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Watched Mega Shark Vs. Giant Octopus tonight. Awful, awful movie. And it was exactly what I expected. I almost look forward to Mega Piranha.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 6:48 AM EST reply actions
Seen it. Couldn’t turn it off, even though I know I should have. It was mesmerizingly terrible.
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by J.P. on Feb 18, 2010 7:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know. So many noticeable mistakes and gaffs. I loved when you could clearly see one of the cast members on set for a split second, and you could tell they had to cut a scene together.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
If it doesn’t have Bear Grylls in it, then you’re lucky.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 7:50 AM EST up reply actions
I love how they just recycled the same three or so CGI clips of the megashark and the giant octopus fighting throughout the entire movie. It was even better when the shark would bite of a tentacle, then in the next scene the tentacle would be back. Amazing regenerative powers on that octopus.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 18, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I feel like I’m in a timewarp….don’t do this too me this early in the day. It’s actually Thursday….right?
Jesus. Think I need a cup of coffee? Or would you believe I’m in Australia?
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by J.P. on Feb 18, 2010 7:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I quite like the time, gets to me right after dinner.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 7:10 AM EST up reply actions
I’m watching Fargo for the first time right now. Man these Minnesota accents are killing me.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 7:56 AM EST reply actions
They’ll sink in after awhile, but as soon as they do, you’ll love the flick.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 8:08 AM EST up reply actions
Frances MacDormand is money. I love her in pretty much every movie she’s in.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 8:09 AM EST up reply actions
It’s an awesome movie. But Fargo is to Minnesota accents what The Departed to Boston accents.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 8:18 AM EST up reply actions
Wicked fahkin’ ahsome!
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 8:22 AM EST up reply actions
Fargo is a great film. I enjoy pretty much anything the Coens touch.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 18, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
Saw the return of the Filet O’Fish jingle last night. No singing fish though, they were in a car.
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 18, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
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Not as badly as conventional wisdom would have you think. People forget there was a breakthrough south of town through Jackson’s Corps (AP Hill’s Division). There was just nothing in place to exploit it, which again, is pretty much Burnside’s fault. By the time the frontal assault had took place later in the day, Meade’s attack had been driven back, and the battle was pretty much over.
The ironic thing about Fredericksburg is that Lee and Jackson never wanted to fight there. I think Jackson said something to the effect of "we will win the battle, but it won’t be a victory". Both of them wanted to fight the battle on the North Anna, where Lee ended up trapping Grant two years later and coming thisclose to destroying half the Army of the Potomac.
Heading into off topic here though…
I agree, it wasn’t as bad as what you might think, and what arguably hurt Burnside more than being out of position at FB and forcing his hand in that assault was the stupid-ass Mud March to try to get around Lee. Apparently, he was trying to restore reputation a bit after FB and that backfired in the worst way. Countless supply wagons lost and sick soldiers, and getting an entire army literally stuck in the mud. IIRC, thats what eventually lost him his job and Lincoln gave it to Hooker, who, lets face it, wasn’t a shining example of generalship. Ah, Chancellorsville.
Francis A. O’Reilly’s book on Fredericksburg is EPIC. One of the best battlefield histories I’ve read.
I’ll have to read that again once I finish my World War Two book.
Thanks, I’ll have to check that at the library. Do you read any Jeff Shaara?
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Thanks, I’ll have to check that at the library. Do you read any Jeff Shaara?
Not particularly. I’m not much into fantasy stories.
The thing about the Mud March was that Hooker pretty much did the exact same thing, except that Burnside was under such immense political pressure (justifiably) after Fredericksburg that he felt he had to make a move.
Also, Burnside was KILLED by his supply situation. The Army of the Potomac’s supply system was an absolute mess in the turnover from McClellan to Burnside (having to wait weeks for his pontoons is a good example). One of the first (and most important things) that Hooker did when he took over was completely reorganize the entire commissary department. The Army of the Potomac was never as better supplied, equipped, and fed than it was under Hooker.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Burnside’s the guy with the awesome mutton chops, right?
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 18, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions
yep
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions
Nice. That’s all I remember about him. I’ll bet he nabbed a lot of ladies with that thing.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 18, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions
not so much fantasy
But I see what you’re saying, he certainly has to take liberties to further his story/audience. Still good reading, though.
Hooker may have had better supplies, but made even worse tactical decisions (see: Chancellorsville and his flank) Outside of Grant, the Union Army really had some imbalanced leaders. McClellan-great motivator, Hooker-great organizer, Meade-good tactician, but too slow, etc., and that really hurt them in the early going. Lee and Jackson just had their way with them. Hindsight is 20/20, but the war could’ve ended much sooner had they had their act together early on.
Another thing on FB, though, that hurt Burnside was letting the troops loot the hell out of the town. I realize there wasn’t a lot you can do about that, but surely, he could’ve made some effort. That really pissed off the Confederates.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions
Joe B. went to Bowdoin College, whose President was once Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain (himself an alum and former professor). Who was involved in that assault on Marye’s heights in Fredericksburg. Just thought I’d bring some Caps symmetry into this.
by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 18, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
But I see what you’re saying, he certainly has to take liberties to further his story/audience. Still good reading, though.
Eh….I’ve never been much into historical fiction. I end up just getting annoyed with it.
Hooker may have had better supplies, but made even worse tactical decisions (see: Chancellorsville and his flank) Outside of Grant, the Union Army really had some imbalanced leaders. McClellan-great motivator, Hooker-great organizer, Meade-good tactician, but too slow, etc., and that really hurt them in the early going. Lee and Jackson just had their way with them. Hindsight is 20/20, but the war could’ve ended much sooner had they had their act together early on.
I’m not so sure its an issue of “imbalanced leaders” but really the fact that Lee was so good. I’m definitely not in the “Lee is infallible” camp by a long stretch, but the man was so good at finding a piece of ground and using it to his advantage because of his engineering background. Look at Antietam as an example…that is absolutely PERFECT piece of ground to defend in all aspects. The Army of the Potomac was also hurt by the fact that they had to bear the offensive aspects of the war, namely, their task was to bring the battle to the enemy, while the Army of Northern Virginia could just sit back and defend its turf as much as it wanted to. Combine that with the fact that the Confederates had a massive initial advantage in Cavalry for the first 2-3 years of the war, and its not so difficult to ascertain why so many Federal operations ended up failing.
And Grant is not infallible, not by a long shot. The Overland Campaign is a mess of a poor command structure, simultaneous unsupported attacks on too many fronts, and questionable tactical decisions (sending Sheridan after the Confederate cavalry, IX Corps as a separate command not attached to the Army of the Potomac).
Another thing on FB, though, that hurt Burnside was letting the troops loot the hell out of the town. I realize there wasn’t a lot you can do about that, but surely, he could’ve made some effort. That really pissed off the Confederates.
I think in warfare, especially city fighting, is that there’s kind of an “unwritten rule” that if you have to fight inside a city, you’re pretty much “entitled” to waylay the place. That doesn’t make it right, but if you’re in the position of those troops, you’ve been blasted trying to clear troops out of the place all day (the 20th Massachusetts lost something like close to 200 men between Faquier and Hawke streets), there’s probably going to be some sort of emotional response from the attacking troops, because there’s something physically there they can take their aggression out on. There’s not justification for it at all, but there’s a reason it tends to happen.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not so sure its an issue of "imbalanced leaders" but really the fact that Lee was so good.
That’s certainly true. Lee was one of the greatest military leaders of any age. Besides being an excellent engineer, he had a solid grasp of strategy and tactics that was probably unsurpassed. There was also the fact that, in my opinion, he had much superior subordinates for a long time than the Union. Jackson, Longstreet, Stuart, etc. were brilliant in their own rights. In fact, some people point to the death of Jackson as a sort of turning point. I don’t buy that completely, but it may have some merit.
Lee’s army had the option to defend, sure, but more often than not you see the defense by offense tactic, such as 2nd Manasass, Sharpsburg, and Gettysburg to an extent though that obviously backfired. That started to hurt him, though, with the loss of Jackson and the continuing dwindling of troops as the war went on.
As far as Grant, no, not infallible, nobody was, but he was able to put together a much more cohesive effort than anyone before him. They had a massive amount of resources, and he was able to make them work much better than McClellan, Meade, or whoever.
In relation to the looting, you’re probably right, I just can’t condone the actions regardless of the circumstances. War has its necessary evils, and that may well be one of them. Sherman’s strategy, though, is another matter…
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
It just wouldn’t be an American war if an offensive WASN’T star-spangled mess….whether it be in the Argonne, the Overland Campaign, or the Normandy campaign.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
Gordon C. Rhea’s books on Grant’s Overland Campaign are very good. I highly recommend them.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Francis A. O’Reilly’s book on Fredericksburg is EPIC. One of the best battlefield histories I’ve read.
I’ll have to check that out too, thanks
@yvonlabresmmoustache …Lately a lot of my reading has been on the American Revolution, I haven’t read much Civil War era stuff in a while, but I’m always interested in something new.
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I’ve been on a World War Two kick lately. Just finished Gregor Dallas’ book 1945 at lunchtime here for like the third time in the last year, and re read Rick Atkinson’s book on the North Africa campaign (I have to get the one he did on Italy).
Speaking of the American Revolution, I read a book on the Southern campaign not too long ago, The Road to Guilford Court House, that I found enjoyable.
I learned a lot from Washington’s Crossing by David Hackett Fisher, in terms of how much the guerilla war in New Jersey contributed to Washington’s victories at Trenton and Princeton
I also enjoyed Richard Ketchum’s book on Saratoga
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
I polished off Chernow’s biography Hamilton. It was good, if perhaps it was a little over-stated that Hamilton = good and Jefferson/Adams/anyone who disagreed with Hamilton = bad. I’d still recommend it though.
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I’m always interested in that Hamilton/Jefferson feud….you could make the case that it was STILL going on in the lead up to the Civil War.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of the American Revolution, I read a book on the Southern campaign not too long ago, The Road to Guilford Court House, that I found enjoyable.
Thanks for the tip, I’m gonna check this one out.
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I’ll watch that darn American Revolution documentary miniseries on the History Channel narrated by Edward Herrmann every time its on.
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
So I've been thinkin'
If we’re going to continue with the daily OT threads (which I fully support), this place should have a name. How about the Wild-Ass Way Off Topic Area? Otherwise known as WAWOTA, home of Brooks Laich.
Other name suggestions?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
And the soup of the day is whiskey.
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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it was bourbon?
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it was flavored vodka.
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No need to limit their options. The cool kids drink whatever they can get their hands on. I think I can get some sambuca from my parents cabinet…
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I just finished reading The Merchant of Venice night before last, and started on Measure for Measure last night on a bit of a Shakespeare kick… anybody else ever read either of those shows?
The Merchant of Venice would be difficult to produce for a modern audience, due to its flagrant anti-Semitism, but Measure for Measure, despite being categorized as a dark comedy, seems like a fun show to direct. I have, for a very long time, wanted to direct King Lear, as it’s not often seen on stage around here; it seems like anyone who does Shakespeare goes for “The Scottish Play,” Hamlet, or Much Ado About Nothing and ignores the less-often-performed shows.
The big exception to this is The American Shakespeare Center (formerly known as Shenandoah Shakespeare Express) – this season, they’re doing Twelfth Night and Henry IV, Part 2 as well as three non-Shakespeare plays (Doctor Faustus, The Alchemist, and The Roman Actor). I have not had a chance to watch them in action for a couple of years, but the last two shows I saw them put on were superbly done.
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the sakespeare theatre in DC does almost all of his plays at some point, I read most of them and performed a few when I was in highschool. One reason King Lear isn’t seen on stage much is that it is probably Shakespeare’s best work of literature, but his worst play. Trying to come up with sage directions for it and actually performing it is a nightmare.
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You’ve got a point, but it can be done… the stage production that Olivier did just prior to his death was magnificent.
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
The perception of anti-Semitism in the play is overstated, IMO. It’s been performed pretty successfully to modern audiences and these days is usually staged as sympathetic to Jews rather than anti-Semitic. There is plenty of evidence in the play to suggest that Shakespeare was playing to his audience (England at the time being rather anti-Semeitc) rather than necessarily being anti-Semitic himself.
If you’re looking for a great place to watch Shakespeare (and other plays from the period), check out Blackfriars playhouse in Staunton, VA. I saw The Taming of the Shrew and Romeo and Juliet there when I was an undergrad at JMU and both were very well done.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 18, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Blackfriars Playhouse is the home of Shenandoah Shakespeare Express / American Shakespeare Center. They’re INCREDIBLY good! I’ve seen them do Shrew and a couple of other shows. Loved it. :-)
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, ok, I was wondering if that might be the case. That’s probably why American Shakespeare Center sounded so familiar.
Wasn’t the production of Shrew great? They do comedies especially well, IMO. The level of audience interaction is great, too.
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by The Ghost of Bebop on Feb 18, 2010 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Oh lord yes. I adored their Shrew! The way they handled Kate’s soliloquy at the end of it was epic funny. (I hope we saw the same production, LOL!) She comes out on stage making fun of the men, grabs her husband’s hat, slams it onto her head, and comes out with “Fie, fie! unknit that threatening unkind brow, And dart not scornful glances from those eyes, To wound thy lord, thy king, thy governor…” and it’s all in a tone like a man’s doing the talking. Every woman on the stage realizes it for what it is, and every man on the stage is sitting there nodding his head in agreement. It was GREAT! I about fell outta my seat laughing.
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I don’t know that it’s overstated; it would depend largely on how you choose to portray Shylock. He’s a bastard, to be sure; if you emphasize that he’s a bastard in the first place, and de-emphasize that he’s a Jewish bastard, it could be done easily enough.
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 18, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with your opinion of Merchant. I’ve always seen it well performed and well received.
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I think it’s interesting to review commentaries on the show from the 1970s versus today, as well. The single-play copy I have was published in about 1974 or so, and the commentator does heavily emphasize the anti-Semitic aspects of the show. With that in mind as I read it, those aspects did come through loud and clear. But I can see ways to stage it to downplay those aspects as well.
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Avoiding Merchant of Venice because it’s anti-Semitic makes as much sense as avoiding Othello because it’s racist, I think. They are both good plays with a lot more great language/drama to offer than off-putting ideas.
Directors should produce them to show off the plays and make audiences think and spark useful dialogue. If they shy away from the plays because of the icky bits, they’re helping further bigotry in some small way by allowing bad ideas to prosper unchallenged.
(Oops, where’s this soapbox come from?)
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know, but I rather like it. :-)
Speaking of Othello, have you seen the 1995 Laurence Fishburne / Kenneth Branagh film version? I thought Branagh was superb as Iago, and Fishburne did an incredible job in the title role.
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I haven’t, but it’s on my list to see. It could be the only Branagh Shakespeare movie that I haven’t seen yet.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
It’s really good.
I need to replace my copy of Much Ado, though; I haven’t seen it since my last move, which irks me to no end, because that was well done as well. Except for Don “Duuuuude” John. Sorry, I hate to say it, but Keanu Reeves has no business trying to do Shakespeare…
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Really, it was the only bad casting decision I saw. I liked Keaton’s Dogberry. :-)
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Hi everybody
This seem like a good time and place to introduce myself. I’m a college kid in South Carolina that got swept up by the excitement about the Caps while on an internship in DC last spring. I had always casually followed hockey, but after going to a game at the Verizon Center, I fell hard for the Caps.
I guess you can call me a bandwagon fan who grew into more; I’ve been to 2 of the 3 Caps games in ATL this season and have gotten my entire family following the Caps. I’ve been lurking here at the Rink since the playoffs last year and absolutely love the coverage and community here. It’s difficult to get streaming video on my campus network, so I often rely on you guys to give me info about the games as they happen.
I’m also a big baseball and Chicago Cubs fan, so expect optimism from my comments as they come. I’ll try to provide some snark as well. Looking forward to being more active in comments here!!
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Happy de-lurking day!
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Glad to be here and glad to know that there are a few fellow Cubs fans as well. It’s been a while since I’ve gotten to Chicago, but I always catch the Cubs when they come to ATL to play the Braves.
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Yay Cubbies! :)
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by IRockTheRed on Feb 18, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
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by YvonLabresMoustache on Feb 18, 2010 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I prefer to think of it as building up karma. Sooner or later, the Cubs are going to win 5 in a row
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by CapsfanCubsfan on Feb 18, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
That plane crash into the IRS building is about 5 miles from me (as the homegrown disgruntled “terrorist” flies)
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh jeez. I hope everyone you know is OK. FoxNews is reporting a injuries…
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Everybody is a “terrorist” these days. When everyone is a “terrorist” have the terrorists won or lost?
The interesting thing about those buildings (Echelon 1 thru whatever number) is a number of them are used as 3rd party training facilities, so there are probably people from all over town if not the country who happen to be right in that immediate area who just had their training interrupted.
Just heard my director’s son-in-law (and office-mates husband) Shane Hill has been injured to at least some unknown degree…
Here’s hoping it’s nothing serious and he gets released quickly.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Just a followup -
He’s being transferred to Brook Army Medical (Burn) Center in San Antonio with burns to his face and back. So it sounds like he got hit pretty good.
I’ve had a couple of friends go through there. The good news is that he’s in good hands.
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by Bald Pollack on Feb 18, 2010 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Per my brother
The guy who did it owned embedded art.
This manifesto is their webpage now:
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Wow, that was even more paranoid and delusional than I thought it would be
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Seems like this guy tried to scam the government and they caught him (don’t buy his bullshit “just investigating” excuse), had trouble finding a job for a while, and then lost his damn mind.
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Definitely lost his damn mind.
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It boils down pretty simple to me: he thinks we should all kill ourselves (preferably in a blaze of glory presumably) until the Congress starts passing bipartisan laws, big business starts playing nice with the little guy, the system is overhauled, everyone makes lots of money,
oh, and he gets his wife back too.
How many of us would be left alive at that point I wonder…
Stick v. Brick
So this argument, one for the ages, started over a year ago when Mrs. F&B was leaving work and saw two homeless men fighting. One had a brick, and one had a stick. She told me about it and asked which I would prefer. I said stick. Then we started asking our friends and relatives. So, what say you, Japers’ Rink Commentariat… stick or brick?
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The stick, after much discussion, has been ruled to be akin to a broom handle. You can break it in two to use as short spears, but must do so using your own power.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I’ll take the stick for the reach advantage. You could also stomp on the end of the stick and hope to get a near full-sized spear out of it. Think composite stick with blade broken off.
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That’s a new twist. It’s so crazy it just might work…
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I know, right? Another great improvised weapon is the broken CD.
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I have actually tried to stab someone with a broken CD. One of my best friends. Left a long scrape across his throat. It would have been gruesome. Aaaahh Jagermeister.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I can throw playing cards really well, and I cut one of my friends on the throat from across the room once. It was fucking hilarious.
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I used to be able to. Can’t anymore. I did cut a friend’s face with a card once. I’ve also broken skin flicking a penny.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Depends on the relative sizes, really. If we’re talking overgrown twig, definitely the brick. If we’re talking bo-staff type deal, stick all the way.
If you’re strong enough and fast enough, hitting someone with a brick is like popping them with a roll of nickels in your hand, only much worse. You’re gonna fuck your hand up something fierce doing it, though.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
bo staffs FTW
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
It helps to have great skills and an appropriately sized staff, for sure.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rimshot
Mine was a lame movie reference, so you win, definitely. Rec’d.
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by Chris Burton on Feb 18, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
You think it would fuck your hand up? I always assume a brick attack is made with the intent of hitting your foe with the brick rather than with any part of your body.
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Right, but to hold the brick, you’ve gotta use your hand. Bricks are pretty big and normally have sharp edges. You’re using your hand to propel the brick and there’s gonna be substantial resistance on contact. Whoever you’re hitting is going to be way worse for the wear than your grip/hand, but it’s not something to overlook.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions
Makes sense. But if you hit somebody hard enough with the brick to fuck up your own hand in that way, you’re going to need a really good lawyer. Because you just killed a motherfucker.
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Hahaha. Yeah, true. But if you’re homeless nobody saw or cared. And if you hold the brick openhanded and don’t swing it like a punch you can avoid most of the pain to your own hand.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
If you hit him in the head, yeah, he’s gone. You can take a solid swing at the shoulder or back and just break some bone, though. At that point you’ve effectively won the fight anyway, though.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 2:52 PM EST up reply actions
See above, broomstick.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Stick all the way, then. Huge reach advantage and you can do some serious damage if you’re determined enough to stab with it. If you swing it like a baseball bat, you’re going to lose — opponent steps inside your swing, takes a light sting and then brains you with a brick.
I guess my stipulation requires enough space to maneuver, brick in close quarters.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t it have to be stick all the way? If you miss with the brick, it’s over. You have to get a KO on your one chance. Now if you had a unlimited supply of bricks…
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You could throw the brick.. high risk move, but could be a confrontation-ender.
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I was assuming your only real option is to chuck the brick. But it has to incapacitate/stun your opponent immediately so you can close in and knock his stick away. (This all assumes the two are even in hand-to-hand confrontation.)
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No, I assume most people wouldn’t throw the brick. You just swing it around and hope for contact.
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Never ever throw your only weapon.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Of course, along with knees, feet and elbows. But giving up your advantage for a one-shot throw that may result in your opponent getting your weapon isn’t a good idea.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
If the timing is right, it could be smart. If you’ve got a f—-ing rocket launcher for an arm like me or Kenny Powers it’s a game ender. Just don’t miss.
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Time would have to be hella right.
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by Knee high to a duck on Feb 18, 2010 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
Plus if you’re fighting a bum and you hit him with the brick, this has to daze him! Which gives you a split second to either:
A) attack him further
B) retrieve your brick
C) steal the stick out of his hands
Any of that is a game-changer.
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You could tie the brick to the stick and stickbrick that shit.
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Really? Admittedly I have zero street fighting experience, but I would have assumed that if your weapon was a brick, your logical strategy would be to rush the guy, toss the brick, hope the guy commits to a defensive posture and then tackle him.
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I would try to wait until the other guy takes a lazy swing with the stick then throw the brick at him while he’s momentarily defenseless.
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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 18, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Especially because I’m picturing fighting a half-drunk homeless dude.
Obviously if you’re fighting a black belt or something and he’s got the stick, you’re finished. But if it’s someone prone to make a mistake, the brick definitely brings more pain
"I'm glad I got drafted first, because no one remembers number two." -- Alexandre Daigle
This is why it has to be a worthy adversary. You don’t stand a chance against any black belt no matter what you choose, and some one else wouldn’t stand a chance against you.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I think it depends who you’re fighting – if you’re fighting the homeless guy in the alley you could take the brick. Let stickman swing and get off balance (because he’s probably drunk) and then throw your brick or swing it at his head. Call Mike Green, ‘cuz it’s game over.
However, if you’re fighting like a random mugger or even a friend, I would think the stick would be the #1 seed for distance’s sake to keep the other person at bay.
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We decided that for purposes of the discussion it must be a worthy adversary. Similar build, skill, and alcohol tolerance, you just get first choice of weapon.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Ohh geez. I think I’m taking the stick then. Brick is too high risk/high reward. Stick is steady
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So you’re Steve Yzerman…
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Haha, there really was no homeless people fighting afterall, was there?
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Brick all the way!
Bum rush the guy with the stick and take away their reach advantage, and all you need is one good monkey slap with a brick in your hand and it’s game over. Sure, you may have to take a shot with the stick, but if you are coming fast and are shifty enough you can make sure it’s not a crippling shot.
Plus, you forgot to mention that this is a fight to the death. So I’d be willing to sacrifice a painful blow in order to get the kill shot, and the kill shot is more likely with the brick than with the stick. For example, you could sacrifice one arm to block the blow with the stick and then swing at the head with the brick with your other arm. Sure, you may have a broken arm, but the other guy’s brains are being lapped up by the stray alley cats.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 18, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What a response. I still disagree, I could no doubt kill a man with a stick, but that’s some persuasive arguing.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Just gotta trip him, pin the brick arm down and throttle the donk with the stick.
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So many ways. Get on top and lay the stick across the throat and apply pressure, repeated blunt trauma to the dome, I could get it done.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Sure, you could kill a guy with repeated blows with a stick. But if these are worthy adversaries I don’t see this fight lasting more than one or two hits per person. And one or two hits with a brick is more likely to end the fight than one or two hits with a stick.
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 18, 2010 4:23 PM EST up reply actions
Next question: how much money would you pay to watch jordanDC (stick) go into combat against KillerCarlson (brick)?
My price point for that would be really, really high.
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Jordan has a pretty serious reach advantage, especially with the stick. But don’t count K_C out. He’s scrappy and he’s got that touch of goalie insanity.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
He's a goalie?
I’m out. He’s probably throw salt in my eyes or some shit.
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I’ve had this argument a couple of times…
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by Killer_Carlson on Feb 18, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
This sounds like a fantastic drunken debate. One of my favorite pass-times in college. It’s similar to Bonham vs. Pert drummer debate. I would take the stick for the record.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 18, 2010 7:01 PM EST up reply actions
It really is great. People get so worked up. One of my friends has lots of camcorder footage of people getting way too passionate about their position.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I know exactly what you mean. I had a debate about Do the Right Thing with one of my friends while he was wasted and I was not. I was blatantly making things up and bullshitting him the whole time. He knew I was, but he couldn’t help but to get worked up about it.
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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 18, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
You’re welcome.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
For what? Without me you’d never have heard of stick v. brick.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
And I highly doubt this conversation would have been brought up here today without my comment.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 18, 2010 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else sick of that choke artist USA men’s curling captain? What a hack.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I’m sick of fucking curling after what happened to the Sweden game last night.
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Yeah, that’s annoying. Curling should be relegated to the daytime. Right after I wake up until hockey started. I still think it’s the most interesting non-hockey event going on.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Yeah, it’s interesting as hell and I enjoy watching it. But it needs to stop right before hockey starts.
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Agreed. I’m also not 100% sure how they work the scoring yet.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
You get a point for each stone touching the target, but only if one of your stones in closest to the center at the end of the game.
I THINK.
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I THINK it’s that you get a point for every stone on the center target, and then every stone that is closer to the middle than any of the opponents’ stones.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
The stone that’s closest to the center earns one point. If that same team (Team A) has other rocks closer to the center than any of Team B’s rocks, each of those Team A rocks also earns a point. I think that means you can get anywhere from 1 to 8 points in an end.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Team B can’t get points though, right?
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Right, only one team will earn points in an end.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Personally...?
I’d like to see Olympic Caber Toss…
Now there’s a sport for REAL men. :-D
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what i don’t understand is nbc ignorance in handling the curling situation the early afternoon block is 3 hours which unless the game goes into an extra end is enough time but the late afternoon game starts 2.5 hours before the hockey game which isn’t enough time because each team has 73 minutes to throw 10 ends so that is 2 hours and 26 minutes but each team has 2 timeouts which adds so many extra minutes to the game. Why don’t they just start curling 3 hours before hockey even if they miss the first half hour of the game because from what i have see of this curling fun it doesn’t even get too interesting til the last few rounds. The only answer that I can think of is NBC sucks
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Wow, John Scheuster is definitely going to be found hanging in the closet tomorrow. How many times does this asshole get to blow a game? Are they done yet?
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Did he get winded or something? He looks more like he should be on King of Queens than in the Olympics.
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Well… it’s curling. The action starts on one knee and he’s not a sweeper. I think he can handle it.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
The Rink going political?
Saw this in the “What We’re Reading” and trying to figure out why it’s there. Does Rush hate Russian hockey players?
Another off-topic topic from another thread...
Mozart’s requiem is my absolute favorite piece of classical music. It was however completed by other composers after he passed away. It is still a suitable analogy though, as there are many characteristics throughout his work that are distinctly Mozart.
You can, however, tell exactly when Mozart stopped composing and others picked up the ball. The Requiem is an incredible piece of music, but I have yet to forgive my voice teacher for the phone call I got drafting me in to the alto section… I got one rehearsal, sight read the damn thing on Wednesday, and did the performance on Friday.
When I made mention of this to the baritone soloist, I thought his eyes were gonna pop out of his head. :-)
I’m just glad I’m a decent sight reader… :-)
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When I listen to it on my MP3 player, I still hum along with the alto part. Performed it on two separate occasions, I think.
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by CapitalCentre on Feb 18, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, you can definitely tell what is Mozart and what is not. One of the composers who completed the score worked with Mozart while he was still alive, so it’s debatable how accurately it follows his vision. We’ll never know, but I still love it.
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