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Not bad. I guess the stars are a nod to playing in the NHL in DC.
I’ve noticed several Olympic masks of NHL goalies reference their pro team as well as their country. (Lunqvist’s is my favorite so far.)
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I’ve noticed several Olympic masks of NHL goalies reference their pro team as well as their country.
Which makes me wonder why that’s not a problem, but “Support Our Troops” is.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Because the team art isn’t promoting anything. A shark, a depiction of the head of the Statue of Liberty that blends into the background, are neutral images. They aren’t making a statement. “Support our Troops” is a politial statement. It is propaganda. It is a public demonstration related to a controversial topic: war. “Support our Martyrs,” “Support the Republican Guard,” “Support NATO Troops” would also be inappropriate.
The Olympics is supposed to be a politically neutral event. “Support our Troops” crosses that line.
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It seems to me that the team art is promoting a specific team, which is a for-profit enterprise not associated with the Olympic Games. And if any messages are going to be forbidden, all of them should be.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
It isn’t a promotion because they aren’t official logos, names or slogans of the teams. The artwork has general association with the goalies’ teams. Lumping them in with messages would be an extreme stretch.
The Save our Troops artwork on Quick’s mask might also have rights attached to it. Save Our Troops is also a military support organization.
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Also, I noticed that the goalie for Slovakia’s women’s team had Vancouver Olympic stickers covering some of the artwork on her mask.
U.S goalies aren’t being singled out.
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U.S goalies aren’t being singled out.
I didn’t mean to suggest that they are, but it does seem to me that the rules are being unevenly applied.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
it does seem to me that the rules are being unevenly applied.
Examples?
From the comments I’ve read on other sites, it seems Americans are taking the “Save Our Troops” decision personally. Too much emotion, too little thought.
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As I said above, if any messages are going to be forbidden, all of them should be. And I think a logo or image closely associated with a player’s NHL team would count as a message, although I guess the IOC disagrees.
I lean toward the side of all messages being forbidden — only Olympic rings and national flags/colors/symbols allowed.
Examples, from the Vancouver Sun:
U.S. netminder Jonathan Quick will be ordered to remove the slogan ‘Support Our Troops’ from his helmet…
Ryan Miller has also been told to remove the slogan ‘Miller Time’ from his helmet while the third American netminder Tim Thomas had already placed a sticker over a slogan on his mask during training Monday.
…Miller said he had agreed to remove ‘Miller Time,’ which is also a popular slogan used by a beer company, but might fight to keep ‘Matt Man,’ a tribute to a dead friend, from being taken off his helmet.
Canadian women’s hockey team goalie Shannon Szabados has also run afoul of the IOC for a sticker on her helmet honouring an old teammate, Matt Cook, who is battling cancer. In her case, however, the IOC ordered her to cover her own name, but allowed her to keep a sticker on the back that reads ‘FLM’ — Fight Like Matt.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Well, “Fight Like Matt” sounds like a directive, so I can see their reasoning and it sounds like they came up with a reasonable compromise. “Matt Man” didn’t have the same issue so it got a pass.
“Miller Time” is understandable since it is known to the broader world as a beer slogan and Miller isn’t an Olympic sponsor, therefore they would be getting free advertising even though that wasn’t Ryan Miller’s intention. I assume Miller has the rights to the slogan, so they could make an issue out of it too.
The names I’ve been puzzling over too ( and I haven’t reread the rules since yesterday) but it could be about self-promotion. That is why I think the sheep on Ovie’s skates might cross the line, because it pictorially represents him and not the team/country.
From your examples, I wouldn’t say the rules were unevenly applied.
only Olympic rings and national flags/colors/symbols allowed
I also like this idea (especially after seeing a tiara painted on a female skier’s helmet).
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Well, "Fight Like Matt" sounds like a directive, so I can see their reasoning and it sounds like they came up with a reasonable compromise.
I don’t mean to be dense, but I don’t follow.
From your examples, I wouldn’t say the rules were unevenly applied.
Ryan Miller’s “Matt Man” was forbidden.
Shannon Szabados’ “FLM” was permitted.
Same concept, different decisions.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, then they let him keep it after he protested. Good for him.
However, my original point stands — they started out by telling him to remove it but didn’t start out telling Szabados to remove "FLM" — even though she was told to remove her own name.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 19, 2010 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
From all the accounts I’ve read “Matt Man” might not have been as much as an issue as played out in the media. There is no consensus on what the IOC originally said about that particular thing. It got lumped in and muddied up with the other controversial items. It sounds like an explanation, and not a protest, was all that was needed to keep “Matt Man” and I didn’t read anywhere that he was told to remove it. The articles I read said that he was afraid/worried that the IOC would ask him to cover it.
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That’s possible. It does seem that all the reports have come from people the IOC talked to, but never from IOC official statements.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 19, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Pix found at this link.
I’m not a big fan of this design, it’s a little too generic. Stars – check. Eagles – check. Flag – check.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Goalie’s nickname across the chin – check.
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Semyon Varlamov wanted something really Russian for his Olympic mask, and David came up with this design solution that Semyon immediately made thumbs up for. The Russian double-headed eagle is watching over the mask and spreading its wings. Very effective. It’s created with a graphic look with a metallic sharpness. The metallic look gives a violent feeling to the whole, where the red base highlights the entire design.
An extremely contrast-rich mask design that for sure can be seen from a bit longer. On the chin the Russian flag is flying in the wind, and all around cool graphic stars are glittering as a greeting to his club masks, also created by his mask painter David Gunnarsson.
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