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Nice PK and some good chances so far.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

These women are playing as physical as they are allowed. I love it.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:48 PM EST reply actions  

My position is that not letting them hit is a function of male paternalism and a desire to protect the women. I’d say that they should be allowed to hit, but that’s just the opposite; a man imposing his view of how they should play. Ultimately, my position is that the women should be allowed to decide to hit or not. What do the women here think? Should women’s hockey be hitting or no-hitting? And has anyone ever heard about a women’s hockey governing body discussing a rule change on these lines?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they should let them hit. It’s women on women, what’s the big deal?

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly, the frailty will be off-set by less violent collisions.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that its some measure of paternalism, and they should let them decide for themselves.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

100% agreed. It’s the same thing with women’s lacrosse – no contact. These aren’t girly girls, they can handle it.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by IRockTheRed on Feb 27, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty clear that the women in this game would like to be allowed to hit each other. Getting physical after the whistles.

"I broke my face," he said. "Ran into Brendan Shanahan. You can Google it."

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well what about you? I know you’re all for a good hit from behind but how do you feel about clean hitting?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

(F&B is surrounded by women…)

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Just how I like it.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

…women with no pants.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice :)

I think that if you’ve got women of similar skill levels in the game, I’d love to be able to hit. Women will sometimes yell at you for playing the body on defense or in front of the net, and I think that’s absolutely ridiculous. It’s still a contact sport. I learned how to take a hit and did checking drills, because that’s all part of hockey.

It’s hard with the limited reach of the game, though. I think you could implement checking in Division I college hockey, because I imagine there’s a pretty even skill level among schools. I don’t know for sure that’s true, though – I played club hockey, and there was a huge drop off from the “didn’t make the DI team” girls to the “I just started playing hockey” ones.

When I started playing, I wouldn’t have wanted checking to be part of what I had to deal with, since the skill set is so different from anything I’d done before. And that’s a fair wish, since kids’ hockey, when everyone is new to the game, doesn’t have checking. But women seem to come to the game at an older age on average, and there needs to be a mechanism for getting those women into the game too. I don’t want to scare of potential players because they’re worried about getting hit. As it is, that’s pretty much the first reaction people have to my playing hockey – “wow… I could never do that, it’s so violent.”

So I think it’s a complicated question, and I don’t know if it’s ever been considered, but I’m certainly not opposed. Sometimes, you really just want to hit a bitch.

"I broke my face," he said. "Ran into Brendan Shanahan. You can Google it."

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

love you for this
Sometimes, you really just want to hit a bitch.

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

:) I hadn’t thought about it in a while, but “hit a bitch” was a phrase we used a lot on my college team. I think it was started by our coach, who was this small middle-aged guy, pretty soft spoken most of the time, but would sometimes just bust out with phrases like that when we needed a boost.

"I broke my face," he said. "Ran into Brendan Shanahan. You can Google it."

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s sig-worthy.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Giving it a test-drive. I even censored myself so JP doesn’t yell at me.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

This is eerie. My sister, who is on her way to playoff games this weekend, said this when I talked to her today.

by reeselynn on Feb 25, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha. Awesome. Is she in college?

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

She is. Michigan State.

by reeselynn on Feb 25, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

It would have been awesome if she went to my school (University of Rochester) but this is a little eerie, my brother goes to Michigan State.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

That is such an awesome response, complete with amazing punctuation at the end. I really do appreciate your input. I have no sisters and haven’t spent much time around women’s hockey so I’m still getting a feel for what I think it should be. At the same time I’m preparing for the possibility that I’ll have daughters and then I’ll be following girls hockey for almost two decades so I’m trying to get familiar with the dynamics.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks and you’re welcome!

I may bring the question up with my team next week, because I’m now curious how other female players feel about it. I have never really had a discussion about checking in women’s hockey beyond, “no.” If I do, I will report back on their responses.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Hitting, but no hair pulling fights.

(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)

by oldemystix on Feb 25, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

oh yay, a thread!

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

Team Canada’s goaltender is crazy good.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Goalies coming up big tonight, so far

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

I spoke too soon. Booo

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

CANADA SCORES!!!!!!!!!!!

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

This may be the first time I ever yelled “fucking hell” during a women’s hockey game.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

LOL I was a little bit more PC since I’m at work

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

hahahahaha!!

wait a couple more years until it gets even more popular…

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

OT Announcement

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome…we can plan the game watch now!

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions  

So they just compared the chick that scored to a “female Sidney Crosby” and then said she always wears a strand of pearls. I really hope Crosby does too. haha

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 6:57 PM EST reply actions  

Every time they say pearl necklace, I cringe.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL. How can you make that mistake? I figured it was a staple of modern dirty parlance.

…especially in a women’s hockey game.

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Here they go again…

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Isn’t “female Sidney Crosby” redundant?

by CraigD on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

PP!

"He's the heartbeat of our team"

by HolyJumpin on Feb 25, 2010 6:59 PM EST reply actions  

POULIN SCORES AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Yuck, come on ladies.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

This is not looking good.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

Still talking about the “pearl necklace”

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:02 PM EST reply actions  

So basically, Canada has gone offsides at least twice and it hasn’t been called. awesome.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:04 PM EST reply actions  

Holy cow, Ruggiero. That was some nice work.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:06 PM EST reply actions  

end of period.

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 7:07 PM EST reply actions  

2-0 Can?

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

unfortunately, yes

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions  

At least the US is getting its chances. The two failed toe-drags made me facepalm though.

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by HolyJumpin on Feb 25, 2010 7:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I love when the girls scrum! I really wish they could hit each other.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:22 PM EST reply actions  

One thing I love about the womens’ games, the passing is great.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:23 PM EST reply actions  

5 on 3…let’s go girls!

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:27 PM EST reply actions  

Come on…. Let’s go girls.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:38 PM EST reply actions  

Good evening gals (and F&B)

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 7:43 PM EST reply actions  

Hey RB, you wearing your pearl necklace?

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Self-made

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I will add though..

….I am not wearing my Cosby Sweater

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cosby+sweater

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i wonder what a crosby sweater would look like?

Wait – I don’t want to know.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:48 PM EST up reply actions  

That. Is. Horrible.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been uber impressed with the USA PK

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:45 PM EST reply actions  

Totally. Wow.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I wanted to drop that comment in the first period, but didn’t feel like jinxing anything. haha

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t get a chance to ask my boss if I could leave early tomorrow to watch the US game… Hope he doesn’t get pissed.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

What time does it start?

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

3pm

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I get in at 7am, so it’s not like I’d be leaving THAT early.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Why so early again? I hate that! I mean there’s only 4 teams left! I get to work at 4pm, so I’ll be in transit for the first period. Booooooo

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

At the top of the 2nd period, HER 1, Toronto Marlies 1

Holtby in net.

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by EmilyB on Feb 25, 2010 8:02 PM EST reply actions  

I cannot tell you how excited I am for Saturday’s game! We are all going to be so obnoxious! haha

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

True dat. Woooooooo!

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by EmilyB on Feb 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m really sad I live further away from the bus pick-up than I do Hershey! The bus trip is going to be epic.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

From one Bryz fan to another

Did you read that great quote from Bryzgalov after the game last night Boutros?

"They came," said Russia goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov of the Canadian onslaught, "like gorillas coming out of a cage."

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

I’d love to hear it in his voice. That’s what makes him so special.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh Bryz, how I love thee….let me count the ways.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, I think we’ve learned, stop shooting at her glove.

"I broke my face," he said. "Ran into Brendan Shanahan. You can Google it."

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

Szabados is scary good.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:10 PM EST reply actions  

She’s hot right now…hope she starts cooling down…like now.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Good reaction save there

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you think GMGM should sign Szabados as a rental for the stretch run? I would rather have her than Marty Turco.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy crap….the USA is just firing away at Szabados!

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

This is a terrific game.

by cuqui on Feb 25, 2010 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

Some amazing speed and skill. I love it.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

VETTER!

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

Wow Vetter. Holy shit.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Pierre nailed it “giving us her Hasek imitation” !

by cuqui on Feb 25, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions  

OT and I'll post on the exchange, too

Hey, if anyone’s looking for a single season ticket (41 games) in section 107, let me know. A friend of mine is selling.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:22 PM EST reply actions  

I sure hope the men’s gold medal game is played at the level this game has been contested.

by cuqui on Feb 25, 2010 8:25 PM EST reply actions  

me too

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a great fight.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Are we also hoping that it features the same countries?

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have no issue with that

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions  

These women block shots like nobody’s business.

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

It seems like they take a little longer to shoot, like it’s better telegraphed (one of the problems Jurcina had, for example). The passes out of the zone are absolutely awesome. Are the longer shifts normal for the women’s game, or is that a function of the depth the US is playing with?

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Let ‘em play, I suppose, seems fine enough, it’s pretty much settled.

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it sucks that the US will lose, but Szabados was amazing to watch. Canada should thank their lucky stars she was “on” tonight.

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

a great “rookie” for them

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by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If Miller wants to return the favor, I’d really appreciate it. =)

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Really good game.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Good job girls

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:33 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. There’s really no way you can be upset with how they played, and a silver medal is nothing to scoff at.

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Both teams played very well. Of course my cheering interests run more north than everyone else in here.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

i’m still here!
i’ve only been lurking for the last while though…

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey Missy..good to see you…..

I knew you posted up above. Didn’t know you were still here…my apologies

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 25, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s okay, i’ve been posting more at PPP and NM for most of the game.

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by missy on Feb 25, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Impossible. I was rooting for Santa.

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:36 PM EST up reply actions  

a silver medal is nothing to scoff at

Really? When only four teams in the tournament know how to play hockey and only two are good at it?

by Stormblue on Feb 25, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Really.

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I’m glad y’all showed up tonight. I think we all have a greater appreciation for womens hockey.

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 25, 2010 8:37 PM EST reply actions  

For sure. It was hard to watch some of those earlier games where it looked like the US was playing mites on ice

by terpgrrl on Feb 25, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s nice that the Canadian crowd is cheering the US players.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 8:55 PM EST reply actions  

Man, if that doesn’t hit the heartstrings.

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by winterion on Feb 25, 2010 8:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Especially the U-S-A chant. Wow.

Sometimes, you really just want to hit a b**ch.

by dinasaur on Feb 25, 2010 9:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That was all the Americans in the crowd…

Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.

by Rob Parker on Feb 25, 2010 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha, makes sense. I didn’t expect there to be that many Americans.

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