Behavior of this ilk is unacceptable and the league – whether in conjunction with the team or not – must send a strong message. If Sean Avery was given six games for what essentially amounts to behavior detrimental to the sport, Ovechkin’s punishment must
Edward Fraser from THN calling for a suspension for Ovechkin because of his incident with the cameraperson.
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Heh. Pretty much.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 26, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Any article that literally opens with “None of us know the details regarding Alex Ovechkin shoving a person with a camera” and ends with a call for him to be suspended for six games deserves…
(And not just because proper grammar is “None of us knows…”)
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by J.P. on Feb 26, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions 26 recs
As we often say, I regret that I have but one rec to give.
World is full of a**holes, and a ton of them seem to be writing about hockey.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
That porcupine ain’t for eating, my friend. That porcupine is for … elsewhere.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
by EmilyB on Feb 26, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
THAT, my friend is a BAML porcupine (Bad-A$$-Mario-Lemieux?)
I need a snappy signature...
by IRockTheRed on Feb 27, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Sort of…I’m using Kevin Smith’s version of cusswords that he used on NHL.com, substituting [Lemieux] for Fu** and [Gretzky] for Sh**. I also have been known to use [Avery] for As* (as in Sean Avery is an [Avery]-hole). I’ve had a couple of one shots as well, but I’ve forgotten some of them…
Let's go Caps!
So it’s a Bad Avery Milbury Lemieux porcupine?
I need a snappy signature...
by IRockTheRed on Feb 28, 2010 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you… the Porcupine T.
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It's Great, but...
…I would have added a speech balloon that proudly has the porcupine saying “Eat me!”
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Feb 27, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The once-congenial and ultra-media-friendly Ovechkin has shown progressive cracks in his off-ice demeanor for some time now, culminating with his Olympic availability where he essentially ignored the English media during the tournament.
I love how the media have gotten pissy about his availability during the Olympics (which may or may not be his doing) are now acting like this is part of a longer trend of Ovechkin acting like a jerk off the ice.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
This guy is the editor?
And by the way, where the fuck is the Boyle suspension, and why isn’t this pantywaist dickskinning about that? porcupine-eating douchebag
Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.
by bigonetimer on Feb 26, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
And if we’re talking disrespect for the sport, where are suspensions for the idiot moves of young Mr. Kane? Get over it, jerks. (not you guys)
I have a C on my heart.
Wasn’t Avery’s sloppy seconds comments made in a NHL locker room? If my memory is in fact correct then this is apples and oranges….but if we’re to assume that Mr. Fraiser is right and this behavior is worthy of a suspension does that mean Boyle’s slew foot is also open season?
Actually, didn’t Avery call a press scrum for the purpose of making those comments? Waaaaaay different case.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Feb 26, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Avery may not have been in the locker room, but he was in the building, and was at the morning skate, meaning he was at work at his NHL job.
Ovechkin was not at any official Olympic venue… even then at that time he does not represent the Washington Capitals or NHL technically (he always does, but only in the ethical sense…)
Let's go Caps!
Why do you say “Avery may not have been in the locker room” when he clearly was?
And AO always represents the Caps and the NHL in more than an ethical sense – he does so in a contractual sense as well.
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No, actually it was on national TV, and he pulled the media guys over to him to make the comment. Different completely.
I need a snappy signature...
I don’t know the location, but he did call the TV guy over to him to make the comment.
Does not matter where he did it.
I need a snappy signature...
by IRockTheRed on Feb 27, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Of course it matters…players are, and should be, held to a different standard when they’re at work.
So you’re on the suspend OV trolley?
no, she’s not. she’s saying avery’s actions were even worse than just being in the locker room since they seemed premeditated. i think you two are agreeing here: apples to oranges between avery and AO.
by Natty Bumppo on Feb 27, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I know I’m in the minority here, but while I can’t stand Avery, I laughed my ass off that the NHL suspended him for that. It’s what Avery does, and he does it really well, he gets in other players’ heads.
I am a hockey fan first, and a Caps fan second.
by iwearstripes on Feb 27, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Premeditated rampant misogyny should not be brushed off.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Feb 27, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure that qualifies as rampant or misogyny.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 27, 2010 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I perceive it so. But I think the feminist treatises were plentiful enough at the time that I won’t make this threadjack even worse.
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Feb 28, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was a completely dick move on Ovie’s part; he could have just kept walking.
That said, this article is fucking retarded.
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by turnituptoeleven on Feb 26, 2010 9:27 PM EST reply actions
So you’re on the phone with someone.
Your team just blew up on the ice and got killed by Canada.
Someone’s pointing a camera at your face.
I’d give the camera a push out of my face, too.
Also, a 6’3" hockey player could have done a LOT worse than that gentle push.
I need a snappy signature...
The camera was in his face? Really?
Look, I love Ovie, and I realize this is a complete aberration from the last five years, but lets not kid ourselves. The guy acted like a total asshole.
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by turnituptoeleven on Feb 27, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Ok. I have just seen the video of this new incident (AO blog).
After seeing this latest video I have no respect for the cameraman. He is following Ovie throughout the bar. Everyone Ovie is with looks uncomfortable and hunted. That is the behavior of a stalker. Nor is there evidence that Ovie touches the camera. Elsewhere, the camera man admitted that he (the cameraman) dropped his own camera.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
The camera was in his face? Really?
Wait, did you not see the video?
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 27, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's the Milbury-blogger deal again
If the guy is acting like a total a-hole, then who needs to act professional?
Ovechkin = Green Backs
by red army line on Feb 27, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
In both incidents, the person with the camcorder 1) Has the right to shoot in a public space, and 2) Isn’t crowding him at all. Jesus, he’s a couple tables away in the second video, and in the first video, Ovie goes out of his way to push the lens. Let’s dispense with the whole “Ovie was a victim, and justified b/c he was just embarrassed on the ice” crap.
Maybe I have trouble sympathizing with the Ovechkin’s situation because I get so much of that crap on a semi-daily basis.
This link: http://www.offwingphoto.com/2008/04/photographers-rights/
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by turnituptoeleven on Feb 27, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not sure what the other incident you’re talking about is (I clearly missed something) but in the first video we saw the person ABSOLUTELY is crowding him, and Ovechkin does NOT go out of his way to push the lens.
Let’s dispense with the whole "Ovie was a victim, and justified b/c he was just embarrassed on the ice" crap.
I never said anything like this.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 27, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
In the bar video, you can clearly see that the person is using a zoom lens. He’s not crowding him at all.
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by turnituptoeleven on Feb 27, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
And I clearly stated that I hadn’t seen this video and all my comments were in reference to the other video.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 27, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm interesting so should the hockey player that got into a bar fight during the winter olympics (sorry forgot the name and too lazy to look it up) get suspended? How about that goalie that got arrested for DUI you know since driving drunk puts other individuals in danger? Funny that he call out this incident which didn’t cause any harm to the individual filming yet a bar fight and driving while intoxicated are okay? I get Ovechkin is a star but let’s get real for all we know the person filming was wearing a shirt that said f u ovi you and russians are an abomination to the olympics and hockey. So here’s a thought how about you get all the facts before printing up this ridiculous opinion.
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
by jenlee0828 on Feb 26, 2010 10:18 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
The NHL...
…has no jurisdiction in this circumstance. Avery’s comment was made in an NHL building, meaning he was under their rules.
In the Olympic area where Ovechkin was, there is nothing the NHL can do. And as long as he was not at an Olympic venue, the IIHF and IOC have no jurisdiction either.
Nothing will come of this, other than perhaps an apology from Alex once his frustration wears off….
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Caps on Feb 26, 2010 11:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
You nailed it right on the head. A Rec for you.
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
You’re probably right from a practical matter, but the truth is they set their own jurisdiction and can do basically whatever they want. I think they’ll choose to do nothing, and the reasons you list are some of the reason why, but they absolutely could do something and nobody could stop them.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 27, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Absolutely. Players have conduct clauses in their contracts that would allow for such discipline.
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I’m sure they do, but they’re for issues like Gilbert Arenas.
I’m not saying what Ovie did was bad… but then, Patrick Kane was arrested for assault and nothing came out from that. Blocking a camera is much less of an issue than beating up a cabbie…
Let's go Caps!
I agree – calling for a suspension here is ridonkulous.
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Where we’re going we don’t need roads jurisdiction…
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 27, 2010 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder
How many interviews Crosby gave with the Russian media, or the Swedish media? I hope they’re taking him to task for being such an inconsiderate monster. Of course I would love it if Ovie gave more English interviews by why should he have to, they do realize he’s Russian right?.
To be both fair and realistic, has Crosby done any French interviews?
"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."
by CapitalCentre on Feb 27, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Broken Record
To say that North American Media (and Canadian media, in particular) have been fair and reasonable towards Ovechkin (and Team Russia… there are other players on that team, not that the coverage would indicate such) in the course of the Games is absolutely farcical. Almost all “sideline/rink-side” reporting over the past 10 years in major sports is maniacally inane and stupid to begin with, but watching this Olympics has given me new respect for just how depraved and stupid this kind of reporting can be. Asking Ovechkin if Russia was “intimidated” (a word that has been tossed around FAR too much for any reasonable, dignified media outlet) playing Canada in the quarterfinals wasn’t any sort of journalistic tactic for information gathering of any kind; it seemed much more like an extension of Canadian “hockey talking heads” and their glee in finally beating Russia when it mattered (heck, if Canada wins gold they will only be 5 gold medals behind Russia in the modern era [since 1956]! What intimidation!).
Ovechkin, all of 24 years of age, might have appeared terse, testy, and even downright unfriendly towards North American media outlets (ESPN has been pretty “hurt” by Ovechkin’s rudeness as well, recently). Based upon the limited bits that have made it to TV, most reasonable people would have been upset by the lines of questioning and over-reacted themselves or just walked away, even if they hadn’t just played in an all-important world-wide tournament and played well below their ability.
Combine inane (better word: STUPID) questioning with downright aggressive syntax (perhaps Ovechkin doesn’t understand the nuance in “intimidated”) and its reasonable to assume that ANY PERSON might react the way Ovechkin did. The fact that he has carried this malaise for days isn’t unusual either; consider the pressure of the Olympics and the consistent belittling nature of the comments directed toward him. Anyone that has dealt with TV media outlets also knows that camera-people are not worried about courtesy. I happen to consider getting shoved by a ticked-off, recently-post-game Ovechkin akin to getting run into on the sidelines in an NFL game; a consequence of being close to the action. Leave him alone already, Canada won, OK? 2010 Olympic quarterfinals goes to Canada… for all that that is worth.
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by CapitalDominion on Feb 27, 2010 12:36 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
A wonderful post that sums up my impressions and view of the media at these Games.
The latest incident seems to be with the Moscow based RIA Novosti.
Blood in the water, sharks circling. Ugh.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
What an embarrassingly stupid op-ed.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 27, 2010 9:20 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
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