Recap: Senators 6, Caps 5
by Becca H on Feb 11, 2010 10:36 PM EST
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It just doesn't get much harder than this. Heading into the second half of back-to-back games while being on the road is tough; it gets tougher when dealing with dual letdowns of having an historic winning streak snapped last night, in overtime, after yet again clawing their way back into a game. It's an explanation for why the Capitals came out as flat as they did - but certainly not an excuse. Not even close.
However, if you're looking for a microcosm of tonight's game, look no further than the man wearing #28 in white.
Because this game had everything that frustrates us - and amazes us - about Alexander Semin, with the inconsistent goodness scattered pretty evenly throughout the lineup. There was the sleepwalking and the power, the offensive skill and the undisciplined play. We want this team following the lead of a Russian guy named Alex...but maybe they should stick to the guy wearing the 'C'.
Ten more notes on the game:
- So about that Semin guy - quite possibly the most frustrating player to watch in the history of mankind, and this game was just one more reason why. He looked positively disinterested for most of the first period (although so did his team), then scored two quick and nasty goals in the span of about five minutes before polishing off the hat trick in the third. The only thing he didn't do was take a penalty.
- The Senators may have the league's worst power play, but even a 24th-ranked penalty kill should be aware anytime someone as dangerous as Daniel Alfredsson is on the ice. Alfredsson strolled completely unharmed into open ice and the result was a goal - even if it was one that Varlamov will absolutely want back.
- What was Semin doing on that first Jason Spezza goal? For that matter, what was Tyler Sloan doing? Hell of a shot by Spezza, but again, he shouldn't have been allowed to take it.
- For the first time in quite awhile, the top line of Ovechkin, Backstrom and Knuble was kept pretty quiet. They finished the night with just one assist and 4 shots on goal, although Knuble's rear end certainly deserved an assist for providing a screen on Schultz's tally.
- A huge reason for that quiet night, of course, was the fact that Anton Volchenkov was on the ice just about every time 8-19-22 was. He is nothing short of an elite and incredible shot-blocking machine, a shadow whose body and stick made certain Ovechkin was nullified and his linemates silenced. Volchenkov had 11 of Ottawa's 29 blocked shots, including most (if not all) of the 8 that Ovechkin had blocked. The Caps, meanwhile, had just 4 blocked shots total.
- Usually when a team only takes two penalties it's a good thing, particularly when facing the League's worst power play. But Brendan Morrison's infraction late in the first was an unnecessary offensive zone call and Ovechkin's was one of the dumber ones he'll ever take, whistled for interference as he "innocently" shoved Fisher's stick away from him on the ice. And oh yeah, the Senators and their League-worst power play scored on both.
- Tomas Fleischmann's evening was less than spectacular, to put it mildly. He scored on a weak shot but was on the ice for all four even strength goals by the Senators, finished a -3 for the night and was 2 for 11 in the faceoff dot - the only Cap to win fewer than 50% of his draws.
- The rationale behind the Erskine-Sloan pairing probably went something like this: okay, they're going to mess up so it's better to limit the disaster to one out of every three defensive pairings and not spread it around. Maybe a good idea in theory, but in practice it was scary. And awful. And scary awful.
- Semyon Varlamov hasn't played at the NHL level in awhile, so a little rust early on was understandable - and when he came up with some huge, timely stops in the second it seemed like he'd returned to form. But then the third period happened...ouch. Still, good for Bruce to keep him in there all game; the only way to shake off the rust is to play, and it certainly didn't feel like the Caps were going to win this one early on anyway.
- Hey, Jeff Schultz scored! What a rocket of a shot for the ol' double nickel, eh?
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I still think Knuble’s butt needs its own stat line. His butt in the crease creates magic.
I have a C on my heart.
by boutros23 on Feb 11, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Three goals, two stars, one train to Loserville
And that Volchenkov fellow. His stats look terrible. What’s all the fuss about?
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Steak or Lobster, Sasha?
What’ll it be?
Can you redeem these in the Olympic Village commissary?
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Inspired Choice ...
The star selector picked absolutely the right guy for the first star. Volchenkov was the epitome of the shut down defenseman last night. He was outstanding in a field of defensive mediocracy…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 12, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
I think it’s pretty obvious at this point that BB needs to remove the ‘C’ from Ovechkin’s chest and give it to someone else. They had a nice little run there for a while after he was named captain, but the experiment is clearly a bust…
Your snarky makes me giggly
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
But seriously, it’s time to have a frank discussion about the viability of Flash at C moving forward. His weakness in the dot led directly to Ottawa’s second goal and he appears to be getting pushed around.
Frankly, I think he needs practice. He’s okay at home.
He’s capable, and I think given some one-on-one time, he’ll get better.
I have a C on my heart.
yeah taking face-offs require a lot of skill and practice
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Think how long it took before even a natural center like Crosby was even decent at them.
I look to the future because that's where I'm going to spend the rest of my life.
Exactly what I was thinking of. Bylsma did one-on-one with him to get him to focus. It worked.
I have a C on my heart.
I’m not giving up on Flash as a C as yet. He’s certainly underperforming right now but his lapses are fixable.
what about boyd? isn’t he listed as a center and pretty effective at face-offs?
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Gordon’s a very good faceoff guy; problem is, so is Steckel and neither one of them is skilled enough to play above the fourth line. So we keep two of our best faceoff guys on one line and then…we have Flash.
He can improve, though. We’ll see what happens at the Olympics, this whole nutty thing started partly because he was going to be played at center for the Czechs and Bruce thought it couldn’t hurt.
yeah the return from the olympics could prove us all wrong but i have a soft spot for the 4th line I just love them all
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Oh, same. I have such love for third and fourth liners in general, and the group we have right now is among my favorites. I adore Boyd Gordon, more than is probably normal :P
Gord Boydon!
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been real happy with Gordon’s play since he returned. His skating is back and that makes a ton of difference with him. He’s still smart and defensively responsible but now he can just do more. Has he had any of those terrible PIMs of late? I can’t remember any.
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definitely four steps up from Laing
not just the goals, but as you pointed out, the overall play.
by DonnieKnutts on Feb 12, 2010 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
not that I recall (about the PIMs) and i’m always rooting for gordo to score a goal everytime he touches the puck
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
The upside is that he is supposedly playing center in the Olympics, last I heard at least. Hopefully he can get some good faceoff practice in while it doesn’t affect the Caps.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Faceoff %: Flash 45, Nicky 49.5. Not too big a difference, especially taking into account how long each of them is a C. He’ll learn.
but nicky is consisent ome and away flash needs some away practice cuz he sucks away but usually kills it at home
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
True but the downward trend in recent games is worrisome. We’ll see what happens. Worst comes to worst they can obviously survive with the current group of forwards, but it’s worth exploring as an area of improvement.
A trend may be misleading, especially if the statistical sample is too small. It’s like Ovi was scoring incredibly few goals in third periods until January but then caught up. Yes, there’s a trend but again, he’s a C for a couple of months only. And of course, his faceoffs need improvement indeed.
There’s not even a trend really. It’s been up and down.
53% vs. Boston
27% vs. NYR
47% vs. Atlanta
48% vs. Pittsburgh
21% vs. Montreal
18% vs. Ottawa
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Geez, there’s not even a home/away thing going on there (I don’t think), although he’s definitely worse on the road.
Tougher draws on the road, obviously, but I remember that being a problem when he first moved to center, too – first couple of games were at home and he was good, then we hit the road and his numbers slipped.
well the only good away game he had was boston. Atlanta and pittsburg were the only home games it is obvious that his road draws are horrifing
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
i’ve been in the background just reading for the most part cuz i dont have too much hockey knowledge but i only joined the party like a month ago i think
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
You’ve done better than most at chipping in. Keep it up, you’re golden. Join the Rabbits!
I have a C on my heart.
well i learn form the best you all are awesome
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
So you weren’t scared off after lurking?
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More road games:
38% at NYI (Jan 26)
69% at Pitt (Jan 1/21)
33% at Florida (Jan 13)
32% at Atlanta (Jan 12)
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Tomas Fleischmann’s evening was less than spectacular, to put it mildly.
-3 on the night with a -11 Corsi rating. Not to mention on of the losses in that 18% faceoff percentage led to an immediate goal against. No bueno. I wonder how much longer the Flash at C experiment will last. We shall see. Bruce ripped the defense and the goal tending in his post-game presser, but his golden child had a pretty poor game.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Flash’s TOI tonight was 12:50, last night 20:04. Tonight was his lowest TOI of the season. So the good news is, Bruce definitely noticed.
"I broke my face," he said. "Ran into Brendan Shanahan. You can Google it."
I thought I saw Brendan Morrison doing double duty, which I guess is why he ended up a +4 on the night.
Flash is and has been a bottom 3 guy on ES GA/60 for the last three years. We may like him being a de facto option at 2C, but the fact is that he needs a defensively responsible “come to Jesus” moment for him to keep that spot.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 12, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions
I almost used that one – but it looked like Flash got the better of Neil and I was going for a “Flash was bad tonight” thing ;)
Doug Henning lives
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
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Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2010 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
So while the Caps were one of the last teams to have a hat trick this season (the last maybe? I don’t know the stats), they now have a hat trick 3 games in a row.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Semin tore Kuba and Picard apart tonight
Those two defencemen looked awful. Kuba was on the ice for every goal of both teams, save Kovalev’s goal. He had three assists, but was still awful.
by Peter Raaymakers on Feb 11, 2010 11:09 PM EST reply actions
Semin tends to make even the best defensemen look like morons when he’s on his game.
I have a C on my heart.
He does at that. He and Kovalev are actually very similar in that regard, right down to the stretches where they look disinterested.
Naturally I love Kovalev just as I love Semin…I’m a sick woman.
Totally. Semin = Young Kovy. This is why we only resign him to one year deals until he becomes Older Lazy Kovy.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can you give us Anton Volchenkov already?
I have a great nickname for him.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
He already has many nicknames
And I hope he stays in Ottawa.
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Is it just me or has it gotten really ‘Intense’ around here today?
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Last night was pretty unbearable. I left early.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I really don’t get it. 14 wins in a row (no matter how they got them) and two, TWO losses, Then people head for the ledge. WTF. How about some confidence and maybe some perspective?
I have a C on my heart.
by boutros23 on Feb 11, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
we’re way too spoiled insanity errupts when there are back to back losses
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I think it’s a combo of us being spoiled and many of us starting to go a bit stir-crazy. No wins and too much snow make Rink Rats/Rabbits go…something something.
That ok. Everyone with have a “Happy Valentine’s Night”.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
As PPP pointed out last night. We just won 14 straight games. The Leafs have won 19 all year. Perspective indeed.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Good god. . .poor Toronto
I think we are all tense about the Play-Offs. They are getting closer, and no one here wants to see this kind of Defensive play in April. Honestly, I think it is Cup or Bust
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah we need to improve defensively. No doubt. But I also don’t expect to see (knock on wood) alot of games where we have Sloan and Oisk as a pairing also.
Actually that move to sign Sloan to a 2-year deal irks me more and more as each game he’s in passes.
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 11, 2010 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
For sure, all the conditions for a bad defensive game came to fruition.
Yeah. That is really pissing me off, i dont ccare how much they inked him for, he needs to be moved to AHL RIGHT NOW. It isn’t like he is just a nonfactor, not doing anything well or doing things to hurt us. . .he is a straight up poison to this defense.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
It really baffles me why the Caps constantly play Erskine and Sloan over Alzner. Erskine is a little more understandable, but I see absolutely no reason to play Sloan over Alzner.
Alzner is already better, and even if he makes the same mistakes at this point he has a higher ceiling than Sloan, who is what we thought he was (an AHL level D man). Alzner isn’t going to learn the NHL game by sitting in the press box or playing in Hershey.
Jettison Sloan to anywhere that isn’t D.C. and let Alzner learn.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Amen. Bruce Boudreau is a good coach, Goeorge McPhee, a good GM. THEY HAVE to see this.
Is there any possibility that bringing Alzner up would hurt our cap space?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
It would take away more space than Sloan, but since Nylander hasn’t been a cap hit for a few months it wouldn’t stop the Caps from making an upgrade come March 3rd.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
Word. I have to think BB or GMGM have something in the making. Maybe they are gonna trade him away as a 7th or 6th liner for a team as a part of a big package deal they have in the works.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been thinking that GMGM wasn’t going to do much if anything by the deadline( maybe a tweek). Now I’m not so sure he won’t.
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
On a related note, does anybody know if there is a clear upward or downward trend in trading during Olympic years? Seems like all of the GM’s will have 2 weeks to chat out some deals to me.
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, i dont know why all of the pundits were freaking out about the day before the oympic freeze. the GMs can just get all their trades in order over the two weeks and then make it happen the days after the games
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Well they don’t want to get outfoxed by some other GM at 2:59pm tomorrow.
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GMGM seems like a foxy guy, i think he’ll do the outfoxing!!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I don;t want him too cause I love the team., save a few players who we all hate.
But we’ve got the ultimate club landscape for a trade. Brilliant prospects, an overflow of forwards, 3 goalies, cap space, a slight vitamin- D deficiency, and a Cup to win
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
i think it would be hard for him to tweak too much seeing as most teams are still in possible play-off contention. It seems to me the people who are on the market either are not much of an up grade or are too expensive
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I feel the same way. As McPhee is fond of saying, and it’s true, it takes two teams to trade. It’s easy for us to say the Caps need this, the Caps need that – but where are those pieces and how much do we have to give up to get them?
Right now the only logical option I can see is Hamhuis in Nashville, which would be a good one. But that leaves the centers, and I don’t see a lot of affordable, available centers that would fit.
I have been thinking of what centers are available for each team out of contention at the current time and it’s not easy to think of any. I did throw out StL’s Patrick Berglund as a maybe tonight
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 12, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Would he be suiting up for the Caps on Saturday?
Awk-ward.
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I always wonder if it is awkward for the traded players when they meet their former teams do they lookover after they loose longingly like i could be over there
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
According to Mike Knuble, you always want to beat your former team.
And he should know, he’s got like four former teams.
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Poor Mike Sillinger..before he retired he must have been running out of teams he didn’t want to beat
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 12, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
exactly what Brash was feeling earlier this year
i remember posting that… he had such a forlorn look at the buzzer, looking over at the Caps celebratory bench.
by DonnieKnutts on Feb 12, 2010 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
This is true. . .I feel like Hamius would be a very appropriate trade for both Nashville and us.
I am just worried that we will end up dealing away people that i rly like though, just like the Clark trade
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
I loved Clark – but Chimera has really grown on me. It’s a tricky thing because I’m sure you, like me, are pretty fond of most of these guys. The curse of the likable team, right? I don’t want to see any of them go away.
Well…maybe not ANY of them…
Hah, certainly. I definitely have grown to be very fond of the team. And Chimera has grown on me as far as performance, but still has to fill the void of Clarkie, which is a bit of an unfair expectation.
I dont tend to speculate about trades because I have no idea what the other teams want
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
This is why I hate the current points system. It creates fake parity. Teams that are 5 points back think they are still easily in it, but when the teams ahead of them have a good chance of at least gaining a point, it’s damn near impossible to catch them in the playoff race at this point.
That’s why I want them to go to a 3-2-1 point system. I’d imagine it would make it much clearer who’s in and out of the playoffs and wouldn’t create this fake parity.
The parity may make for interesting marketing and races down the stretch, they probably decrease trade activity around the deadline and that is far more interesting to me.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Speaking of trades, here are the teams that had scouts at EDM-LA:
CHI, NYR, TOR, CBJ, BOS, DAL, ATL, PHX, DET, STL, PHI and VAN
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I was JUST about to comment on that! Second game in the last few nights where I’ve heard there are a bunch of teams’ scouts in attendance and we’re not one of them.
I can’t help but think either we know exactly who we want…or we’re just not planning on making a big move unless another team approaches us first.
All scouting Souray in the press box.
I’ll scout Moreau on my own time.
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They can scout Souray all they want – I can save them time, though. A big body with a huge shot from the point, a good power play quarterback and a defenseman with very little defensive ability.
Oh, and he’s injured. Oops.
…mmmmmMoreau.
Becca has scouted Moreau alot on her own time too…cough cough
I mean clap clap
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 12, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Penicillin will clear that right up.
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by Rob Parker on Feb 12, 2010 2:15 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Errbody wants Simmonds, Kopitar, and Frolov
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah well good luck with that, errbody.
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Now, I’m certainly not privy to the details of LA’s front office but I am confident saying, I KNOW Kopitar is not for sale.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 12, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I always end up thinking Kopitar is someone other than the Anze fellow who is like 21 years old. And one of their franchise guys
I vcommonly think he is Frolov, and the other way around, then get them completely cunfused with other people
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
hah yeah. I don’t think anyone is gonna get much from LA. They are a pretty complete team
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I liked the parity thing when we were one of those teams…but it’s annoying that beyond mediocre teams are still considered “in the mix” because everyone is so close in points.
No way should some of these teams think they’ve even got the smallest chance at the postseason. And I say that without snark. It’s frustrating!
Could it be that the year is soon coming that a .500 or less team makes the playoffs?
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
Probably not, because the phantom point serves not only to create “parity”, it also inflates point totals.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 12, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
Alzner was good tonight. There is no maybe about it, he’s already better than Sloan hands down.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I said he was better. He does make some of the same mistakes, just less frequently (at least that was the case last time I was able to watch). But Alzner also adds good plays, not just the crap that Sloan tries to pass off as NHL level D.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 12, 2010 3:47 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know what the big deal with the snow is. I’ve been banging away like the Energizer Bunny. Very productive.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Last night was a different type of intensity. I think a review of the visuals currently on the sight will give you a better idea of where I was going.
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by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’ll make sure and let my wife know that.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, now, just…incorporating tonight’s visuals into the thread, no need to get cranKY.
by Becca H on Feb 11, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I wasn’t. I was kidding. I’m rec’ing the way you worked in the ad sponsor into your post. SBN would be proud.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
True. The other one was easy like mine was. Your second one had a bit more creativity involved therefore it got the rec.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
damn spelling fail with the homonym. site not sight.
"You ever use smelling salts, every time you type a bad blog?" Brooks Laich
by Carl Putnam on Feb 11, 2010 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
that and being stuck in the house for days on end
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Losing two in a row after not losing in nearly a month will do that to do, being snowed in will do it and so will the overall intensity of the streak since it hit 10. We could all use an Olympic break.
It’ll be so ronery without games! I guess we can talk about project runway or something.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
I am still gonna log in errday prolly, just to check up on the team.
Are yall gonna log on for the Olympic games?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll keep the content going through the Olympics, but there’s always stuff to talk about here on the Rink!
Might need to put up some open threads for some of the bigger games or something, maybe organize a little informal gathering…I don’t know, have to talk to the boys.
Yay!! I am super-excited for all the Olympic stuff goin on. Can’t wait for the brilliant games on schej or more OT talk
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
I hadn’t seen a penalty for knocking someone else’s stick away all season, and now I just saw one for the second time tonight (EDM shot Handzus’ stick away from him to kill their own PP).
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2010 11:15 PM EST reply actions
wow EDM just doesn’t give a darn anymore do they?
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Well, in their defense the stick was laying there for a while and was in the middle of the passing lane so Potulny shot it out of the way. Handzus tried to pick it up earlier but then ignored it and played without it, so it was a bit of a questionable call. Not as dumb of a play as Ovechkin’s penalty.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 11, 2010 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
yeah okay but for the past couple of weeks that team doesn’t even seem to try anymore it’s sad to watch
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
They had 15 NHL scouts at their game tonight.
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haha alterior motives i see makes perfect sense now
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I’ve noticed in the last two games that Erskine has gone for a big hit along the boards in the D-zone, but he didn’t have the speed to make good contact and completely took himself out of the play. Each time it happens, there has been a goal against or a quality shot on goal. He’s leaving his partner out to dry in his own end. It’s quite frustrating.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 11:18 PM EST reply actions
Haha, I was going to say exactly that , but I deleted it so I didn’t seem like a Sloan basher.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Why not? Sloan shouldn’t be in the NHL, it’s perfectly reasonable to point that out.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I don’t disagree about Sloan, but I wanted to focus on Erskine. After all, there isn’t any defenseman who I would want left out to dry by Erskine. It’s just bad form.
"Dozens of people spontaneously combust each year. It's just not really widely reported."
by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 11, 2010 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
That’s why Erskine will never be more than a 7th D man on a proper NHL D corps.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 11, 2010 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
Very good observation. And last night Bradley had to go finish the job so he left a two on one out of what was a three on three and MON scored (IIRC). That’s one of my biggest problems with just looking at hits, or talking about physical D. Not all hits are equal, and it’s very easy to take yourself out of position hitting.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Yikes
Coach BB’s presser made the Channel 4 news. Coming up after the commercail.
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Sorta. Dan Hellie mentioned it but only showed game footage.
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Semin was amazing tonight
i’m kind of surprised to be reading negative comments about him “sleepwalking” or being “disinterested” tonight…but then again, not really surprised. He could probably score 6 goals and there’d be some jibes about that one shift where “he looked like he didn’t care.” Dude got faked out on the first goal but other than that, he was disciplined, focused, and gave his all. To my eyes, anyway. And I happily call out “bad Semin” when he’s bad Semin.
Without #28, this scoreline would’ve been the ugliest of the year.
That’s the truth.
It was still probably a good thing that the Laich/Flash/Semin line was broken up after 1st period. The productivity was definitely better.
That is a trio of good players but the combination of them on the same line was just not working — from a defensive standpoint. Losing faceoffs and being trapped in the D-zone.
Rocking the Red since 1975
I’m probably one of the most ardent Semin supporters, definitely among the writers, but during that first period he just wasn’t there. He failed to pick up Spezza which led to the opening goal and for the rest of the early part of the game he was either invisible or lazy. So was the team around him, but I noticed him not playing well, which I don’t always do.
The reason I single him out is because he WAS so explosive, though. Those three goals…masterful. And he almost had a fourth, and he picked up an assist to boot. He absolutely made the Ottawa D (and the goalie) look silly and was much more invested in the game, especially after the first one.
Since Ovie took over as captain, when he’s been “bad Sasha” he’s been more invisible, not causing problems; tonight was the first time in a long time I actually saw him coasting and saw it cause problems. That’s all. But I totally agree, without him this game is a rout, no question.
The effort level of the guys was a little bit higher than I expected tonight( they scored 5 goals). Of course, it wasn’t enough to win in the end.
What we have seen lately is that the defense needs constant work and coaching. A missed practice here and there makes a huge difference in how they play.
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
The Caps got next to no practice during the playoffs. In contrast, the Penguins, under Bylsma, did practice systems work and that type of stuff during the playoffs. Not uber hard practices during the playoffs but practice of some sort.
Bylsma probably had the right idea. While I consider Boudreau an excellent coach, I do wonder if Bylsma may be better. And that the Caps need to have practice on their systems.
Rocking the Red since 1975
maybe seeing how the team can fall apart on the D side without constant practice and enforcement will enlighten him to have a steadier stream in the post-season
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
And, post-Olympics, it may be time for Ovie to get his Captain on. The team has been on such a rocket ride.
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Great recap, Becca, as usual.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 11:40 PM EST via mobile reply actions
She is the only won who can instill in us hope and closure
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hmmm, yes. I feel kinda stupid =/
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
WTF IS WITH ALL OF THIS LOSING? WE’RE GONNA MISS THE PLAYOFFS AT THIS RATE!
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:46 PM EST reply actions
I had forgotten how it felt to lose, I don’t particularly care for it.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
DONT MAKE ME BREAK OUT THE PANIC BUTTON
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
We can hear the sound of the Panic Button being pressed.
Speaking of panic, the Olympic trade deadline is less than a day away. Then there’s the freeze on trades for the Olympics. And we play only one more game before the Olympics. And no more before the “real” trade deadline.
Would any deal we make be a panic deal?
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I trust GMGM won’t make a panic deal the day before the Olympic trade deadline. It’s not like we can’t make the same deal after the Olympics like kingzman noted.
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
woop woop
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Trade made tomorrow — panic deal (unless it had already been in the talk stage)
Trade made after Olympics — There’s time to think things over. Even though there’s only one game we can look at between now and then for figuring out what we need.
Rocking the Red since 1975
They’ve got the season to this point analyze what they need i think not just that one game
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
We’ll probably make the playoffs — no problem. Unless we lose ALL the rest of our games. That’s not happening.
(I know your previous comment was sarcastic.)
Rocking the Red since 1975
:)
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
You had me at no problem.
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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
this is all bad karma
the team deserves to lose after not announcing on washingtoncaps.com that tuesday’s practice was moved up 90 minutes. i took a 40 minute metro ride to ballston for nothing!
"My weapon isn't my shot. It's me." AO
by kingofdupontcircle on Feb 11, 2010 11:53 PM EST reply actions
That’s what Mike Green said.
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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you’re on a roll!
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
How many wind sprints should we have kingofdupontcircle do as a consequence for being late to practice?
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Somewhere between 1 and “Miracle”
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by what Juneau about that? on Feb 11, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
I believe it was mentioned on Capitals Insider — if I remember correctly.
So you and Green both failed to get the memo and were late for practice.
Wind sprints for you!
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funny, because when i looked, it was definitely on the website for 9am. saw it first on twitter, but i checked washingtoncaps.com as well.
"No Brooks Laich, no win. Know Brooks Laich, know win."
by kellobellow on Feb 12, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Heh. Team Russia, recognize.
http://twitter.com/ScoreOttawa/statuses/8991757374
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The Russians will always chat with the Russians. Specially since Ambassador Ovechkin is such a people person.
And Backis will always say hej to Lundy or Zetts.
#natureofthebeast
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It’s good to see they arent crushed after that loss.
Maybe they know that they need to change now and arent feeling too worried about the team, enough to go talk with fellow countrymen
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Or, maybe Ovie was doing a little Caps recruting for next year? ?? :)
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
Av-Club!!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
It was an Olympic meeting. At least three of those guys will be in VAN in a few days.
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I guess so. I r trying to be optimistic
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Can you imagine any player in the League who wouldn’t want to play with AO?
Maybe one.
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Hah, I assume its Mr. Crosby?
Other than him. . .
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. So apparently even for Volchenkov that shot-blocking total was way up there – from the Sens’ official Twitter:
Sens defenceman Volchenkov blocked a regular season career-high 11 shots tonight (tied playoff high set on 5/12/07 – courtesy Elias Sports)
I’m guessing the fact that Ovie shoots from anywhere and through anything probably had something to do with that, but…wowza.
Jelly. The man’s insides have been battered to jelly by now. And maybe a puck imprint or two. Jeez.
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He better hydrate properly on the fight to VAN from New York on Monday.
Just sayin’.
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Josh Gorges’ helmet is holding on line one.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 12, 2010 7:35 AM EST up reply actions
the man is a shot blocking maching!
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Gordie Howe was in the building. Gotta represent.
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*machine
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
This leads me to believe the Sens wont let this man go =/
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Not for a price the caps would be willing to pay.
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they love him in Ottawa..and who can blame them
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by Rather Bengt on Feb 12, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
hell i kinda love him blocking shots and sacrificing his body when we have seen over the past few weeks what damage some of our boys could do with the puck he’s the man too bad for us tonight but come on you gotta love that stuff
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Very true. However, he blocks shots the “saer” way if there was one. He uses great positioning, agility, and brilliant timing to get infront of shots and disrupt their path with the body parts he wants to or stick. Alot of the shot blocks that end up with a real bad result are often (not always) when someone tries to block a shot with desperation (4 points block where they lay down on the ice)
I am exhausted after mah own hockey game earlier today. . .had to double shift and play on like every PK and PP.. Had like 35 minutes on ice
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 12, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
thanks for the info didn’t realize it was so technical i see people desperately flailing around to block shots more often than not. As for your game at least you know your a valuable part of your team!
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Great points about Volchenkov’s shot blocking. What’s even better about his style is that he does dive and take himself out of the play on the follow up. You don’t him block a shot and then the other team getting a chance on the rebound while Volchenkov is sliding into the boards. Diving and sacrificing the body is sexier, but what he does is more effective.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 12, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
*he doesn’t dive. crap.
Of all our iniquities ignorance may be the worst
by Killer_Carlson on Feb 12, 2010 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
One more thought – is there any chance Team Canada feels any less secure in its roster choices after the showcase of defensive excellence demonstrated by the Capitals in these two games?
Me neither.
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Bruce deserves some blame for tonight
…having your first line play 25+ minutes the against MTL didn’t help out. Ovi wasn blanketed by Volchenkov, but it didn’t help that he was exhuasted from skating 29 minutes the night before.
Grimm's in. Jacoby's next?
true, but ov’s minutes in MTL were a direct by product of the team messing the bed in the first two periods. so while you can blame BB, if the players dont get behind so fast, then he could have rolled four lines and limited OV’s TOI.
He’s looking to win the game at hand. Given that they were on a win streak, I dont think BB was thinking that perhaps he should limit OV’s TOI (and therefore limiting the ability to win that game) in order to save up for the next nights game. the fact that this team is never out of a game no matter what the score means he’s going to continue to play his big boys until the final horn.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 12, 2010 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Skating any forward for 29 minutes/game for a regular season contest is downright lunacy. That said, I understand the need to “extend” the streak, so the MTL game was treated more like a playoff contest. Makes sense. But BB has to know what impact this decision will have on the following night’s game, and it clearly did.
Going forward, I would be shocked if BB continues the strategy of playing the big boys until the final horn. Not with a 10+ cushion in the East and his top forwards all playing Olympic hockey. If anything, BB needs to start paring down Ovi/Backstrom minutes to no more than ~20/game so that they’re rested for the playoffs.
Grimm's in. Jacoby's next?
agreed. he needs to start to instill more shift length discipline on his guys as well. it’s going to be a fine line between resting guys and making sure they dont coast into the playoffs ala last year.
Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...
by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 12, 2010 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
Observations from the Sofa...
1) I said it up above, but I’ll say it again, Volchenkov was the man tonight. He pretty much single handedly shut down Ovechkin and co. of course that meant…
2) Semin had an amazing game. The reason the Caps were able to still pot 5 goals against the Sens is that defensively their back line isn’t all that deep. Not an issue now, but it will be come April when the playoffs begin. I know Craig has 5 teams definitely in for the postseason in the East (Caps, Pitt, NJ, Buf, Sens) so that means one of those five (or more) won’t get to round 2. With their shaky D, it wouldn’t surprise me to see the Sens be the odd team out.
3) My wife is crazy… she told me to throw my hat when Semin got the hat trick. I don’t wear a hat at home. It was cool seeing some hats come out of the stands when he got his trick, though.
4) Varly was clearly not ready for tonight’s game. 2 AHL games and lots of practice does not make you ready to face Daniel Alfredsson and Jason Spezza. Spezza has a helluva shot, doesn’t he?
5) Nice shot placement by Schultz. If he keeps up this pace, he may end up with, what… 5 goals? Seriously, he followed up a so-so game vs. Montreal with a slightly above average game tonight…meaning he was the best on the Caps back line these past 2 games.
6) Enough of BMo is in a slump. He was +4 last night! Really!
7) The two penalties the Caps took… both were pretty dumb penalties. The two the Sens took were also pretty bad. In reality, there weren’t many penalties and it was a well-played game in that regard.
8) What is it with opposing teams having equipment issues in Ottawa? I mean, sure the equipment truck didn’t burn like Minnesota’s, but what was up with Green, Laich, and Fleischmann blowing out a skate more than once in the game? Did someone sneak into the Caps locker room with a tuning fork and tap some skate blades (that’s all it takes to damage an edge…)?
9) Kudos to Bruce for calling out the defense and goaltending tonight. Varly let in a lot of softies and the Caps didn’t block any shots. Elliot (the Sens goaltender) was no great shakes either, letting in that softy to Flash in the first…
Ah well, they can’t win them all. Let’s get one in St. Louis and then take a well deserved rest (for all but 5 guys…)
Let's go Caps!
BMo is in a slump. But he looked a lot better centering for Semin when Flash got moved down a line.
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I think he needs Semin more than the other way around, but definitely agreed.
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by bigonetimer on Feb 12, 2010 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
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