Friday Caps Clips: A Somewhat Dirty Dozen; Thrashers @ Caps Game Day
by J.P. on Feb 5, 2010 6:22 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- Recaps and other assorted musings on last night's win from the us, WaPo (blog, gamer), Vogs, DCEx, Joe B., Ed Frankovic, Peerless, Puck Daddy, RMNB, and FFODC from the winning side, and the NYT, NY Daily News, Scotty Hockey and Blueshirt Banter from the other side.
- A look at the gorgeous goal that was Alex Ovechkin's 500th career point. [D.C. Sports Bog, Puck Daddy]
- This is no joke (and not original, either): a laser pointer aimed at Jose Theodore's eyes before a late faceoff. Had Bruce Boudreau known about it, he'd have been right to pull his team off the ice. [The Hockey Chronicles]
- Previews of tonight's game against the Kovalchuk-less Thrash from Vogs, Peerless and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Bird Watchers Anonymous for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
- To refresh your memory, this is the fourth meeting of the season between the two Southeast Division "rivals," with the Caps taking the first three by scores of 5-4, 4-3 and 8-1.
- #Snovechkin updates. [CI]
- What might the Caps be looking for at the deadline? [ESPN, USA Today]
- The Caps are on Sheldon Souray's "Yeah, I'll go there" list. Hopefully the interest isn't mutual. [TSN]
- The Great One on the Caps. [ESPN]
- Nicklas Backstrom has become quite the scorer, and the rest of the hockey world is starting to notice. [The Hockey News]
- On Eric Fehr's radio show. [Homer McFanboy, D.C. Sports Bog]
- Shaone Morrisonn is quite the entrepreneur (I guess $1.975 million per year doesn't go as far as it used to). [DCEx]
- Wilbon and Kornheiser on the Caps' post season chances. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- David Steckel has been a part of three professional double-digit win streaks. "Coincidentally, Bruce Boudreau has been Steckel's head coach for all three streaks." Coincidentally? [National Post]
- Speaking of Stecks, thanks to Aaron Leistner, produced for "Overtime w/ Holden Kushner" on 1067 The Fan (which gets deservedly slurped over at OFB this morning) for passing along the audio of the spot Stecks did on the show the other night. [.mp3 (audio)]
- Another take on AO's chances of breaking the all-time goal mark. [BtN]
- A look (literally) at the 1984 Caps. What a good lookin' bunch. [D.C. Sports Bog]
- Help the Caps help Haiti. [Hockey Mom]
- Dreaming about an organizational double-play come June. [RtR]
- Behind NHL benches stand plenty of Caps connections. [FanPost]
- Per the HHoF, on this date back in 1994, "Peter Bondra scored 4 goals on 4 straight shots within a span of 4:12 in the first period, setting an NHL record for fastest four goals by one player. Bondra added another goal in the second period as the Capitals won 6-3 over visiting Tampa Bay."
- Finally, happy 29th birthday to Kris Beech. Uh, yeah.
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Those Rangers blogs make my eyes bleed. At least they make me appreciate this place even more…
by Ginga on Feb 5, 2010 7:09 AM EST via mobile reply actions
OV 500
did anyone think OV’s 500th point would be on some run of the mill secondary (i.e. crosby) assist? yeah, neither did i.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
A far larger percentage of Nick Backstrom’s 5-on-5 assists are secondary than Sid’s are. Can we stop with the “Secondary Sid” stuff?
That said, of course Ovi’s 500th point was spectacular.
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by J.P. on Feb 5, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I’m not a real hater of the secondary assist but I don’t think that the Caps, especially Ovi, Backis, high skill guys. get a lot of “cheap” assists that way. So many of their goals are like Knubles from last night where the secondary assist is as pretty as the primary, and both are prettier than the goal.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
Paging Mr. Coffey… Mr. Paul Coffey… Please come to the white courtesy phone…
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I don’t have a problem with many 2nd assists. OV’s 2nd assist on the pass to Backstrom who slipped it to Knuble was a deserved assist.
I do have a problem when a guy gets a second assist for what often seems like just being the guy in a red shirt who touched the puck before the guy who passed it to the guy who scored. I think Fleishman had one earlier in the season where he barely touched the puck in his defensive end, glanced a pass off an opposing player’s skate, and his two linemates gained the neutral and offensive zone, and made some great passes between the two of them resulting in a goal. To me, that’s 1 assist, not 2.
The NHL has been rather charitable in their distribution of assists these last few seasons…
If you make it subjective, then you’re going to get instances where the refs absolutely get it wrong and a guy that deserves a point doesn’t get one. I think it’s fine how it is, but I can understand if it frustrates you.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
agreed 100%. keep it as objective as possible, then the larger the sample size, the more relevant the stat.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Regarding assists...
There are assists, and then there are assists.
The salient question is, rather than who touched the puck last and who touched it before that, how much did the game state change on account of the play?
Consider AO’s 500th last night. Backstrom gets a primary, but he did not really do a huge amount to change the game state with his pass to AO. He got the pass to AO in stride and on his tape, which is nice. But the end result is that you have a winger in stride, with the puck, going 1-on-2 (or 3) all alone into the zone. Most times, that play does not result in a goal. Of course, if the pass is not accurate, it never results in a goal; and having the puck with a charging winger in the neutral zone is a lot more valuable game state than having the puck on your own half wall. So Nick deserves some credit there, but really the vast bulk of the credit on that play goes to AO (and Lundy, who was also quite helpful).
Then think about Knuble’s goal. Backstrom gets the puck from the left side of the slot, with a G in front of him and a D checking him, to a wide open Knuble with nothing in front of him for a pretty much sure goal. If you figure Backstrom scores 20% of the time if he shoots in that situation, and Knuble scores 97 (or whatever) percent of the time he shoots when he did, Nick’s pass produced a very high advance in the game state.
Two goals, two primaries, but very different amounts of value added by the pass immediately prior to the goal.
You can recite essentially identical scenarios for secondary assists, too. Some secondary assists are the ones that change the game state from neutral to severe advantage; some are plays that add almost no value.
Assists are a rough metric to calculate offensive value added, but I’m not in favor of having a review process similar to Errors in baseball. On balance, I think it’s more helpful to have the system we now have.
Of course, what I’d really like to see is an algorithm that quantifies value added, similar to Win Probability Added in baseball. I won’t hold my breath.
Sorry for the long post, which might be more appropriate as a fanshot, but while we were on the subject…
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
by fat_daddyo on Feb 5, 2010 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
pure awesome.
The fact that a primary assist can be simply passing the puck to a phenom like Ovie, Semin, Malkin, or Crosby from your own blueline, and letting them carry the puck, undress a defender and goalie.
And that a seconday assist can be an amazing saucer pass from one blue line to the opposite corner, which is then doled out to a surging winger in the high slot, makes the argument somewhat frivolous. It works the way it is.
If most of Crosby’s assists are of the 2ndary nature, it only shows that he is one of the prime vehicles through which the Penguins run their offense. AND that he has the capacity to execute this role.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
Great points. And Ovi’s play on the Knuble goal (driving behind the net, drawing defenders, pulling goalie out of position, and then passing to Backstrom) which got Ovi a secondary assist, was much more significant than Backstrom’s pass on Ovi’s 500th point.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you 100% on this. I considered adding something about AO (how his drive from the half wall to Gretzky’s Office was part of adding value to the game state) but did not consider it relative to Backstrom’s pass.
In the end, I ditched it for reasons of space.
But that’s a very good point.
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
In the end, I ditched it for reasons of space.
Something I have never done…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 6, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
true, but Backstrom is on the Caps!!
Just a little Sid love before the game on Sunday.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
I always stood up for the secondary assist. Although some can be cheap, it can also reward a d-man for making an excellent breakout pass, or award a player who sets a play in motion.
Are secondary assists any cheaper than empty netters or banging a rebound into an empty net?
Wait….Crosby gets all his goals off rebounds? Uh-oh.
I agree, especially considering a lot of the time the play that’s made to set up the goal is the same. For example: Backstrom places a pass in Ovechkin’s sweet spot, one timer, goal – primary assist. Backstrom places a pass in Ovechkin’s sweet spot, one timer, puck bounces in off Knuble’s butt – secondary assist.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions
keep it clean pleasee….
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Yes, many secondary assists are well deserved. It’s the overly generous awarding of assists that is annoying. I know I’ve seen Pens awarded assists on goals that should have been unassisted or only one assist. I’ve seen plays where possession changes briefly and they award the assists to players who touched the puck prior to the defense. Malkin got an assist for his nearly rink-long dump in on that fluky, misplayed goal in the last game. Should that really be an assist?
by darwintheboxer on Feb 5, 2010 9:12 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can we stop with the "Secondary Sid" stuff?
You don’t really have to defend Crosby. That’s why God created Pierre Maguire.
Does this mean we don’t have to defend Schultz any more?
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Did anyone else have the reaction to OV 500 that you did to a basketball “And-One” situation where you go “Ok, there is the foul (penalty),” then you get excited for the free throws (power play), then an absurd shot is thrown up just because, and then it lingers on the rim (in the air), you yell at the TV “get in” and it does, and you celebrate"
"Have you ever played?" "Yes, I was a goalie"
And has it been determined how his jersey got ripped on that play? He was definitely grabbed at, but I don’t see how those gloves can rip fabric.
A 250 pound man skating hard, and pads with edges that stick out — yeah I can see how a jersey can tear when it’s being grabbed.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions
my reaction was more of an “Oh. My. God” reaction.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
In the recap thread, there was a link to page A1 of the post, and I got all excited to bring in my morning paper.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/print/asectionfrontimage.html
My edition of the paper isn’t the same, although it does have a Caps photo above the fold. Way cool.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
the “artistic” edition is awesome.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
by RedBirdie on Feb 5, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Microsoft Paint Master gets a rec
I like the V you made with the arrows
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
Damn, Bondra had monster Februaries. Wasn’t yesterday’s “Back in [date]” another Bondra 4-goal game?
Man, he was my FAVORITE player as a kid.
Indeed – Bonzai was a monster February performer.
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Nicest guy you could ever meet, too.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
he apparently skates w/ his kids down at the navy rink around holidays… wouldn’t it be awesome if JP or someone could use their powers to pull a alumni/cap celeb appearance at our pickups? .. just saying.. it’d be f-ing sweet.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
i’d feel bad for any of them but still.. just skating w/ ANY NHL player… current or former… would be enough..
I’d be juice boy for a decade to get to skate w/ the team at practice for a week.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Years ago I had the opportunity to skate with Hunter and Cicarelli….one of the highlights of my early years.
My dad used to work at Piney Orchard part time, so we got to skate with Caps a lot. On days when the rink was officially closed (easter, new year’s), the folks that worked there would bring their families out for a skating party. Local Caps like Jim Carey, Bondra, and Mike Eagles would regularly be there.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Scotty Hockey Blah Blah Blah
After a really nice recap of the game he adds this:
*There was a good number of Caps fans in the building, and the vast majority was clearly bandwagoners wearing jerseys and t-shirts that still likely had the tags on them. Two particular clowns in my section had brand new, red Mike Green and Semyon Varlamov sweaters over their monogrammed dress shirts.
The tags on the shirt thing is old, tired and unoriginal. So any Rags fan with a Drury jersey on is a bandwagon fan too? I guess since they didnt have laserpointers they aren’t “true fans”.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
I hate how people act like we didn’t just get new uniforms in 2007-2008. Of course most of the apparel is going to be new. Forgive us if we haven’t had the same uni’s since, like, prohibition. I, for one, am not going to be sporting the bronze and black anymore, and I’m too young to rock the old red. Plus, I have a personal rule that I DO NOT wear hockey jerseys if I’m not on the ice.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
to me its just the lack of creativity with the “tags on the shirt” line. like i said, his writeup was excellent. hard on the rags as he should be, praise for prospal and even poti, as much as that hurt. then to throw in that line just brings him down to pensblog territory.
if they were indeed wearing monogrammed shirts, how could you tell under their caps jerseys. did he ask those guys how long they had been fans. something tells me that just casual fans dont show up at MSG (or philly) wearing caps jerseys.
i dont see OFB or JP/Becca adding comments like:
“There were a few Rangers fans at Verizon Center last night. Couple guys in my section must have been mobbed up cause they had gold chains and pinkie rings. "
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
And now everyone is starting to be accused of being a bandwagoner. I can tell one when i see one, but i’m not gonna call them out. They may be annoying, but at least they are fans. Its not like they are doing something wrong by becoming a fan of a popular team, just when they act like they have been a fan forever.
why are they annoying? new fans should be embraced. i sit amongst many long term fans and i can tell you some of them are annoying too. i’m talking to you lady who sits behind me and does play by play in your annoying high pitched voice.
i’ll take a new fan trying to learn the game over a seasoned fan who thinks he knows everything about the game.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
i agree to this statement.. i’ve been sitting around the same group in 404 since i bought my tickets. unreal. words cant describe how much i want to stab myself at some of their comments..
yet when people show up in the seats next to me that are sold online 99% of games… and they dont really know the game…. quite enjoyable… they keep their mouth shut and actually just ENJOY whats going on.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I’m up high in 404 and I have to think I know exactly who your talking about but we won’t dive into that here. But we’ve got the same situation, 4 seats next to us are randoms but you meet some good people that way…
we’ll have to meet up and get a beer/soda/water… whatever suits you during an intermission.. coming tonight?
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Not sure with the impending weather… I know I know… Just dont want to be stuck when the metro closes early
no worries.. got quite a few more games coming up!
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I was in 404 in 08-09. i know your pain.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
There is a definite difference between new fans and bandwagon fans. (For one thing, some bandwagon fans have been bandwagon fans intermittently for a long time). New fans should be embraced, because who knows what kind of fan they’ll turn into? Bandwagon fans are annoying.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
i’m talking to you lady who sits behind me and does play by play in your annoying high pitched voice.
hilarious and oh-so-true. one of these days, we’re going to call out someone that actually reads/comments at the Rink and the fallout will be awesome to watch.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Ha, it’s probably me. I say stupid things all the time.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
No. I’m pretty sure I know who he’s talking about. I’ve actually had people that I gave my tickets to complain to me about her. They asked me if I ever thought about wearing earplugs or headphones. The worst thing is that she bought season tix the year after me. She’s a good person when she’s not screeching she just needs to pipe down. She also hasn’t learned much about hockey in a year, which is frustrating. I can tolerate loud; loud & ignorant is tough to swallow.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’m with you. I am glad we have new fans. that being said, I wish certain bandwagon fans in section 407 wouldn’t talk loudly enough for the entire section to hear their brilliant commentary all game long, while saying idiotic things like “+/- isn’t a good stat if Jeff Schultz can lead the league in it” and “Ovi is passing to Semin because Semin isn’t on the Russian Olympic team right now and he wants to help pad his stats” among other face palm causing comments.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Didn’t know you were in 407… There are bad comments everywhere. My personal faves are the people who think every penalty against the Caps is BS.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Row J. Although I haven’t worn the sombrero since the caps lost the first two games in the playoffs to the Rangers.
The Caps won something ridiculous like 97% of the games I wore it to (only lost when I stayed home or left the Sombrero) between Oct 07 and April 09. They seem to be doing just fine without it now haha
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
It’s ridiculous to get bent out of shape at bandwagon fans IMO. The NHL needs all the fan support it can get, to deem other people “less worthy” of being fans is stupid and is a great way of ostracizing future generations from the game. Sure some of those bandwagoners may stop following if/when the Caps hit the skids again. But not all of them will, and the best way fandom is passed on is from parents to kids. So if we get a sustained run here we can be looking at a whole generation of new Caps/hockey fans. Great for the game, great for the Caps.
All hockey fans were new once. My parents were never hockey fans, I started watching around 1995ish and became hooked (in the offensive zone by Sasha) for good on the Stanley Cup finals run in 97-98. One could argue I was a bandwagon fan then, one could also note that I was 11 then, and prone to supporting a winner. Point is, I’ve been following the team closely since. These Caps are more fun to watch, and appear to have a better chance of staying elite for a long time. How many 12 year olds do you think are being turned into diehards right now? How many others? You gotta start somewhere.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 5, 2010 8:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All hockey fans were new once. My parents were never hockey fans, I started watching around 1995ish and became hooked (in the offensive zone by Sasha) for good on the Stanley Cup finals run in 97-98.
Dude, this is my story right here. Same years, same age. Everything. Weird.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
I totally agree with your points, but I’ll just add this: I can’t for the life of me understand why some of the bandwagon fans haven’t caught on to the basic points of hockey. There are some people in my section who still don’t get that the opposition is allowed to play defense and hit the Caps. It’s not a penalty every time. Some of them still don’t understand relatively simple rules and concepts. And some of them have had season tix for over a year. How can you watch that much hockey and not pick up even some rudimentary knowledge?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
dude in front of me calls interference EVERY time a cap gets checked in the Neutral zone.. lol.. cracks me up..
Guy : HEY! thats interference ref!
ME: heh no.. its not..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
You handle it a lot better than I’d be able to. It almost ruins the game for me when I get a stupid know-it-all near me broadcasting his opinions through the whole game. I have to drink a lot, and very quickly, when I sense that happening.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
One of the games i had to get hammered because a lady behind me.. whenever she shows up.. i know its hammer time..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
The guy who sits next to me must be her twin brother. Hammer time indeed. I’m hoping the weather tonight keeps him home.
It can’t be worse than having leaners who want to fight when you politely notify them that they’re taking up the lower quarter of the ice with their inconsiderateness. It’s happened twice now, where I’ve actually had to get an attendant to get them to back down, and it doesn’t stop the leaning either. Now I’m getting all worked up…
"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21
Leaners are the absolute worst. They need a hilarious anti-leaning video at VC so people will sit back.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I’ve often wondered why they don’t do more PSAs for this sort of thing. I’ve gotten to where I won’t get 400 level seats unless I’m on an end or front row.
"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21
You have to listen closely to hear it, but Wes does tell people to sit back in or around the NHL puck warning. Nobody’s listening at that point, though.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I think we should all get together and write a mass petition/letter to Ted. Tell him that they need to air it during one of the TV timeouts early in the game…
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I wrote a comment on one of his blog entries about it.. but I agree, somebody should start organizing that.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I’ll draft up a FanPost this weekend if nobody else wants to. . . Then we just figure out a way to make sure Ted gets it. Suggestions?
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Ask JP to have one of his connections pass it along?
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
We’d ask very nicely, of course.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I recommend someone make a fanpost, with a list of things we’d like to see on the pregame vid. I’d do it, but I have to get to work, and living in California, I don’t see any games at VC anyway.
The two obvious bullet points are no leaning and watch your language. If anyone has flown Virgin America lately, their preflight safety video is a pretty funny cartoon in a style I think would be effective here. (The subway in Prague likewise uses funny cartoons very effectively to encourage civil behavior)
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I’d do it, but…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
Example of a Prague subway video here. They’re cute.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
i’m loving this idea. no different than the “turn off your cell phone” PSAs before movies. sounds like a worthwhile suggestion and something ted might consider.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Watch your language is already done. There’s a video run before every game of the guys speaking. They cover:
- wait for a stop in play before moving
- puck might fly into the stands, if you get hit, see the usher
- dftggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
by gotsparkly on Feb 5, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The problem with doing it before the game and no other time is a lot of people miss puck drop…and I’d be willing to bet most of the people who miss puck drop are the ones you’re actually trying to target with that friendly advice
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 5, 2010 2:43 PM EST up reply actions
Stupid cat. The other two are
- avoiding drinking too much
- refrain from foul language
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
I’d pay good money to see a pregame video that covers “stupid cat.” Perhaps before a game against Florida?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
does anyone remember the pre-movie muppet song about not talking and what not? The only lines I remember is “don’t surf, because there isn’t any water” and “don’t eat the seat”, but that was AWESOME
we should hire the muppets for the VC PSA
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 5, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
I’m a fan of spring-loaded seats that would pitch them right over the edge
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Feb 5, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have had brilliant luck getting my seats switched when that kind of shit goes down. I’ve found it does little good to chirp.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Not so much when the irritant in question has season tickets near your season tickets, though. :(
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Question:
Can you get Season tickets in the lower bowl?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
You mean the 200 level, right? As I understand it, you can if you want an “all VC events” package. They might sell you a Caps only package if sales aren’t so good.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
All of the 100s are available as season tickets, but it’s probably tougher. I was a weekend plan guy for a couple of years and now a STH and I pretty much see the same people every game I go to.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
Not all of them, Caps hold back some for single game sales.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
Yeah, plus the ones held for sale to the visiting team/players/NHLPA. There’s a bunch of those types near me. I’ve sat behind Erskines, Clarks, near Steckel’s dad, possibly Papa Ovechkin and saw Flash in my row back when he was benched regularly.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
How do you get your seat switched?
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Alternatively, you could turn around and tell her to her face that you have a problem with her and what it is.
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Yeah, I’ve tried that to extremely limited success. It usually turns into “fuck you, no fuck you,” especially if it’s a guy that’s causing the problem.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
because you two are ACTUALLY scary! haha jk
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I usually don’t have a problem when I yell at people. But then again, I’m a girl.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
I want to start a We Want Wings chant at a game. I tried it a few weeks ago when i was back in DC and someone yelled at me. . .
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
Was it a tall girl up in 428?
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
Hm. Guess it depends on how you come across. Works for me every time. It even worked in the Igloo.
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You’re a lady, though. The kind of stupid men that sit there and know-it-all it up during the game are the type that are going to take me asking them to be quiet as an insult or a challenge. Has happened many times.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Ah. With the know-it-alls, try making them look stupid in front of the section instead and see how fast they shut up.
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Believe it or not, I try not to be confrontational.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I used to be that way, too, and sometimes I still am. But I’ve had words with a few people and got one guy thrown out last season. It’s one of those where I will if I have to, and if it goes over multiple games, that gets into “have to” territory.
To each his own I suppose.
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People turn into different people when they touch the ice.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
People turn into different people when they touch the ice.
haha, Growing up, my mom had a laugh with one of the other moms of a kid on my team because it took her a few weeks to realize the nice boy off the ice was the same open ice hitting jackass on the ice.
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
It’s amazing how some people turn into the most gigantic douche bags on the ice.
In goal I’m pretty much the same ultra competitive person I am in life. When I play player though I’m a lot more aggressive and willing to kill anyone that messes with me or my teammates. (Unless it’s beer league, then just don’t cheap shot me)
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I’ve toned it down a bit. More of a have fun kind of guy. But I would have hated me if I played against me in high school. I didn’t get too many penalties but I sure drew a lot. Very good at getting under someones skin.
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Seriously, alot of guys i played club with had completely different personalities on and off the ice.
When i get on the ice i am a pretty big talker, but only when i can back it up. Its only gotten me introuble a few times. i.e. thrown out of a game for talking to a ref and getting my ass beat by some 6’4" kid from NorCal
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
So boring. The drunken fool who must own a 20-pack next to me simply can’t watch a game without 25 hi-volume f-bombs and a handful of *c*s. (Actual quote: “F— you, ref, you f—-ing c—-!” ) So I reminded him, oh-so-carefully, that he and I were both at the game with Ladies.
This has not had the desired effect.
i have once and she pretty much shut her trap but next time she showed up.. same old same old.. so i just choose to drink and plus my stepdad doesnt enjoy when i get riled up.. haha ..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
my stepdad doesnt enjoy when i get riled up
This. Becky stops having fun when I get all pissy about these jerks.
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maybe we should put her w/ my stepdad and just start kicking ass and taking names.. we are best friends.. we can use our karate from the garage..
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I’ve done it twice successfully. The first time I didn’t have a good excuse, just irritated, so I told the nice lady at CS that someone next to me smelled like they had vomited into their shirt and jacket and she gave me a knowing look and moved me three sections down to a different (if slightly worse) seat. I was fortunate I guess that no one bothered to follow up on my claim
The second time I was sitting next to a hideously obese person who was literally spilling into my chair…pet peeve: keep your fat to yourself. The game was sold out so she (different woman) moved me and my buddy to those reserved folding chair seats that hardly ever seem to get used. Then we just got yelled at by the folks on the rail behind us every time we so much as flinched…
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
Or sometimes a group of yuppies will come in halfway through the second period for 15 minutes (no fan gear or anything) because they somehow got their tickets for free. Then they ask stupid questions like “Is number 8 the closer?” “What happens when a team gets a penalty?” “Does scoring points help you win the game?”
Well, the first two questions actually happened, but the third was just exaggeration. You get the point though.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
“Whoa, they’re getting on the bench in the middle of the game?!”
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Really?
When did not knowing become a crime here? Everyone starts somewhere – being a relatively new fan myself, I know this. I learned by getting on the boards, reading, asking occasionally dumb questions, and educating myself. Not everyone is net-savvy enough to know that such forums exist.
So they’re not good fans. These guys don’t even know enough to know what they don’t know. But that doesn’t mean they can’t be turned into fans with a little bit of education and tolerance. They got in the door to see what it’s all about, and that’s a first step. Get ’em to want to come back.
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They won’t be fans. Ever. I think you were missing the point of my post. These are people that show up and don’t even watch the game, make you stand up 14 times in 15 minutes because they need to go to the concourse/bathroom/smoke/whatever, and overall could care less about the culture. These are people that just need to kill a half an hour before their next cosmopolitan event.
They also tend to play on their cell phones a lot. Check out “Blackberry Guy” on the Pensblog fan types post from last week.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
Have you ever told them that this is rude at a hockey game? The “don’t get up while the puck is in play” thing is unique to hockey – they may just not know. If you tell them and htey keep doing it, then yeah, but try letting them know they’re being db’s first.
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the worst is baseball. there are so many stoppages in play that its not hard to find an appropriate time to get up and move to the aisle. yet how many times do i see folks get up while the pitcher is in his windup. unfathomably. but i dont think cluelessness is directly correlated with new fan ness. i think if you are clueless you are clueless regardless of how many games you’ve seen.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
It’s not really unique to hockey. It’s generally courteous in all other arenas to wait for a stoppage in play/between at-bats/innings/etc. and it’s enforced in many places. At Sunday’s game the people next to me must have had no idea a hockey game was on and did nothing but get beer/use the bathroom one right after the other for the entire game. Maddening. They also left with 1:15 left during a close game. Deplorable.
"If you want money go to the bank, if you want bread go to the bakery if you want goals go to the net." - #21
haha you know what though, if someone is asking questions and wants to learn, I have no problem with that whatsoever.
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Forgive us if we haven’t had the same uni’s since, like, prohibition.
That’s one of the single funniest things I’ve read here at the rink. Ranger fans are just pissed because our red white and blue looks better, and our boys look better in it.
Maybe Avery can get Marc Jacobs to design new unis for the Rangers, complete with custom gloves by Chanel, and RBK Blahnik “pumps.”
Cut Scotty some slack, he’s had a tough week dealing with TOM POTI MANIA!
DC Landing Strip - Waxed and Ready to Go
But Nothing Like Scotty H tasting Crow in his own Way
*Tom F-ing Poti scored. Poti. Sure he was woeful in his own end and essentially gave the Rangers at least two if not three of their goals, but the goal he scored just made me want to puke and I am hoarse right now from yelling at him all night. What a bum. Still, would rather habe (sic) him than Rozsival or Redden – cheaper incompetence
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
laser pointers
The NHL should do a real investigation and if it is found that a Rangers fan was indeed the one responsible for using the laser, then the Rangers should be docked points from the standings. The NHL needs to send a clear message to the idiots that think that shining a laser at a players face is funny, then your team is going to get punished and your name is going to get released to the public.
I’d seriously doubt that the league is going to suddenly start making an example of them when it’s been done at other arenas (in other sports) for awhile now.
Side note: Who knew laser pointers were making a return?
Related note: Welcome. I trust you’ll pick up an avatar along with your pre-blizzard sundries today.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
The big problem is that the green ones are more powerful than the red ones. They can hit airplanes from the ground. THAT is illegal as hell, and really, given the amount of damage that a green laser pointer can do to someone’s eyes, this should be a misdemeanor at a bare minimum just for trying. Apart from that, it’s the most classless move I think I’ve ever seen from a fan in a hockey game this season.
I need a snappy signature...
That’s not necessarily a bad suggestion, though. If fans knew that the team would be penalized for their bad behavior, presumably they’d stop being stupid. That can also apply to throwing things on the ice as well, something that Caps fans have been known to do in the past.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
If fans knew that the team would be penalized for their bad behavior, fans of the visiting team would take advantage of that.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 5, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions
My one observation from last night
As a rule, I think it’s pretty classless to wish injuries on any player. But last night when Drury took it in the leaf stem (PPP-related reference) from OV’s shot, a little part of me couldn’t help but wish Sean Avery was on the ice. In Drury’s place.
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
"Wilbon and Kornheiser on the Caps' post season chances"
Sorry, but after their decades of dissing and generally failing to appreciate hockey, they are non-persons.
by Bartolo on Feb 5, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Sorry, but after their decades of dissing and generally failing to appreciate hockey,
I’ve always thought Wilbon paid some attention to hockey. I’ve seen him on more than one occasion (since ESPN banned hockey) wear a Blackhawks jersey.
Someone wore a habs barber pole jersey on PTI, I can’t remember who though.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
Only Wilbon wears jerseys. Wilbon only really cares about the Blackhawks, kind of on a bandwagon level. I seem to recall TK’s knowledge comes mostly from his son who’s a Caps fan.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
Wilbon knows hockey, but it’s too low on his hierarchy, because he’s paid by ESPN to cover basketball, aside from all his other jobs. I believe he’s said he used to go to Blackhawks games.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I used to have season tickets for college basketball games. It doesn’t make me Dick Vitale.
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Didn’t say he was an expert, but he at least understands it. Tony doesn’t, and isn’t going to, ever.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I’m not sure about your analogy. The amount of sensible basketball related things Vitale says is barely above 25%. He’s a loudmouth hype machine, not an analyst.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
…who’s in the basketball HoF, as ESPN likes to remind me every time i see his shiny bald head.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
As a cheerleader. Not for his coaching or great analytical skills,
I’m glad I mainly watch Pac-10 games during the regular season, so I’m able to cut down on my exposure to Coach K’s valet.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
no argument here. college FB first in my heart; i rarely catch CBB this time of year. i mostly get my vitale through sportscenter or ESPNews.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m personally hoping that the one incident cools his appetite for another and he’ll be well-behaved from here on out.
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Did Waddell get fleeced again?
It shocks me that he was traded last night, and that he was traded for so little. I expected quite a bit more for Kovy.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
I don’t see how a Top 4 D, a solid forward, potential second C and a first round pick translate to little.
That said, based on that deal Kubina got a lot more moveable.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
We’re going to see if they got a top-four defenseman pretty quickly. Will he be as “effective” playing in front of Johan hedberg and Ondrej Pavelec, instead of Martin Brodeur? We’ll see.
But here’s the thing. If you look at the rumors leading up to the trade, there were some substantial assets identified as going the other way. Just go down the list of proposed trades that Buccigross wrote about at ESPN (to his credit, at least he put his neck out there with them).
This deal represents the BEST deal Atlanta could get. And if you believe that the team that gets the best player wins the deal, then Atlanta lost, big time. On paper, this deal really isn’t that much better than what the Thrashers got for Hossa (two grinders, a prospect, and a first round draft pick. That deal has not worked out for Atlanta. Christensen is gone, Armstrong is a serviceable player, Esposito looks more and more like a bust, and Leveille is still in college.
This group? Bergfors has potential, but when the dominant adjective attached to you is “enigmatic,” it ain’t good. Cormier might be a top-six forward someday, he might not be. He’s the Colby Armstrong of this deal. Oduya is a good defenseman, but to hear it over the last 18 hours, he’s the prototypical puck-moving, yet stay at home defenseman. As for the pick? That might be at the end of the first round (probably no better than 25th). Atlanta does not have much of a track record with first rounders that late. since Waddell took over (which means, in the entire history of the franchise), the picks from 25-30 have included: Luke Sellars, Jim Slater, Daultan Leveille.
I don’t think Waddell got fleeced as much as this deal makes the experts look bad. But I don’t think it’s much of a return for the most valuable trading asset in the last decade, either.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 5, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Seems about right to me, for 27 games of a guy.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
And if you believe that the team that gets the best player wins the deal, then Atlanta lost, big time.
Only until June, unless Kovalchuk re-signs with New Jersey, which I don’t see happening.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
Put me in the “Waddell got fleeced” category. Actually, that’s too strong. But he definitely could have gotten more. Oduya has not played well at all this year, and his 3.whatever million contract was an albatross that NJ was happy to get rid of. Bergfors is a solid prospect. Cormier is just pretty good-to-meh. If he pans out, it will be to a 3C role. Waddell should have at least held out for a better prospect.
His biggest mistake was telling teams they couldn’t negotiate with Kovy. Pointless other than for PR purposes. He could have at least attempted to get more than pure rental value out this asset. His failure to even try to do so is pure negligence.
I don’t think it’s fair to assume he could have gotten more – I just don’t see where it’d come from. I’m also a little higher on Cormier. He sound to me like he could be a second line player.
His biggest mistake was telling teams they couldn’t negotiate with Kovy. Pointless other than for PR purposes.
I disagree. If that happens, you run the risk of having too many guys back out to start a legitimate bidding war.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
If that happens, you run the risk of having too many guys back out to start a legitimate bidding war.
I’m not sure I follow. Are you saying teams would pull out of the bidding once they discovered they wouldn’t be able to re-sign Kovy? If so, I disagree. If they found that out, they would simply know they were trading for a pure-rental, which is the position they were already in.
Also consider that if you allow teams to negotiate with Kovy, you hand control of the situation over to his agent, to a substantial degree. “Sorry Mr Lamoriello, but Ilya doesn’t like the brand of hockey you play, so you might as well take that offer off the table.”
I don’t object to the way it was handled (once the decision was made to play with him for 2/3 of the season, which was a mistake imo). I think the return was about right for a rental guy.
I also think Kovy is not a sure thing on the Devils.
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I’m saying teams are probably willing to pay a little more if they think they can re-sign Kovalchuk than if they know they can’t. My guess in that there’s no way Kovalchuk signs before he hits the open market, and Waddell knows it, so letting teams talk to him would only drive the price down.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s quite possible NJD overpaid. Hard to tell when it’s so plainly a “now for later” trade, but Oduya’s solid, Bergfors is pretty damn good—and they’re both Swedes, who often take a little longer to bloom. Cormier must have captained CAN-WJC for better reasons than his elbow fetish, and a first round pick is a first round pick.
In exchange for 33 (+) games of firepower on a trap team with a nonagenarian 60-start goalie? Waddell may finally have won a round, especially for an asset he had no chance of keeping.
I vote ‘no’. Kovalchuk was going to get moved, and it was Waddell’s task to take the best offer. Obviously we don’t know the Devils were offering more than anyone else, but I’d be pretty surprised if there was a better offer on the table.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
If the Twitters were right, the other two teams supposedly in the mix (Ottawa and St. Louis if memory serves) probably didn’t have much more they could give up without significantly shaking their roster up.
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Why should they? Like the Caps, they’ve got solid chemistry going and are playing some darn good hockey right now. When you’ve got a team like that, you think long and hard before making more than depth changes.
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The timing is puzzling to me. I know that there won’t be much time after the olympics, but the market could only have gone up unless Kovy got injured.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
I think Lou saw the writing on the wall
The Devils need more offense and Lou got his man. They have two legit scoring lines now with Zajac-Parise-Elias-Kovalchuk and he didn’t break the bank to get him. Good moves for both clubs.
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
The Devils are all in on this one. They catch a break in that they gave up no pieces that are absolutely critical to this year’s success (unless you’re thinking Johnny Oduya trumps Ilya Kovalchuk). But I think the Devils’ chances of re-signing Kovalchuk start at “zero” and work their way down from there.
If a factor in Kovalchuk’s balking at re-signing with Atlanta was the unsettled ownership situation (with the possibility of a move down the road), New Jersey poses similar problems. Lamoriello will be 68 years old when the season starts next year. Martin Brodeur will be 38 in three months. Those guys won’t be there forever, and the Devils’ prospect pool is thin. By the time Kovalchuk is in year four or five in a mega-deal, he might be playing for a club that is middle-of-the-pack. Sort of like Atlanta. And he’d have to do it living in Jersey.
The Devils are all in for this year, and Kovalchuk has a chance to grab for the ring now before he picks his next city.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 5, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m with this. I think it was Wysh who mentioned in between Rolston, Shanny (before he retired) and this, this feels like a ‘one last hurrah’ type of push.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 5, 2010 10:31 AM EST up reply actions
I think Waddell played it right too. Getting a guy or two who can help them this year. No doubt he could’ve gotten a better prospect package but this allows them to remain competitive this year and get some help for the future. I fully expected him to blow it but I give him a thumbs up.
I think Bergfors alone makes the deal a good one for Atlanta, since he’ll still be an RFA for a bit. We’re talking about 27 games of Ilya Kovalchuk here.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Nice Job by Waddles
Frankly, I’m amazed at what Waddles managed to pry out of NJ for a guy who is almost certain to be a rental and really only had a couple of teams in on the bidding. Kovy has made it clear that he’s going for max money this summer and with the ATL’s messed-up ownership situation, there was no way he was going to get it from the Thrashers.
I’ve been harsh on Waddles before, and I still think he couldn’t draft his way out of a paper sack, but getting a serviceable top-3 defenseman, a young scoring winger, a promising (albeit thuggish) defensive prospect and a first-round pick (which Waddles will probably waste on a sack of crap) is a pretty damn good return under the circumstances. It kinda makes you wonder why he didn’t get more in return for Hossa…
I also don’t think this really helps the Devils all that much. I can’t imagine Kovy being all that enthusiastic about playing in Lemaire’s system. People keep comparing this to the trade that brought them Mogilny in 2000, forgetting that the Devils were actually a high-scoring team that year (and the next). I’m guessing he’ll improve their power-play, but struggle to fit into their defense-first system 5v5. Moreover, I just perused the Devs’ roster and I have to imagine that Ovie’s eyes will light up like roman candles when he takes the warmup and sees Paul Martin, Bryce Salvador, Colin White, Andy Greene and Mike Mottau on the other side of the ice.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’m not convinced he’s going for max money in the summer. I think he just said he wanted max money from Atlanta so they’d turn him down and trade him. They surprised him by actually offering him max money, and he left anyway. He wants to be on a winner and I think he’ll take Ovie money for the opportunity to be on that kind of team.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I agree. Kovalchuk was offered $101M over 12 years and a contract that would have given him $10 million per year. I can’t imagine he thinks he’s getting more than that anywhere else.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions
That’s irrelevant for Atlanta though. Put this in real estate terms – your house might be very valuable in theory, but if you can’t pay your mortgage, it’s just a distressed asset and you’ll never get full price for it because buyers know you’re desperate to sell.
Atlanta was in the same situation with Kovy, but I probably should have worded that better. Still, I think it’s clear that he’s looking for Ovie-type money, and if I were an NHL GM, there’s no way I’d give it to him. He’s simply not the same caliber of player.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I think the only knock I’d put on him in the negotiations is that it became pretty clear he was never going to sign. Maybe management was a little slow to see the writing on the wall and should have been looking to trade him earlier, before the market value started dropping.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
100% agree. This talk of NJ now being the team to beat is to say the least a little premature. Let’s see how he does in that system, how he meshes with the other players, what the loss of Oduya does, etc.
I feel like you’ve given a lot of credit to the guys coming from the other side, and neglect to include Salmella in the equation.
Bergfors and Oduya are nice players. Cormier is at best a 3rd liner. The 1st will be what, 26th? Would you have sent Flash/Poti/Bourque and the first rounder to rent the Kovy? Or if the Caps need defense, Pronger for the rest of the year?
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
Are you watching a lot of games at the Q to determine Cormier’s future before he even goes pro? I know I’m not, but considering his assets and the organizational depth, it wouldn’t surprise me to see him be a 2/3C for them in a year or two.
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I haven’t. I’ll take the ding on that, but who would you equate him too? Is the CB comparison that far off? He’s a different style player for sure, but he isn’t blowing the Q away with his offense. He’s as likely to succeed and be a 2C as he is to be a Carcillo right, a tough with a bit of handle?
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
Based on what I’ve read, he’s got solid two-way skills, works hard and is good with his size (assuming he stays healthy). He’s got 2/3C potential, but has a better shot playing on the wing if Atlanta’s more developed C prospects pan out. Assuming that happens, combined with the big club’s current makeup on C and LW, would suggest he could get 15 minutes a night if/when he comes up.
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It’s not so much credit as to what’s coming the other way as it’s a realization that Waddles was over a barrel with his pants around his ankles. (I could continue with this metaphor, but it gets pretty disgusting, pretty quickly.)
Now, the real counterargument in my opinion is: “Waddles put himself over that barrel and pulled his own pants down when he failed to trade Kovy last year or at the draft this summer.”
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Depends on how realistic re-signing Kovy was. Remember that we went through the same thing before Ovie signed his extension. Ovie needs to be Montreal or Toronto stories, rumors that Ovie wanted to make max money stories, etc.
"Ah, dinner. The perfect break between work and drunk." - Homer Simpson
It was clear from last year that there was no way Kovy was re-signing, particularly with the Thrash’s ownership situation being what it is. Maybe if they had REALLY stormed out of the gate with Antropov and Afinogenov. . . Nah.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I can’t help but wonder what role perception played in all this. You move Kovalchuk before it’s a sure thing that you can’t re-sign him and you give credence to all the criticisms of the front off ice situation down there. Plus this way the Thrashers get Kovalchuk for the majority of the season, and if that pushes them into the playoffs, maybe it’s worth it.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah. I guess you can go back and forth on this, but I compare it to the Halladay situation in Toronto. They really should have unloaded him earlier because the return is higher for a non-rental.
The real question with Kovy is: “Where does he end up next year?” Anyone think that MTL or TOR might make a serious pitch?
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I think Toronto makes a run if they can find the cap space. I think LA would be interested too.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
Probably not, but after getting Dion I think Toronto has enough truculence.
I think Doh & DMG are spot on that those two teams will be among the biggest players involved in the sweepstakes. Both would offer top dollar and the endorsement possibilities would be endless for him. I keep telling people that he is going to get a huge deal. It’s not every year a guy with his scoring talents at his age becomes available.
The one team that could desperately use his scoring, his high profile and has tons of cap space resides down the road from me. Sadly they won’t be in the mix.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
but after getting Dion I think Toronto has enough truculence.
And I am once again reminded that “Dion” is a funny name for a physical defenseman
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
If he was smart, he would take a somewhat smaller deal (dollars wise, not length) in a big hockey market with a team who looks to be a contender come playoff time. The endorsement money he would pickup with increased exposure would likely offset the lower salary, and frankly, having a decent shot at winning the cup is worth somewhat of a pay cut.
over a barrel with his pants around his ankles. (I could continue with this metaphor, but it gets pretty disgusting, pretty quickly.)
One word: bung
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Weather: What's everybody's plan to get to/from the game tonight?
I’m going to get on a bus to the metro to get there.. hopefully the same will work to get home. Failing that, pay through the nose for a cab.
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I think me and Scott in Shaw are the only two folks on here who actually live in the District. ;)
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I’m in my office on K Street waiting for the snow to start falling. I’ll be taking the Red Line to the game and the Green Line home. If it’s pandemonium, I’ll just walk ;-)
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Where are you on K? I’m at 17th…
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20th — wait, shit, is it my turn to take a picture of the intersection for Knuble’s goal total?
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
Ha! Anyhow, we should meet up for a drink before a game some time. . . I can reminisce about when I used to live in Shaw…
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Absolutely.
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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2010 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Whoa, you’re right near me too. I’m at 19th and M.
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 5, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like we’ve got a drinking troika.
“Add in some potatoes. . . Brotha, you got a stew going!”
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by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“I think I’d like my money back. "
"Now wait a minute. This is just purely a social call. You know, just two adults getting a stew on, man."
by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 5, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
“I’m afraid I blew myself prematurely.”
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by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Metro said if they get more then 8 inches they will close the above ground stations. So keep that in mind. (I’m in arlington so I’ll be there)
I thought it was if they couldn’t clear the snow and it accumulated more than 8" on the tracks, they would have to shut those tracks down until it was cleared. So it seems it would be more like a rolling outage.
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Not a bad idea.. It’s all underground from Ballston to VC, right?
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hmmm i wonder what a hotel room would cost down in arlington for tonight and tomorrow night.. i could then go to DC tonight.. take the underground metro to ballston… crash.. then head to the pickup w/ out any issues!
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Anybody know when/if the above ground stations were closed last time?
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For those of you taking Metro, here’s their information page.
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I panicked and sold my tickets to my seat neighbors last night. I live too far from Metro to take the risk tonight.
Watch, it won’t snow. Frankly, that would suit me just fine.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
I’m planning to drive into DC; I have a RAV4 that handles well in the snow (it’s a 2008, so no recall problems), and paying for parking trumps getting stuck in downtown DC because Metro shut down.
I need a snappy signature...
Not confident in my car’s snow ability. Still trying to figure out a decent way to get home :/
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As much as I love going to see the caps play, and especially how much I love going for free, I saw a ton of abandoned cars during the last snow storm and don’t want to have any part of that.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
my plan may just just solidified (is that even a word?)..
Plan is as follows..
Take Metro into DC from N.Carrollton. where i will be leaving my car until sunday.
attend tonights not so marquee match-up.
Crash w/ a friend in DC(pending approval haha)
Taking metro from VC to Ballston Saturday and check into a hotel near Kettler (65 bucks)
hang out and play at the pickup and such.
Leave VA and head to pens game sunday.
I think thats a promising plan all depending on my friend in DC at this point
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
I know, this kid is serious.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
sadly, I sold my tickets for tonight’s game to a friend.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
Crickey, that was an ugly game.
What happened to the PK?
What happened to playing disciplined hockey?
It is great to see them find a way to win, but I’m growing a little nervous that they are starting to think that they don’t have to work to win.
Sooner than later, they aren’t going to be able to pull a win out of their collective ass.
Just so long as that doesn’t happen on Sunday…..
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So he is officially "clutch". . . .right?
I imagine after last night’s performance the talk about AO not being as clutch as Sid should stop, or at least subside for a while right? Sure Ovie has 4 or 5 empty net goals but that is a symbol of how the caps hold 1 or 2 goal leads rather than Ovie’s “unclutcheness”. Secondly, the Caps have secondary and tertiary (??) scoring so the wealth is spread around and more players have a chance to get the GWG. A little interesting side note about the lack of depth for the Pens: Crosby and Malkin have scored or had 1st assist on something like 23 of the last 24 goals scored by the Pens.
With all that said I think Ovie has the same or close to the same number of GWG as Sid, so verbal diarhhea about his lack of clutchness (I kinda like, and any derivative therof, that word) should stop.
Any discussion of the game winning goals statistic as anything other than a “hey that’s kind of neat” novelty item should stop.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Scoring the 2nd goal in a 7-1 rout isn’t an indication of being clutch. I think that’s what he means.
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scoring the third goal in the third period of a 3-2 game should mean something, though.
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The problem is do you get someone to evaluate the clutchness of each goal?
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Right. In a 1-goal game, how is any goal more clutch than any of the others?
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I just think you know them when you see them.
But I’m really not passionate about this topic.
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Actually, this I agree with. Which is why I don’t think you can measure clutchiness with stats. Clutchiness is real, but it’s context-based, and I don’t think it lends itself to numeric analysis.
(note that I’m not saying that clutchiness is a real trait of players. I think talent is real — I’m not convinced that players actually elevate their game during clutch situations. But I am saying there really are clutch goals that mean more than other goals)
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
And scoring the 5th goal in what going into the last minute is an 8-3 game, but your team gives up a meaningless 4th goal in the last few seconds, doesn’t make your goal any more clutch than it was before.
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions
its not an indication of being clutch yet that second goal of 7 in a 7-1 rout is more clutch than any any other goal scored that game.
by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 5, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I suppose I say that with the assumption that the teams were tied at 1, which of course is not necessarily ever the case. So more accurately the go ahead goal is the clutch goal. . .rivaled by any goals that are scored when a team is losing (within say a deficit of three goals with enough time to make a comeback, when down 4 goals with 2 mins left and you score one, that is not clutch with no hope of scoring three more). However, in the example above, in a 7-1 rout, there was at most one goal more clutch than the second of 7.
by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 5, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Not following this at all. Is the assumption that the following 5 goals wouldn’t have been scored? Because if they would have, then you take away the 2nd goal and the result is 6-1. Same result.
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
yes that is the assumption, because in the moment in which any goal is scored, you have no way of knowing how many other goals will be scored. So assuming scoring went like this. Caps score first for 1-0 lead, other team scores to tie 1-1. Caps score next for 2-1 lead. If no more scoring happens game ends 2-1. In the moment that is all you know, there is no way to predict 5 more goals will be scored. To put an end to this, I suppose the clutchness of a goal is on a case by case basis depending on the individual circumstances of each game. Point taken.
by Lunatic Fringe on Feb 5, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
How so?
I’ve always thought that the third goal scored (total, not necessarily by one team) is the most important.
If you’re up 2-0, a 3-0 lead is almost always insurmountable.
If you’re down 0-2, scoring brings you back in the game.
If you’re tied 1-1, it’s the go-ahead goal.
It’s anecdotal, of course, although I’m sure Hawerchuck or tangotiger or some metrics guy could tell me if I’m full of shit or not.
The circumstances of what makes up a game winning goal vary so much I don’t think it’s possible to tell much from them. Sure, maybe an overtime winner is clutch, but J.P.‘s example of a 7-1 rout is an example of when a GWG isn’t clutch. So is, for example, scoring the second goal of a four-goal first period when your team wins 4-1 on a goal in the last two minutes for the other side, or a situation where a team goes up 6-1 in the second and then gives up a couple lazy ones in the third, or a 2-1 where a guy scored on his first shift four minutes in to the game to put his team up 2-0. In those situation the goals don’t become retroactively “clutch”, but they’re still GWGs.
Then think of situations that are a lot more meaningful – scoring a goal to put your team up 4-2 rather than 3-2 in the last five minutes; scoring to tie a game in the last couple minutes; those aren’t reflected in GWG.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions
Okay, I agree that GWG isn’t a great correlation with being clutch. That said is there a better stat? GTGs?
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
If you really want to quantify things, I’d go with the following:
OT Game Winners
SO Game Winners
GWG in the 3rd Period
GTG in the 3rd Period
Insurance (+1 to a 1 goal lead) in the 3rd Period
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by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You really put a SO winner as more clutch than a GTG in the third? I don’t think shootout goals aren’t clutch at all. The shooter knows exactly what he’s going to do before going in and the goalie either gets burnt or doesn’t.
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We can debate to death whether or not we like the shootout. However, the fact remains that scoring that goal gets his team a point, and not scoring has a decent chance of losing the same point. That’s a clutch situation in my opinion.
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I just don’t think you need to be clutch to score it. You get a free breakaway and as much time as you want to try to beat a goalie. Girouix could score in our shootouts.
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The problem is that the SO favors the goalie, and I know this because I did a crapload of research recently for an upcoming FanPost. Scoring on a SO is much lower than 50% and, what’s more, it appears to be a semi-repeatable skill.
So, probabilistically, the shooter shouldn’t score, but good players seem to be able to alter that ratio somewhat consistently. And an entire point hangs in the balance.
I’d say that’s a pretty high-leverage/clutch situation.
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Advantage is definitely for the goalie. There really isn’t any debating that. I just don’t consider it clutch because I don’t think there is a lot of pressure on the player.
A shootout goal from someone like Brooks Laich to keep the SO going is more clutch to me than the winning SO goal from someone like Semin.
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Leage Leaders
I’m not technically proficient enough to post a “screen shot” but it’s nice to look at nhl.com’s Stats/League Leaders page. Ovi’s mug all over it, Backstrom’ name as well and even a Schultz. Then there’s the standings page. Basking in the glory, at least for now. . .
Here you go :)
Mac makes this insanely easy. Long live the Grab application.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
That is a good point though. Hopefully people will start seeing how good he is (like all of us already do) as he’s tops in the league just like (but not because of) OV.
Just watching the highlights from last night again. Ovi’s shovel-goal (point 500) was nice, but for my money, the two prettiest goals were the first two. In both goals, the LW pulls Lundquist out of position (Brads with a shot, Ovi going behind the net); the puck ends up in front of the net in the hands of the C, who is off balance and can’t shoot (Steckel then Backstrom); so the C passes to the trailing RW who puts it in the empty side of the net (Gordon, then Knuble).
Tic-tac-toe passing. A sixth sense for where your teammate is. Creativity.
Teamwork.
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Tic-tac-toe passing. A sixth sense for where your teammate is. Creativity.
These are the kinds of things that happen when you leave line combos together for long periods of time. Ovie-Backstrom-Knuble has got to be the best line in hockey.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
I’d hold Marleau-Thornton-Heatley and what I call the Third Wheel Line (Sedin-Sedin-Burrows) in that conversation as well.
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Sedin-Sedin-Burrows is close, from what I’ve heard.
But yeah, totally.
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So he’ll probably get the start. Doesn’t this stop his chance to play during the Olympic break?
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For those who were talking about this recently, Capitals Red Line Monday is back.
http://capitals.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=516357
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Reading through it, they’ve replaced Professor Bradley with a real professor. Boo!
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Theme song for the day, Pixies, “No. 13 Baby”
by patred48 on Feb 5, 2010 10:15 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Johnny Cash (via Glenn Danzig) wants to chime in.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 5, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pixies are legends, but that’s a so-so song in my book. Other suggestions:
*Blur’s 13 album
*Anything by the 13th Floor Elevators
*Fugazi’s 13 Songs
*"Room 13" by Black Flag
And, for the avant garde japers:
*"Piano Piece #13" by George Maciunas
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 5, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Bondra's 5 Goal Game...
Again the HHOF leaves out some details. The crowd that night was about 2,000 since there was a big snowstorm that day in DC and most folks couldn’t get to the arena. I lived about 8 miles from Landover at the time, so I was able to get there, and they let everyone sit whereever they wanted…. I sat about 3 rows in front of Ron Weber and got to hear his play by play during the game…
Let's go Caps!
Post Game Part at Penn Quarter
Guys, I think it’s best we cancel this. I haven’t done anything official with it because I’ve been waiting to see just how bad the storm is. I’m not sure how many of us are going to be able to make it, and if it’s going to snow as hard as they’re thinking when the game gets out, I really think its safer that we all just head home, rather than imbibe in alcohol and wings for a few hours and then try to get through 12 inches of snow.
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On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
how does March 6 sound. The opponent is none other than the Rags.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
All you game-goers be safe out there. I just read a book on the Donner Party, and I don’t want to hear about any cannibalism at the Phone Booth.
I have a C on my heart.
Photobucket’d
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
worth doing twice you mean? ;)
Not sure who that is, but I guess some might not recognize mine either.
Not sure I get this reference. Not sure I care.
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She plays “Thirteen” on House. I forget why House calls her that.
What is best in life? To crush your enemies, see them driven back to Pittsburgh, and hear the lamentations of Sidney Crosby.
That was her number when he was interviewing new candidates wasn’t it?
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
yup
good lord she’s skinny
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
House. One of the junior doctors. He gave them numbers when they were audtitioning, American Idol style.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Haven’t seen Rome, but I disagree on principle. Vikings > all else.
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I dunno…what I was referencing above: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXL_VUaBtGI
Warning NSFW – extremely violent.
Except for Saints.
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by Holt Worth on Feb 5, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I may name my first born son Titus Pullo. Or my dog. one of the two.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 5, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
So if you have twins or two dogs, the other will be Lucius Vorenus?
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Just posted my photos of last night’s game on Flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrismgordon/sets/72157623232979747/
Пойдем шапки!
Дайте волю ярости!
- Криса
Chris, great pic of all the dads
I love how they are all in proper road unis.
IS KEPTIN NOW
by EmilyB on Feb 5, 2010 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That may be the 1st time I’ve ever seen the entire suite at a game actually watching the game.
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Thats the first time anyone has ever seen a suite where everyone knows what icing is.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
In New York, you mean. Caps dads have been in other suites.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
25 point lead?!?!?!
I know this is the latest in a season the Caps have ever lead the East (and for that matter the league) but it is safe to assume the Caps have never had this large of a lead for their division? Pre-lockout they were usually in the middle of the pack within the division with the exception of a few years here and there. Does anyone know what the largest lead any team has had in a any division previous to the lead the Caps hold now?
Anybody else appreciate that they’re going for number 13 on a Friday?
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Don’t tell Alzner, he’d probably collapse from the anxiety.
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13 works for me as well. I don’t do superstitious business, so when I played sports I always chose 13. I also walk under ladders and had a black cat as a kid.
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I had a job as a mirror breaker in a mirror factory.
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by jordanDC on Feb 5, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t do superstitious business
I hope the Caps get a SHUTOUT
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by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Does anyone have any explanation for the rash of violence occurring in major junior hockey? This is really turning into a big problem for them.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/More-hockey-violence-Assault-charge-on-spear-Q?urn=nhl,217904#remaining-content
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Wow. That’s a nasty elbow, and a really gruesome photo of the aftermath…
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I watched a ton of junior hockey growing up. The game is no more violent now than it ever was, it’s just getting covered like pro sports. Suddenly, incidents that used to get buried in the fine print on the back page of a sports section are blowing up on the internet and 24-hour news.
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by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Now get off my damn lawn!
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Rec’d. You get a bunch of 15-21 year olds playing an extremely fast, inherently violent game and stuff like that is going to happen all the time. The difference is that now it’s on YouTube and Puck Daddy.
Hell, ever seen a D-III college game? Those guys are more interested in killing each other than willing.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Hell, ever seen a D-III college game? Those guys are more interested in killing each other than willing.
I went to a D-III school. Not only are the guys on the ice more interesting in killing each other, that’s what crazy drunk college students in podunk little towns want to see, too. Our school had quite the nasty reputation, no one liked playing us at home because they knew the team would just goon it up for the fans. We were also god awful at hockey.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
I also hate to say this, but it’s what frat boys give players high fives for and what attracts the ladies, and that plays a role.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
we didn’t have frat boys. Just an entire student body that realize our team sucked real bad and the only entertainment value was beating the crap out of the opposing team.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Youtube. I don’t think it’s worse than it was. I think it’s more accessible.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 5, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Good Corey news
Corey tweets -
Employment (sort of) update: I will be writing some freelance articles for @csnwashington … first one will be up on the site later today.
Might also see my name appear on some nhl.com stories in the near future, and there is the weekly CapsWrap in the Examiner. Working > not!
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by CP2Devil on Feb 5, 2010 11:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Any employment for Corey is a good thing.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
The problem with trying to outrun a freight train.
IS KEPTIN NOW
by EmilyB on Feb 5, 2010 11:28 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Heh.
The Washington captain led the NHL in goals the last two years, was first in points in 2008 and won the last two Hart Trophies. Other than that, he’s overrated.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
Heh indeed...
OTTAWA — The problem with trying to outrun a freight train, besides sprinting across creosote-soaked railway ties, is the train never gets tired so there is no time to rest.
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I almost feel bad for the s*ns, they get a lot less love for their 11 games.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
"WE'RE GOING STREAKING!!!"
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by D'ohboy on Feb 5, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
do. not. tempt. highslot.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
Cool Hand Bruce
I can just see it now:
“Taking it off here Boss.”
“Take it off there, Brooks.”
. . . and in the VC, every female fan’s head explodes…
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
Nifty tidbit from today’s game notes:
Youth is served –Washington is the only team in the NHL whose top six scorers are all under 30 years old.
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
Knuble needs to show the kids the way.
Things may look good for us to contend in the long run, provided the boys stick with us for the long term.
Memo to boys — if you want high salary, there may not be enough room to sign a good supporting cast for you, especially if you want to be with a winning team.
Rocking the Red since 1975
Behind the scenes on the road
I just posted a fanshot at Five for Howling on a 12 minute video clip from AZCentral on rooming with teammates on the road. I know its on the Coyotes, not the Caps. However, I figured some fans, especially newer ones, might be interested in this type of behind the scenes stuff.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
35th Season Celebration Postponed
Due to the impending weather, we will move the 35th Season game festivities to the March 6 game vs. New York Rangers. The poster giveaway will take place both at tonight’s game as well as March 6. The jersey auction, history display, alumni signings, and special videos will all take place at the March 6 game.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
Agreed. I wasn’t originally going to go, but was jazzed about the odds at the auction tonight given attendance might be down!
Game-Over Green? Canada-Over Carlson!
by Scott in Shaw on Feb 5, 2010 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
no love for the diehards… who may die in the snovechkin blizzard of 2010!!!!
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
via e-mail.
Kung-fu Rink Rabbit
On Draper having to wear a USA jersey at practice: "well at least the Wings can settle bets without involving gold plated desert eagles!"
its in the game notes fyi – bottom of the email.
"the other day on sportscenter they said something along the lines of "the capitals score so much tiger woods is jealous" haha had me laughing hard while i was eating my cereal"
...
…of course, it works better if I’m reading the right e-mail address. :-p
I need a snappy signature...
Anyone else thinking that Matt Bradley’s on the clock to score on this one?
No Alex, no ratings. Know Alex, know ratings.
Off-topic
This was over on Blueshirt Banter a few minutes ago… funny stuff!
I need a snappy signature...
by IRockTheRed on Feb 5, 2010 12:47 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
I don’ know if ya heard, but we gots an OT thread today, though that is very topical considering who we just played.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
i’m only one input, but for my money, anything hockey-related should be encouraged here at clips. that GIF is INCREDIBLE!! was it from blueshirbanter?
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 5, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
My tickets for tonight
I bought them on ebay. They are just scanned images of an actual STH ticket. I called the asshole and he is assuring me that many many people have bought tickets from him like this in the past and they haven’t had a problem getting in. Says he’ll refund me+$50 if I have a problem. Have a crazy feeling I’m going to be $50 richer.
Anybody ever experienced this? I called the VC box office and they said no way will they let me in. The douchebag said “they always say that, they have to say that” and that they’ll just scan the thing and let me go through.
I’m so fucking pissed right now, I can’t even tell you.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
It probably will scan but I don’t know if it would work. Where are you sitting and how much did you pay? I’m looking to get rid of my tickets and can email you real print outs.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
*and by work I mean if the gate agents will care.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
411 H, $75 for the pair.. if by “get rid of” you mean “free” I’m all in. I’d need two.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I meant as in return his and use mine. Mine are better seats for 70$
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
I got some for free from a very nice Rabbit. Thanks for the offer though, Z.
In the process of getting my money back from this jerk through ebay.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
scanned image of tickets? Very doubtful. If he’s a STH he can email them to you for $2 from his online account.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
You just need the bar code. Sounds like it could work. In theory.
There's a fine line between arrogance and ignorance and only I manage to erase that line.
I’m worried about getting stiff-armed by the ticket-scanners.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
Print out a copy of the back side of a ticket and tape it together.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
If I can’t get tickets from one of the fine folks here, I’m just going to be nonchalant about it. Present ticket, get it scanned hopefully.
My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.
I bought them on ebay. They are just scanned images of an actual STH ticket. I called the asshole and he is assuring me that many many people have bought tickets from him like this in the past and they haven’t had a problem getting in. Says he’ll refund me+$50 if I have a problem. Have a crazy feeling I’m going to be $50 richer.
Anybody ever experienced this? I called the VC box office and they said no way will they let me in. The douchebag said "they always say that, they have to say that" and that they’ll just scan the thing and let me go through.
Yes, I have. It worked.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Tale of the Tape Take Two
Finally got the “C” on Ovi’s sweater, and I’m kinda digging the weagle/waddlebird staredown in the center.
IS KEPTIN NOW
by EmilyB on Feb 5, 2010 1:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Or...
Is Crosby’s so big so that he can A) remember his initial, B) compensate for something, or C) so that the team remembers he’s Large and In Charge?
;-)
I need a snappy signature...
Why can’t a large C be a large C?
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
:) I couldn’t resist, I’m sorry!
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
I’m 99% sure they’re actually the same size.
by David M. Getz on Feb 5, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s go to the rulebook!
Rule 6 – Captain and Alternate Captains:
… He shall wear the letter "C," approximately three inches (3’’) in height and in contrasting color, in a conspicuous position on the front of his sweater….
So no, they don’t all have to be exactly the same size, but they’re all close. And Bob Errey can eat a fucking porcupine.
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Size matters??
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
It’s not the size that matters, it’s how you use it
Every time Nicky scores a goal, an angel gets its wings.
by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 5, 2010 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
Tonight's Prediction, Brooksie will help make it a
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
And for the Rabbits, Brooksie will bring it with icing....
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
I gots nothing.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
Did anyone go to Puck Daddy....
…and see the Jose Theodore/Cam Ward broadcast error?
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
just not your day eh?
I saw it though lol. Maybe Theo is channeling the 2006 Conn Smythe version of Cam Ward. Good omen for POs?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
Nate tweeted it, but I know a bunch of you aren’t on the twitters, so here is this article on the wings.
Stuff like this makes me so warm and fuzzy:
But neither are Crosby and certainly not Ovechkin (who may be one of the greats of all time).
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
To those who won’t read the full article that quote is a little puzzling out of context:
Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk are second-tier superstars with first-tier pricetags. I guess you’d consider that a backhanded compliment. They are great players. But neither are Crosby and certainly not Ovechkin (who may be one of the greats of all time). They can’t carry the Wings by themselves.
Nice read, thanks Ovechwin.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
Haha. Is anyone else more confused with the context?
I mean, clearly I’m missing something, but there’s a “neither” statement that follows a statement of what Dats and Zets “are”. Can someone explain it for me?
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 5, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
To me it implies that Crosby and Ovechkin are first-tier superstars who could carry the wings.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
Yeah, I guess that’s probably what he was trying to convey.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 5, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
What he means is, “neither of Zetterberg or Datsyuk are first tier superstars, who can can carry a club by themselves, such as perhaps Crosby or certainly Ovechkin, who looks like an all time great.”
In other words, add an “[of them]” after the “neither” and it reads easier.
"You want to start being part of the Rink? Fine, but more’s expected of you than John/Jane Cap Fan. Carry the cause of informed discussion to the unwashed masses and don’t crap in the yards of other SBN sites if you decide to go over there. They’re passionate about their teams too, no need to troll elsewhere and/or be a sore winner." --BP
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. There we go. Nice work.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 5, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Should read “They are great players, but neither is Crosby or Ovechkin.” The period makes it seem odd.
Поклон перед вашим капитаном!
by Knubles and Bits on Feb 5, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Here is a direct link by the way.
Tom Brady is Sidney Crosby, except Tom Brady has felt the touch of a woman, and has his own house.
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| GP | W | L | OTL | PT | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Washington
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82 | 54 | 15 | 13 | 121 |
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Atlanta
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82 | 35 | 34 | 13 | 83 |
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Carolina
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82 | 35 | 37 | 10 | 80 |
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Tampa Bay
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82 | 34 | 36 | 12 | 80 |
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Florida
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82 | 32 | 37 | 13 | 77 |
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