Monday Caps Clips: The Hit
by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 8:17 AM EST
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Your savory breakfast links:
- First there was "The Goal." Now, "The Hit." [SI, ESPN, The Star, Puck Daddy, Russian Hockey Fans, SBN, Homer McFanboy, 5ive Hole (with a NSFW Freudian typo for the ages), D.C. Landing Strip]
- Of course, that wasn't Alex Ovechkin's first big hit of the tournament. [RMNB]
- And Alex has ruffled some feathers by not talking (much) to the North American media. [Yahoo!, RMNB]
- In case you didn't stay up for the third game of the tripleheader, Sweden blanked Finland 3-0 thanks to Nicklas Backstrom's goal and two assists. [NHL.com]
- What you need to know about the rest of the tourney schedule: "The most likely semi-final matchups are the United States against Finland or the Czech Republic, and Canada or Russia against Sweden or Slovakia." In other words, all three pre-Olympic gold medal favorites are on one side of the bracket, and it ain't the side the U.S. is on. Sweet. [CTV]
- "On defence, the problem is foot speed. Apart from the pairing of Duncan Keith and young Drew Doughty, nothing much shines. Chris Pronger's slowness is becoming an issue." Wonder where they could've gotten a bit quicker on the back end. [CTV]
- AO is Freddy Krueger. [SI.com]
- The etymology of Ovechkin. [Alex Ovetjkin]
- Nice Ovi anecdote from @JeffMarek. [Puck Daddy]
- Winter Classic '11 rumor: Nationals Park. Meh. [HockeyJournal.com]
- The brief overview of what the Caps have in Hershey... [NHL.com]
- ... but there's no mention of Oskar Osala, which is fine, because this is world's better than the one-liner you'd have gotten anyway. [Corey Masisak]
- Mathieu Perreault and Francois Bouchard continue to be inseparable (other than, y'know, when one of them is in Washington). [TheAHL.com]
- Speaking of the Bears, they've now won an AHL-record 20 consecutive home games. [Patriot-News, John Walton Hockey, Ed Frankovic]
- A good send off for good folks. [Peerless]
- Finally, happy 35th birthday to Patrick Boileau, happy 39th to Jason Marshall, happy 45th to Joe Reekie, and happy 57th to Al Hangsleben.
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Kind of funny, but my thought was that the Canadians could have just used a little more scoring, period. But we came to the same results, they could have used Green. Other than holding pucks in along the half wall, I’m not sure I really saw a single Canadian defender jump into the offensive play. That is sad. You score a lot of points when shots are coming from where the goalie isn’t expecting anyone to be.
Pronger was on ice for four goals against.
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Pronger as Statue
Yes, and while he was cross-checking along the boards, another US player would come and get the puck away.
Where do you all go for proper stats?
Yep. He and Nash (who, incidentally, has a “gift” in his ability to run a goalie and make it look unintentional).
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I noticed that. How many goalies have been hurt this year after an encounter with Nash? My count stands at two.
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Which two? Cam Ward was a freak accident so you can’t really blame him. But he was all over Hiller, including totally cleaning him out once, and was at it again with Miller all night.
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Those two examples are what formed the basis of my comment.
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I kind of agree with your comment, just not the Ward one. I think he definitely didn’t try to avoid Hiller and had no problem making that contact heavy. I just think the Ward one was an absolute freak accident. The way he’s been in the Olympics looks more intentional for sure.
(Chris Burton, does Nash have a reputation for running goalies in the division? You see him more than us.)
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Nash
Is just a grade-A pain in the ass in general.
I think he’s gotten called numerous times for goalie interference, such as smearing his ass in their face, but I don’t distinctly remember him “running” one. He could have, though, I’ve watched so much over the last two years its just hard to place it all.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve seen a lot of the Columbus/Chicago matchups (since I live in Chicago), and I’ve never thought or seen him as a guy who is overly physical with the goalie.
If anything, he’s a big guy who doesn’t play close to the net enough.
Huge talent, though. If he was in Toronto or New York or nearly any city other than Columbus, he’d be one of the top 10 guys as far as popularity goes in the game.
Maybe he just has a thing against goalies with last names that end in “iller”.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Sounds like a Run-DMC rhyme in the makin’.
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Iller than Leather?
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
(To)day you won a ticket to see Bure
Front row seat (in free!) no pay
Radio in hand, snacks by feet
Game’s about to start, you kickin’ popcorn to the beat
You finally wake up, Pavel’s gone to town
Between his skates, into the net, then you scream “Touchdown!”
You be illin’
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Word
For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.
by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
This is a confused fuckin’ hockey fan.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
You *know* who taught Nash how to do that...
…his number 32 is hanging up at the Phone Booth. Hunter would do that all the time to folks like Hextall, Billy Smith, etc. but back then they played a little looser with the rules than they do now…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
But if you listened to Pierre Maguire this morning on XM Home Ice, he was completely blameless on all three goals. If there was ever any doubt as to the man-crush Maguire has for Crosby, this morning proved it. The Home Ice host (Mike Rossi) asked him about the USA win and immediately out of the blue, Maguire said that anybody who thought that Crosby was even remotely responsible knows nothing about hockey. Pretty amazing stuff.
Brodeur is who they need to be grilling over that game. His play with the puck was laughable.
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You mean baseball-batting a puck out of the air straight to an opposing player is a bad idea?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
“Was that wrong? Should I not have done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing, because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing is frowned upon…”
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, like playing the puck off the boards so high and at such a goofy angle that it just drops in front of you or trying so hard to draw an interference penalty that you just forget to stop shots.
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And the irony is that the “experts” were proclaiming before the tournament started that not having the trapazoid would be a huge benefit to Team Canada because of Brodeur’s stickhandling ability.
I personally hate it when a goalie on my team wanders out of the crease. Sure, you’ll get the occasional goalie assist, but you’re also going to get a big helping of scramble-failure goals.
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I remember Halpern for the Caps – was it during the playoffs? – watching Roy do clear-out whacks from behind the net too many times in a row. He started intercepting the puck at the blue line and shooting it straight on net. Twice Roy had to do a flying flailing flop to get back in front to cover it.
Then the last time Roy tried it Halpern was pummeled by at least two guys. Really I thought Roy should have been pummeled by his own teammates for continuing to make that same play even after Halpern started making him pay
It’s quite odd to see a goalie playing the puck on the half wall when he already has his defensemen in the zone. The man certainly likes to roam.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
Part of it, but I think there’s more to the story. Team USA thrives by getting a fast and heavy forecheck. Brodeur saw that their D were having some problems (even/especially Nieds and Pronger) with it (even against SUI) and was trying to move the puck before USA ever got their forecheck set up. Sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn’t. Last night was not a good night for him, but how often does that guy stink for more than one in a row? Canada is going to come back with a fury.
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It would be interesting if they gave Luongo the game vs. Germany.
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In the specific play I’m thinking of, Brodeur intercepted the puck on the half wall and threw it back around the corner where a defenseman, who was deeper in the zone, played the puck. That doesn’t seem like the best strategy to beat an aggressive forecheck to me. Although, this was the third period. U.S. may have relaxed their forecheck a little if they were up by a goal at that point. I wish I could remember exactly when it occurred.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t recall the play. I’m just speculating, maybe it had nothing to do with the forecheck and had to do with Brodeur just being free to play the puck now.
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It’s definitely a good point to make though. It makes sense to stifle an aggressive forecheck before it can be established. In my example, nothing noteworthy came from the play, so it’s not worth over-analyzing. I just thought it was interesting.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
But you know, I don’t really remember him playing it in the corner behind the line. I tried to pay attention to that, but caught up in the game and forgot about it at times. Usually when I was trying to notice where he was playing the puck, he’d try and stop it before the goal line, as if the trapezoid was still there. I could be wrong, wouldn’t be the first time.
Sorry, but I agree with Pierre. Sid looked pretty good yesterday. Not his fault Canada’s defense and goaltending were subpar.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m not saying Maguire was wrong in what he said. I just found it amazing that before he even started talking about the game, he felt the need to make a stirring defense of Crosby when his name hadn’t even been mentioned.
Always got to take care of the Golden Child. Sid actually lives up to the name. His play is golden and he still lives in someone else’s house.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
they say that Caps fans are sensitive about our star (with reason) but man, without being prompted the pundits are talking up Crosby or are throwing out commentary on Sid vs Ovi.
Was anyone else shocked to hear Milbury and Roenick do a complete 180 on who they thought was better and who they’d take if they were a GM (again) during the Russia-Czech game?
Had to be scripted. They said the exact opposite thing earlier. That was NBC trying to make peace.
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maybe JR read off the wrong teleprompter, forcing Milbury to read Roenick’s part
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by renstar on Feb 22, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Had to be scripted. They said the exact opposite thing earlier. That was NBC trying tomake peacedo damage control.
Fixed.
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They'll have to try harder.
Once I got over the surprise of the JR/MMoron role-reversal, i noticed this: JR praised crosby as a hockey player and talked about his “complete game”; MM hailed Ovechkin as a showman and said he “sells tickets”. So, it’s the Russian if you’re seduced by sizzle, and the Golden Child if you know your steak…
by redlineblue on Feb 22, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Crosby certainly isn’t to be blamed for the loss. If any single Canadian player is to blame it’s Brodeur. But Crosby was also very conspicuous on at least two goals by the US – he tipped in the first one and a dumb decision to try and stop a point shot and he completely failed to clear the puck on Drury’s goal when Brodeur was flopping around. He had a chance to get the puck out of harms way but instead did the same thing Brodeur did – flop around ineffectively allowing Drury the empty net goal. So it’s not like Crosby didn’t do anything to earn his -3.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
*on a dumb decision
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Blame...
Blame Yzerman and Babcock. They put this team together. Its an All-Star team, not a tournament team. Where are the grinders? Where are the role players? Where are the energy guys?
I questioned Burke’s selection of a couple of players, Drury for one, but I get it now. Didn’t hear this quote until yesterday, “If you’re a top 6 guy and you aren’t a top 6 on this team, you didn’t make it”, great stuff. Everyone needs a role. Drury had a great game on Sunday. So did Backes, Callahan, Rafalski and of course Miller.
This US team certainly isn’t the most talented but it is built like a real team as opposed to a exhibition All-Star weekend who’s who team. There was no way the US could match several teams talent for talent but by understanding that Burke and Wilson ended up with a better product.
Kudos to Burke and Wilson for getting it.
You can’t blame Yzerman, and not really Babcock. They weren’t on the ice. They didn’t cough the puck up. Canada is the most talented team. Yzerman didn’t make it a bad team. They just haven’t played up to their capability; Nieds and Pronger look nervous with the puck. You can blame Babcock for a few things, Morrow getting 6 minutes on average, for one, but CAN wins that game if Miller doesn’t play an amazing game (and/or Brodeur doesn’t have an off night). CAN still outplayed the USA for most of the game, we just fought for the win.
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You don’t think if the Canadians get bounced by the Russians, a very conceivable outcome, there wont be plenty of questioning of the choices Babcock and Yzerman made when considering the makeup of this team?
Boyle, Pronger, Niedermayer, Bergeron, Seabrook…
Especially if the US team wins. There most certainly will be fingers pointed at them. Too many chefs not enough cooks. Where are the role players?
Players will be blamed for sure, but Yzerman and Babcock will both be put under a microscope if Canada doesn’t win gold.
Of course there will be questioning, but the ultimate blame will be on the guys that did play, IMO. I’ll laugh my ass off and make snide remarks about Green’s snub forever (if they don’t win gold) but at the same time if they lose it’s not because Green is that much better. Nobody they left off is that much better than who they took. On paper, the squad they have wins, that’s all I’m saying. I don’t even think Yzerman had much of a job to do. You could put a list of 20 F, 10 D, and a small handful of choices for 3G and then picked the team out of a hat and it would have been the gold medal favorite.
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I’m not so sure about that. You add St. Louis, Stamkos, and Green to the roster and you gain a fair amount of speed which they seem to be lacking. Plus, Marty & Greener on the PP would definitely help. Heck, forget Green, just give me Jay Bow and they’d improve that blueline.
I agree that even as currently constructed that is one hell of a team. They just need to shore up their defensive play and work out some PP kinks. Luongo will take care of the goalie situation.
I still think that Canada vs Russia game could go either way. If anything, I might say Canada has the slight edge. However, to get to the gold medal game they’d most likely have to beat Russia and Sweden. Someone I know today compared Canada’s bracket to a World Cup soccer group of death. I think that is spot on.
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Well they almost doubled our shot total, their forwards weren’t the problem. But let’s go with your suggestion and add St. Louis and Stamkos. They get speed, but they lose Staal and Morrow (or pick any other 2 Fs). They get significantly smaller. Then if the US uses their “size” instead of their “speed” to beat Canada people are saying they took a small team that wasn’t tough enough. The fact is they have 12 all-world forwards and Eric Staal. It’s a pretty damn good corps. You could add J-Bo or Green, but the step up isn’t what would have solved the US game. Pronger and Nieds were two of the worst non-Boyle D, but there was no way either would have been cut.
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I thought their forwards could have been better in the 2nd period. I thought the US got back on defense several times during the game in situations against speedy wings they would have been in more trouble. However, you are right, the main issues were defense and goaltending.
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I'm wondering
If instead of adding St. Louis and Stamkos, they add Jeff Carter and Shane Doan…
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
I would have taken Carter over Staal, but is he really that much of an upgrade? If Brendan Morrow is getting 6 minutes a night, what exactly is Doan going to do differently?
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"If you’re a top 6 guy and you aren’t a top 6 on this team, you didn’t make it"
That’s a nice line, but it’s bullshit. Burke was not thinking that when he picked the team. Aside from taking Drury for veteran leadership and Callahan for energy over Okposo or Oshie he picked the most talented American forwards he had available, he didn’t pick to fill specific roles. Almost everyone on that team is a legit top 6 forward in the NHL, and by definition they are not all top 6 on Team USA.
The American forwards may be closer to grinders than are the Canadian forwards but that’s just because of the difference in the talent pool to select from, not the selection process. Burke picked from a bunch of second line scorers while Yzerman picked from a bunch of first line scorers. If Callahan and Drury are Canadian and Burke is running the Canadian team you can bet your balls they aren’t even close to being in the conversation for the Olympic roster.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 10:20 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I totally agree. Our roster is this way out of necessity, not because we were consciously leaving skilled players off because they didn’t fit a role (to a certain extent of course).
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 11:06 PM EST up reply actions
Well, Maguire is right and wrong…
First of all, he’s right that Crosby wasn’t directly responsible in a whoops-I-got-beat-on-that-one way on any of the U.S. goals last night. And that deflection into the Canadian net 41 seconds wasn’t a major league gaffe either. (Though it did make me laugh, hard.)
But if you take a look at the overall picture, it does puncture that whole “most complete player in the game” Barbara Streisand.
Crosby is now a 1 for the tournament and has never posted great +/ figures. Now correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t centers supposed to be more defensively responsible than wingers?
And isn’t funny how the Canadian media has taken to trashing just about every player Crosby plays with now? Watching to NHL Now or whatever that 5 pm show on NHL Network is during the snow days, you would have thought that Bill Guerin and Chris Kunitz were the worst wingers to ever skate on an NHL Top Line. Now the rest of Team Canada, a country so deep they could ice a “B” Team that would also be a favorite to win the gold, are just a bunch of ham and eggers too?
Please…
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And that deflection into the Canadian net 41 seconds wasn’t a major league gaffe either
I disagree. Where Crosby was, there was no reason at all he should have been trying to block that puck. If he’s lifting a stick or clearing a screen, it is a good play. If he crouches and puts his stick out hoping to block the shot 8 feet in front of Marty, all he’s doing it asking for a deflection and an own-goal.
Crosby wasn’t the problem for the Canucks yesterday, but that was a big mistake by him.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
by Sct112 on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well, we may have to agree to disagree on that one and I don’t take a backseat in Crosby-hate either…
But as they pointed out on the telecast, the whole Team Canada D overcomitted on that play and when the puck went back to Rafalski, he had all day to wind up and unload. Crosby kinda got caught in no-man’s land trying to get back because the whole unit brokedown on that play.
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Yeah, there was a team breakdown, but it’s a Cardinal sin to try to tip a puck from the slot. You either need to get right on top of the shooter and deflect it out of play, block it completely with your leg/skate/body, or get the hell out of the way. Waiving your stick at the puck can only end badly.
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As they pointed out on the telecast, the whole team overcommitted on that play which is why Rafalski had all kinds of time to wind up and unload that shot. Crosby, like everybody else, was scrambling to get back into position.
I don’t take a backseat in Crosby-hate but I have a hard time saying that was his fault when the whole unit brokedown on the play.
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With an own goal!
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I took delight in that. I still remember all that petulant mockery coming from Crosby’s lips when he relished on Backstrom’s own goal during that playoff push 2 years ago.
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by Christoph J on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Look — Backstrom “scored” with 10 seconds left in a tie game. You wouldn’t be happy? And it wasn’t petulant mockery — it was happiness. His team just won a big game.
I wouldn’t mock an opposing player about it. And if you were a Caps fan (what kind of fan are you, anyway, and what is your purpose?), wouldn’t you have been pissed about it? Seems like turnabout is fair play when he scores an own goal in an Olympic game. In hindsight that “big game” that his team won was ultimately meaningless. Both teams made the playoffs and it had no impact on seeding.
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There is a huge difference between those two own goals. One was a deflection of a shot from the point and the other was put into the net from 2 feet away.
And I’m a Maple Leafs fan who lives in Chicago but who went to college in Pittsburgh during their two cups in the early 90s. I tend to post here because it’s the most active site on SBN, and if you weed through some of the ridiculous homerism in the comments, you can find a lot of really smart, knowledgeable fans.
interesting
I tend to find less homerism here than almost anywhere. Just 0.02, though.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I guess you can count me in amongst the .02 crowd based on my comment above. I slipped.
You wouldn’t be happy? And it wasn’t petulant mockery — it was happiness.
Maybe it wasn’t petulant and/or mockery to some ears, maybe it was to others. However, from a subjective standpoint the taking-delight-in-the-misfortune-of-one’s-opponent act certainly rubbed me the wrong way.
With that said, I have no problem defending Crosby’s merits, talent, skills and accomplishments as a hockey player … especially to fellow Caps’ fans that ignorantly refuse to give him credit or play the same old tired schtick when criticizing him without any real arguments.
"Where can you go from there? Where? ... Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is, if we need that extra push over the cliff, you know what we do?"
I’m hopeful that with the Olympics out of the way, Wilson will have better luck with the Leafs.
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There is a huge difference between those two own goals.
One was in the Olympics and one was in the regular season. How it happened is irrelevant. Both were massive brain farts. You can want to believe Backstrom’s was worse because it looked intentional and gave you flashbacks of Brian McCabe, but Crosby’s decision to go for that puck was atrocious. The optics make it look more of a fluke, but what the hell was he thinking?
No reason to hide your allegiance, it just makes you look more suspect. If you’re going to call us ridiculous homers, cite to something. No need to site to the smart hockey talk, we know we have that in spades.
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may be opening a can of works here
But who do Caps fans feel (in a gist) is better defensively, Ovechkin or Crosby?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think either is that great defensively; both are adequate. Picking one over the other implies that either is more than average. Sidney wins face offs, so I guess that is a defensive skill, and he plays C so he gets to show off his work down low more, but AO is one of the most underrated defenders in the league (not because he’s great, but because the perception is he sucks). Anyone that watched RUS/CZE saw him out there for the final shift protecting a one goal lead, and then he beat two men to clear the puck leading to the ENG. He’s adequate for what he’s supposed to do, which is cover the point and get the puck out, but he’s not a game changer defensively.
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Given the different positions the two play and the different systems in which they play, I think it’s impossible to make any meaningful comparison in their respective defensive abilities.
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Neither is really anything special defensively…. most of the defending they do is by keeping control of the puck… if they have it in the attack zone, the opponent isn’t scoring.
Let’s put it this way, neither will be winning the Selke Trophy in their careers. The most likely player on the Caps to win something like that would be Backstrom, if he can get his face off percentage up a bit…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I gotta look at Brooks Laich for that, too, though he’d probably need more PK time to be considered.
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Totally disagree on Laich’s defensive abilities. Very overrated part of his game, IMO.
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And even if he gets his D up, he won’t score enough to compete with Richards and Datsyuk and those kind of players.
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And because he’s primarily a winger and those guys don’t win Selkes any more.
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Laich on D is not bad, he works hard which is most of what it takes to play good defense, but he’s never going to be an elite defensive player. Backstrom, Steckel, Laing, Knuble, Bradley and BMo are all much better.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Semin (when engaged) and Flash (at times) are also better defensive players. And don’t forget Gordo.
In other words, yeah, Laich’s probably an average defensive forward on this team… not the type likely to get much Selke attention.
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by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
I don’ think Brooksie is strong enough on either side of the puck to be considered, personally.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Now if the Selke was awarded for general awesomeness on and off the ice, then I’d be on board.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Brooks is...
…an above average offensive threat, and an average defensive player with a great work ethic who leads by example. He is a great team player…
He’s Randy Burridge without knees made out of glass…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Agree. Speaking of defense, was reminded again yesterday why Pavel Datsyuk wins Selkes. His game-long harassment of Jagr was a thing of beauty.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know but laying out a massive hit that leads to a turnover that results in the winning goal seems like a pretty good defensive play to me.
One hit or play doesn’t make him a great defensive player… Ovechkin will never be the best defensive forward on his team as long as Backstrom (and Bradley, Knuble, Morrison, Steckel, Laing, etc.) are on the same team.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Laing? No sir, I can’t agree. I love his heart and toughness, but he can’t skate. There’s simply no scenario where Laing is a better option than AO. Not even if you ignore offensive output.
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Hardwork != Good Defense
I don’t understand where the correlation between a grinding type forward and a good defender came from but it simply isn’t a valid one. Laich, Knuble, Laing are all grinders, but none of them are great defensive forwards.
we're not gonna allow someone like Downie to go after him.
Pronger and Niedermayer looked old and slow out there and Boyle was non-existent. In an uptempo game like yesterday’s was, you can’t tell me that Mike Green wouldn’t have been un upgrade over what Canada put out on the ice. I have no symapthy for Canada. They picked this defense as much on reputation and familiarity as they did on skill and now they’re paying the price.
Niedermayer has looked like shit through the whole tournament. I don’t want him as a rental.
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That might be too far. I don’t want to pay top dollar for him (which is the only way he moves) but he’d still be an upgrade and the chance for him to tutor Mike Green would be invaluable. Fedorov looked like shit for like 3 years before we picked him up and that worked out ok. Even if he isn’t Conn Smythe Nieds he’s still better than whoever else we have in our top 4 right now.
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For the price we’d have to pay, I’d want Conn Smythe Nieds.
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I agree. But at only 2 points out I don’t think they are sellers. They’ll make it as a 6-8 seed and make life hell for one of the top seeds.
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Yeah. Plus Niedermayer said he didn’t want to move at one point..
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And they’ve got Hiller. Not out of contention just yet.
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I agree. But at only 2 points out I don’t think they are sellers. They’ll make it as a 6-8 seed and Jonas Hiller will make life hell for one of the top seeds.
Clarified.
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The Ducks should be better, and they’re built like a playoff team… not only will they make the opening round a bear for some team, they might win like they did last year…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
so this
Nieds, and especially Boyle, both look like they put on a huge show in the regs to get their consideration, and now they look like they’re just happy to be there. Ditto Joe Thronton, who was a cipher again last night.
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by bigonetimer on Feb 22, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t going to say that yet – there’s still a lot of hockey left to be played and I wouldn’t put it past Canada to pull a reverse and do to us what we did to them in the WJC. I’m not counting my chickens yet.
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They gotta get past Russia first. That’s going to be a hell of a game.
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They’d actually have to get past both Russia and the Swedes. I’m not sure that is going to happen. I can’t believe more people in the media aren’t talking about the Swedes. You know the guys who are the defending champs.
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It blew my mind when Roenick picked Finland to win the game last night. I’m officially calling a Sweden/US final.
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I think you may be right. If that happens my head and my heart will be saying opposing things.
I’m happy to eat some crow on this US team. I thought they wouldn’t be good enough to medal until Sochi. However, as I suspected this team’s fortunes depend a ton on MIller.
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I knew they’d probably sneak in for at least a bronze. Too many badasses like Brown, Backes and Callahan to be denied.
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It takes more than talent to win a tournament like this. The US showed last night they’re willing to bring it, work hard every time their skates hit the ice, and sacrifice themselves to win. And that’s not just one or two guys, it’s a to-a-man commitment.
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If the USA wins the Gold, how are they ever going to get Ron Wilson’s head into the Air Canada Centre?
Show him tape of the Maple Leafs.
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by gotsparkly on Feb 22, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bring back Vesa Toskala. He couldn’t stop anything even that big.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s not like Ron hasn’t won a big international ice hockey tourney before.
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Exactly and Ron kept reminding us about that for almost a decade. If USA wins, Wilson will go from being the smartest guy in the room to the smartest guy in the universe.
Burke’s head won’t be getting smaller either. I wonder how the province of Ontario is taking getting beat by Leafs mgmt team. I’m guessing less than well.
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Same here. Just saying neither of those guys have small egos. I actually love it. They are perfect guys to lead a young team with mucho truculence.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
If Canada wins out the rest of the way this loss for them will be considered as much an aberration as the US win.
But if they don’t, they’re a step behind the US (Burke) in the youth movement in tournament play.
Sweden has everyone right where they want them — looking the other way.
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The Swedes need to get past Slovakia, too. Slovakia’s not that bad and Halak can be crazy good on any given night. Nothing’s assured except that if Canada and Russia meet in the quarterfinal, my couch has four confirmed occupants (me and three furballs).
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But SWE is playing the best hockey of anyone, from what I’ve seen. I missed most of last night but SWE has what it takes to win this tournament. Great goalie, great special teams, great defensively, and a lot of offensive depth. They haven’t hung 8 on anyone but they are persistent and are going to get their goals. And Nick Backstrom has been their best skater. Love it.
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I thought FIN was better and Swedish media was darkly hinting that they think FIN tanked on purpose last night (for seeding purposes).
Not sure I buy it but there you have it – it’s what’s being said.
Also they have two players (Pahlsson is one) out with a bad stomach flu and they are hopeful it doesn’t sweep thru the team.
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To clarify, I thought FIN was better heading into the game last night. They were clearly outplayed by SWE in the actual game, from the very first faceoff.
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Why would FIN tank for seeding? Just to get out of the RUS/SWE group?
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I thought it was odd that they played Kiprusoff, when Backstrom has a 5-0 shutout in the previous game.
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But if Finland had won in regulation, they’d have been out of the Russia/Sweden group.
Tanking would make zero sense.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:18 PM EST up reply actions
If FIN won in regulation they wouldn’t have been 2 seed? And then it would have been the RUS/CAN/FIN half-bracket, right?
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No, they would’ve been 1. They would’ve beaten us on goal differential (even if they had won the game by 1 goal)
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, and then we’d be in the other group, which would suck.
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Yeah, exactly. Every single result yesterday went perfectly for the U.S.
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely, but so is the attention. I’m also still concerned about our defensive breakdowns. Miller has been bailing us out big time. Hank has been real good, but I haven’t seen the same blatant breakdowns from SWE (except after they took the big lead on BEL).
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Shots were 45 CAN to USA 20 and change. Not a recipe for long-term success. Miller looked like he needed an I.V. after the game.
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I can’t remember who it was (maybe Milbury) who wrote off the Swedes as major contenders because they were too old. People don’t realize how well they’ve turned over the core of their roster with excellent young players like Backstrom, Eriksson, Kronwall and the Sedins. I think Sweden has easily looked the best out of the big three teams.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
From NYTimes Slap Shot blog today
Chris Pronger did not look like a world-class defenseman for Canada. He seemed slow, he had trouble advancing the puck and he did not impose himself physically on the game, which is his strongest asset.
I have a C on my heart.
Chris Pronger did not look like a world-class defenseman for Canada. He seemed slow, he had trouble advancing the puck and he did not impose his elbowshimself physicallyon the game, which is his strongest asset.
Fixed.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Chris Pronger did not look like a world-class defenseman for Canad
Not to mention he had two seconds to avoid the Staal-Perry pileup, but somehow managed to still be a part of it.
Maybe he had a brain fart and thought they jumped on each other because they scored a goal and he wanted in on the action.
Doughty has been the best Dman for Canada, IMO, and the only one that has pinched in the offensive zone effectively to create offense. Weber has also been quietly very good for Canada. He’s just been playing a smart, solid game and not getting caught out of position in either zone.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Keith has been adequate but I expected more from him. Pronger and Nieds look old, great signs for the playoffs. Boyle is a mess, and Seabrook has been basically invisible. Invisible might normally be good, but not on Team Canada. They have 20 impact players and too many of them aren’t making the right kind of impact.
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I’m sure an extra game against Germany will be wonderful for Proger and Nieds, though.
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It probably will. GER doesn’t even try to forecheck, maybe they won’t be pressured into mistakes this time. I just wish GER would take it to them more physically.
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You hear JR take Germany to task for playing the trap after they lost to Finland? You would have loved it.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Ha. No, I’m having a hard enough time keeping domestic peace watching all the actual games, there would be serious problems if I tried to watch a NOR/GER post game analysis.
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It was actually during one of the intermissions of one of the late night games (RUS-SLO maybe). He ripped Germany for not scoring any goals in 2 games because they sit back and play boring hockey and said they need to be more aggressive because what they were doing clearly wasn’t working.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Keith and Seabrook struggled getting the puck up the ice in the face of the US forecheck way more than I expected last night. Normally they are great at getting the puck up and out of the zone (Keith especially), but it looked like the US forecheck had them flustered at times. They haven’t been bad, but I agree that they haven’t met the expectations of the Norris front runner and his partner.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, I expected Keith to be a total stud, and Seabrook to be great in his own end and show off some of that nice chemistry. Turns out chemistry isn’t enough for CAN to win this.
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If Canada goes down to the Russians, maybe the Canadian media will take Keith off that pedestal and give someone else (a difference maker who’s not on the team) a shot at the Norris.
You gotta admit, though, the USA’s forecheck is awesome.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
They were certainly gung-ho and hard working, but there were long periods in the game where they just couldn’t establish any meaningful zone time.
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sure
But the forecheck and having consistent possession are two different things.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ain’t worth much if it doesn’t lead to possession.
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maybe not
But there’s a lot of value in giving them hell trying to exit the defensive zone.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
If it prevents the other team from getting a clean breakout and being able to come through the neutral zone with speed it’s worth a lot.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 4:47 PM EST up reply actions
It is awesome when they establish it. There were long stretches last night where they seemingly abandoned it last night when Canada had the ice tilted, but just when they needed to, got it going again.
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(or what Jordan said)
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
I’m glad the USA won but a secret part of me was terrified that if Canada lost, they would throw a hissy fit and cut off our supply of Molson Ice and Celine Dion cd’s.
This morning when Wal-Mart opened I rushed to the music section and was delighted to see that copies of the Titanic Soundtrack were still available.
I can now proceed with my day as usual.
by Brainumbc on Feb 22, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Uh...
…hate to pop your bubble, but they send Celine Dion to the USA because they don’t like her. Did you check to make sure they still had Rush CDs?
As for Molson, the best from that brewery stays in Canada, their second rate stuff is sent to the USA… still it is better than most American swill that passes for “beer”…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Your Celine observation may be true outside of Quebec, but it’s definitely not true there.
I think Molson is alright (and I’ve had it inside Canada), but I have yet to have any Canadian beer that I thought was outstanding. Their macrobrews are better than ours, granted, but that’s just a small part of the picture.
And Boyle has been pretty much a disaster. He wasn’t even on the top PP unit by the end. Part of the rationale was that he had PP chemistry with HTML but with 5 minutes left the first PP unit was HTML and Doughty/Weber. I love it.
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From Farber's SI story on the Hit
Now Jagr, the 38-year-old Czech star, the best right wing in the world for virtually two decades, is not an easy fellow to knock down. He stands 6-foot-2. His weight is listed at 240 pounds. Of those 240, roughly 169 pounds are in his butt. He has a truly Kardashian booty, part of his colossal set of hockey haunches that set him apart from the rest of the hockey world.
“Kardashian booty.” Hahaha
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I saw that. That entire paragraph read like an ode to Jaromir Jagr’s keister, which is among the stranger things I’ve ever read.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Farber has a thing for hockey haunches. Particularly Sid’s.
It’s a little disturbing, frankly.
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If it exists...
Atta dinnin stick a who!
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Not like any of us have ever doubted what an ass Jagr is.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
That hit is thus far the highlight of the Olympics for me. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Jagr go down quite like that.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 7:34 AM EST reply actions
AND MY GOD, NICKY IS SO COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!
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I just did a quick survey of Swedish media (and maybe Ice Warrior will have more):
1. Lots of Backis love all of a sudden, I wonder why.
2. Potential worry: Tre Kronor has two players down with a stomach flu, let’s hope it stops at two
3. The more you know: Patric Hornqvist will be okay after taking a puck last night to the “crown jewels”. Good man.
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Makes me a little nervous – he’s still not signed yet for next year, you know.
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If reports are to be believed, an extension may already be a done deal that they’re waiting until after the Games to announce. But I agree that I’d like to see it done done, and he ain’t gettin’ any cheaper…
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Agent: Just go out and keep playing. You’ve just added a half a million per year this week.
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Word. Whose reports are those, if I can ask? If this Eklund-reporting or Bob McKenzie-reporting we’re talking about here?
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There were a couple of Swedish reports (Aftonbladet among them) that the sides were close and that it would be announced after the break. Don’t know how close (it didn’t sound too close), but you never know.
Oh, and for future reference, I will never ever intimate that Eklund should perhaps be believed.
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The story is...
…that the dollar figures are agreed upon, it’s just that the Caps want to keep Nick here until 2021 like a certain left wing…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:07 AM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t worry. Besides, the last marquee Caps player to leave for European play is still picking himself up from the faceoff circle.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Brandon Sugden?
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Nice.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
No, he’s got to go back to January to find it.
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by EmilyB on Feb 22, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Joel Kwiatkowski? I thought the IIHF said he was ineligible for the Olympics?
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
wtf
Horny got hit there?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions
oh
It says in the “face”. I don’t think of face when someone says crown jewels.
Just sayin’.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions
Me neither, if it helps. I was picturing something else.
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glad it wasn't there
Nonetheless, I didn’t know he was hurt cause I didn’t stay up for it. Gotta get the scoop on this…
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions
did
Anyone see the hit? Was it pretty vicious?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
Yup. Elbow to the face. It was bad. The good part was the officials saw it. % minute major and game misconduct. The Swedes didn’t score on the PP, but it killed the Finna ability to get back in the game I thought.
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According to YNC’s post yes. He looked decent when he got to the bench. Much better than others I’ve seen after such hits. My stab in the dark guess is he’s got a mild concussion.
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The guy who hit Patric is suspended for next game too.
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That is a big loss for the Finns. Their D turned the puck over a ton last night against the Swedes. Czechs will have an easier time with Joni in street clothes.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
He probably learned that from the Ruutu brothers…one plays for Carolina, the other (the dirtier one) plays for Ottawa.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
Tuomo was the rare Fin who looked good last night.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Dmitry Chesnokov reports that Canes Country booed Hornqvist as he left the ice.
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wait, seriously?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
Hahahaha. No, probably not, though I didn’t check to make sure.
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Should’ve detected the snark, but you used Chesnokov instead of someone more known for sarcasm, so I double-took. Nah, they felt bad for Horny, I just checked. See bottom for animated gif.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Chesnokov is a running joke around here because of some of the “news” he’s broken. I recall the news that AO might miss “4-5 weeks” with his chest injury earlier in the year.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Right, we snark about him not conveying AO’s snark. The rule of thumb I follow around here is: when in doubt, assume it’s snark.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Pitkanen elbowed him in the face. It wasn’t clean
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
You doing ok today Manscot? Rough weekend for you folks up North.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah I am fine. Actually I thought it was a great game, entertaining as hell. Really liked watching the US style of play—some great grit on the team. My favourite Canadian play all game was seeing Crosby inadvertently high stick Orpik. Since I am not a Pens fan at all—it was a great laugh.
My brother lives on Vancouver Island and got to attend all the Saturday and Sunday games, the lucky bastard. He called me at 2 am EST last night as Sweden-Finland was playing to say he was behind the Swedish bench. I saw him 4-5 times during the game. He even met Joe Sakic who was seated down from him. Says it was a great atmosphere all weekend
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
A Horny Update
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
Patrick Boileau joins John Vanbiesbrouck in the club of players i know with all five vowels in their last name
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → b a (select) start
“Boy-low”, I think.
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by snakegriffin on Feb 22, 2010 7:52 AM EST up reply actions
Yep. This is how I recall it being pronounced.
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Much deserved congrats to the Bears for the record, and to Helmer for tying the career assists record for defensemen in the A.
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That’s Crash Davis applauding in the background…
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 22, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
Wait, wasn’t that Hornqvist?
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 22, 2010 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
Canada vs Russia in quarterfinal
I wish to see that in final. Her Majesty Destiny played a nice joke here.
The weight of the world is on Canada now. To lose in quarterfinal before the home fans for the second straight time to the same team. I don’t want to be Canadian after loss to Russia (if they lose, of course).
And the tired and wounded winner of this duel will meet Sweden in semis. My bad!
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
Not really loving the way these seedings are falling out, mostly because I wanted to see the medal games to feature US/Russia/Canada/Sweden.
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I think it looks great.
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I agree that’s what I expected, but I’m pleasantly surprised by how things are shaping up.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 22, 2010 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Before this tournament, how many people honestly said of Team USA, “man, I really can’t wait to see that Rafalski guy tear it up!”
I have a C on my heart.
I don’t get why so many people are baffled by his play. He’s super.
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by jordanDC on Feb 22, 2010 8:46 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Btw, thanks for everyone who stopped by those WaPo chats yesterday. Personally, I hate the Cover It Live platform and some of the commenters there made my eyes bleed… but thanks for the support from those of you who joined in.
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Some of us tried but got frozen during the chat. I managed to get a couple of remarks in before the game actually got going, but when things picked up, my little computer couldn’t keep up. Sorry about that JP.
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No worries. Like I said, CiL bites… but it sure does make you appreciate what we’ve got here at SBN, no?
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Would have liked to, but Bailey’s was a good party. You guys missed out – for the Russia-Czech game, the room was half Russia supporters and half Czech supporters. HILARIOUS. Then the Czechs turned around and supported the US during the US-Canada game. We did have a couple of Canadians in the room, though.
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Wish I could have seen the game. Oh well, damn glad they won. Would not have guessed they would be #1 seed.
And where’s the Monday OTOT?
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2010 8:15 AM EST reply actions
Dammit! I forget. Thanks for the reminder.
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Danke.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2010 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
If this was “the Hit” then what do we call that blown hit on Malkin a couple years back? “The Oops”?
“the almost hit that Mike Green coasted in the way of causing Ovi to turn his body at the last second resulting in a glancing blow”
or maybe “the almost hit” for short.
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
From Malkin’s perspective: “The WHEW!”
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by jordanDC on Feb 22, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s a kind of weird karma for Russia and Canada.
They seem to have bad attraction to each other. First, it was Russia, who lost to Slovakia, but it was not enough. And, vois la, Sid and Co decided to make a surprise for everyone, including themselves. Neither team was looking for a short and easy trip to the semis, though they can escape each other.
If it was not for Marty, the greatest goalie, Canada would finish second and take Slovakia as a prize. While Russia would enjoy rematch with Czech.
Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
And I’m hoping that Russia will take care of Canada on Wednesday night. (Of course, I’m assuming that Canada beats Germany on Tuesday.)
But if the Russians need incentive, all they have to do is remember the World Junior Games of Dec 2004-Jan 2005. That was the one where the Canadians kept making runs at Ovi, with Ovi eventually getting injured by a Mike Richards hit. It kept Ovi out for several weeks. There were lots of internet pictures of Malkin comforting Ovi who looked so dejected. And Ovi with his arm in a sling. (BTW, Crosby was in that World Junior Games.)
So, okay Team Russia, time to avenge that game. It’s payback time.
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How come no site has an easy bracket set up for remaning games/match-ups?
I mean, I know we’re talking about them here, but shouldn’t NHL.com have something set up? Fail on their part.
There’s a good one over at Nucks Misconduct.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 22, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
For those too lazy to click...
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 8:36 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
wow
Quarterfinals are going to be ridiculous. SUI-USA, CZE-FIN, SWE-SVK and RUS-CAN all likely and all awesome.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
Canada better watch out for Germany, they can be…
Oh, who am I kidding… they didn’t score until they played Belarus…
There’s really no big upset going to happen in the qualification round. Maybe Belarus beats Switzerland, but you know that’s not a big upset…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions
They #needmoreKolzig
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All Olie could do is keep the score under control. He can’t score a …
No wait, in junior he did…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions
Switzerland isn’t a joke, as Canada found out the hard way.
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Yea.. they have huge hill..-er.. to climb!
Yea.. they have huge hill..-er.. to climb!waka waka waka
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Fact. If Canada had TCB in regulation, they’d have a bye right now.
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Anyone hearing a little Bachman Turner Overdrive there? (Yeah, I know, I’m old)
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You bet… another fine Canadian band…
Better check to see if their CDs are still available in the USA after last night too (see posing above about Celine Dion/Molson Ice/Rush…)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
See my overall comment below.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
It was the first thing that popped into my head. All of a sudden I felt all polyester all over.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
O got it (sorry for the shorthand).
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I also immediately googled TCB belt buckles.
How have the Lightning not made a TBL logo like this yet?
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…and then NOR found out…
I’m still not sure what to make of the SUI team, but they scare me at least a little. Team USA better not let down, and from this group I don’t expect it.
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I just hope GER plays physical as all hell. Make CAN hurt for their second game in consecutive nights against RUS.
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Talk about a favorable layout. The US is on the opposite side of the bracket from Canada, Sweden, and Russia. I don’t think you could have asked for a better path to the gold medal game. Even the dangerous Slovaks, who I thought were a bit underrated coming into this, are over on the other side of the tree.
Sweeeeeeeet.
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The Real American Hero preaches caution. Isn’t this a similar route to what the USA took to win the juniors. Losing heroically in the prelims for some back at ‘cha in the Finals? Glad we’ve earned a favorable draw, but hope Alex puts a defining moment in the Sid vs. Alex or even better a Canadian offensively challenged meltdown against Germany.
erskine has scored...now i can die in peace
Someone had a stat that historically, the eventual silver medalist has arrived at the finals undefeated, and the eventual gold medalist arrived at the finals with at least one loss.
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Not only that, but we know what happens if things get easy for a team. I’m totally not putting it past Canada to say “turnabout is fair play” and pull a WJC on the US.
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Yes, but USA lost to CAN by a shootout in the WJC. So it’s not exactly the same, therefore I’m not going to use that 100%. On the other hand, I’m not counting Canada out at all.
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This weekend OFB embarks on a roadtrip we’ve sought since our start — to Hershey… The party: Eric McErlain, founder of Off Wing Opinion; Corey Masisak and Michelle Scalise from Comcast Sportsnet; and Jon Press, founder of Japer’s Rink.
How was the trip J.P.? Seems like there’s been a lot of interaction between blogs lately. Japers’ and OFB, Japers’ and CI. Now we just need Japers’ and PPP.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 8:47 AM EST reply actions
It was a fun trip. Lousy game, IMO, but a fun trip, fo’ shiz.
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Sounds like a good time was had. You crazy bloggers do any tequila shots?
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
No tequila. I save that for hanging out with you guys.
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what was lousy about a 4-1 win?
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t think any of the Bears played particularly strong games (notably Alzner and Carlson, Osala), and Cash was in goal (wanted to see Holtby). It just wasn’t good hockey, frankly.
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So is Alzner a bust?
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And if I’m reading Corey right, Holtby’s reverting to the mean as well.
But honestly, the Bears have been playing at such a very high level this year, they may need to step off the gas a bit to get ready for the playoffs.
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Clearly. Trade him (and go Flyerz!)
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Alzner can’t hit and he doesn’t play his size!
/2011 Cled
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Check out the 1980 Team USA throwbacks the Milwaukee Admirals wore this weekend:
Btw, Milwaukee has certainly had its share of visitors. The French missionaries and explorers began visiting there in the late 16th century. Milwaukee is an Indian name – it’s pronounced “mill-e-wah-que” which is Algonquin for “the good land.”
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
Admirals FTW!
Our farm team rocks, too, y’know ;)
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions
lulz I wonder if anybody else will get the reference..
Sweet jerseys.
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We’re not worthy!
We’re not worthy!
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
If Benjamin were an ice cream flavor, he’d be pralines and dick.
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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What disturbs me is that the British have a pudding (dessert in American parlance) called “spotted dick”.
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Yum...
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Comfort food rec.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions
Our ability to talk food is surpassed only by our ability to talk beer.
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Which is only surpassed by our ability to drink beer.
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with spotted dick
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Well, it’s better for than poutine, but probably not much better….
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
I looked at some recipes for this made from scratch, and about a sixth of it, by weight, is shredded suet (that’d be raw beef or mutton fat)… yeah, healthy it ain’t.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe I’m just too American or something, but I don’t want shredded mutton fat in my pudding.
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Ain’t eggsackly what Bill Cosby would sell, is it?
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Not a fan of these jerseys. They’re like putting a halter top with your logo on a statute of the Virgin Mary.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 22, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
They’re like putting a halter top with your logo on a statute of the Virgin Mary.
LOL.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Why can’t a tribute just be a tribute?
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by jordanDC on Feb 22, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why do those jerseys look European to me?
Oh, that’s right. Because they’re covered in Ads.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
by Wheeler on Feb 22, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
At first glance, I thought the jerseys said AIDS and I assumed it was some kind of raffle off the jerseys after the game for charity thing.
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Brown
I was happy to see Dustin Brown getting a more regular shift in the game yesterday. I thought for sure he was going to score on his second-chance opportunity off his breakaway in the third period. Brown kicks ass. I hope he the Kings continue to get better, and then Brown somehow becomes moveable, and then they trade him to the Caps.
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Ok Photoshop Project...
The task is to take the photo at the top of this (which is the best photo from the Olympics so far) and edit the uniforms to put Ovechkin in his red Caps uniform and Jagr into a white Penguins uniform… a symbolic rendering of the exorcising the ghosts of playoffs-past.
Let's go Caps!
How about Ovechkin in his red Caps uniform and Jagr in his black Caps uniform?
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Symbolic of Ovechkin knocking the crap Cap out of him.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions
Good thing I read through before posting, because that’s exactly what I was thinking.
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Puck Daddy
Lambert is once again in awe inspiring form today. Even adds in a Carlson reference to pour salt into the wound.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:14 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Real American hero!
I was about to post that article, awesome stuff!
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by Ovechwin on Feb 22, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 11 recs
REC'D
And yes, Lambert was awesome today. Today is an even better day to be American. Still sporting a stupid grin.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Why is he celebrating putting the puck over the glass?
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Why do you hate freedom?
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by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The pic at PD make me wanna pull out the MS paint, channel Pensblog, and go to town writing “Stunned.”
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Like these poor folks. I’ve never seen maple leaves applied across the bridge of the nose before.
I have a C on my heart.
by boutros23 on Feb 22, 2010 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
they ran out of Breathe-Right strips?
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Sure, they stockpiled every NHL superstar to which they could lay hands and even let Eric Staal come along, but if we ever needed proof that the worst American is better than the best Canadian, let’s just keep in mind that Chris freaking Drury had more goals than 17 of Canada’s skaters combined.
FTW.
The John Carlson line is great as well.
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Hm…i wonder if the canadians are second guessing the mike green snub?
I've often thought of becoming a golf club
Could have used him in the third period!
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Not the first time, either. They needed him at the point in the Swiss game; Mike Green buries the shot that Boyle sends wide.
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They are.
DGB Tweet -
Brodeur implodes, Crosby and Nash -3, Iginla hurt… Starting to worry about a “Team Canada Welcome Rap” curse. Has anyone seen Mike Green?
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
It’s not over till it’s over…but I still love it anyway.
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who's the gold favorite now?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Canada
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
tend to agree
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, the doubts are everywhere:
Unless Canada is about to string together four Ws, there are going to be a lot of questions asked about this team’s personnel.
Are Pronger and Scott Niedermayer better than Mike Green?
-Habs Inside/Out
The defense: Widely praised as a major strength when the roster was announced, it hasn’t been. Chris Pronger and Dan Boyle can’t compete at this level. Scott Niedermayer is too far along on the downside of his career to be a major player. The only hope is to go with the young guys
-Truth & Rumors
And all ll of a sudden, Drew Doughty — barely 20 years old — is a “go-to” defenseman.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
in fairness
He’s been way better than I expected. Better than Boyle, Pronger, and Niedermayer, actually. I still reserve judgment on Seabrook, as I haven’t even noticed him.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
As a Doughty defender I’ve taken pride in his play so far. Just like with the Kings he never quits working. Last night he got beat by Brown (great move), but never gave up on the play. Two nice poke checks while laying flat on the ice.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
He’s got the spin-o-rama down to a science. Surprised to see him breaking it out so much in the friggin’ Olympics, though. He’s got some balls on him for sure.
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But he isn’t finishing plays. He made the one spin o rama and then gave the puck away in the slot. He’s been good, but they need the veterans to step it up.
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Agreed those poke checks from ice level were pretty sweet. Doughty and Keith have been the best Canadian D-men out there to my eyes
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
You think Doughty’s been better than Weber?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve been a Weber fan before the games and will be after for sure. He’s been steady out there so far and I would grade him only a slight notch below Keith and Doughty.The only thing I would downgrade Weber on so far is the lack of efficiency on the Canada PP. Definitely not all his fault just Doughty and Keith’s work ethic and D play have jumped out at me more so far.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
fair enough
But what more do you want Weber to do on the PP? In Nashville and Canada he has one task, and leads the team in it both places. Their PP hasn’t been good, but I don’t think the point men (Boyle excluded) have been really to fault.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
I am wondering Chris..what is Weber’s contract status there on the Preds?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
after this year
One year left at 4.5, RFA in 11-12.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
I am fascinated to see how all that D wealth there in Nashville will pan out in the next few years
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
uh, me too
I’m slightly concerned how we can afford a top four of Weber/Suter/Klein/Franson, plus super-prospects Ellis and Blum.
My biggest hope is that the ownership crap gets fixed and that Canadian billionaire Brett Wilson gets his share finalized, that will likely eliminate our self imposed cap and allow us to operate like a normal NHL team.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
What can you tell me about Franson?…I haven’t seen him much compared to Suter and Weber and Klein to a lesser degree
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
at the risk of being overly homerish
Franson is a top-flight NHL power play QB. I would almost venture to say he’ll be better offensively than Weber, but maybe not. His shot is more accurate but not quite as hard. He’s a little slow, but absolutely a massive human being. What may prevent him from ever being on a top pair is his skating. He gets caught out of position because he’s probably the slowest guy on the team not named Wade Belak.
He’s much better than Suter and Klein on offense. Before he broke his ribs, he was getting more PP time than anyone but Weber. If he had been up the whole season we’d be talking Calder. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if he got a look for Sochi in 14.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Al Iafrate without the skating skill or speed?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
not sure
Never saw Iafrate play.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
latter day Mats Sundin would disagree ;)
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I thought you meant after he shaved his head lol
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
wait
Better than the Jagrmullet?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
OMG
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I was going through some old DVDs and saw the ’95 AS weekend, when he defended the crown with 102.8 (IIRC). Some of the hairstyles during the introductions, yeesh.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
No surprise...
Nashville has lots of good D-men… David Poile teams always are loaded on defense. In the 1980s here the Caps had three Hall of Famers suit up every night (Langway, Murphy, Stevens) and the 4th (Hatcher) was pretty good before his ego began to weigh him down…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
At least Babcock has the brains to give them the ice time to reflect that.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Doughty has been very good. Probably their best backliner.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
i wonder what Greener is up to during the break?
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by Caps Nut on Feb 22, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
On the upside, Bruce has got a few days to whip him into shape when he comes back. When do practices start again?
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ours started today
Not sure why, but I guess I’m OK with that. Missing our best guys, but still oughta be productive.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s hope you don’t see Ryan Suter at practice until next Tuesday.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
And then never again after that because he’s been traded to us.
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heh
He’s been pretty damn good, hasn’t he?
I’m not sure he’s outperformed Weber, but then again Shea is a lot easier to praise because he’s flashier.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. But I was already a huge fan.
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Yeah, that’s what I meant. Was a fan before, even moreso now.
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He’s one of the only USA D I trust out there. The rest of them I’m just waiting for a terrible mistake. And why was JJ out there in the final minutes protecting a lead? Would not have been my choice.
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Rafalksi has been incredible
I didn’t think pairing him with Suter would work, but man has it ever offensively.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Jack Johnson probably shouldn’t be on the team. Tim Gleason didn’t look stellar either.
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Yeah, I expected much more from Gleason. I hope we can all agree that Ryan Whitney is the absolute worst.
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I’ve had the misfortune of watching the Ducks a lot, and he never seemed this bad.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Jack Johnson > Ryan Whitney.
Tim Gleason > Ryan Whitney.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Whitney Houston > Ryan Whitney
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There were some baffling decisions on the back end. Why Komisarek? Why Whitney? Why not Keith Ballard? Or Keith Yandle?
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
at this point
I would’ve taken both Yandle and Ballard over Whitney. I think Komisarek woulda been better defensively than those guys, though.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
Komisarek is hurt. Ballard did something to Team USA or Burke/Wilson because he didn’t get a sniff; not even an invite to summer camp.
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he's a little volatile, no?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’d have taken Bogs if he were a touch older – that line is already pretty young.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions
Bogosian?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yep, sorry – realized that may not have been clear after I posted.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
Komisarek is tough and physical, he’s been a top pair defender for 3-4 years now, has lots of experience playing against the guys we are facing in the Olympics, and his GM and coach in the NHL run Team USA. I didn’t see how he wouldn’t make it.
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Here’s a question for you Team USA fans. Say Mike Green was American and named to Team USA, who would you drop to have him on the team and who would you pair him with?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 2:32 PM EST up reply actions
Drop anybody but Suter and Rafalski. Pair him with Suter.
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I couldn’t break up Suter/Rafalski after watching them together.
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yeah
Suter/Rafalski
Green/Erik Johnson??
I’d drop Whitney.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
Green is better than any of them but Jack Johnson hasn’t impressed me at all. I’d also play green on wing over the US 3rd and 4th lines. Lets not be blinded by the result, the US still gave up 44 shots last night many from high risk areas, so it isn’t like their D shut anyone down
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I’d also play green on wing
ugh.
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I don;t even think there is wingah related snark here.
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 2:59 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn’t surprised when Komisarek made the team because, as you said,
GM and coach in the NHL run Team USA.[/Quote]But then I started looking around for guys who would replace him. You know what? It’s really tough finding big, physical, American defensemen who have a right-handed shot. The other two American players who are comparable in size with a right-handed shot are Bogosian (who’s probably too inexperienced) and Tom Gilbert (who may be underrated, but isn’t very physical).
So yeah, you’re right. He probably makes it no matter what if he’s healthy.
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Gleason was the guy I thought would be the best replacement for him, but Gleason hasn’t looked that good so far.
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Anyone bought one of the new US jerseys? I’m thinking about getting the blue one, but maybe I’ll wait until the outcome of the tourney is decided.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 22, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
I bought a Carlson USA jersey (from WJC — old logo).
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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 22, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
Milbury and Ovechkin
Was anyone else totally stunned when Al Michaels asked Milbury and Roenick who’d they’d pick to start a franchise, Ovechkin or Crosby and Milbury picked Ovechkin.
That was so scripted it wasn’t funny. There’s a perception of anti-Russian bias on Milbury’s part, and they scripted the reverse to try to counter it. I’ve never seen anything more fake.
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by gotsparkly on Feb 22, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah, we pretty much beat that down yesterday, after first doing a double take. It was so opposite everything they’d both been saying all week, and Milbury wasn’t doing the choosing Ovechkin thing all that well anyway.
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He also said “unchlaracterlistic” three times in a row.
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But was the segment tremendously tremendous?
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn near wept when I saw that as a trending topic in DC on twitter last night.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 22, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Given Milbury’s track record as a GM, that assessment is worrisome.
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Other than ‘The Hit’, My favorite gif from last night.
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Love it, but Kessel needs to step his game up in a big way.
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I hear he’s upset having to room with Jack Johnson.
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So would I…that boxer’s been dead 64 years now. It’s gotta smell by now.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Team Canada coaches have yet to find a line for the team’s best player, Crosby. He has played consistently with Rick Nash and inconsistently with Jarome Iginla, Patrice Bergeron and, last night, Mike Richards. Nothing has worked as well as it should.
But isn’t the standard line that Crosby doesn’t have other elite talent in PIT and so if he had real linemates he’d be even better and everyone would see he’s better than AO? So now he was supposed to have elite wingers and put up points at an ungodly pace? But he’s not?
In all honesty, Crosby has been amazing. Definitely CANs best player but it’s mind-bottling that he can’t develop even minimal chemistry with guys like Nash and Iginla. Maybe he caught that AO puck-hog bug this season.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2010 11:44 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
have they tried
Eric Staal with him yet?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Fuck Eric Staal
I don’t think they have but it’s probably just a matter of time. I think Staal has been basically invisible all Olympics, except for his goal against USA, of course. What a dick. But if there was ever a cure for invisibility it’s Crosby.
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I agree
But he’s one of the few that hasn’t been tried there with him. Brenden Morrow next? :P
Actually, F/B, I think Nash and Crosby have decent chemistry. You do have to wonder, though, if St. Louis, Lecavalier, or Stamkos would’ve fit better than Staal.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Green can play wingaaaaaah! St. Louis is actually the guy I think should have made the team over Staal. They didn’t need another C, they needed a W. St. Louis has big game experience, speed, and as much puck skill as you could want.
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Yeah… St. Louis is exactly what Canada needs now… and Green. Whoops, too late, Stevie Y. has to get another Western Conference player instead…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
I’d taken Jordan over Eric right about now.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
Jordan wouldn’t have been beaten by Kesler for that ENG, I don’t think.
Speaking of douches, Perry is an expert in the field, FWIW.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of douches
Plenty of both squads. I’m no fan of Orpik, Kelser’s mouth, or Kessel. However, a team with Sid, Pronger, Staal, Richards, and Heatley easily wins the douchbag count.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
And murderer count.
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by jordanDC on Feb 22, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Jordan Staal is as overrated as his brother, and there is no way Babcock would have put him on the ice over his other options to score with a man up.
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by bigonetimer on Feb 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
A question that was raised before the Games may be getting an answer – did Team Canada put too many natural centers on the team, thinking they could transition easily to wing?
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Definitely a fair question. I tend to think it’s not a big deal because they have so much skill and the C to W transition is the easiest to make, but you have a lot of guys playing outside their normal roles, and that can’t be a great thing.
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with the Sharks #1 line intact, Perry-Getzlaf retained, and Dreamy playing with Nash, I’d guess that’s not going to be an excuse Steve Y digests well. To me, the big collapse has been in net and, to an extent, the team.ca defense—both considered utopian just a week ago.
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Yeah I’d tend to agree. No excuse will fly if this team loses. No matter how you look at it they have more talent than anyone else.
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If Lou doesn’t get the nod against GER, and the rest of the starts, frankly, I’ll be surprised.
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Lots of support for MAF to start over at Pensburgh. No surprise, just mentioning it.
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Personally, this bit about Crosby can’t develop chemistry with (fill in name of winger here), whether with Pittsburgh or Team Canada is getting really old, really fast. This guy is supposed to be the supreme talent on the planet in making those around him better.
Well, isn’t about time he lived up to that end of the bargain?
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Bingo.
This is the A#1 reason I don’t buy the “generational talent” hype.
What was the name of the guy that Lemiuex turned into a 30 goal scorer for the one season he rode shotgun with him?
And look at the numbers of Zubrus and Clark beofre, during, and after they played with A.O.
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I think that Crosby has kept Geurin’s numbers up this year. For a guy his age, he shouldn’t still be on a pace for 25 goals.
He’s on almost precisely the same goal-scoring pace he was on last year with NYI… last year, 16 goals in 61 games; this year, 17 in 61 games.
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but he’s one year older, when a year means a lot. This isn’t someone maintaining his game from 27-28. It’s him maintaining it from 38-39.
Might that be balanced by the fact that he’s on this pace with Crosby this year, as opposed to the center-o’-the-week with the Islanders last year (Weight, Nielsen, Bailey…pick one).
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Less impressive, given that he’s getting more ice time and a lot more PP time this year. I mean, impressive that he’s able to play more, I suppose, but he’s not scoring at the same rate he was.
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Last year Crosby wasn’t even the best player on his team (Malkin). At least this year he is the best player on his team. To be best of the generation he will at the least have to beat out his teammates consistently, let alone Ovi.
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Depends when you were watching. Against the Caps Crosby was the better player. Against DET it was Malkin. And that all goes back to it being a team sport.
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Sure, Crosby was better in many games but over the course of the season Malkin was better. Malkin won the Conn Smyth and was better in the regular season.
This is about to get off topic but I think one of the major problems (obviously Varly coming back to earth and the general luck involved in OTs are some others) the caps had from game 3 on is that they focused too much on Crosby and let Malkin beat them whereas in the first two games of the series the caps shut down malkin, let Crosby do his darndest to beat us but alone, Crosby couldnt beat us
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I disagree with all that. I thought Malkin was mostly invisible because of Malkin. I didn’t see us really shutting him down at all, and Crosby did damn near beat us alone. Malkin had the points and trophies, but Crosby is the best player on that team.
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Now he is, he wasn’t last year.
And if Malkin returns to form and Crosby stays at his current level Pit will be damn near impossible to beat.
Even with a more developed and way better shot this year, I still think the best way to beat Crosby is to take away his passing lanes, play passively against him along the wall (because the second you overplay him he will beat you) and make sure their other lines, code for Malkin & Staal, don’t beat you.
It may be my anti-Crosby bias but Rick Nash looked like the best player on the ice other than Miller. Some of that I give Crosby credit for but again, if you aren’t the best player on your line, you aren’t the best player in the world.
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Malkin was mostly invisible because of… wait for it… Jeff Schultz!
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He’s a Malkin-remover
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like with Marian Hossa?
Nash and Crosby do seem a little off together, though. Richards seemed like an odd choice to play on that line. They have not found the chemistry that Russia has seemed to with Semin, Ovechkin, Malkin which should be the best line in the tournament.
Personally, this bit about Crosby can’t develop chemistry with (fill in name of winger here), whether with Pittsburgh or Team Canada is getting really old, really fast. This guy is supposed to be the supreme talent on the planet in making those around him better.
Well, isn’t about time he lived up to that end of the bargain?
I’ve been thinking this for a couple years now. Crosby’s yet to make those around him better. And, yes, Pittsburgh’s wingers leave a ton to be desired. But ffs, Ovie turned Clark into a 30 goal scorer! Crosby has yet to pull a similar trick with the guys on his line. Andnow Babcock’s tried every freaking combination with Crosby, and still nothing. Time to put to rest this myth that Crosby somehow makes those around him better. it’s simply not true.
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Ryan Kesler scored the prettiest ENG I’ve ever seen. Even better that it’s because he caught Perry being lazy. It was a microcosm of the night, USA winning the little battles to make the plays. I’d love to know how the VAN fan contingent in the crowd felt about that. They had to have respected him a little bit, right?
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If they didn’t, I’d like to move a gingah to get him here.
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Canucks fans LOVE Ryan Kesler. I hope they can’t resign him. I think he’s a douche, but hey, he IS American…and…kinda good.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
It was gorgeous. It illustrated why people should never dismiss ENGs — that took work and determination.
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ENG = WIN… that’s all that matters.
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Olympic Hockey Stats
Since several people have asked about the stats page:
http://www.nbcolympics.com/hockey/statistics/gender=m/index.html
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IIHF.com also has game-by-game stats with stuff like shots and TOI, too.
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Hank really needs to improve on his save percentage.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I’d prefer to see him giving 110% every time he’s out there myself.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
My wife would prefer he had 110% less clothing on.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even as a straight male, I am not uncomfortable in saying he does have stunning eyes.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I get why the ladies like the guy. Dude is handsome.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
And he likes the idea of sticking pins into a Sidney Crosby bobblehead…. can’t beat that.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
no kidding
Kesler’s FO % implies slacking, too.
Man, Suter is all over that stat board. Win.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oh man, Nicky’s 2nd in FO%, and tied for the lead in points.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
But his stats are only that good because he’s playing on a line with Ovechkin. Oh wait…
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 22, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
yeah
He’s one of like two players whose OLY linemates are worse than his NHL linemates (the other, arguably, being Bobby Ryan)
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
Keeps getting set up for tap-ins by Nick!
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Yes, and he makes them. Which is kind of the point, yes?
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Loui Ericsson scored the quietest 36 goals last season and is on pace for 30+ again this season… the guy can play…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been kind of liking the Fleischmann/Krejci combo.
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Me, too, but Krejci is definitely a downgrade from Semin.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
If the Kovolchuk or Semin argument gets going again in the off season, I’m now casting my vote for Semin after seeing them both on the same ice these Olympics.
I’m not, but I will say that Kovalchuk hasn’t done anything to make me think “Shit, now the Devils are going to be a problem.”
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he sure did against the Preds...
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
What’d he do?
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1g, 2a
Made life hell for Rinne all night. Didn’t realize what kind of a shot he had. He cranked one from inside the blueline that whistled through traffic and rang off the crossbar louder than I’ve ever heard a shot before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has the hardest slapper out of any forward out there.
Also, he WAS their PP on that night. Always moving his feet and getting in position. Incredible offensive player, terrible defensively.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds about right. His shot is absolutely ridiculous.
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did it look like Krejci was giving Flash hell for putting his one-timer wide of an essentially open net?
If you want to survive out here, you've got to know where your towel is.
He should have been. That was brutal.
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Must be a Caps thing but Flash’s miss was nowhere near as bad as poor Sasha blowing that wide open net on his backhand. Of course, he did make up for it in the third.
Well Sasha had his back to the net and I’m sure didn’t realize how much time and space he had. It was a bad miss for sure, but Flash was looking right at an empty net and biffed it.
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Sasha giveth..
…and Sasha taketh away penalties in the offensive end of the rink…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
uuu
Suter is Americans are all over that stat board. Win.
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by bigonetimer on Feb 22, 2010 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
Hamhuis
Hamhuis might be out of the Bruins price range. It’s believed if the Predators shop him they’ll want a scoring forward in return and while Chiarelli could offer Michael Ryder, the right winger’s poor performance this season and $4 million cap hit doesn’t make him an enticing trade option.
Pretty much confirming most everyone’s thoughts.
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missed the nightcap—what was the call on the play?
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five min major/game misconduct
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
haven't heard yet how bad
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions
nope
suspended.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
what, no Wheel of Justice? I thought Bettman had more pull.
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“Clear”
Immediately after Pitkä’s stopper was conducted tests on Patric Hörnqvist.
“We go through all the verbal protocols and where was he clear as a bell. We have also discussed with the NHL doctors who are on site how they are dealing with these kinds of injuries and we are in full agreement. The danger is that symptoms may Hörnqvist later.
“It may be that we underestimated the power to the head, but right now he is symptom free,” says [team official or team doctor, I’m not sure which] Björn Waldebäck.
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by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
From how it looked, he should have gotten what he did… and perhaps been tossed from the tournament completely.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Steve Sullivan tweet after practice:
Was great to get back on the ice. @dellis39 wasn’t as bad at playing forward as I thought he would be.
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I thought I read/heard somewhere that the SOG differential from the US-Canada tilt last night was similar to the US-Soviet Miracle On Ice … ???
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Nevermind. Close. 45-22 (CAN-USA) compared to 39-16 (USSR-USA)
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The margin of 23 SOG was identical…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Let’s stop talking about “The Hit” already. I loved it as much as the next guy, but it’s just a good, everyday hockey hit by the world’s greatest player. We shouldn’t make a bunch more over it, IMHO…
by markbona-capsfan99 on Feb 22, 2010 1:33 PM EST reply actions
Disagree. It was a momentum-swinging moment in the most important international hockey tournament in years authored by the game’s best player against one of the game’s former best players (to say nothing of the symbolism that’s specific to Caps fans). It’s a big deal.
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by J.P. on Feb 22, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Exactly. It’s not like he ran over some nobody. That’s Jaromir Jagr, he never gets cleaned out like that. Throw in the fact that it was the turning point in the game that decided who got a first round bye and it was a pretty huge moment.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I only saw Jagr nailed like that once, and it was in the playoffs in 1996, I think. Jagr was carrying the puck and Tinordi hit him shoulder to the chest (like this hit) only the hit was in the corner, and rather than going to the ice, Jagr fell full impact into the boards and was unconcious for about 10 seconds on the ice… he had to be helped off. Of course, the bad news was the Caps lost that game (and the series)…
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
It turned the game on a dime. What was lethargic 2-1 game became a 3-1 lead 10 seconds later, and it woke up both teams.
Plus the fact that Jagr got sent to the ice [Avery]-first by one of our players makes it even more sweet.
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by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 22, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
A lot of non-hockey Olympic fans are whining “what’s so great about it?”
(“What about my sport?”)
You have to wonder why Crosby’s shootout goal against a lesser team didn’t make front page for many news outlets, but Ovi’s hit is all over the place. It’s not like he plays for the US.
What does that tell the NHL about what sells?
Just noticed something
AO ditched the fancy blades for this game:
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He ditched one of them during the last game.
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There was some “unspecified damage” to one of the skates on Friday, so he went back to his old skates, according to the WaPo Olympic blog.
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by mercurialwinger on Feb 22, 2010 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Geez, I knew that hit on Jagr was big, but reducing him to a bloody pile of goo?
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NBC Fails yet again
I just went from having a USA hockey game broadcast live to one being broadcast tape delayed come Wednesday I swear nothing else NBC will never do will shock me. Hey morons, nice of you to put it on the mothership, so people can watch in HD, but how about putting it on live for the rest of us that don’t live on 30 Rock time. Its even more dumb when you realize that it could be on at Noon PT, right in the middle of lunch hour. I can’t believe the MT & PT network affiliates have let this situation drag on for this many Olympic cycles. The network is slowly killing them 8 different ways and yet even with Late Night situation they continue to act meek.
It’s not 1885 and news doesn’t travel via the Pony Express. You can’t avoid scores much less US ones unless you live in a shack without electricity in Montana.
I guess its off to the lame computer feed again on Wednesday. Which isn’t exactly live either based on what I saw yesterday.
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PST hockey fans unite! This NBC Olympic coverage just gets worse and worse every day. You’d think living a 3 hour drive from Vancouver would help, but no. I guess hooray for online feeds, however time delayed they might be.
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by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 22, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions
FWIW, the 12 noon game Wednesday was always slotted for NBC live ET/CT and delayed otherwise, and it was also slotted for the US to play in assuming they got to that round (regardless of their seed).
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
The real story today is that NBC flexed its muscle and had the Tuesday schedule swapped around. The noon game was originally going to be the 5-12 game OR the US’s game, regardless of their seed, but they of course aren’t playing in this round, so it should’ve been Czech Republic-Latvia. However, in direct contradiction to their previously released schedule, Switzerland-Belarus (i.e., the game that determines who USA will play) got moved from 9 PM (PST) to noon, Czech-Latvia from noon to 7, and Slovakia-Norway from 7 to 9.
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The LTV-CR game going to screw with the scheduling of NOR-SLV?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
They couldn’t split them up 50-50 between the two venues? I think everyone’s seen how crappy the ice gets by game 3 on a single day.
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by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Luongo to start against Germany
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Can’t say I’m shocked. Guess this is the passing of the torch.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
“But…there is no trapezoid. So, this couldn’t happen. I bet someone was wearing a shiny visor…yeah, that’s it.”
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by ns on Feb 22, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think it’s ironic that with how much Brodeur dislikes the butterfly style, at least two of the goals last night would have been stopped by Luongo and his butterfly.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but do some of the glove saves Brodeur made get by Luongo when he’s on his knees?
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 22, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
In general that may be true, but I didn’t notice Brodeur snag any shots that were labeled top glove last night. And with a goalie with the size and quickness of Luongo you need to really snipe that top corner to get it by his glove, even if he is in the butterfly.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
But, just to clear this up, I don’t think last night showed a flaw in Brodeur’s style. It was more the result of poor focus on his part. However, I do think with the type of shots the US was getting last night – throwing pucks low and on the net through traffic and crashing the net – were the type of shots a bit butterfly is very well suited to stop.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Do you think there was a game plan there? Everyone knows Brodeur is going to stand up. Do you think they try throwing the puck high from in close if Luongo is in net?
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Possibly. But I think the US was just thinking get traffic in front and throw the puck on net regardless of the goalie because that’s the only way they were going generate chances with the talent disparity. Their goals were on deflections, shots from the point, and garbage in front. It’s not like they got many clear chances to pick their shots.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
No, but I think Kane had a good chance cutting down the lower part of the circle after a turnover and he went high and Brodeur snagged it. Kane owns Luongo, that bitch is in the net. I think he also got one with the shaft of his stick but I’m not positive.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 22, 2010 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was going to cite that same play. Patrick Kane remembers his hat trick in game 6, there’s absolutely no way Luongo stops him from there. I was sure that was going to be a goal, but I was left muttering about Marty.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 22, 2010 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Lars and the rest of Team Sweden got the day off so they can visit with their folks or get to enjoy some Olympic spirit.
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on days like today. Somebody just asked me why Ovechkin’s hit was such a big deal, which then led to a conversation about the composition of Team USA vs. Team Canada. Fun!
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I had my non-hockey following friends asking me about Ryan Miller. It was pretty cool stuff.
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My co-worker emailed me to ask my opinion of the legality of AO’s hit.
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
I was driving home from camping during the USA-CAN game and got 3 different people who NEVER watch hockey text/call me saying “ARE YOU WATCHING THIS GAME!?”
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by SeattleCapsFan on Feb 22, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
why Ovechkin’s hit was such a big deal
Did you give them the game reason, or the team history reason? Or both?
One of the many things I loved about the hit was watching the whole Czech team float around like gnats for minutes afterward.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 22, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
His facial expression says: “This was all your doing, Ted!”
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Do his skates look like strangely shaped toys to anyone else? His skates have never looked like boots, just plastic-y things that wrap his feet.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
And Ovechkin’s focus is immediately elsewhere. No time to wait around and admire his handiwork. Or shoulderwork, as it were.
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I meant mine as in a revenge shoulder-hit for not living up to expectations in D.C. But yours worked too!
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I hear the train a comin’
It’s rolling round the bend …
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by renhoak on Feb 22, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But now Ovechkin’s shoulder
Knocked me on my rear end…
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Didn’t I ever tell ya about bumbles?…. Bumbles BOUNCE!
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by ThePeerless on Feb 22, 2010 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
farg, not going to look any longer
Can’t find the link from USA Today or CNN or whatever I saw yesterday about a cable channel called “Universe(?)” that supposedly half of US households have. They say their coverage of the games is great and irreverent with celebrity guests. Good refreshing analysis.
One example discussion was over the Canadian women’s team’s recent 18-0 victory and whether they went too far.
The retort?
If the US had done it they would have turned it into a movie of the week.
Pretty sure Universal HD is just running olympic clipshow-type coverage.
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by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
And isn’t Torres kind of redundant now that we’ve got Chimera?
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 22, 2010 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Raffi Torres?
Hahahahaha.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Nah, they’re completely different players. Torres is a streaky scoring winger with relatively weak skating ability. Chimmer is a speedy energy-line-type guy who’s not expected to put up great offensive numbers.
There’s really very little reason for us to chase after Torres.
GUTEN TAAAAAAAAAAAAG!
He sounds like a good fit for the Pens.
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
You said “streaky scoring winger”, and that’s pretty much what they need. I don’t think they’re willing to give up a lot for Ponikarovsky, either.
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
uh
They better not want him for Crosby or Malkin’s wing. Crosby’ll be down ice and Torres will be about a day behind him.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly why he’d be a great fit for the Pens! :D
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by Steck It Out on Feb 22, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good News Everyone!
According to this report “Semyon Varlamov is expected to return to the lineup after the Olympics”!
The worst trade deadline deal in Senators’ history.
Y’all will have to find it for yourselves – but put your best guess in comments before you start reading!
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*lightbulb*
Didn’t Laich come from the Senators?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
hmmm
I know what the best one was. Yashin for Spezza and Chara, LOL.
Is it the one where they dealt Chara to Boston?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Chara went to Boston as a UFA, not a trade. Although the decision to keep Redden and let Chara go was probably worse than any of their trades.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 22, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
oooh
Thanks. I’m bad at hockey history. I really didn’t start watching the game until 07.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
A little love for the ladies....
USA women are in the gold-medal finals after curbstomping Sweden 9-1.
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Did you watch the Brian Burke interview after? Cammi Granato looked intimidated by him.
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I dunno. I just watched it. Now they are showing the end of the USA/CAN game.
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Turning that on, BRB.
BTW, I still haven’t gotten tired of watching Ovi flatten Jagr yet.
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Much as I love her, she doesn’t seem to feel comfortable in front of the cameras. I’m hoping she settles in eventually.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 22, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
So did Chris Drury shut up all the naysayers?
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He plays in New York City? There will always be naysayers.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Shut me up for sure. I killed Burke for selecting the wrong Ranger — I wanted Dubbie.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 22, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
I like Doobie too, but we couldn’t take all 3. After talking with K_C he swayed me that Callahan is the better player. And Drury is Drury.
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That’s the thing, Drury is Drury. I wanted Dubinsky/Callahan instead of Drury/Callahan, but Drury definitely has me singing a different tune now.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 22, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
I probably would have only taken 1 Ranger and found a way to get Oshie and/or Okposo on the team.
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So if you’re taking one Ranger before the tournament, who would it have been?
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 22, 2010 6:47 PM EST up reply actions
Right before it would have been Dubinsky because he played C. But right after the selection I talked to K_C and he convinced me that Callahan is the better choice, so it would have been him. Drury would not have been on my list at all.
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wait
Why is Callahan > Dubinsky again?
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly shut me up. Given his play with the Rags over the past 2 seasons I thought he was done. Now he looks ready to pitch Trumball, I mean captain the USA to a medal.
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It’s not his fault he’s paid like a superstar. How do you turn that down? His whole career he wasn’t a superstar. Even his two good years in BUF he wasn’t a superstar and that was a high powered offense. Then the Rangers offer him an absurd contract and how could he refuse? Now he’s saddled with those expectations and torn apart, but he’s still the same guy he always was, just a little older. He’ll do the small things and try to help his team however he can. He’s not going to score a ton of points, especially not on an offensively anemic team like NYR.
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I think I expected him to reach the 30 goal mark again in NY. Also, this year he only has 10 so far more than halfway through the season. I think the contract certainly colors most people’s view of him, but as I said I think he should be a legit 30/40 guy most years. I guess when you play with dregs though your numbers are going to be down. On the other hand, I never question his leadership abilities or sacrifices, unlike some Ranger fans. Dude was playing with one arm in last year’s playoffs and they acted like he should have been Mark Messier.
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He shut up Roenick
I’ve grown to appreciate J.R. a lot more during the Olympics.
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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
He’s like your buddy at the local pub. It’s why I’ve always loved JR. He doesn’t always say the smartest things, but you know he’s being honest. Also, big of him to admit his mistake on Drury. I guarantee you many others in the media who said similar things aren’t going on radio doing mea culpas.
I’d also like to say Eddie O. has been much better than usual this Olympics, minus his “tremendous” thing yesterday which was kind of endearing in an odd way. He has been more judicious with his comments and has talked more strategy. Hope that continues when NHL season resumes.
As for Milbury and Pierre, they are who we thought they were.
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Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but today on the broadcast of USA-SWE they were talking about the Miracle on Ice and it was mentioned that having a game played in the afternoon being shown tape delayed later would “never work today”. Uh…
by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 22, 2010 6:33 PM EST reply actions
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I have a C on my heart.
by boutros23 on Feb 22, 2010 6:42 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
i love that now ovechkin and malkin are on the same team for the time being, they absolutely love eachother. or atleast thats what it looks like. whereas if its a pittsburgh washington game, they are ready to kill one another
wooo
Sommet Center (Preds’ home ice) officially will be the Bridgestone Arena tomorrow morning (Winter Classic/NHL sponsor). HUGE coup for Nashville.
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So that means more corporate support? That’s a good sign for keeping them in NSH right?
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absolutely
Bridgestone is infinitely more reputable and stable than the Sommet Group.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
That is great news! I know the one major concern about Nashville is the corporate support issue. I’m always happy to see any NHL team, even the dreaded Pens, be in a more financially stable position.
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yep
Its really cool that one of the NHL’s main sponsor is now the main sponsor of Nashville hockey. Take that, Lie-pold.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 22, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
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