his own slot was as bad a play as anybody made the entire tourney. He might not have been the worst, but that play was awful.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
At the very least Corey Perry knows how to celebrate a goal. The only knock I got now against Crosby, aside from his beating my favorite teams, is that his goal celebrations are a little awkward.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
You mean "The Screamin' Baboon"?
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
How’d you like to be this guy’s dentist?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
face of evil
the photo on Puck Daddy reminded me of the trailer for Legion where the demon’s jaw suddenly drops like 3 feet down.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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You could call this one “The Pooping Baboon”
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looks like he just saw the Boogeyman
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He kinda looks like Liu Kang from Mortal Kombat
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
That would’ve been cool, a la Milan Hejduk. But unclassy.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
It’s his war face. He looks ready to punch a dude in the yambag from behind.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
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Actually, i’ve been reminded of this as well
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
How the heck did I mis that one from above?
Gotta call my eye doctor.
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Hey—I heard Leopold was traded to the Pens….
by bilspacecadet on Mar 1, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Someone on teh twitterz last night noticed that Sid’s “A” went missing from his sweater.
Guess Canada wanted him to look extra nice-n-clean for all the gold medal photos.
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He didn’t have an “A” yesterday.
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“Waaaah…they’re throwing hats on the ice….”
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry...
When I think hockey and someone acting like a baboon .. this is the first thing that comes to mind:
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FYI I just found that photo here: http://capitalskremlin.blogspot.com/2009/01/semin-kombat.html
As much as I like to photoshop, I can’t take credit for that one
If Semin gets into a fight on EA NHL10 with their new fighting engine, does he do this?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t that be cool. He might have to do it again before they give it a chance. I think the official name for this fighting style should be the “bongo”…. sacrificing quality punches for quantity in hopes of the opposing player being just too stunned to fight back.
It may seem kinda girly to fight like this but seriously… Most “tough guys” always seem to grab your jersey to tie you up so neither of you get any quality chances.. instead.. just you end the fight falling to the ground and “looking tough”. If you’re lucky you’ll fall on top of the other guy and just “call it a win” because he ended up on bottom.
Rafalski looked like he ran out of gas. Seemed like he and Suter were on the ice every other shift… for the whole tournament.
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I didn’t want them to ride Suter that hard, but he was easily the best defender on Team USA and if he didn’t get that much TOI, they don’t make it to the gold medal game. So steady.
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You just noticed Gleason more because Whitney was benched the last half of the game. He crammed all his fuck ups into a half a game, culminating in the 2nd goal. Gleason has been a disappointment, but I think Whitney was by far the worst D on the US all tournament long.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I think you only got confused into thinking that because Whitney got benched so you didn’t realize how bad he was playing. Gleason sucked, but he didn’t Tee up a goal in the slot and at least saw the ice when the game was on the line.
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I agree that I thought Whitney was worse, though that’s not a compliment to Gleason. I’ve now figured out why Gleason confuses me so. He appears to have more offensive game than he actually does. Same goes for his defense.
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Well said. His play against AO this year tricked me into thinking he was good against top opposition. I won’t make that mistake again. Wonder how CC feels watching JJ out-perform Gleason by far. By far.
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Obviously going to college was a huge mistake by JJ.
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Except that it got him out of Carolina!
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Sorry I should have added that my comment was snark. I was alluding to just what you said.
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I know it was. I was building on your snark.
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If the Caps get out-maneuvered by the Pens again, I am going to be seriously pissed. George and Ted, it’s time to get off the sidelines and go for it all.
by b.orr4 on Mar 1, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
This is the first day. They’ve got two more days. If anything doesn’t happen today, you gotta think they’re at least discussing options.
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Actually, they probably don’t. I’d be surprised if this wasn’t the busiest day in the trading window. The deals that involve the most important assets (not necessarily the priciest) — the ones that other teams want — were probably worked out over the break. A team that holds onto a trading asset until Wednesday risks having the market drop through the floor for it.
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That’s true, and you have to think that other teams are interested in the pieces that GMGM is looking at. I do think, though, that GMGM’s style of play is more subtle than the rest, and he’s not one to make a big splash, like mentioned above.
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by Steck It Out on Mar 1, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions
It also works both ways, though. Poile must have been negotiating about Hamhuis with several teams. Maybe he just holds onto it and see who is most desperate Wednesday.
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Apparently Philly has some interest in DH.
It still wouldn’t shock me (if the right deal doesn’t come) if we hang onto Hamhuis. Don’t want to, but thats DP.
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I’m sure everyone has “interest” in DH. How many teams can fit GMDP’s reciprocal interest?
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not everyone
Some teams don’t need a fringe top pair defenseman, Washington does.
Only a few teams fit the criteria, really. Washington, San Jose, Chicago are all I can see.
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I seem to recall reading that each playoff game = at least $1m in revenue for teams that own the building in which they play. If DH helps them win one round, that’s at least $4m there – nothing to dismiss too easily if the return for him isn’t right. Then you move his rights in the offseason, like they did with Kimmo and Hartnell. They could do worse.
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exactly
Good call on the Hartnell and Timonen references. This is exactly the scenario I can see going down.
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Well, someone is going to make a ridiculous offer for Vokoun, and probably Hamhuis, which is not GMGM’s MO.
So there are 2 of the prime jewels in the trade sweepstakes. I am hoping for the best, bit i think most of us will be disappointed. Personally, I think George needs to overpay for a solid defender before they get a goalie.
A friend of mine pointed out that Philly could make a strong push for Vokoun. It would help this this season but would screw them royally for next season. They’s be in Salary Cap Hell
http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=PHI&season=0910
TV would bring their cap hit up to 54.3 million, leaving around 3 million total to re-sign like 6 or 7 guys. Include RFA to be Brayden Cobourn who will likely command at LEAST 2 million just by himself. Probably more.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
I already have a suspicion that Coburn is gone, with our without Vokoun. I just don’t see how getting Vokoun makes them better because they’ll have to move serious talent out. They’ll have a better G, but worse F/D. Briere has a NMC and he’s the only guy I’d move if I were Holmgren. Carter seems like the other potential trade bait, but if I’m PHI I don’t move him unless I absolutely have to.
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I’m sure somehow Montreal can take the Briere contract. I mean, that’s what they do.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
If some team is foolish enough to trade for Briere, their entire front office should be immediately fired.
Well by that criteria I can think of 3 teams at least!
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Paging Sutter and Sather…
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Because Sutter was a good hockey player and Sather oversaw the Oilers dynasty. Clearly both are predictors of NHL GM success 20+ years later. The NHL will eventually break from the Old Boys Club way of doing things, but it’s not there yet.
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Hm. Leopold’s more of an offensive D-man, so it’ll be interesting to see how that works out. PIT needs defensive help, though.
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Pens have $735,000 in raw cap space, allowing them to take on about $3.3M in annual contract value, according to Capgeek
Leopold accounts for $1.75M of the remaining space. This leaves a balance of $1.55M (math mine) for the Pens to play with.
I have to think the Pens would like to add a W? I doubt they can get an effective player for $1.55M annualized. Two options here: stash one of their D in the A and bank a little more cap space to accomodate the trade. Or trade a player on the roster (presumably a D) in the transaction to bring in a W.
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Or trade a player on the roster (presumably a D) in the transaction to bring in a W
Rumor is Mark Eaton ($2 million, impending UFA) might be the guy they deal, if they go this route (which I think they’ll at least try)
Wayne Gretzky had it wrong: 100% of the shots Gary Roberts doesn't take DO go in.
Jeez, Mark Eton makes $2M?? Gonna have to check out his stats, I had always thought of him as a marginal NHL player…but I will admit that an image of the former center for the Utah Jazz always leaps to mind when I think of him…so that may color my perceptions of him as a slow, stiff, lug.
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I’d take the auto mechanic over the Pen’s Eaton. At least he’d attempt to get in the way.
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He’s a better top 4 than Tom Poti!
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Not so sure about that. Poti has better offensive numbers. On the defensive end they seem to be similar, but there again Poti is slightly better. Eaton can clear the defensive zone better than Poti that is for sure. :D
The fact that we are comparing these two as top 4 guys explains why Pens and Caps fans have defensive concerns.
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Snark again.
Earlier in the year we had a PIT fan here trying to argue that Eaton was a better top 4 than Poti.
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I wasn’t sure if it was that, or your Poti-hate :)
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Exactly my problem. If it was anyone but F&B I would have gone snark right away. In any case, I’m not reading between the lines well at all today.
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A safe bet is that any F&B post with an exclamation point should not be taken literally. He’s as anti-emoticon as it gets.
If they want to stash a guy they have to do it quick, right? You can’t fill his spot until he clears waivers, which takes 24 hours.
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Also, Steve Ott (for whom I had some affinity) has re-signed in Dallas.
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4-year deal around 12 mil. To think, he was once a 50-goal scorer in the OHL.
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You think they would have learned about giving a pest a 4 year contract after the last time…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions
“I throw a fastball, a curveball, and sloppy seconds”
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by Steck It Out on Mar 1, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Nice shoes… look like something you might have seen in The Devil Wears Prada
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They don’t even match his outfit…
wait…what?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
That grip sure looks like a change up.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
When you go to throw out the first pitch (even a sloppy second one… sorry), they ask you not to step on the rubber.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
Never pegged you as a Steve Ott fan.
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I am. I like a little bit o’ unpredictable.
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Ott’s hysterical. I liked when he was doing that gimmick of overtly reading AHL guys’ last names
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM EST up reply actions
According to Bob McKenzie’s twitter the Pens just traded a second round pick for Jordan Leopold from Florida.
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I’m hearing that the Pens just traded a second round pick for Jordan Leopold from Florida.
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Eklund is adding that Booth and Ballard are going to Pitt in exchange for their 3rd round pick in 2010 and a six pack of Natty Light.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 1, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
beer recs
any recommendations for Belgian White ales?
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by ns on Mar 1, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
I actually really like this from Flying Dog.
I also like staying on hockey topics in Clips posts.
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNN!!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Malkin’s involved in that deal too.
/E5
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Brandon Wheat or Sacramento?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, he’s going back in time and will be playing for The Kinks
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
They should have never let Mick Avory go.
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Ahh, completely missed that it was already discussed above. My bad JP.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Mar 1, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
Dreger’s trade deadline blog with some juicy tidbits
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Rumor: Seidenberg has been traded to OTT.
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linkage?
Him and Leopold are price-setters for Hamhuis.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Link (though I have no idea how reputable).
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thx
I want some Stephen Weiss!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
hell i’d take two time cup winner Corey Stillman in a heartbeat.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t even mind Reinprecht after hearing CP’s analysis of him
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Be weary of Reinprecht. His numbers are misleading. He had a ridiculous hot streak in the fall/early winter and put up most of his points then. Hasn’t done much since.
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Kinda sorta like B-Mo, eh?
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You could say that. Reinprecht also has another year left on his deal. I also think his hot was hotter than BMo’s hot.
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Seidenberg/OTT was swirling around last night.
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McKenzie’s Twitter:
I won’t be too surprised if Carolina’s Aaron Ward is the next veteran D-man on the move
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:27 AM EST reply actions
To think that 29 other teams didn’t want to spend a waiver claim on him two months ago, they may spend a 2 or 3 to get him now.
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by Bald Pollack on Mar 1, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
He’s also just said that the B’s aren’t in the Hamhuis dealings
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
WOOT
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Thrashers SBN blogger, Falconer, just tweeted Thrash prefer to extend Kubina, and he has a NTC
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Why bother? They’ve got enough young D there to replace him, and they can get a good haul back for him.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
They’re not winning this year or next year anyway.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree. I think they can make the playoffs, and Kubina’ll be a big part of that. A playoff appearance outweighs getting a return on him, IMO
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
That’s the kind of thinking that led to Coburn for Zhitnik.
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I meant to clarify that this is Waddell we’re talking about.
if I were GM, I keep Kubina to make the postseason, and either trade at draft or extend. Franchises like Phoenix, NSH, ATL, need playoffs really bad for financial reasons.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they have a shot at the post season. Besides, its a better move for them in the long run to trade what good assets they have with expiring contracts to get picks and good prospects that have better long term potential.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Problem is you can’t trade a guy with a NMC at the draft. He can just veto and negotiate on the open market. Why would he accept any trade at that point? The only reason he’d do it now is to go compete for a Cup.
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Why wouldn’t he accept the trade? It doesn’t prevent them from waiting to hit the open market, it just means a different team hold their rights for a month.
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by Killer_Carlson on Mar 1, 2010 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
I guess you’re right. I just don’t see what’s in it for him to accept. And if he says “fine I’ll accept but I’m not signing” how many GMs are going to want to make that trade? (Of course, if GMDW is smart he won’t tell the other GM that he won’t sign early.)
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this is just me being silly, but assuming we pick up help at G, which one of our young goalies is headed out? Would people be happy if we gave up one of them if it meant getting Vokoun, for example?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt it would be a straight up trade, but I agree with you. Im not particularly attached to either, plus we have Holtby in the pipeline
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What do you think would be included with Neuvy for Vokes?
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Thing is, I don’t think FLA wants another G. They have Markstrom and Salak and I think they expect one of them to carry the torch.
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Well obviously, even FL not that dumb to do that deal straight up, but as part of a larger package? Hell yeah.
I’m not even sure FL would want one of our young goalies back….they have Markstrom in their system, and Alexander Salak is still just a baby
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
im just playing devils advocate cause im bored, but what if the price was alzner/carlson and a pick?
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I would throw in Alzner, but not Carlson.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Lots of discussion on this in Saturday’s Clips. Good reading, IMO.
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I would be willing to deal either one of those for TV. In a heartbeat.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
FLA doesn’t need a young goalie and wouldn’t be interested in one.
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Neuvirth and a pick
Hold on to the rest. I would be royally fired up if we were to move Varly and some of our prospects.
by Battenburg Baron on Mar 1, 2010 10:37 AM EST reply actions
Corey just tweeted:
13 hours ago Alex Ovechkin was at the closing ceremonies in Vancouver. Now he’s on the ice at Kettler.
Looks like Corey’s back on the beat (I guess for CSN?).
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And everyone’s a winner.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 10:41 AM EST reply actions
He’s better than everyone except Poti, Green, and Schultz, IMO, but not as good as Hamhuis.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions
If he’s a legit 4D, I hope GMGM is burning up the lines to Sunrise.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
OTT with Seidenberg and Volchenkov?
Formidable.
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I haven’t seen a Russian and a German work that well together since the partition of Poland.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Semi-Related-to-the-Trade-Deadline-Topic of the day
but do other sports (baseball, football, basketball) have the plethora of faux-trade-rumor sites that hockey seems to have? Or does that result from the lack of legitimate mainstream media coverage of hockey present in the United States?
Or is it just a bunch of people looking at Eklund and saying, “well, if he can just make stuff up and get people to pay $20 a pop for access to a chart, why can’t I?”
I follow baseball and football a little, but not nearly to the same extent I follow hockey.
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Baseball trade deadline is huge. I don’t think the other two are as big (certainly not the NFL), but I could be wrong.
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NFL trade deadline is too early to be much of a factor. It was October 19th. Not even halfway through the season.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
The other deal with football is that training camp is more important and the plays are far more complex. It’s much harder to integrate a new guy into a larger team in football than in other sports.
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great point
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
Plus it takes so damn long to get integrated into an NFL team that trades in the middle of the season aren’t practical.
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by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
No one really makes trades in football, so it doesn’t matter. Baseball really doesn’t have a deadline because you can still do waiver deals.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but baseball’s trade deadline – even the nominal one – is pretty big.
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I don’t deny that for a second. I was pretty Halladay’d out by the end of last year.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
The Non-Waiver deadline is July 31st I believe. The Waiver deadline is August 31st and those trades in August can get pretty wild because a third party can effectively block a trade from taking place by submitting a waiver claim on a player being snuck through.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
I googled that and I got an interview show on the NHL Network.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome! Hockey is on the map!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
mlbtraderumors.com posts every rumor possible and then some.
by twistedlogic on Mar 1, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Tarik tweets
The band is back together. All Caps are accounted for today at KCI, including the Alexes. Laing, Sloan and Varlamov are back, too.
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They're on a mission from God.
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by Wheeler on Mar 1, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wellwood and Brodeur?
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by Addison H. on Mar 1, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
hahahaahaha
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe a photoshop job of Ovechkin in Ackroyd’s place and Gabby in Belushi’s?
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
The anticipation is killing me. I’m going to be really unproductive at work until Thursday because I’m going to be constantly checking twitter and z-ing through threads here.
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Corey Tweets that Neuvy’s been sent down.
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Maybe they want him playing against Bridgeport Tuesday since the Caps don’t play again till Wednesday?
I wonder what this means for potential deals of Theodore
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
http://scottywazz.blogspot.com/2010/03/absurd-goalie-monday-jim-carey.html
Some Jim “Ace” Carey for your reading pleasure.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 10:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Nice read, thanks for sharing.
by Kerry Fraser's Hairspray on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Sssssssssssmokin’.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
No reaction to the news that the Caps are shopping Pothier. Hmm.
Actually, this makes a lot of sense to me. I really doubt that we resign him next year, and we have more than enough d-men in the system to come up and take his place. Might as well get a draft pick out of him, right?
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It was discussed a bit yesterday, and I think the consensus was, “Huh… hard to imagine much of a market for him or the Caps dealing him given their lack of blueline depth.” But anything can happen.
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?
Green and ??? Plenty of dmen, but not plenty of puck movers.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
I’m not comfortable with dealing Pothier at all unless he is replaced via trade. His loss would virtually guarantee Erskine and Sloan regular spots in the lineup.
by Kolzilla on Mar 1, 2010 11:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
@Buccigross
Sunday’s gold medal game drew a higher overnight rating than every World Series game since 2004AND every NBA Finals telecast since 1998, and every NCAA Men’s Basketball Final Four game since at least ’98. And every Saved by the bell
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 11:10 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Or the Mummer’s Parade?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
with participants like that, I just can’t understand why everyone was so shocked that the Mummers did better numbers than the Winter Classic!
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
@stevelepore
Game drew a 33 share. Meaning 1 in every 3 Americans with a TV watched.
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by Sombrero Guy on Mar 1, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You know what else is astounding?
That’s the same percentage Canada had viewing the WJC Gold medal game. Crazy.
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If they don’t go to Sochi, they’re the dumbest people on earth.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
What’s the time zone difference there? That could have bearing on viewership. I’m not going to watch a lot of games if its in the middle of the night. I’ll only wake up for USA.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
ok
So prime time over there would be lunch-ish here. Lame for people working, but not bad. When the world cup was in Korea, I got like no sleep.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Was that the year we beat Portugal? I was up at like 5 am to watch that game.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
I think so
I woke up at 2 twice to watch Brazil (Dad’s home country)
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think at least in the preliminary round, they can schedule USA and Canada games to air in North American at lunchtime (8 pm local time?). Not prime time, but people will break to watch. Do we know how the 3pm games on cable were? Probably wouldn’t work if they meet in the final again, but then again, maybe Russia would want it scheduled in the evening, thinking they’d be in it.
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Isn’t the deal with Sochi marketing the NHL in Russia? I’ve got to believe that there are Ovie fans in Russia lacking familiarity with his nonRussian teammates. Viewership will nosedive but promoting the stars could be positive. That’s why so much of this dependson TV muscle and IOC flexibility. If it’s the Olympics in partnership with the NHL, then they’re interested. If not, there will be a real lack of viewership in North America due to the time difference and the lack of an Olympics in the USA for so long will hurt tremendously in efforts to get the NHL on board.
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How has this gone un-rec’d? This is unprecedented and totally awesome.
Now: time for an epic post-season run from the most exciting team in the league.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Meaning 1 in every 3 Americans with a TV watched.
That is incorrect. It means 1 on 3 Americans with their TV turned on watched the game. That is not a minor distinction.
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Interesting, not a minor distinction at all.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
And consider those numbers in the context of cable/satellite TV, with eleventy billion channels available to viewers – in contrast to the 1980 game, which may have had similar numbers but there were only a handful of viewing options.
These ratings numbers are insane, and a major coup for hockey. Very impressive.
I wasn’t saying it wasn’t impressive. It was extremely so. Like I’m sure everyone else witnessed this past week everyone who I know who aren’t hockey fans are all of a sudden talking hockey. All I was saying is that he was incorrect in how share is calculated and its a huge distinction.
The real issue is going to be whether those numbers can be quickly translated into getting folks to watch the NHL.
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Oh, I know – sorry, I was more just jumping on the “holy CRAP” train and replying wherever I saw the ratings being discussed. It’s insane to me how many people in my office are talking about the game, seeing the numbers in black and white has been nothing short of stunning.
But also, remember that while it only takes into account 1 of every 3 Americans with a TV em>, it also doesn’t count those gathering at sports bars around the country. Corey said Union Jack’s here in Arlington was insane.
It will be interesting to see the reverberations, if any, in the NHL. The fact that the numbers pummeled the 2002 gold medal game – also between the US and Canada – is really interesting. Maybe people saw something more interesting in this year’s US team, maybe it was the (ugh) Crosby effect, maybe it was all the talk about Miller and how amazing he’s been…who knows?
Thanks for posting that, that’s what I thought as well but I was like “well, what do I really know?” :)
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The lightning hate us
http://www.rawcharge.com/2010/2/27/1329214/lightning-unplugged-features#storyjump
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I like how Downie says that he hates everyone. That made a lot of sense to me.
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I wonder why Foster hates the Caps. He’s spent pretty much his entire career in Minnesota. And Torrey Mitchell plays for the Sharks.
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I cannot wait to get back to the Phone Booth Thursday and rock the red cowbell, unleash some fury, show my war face, and let everyone know that the inches we need are everywhere around us.
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My next game isn’t until the 24th. I need my fix!
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Oh no, I have no more tix for the rest of the season. Better check the ticket exchange…
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Yea, If I wasn’t planning on going up to Toronto on the 20th I’d go to more, but right now I have to think about my Leafs v Habs tickets.
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That’s gonna be awesome.
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
you can leave the cow bell at home.. and i have two tickets for sell… ( sorry for plugging..) 45 a piece in 404…
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I have tickets :-) but I’m sure some other Rat or Rabbit will be grateful for your generosity!
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just do me a favor and leave the cowbell’s to the Cow’s..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
awwww, but now I have one for each hand! A red caps bell and a chocolate hershey bell. Mr. Bird insisted they go to work with me and stay at work.
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i like the way he thinks….
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
BTW, the Hershey experience was outstanding, but for one small detail.
The dam horns. By the end of the game we had a whole herd of dying moose in there, and it was very distracting.
I appreciate The Horn Guy and the VC’s low horn tolerance policy much more now.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Oh believe me, the dying moose jokes flew thick and fast in the Calder Cup final last season.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
we called them dying giraffes, in honor of one of our favorite parts of South Park movie. we were, strangely, appalled and fascinated at the same time.
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And people wondered why I looked at the horns in the bucket in the Hershey shops and said “oh god, those things are the bane of my existence”
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
I considered buying one, but then I realized that I’m not that much of a stupid jerk.
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Hahahahaha. One day I came across a parent who had sent her 6-9 year old sons – three of them – to the store so they could get whatever they wanted. They all got horns.
I had fond dreams of stuffing those horns into every available orifice she owned.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
Oh, I had fond dreams of them “WAAAAGUHS” with them in the car. All… The way… HOME!
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You poor thing. I feel bad for the parent, she has to listen to it until they get sick of them.
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I don’t. She let kids of that age go unsupervised into a shop and get what they wanted, she gets what she deserves.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
The worst offender was a 10 year old kid that happened to be wearing a Richards jersey
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
We have to plan a Rink meet up while you’re in town! I remember we talked about it before.
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I would definitely be ok with that. March 5 – 18 are my dates….let the planning begin.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Well you’re going to Baltimore on March 14 for sure.
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For real though I’d prefer something in the DC/Arlington area, only because I will be carless unless I can steal one from my parents.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
For the caps/Blackhawks viewing party at ESPNZone, of course. We’ll figger out how to get you there.
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I was unaware that such a thing was going down. Brilliant!
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by SeattleCapsFan on Mar 1, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
DGB’s tweets are frequently amazing:
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
so, any legs to Poni to NSH? Would make sense (depends on return)
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Hamhuis :P
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
That deal was done last year, missed the deadline by minutes.
Could happen again, considering Burke and Poile in Vancouver.
2nd rounder + Ryan Jones is what I offer.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
FLA trades D Jordan Leopold to the Pens for a 2nd rounder. Sorry if this is already in the thread. Didn’t see it.
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I’ve heard some rumours about that deal…
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Are the going rumors for the Caps still Sutton from NYI, Kaberle from Toronto, and Vokoun from FLA?
Also, was talking to Laughlin at the last home game down in the Coaches Club, and he seemed convinced that Modano would be in a caps uniform before the deadline as a second line center.
Can’t find any new info on what’s going on…damn GMGM and his excellence at secrecy!
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Modano, huh? I loved him growing up, but isn’t he kinda Feds #2 without the added Russian flair?
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
If this were 1992, i’d be jumping through the roof.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
The rational side of me says “ehhhhhhhh, he’s lost a step or 3.” the pure fan in me says “Mike Modano?! In A Caps sweater?! SWEET!”
Feds#2 without the Russian Flair. Nice!
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Wasn’t Modano moved to W earlier this year?
The team could use a better option at 2C, no doubt, but I’m not sure Mike M is the answer here.
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I’m sure that Modano is not the answer at 2C.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah. Love Locher and all, but Modano is done.
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Funny, I thought about this. Modano was the American version of Fedorov during the mid 90s. Would be cool to bring him in. But then, I often think about these things from a sentimentality point of view rather than a hockey one. Probably why I’m not a GM. That, and the fact that I have no other skills related to the job.
C’mon, I don’t represent 3% of the Rink population.
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by Rob Parker on Mar 1, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is why percenatge is weighted.
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or percentage. Yeesh. Nice edit fail.
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Percentage is overrated anyways. Percenatge is the future.
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along with half wins.
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by Carl Putnam on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a man crush on Modano. I’d strip naked and run around NVCC if that happened.
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will there be photo evidence of this?
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Loudoun.
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bye bye bykov?
MOSCOW — Russia president Dmitry Medvedev demanded Monday that sports officials step down over the country’s dismal performance at the Winter Olympics in Vancouver.
Hockey wasn’t their only problem, not by a longshot. What else went wrong over there?
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by CapitalCentre on Mar 1, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Medvedev should start by encouraging Russian hockey players to stay in the NHL if he wants Russia to ever sniff a Gold medal again. As has been noted here and elsewhere many times over, these Olympics proved beyond any reasonable doubt that NHL>KHL.
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“I heard another question — maybe it was too little KHL players…”
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If you've read this far...seek help.
Wow. They won’t be getting over themselves any time soon.
by Battenburg Baron on Mar 1, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Here’s a little vintage Bykov from Russia’s Olympic Camp.
Possibly worth your time to look at some of the other stories too.
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From that Hockey’s Future list:
When the season started, Capitals goaltender Jose Theodore was named the official starter by coach Bruce Boudreau.
Stuff like this makes me question the validity of the rest.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:37 AM EST reply actions
HF can be pretty spotty.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Mar 1, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
No, he wasn’t. BB took great care to say that there was no “official starter”. I mean, sure, Theo got game 1, but that’s not what HF is saying.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
If he did, he certainly didn’t do it in any forceful way. I mean, it’s possible that a quote like “Theo was the starter last year so until I say otherwise he’s the starter” may have been uttered, but certainly nothing like “Theo is our guy, Varly is our backup”.
Seriously, every time anyone asked BB the answer was “I’m not saying anything until 50 games in”.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Mar 1, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah? Did Mick just mention it? Think it’ll be tomorrow…
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by Ovechwin on Mar 1, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Back on topic, I have a feeling this is the calm before the storm.
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Better freaking be. This team has a shot, cap room, and obvious areas of weakness. Even if you can’t fix ‘em all, fix some of of them, dammit. I’m tired of being patient.
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Every team looking to trade might want to rip us off, in which case GMGM won’t make a move.
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Doubt Poile wants to rip anyone off. Strikes me as a straight shooter, looking for fair value according to what the market indicates. Maybe I’m hoping rather than thinking.
I’ll be bloody well annoyed if they stand pat.
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Every GM wants to rip the other guy, most are just smart enough to prevent it. If a GM can make a move that he thinks helps his team, he’ll pull the trigger. Rip off or not.
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They gotta make it look like they’re doing something. :)
Seriously, I bet the thing GMGM comes up with is the thing nobody expected. And I don’t fault him for hiding his hand – remember that if his interest in a player becomes public, the price immediately goes up.
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I’ve not had any problem with how GMGM has maneuvered during the TD and in the off-season. I trust that him and his crack staff of professional talent evaluators are doing their best to bring on Vokoun, Hamhuis and a 2nd line center as we speak.
Of those, I’d say the center is the lowest on the list, honestly. I have to go defense, goal, then forwards in that order.
That said, it really looks to me like a deal for Hamhuis is very, very doable for the Caps. The Caps certainly have more to offer Nashville than any other team who might seriously be in the market for him, and can do with without hurting themselves. Nashville is going to be looking for low-cost guys, which points me at Sloan over ShaMo or Erskine, but one of Fehr or Flash and Sloan for Hamhuis won’t kill the Caps and will help both teams.
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Sloan doesn’t unseat any of the guys they have currently on the roster, or do anything significantly better than they could bring up from their AHL squad, in my opinion. I don’t see where he has value as a trade chip for NSH.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Money, very simply. NSH operates in the bargain basement and will very likely be looking for the cheapest thing available. I doubt they can afford ShaMo and will be hesitant about Erskine, since they operate on an owner dictated budget that is closer to the salary floor than the ceiling.
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I understand that money is a concern, I just don’t see why NSH wants to add Sloan. His contract is a lot to pay a guy who doesn’t bring anything beyond an AHL skill set, especially on a team that has such budget concerns.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think there’s more hate for Sloan than he truly deserves, but they’ve stated they want a throwaway defenseman. Of them, Sloan’s the only one they’re likely to be able to afford. I think this blog hates him so much that they’re blind to the things he does well, too.
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I think there’s a distinction to be drawn between “hate” and “doesn’t bring anything beyond an AHL skill set,” as well.
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I just don’t ffeel and haven’t for a while that he gets a fair shake. He’s the jeff Schultz on Japers’ Rink. Hey, every blog’s got one.
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What makes you think that the assessment of ‘AHL-player’ is unfair?
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
He was the best defenseman in training camp!! Boudreau said so!
OK, end CLED.
Back to NSH – is the idea that they want a warm body to help flesh out their roster, so they don’t have to call up a prospect? If so, then Sloan could be an option, as he doesn’t make a lot.
But if they’re serious about making the playoffs and want a player to help them in that regard, then Sloan is not a good fit. He ought to be a healthy scratch whenever possible.
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Let it be known that this years Predators are dead set on winning a playoff series, for whatever thats worth, which is why I don’t want Sloan. We need more than a road cone if we’re replacing Hamhuis.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Then why the hell are you talking about getting rid of hamhuis at all?
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Because he’s going to be a UFA, and likely a UFA with a pay raise. I almost guarantee that Poile and most Preds fans would love to keep him around – but not at the expense of potentially losing him for nothing. And if he has to move, might as well talk about what you’d get back!
Because we need power play and scoring worse than we need to keep Hamhuis. Cody Franson can play in DH’s spot, easy, and its not optimum to let DH walk next year when we can trade him and not get anything back.
Basically, the choice of getting scoring and keeping the defense relatively status quo with an outside addition like Erskine outweight the choice of keeping Hamhuis, getting no scoring, and losing a series in five games because we go 1/12 on the PP.
And what Becca says.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
If that’s what you need, about the only Dman that’s going to do you any good is Pothier, bluntly, and can you afford his contract?
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probably
Because we’d have no issue with just letting Pothier leave with no compensation after the season, whereas Hammer is far more valuable.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, then in that case I can see taking Pothier. ShaMo would be a similar situation, but he’s entirely shutdown and doesn’t play the PP at all. Of the two, for your purposes you’re better off with Pothier.
See, he gives me a better reason than SLOAN SUX!!!!!! and I’m listening.
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They aren’t looking for a PP D. They are looking for PP F and a D to fill some minutes. That’s why Flash and Erskine make sense.
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Hmmm. Nice point. Pothier and Hamhuis are a wash, financially. Adding a prorated portion of Fleischmann’s salary is probably something NSH can swing?
So they get a scoring forward with some cost certainty to him, a useful player on the defense for a playoff push, and lose Hamhuis…
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If somehow Flash/Pothier for Hamhuis were to go down, Poile won that deal, in my mind.
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If it were to go down like that, then I’m with you.
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He does actually break out successfully more often than not, and I look for him when he’s on the ice trying to see why you guys are after him all the time for everything. He skates well, he covers for a pinching D, and he’s got the foot speed that Erskine lacks in his own zone. I’m not saying he’s top 2, I’m just saying I don’t get the Alzner love when I see Alzner make mistakes at least as often as he does and never, EVER gets called on it.
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Yeah. We really should stop blowing so much smoke up Alzner’s ass.
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You’re about the only one willing to admit he isn’t a god around here, JP.
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Who’s saying he’s a god? Really. Alzner is making rookie mistakes, but he’s still a rookie. He’ll get better and has a lot more upside. Sloan is in his late 20s and likely at or near the peak of his career productivity, which is AHL 3D or NHL 7D who I’m not real comfortable on the ice for.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
First, as J.P. pointed out, he does get called on it. Second, he’s a 21 year old that’s expected to make mistakes to grow. He wasn’t picked up off a golf course at 25. A huge part of the reason people wanted Alzner up was so that he could make his mistakes and get them out of the way. Finally, if you are seeing so many Alzner mistakes that aren’t being called out, why aren’t you calling them out?
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Disagree. Jeff Schultz was the “Jeff Schultz” because he actually was a very productive NHLer and that ran contrary to the general public opinion/conventional wisdom.
Tyler Sloan is what he is and I think we’re more than fair in our evaluations of him. And I also don’t think “every blog’s got one” of anything but a URL.
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Let’s agree to disagree on this one. I see him break out successfully just fine more often than not (and I do watch specifically for him); he actually makes fewer mistakes than Alzner does at the NHL level this season. I don’t think you guys are being fair, but I also know better than to argue with this crowd when they have their mind set on something, which is why I seldom bring this up.
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The numbers seem to see he’s not all that valuable.
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by J.P. on Mar 1, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sloan is what he is. Alzner does get a break because he’s a baby and has significant upside. To me, and I imagine many others here, the growing pains of having Alzner make mistakes are worth it to get him to his potential quickly.
If I have to have a Sloan or Alzner make a mistake on the ice I want it to be Alzner because he’s still learning, and Sloan is much further down his development path.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
by Sct112 on Mar 1, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I really wish you’d point it out when you see it. Now saying “he makes more mistakes at the NHL level” doesn’t really do much. You’ll stand by your position and there’s no way to refute it. If you had called it out at the time then we’d at least have points of reference. I see Sloan lost in no-man’s land much more than I see Alzner lost in no-man’s land, that’s for sure. I also see Sloan making terrible puck decisions more than I see Alzner doing that.
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The problem I see with Sloan is that when he does something wrong, people are very quick to jump on him, say he’s not an NHL caliber player, etc., etc., etc., but when he does something right, the praise is grudging at best.
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I expect NHL players to do things right most of the time and I’m pretty sure their coaches do, too.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t hate Tyler Sloan, if that’s what you’re implying. He skates well, but that’s really about it.
Does he pass well? Break out of his own zone?
How about shoot well?
Positionally sound at the NHL level?
Join the rush? Pinch at opportune times and not at the wrong ones?
I just don’t see what the guy does at the NHL level that makes him an attractive trade chip for NSH. He’s the quintessential replacement player, or maybe even slightly below that. He has no value to NSH because he doesn’t give them anything they don’t already have and won’t have to give up assets for. Their blueline farm is stacked.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the entire defense in Milwaukee is better than Sloan, and thats no lie. Yonkman, Laakso, Dietrich, Ford, Blum….yeah, I don’t see Sloan being better than any of those guys.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Is that Nolan Yonkman?….There’s a name I haven’t heard of in a good while
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
If Blum is in Milwaukee instead of juniors, I would wholeheartedly endorse bringing him up instead of trading for Sloan.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, he’s in MIL, and damn, has he got potential.
Yep, Nolan Yonkman, captain of the Admirals. Was called up recently, too.
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Are you telling me Sloan isn’t a winger? ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
The trick is to only play Sloan when the opposing goalies name is “Marty.”
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Yeah, let’s no play Sloan.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think Washington really has a shot at seeing Dallas in the playoffs.
Unless you meant he gets traded for Dan Hamhuis.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Marty Biron
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Yeah, let’s no play Sloan in the playoffs.
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by red army line on Mar 1, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
But by moving Hamhuis they can afford Shamo or Erskine. If they want to pay Sloan level salary they can bring up one of their studs-to-be and give him NHL ice time and manage him.
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yeah
Sloan would be a no go from my perspective. Morrissonn, I’d like.
Flash/Morrissonn for Hamhuis! GET IT DONE!
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
Not gonna happen, guys. Sorry. ShaMo makes close to $2M. They can’t swing that.
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how much does he make?
Is he better or worse than SM?
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
ow
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by Chris Burton on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
More money, a better overall player, but an Off. D compared to SM’s Def. D.
by DrinkingPartner on Mar 1, 2010 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I think Potsy makes $2.5. He’s better than ShaMo. but………………he has to be benched every 15th game or so. Otherwise, his game goes right down the crapper.
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Makes even more. Guy skates decently and makes good passes. He’s not the best defensive guy on the team, but he’s not the worst, either. Good guy to have on the bottom pair, but I’m not sure I want him playing top-4 minutes.
The real issue is that he’s recently come off a yearlong absence due to a concussion. Real scary injury risk there, which is why there’s not going to be much of a market for him.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know about that…
The problem with the concussion wasn’t the concussion; it was a misdiagnosis of the problem. Once they figured out he’d developed an astigmatism, he was back on the ice in under a month’s time, and playing two months later…
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Right, but the astigmatism only appeared after the concussion and it kept him out for 14 months. Teams aren’t going to overlook that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
No, but what I’m saying is that it would not have kept him out for 14 months if it had been diagnosed sooner. Most of that 14 months (after the concussion recovery) was trying to figure out what was wrong, and once they figured it out, it was a very quick fix.
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Sure, but concussions are cumulative. It’s not like breaking a rib where once it’s healed, he’s good to go. The next one could end his career.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you mean, but your first concussion can end your career too :) He’s far from alone in that.
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I know what you mean, but your first concussion can end your career too :) He’s far from alone in that.
While this is true, it’s unrelated to the point that concussion risk and severity rises with each injury. They don’t completely heal, which makes them different from a lot of musculo-skeletal injuries that occur. Pothier’s concussion history is more likely to see his career ended early and suddenly, with the team holding him getting no return after that.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
But he also had a much longer rest after his concussion than most guys get. Sure, it’s a red flag, but I’d be willing to bet over 65% of NHL players have had concussions. If they had noticed the eye thing right away we wouldn’t be talking about a 14 month lay off.
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I think you take a risk on any player that he’ll suffer a career ending injury without warning. Just like every time you re-sign Semin you’re taking a risk that his wrist is going to simply stop functioning at some point. But the reward outweighs the risk, so you go with it.
My bigger concern, if I’m a GM, when it comes to Potsy is that maddening need to get benched in order to get him to play well.
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Agreed. I don’t get too concerned with concussions until a guy starts getting them on top of each other like Lindros or Primeau.
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Oh, agreed, but he’s by no means the only NHL player to ever suffer a concussion… and, in fact, I would be surprised if Matt Bradley (for example) hasn’t had more than one this year… the recent hit comes to mind. But I don’t think this concussion was as bad as the 14 month layoff seems to make it sound.
I am not saying by any stretch than a concussion should be taken lightly, EVER. But I’m saying this particular one may not be as much of a factor as it might otherwise have been, if the problem hadn’t gone away quickly once it was properly diagnosed.
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That’s fair, but it was still going to be a while until he recovered from that. Not 14 months, but it was a pretty severe concussion if I recall the news reports correctly.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
You do recall correctly, but part of the problem is that what people were claiming as post-concussion syndrome actually wasn’t. It was the eye problem that was messing everything up. That said, a hit that is bad enough to re-shape your eye has to be pretty bad.
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by Knee high to a duck on Mar 1, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Mar 1, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
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