Recap: Canadiens 6, Caps 5 (OT)
by David Getz on Feb 10, 2010 11:14 PM EST
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It had to end sometime; we all knew that. In fact, we could see it coming and just about every one of the problems the Capitals have had over their last few games showed up tonight, and this time skill and a late comeback wasn't enough to overcome them. The defensive breakdowns were frequent and severe -- to a man the the defense corps was mediocre-at-best in the Caps end, the forwards weren't doing a ton, and the Canadiens wound up with 39 shots on goal. The team took penalties they simply didn't need to. Aside of Brooks Laich, the secondary scoring did next to nothing. And, of course, the team was playing catch up almost the entire night, giving up a goal just 36 seconds in.
In short, it was the loss we all expected, but not the one we hoped for and not the one this team deserved. When you're on a run like this, you hope to go down to a team that's simply better on that night; a team you can look at after the game and say, "That was a hell of game gentlemen. We gave it our all, but you simply bested us, and although our streak's over now I can't say you didn't deserve the two points tonight". The Caps will have a hard time doing that, and that's a shame.
But you know what? This last month of Caps hockey is something we're going to talk about for years, and even if it's over now, that's something pretty special.
Ten additional thoughts on tonight's game:
- No matter how I try to rationalize it or explain it away, I'm not able to come to terms with the fact that Alex Ovechkin's second period goal was waived off (video here). If the referees wanted to call incidental contact on the play and hence call no goal, that would have been fine. What doesn't make sense to me is that the referee who was less than ten feet from the play emphatically called a goal on the play, and yet the goal was waived off after a discussion among the officials. What could have possibly been said in that huddle to change anything? Oh well, at least at the end of the day one thing's certain: Alexander Ovechkin is a Grade A bad ass...
- A bad ass with supreme skill that is, as evidenced by his work (along with that of Mike Knuble, Nicklas Backstrom, and Mike Green) on Washington's second goal. Seriously, I can't even get the guys to make plays like that on my Xbox.
- Simply a superb night for Brooks Laich, who notched his first career hat trick, scoring three excellent and distinctly different goals: going to the net as is his specialty, with a laser of a wrist shot (off an excellent to decision to call his own name, despite the temptation to dish to Alexander Semin), and with a nifty move in tight that reminded me even grinders at the NHL level have infinitely more skill than I could ever dream of.
- A special shout out has to go to Jose Theodore who performed admirably coming in off the bench in what could be gently described as a "hostile environment". The scoresheet might not show it, but without Theo making some great stops, there's no way this game gets to overtime.
- It's kind of cool that Craig Laughlin likes to give the guys nicknames and try to connect with fans, but something tells me "Double Deuce" isn't going to work as a nickname for Mike Knuble.
- Rough night for Brendan Morrison, who was -2 with a pair of penalties and is now -5 with just one point (an assist) in his last three games and saw just 12:26 of ice time. If there's one guy on the Caps who looks like they need the upcoming time off, it's B-Mo.
- I understand the game went in to overtime, and I understand history was on the line, but I have to admit I'm still not comfortable seeing Alex Ovechkin skating 29:30 when the team has a game the following day, even if 9:24 of it came on the powerplay.
- I don't know if it's an issue of being the visiting team or if it was just a bad night, but if Tomas Fleischmann has many more outings where he only wins 21% of his faceoffs, he's going to become a liability at the center position.
- How porous was the Caps' defense? Coming into tonight's game Tom Pyatt had 18 shots on goal in 19 games. He had seven tonight. And that didn't even lead Canadiens players.
- On a final note, thoughts and prayers for Montreal's Josh Gorges, whose injury was about as scary an incident you're ever likely to see on the ice. Here's hoping we hear some good news on that front sooner rather than later.
The question now is: how are the Capitals going to respond to losing their streak? Are they going to come out with a vengeance tomorrow night in Ottawa and on Saturday against the Blues, or are they going to coast in to the Olympic Break?
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I won’t be surprised to see the Caps lose tomorrow night. They clearly really wanted this win, and the streak, and this loss has to be incredibly emotionally draining. If they had a day or two to recover, it would be one thing, but I don’t see them recovering in back-to-back games. I hope I’m wrong and they get back to the play that got them to 14 games to begin with, as opposed to the lazy play in the first two periods that got them to this loss, but I don’t see it happening.
I really think we might see this team, or at least the team’s Olympians coast into the break. As long as no one gets hurt, I’m almost ok with it.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not ok with it at all
Mainly because I live in Saint Louis and have tickets to the Blues game. I want a gorgeous Capitals slaughter! 7-1 Caps or something equally epic.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Ottawa had their streak snapped and came back to win their next game. The only concern I have about the Caps doing it is that it’s the next night, and they’re emotionally drained. But they can do it.
"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."
We are not Ottawa. Obviously, I hope we don’t just coast in, but I don’t see us playing our best game.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
I think of Randy Milligan and later Mike Mussina. (hate that guy)
have any of you people even seen a chicken?
by Ridley me this on Feb 10, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
What, exactly, are you talking about?
by mechanicsville on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
reply fail I’m new at this :-)
have any of you people even seen a chicken?
by Ridley me this on Feb 10, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
if varly plays, im gonna go out on a limb and say 4-0 caps
I've often thought of becoming a golf club
Ottawa’s no slouch; I’d presume (at this point anyway) it’s not going to be the blowout people think it is.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
I said in the period threads, but tonight was a “due” game. MTL had been doing pretty badly for a while, and we were due for a let down. It was an incredible comeback, but that game needed to be lost. Hopefully, they’re able to refocus and dominate a game not only in the 3rd period, again.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions
Sending nothing but love to Brooksie tonight. Great streak fellas!
by alright alright alright on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 PM EST reply actions
I think that saddens me more than the streak ending…I wish Brooks had nabbed his hat trick on a winning night.
by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
brooks hattied nabbed us a point
Without those 3, it doesn’t even go to overtime.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.
Gorges didn’t go to the hospital but was being observed by the medical staff.
Props to Joe B. for talking about Laich’s 2 on 1 possibilities in the first and seeing them pay off in the third.
Kinda perversely fun to write about a loss, huh? No challenge to put together content.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
Going back to AO’s slapper to Jack Hillen’s face @Islanders a couple weeks ago, one of the MSG reps tweeted that she saw him and he looked pretty good.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
What does Alessandra Ambrosia count as?
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 10, 2010 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure he’ll find a way to let it linger on his palate.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 PM EST up reply actions
Brooks, second star of the game and of the night.
First star in everything else you do.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
I don’t have a problem with Ovie’s goal getting waved off. I continue to have a problem with the fact that the rule that caused it to be waved off apparently wasn’t included in the rulebook that was issued to the refs in Game 7 of the Flyers series in ’08.
by Kevin O. on Feb 10, 2010 11:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have a problem with it.
DMG is spot on about it. I don’t really think they even went to the replay OR called up the Front Office in Toronto. Which leads me to believe, some ref(or refs) in that huddle really fought to wave off that goal.
If they had thought it was something with the rules, they would have called TO or checked the replay. This, my friends, was a direct call AGAINST Ovechkin and his style of play.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
In a vacuum, it was the right call. There is a rule in the books that essentially states that if a player from Team A hits a player from Team B such that it interferes with Team B’s goaltender stopping the puck, the goal is disallowed. I think you could make the argument that Price had no chance either way, but I think it was the right call. Much like it would have been the right call to disallow the goal the Flyers scored in 2008. Obviously, that’s irrelevant now, but I retain the right to be pissed about something that happened two years ago once I’ve had more than two glasses of whiskey.
I think it was Nate Ewell who said that one of the refs in this game (as well as the Pens game on Sunday) was designated as being a “minor league” referee. I don’t know if that essentially means “apprentice” or if it’s someone who is literally an AHL (or lower) referee, but I wonder if that has anything to do with some of the inconsistent calls.
This. The refs in the last few games haven’t been biased, just incompetent.
by Kevin O. on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Honestly, with the exception of the Ovechkin no-goal (Which he never touched, so it wouldn’t have been his), I don’t think the Referees were that bad at all tonight.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They did miss a blatant hold on Laich that would’ve set up a 5-on-3 which we didn’t end up needing and then there’s that rumor of an offsides on one of MTL’s goals.
Referees are always careful to not call something on a penalty killing team unless it’s terribly blatant . I wasn’t buying the hold. Also, offsides is a linesman’s call, not the referee’s.
We give the refs a lot of shit, but once we step back, yeah, it’s really not as bad as we make it out to be. Sometimes they didn’t earn it, and sometimes our guy did.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’m not complaining about it since we were already a man up but it actually was blatant. Gill was pulling Laich’s arm/sweater as he was fighting to get free and head towards the puck in the corner. And it wasn’t just one pull, it went on for a bit.
I kind of remember. I also remember thinking they were both holding each others’ wrists, and thinking it should be both or neither.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:51 PM EST up reply actions
That puck went in off AO’s foot. It would have been his but raised a kicking question.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I was 99% sure that it went in off of Hal Gill’s stick.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
And it looked to me like it was off Gill’s skate.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely off of Gill’s stick, which if anything helped solidify the case for it being a goal…
by Danny Burrito on Feb 11, 2010 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Missed the interference on the Habs 5th goal. Puck sailed over JT’s glove hand for a reason… he couldn’t lift it cause of the Habs stick.
I mean, you can nit pick all you like, but we got some beneficial calls too. The refs really weren’t that incompetent.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
The referees last night were Eric Furlatt (27), Kyle Rehman (37)
Furlatt has refereed 460 games.
Rehman is an NHL/AHL referee, and has reffed 17 NHL games.
Can anybody see the numbers on which referee is which in that replay?
If Rehman said goal and Furlatt said no goal, that I might buy. If the other way around no way.
I need a snappy signature...
Its an iffy zone in which the ref has a bit too much discretion. Which ever way the call goals, I think we need to freak out about that “ref huddle” for the reasons I listed above.
If they had called TO then i think they may have referenced the goal in 2008? but i dont know how the man works
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they can call TOR on something like that any more than they could have on Schultz’s phantom slashing on Sunday. Not to mention the fact that the 2008 goal was the clearly wrong call.
Yeah the philly call was abso insane.
I think they can if they reviewed it.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they can review interference calls (or in this case incidental contact calls), just whether the puck crossed the goal line or was kicked or hit with a high stick, etc. If they start reviewing interference/incidental contact it opens up a can of worms in re: reviewing other penalties that are up to the ref’s discretion.
But with one calling a goal, the other a no goal, you think they’d take it up with TO. Do the linesmen offer opinions and they’re the tiebreakers in such cases?
This.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
Again, i think it comes down to subjective (was it interference/incidental contact) versus objective (was it played with a high stick/kicked) that decides whether something can be reviewed. Much like in the NFL where pass interference can be reviewed because it’s the ref’s discretion versus whether a player is out of bounds, which is (or, should be) pretty cut and dry.
if it’s that important a referee that’s out of position should not be making that call. That’s twice now in two games that the neutral zone ref has made a call in our offensive zone going against us who has no business making a call like that. It’s sickening and even if it isn’t actually biased it opens up the doors for questions.
by snowburnt on Feb 11, 2010 6:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
the goaltender was on top of the puck but it went right through him. he had an opportunity to stop it but it slipped through. kind of like a play where the puck is banked off of a goaltender or defenseman or where the goaltender tries to sit on the puck and it squirts through underneath him. This is the reason why players hack at the goalie after he stops the puck, to make sure that he has it and if not, put the puck in the net, kind of like in knuble’s ot winner vs pittsburgh.
There is no rule that says that. The rule is rule 69 and it says that a goal is disallowed if “an attacking player initiates intentional or deliberate contact with a goalkeeper, inside or outside of his goal crease.” It is vague and can be interpreted different ways in the situation like last night. It certainly does not say that hitting an opponent into his goalie is illegal.
"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke
I think there’s verbiage in there that says that the contact has to prevent the goalie from being able to make a reasonable attempt to stop the goal also.
Yes, but only if the goalie is prevented from making that attempt by an attacking player, not his own player. It just doesn’t address the situation we had last night, which is why refs interpret it variably.
"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke
Props to Nate Ewell:
Overlooked on Ovi’s no-goal is the fact that Hal Gill is 6-foot-7, 250 pounds.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Ovie is a steamroller. I couldn’t believe that was Gill.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
Neither could Gill.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
by EmilyB on Feb 10, 2010 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Worst part about it is that the refs denied Ovie his right to another highlight reel goal.
I’m pissed i wont be seeing that shit on SC. I would love to here SVP explain to non-hockey fans what happend there
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
My baseless speculation:
the ref that called the goal said in the ref huddle " I was watching the puck and I didn’t see the player pushed into the goaltender and that’s why I called a good goal"
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
Meh. I say one some of the other refs swayed him
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
Would that not be part of the swaying process? :-)
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
Hmmmm. Perhaps
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I have no problem, as I really think it was due to having never seen anything like that before, and not sure how the hell to call it. Hopefully the league sends out a memo one way to the other to officials and coaches.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t have a problem with Ovie’s goal getting waved off. I continue to have a problem with the fact that the rule that caused it to be waved off apparently wasn’t included in the rulebook that was issued to the refs in Game 7 of the Flyers series in ’08.
Exactly. I expect an apology from the NHL by next Monday.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I don’t expect an apology at all.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Sorry, I meant what I “expect” as in “what I would like to see happen” as opposed to “expect” as in “what i think will actually happen on account of how every element of the NHL’s officiating from Colin Campbell on down is completely useless”. It was my mistake.
Gotcha~ Becca, I’ve now failed to recognize snark.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Welcome to the club, high five! And since that completes the trio and…somewhere in here we’ve devolved into talk of F&B’s procreation skills, I’m taking this as a cue to go to bed.
Especially since I don’t know if I have to work tomorrow or not.
Good luck.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Snark is not for everyone. If you are white, or a mage, or a Whiter Mage, then Snark may not be for you. Ask your doctor before using Snark.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I’m only two of these things. 66% chance?
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hm. Check with the FDA.
Oh, and side effects include ranting, playing JordanDC in NHL 10, and taking your pants off.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hard to take off what aren’t there.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
If any of these conditions last for more than four hours, please consult a doctor.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Well, you’re at an advantage there.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
off an excellent to decision to call his own name, despite the temptation to dish to Alexander Semin
I totally thought he was going to pass there. It’s the kind of thing he would usually do when Semin’s on his wing, and I remember thinking “Just shoot it, Brooks…come on”. And he did!
I actually kept thinking “He’s going to shoot, which sucks because he’s got Semin over there.” I’m glad he shot.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
What a game. It was a letdown, to be sure, but still, for the Capitals to even tie it up, much less push it to 7.5seconds left in overtime… Can anyone imagine this out of a pre-Boudreau team?
Congrats to Laich on his first NHL hat trick. He “promised” it to me two weeks ago when we talked at the Washington Auto Show, but better late than never, eh? ;)
On the backline Schultz got abused multiple times tonight.
Not that anyone was particularly good in the D zone tonight, but Schultz stood out (in a bad way) on multiple goals.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 11:24 PM EST reply actions
First time in a long time he’s been victimized for even strength goals…
Bah, trade him, he’s useless.
He’s lived up to his name!!!! 10 cents!!!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Ted's preemptive strike post, filled in by your truly.
You can’t win them all.
We had won 14 games in a row. It was a terrific stretch of hockey. But this is the NHL. Every team has quality talent and you can’t win them all.
Montreal played very committed hockey tonight. They out worked us and got a couple of lucky breaks go their way.
We seemed a bit emotionally drained and tired and a few mistakes were made. There was the game in a nutshell.
We are still playing well. Our record over the last 20 games is 17-2-1. We lead our division by 25. We are 1st in the East and 1st in the entire NHL. We have now scored 234 goals but tonight, we came up short.
We have miles to go before we sleep. We will do better. I promise. Thanks for your emails and critiques. Go Caps!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 11:27 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Yea, I thought yahoo was updated, my bad.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
Add one point to the division lead, and add the goals.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
And a point to the President’s Cup lead.
by mechanicsville on Feb 10, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
President’s Trophy would be awesome, but isn’t the one I want.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
True, but it does give you a leg up toward hoisting Lord Stanley’s Chalice.
by mechanicsville on Feb 10, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, statistically, but it’s not a certainty. One of them is clearly more valuable.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
And the pursuit of same could cause fatigue and breakdowns of both O and D in critical game situations.
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Isn’t President’s Cup a golf trophy?
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Calder Trophy = rookies. Calder Cup = AHL champs.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why I replied accordingly before tossing snark.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I know you did. I got what I deserved.
by mechanicsville on Feb 10, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions
It’s all good~
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions
For a second I thought you said shark….that would’ve been apropos.
by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I want Stanley, Conn Smythe, Hart, Norris, Prince of Wales, Art Ross, Pearson, +/-, and Rocket.
I R TEH GREEEDY
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
and teh Prez troph
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
Which one do you want the most?
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
He’s not going to play enough games to qualify, sadly. Also he won’t get enough points (It’s not the forward who’s the best defensively, it’s the best defensive forward who can also contribute at the other end).
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
Okay, you two are not allowed to comment back and forth anymore tonight – snark missing on both sides! ;)
I knew it was snark, I just wanted to run with it.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
It’s all good.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone is failing all over the place!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
Don’t worry, we’ll put it together for 13 minutes just before the end of regulation.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
WE DESERVED THE DAMN POINT! We tried really hard!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
LOOK AT ME TRYING
FUCK!
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU—
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
You don’t deserve shit in the NHL. You earn it. We only earned one point tonight, and a 60 minute effort would have earned two.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
This...
…is Sparta!!!!
(Sorry, couldn’t resist!)
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
As good as these guys are, I think a 20 minute effort would’ve earned them two points.
by mechanicsville on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree with this statement. We earned 1 point. If we won the game, I would point out the defensive holes we had, prolly wouldnt go so far as to say we didn’t deserve two points, however.
WM , i think it would be better to say like
NHL points aren’t yours until you earn them. (By earning something u deserve them, by not earning, u do not deserve)
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll buy it.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:07 AM EST up reply actions
After my line about Semin’s backchecking Friday, I can’t do much better than that.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Everyone is failing all over the place!
I’m nort.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
lol at either snark or hilarious irony.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:41 AM EST up reply actions
Speaking of whiskey, I’m going to pour some more beer out.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
Quint...
…needs the bigger boat.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions
Because we lost and it’s all his fault. Bring back Chimmey, the streak lives on!
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
I do think Chimera adds something that no one else adds on this team.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:09 AM EST up reply actions
Mythology
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I like the 4th line with Brads, Gordo and Steck.
3rd line with Bradley is not quite as potent, especially with the disaster BMo currently is.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Chimera just needs to loosen up and fire more. Deking is not our thing. I still think he’s getting used to a non-trap system.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not blaming him for this loss, I’m saying in general how I feel about him.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Remember back when we were all shocked by the fact that the BMo signing looked like it was gonna turn out to be better than the Mike Knuble signing? Good times.
I think he looks worn out. Hopefully this break will rejuvenate him.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Hope the rejuvenation includes less penalties taken, too.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Yeah. I think he’s lost the edge that he had earlier in the year. BMo hasn’t been known for his speed, and I think other teams are taking advantage of that.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Well the top 3,
1) Stanley
2) Stanley
3) Stanley
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Might as well throw Byng in there while you’re at it.
by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Ovechkin winning the Lady Byng would cause Don Cherry to have a stroke.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you know who wont win the lady bing.. Ovechwin
have any of you people even seen a chicken?
by Ridley me this on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
Or me.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions
At the end of the season maybe we should do a Rink award ceremony just for fun, haha. Give out awards to ourselves!
I semi-plan on doing this for the JRHL folk.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I’d get the worst in the league award, AKA Taylor Hall!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
You’re just hoping to get the ceremonies going so you can get nominated for a Jack Adams of the Rink Award.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Just to lose to Alz Well? He clearly outcoached me that game. I don’t really need that recognition.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Please, if he hasn’t already had a seizure looking in the mirror, he has to be invincible.
by Kevin O. on Feb 10, 2010 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Rec’ing this.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
His clothes would catch fire
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
Spontaneous Human Combustion. Solid theory.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
If Ovie won the Lady Byng, I wouldn’t rule out this theory of instant flaming fury.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
And AO’d go right up, too, being made of 95% Pure Russian Vodka.
by DrinkingPartner on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Only to somehow control this fire and go on to be NHL players by day, superhero by night
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Well let me correct that. . .
Superhero by day, on-fire superhero at night
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly.
Droppin bitches Hall Gill villians Sidney Crosby anyone who gets in his way durin the day and night
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
Ted’s preemptive strike post, filled in by your truly.
On a related note, if you’re happy and you know it, send an email.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Was that the first hat trick by a Cap not named Ovechkin or Semin since the lockout?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
ah good call. Back in 06.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/recap?gameId=260318023
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Can’t say i’m terribly upset with the loss. If it didn’t happen tonight, it almost assuredly was going to happen tomorrow against Ottawa. As we’ve seen, all those bad habits that had been smoothed over by the winning streak were present once again in all their glory. Hopefully Bruce can use this game as a teachable moment and get the guys back on track and playing a more balanced game.
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I understand the game went in to overtime, and I understand history was on the line, but I have to admit I’m still not comfortable seeing Alex Ovechkin skating 29:30 when the team has a game the following day, even if 9:24 of it came on the powerplay
Also, totally agree with this – and I think it was a sure sign that tonight this team was just not playing the way they have the last month. Bruce has been really good at keeping ice time fairly even, spreading it around.
Although I can’t help but think part of that was just Ovie’s intensity kicking in, particularly after the no-goal. He was trying to take this team on his shoulders again and just couldn’t do it.
And with Poti possibly being tweaked and a possible game-time decision, things could be interesting.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Your top two defensemen getting ~30 minutes is nothing new in the NHL. I’m not torn up by this, since he’s about to get a couple weeks off.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sure, go ahead and rub it in. You’ve made greenlife52 huddle in a corner and cry.
by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It’s alot easier for Bruce to manage minutes when all four lines are clicking and the team isn’t down three at the start of the third. I think the winning leads to the well-managed minutes and the well-managed minutes lead to winning. Chicken-egg etc.
Now that they arent trying to win every game, i think they wont put Ovie and Green on the ice for so long.
In the past few games, they have cop’d out kinda and let Ovie try to win games for them, + ice time.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 PM EST up reply actions
ovie's first OT shift
was like 1:40 long… that was a concern.
by DonnieKnutts on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
what is more of a concern is the 4:20 shift from greenie to finish off the 3rd
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Stipulation on that due to the PP near the end.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
of course but goodness that is one long shift
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
Oh, don’t get me wrong, I’m with you, but in between that and Poti being tweaked, there are a couple mitigating circumstances.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Alzner and Sloan in the line up tomorrow. Hopefully not together.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
On second thought, I hope they’re a long term pairing.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Is it even remotely possible that the Harrisburg airport is open/accessible?
#unlikely
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
I thought Alzner was still with the squad.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
And I was wrong.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:10 AM EST up reply actions
He had to go down so Varly could come up.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Yep. I checked the active roster, but my working assumption was not correct.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing it’s the latter more than anything, unless Poti’s out longer than that.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 11, 2010 12:02 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed. Poti being out with Alzner coming in would be like Viagra for F&B.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
As if I needed it. I’ve been making good use of the Snowpocalypse.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
May your first child be a masculine child!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
You just had to tell him!
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
yeah about that when did poti get tweaked? i completely missed it
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
I think it was in the 3rd, but I’m going from memory.
Damn! Looks like my women is on time.
by Bald Pollack on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
I saw that on a shift 4:05 in he blocked a shot but then came back out for another shift i was just wondering if i missed anything
"Hey anyway I can get my name out there 30 years from now is great," Steckel said. "They will be like, ‘Who was that guy?’ Then they’ll look at the stats and say, ‘Well, at least that guy was really good on face-offs.’"
That’s the only thing I would change about his game — his shifts tend to be too long.
Last night he had 22 shifts and nearly 30 minutes of ice time, and in general, he averages more than a minute per shift. The top defensemen have those kind of numbers, but rarely forwards.
Ovechkin has the 7th highest ice time per game among forwards, and among the top 10, he has the highest average shift length, averaging 19.8 shifts and 21:40 ice time. Only he and Kovalchuk averaged more than a minute/shift (and I suspect that’s going to change with the Devils).
I’m not smart enough to make any conclusions from this, and it’s obviously not affected him or the Caps this year, but I’d think that come playoffs, he and the coaches have to curb this a little.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/09/AR2010020902574.html
After the Caps beat Montreal on the road Wednesday and crush their next two foes into bone meal for their 17th straight victory by Saturday, they will have tied the all-time consecutive wins mark.
Thanks, Wise.
Damn you Wise!!! Damn you to HELLL!!!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
what’s the website you can use to see most frequent linemates players skate with?
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
Dobberhockey normally has stuff like that.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Feb 10, 2010 11:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, I’m trying to see what forwards Schultz plays with most frequently. All I can see is comparing D partners.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
Being as there are only 3 D pairings and 4 forward lines, Schultz can show up with any forward line.
The odds are that the 1st line is with him more at even strength (but of course you can say that about any defenseman.)
On PK, he is usually with the guys who do PK. (Backstrom, the 4th liners, Semin, Laich)
My guess: he appears the most with Backstrom
Rocking the Red since 1975
right, he obviously plays with everyone, I was just hoping to see exact numbers is all, for curiosity sake.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 11, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions
not really.
http://www.dobberhockey.com/frozenpool_linecombo.php?situation=ALL&period=ALL&chkDefence=checkbox&selDefence=WSHSCHULTZ,JEFF&games=2009-2010:R:99&Submit=Show+Line+Combinations&sent=go
Dobber Hockey tracks D pairings and Forward combinations automatically. I was hoping to see D’s and Fowards together.
Because now I can justify browsing and commenting during the work day with the argument that I am promoting my business.
by Sombrero Guy on Feb 11, 2010 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
On a side note, Plekanec is a free agent after this season…seeing as BMo is as well, do you think Plekanec would fit in with the Caps?
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
We need all the cap space for Anton Volchenkov.
I’ve already got a good nickname: AV-Club
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
No. He’ll be getting too much coin.
Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.
by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 11:46 PM EST up reply actions
He will certainly get too much money and is not worth it. I promise. He’s having an awesome year this year, and yes, he scores on us a lot…but he’s streaky and inconsistent and was invisible most of last year. He also takes dumb penalties.
Think of him as a more frustrating, much less talented Semin.
Yeah, didn’t he take the penalty early in the third that led to the Green goal?
Spot on with the comparison :D
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 10, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
Think of him as a more frustrating, much less talented Semin.
From the sounds of it, signing this guy would lead to a mass murder of TV’s by thrown remotes
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no! Someone alert the TVs!
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
more frustrating? Yikes.
Only YOU can prevent idiots from commenting!
by Knee high to a duck on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly. Also has a dirty side to him that I’m not exactly fond of, and I’m (unsurprisingly) a fan of his – because like Semin he’s got talent when he wants to use it. Fun to watch, but yeah, he’s much more frustrating and doesn’t have as much talent to balance it out.
B-b-b-ut we could call him the Volchenator!
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
Don’ t worries, theyse talking about Plekanec not AV Club
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
She’re replying re: Plekanec.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:56 PM EST up reply actions
We could call him that too, but I think he’d be confused.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
lol.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:01 AM EST up reply actions
Why are the zodiac signs all of a sudden coming up?
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
That didn’t answer my question. At all.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
You’re avoiding my question.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I probably got confused on the whole Volchenkov and Plekanec thing as to who was being compared to Semin.
One similarity that Semin and Volchenkov has is that they’re Pisces.
I wasn’t trying to avoid your question.
Rocking the Red since 1975
I’m more asking, lately a lot of horoscope signs is being discussed. What brought it about?
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
His horoscope for yesterday: Take a risk. It’s something you’re good at. Go ahead — put your feelings out there.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
Scorpio!
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I have a mug to prove it.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
Mine has a scorpion and a description of your average Scorpio on it…beat that! :P
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
I’m a Cappy. Like BB and Ted. :)
Also like Carlson, Matty P, OO, and ShaMo’s right about on the cusp.
He will certainly get too much money and is not worth it. I promise. He’s having an awesome year this year, and yes, he scores on us a lot…but he’s streaky and inconsistent and was invisible most of last year. He also takes dumb penalties.
Think of him as a more frustrating, much less talented Semin.
I thought this originally was a comment about Anton Volchenkov, which led to some really hilarious cognitive dissonance.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2010 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
aaaaaaand I’m not the only one…
Reading fail. Or nort.
Atta dinnin stick a who!
by Gould Old Days on Feb 11, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I told you! The fail is contagious and spreading fast!
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
The Japers’ Rink Fail Flu Epidemic – rec your hands, and flag those trolls!
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:49 AM EST up reply actions
At the end of the season, i think may frame this
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Feel something brushing the back of your neck, Jumbo Joe?
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Ovi has missed 8 games and is still leading in points by 10. That’s crazy good.
Русский машина никогда не ломается!
It shouldn’t but it amazes me every day how good he is.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
by Ovechwin on Feb 11, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like our lack of raisin Brahms evoking was the difference maker tonight.
(On Mike Green) He’s urban, you northern folk wouldn’t understand!
GUTEN TAGG!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Brahms liked the power of the arts in goal #2
erskine has scored...now i can die in peace
by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Was anyone else pissed off about the make up call after the AO no-goal? The waffling and self-incrimination just makes it worse.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Just goes to show that what ever went on in the huddle was not legit
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
and perhaps that the refs were at odds with each other during the game
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think this goes back to the fact that the NHL doesn’t have officiating “teams” the way the NFL does. At this point, with four officials on the ice, it would make sense to have, at the very least, consistent ref pairings so that each ref knows and trusts the way the other works.
The ref behind the goal said it was good. I’m not sure what sort of “evidence” could have been good enough to overrule it, seeing as I don’t think they even conferred with Toronto or looked at a replay (correct me if I’m wrong there)
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions
Oh, I’m sure Toronto had a say. Probably the final say. I’m more frustrated at the lack of explanation than the call.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they went to TOR. That was all a judgment call and it didn’t look like they had the headphones on.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I think all the refs came to a huddle. No replay or call was made.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:17 AM EST up reply actions
I only saw them get into a referee pow-wow and just talk. Talk is cheap. If you’re going to overrule the goal, you need evidence, and that’s why Bruce’s head was about to explode after the overruling.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No, because interference with a goalie is not a reviewable call, it’s on ice judgment. If they looked at the video and called it off I’d be even more pissed because that’s a violation of the rules. It would be like reviewing an off-sides or a hooking. The ref has to determine a) was the goalie interfered with (first said no, then said yes) and then, if yes, b) is it a PIM for goalie interference (no). Both are in the refs discretion and cannot go to video review.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Are we even sure it was waved off due to interference?
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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what BB said in his presser.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Missed the presser (Was taking Triple Ovie home).
My comments below don’t really apply now.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Then what could have been said by a ref who was further away from the play than the one that called the goal?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:21 AM EST up reply actions
BB said the ref that said goal ended up telling him he didn’t really see it and a backside ref or linesman though that Gil fell on Price before the puck got there.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I think the whole thing is iffy.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I see. My mistake, then.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
But you can still be pissed.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Oh, don’t get me wrong, that would have been a huge goal. But the fact that the Caps came back regardless, when the wind had been taken out of their sails, is what I’d take over that. It goes to show me that good teams find a way to come back.
They just ran out of gas at the end. But I’ll take a point anywho.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know if I’d say “ran out of gas” as much as “kept not covering people in their D zone” but I definitely agree that it was great to earn a point with that comeback.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
Yeah, the backchecking on the game-winning OT goal was horrendous by Flash and Semin.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Good teams find a way to come back, but coming back from 3 goals in the third period is just insane.
The point remains though. It’s sure fun to root for a team where a 3-goal deficit is in play.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
No question. It is a special thing to be able to watch them get scored on repeatedly and be able to sit and not be worried about it at all because you know the Caps are just gonna catch up. That said, if they keep going with these slow starts it is not going to end well come April. And that’s what I’m concerned about.
Someone upthread said it probably went along the lines of the ref behind the net saying “I was just watchng the puck and nothing else, what happened?” and the trailing ref said “There was incidental contact.” So they waved off the goal. If that’s what actually happened , and I think it is although there’s no way to know for sure, I think that’s exactly the way the two ref system should work.
by Kevin O. on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If the light didn’t go on calling them over, though, Toronto agreed with the end result. They review every goal.
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Wouldn’t it have been funny if Toronto had called in the middle of the game to say it was a goal? Would have been awkward.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Once the pucks dropped, it’s said and done, but I’m sure Toronto looked at that one.
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
I would have loved that with :05 seconds left
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Let’s square out the negativity with wishful thinking, shall we?
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:24 AM EST up reply actions
There is only so much negativity left.
I got out the best Russian Vodka i could get being under 21.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
I’m diving into my build your own six pack from the store formerly known as Food Lion.
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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
That is kinda nice. Care to divulge your picks?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Several obvious choices, and a few “Hm, that looks interesting.”
Blue Moon Winter Ale
Blue Moon Rising Moon (Saving for a warmer day)
Widmer Hefewizen
Dominion Baltic Porter Winter Brew
Magic Hat Lucky Kat
Leinenkugel Fireside Nut Brown
Top three were classics I always like, bottom three were new tryers.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I am glad to see other people who like Blue Moon. I think it is severly underappreciated..
If the Widmer one has a yellow tag around the bottle, then my dad drank those often, loved them. All about the microbrews.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
Blue Moon is one of my favorite beer companies. I’ve yet to find one I did not like. I kind of regret not getting three, but the smell on this Baltic Porter is amazing.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll definitely give it a try. Magic Hat Lucky Kat sounds delicious lol
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not really liking the taste, truth be told, but I could smell this Porter all day.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
I’m always amused by this, because Blue Moon is actually a division of lame-ass Coors.
And I say that as a person who loves Blue Moon.
Coors is the best of the big three, though, so I don’t mind so much.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Well, uh, seeing as I’m under 21, how ’bout I bring out the tap water?
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
Drinking age should be 18 anyway. . .but go for the Arnold Palmer. It is delicous
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:31 AM EST up reply actions
Have u seen the ESPN commercial ?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
I really want an OVIE ESPN commercial. . .
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
You mean the Arizona Arnold Palmer? I’d kill for one of those right about now.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
7-11 has ’em.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
That’s when u add Whiskey
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly, as in pour me one after that game.
Russian Machine very rarely breaks. Oh and f**k Brooks Orpik.
Almost the perfect medicine.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
Ohhh yeah
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
But Toronto is in Canada. And Candians hate Ovechkin. Therefore Toronto doesn’t review Ovechkin goals.
hey there
not all of us canadians hate ovechkin.
Official Ambassador for Nucks Misconduct.
"If Chuck Norris was up against 7 Rangers, he'd call Ryan Kesler."
GO CANUCKS GO!
Aw, come on. We can’t blame this on bias alone.
Everyone wants to kill the king. But the prince, he just sails along telling all the ladies, "One day I'm gonna be king."
by Steck It Out on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
No, a healthy dose of incompetence is involved.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
by Rob Parker on Feb 11, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe they didn’t want to expose the error of their refs?
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Via Alexander Ovetjkin
Русский машина никогда не ломается!
by cobracg on Feb 11, 2010 12:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’ve seen that one a lot. It’s not my favorite, truth be told.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:51 AM EST up reply actions
More crazy Caps/Bears symmetry
The Bears’ historic winning streak was snapped at 12 when the Admirals scored with seven seconds left in a game that was headed to overtime. On January 13.
The Caps streak got snapped at 14 with eight seconds left (though in OT)
The Bears haven’t lost since.
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If the Bears are a year ahead of us, I’m completely fine with this.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 12:53 AM EST up reply actions
It’s the ebb and flow of the season. I am really nervous right now for the play-offs.
I feel like it’s the Caps Cup to lose right now.
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
by kingzman264 on Feb 11, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what scares me. Historically, whenever it has been “the Caps (whatever) to lose” they’ve done a pretty good job of losing it. Obviously, the current incarnation has little to no relation to the late eighties early nineties version of the Caps that broke my heart so many times, but it doesn’t stop me from being cautious in my optimism.
This is a different team, completely. So no need to fear ;D
Everyone on that team wants the CUP baaaddd.
When everyone on that team is working hard for 60 minutes, as they will be in the POs, it’ll be beautiful.
Thinking about it makes me want POs now!!
Still waiting for someone to draft Paul Newman. . .
Double Deuce
“It’s kind of cool that Craig Laughlin likes to give the guys nicknames and try to connect with fans, but something tells me “Double Deuce” isn’t going to work as a nickname for Mike Knuble"
I like Mike but to me “Double Deuce” could only work for Dino!
"Don’t put your beer in the microwave, eh. It’ll boil."-Bob McKenzie
Kono didn’t need a nickname like Double-Deuce. Kono was…Kono. That was too perfect.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
It would’ve been great to keep the streak going but a loss was coming sooner or later. My take is that this is a great teaching moment for BB. It will let him keep the guys grounded and push home the point that , as a team, they have to play better defense.
What amazing date in history are we giong back to today, Mr. Peabody?
Fake Jeff Schultz is hilarious tonight.
I TOTALLY AM REMEMEMBERING WHY I STOPPED DRINKING WIHT THE RUSSIANS.
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by EmilyB on Feb 11, 2010 1:45 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I have watched that goal 14 times and I cannot see any way that is not a goal. What makes it works is that there was no explanation to the crowd/TV viewership and the blatant phantom make up immediately afterwards.
I would of had no problem with Bruce getting a 2/miscoundunt over that, I hope he ripped them in the presser.
I wanna drive the Zamboni.
From the Couch + Grand Cru.
So… Something that wasn’t mentioned and was probably hard to pick up on.
I was going to try to make some witty speculative banter between CSN production staff and Locker about why they would not replay the Habs 5th goal. Either in the intermission highlights or in the recap on CSN after the game.. I’m just not funny enough to do that.
I honestly believe CSN wouldn’t show the replay/analyze it for fear they might incite a massive snowball riot in DC.
They replayed it at the time from the main TV angle, then showed one replay from behind the cage. I went back after the game and replayed it 4-5 times. You can only notice it from behind the net, and in JT’s reactio but the Hab’s net crasher’s stick was completely interfereing with JT’s glove hand, and was the only reason that puck found the back of the net. I’ll raise you another incorrectly called incidental contact that didn’t go the Caps way. It is situations like this where I think the Coaches should have the ability to have 1 goal reviewed per game for missed interference/incidental contact. Sure, it would screw with the flow of the game. Maybe if you get it wrong as a coach, you lose your challenge for the next game or something… Rough night for disallowed goal calls for the Caps.
Now, I think this is the first and hopefully only time I’ll ever say this. The caps did not play well enough to win that game, but they sure as hell deserved the 2 points if it were not for that 2-goal swing in the Habs favor. I would have almost rather the game ended in reg than have the Caps actually battle back like that, and lose in OT. But the way they lost in OT is only a fitting reminder of how the rest of the game went. Coasting in and out of periods is not how you win hockey games.
Rough night for 55 all around. He’s allowed one of those every so often, only problem is it only reinforces Caps fans who are not so fond of him. Rough night for the rest of the D Corps all around. Nobody had a good night, but the Forwards on any line (except brooks and backs) were not helping matters much. When you see your D man in distress or double teamed, you have to go give him some help. We didn’t do that all night long and it helped the Habs cycle around us like bees around a hive.
by FFSEnough on Feb 11, 2010 8:39 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Observations from my Sofa
1) Atrocious defense in the second period. What was the team doing, letting these shots go by. And while Theo made some great saves late, he was ice cold early.
2) The non-goal by Ovie should have been waved off. There was no penalty, but you cannot score a goal by pushing the goalie or other player into the net. It is covered by Rule 78.5, subsection ix:
78.5 Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons:
…
(ix) When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save.
As much as I dislike it, this rule covers it. There was a shot, it was saved by Price and Ovechkin then pushed Gill, Price and the puck into the net…
3) I think I mentioned this a few days ago but… I HATE SNOW
4) Kudos to Brooks Laich, getting his 20th goal on a hat trick… three straight 20 win seasons. To think 3 years ago he and the Caps went to arbitration to determine if Brooks was going to get a one-way to two-way contract. He’s come a long way.
5) Prediction for tonight: Caps go out to a lead and put the Senators away.
Ok the win streak is over, but 15 straight games with points and only one regulation loss since Ovi was named captain…they are playing better than anyone.
Despite the loss, right now the Caps are the best team in the world. Period.
Let's go Caps!
If your interpretation of 78.5 was correct, why wasn’t the Semin-Neuvy goal disallowed? That was certainly a case of a goalkeeper being pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save. I also don’t think 78.5 applies when you have a rebound that bounced out as far as this one did. These rules are all subject to ref’s interpretation and they all are interpreted differently, and that is why no one knows what these rules mean.
"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke
You’re asking for consistent application on this rule from a herd of zebras that can’t interpret the rest of the rule book consistently?
If you've read this far...seek help.
by ThePeerless on Feb 11, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Consistency is its own reward… so is insanity.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions
The Semin-Neuvy situation is actually covered in 78.4, second paragraph:
A goal shall be scored if the puck is put into the goal in any way by a player of the defending side. The player of the attacking side who last played the puck shall be credited with the goal but no assist shall be awarded.
Semin put that puck into the net, therefore it’s a goal. Semin wasn’t pushed, he was skating towards the goal trying to catch up on the breakaway. In the case last night, Ovechkin pushed Gill into the net along with Price, the puck, and perhaps Joe Finley’s lawn mower…
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Price made the original save and the puck was in play on Gil’s stick. Gill was legally checked by Ovechkin. Gill and Price weren’t pushed into the net and the puck slithered under Price. If the rule was applied in this case (was any rule applied?), then it was misapplied.
(Yes, I know about the avatar hounding - just pretend mine is invisible.)
your interpretation is incorrect, that clause covers if the goaltender is pushed into the net while in possession of the puck. There was clear separation between puck and goaltender and there was no whistle denoting he had secured the puck. Further, Price never entered the goal.
There is no specific mention of the goaltender being in possession of the puck in the rule. The rule only states that after a save a player cannot push them in together. There was a save, and Ovechkin used a large object (Gill) to push Price and the puck into the net.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Goalkeeper wasn’t pushed into the net together with the puck. Puck was behind the goaltender, and Gill pushed it in.
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by Whiter Mage on Feb 11, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Gill was pushed in… he didn’t push the puck. Again the rule doesn’t mention possession of the puck by the goaltender, only that after a save a goal is not awarded if the puck is pushed in along with the goaltender.
I don’t think there is a rule to cover the specific situation that came up last night. But there is a rule for that too, it’s subsection xiii of rule 78.5:
(xiii) Any goal scored, other than as covered by the official rules, shall not be allowed.
That also covers this situation, although it covers it in such a way that it can be used by the officials to cover their [Avery]s.
Let's go Caps!
by MikeL-Pivonka on Feb 11, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think it should have. I think that 78.5 ix doesn’t apply, but that the rule mentioned above where a defensive player can push it in, I mean, had Ovechkin tapped his stick against Gill’s and that pushed it in, it’s a goal. I don’t get how it’s disallowed and Ovechkin did nothing illegal. If it makes any sense.
Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.
Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.
Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.
I just don’t see how the ruling can be different from the ruling in Game 7 against PHI. The NHL came out and stood up for that call, so how could this be different? They either effected a silent rule change in the meantime, or are just assholes. I absolutely want the NHL to issue a statement on this goal and I have zero pretense that it will actually happen. As I’ve said before, and will undoubtedly be forced to say again, if I didn’t love hockey so much I would absolutely hate the NHL and wouldn’t be able to watch.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
I think we would all be happy if the league apologized for this OR the Philly goal. ONE call was wrong and cost a team a game. One of those games happened to be a game 7 in the playoffs. Which was it, Mr. Bettman? I happen to feel that this is the right call, but not in the context of Stanley Cup Playoffs, Round 1 in 08.
Remembereing how awesome Backis’ goal was last night. Also, watch Ovie run through Plekanec:
http://www.videotodaynews.com/play.php?vid=YKtKajbWQ94
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Er, Spacek, sorry. Still flattened pretty good there.
Now helping to keep an eye on all things Gr8 at Alex Ovetjkin.
I think MON was offsides on that 4th goal. I hadn’t really paid much attention to it until now, but I just watched a few more times and they were definitely in the zone early. Brooks Laich maybe whacked that puck back in the zone but on a bouncing puck like that the offensive team never gets the benefit of that call. Garbage.
Killer_Carlson and Steckel Me Elmo are like brothers to me. And when I say brothers I don't mean like actual brothers. I mean it like how black people use it, which is more meaningful, I think.
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Florida
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53 | 25 | 17 | 11 | 61 |
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Washington
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54 | 28 | 21 | 5 | 61 |
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56 | 26 | 24 | 6 | 58 |
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Tampa Bay
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53 | 23 | 24 | 6 | 52 |
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Carolina
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55 | 20 | 25 | 10 | 50 |
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