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Wednesday Caps Clips: Caps @ Canadiens Game Day

Your savory breakfast links:

  • Previews of tonight's game against Les Canadiens from Vogs and NHL.com, and be sure to check out our SB Nation partner Habs Eyes On The Prize for coverage from the other side of tonight's match up.
  • To refresh your memory, this is the fourth and final regular season meeting between the red, white and blue and the bleu, blanc et rouge, with the Habs taking the first game 3-2 and the Caps bouncing back with 4-3 and 4-2 wins.
  • The Caps talk snow, Mike Green is late to practice and Semyon Varlamov is back. [CI]
  • What Varly's return means for the Caps' crease. [Corey Masisak (note: I'm going to start crediting Corey and not the sites he's writing for so that you know it's a link worth clickin'), FFODC]
  • Damn that Olympic break for stopping the momentum the Caps will have after 17 consecutive wins. Seriously? Seriously. [WaPo]
  • A couple of Habs talk about the streak. [CI]
  • Quintin Laing is "a saint" because, in part because, despite his lack of playing time, he's not "hanging from a noose in the middle of Constitution right now." Brooks Laich bringin' the morbidity. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • A couple of superb reads on what you already know: the Caps don't have to do anything, personnel-wise, to be a legitimate Cup contender. [Peerless, Homer McFanboy]
  • Caps/Pens actually did pretty huge ratings after all. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • Karl Alzner: not a snow wuss. [Patriot-News]
  • Hey, good news - the Caps probably don't need to get another point in the standings to make the playoffs. Don't tell Bruce. [G&M]
  • Speaking of Bruce, his take on Sunday's win. [Capitals]
  • Alex Ovechkin is looking for a Hart Hat Trick (and yes, we all would prefer two Harts and a Smythe, but it's cool nonetheless). [CBC]
  • And speaking of Ovi, he talks Vancouver with Lindsay Czarniak... [NBC4]
  • ... and credits you guys for the win over Pittsburgh. Funny, as we all credit AO. [RMNB]
  • Craig Custance picks the Russians to finish second in Vancouver. [SportingNews]
  • Good stuff on "bandwagoneering." [Mr. Irrelevant]
  • Scenes from a Cap-themed winter wonderland. [D.C. Sports Bog]
  • Even ESPN.com's readers know that Pens/Caps is as good as it gets these days. [D.C. Landing Strip]
  • Why Caps fans are happy - they can buy the owner's book? [DCist]
  • Bear Tracks! [LDN]
  • Keep the Portland Pirates Hall of Fame Caps-heavy - vote for Jeff Nelson. [Pirates]
  • Finally, per the real HHoF, on this date in the year 2000, "Olaf Kolzig became the Washington Capitals' all-time leader in career shutouts, when the 15th of his career came in a 1-0 win at Montreal. Kolzig broke the record of 14 set by Jim Carey."

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I should be able to catch most of the game tomorrow morning! Will probably end up sleeping through the first period, but hey, better than nothing!

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:03 AM EST reply actions  

time for a double digit win streak of your’n

Driving under the influence of hockey since godknow's when.

by bigonetimer on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously! I want in on this action!

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

No I certainly am not privy to the details of the communication between coaches and players, but I always assumed they had something a little more organized than text messaging. Seems like a system that can definitely go wrong (as was the case with Green not getting the message, apparently).

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:13 AM EST reply actions  

I wonder if he didn’t get the message because he couldn’t remember in which girl’s thong he left it.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 10, 2010 8:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Not buying the “I didn’t get the text” excuse, but hwat the heck…

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 8:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m not so sure of the validity of that excuse. But still, you’d think they’d have a better system.

Texting doesn’t really seem fitting for any professional setting.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually buy it. I’ve gotten 2 texts at the same time before and never realized there was second message in my inbox. Heck I’ve forgotten to turn my phone on period on occasion. Of course, whatever the reason is there is no excuse and you gotta pay the penalty when you are late.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

What is more troubling is that Bruce noted this isn’t the first time Green’s been late to practice. I hope he’s not making a habit out of it.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

We text for everything. Most land phones don’t work with power outages. If the team routinely texts updates, then it is appropriate. They probably email too.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually, one of the reasons we keep a landline is because it works when the power’s out. Phone lines /= power lines.

I’m also surprised that they’d use texting to alert players of a practice time change. I’ve seen enough texts go awry that it seems iffy at best. I’ve missed texts just because my phone was in another room and I didn’t hear the alert.

You had me at "no problem"!

by mosaicist on Feb 10, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno, in the world of orchestras and professional music, if you show up late to a rehearsal, you’re blacklisted and fired. They have zero tolerance for that kind of stuff. In fact, if you’re not there 30 minutes before rehearsal, you can be fired.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

In the world of trial lawyers, you very often have your case tossed out if you are late. Or, put on the back burner for trial.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

if you’re not there 30 minutes before rehearsal, you can be fired.

I assume this is because you have to get all tuned up and warmed up on your own?

Does anyone know how it works for pro teams at practice? Is practice time when you are on the ice dressed, or is practice time when you have to be in the locker room getting dressed? I presume the former as when I played sports as a kid we were expected to be there, dressed, and have already run our laps by the time practice started.

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by renstar on Feb 10, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

The former. I think the guys routinely arrive an hour early to warm up, stretch out, eat, work out, etc.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

So if he was 15 mins late he was 15 mins late on the ice. That is huge and I can understand why BB would be pissed.

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by renstar on Feb 10, 2010 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

One of the bloggers said that he ran through the media area in street clothes 5 minutes after practice started, then showed up on the ice ten minutes later. He’s always one of the first guys dressed and out of Kettler too. Some guys are still on the ice helping with the goalie drills and he’s down the ramp.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting, because I’ve actually noticed the opposite from Greenie. To me, he seems like a “gym rat”. The practices I’ve been to, he’s ALWAYS one of the last ones to leave the ice. I’ve even heard the assistant coaches order him off the ice so that the injured players can get their time in.

by Cluster on Feb 10, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If he was a gym rat I don’t think he would have gained 20 pounds last season.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t mean in that sense. I meant sort of like a basketball player taking a thousand jump shots and/or free throws each day, always out on the court kind of way.

It’s obvious Green isn’t a fan of burpies.

by Cluster on Feb 10, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, I was wondering how a 20-pound weight gain (or even a ten pound weight gain) could have gone un-noticed by the team staff. When I played high school hockey they watched us like a hawk. We had weigh-ins all the time.

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The team knew about it. But what were they going to do about it? Follow the guy around every hour (which is most of them) that he’s not at the rink?

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Nobody is a fan of burpies.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume this is because you have to get all tuned up and warmed up on your own?

That’s a big part of it, but another is just reliability, and I think a lot of pretentiousness.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Theatre is similar, and it’s because time is money — in a professional union theatre, there’s a certain amount of time you’re permitted to rehearse before calling a break or ending for the day, but warmup time isn’t counted against that. So if an actor arrives when rehearsal is supposed to start, but then needs to warm up and get ready, they’re taking time away from people who were ready to work.

"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."

by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought the theatre/audition life was hurry up to wait in line . . . do they actually start things on time?

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I mean once the show is cast and rehearsing — if it’s a union shop, rehearsals start on time. (Possibly even if it’s not a union shop, if the space is being rented.)

If you’re auditioning, you don’t have a job yet so no one really cares about your time, unfortunately.

"Camaraderie, that's what the Washington Capitals are all about."

by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a good thing the Caps aren’t coached by another BB (Bill Belichick) or Green would have been drivng his Lamby home in the snow.

by b.orr4 on Feb 10, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s ridiculous seeing that Ovechkin can join the best player, and best defenseman ever in the ranks of the only people who have won the Hart 3 times in a row. It points to how good of a player he is compared to his peers, just like Orr and Gretzky.

I think a lot of the criticisms of the Caps D comes from a few things. First of all, Green is the number 1 D man (not top shut down guy), which makes people shudder. They are stuck with the impression they got from the playoffs last year when he was injured and over weight, and people assume that is his prototypical defensive game, which is irresponsible analysis of his worth as a player. People get stuck on this first impression, and it’s very hard to shake.

Also, the Caps D corps is not exactly a hall of fame corps. In my opinion, it is an underwhelming group. But that doesn’t mean the team’s D is bad. While they may not have the most talented group of defenders they still play a decent, even if sloppy at times, team defense. So while they’re a little overmatched on the backline at times, they’re at a bigger advantage in terms of offensive talent all the time.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 AM EST reply actions  

Also, the Caps D corps is not exactly a hall of fame corps.

True, but was Carolina’s in 2007? I think we’ll be okay. A Dan Hamhuis would be nice to have, but not at the cost of disrupting the forward lines.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m definitely not saying the Caps D are going to screw them over. I definitely think they’re in better shape this year (on both sides of the puck) than either of the previous 2 years. I was just providing why I think the Caps D is so maligned among the hockey media.

Certainly when April and May roll around a team can tighten up, or a goalie can step up to surprise people. You don’t need to have Stevens, Daneyko, Niedermayer, and Rafalski on the backline to win in the playoffs (unless you’re Brodeur).

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

And an all-star backline doesn’t guarantee you a Cup, either. It cuts both ways. There’s something else that you need to have to win a Cup, a quality that I can’t quite put words to – unity is close but doesn’t cover all of it. Ruthlessness also covers part of it. It’s something that Detroit had the year before and Pittsburgh had last year, and that I didn’t see in the Caps last year but I do see this year.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:42 AM EST up reply actions  

You need to have a team dedication to winning. Everybody needs to be buying into the system, and they all need to be able to execute for 20-28 games straight. Pittsburgh had that last year, Detroit the year before, Pronger’s elbows had it in 07, etc.

Of course a stocked amount of talent certainly increases your chances, but it doesn’t guarantee a cup.

And an otherworldly performance by a player can carry a team.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

And I’d love to add Hamhuis (or Hejda) to the D. Hamhuis is definitely more realistic if you ask me.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think so too. The main question is, what would Nashville want? They’re a budget-strapped team, and rumor has it that re-signing Hamhuis is unlikely. I don’t see them looking at the baby goalies; between Rinne and Ellis, they’re pretty well set in goal, and Rinne’s a youngster, so they will be for a while. My guess would be scoring, a Fehr or Flash type. Do you think they’d be happy with someone like Matty Perreault or Andrew Gordon?

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:44 AM EST up reply actions  

They would definitely be asking for young offense, and not 2-3 level O, they’d want 1st or 2nd line D. Obviously they won’t be getting someone like Semin (unless Suter/Weber is coming back the Caps’ way), but I do think the Caps have enough offensive prospects to land Hamhuis and not cripple their system.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Washington’s system is deep enough that at least a few of the Bears could make the NHL in Nashville. Look at Sami Lepisto in Phoenix. It’d be nice if we could do it, but I’m not sure what a fair price for someone like Hamhuis would be.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s exactly what I’m saying. As nice as it is to have the prospects, the can’t all play for the Caps. Even if all of them become NHL level players, there simply isn’t the roster space for all of them. In that case they should move some players/prospects to improve an area of weakness, which in the context of this discussion, is the D.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Right there with you, my man. The Bears can handle a trade; they’re so stacked it’s ridiculous. I’d be cautious about disrupting the Caps’ lines, is all.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think we’ve just been arguing the same side, but taking turns bringing up different points in support of that side.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much. We can safely tinker with the D, it’s the forward lines I want to think long and hard before messing with.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they’d want 1st or 2nd line D, if they’re giving up a D-man because he’s a 1-2 guy and they already have two.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Damnit, meant 1-2 line O.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha. I mean, OTF has been clamoring hard for Flash, but said Fehr and a pick would work too, so I’m pretty sure they’re looking for a winger specifically.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Not only do they have Rinne and Ellis, but they have a good goalie in Milwaukee in Dekanich.

They’d probably want some as Steckel said, they’ll want young offense.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Dekanich, what a smart smart boy. Set some records last place he played, IIRC.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the crowd had something to do with the win on Sunday, although it wasn’t all them by any means. We lose that game if it’s in Pittsburgh, I think, but towards the end of the second, repeated blown calls had the crowd riled up enough that they didn’t run the ticker during second intermission – my guess is that nothing nice or innocuous enough to post got sent in. Come the third, the crowd was hot and raucous where it had been quiet in the first, and the guys definitely came out with more jump. Whether the chicken or the egg came first is hard to say, but the two definitely fed off each other.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 AM EST reply actions  

Not that I was able to watch, but judging from reviews and what I’ve heard, I’d say the team picking up a bit came first. Then the fans. Then the Caps’ comeback was really put into motion.

As far as I can tell, the team woke up with Fehr’s goal in the second, and with that the fans, who were then able to give the team the energy and jump they needed in the third.

It’s a vicious cycle of sharing energy. Physics!

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Or metaphysics if you will. Watch the energy dynamics of a good rock concert, and it’s the same way.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Killing off that 2-man power play at the start of the 3rd was the momentum shifter.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite criticism.

by Rather Bengt on Feb 10, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it started before that, towards the end of the second. That’s when it shifted for good, though.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I think it was both, for separate reasons. If the Caps go into the third down by three, the crowd is dead, and the team never gets energized, so Fehr’s goal was huge. Therefore, it probably contributed to the ability to kill the five on three that spilled over into the beginning of the third.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 8:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Worth noting that Ovie’s third and game-tying goal came right after an unusually early Unleash the Fury. Awesome when they do that.

by katzistan on Feb 10, 2010 8:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, that was pretty awesome.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 9:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I was wondering about that. I watched on TV and wasn’t sure when they played Unleash the Fury. It hardly ever fails, you know?

"We take the shortest route to the puck and arrive in ill humor." - Bobby Clarke

by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Fehr’s goal was huge.

Titanic. That straight-to-the-bakery tally lifted the team and the crowd, just in time.

by redlineblue on Feb 10, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Im not so sure, but if they had scored it wouldve been game over. Boy the fans would have flocked out after a 5th goal…

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~Alex Ovechkin

by amkcaps on Feb 10, 2010 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

In between Peerless’ writeup, (I think) Gouldie’s comment alluding to McPhee wouldn’t upgrade the roster unless the person being brought in is an improvement to what’s there now, and the streak, I have a growing and unfounded hunch that it’ll be minor tinkering that’s done and that’s it, if anything.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 7:45 AM EST reply actions  

I think you’re right. Certainly McPhee will move cautiously if he does; disrupting chemistry is a bigger concern than cap or contract space this year, and a very real one.

I just can’t think of many things out there that are (a) a real upgrade to what’s there now, (b) affordable, and © whose price doesn’t jeopardize either this year’s Cup run or future ones.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:49 AM EST up reply actions  

But we have SO much talent in Hershey. Winning Calder Cups is nice, but it doesn’t do much for the parent club.

You had me at no problem.

by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 7:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. At some point the Caps are going to have to make room for prospects to try their hand in the AHL/NHL. And to do that, they’ll need to move prospects/players for other assets.

The ultimate goal for the Caps is to win the Stanley Cup, and if moving a few players/prospects increases their chances of doing so, they should make that move.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, totally. As I said, it’s the NHL roster I’d hesitate to disrupt.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, it should go without saying that even if we don’t trade an NHL guy, if we’re getting an NHL guy it still disrupts the roster.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. We could probably make trades out of Hershey, and should, but I’d be hesitant about moving the NHL roster as it stands too much.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Most likely, any moves the Caps make this season are going to be moves to improve the NHL roster. They’ll have to move some NHL players either by trade or demotion to make room for the talent that’s coming their way in the case of any trades that bring back roster players.

In the case of Hamhuis, I’d send down Sloan (nobody will take him) and run with a line up of Green, Schultz, the PoPo, Hamhuis, Alzner and Erskine/Mo.

Now drink with me deeply of the bourbon, scotch, and rye until such time as we are fighting drunk.

by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, agreed. I’m referring to not disrupting the forward lines. The D we can play with.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I actually don’t think there’s much tradeable talent in Hershey. I think the team is unlikely to move Alzner, Carlson, Varlamov, Neuvirth or Holtby. The AHL veterans like Aucoin and Giroux aren’t very attractive in trade. And that leaves second-tier prospects like Kyle Wilson, Andrew Gordon, Matthieu Perrault and Oskar Osala. Every one of those guys has a knock on him that suggests that finding a full-time job on a good NHL team will be tough.

I think prospects elsewhere, like Orlov, Kugryshev, Broda, and Johansson are much more tradeable, in that the Caps would be more willing to lose them and other teams would be more interested in taking them.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

So unproven prospects are worth more than current pros?

My ability to post is only surpassed by my ability to pinch pennies.

by jordanDC on Feb 10, 2010 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Not so much more valuable as they are more tradable. I can buy that.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree for the most part but I have to think that some team would find a guy like Girroux or maybe Aucoin attractive.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

In my mind only as a part of a package deal or one involving another minor league player. Neither player has shown the ability to stick at the NHL level. Aucoin’s experience in 2 different organizations has been quite similar.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah, I think those particular unproven prospects (at least Orlov, Kuger and Mackan) are more valuable than those particular pros (Wilson, Gordon, MP and double-O)

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Gordon and Wilson I agree; those guys don’t have a ton of value (but will to us when they move up to fill our grinder ranks). MP and OO I think do have value because MP has shown at least a limited ability to produce in the NHL and OO has that tantalizing power forward package that people will always take a chance on. At the very least he’ll be our Daniel Cabrera.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not saying no value. Just less than Orlov, Kuger and Mackan. (I’d probably say they have about the same or a little more than Broda)

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Broda has little to no value. He’s an overager in the WHL and you know how I feel about his skating. I’d say OO and MP have more value than Kuger, less than Mackan, and probably about the same as Orlov. I think Orlov is tough to gauge value because you don’t know how different teams evaluate his KHL risk factor. His skill value is definitely high, but he already fell to the second round because teams were afraid of taking a risk on him, how much would have changed now?

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Well none of them are really proven. MP is the only one that has done anything in the NHL. And both Orlov and Mackan are current pros as well.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

it does teach the young guys how to win, and get them in the mindset of expecting to win. That being said, we have plenty of assets we could trade. The caps need to make room in Hershey for Eakin and Della Rovere next season

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Eakin is only 18, he is junior eligible next year and can’t play in Hershey. Anyway lots of the Hershey contracts expire after the end of the year. There’s always a pretty big turnover with free agent AHL guys every year. I don’t see problems making room for Delly and a few others as well.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Ah, i thought this was Eakin’s last year of eligibility for some reason. Thanks.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Birthday is 5/91 so he turns 19 this year.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

You can make room for those 2 guys by not resigning Aucoin and Giroux next season if you wanted to. Both are UFA.

I don’t want to trade young assets like Holtby, Carlson, Neuvy, Alzner, Mackan, SDR, or Eakin. I’m fine trading some of the other young guys who could be part of a package deal.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d note that only about half the Hershey team are legitimate NHL prospects.
Hershey plays a lot of minor league talent that probably wouldn’t make the NHL. Quite a few of the Caps best prospects are still in juniors or other leagues.

by Stormblue on Feb 10, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

The Caps have already addressed one issue via trade — they upgraded their offensive production at a “sandpaper” position by adding Jason Chimera. He has as many goals in 20 games as Chris Clark had in 38 games.

At this point, I think one has to ask, has this team and the way it has played over the last two months (35-7-0 since Dec. 1 — let that sink in a moment) earned it a chance to win with the team as it currently stands? If a deal presents itself, that’s one thing, but there isn’t the urgency to find a piece at the moment.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions   3 recs

25-7-0, that is… chalk it up to early morning math

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with you, but I think that the interest among many fans lies in removing all doubt, which will never happen.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

GMGM is in an interesting position where I’ll bet his phone is ringing more than he’s dialing these days. With the roster freeze Friday, I expect nothing from the Caps but it’ll be interesting to see what happens in the next 48 hours…

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by bigonetimer on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they’ll make any trades, unless it is a minor one involving Hershey prospects. They’d be foolish to mess with the chemistry. (Then again I said that when they traded Clark.) There are only a few players that I’d be willing to part with (Sloan, Lainger), and I don’t think anyone wants them. Even Lainger, though, he seems to be a big part of the team. Just wouldn’t mess with it.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

At least the Clark trade was for someone they had wanted for a while though. Odds are if they wanted him long enough they had put some serious thought into the chemistry issue. If they go off their own radar for a trade at the deadline then I’d worry a bit more about chemistry.

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by renstar on Feb 10, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t heard that they wanted Chimera for awhile….for whatever reason I thought it was Columbus who initiated everything.

by Yoshietree on Feb 10, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think GMGM said they tried to get him in September but couldn’t pull it off

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by renstar on Feb 10, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Ya, he said there had been some early talks in August or September. I got the impression that the talks were re-ignited after we played Columbus and Boudreau was impressed. The trade happened a couple weeks later.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

We played CLB in early November ‘cos that’s when AO got hurt. Trade was finalized 12/28.

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by EmilyB on Feb 10, 2010 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

You are right, I looked it up, it was Nov. 1 that we played CBJ at home. Either way I remember BB saying he was impressed with Chimmer in that game.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, it had been in the works since September. (However, I do remember reading that Columbus wanted Clark, and that’s what initiated it. I could be wrong, though.)

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

The only caveat I’d throw into the “25-7” analysis is that opposing defenses are going to tighten up in the playoffs. There are going to be times when the Caps have to win 2-1. So while you’re right Peerless that it’s probably not absolutely crucial to make trade, an upgrade on D would still be welcome IMO.

by Kolzilla on Feb 10, 2010 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point, I think one has to ask, has this team and the way it has played over the last two months (25-7-0 since Dec. 1 — let that sink in a moment) earned it a chance to win with the team as it currently stands?

No. If GMGM wakes up in the morning and is offered a trade that improves the team, he makes the deal. No group of players is more valuable than the team as a whole.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

This is a great point. We as fans fall in love with certain players and see them as key parts of their team.

In ’91, the Penguins traded away John Cullen (who was leading their team in scoring and went on to a 110-point season). In ’92, they traded away two future Hall-of-Famers in Coffey and Recchi.

In ’94, the Rangers traded Mike Gartner, one of the most consistent scoring forwards of all time, and a 23-year-old Tony Amonte.

In ’96, the Avs traded for Patrick Roy.

In ’06, the Canes brought in two veteran forwards in Recchi and Weight.

Last year, the Pens got Geurin and Kunitz.

(These are just off the top of my head.)

What I’m saying is, the team you see now is probably not going to be the team that goes into the playoffs. Whether that means it’s a defenseman (probably) or a goalie (possibly), a move is going to get made.

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe not. GMGM will not move if the right move isn’t available. I wouldn’t bet the farm on him making a major move.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It it too bad we can’t play the game against Chicago prior to the trade deadline. That will be a good measuring stick game, to see how we stack up against a potential WC opponent.

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by EmilyB on Feb 10, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey Peerless — if you were GMGM, and Anaheim offered Niedermayer for Shaone Morrisonn, Dmitri Orlov, and a 1st round draft pick, would you do that deal?

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Interesting (although you didn’t ask me). Orlov and a late first rounder is not negligible value.

But I would pull the trigger pretty quickly, to tell you the truth.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

In a word, yes. I’m not saying that the Caps won’t deal, but their universe has become much narrower in the past couple of months. I suspect that they might have one or two players they might target at a very specific price. They don’t have to cast a wider net or give up more of the farm a smuch as other teams might to be more competitive this year.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I was trying to come up with a “perfect deal” — something that proves your point by showing how hard it is to come up with a good trade at this point.

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

That is a great deal for both teams, and I’m sure McPhee would jump at that. Neidermeyer would really help Green, I think. While not a physical defenseman, he’s so good positionally (like Lidstrom) in his own end.

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to imagine someone will offer ANA more than that for Nieds.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d probably go for that. But I have trouble believing another team asks for (accepts) Morrisonn, and he’s the only roster D-man I’d be willing to get rid of. (OK, maybe Sloan, but he’s probably got even less value.)

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep looking at the standings, and I REALLY don’t want to see an Atlantic Division team sitting in the 8-seed if we end up winning the conference. Ovie hasn’t even played a playoff series vs a non-Atlantic opponent. Can’t we draw Tampa or Montreal? Would one soft opponent really be too much to ask? I just KNOW we’ll end up playing Philly 1st round.

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by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 7:51 AM EST reply actions  

Or the friggin’ Rangers again.

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by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 7:51 AM EST up reply actions  

what’s wrong with playing the rangers again. you know bettman wants that one and ovie seems to shine their. plus all those tortorella press conferences would be great theater. the rags are never boring. i just don’t want a boston or a philly in the first round that can play loose and unfettered with low expectations high experience

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by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I think our problems with the Rags last time was a slow start. With the increased traffic in front of Hank and the experience we got last year, I wouldn’t expect a repeat.

I’d be okay with Boston. They don’t have as many weapons as Philly and we can handle either Thomas or Rask.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind playing the Rangers again, but I really could do without their fans.

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by boutros23 on Feb 10, 2010 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

But just imagine the fun with water bottles with a whole series in which to get creative.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that with the East as close as it is at the bottom of the playoff seeding, we’re not going to know for sure who the draw is until the last game.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions  

is tampa bay really that soft? They play pretty physical game it seems

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

They have Konopka and Downie. The Caps last loss was to that team in Tampa. And the game was chock full of fights. That was the game that Bradley prevented Ovi from fighting Steve Downie.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

my thoughts exactly. Plus guys like Ryan Malone aren’t exactly pushovers.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Their skills guys like Vinny & Marty aren’t either.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Any Nittymaki has been playing great of late.

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by Scott in Shaw on Feb 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

4 A.M.? Seriouisly?

Damn J.P.

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by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 8:00 AM EST reply actions  

No, it’s 7 AM Eastern. Check the time zone in your profile; it defaults to Pacific.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

9PM JST!

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s not to say that I’m neither a garbageman nor a ninja, though.

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by J.P. on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Mike Knuble?

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Nice

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by Ninjak on Feb 10, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Garnja?

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by bigonetimer on Feb 10, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Ganja? Late night/early morning munchies?

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

yea its crazy, and a great set of links, should be a busy day here, since I have a feeling not too many people are going to work today

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by Doncosmic on Feb 10, 2010 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to log into work from home very soon now.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Been home since Saturday night and going completely stir crazy and insane. I am going to go shovel my neighbor’s driveways just to give me something to do. How much is it supposed to snow anyway? Looks like we have about 5 so far.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Don’t forget to shovel out the fire hydrants, people!

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Damn that Olympic break for stopping the momentum the Caps will have after 17 consecutive wins. Seriously? Seriously.

Can’t we just count Russian wins in Vancouver as Caps wins?

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 AM EST reply actions  

i will be.

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by mrszilla on Feb 10, 2010 9:30 AM EST up reply actions  

You can always cut open the stomach and hide inside for warmth.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 10, 2010 8:25 AM EST up reply actions  

and i thought they smelled bad on the outside

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Why not a combination of all 3?

You should call Mr. Plow!

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That name again is (click me)

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

perhaps you should go steal @ericfehr16 truck w/ plow. nothing says canadian like a guy who brings a truck and plow to virginia!

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 10, 2010 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

All I can say is thank the heavens for underground lines.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:27 AM EST up reply actions  

I can’t see across the street.

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by boutros23 on Feb 10, 2010 8:31 AM EST up reply actions  

At least you have a tauntaun.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 8:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m on mobile so can’t officially rec, but have to rec this comment as one of the best ever.

by katzistan on Feb 10, 2010 8:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I haven’t seen a plow yet, today, but I did see these guys out and about…

I don’t think they’re from VDOT

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Actually, they are: they’re taking a new approach.

by DrinkingPartner on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

melting the snow with lasers!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

And also people.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for noting Core’s contributions, J.P. – it’s nice to see him getting so many pixels.

Could you also do the same for Mike Wise’s work so I know to steer clear? Thanks!

by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 8:31 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

Heh.

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by J.P. on Feb 10, 2010 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d appreciate that as well and I’m only being half snarky about it. Brutal. I didn’t even read the whole thing.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

You did yourself a favor. He’s hopeless.

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by bigonetimer on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I was thinking clueless but yeah – it’s never going to get better with him. I enjoyed his work better when it didn’t appear until the playoffs.

by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 9:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Good morning, good sir. Perhaps while the winter snows keep everything (and everyone) snowbound, you could suit your profile with a nice fancy avatar? It makes for interesting discussion and it’s a great Valentine’s Day gift.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The avatar police strike again! Maybe Cheap Trick can turn make this into a song, too.

by Moonage Daydream on Feb 10, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

..or may he could just Surrender.

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by Rather Bengt on Feb 10, 2010 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Peer pressure is a powerful force…

by bugula on Feb 10, 2010 10:43 AM EST up reply actions   4 recs

And its reaction is just as powerful. Rec’d for you sir.

Damn! Looks like my women is on time.

by Bald Pollack on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

And a good one!

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

He actually already has an avatar, it just got covered up by the snow.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 10, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Wise’s column today was incredibly bad. Lord only knows what the heck he was thinking when he wrote that. Stick to the long form Mikey, it’s where your talent is.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 8:41 AM EST up reply actions  

In other news, Stein is killing it in the Bog the past week. He’s usually good but he’s put together some great coverage lately.

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by zephyr on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

On a side note about the ratings of the Pens/Caps game:

I wonder how much higher the ratings would have been if tons of people hadn’t been out of power.

Steinburg mentions that about 123,000 households watched the game in DC for a 5.3 market share. I wonder if that’s JUST the city or the entire DC area. Assuming it’s the DC area and about 100,000 people in the area were without power … that might have been a 5.5 or 5.6

If you consider how many more people along the east coast had power that national 1.3 might have made it to a 1.4 or 1.5. Not a HUGE jump, but hey… any little thing that can boost NHL ratings is good.

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 8:33 AM EST reply actions  

I’m fine the reporting of the ratings. The comparisons between the DC market and Pittsburgh don’t bother me either. As Steinberg snarked, what else is there to do in Pittsburgh?

Something I’ve wondered about regarding that difference — does the Pittsburgh media give significantly more coverage/promotion to the team than DC’s media? After all, it’s repeatedly pointed out that prior to Crosby’s arrival, when the team was bad, the arena was empty, just like in DC. As they got better, did they get better coverage and therefore more eyeballs? Is what we’re seeing now a copy of that?

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Well I’m not so much worried about the market share in DC vs PBURG as I am curious about what the numbers would be for ANY market had the snowstorm not occured.

I wonder how many people were out of power on the entire east cost during that last storm

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

A good question, but one that will likely go unanswered. I suppose, once the numbers are released, you get take the ratings for DC and use that to estimate the number of extra people that might have been watching, but obviously that’s not a science.

by Yoshietree on Feb 10, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Shouldn’t be too hard. Just gotta figure out what the game’s marketshare % translates to in total # of households then add (those without power * market %)… then convert that population back to marketshare.

Normally.. if it were a regular TV show I wouldn’t expect any variance in the national % but since the markets with all the power problems were those to bring up the average… it would likely make the national average budge a little bit.

Normally.. if it were a regular TV show I wouldn’t expect any variance in the national % but since the markets with all the power problems were those to bring up the average… it would likely make the national average budge a little bit.Seems trivial to argue over a couple tenths of a % but it would just be nice if NBC understood the actual potential that this game could have brought it.

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

(those without power * market % DC Market %)

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know about media coverage, but I know that during hockey season at least one high school puts up printed out Pens logos with “Go Pens!” and pastes them up on the walls throughout the school. If you’re putting up signs in schools, you’re probably going to get at least one reaction.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Something that I’ve seen recently on Nucks Misconduct and Raw Charge is a guide to Caps’ players nicknames to help outsiders follow a GDT.

I thought it might be a good idea for a FanShot, and I would do it myself, but I honestly can’t think of that many nicknames off the top of my head. I can only think of a couple, but if someone else knows nicknames well enough, I think it might be a decent idea.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:42 AM EST reply actions  

Have also seen this on Mile High Hockey.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:43 AM EST up reply actions  

Do we have that many mysterious nicknames? Nucks Misconduct has some truly weird ones.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s why we might not necessarily need it. The only one I can really think of off the top of my head is Bubbles.

But I don’t really keep up with the nickname business.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:53 AM EST up reply actions  

The other one that comes to mind is Mr. Nasty.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Off the top of my head – Hot Pockets, Grandpa Slippers, Jizz (though this one is fairly obvious), Mean Lars.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

See they’re out there! I just don’t really use them, so I don’t really know them. But if there are enough obscure ones it might be worth a fan shot to make this place a bit more welcoming visitors from other teams on game days.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:25 AM EST up reply actions  

My favorite nickname of recent years, Captain Cadaver, is gone.

Most of the one’s that haven’t been mentioned already are pretty self explanatory

BMo, ShaMo, Kanoobie, GreenLife52, Potsy, Varly, Neuvi, Karlznerson, etc..

Maybe it’s time we come up with some new ones, seeing as I’m snowed in yet again, I may start thinking about some before tonight’s game.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve always called ShaMo “Shamu”.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Hah! I remember when he scored that goal against the Rangers in the comeback game at MSG I started calling him Sham-WOW for a while. Then he went back to doing what he usually does…

Forgot, we also have Flash, Sarge is another one. Threeormore (I’ve also seen Threeorfour), though I don’t like using that one anymore for Theo.

Of course, Ovie has a host of nick names, none of which I think would throw people off.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re forgetting about the Professor as well for some reason.

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by apk3000 on Feb 10, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh man, can’t believe I forgot that one! I think that’s as good as sign as any I need some coffee.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Lets not forget the old standby: Muffins for Boyd Gordon

by DonCaps819 on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

“Muffins”

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

(DonCaps beat me to it)

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Can we quit with the whole bandwagon fan thing for good? New rule: anyone who wants to root for the Caps is welcome, end of story. Next time a Pens fan or blog calls the Caps’ fanbase “bandwagon”, just say “sure it is” and move on to talking about hockey.

by katzistan on Feb 10, 2010 8:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs

Seriously. A fan has to start somewhere. All of us were once new fans.

We can gripe about those that are only here during the good times, but for now there’s no way to tell which fans will stick or jump ship during the rough patches.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Not like they didn’t get a lot more fans to start showing up after the great Crosby Sweepstakes.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Please and thank you… I hate people who critisize Caps fans and call us band wagoners.

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by amkcaps on Feb 10, 2010 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Peerless has been just killing it lately
the Caps don’t have to do anything, personnel-wise, to be a legitimate Cup contender

I agree with this, as far as it goes. Right now, they are a contender. An upgrade or two, and they’ll be the odds-on favorite.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 8:49 AM EST reply actions  

No matter what they do, the road out of the East passes through Newark, NJ. Despite their trending in recent years, New Jersey is definitely an unstoppable beast, and the teams should just bow down to them, and hand them the Prince of Wales Trophy.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not convinced of this. How many times does the bright shiny bauble taken in the trading season actually get to carry around the Cup.

The difference this year that gives Jersey something of an advantage (and perhaps why there might be a flurry of activity in the next couple of days), is that there is a second trading deadline. The Olympic break, which provides its own trading deadline, gives teams a few extra games compared to the usual year to assimilate their new players and get them integrated before the playoffs. Too often, teams seem to make the big splash, and they aren’t quite meshed when the playoffs start, leading to early exits.

I’m not entirely convinced that Kovalchuk is the last piece to make Jersey the favorite coming out of the East. Frankly, if anything, I’d be worried about their defense. In their last 20 games they’ve allowed 2.60 goals a game, a rather high number for that bunch. And Marty isn’t 25 anymore.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

(I was being verysarcastic. I do not see NJ as the strongest team. Not in the slightest.)

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, but there seem to be quite a group of professional hockey writers who think that very thing.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

I wasn’t sure, so I felt I had to clarify. And yeah. Apparently Kovalchuk is the piece that will carry a team past the second round, and through overall mediocre performances. He’s good but I just don’t see him as being that piece.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

And not only is Marty not 25, their D doesn’t sport names like Stevens, Rafalski, and Niedermayer.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

The other thing that would concern me about the Kovalchuk signing is that he had some fairly adept playmakers in Atlanta in guys like Maxim Afinogenov and Tobias Enstrom. Jersey hasn’t really had that sort of playmaker, and it bears asking who is going to be Kovalchuk’s set-up guy. There is only so much he can create on his own. I have to think Lou has one more deal in him to address this.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see having Elias as being a significant downgrade from Afinogenov and Enstrom. He is better than both, but he is also only one man. Of course, they could always decide to try a top heavy line up.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Anything to not label the Caps as the favorite!

/snark

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions  

there seem to be quite a group of professional hockey writers who think that very thing.

Writers gotta write. Happens every year. Bouwmeester, Hossa, and on back through the years…

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

The bad defense label frustrates me as a fan because I struggle to see the difference between bad D and good O. I can tell a good play from a bad play, but not what to look for to know if a player is doing a good job on D. Any advice as to what I should look for from our team in the Defensive zone?

by kman8924 on Feb 10, 2010 9:03 AM EST reply actions  

In most cases if it’s a turnover at the O line (Sloan, Poti against the Penguins) D.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Turnovers exiting the zone, turnovers high in the offensive zone are a big one.

Guys getting caught in no man’s land on scoring chances (and goals) is another area to watch.

Losing battles down low.

Passes that make it across the width of the D zone.

Having an unmarked opponent in the slot.

All things to watch for.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 9:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Damnit I thought I had replied with a bit more in depth. But a good indicator is how much space the goal scorer has. In the Pittsburgh game, the scorer was relatively unmolested on all 4 goals. That points to blown coverage whether it be a winger not covering the high slot, or a D man chasing the puck or simply not being in position.

All players are taught from a young age to never play with it at the blue line (either one). If it’s a turnover at the defensive blue line that points to some pretty piss poor D.

I don’t necessarily consider losing battles down low bad D. Depending on the situation it may simply be a very good forecheck. Often it’s a combination of the two (bad D, good O).

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks to both of you. I figured I could tap into the Rink’s plentiful hockey knowledge and you delivered!

by kman8924 on Feb 10, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

So, you consider the first part of the breakout technically defense?

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Part of the D’s to ensure that the puck gets safely out of the zone, so yes, I qualify the first part of transition as D.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Do you mean D’s as in defensemen’s job, or do you mean D’s as in part of defense?

If you say it’s part of the d-man’s job, I don’t buy it as a reason to call it defense, only because d-men also have to keep the puck in the offensive zone, and I don’t call that defense.

If you say like the latter, I completely buy it from a team defense perspective.

I think hockey is too transition oriented to see where the defense line stops, and the offense line starts some times. A great break out pass (Like Schultz’s on Sunday) – is that offense or defense? Or was it a bit of both?

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Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

Team defense. The quality of defense is different from the quality of defensive corps, as I’ve noted. And in the Caps’ case, the former is better than the latter.

A d man is more likely to be starting a transition from the d zone than a winger, but it’s the team’s responsibility on the whole.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

it’s great seeing both the Caps and Bears rolling right now. I’m actually astonished at how unbelievable this org has become under Ted, GMGM, Yingst… it’s crazy. League leaders in both the NHL and AHL. Aucoin with 71 pts?! Two Bears in the top 5 scoring ranked 1 and 2. Then AO and Backstrom ranked 1 and 5. Simply awesome.

Caps 'n Bears

by Bongos on Feb 10, 2010 9:08 AM EST reply actions  

dont forget the stingrays who are leading the ECHL in points. a paltry 13 point lead in their division…slackers.

anyone ever seen an ECHL game? wondering what kind of fan support the stingrays get down in south carolina? i think neuvirth spent some time down there, correct.? any other caps make the leap from there to the NHL?

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 10, 2010 9:15 AM EST up reply actions  

holtby i suppose is another but he really hasn’t played in the NHL

Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing...

by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen a couple ECHL games, one in San Diego and one in Florida. Attendance depends on the team’s history in the market and how teams are currently playing just like in other pro leagues. Some teams draw great and some struggle to draw.

I think you are correct that Neuvy and Holtby are the only guys who played for the Rays and suited up for the Caps.Caps affiliation with the Rays is relatively new. I believe it began in 2006. The one other guy I know of for sure who played for the Rays and now plays in NHL is Rich Peverley.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

i went to a couple san diego gulls games when i lived in san diego back in the mid 90’s. there were an independent team at the time so they had a lot more has beens than every will bes. never seen such a rough and tumble game…and that was in the stands. i think they had some sort of record for most wins in a season or most points at the time.

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by dcsportsfan1 on Feb 10, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

they had a lot more has beens than every will bes.

Sounds like an ECHL game to me. Typicallys there may be 2-3 guys tops who have a shot at the NHL on most ECHL rosters. The Gulls game I went to in ’99 was close to unwatchable. Ridiculous fights and the worst passing I may have ever seen above mites in a hockey game. The Everblades game I went to last year was definitely much more entertaining.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Sean Collins, if you want to count him.

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by jordanDC on Feb 10, 2010 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

anyone ever seen an ECHL game? wondering what kind of fan support the stingrays get down in south carolina?

jakeshapiro wrote this FanPost a while back about his experience at a Stringrays game. Interesting stuff.

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by Laich It Or Lump It on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I went to an ECHL game way back in the day of the Chesapeake Icebreakers at the Show Place Arena in Upper Marlboro…its been awhile.

by DonCaps819 on Feb 10, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I think I went to an Icebreakers game once.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

I got free tickets from a radio station when I was like 12, and a player came to my middle school. good times.

by DonCaps819 on Feb 10, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t remember much at all about it.

Familiar Rapports: Bald Pollack, F&B, Gould Old Days.

Lobbies: Osala, Perreault, Erskine, Pothier, Neuvirth, Flash.

Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Used to go to those games a lot.

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by jordanDC on Feb 10, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m going to see the Stingrays play on the 20th. I’ll have a report.

I used to take in an E game or two every year in Toledo. But Toledo had a hard-earned reputation of being one of goonier teams.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve seen a few ECHL games. What exactly are you asking about? It’s not the most talented league but it’s still grown men that can play some hockey. Very few of them will ever sniff the NHL but it’s a step up from the amateur development leagues.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

GreenLife52:
People are wondering what I mean’t when I said me and Wale have something we are working on. We were thinking of doing a charity event together. No I will not be in a video or anything like that. Just an innocent charity event. I’ll let you know more details soon…

Color me disappointed, I was kinda looking forward to the craziness a Wale/GeenLife video would generate. I suppose charity is good too though…

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by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 9:28 AM EST reply actions  

Haha, yeah – it would’ve been funny. Who knows, maybe it’ll happen eventually – they seem to be friends. I can see a charity event run by the two of them having the potential to be pretty cool, though.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

would have been hilarious if Green guested on a track.

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by Sombrero Guy on Feb 10, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Imagine the reaction from Canada!

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

PPP would cry.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, remember that great photo of Sarge playing Rock Band? I see some similarities here.

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by boutros23 on Feb 10, 2010 9:30 AM EST reply actions   3 recs

Awesome. The similarities are frightening. Muppets are probably only second to the Wire with me.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 9:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Sarge is the third Blues Brother.

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

All we are is butts in the crease?

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m watching the Pens game and apparently it was far too much for Doc to remember the score after the first Staal goal, he said it was 3-0. I have about 50 more gripes with NBC but I have a feeling most of them were covered earlier.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 10:38 AM EST reply actions  

Goalies

Word on the street is Marty Turco is on the market. Will the Caps try to pick him up? If they do, who leaves? Varly, or Theo? Just a rumor…most news is saying our D is underrated and out G is iffy

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

The Caps will not try to pick him up. At this point he’s no better than Theo, and he is more expensive.

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by Steckel Me Elmo on Feb 10, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Seriously. I’m not saying we’ve got the greatest goalie situation in the world, but it’s been pretty darn good lately. And there really isn’t anything on the market that would be an improvement over what we’ve got. I wish the chatter about trading for a goalie would stop.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, right now our “goalie situation” is two that have been playing very well recently, and one that was playing very well before getting injured. All three won’t realistically keep up incredible numbers, but I don’t see it as a bad situation.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

I’d say that the reverse is closer to the truth, though neither is as bad as Mike Milbury would have you believe. Our goalies have done very well lately, all of them. That said, we do have extra goalies around (weird but true), so I highly doubt that we want or trade for Turco.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

FYI, from Tarik:

@TarikElBashir No disciplinary action for Mike Green’s tardiness. He will play tonight. “Might make him buy lunch,” Boudreau said.

@TarikElBashir Semyon Varlamov might not play at all on the trip, Boudreau said. He’s definitely not playing tonight or tomorrow.

@TarikElBashir All signs point to Michal Neuvirth starting tonight.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 11:17 AM EST reply actions  

If he’s not going to play, then why not keep Varlamov down in Hershey to get ice time?

by RCheli on Feb 10, 2010 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Because they want him facing NHL-level shots and NHL-level practice, and sorry, Giroux isn’t that. Also, including him keeps the opposing coaches guessing, which is more likely a bonus than the reason for doing so.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

To add to your reasons, I’d add that keeping all three together for this brief period allows Irbe to coach all 3 of the goalies at once.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

That’s definitely a good point. Also, I don’t think Hershey plays until Friday anyways.

by caps123 on Feb 10, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Now there’s a novel concept. Also novel — all three healthy at the same time.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

You know, I’m not sure Arturs spends any time with Theo. I have never seen them so much as talk at the practices I’ve been too. He spends all his time with Varly and Neuvy. Theo is, what, 35 now?

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s 33. That’s still a bit suprising though. It makes sense for him to work mostly with Varly and Neuvy, but I still thought he worked with Theo a little, too.

by caps123 on Feb 10, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

The one practice I went to back in the Fall he spent 90% of his time with Varly. He did speak some with Theo, but as you state the focus is where it should be on the young goalies. They have much more to learn than Theo.

I’m guessing Irbe just works with Theo on rebound control and issues they see on tape.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point, probably more off-ice work with Theo.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

This last comment makes sense to me. Theo has his physical technique — his muscle memory — down already. You’re not going to change him. But I bet there’s still a fair amount of coaching done off the ice.

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s lots of head stuff. “What were you thinking when you came out to X?” “What were you reading on this particular play?” How are you approaching the game and stuff like that.

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by Fehr and Balanced on Feb 10, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

two of the three practices I’ve been to, Irbe spent that majority of his time with Theo.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly I’m not surprised that Varly might not play. Theo/Neuvy have been doing so well, and while it’s important to get Varly up here and practicing with the team, I don’t really see the need to play him now.
So I guess Theo goes tomorrow night, and then either him or Neuvy get the Blues.

by caps123 on Feb 10, 2010 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Agree with caps123. No need to see Varly play before the Olympics. Another reason why he wasn’t left in Hershey was that they don’t play until Friday. Actually, I think Varly on the Olympic team is a nice way for him to get back in to the swing of things and help his confidence. He’ll be ready for a game in March.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s not out of the question that Neuvirth goes back to Hershey after the game tonight in order to miss the required number of Caps games before the break (except for maybe not being able to actually get to Hershey). Theo can handle Thursday and Saturday games with Varlamov as backup.

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by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point. Since it was the Caps intention to have Neuvy qualify for AHL play during the Olympics, I think that is likely.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

After the game tonight, and after the snow stops….

by miseenjeu on Feb 10, 2010 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

The question is — when will the latter occur. (Neuvy can certainly get back to Hershey for Friday’s game without any problem.)

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

TEB is hearing Chimera prolly out w/ a groin thing.

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by EmilyB on Feb 10, 2010 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

Ouch. That sucks :(
So Laing is in?

by caps123 on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Q gets a sweater tonight?

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by ThePeerless on Feb 10, 2010 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Guess this means Laing finally gets a game. I’m glad Brooksie never had to talk him back from the ledge.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

What do you suppose this means for the 3rd line? Who gets the bump up? Brads? Maybe our new found sniper Gordo?

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Can’t find where I read it, but I heard Brads.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

via @VogsCaps
Jason Chimere not on the ice this am. Last two lines changed up a bit: Fehr-B. Morrison-Bradley and Laing-Steckel-Gordon.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

well now we know how he missed that open net against the pens. get well beast!

erskine has scored...now i can die in peace

by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet BB isn’t happy. He hates to change things up when we’re winning.

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by CapitalCentre on Feb 10, 2010 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. Q gets a sweater and Brads moves up to third line.

Laing took warmups at the Penguins game. Maybe Chimera was iffy even then?

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by EmilyB on Feb 10, 2010 11:51 AM EST up reply actions  

They now couldn’t afford to bench Green for disciplinary reasons. 5 blue lines. No spares. Somehow I don’t think we’d press a goalie into service on the blue line.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

5 blue liners, I mean.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

They’ve been lucky with the injury bug lately. If its anything more than a mild strain they’ll most likely shut him down for these last 3 contests before the OLY break.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Injuries are never good, but if you’re going to get hurt, may as well be before a nice long break.

Knowing Qs bad luck injury history, is anyone else concerned that something awful may happen to him tonight? He’s already had the spleen, puck in the face, swine flu. I’d say it can’t get any worse but it IS Q.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Could get sliced from a skate.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

That was actually the first thing that came to mind, particularly with all the skate slicingmincidents this year. But I didn’t want to say it for fear that it might actually happen.

by BradleyFightingVehicle on Feb 10, 2010 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Somewhere on this big blue marble, Clint Malarchuk and Richard Zednik just cringed.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe they can put a neck guard on him.

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by Karl W on Feb 10, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Here’s the CI post: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitalsinsider/chimera-not-skating.html

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by cobracg on Feb 10, 2010 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Poor Chimmer. Sounds like a “lower body injury” since he was limping.

Does that mean Laing will play tonight?

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m confident the 17 game streak will be broken. Why? Because every other DC record has been broken this year. We just broke the record for most snow in one winter in history. Obama just released the largest budget in U.S. history.

I’m feelin’ lucky. Maybe I’ll go grab some lottery tickets.

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

Considering this was the year that the long time downtrodden New Orleans Saints won the Super Bowl for the first time ever. Why can’t this be the year that a formerly long time downtrodden team wins the Stanley Cup — like our Washington Capitals.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Thinking too far ahead. Let’s take it one shift, one period at a time, and the game and the streak will take care of itself.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Tonight’s motivation. Montreal is a possible first round playoff opponent.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. That’d be nasty.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t dare think about breaking the 17 game streak or not. you’ve just got to play one period at a time. right now i just want to see them come out and play a good 1st period now that they’ve had the opportunity to practice and get away from the snow for a little while

erskine has scored...now i can die in peace

by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup. my thought. Play one shift, one period at a time, and the streak will take care of itself. Montreal’s been pretty good lately.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

i don’t dare think about breaking the 17 game streak or not. you’ve just got to play one period at a time.

Yea but we’re not playing.. we’re just watching :)

The players are the ones to think about the one period at a time stuff. We’re FANS! We’re allowed to look beyond that stuff

by Brainumbc on Feb 10, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

We’ve already broken the DC record, though.

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Magic Number update

Playoffs: 22 points (gained by Caps, lost by Bruins, or a combination of both)

SED #1: 24 points (Lightning)

EC #1 Seed: 35 points (Devils)

Does not contemplate tiebreakers – i.e., these are the point totals to win it outright.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks. I don’t want to play with tiebreakers anyway. With 23 games left, we control our own destiny in the Eastern Conference, but this seems like a decent reason not to throw the streak away.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The problem with computing magic numbers at this point is that there’s so many teams in the equation.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

If you mean that the team to eliminate will change, I agree with you. But the actual number will only go down from here.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 2:02 PM EST up reply actions  

playoff matchups

EAST
Washington vs. Philadelphia
New Jersey vs. Montreal
Buffalo vs. Tampa Bay
Pittsburgh vs. Ottawa

WEST
San Jose vs. Calgary
Chicago vs. Nashville
Vancouver vs. Colorado
Phoenix vs. Los Angeles

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 1:16 PM EST reply actions  

No thanks. Not liking that one bit.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s going to be 15 teams in the playoffs we can find reasons for not wanting to play against. I’m all for playing anyone, because we’ll have to beat four, regardless of who they are.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, but I have preferences.

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by Ovechwin on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I do too, and all things considered I don’t think we’ll see Philly in the first round when all is said and done. Second round maybe, but first is unlikely, especially if we can keep the top seed in the East (a highly desirable thing if you ask me).

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Buffalo’s going to slide out of the NE division lead. Maybe not tomorrow, but by the end of the season.

Philly may not end up as 8th seed. I think they’re too strong to finish there given the closeness of the last four spots. They’re also the winners of a tiebreaker between them and Boston, and I’ll cheerfully take a first round vs. Boston.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

It would not surprise me either if Buffalo loses the NE Division lead. Ottawa has been playing much better, as of late.

(Of course, that’s an understatement. They just had a long winning streak.)

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, they have. They’re still playing good hockey and Brian Elliott has been lights-out for them. Montreal probably won’t win missing Cammalleri but they’ll make Ottawa think.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

honestly, spots 2-5 are all up for grabs. The Pens are nipping at the Devils, and Ottawa has the same number of points as Buffalo (but has played more games). At this point, Washington will be #1. We know who will be 2-5, but no idea what order. 6-13 is a crap shot.

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by RedBirdie on Feb 10, 2010 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Will most likely be #1. I’m not going to hang my hat on it just yet.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as we play reasonably well during March and April. Of course, we got to do just that, anyhow, just to be in good fighting form for the playoffs.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, yes. I could wish for a tougher schedule in March and April, but at least it’s not last year’s cupcake.

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s a nice hat.

Atta dinnin stick a who!

by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Why thank you. :)

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Flyers will probably pass up Montreal and Tampa Bay before the year’s out. They have too much talent not to do so.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

And three games in hand over Montreal and one over Tampa. On the minus side, Philly’s only played 27 road games so far (Habs: 30 and Lightning: 29).

Still, I think Philly ends up with the 6th seed.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Broken starting goalie + no cap room + underachieving superstars does not seem like a recipe for success to me. I’ll take the “under”

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by Gould Old Days on Feb 10, 2010 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, it’s interesting. I’m diametrically on the other side, here.

Have we gotten word on Emery yet? All I could get yesterday was that he was having an MRI due to stiffness in his hip. The GM said it was not a short term problem. Not that I believe him.

Anyway, even if Emery is broken I don’t see Leighton as a huge downgrade.

Note that I’m not predicting massive success for the Flyers here – I’m just saying they hold off the Habs (big injury problems, no scoring) and the Lightning (bad defense, inconsistent) for the 6th seed. I keep thinking the underachieving superstars will right the ship, to tell you the truth.

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by fat_daddyo on Feb 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I keep thinking the underachieving superstars will right the ship, to tell you the truth.

I’ve had the same fear all season long.

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by CP2Devil on Feb 10, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It would not surprise me either. They might even pass up Buffalo if they get hot. Buffalo has really been playing poorly as of late. If last year was any indication, they are a poor 2nd half team.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 11, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm

This is interesting, can you imagine us beating Philly and Pittsburgh on the way to the cup? I wouldn’t even care about all those times they beat us in the past, that would be the icing before we got the cake!

I predict: Washington vs New York first round…

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I assume you mean Rangers, not Islanders.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

haha, yes, the Rangers, I think the’ll pull it together at the end of the season but they wont be able to handle us in the first round, (hopefully)

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the Isles are a better team than the Rangers.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

The isles are definitely one of the most improved teams this year, but the Rangers have too much talent and their goal tending is far too exceptional for them to keep slumping.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

The Rangers don’t have much in the way of depth. Scoring, they have Gaborik, and frankly, that’s about it. Defensively, they’re not a juggernaut.

Basically, if Lundqvist plays well, they can win, and if not, they lose. Even when he plays well, they can lose. I’m not buying them as better than the Isles.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

quite frankly, goal tending is all you need to steal some games. That’s how they made the playoffs last year, and the only reason they took us to 7 games. If gabby and the top line start scoring, and Lundy can play lights out, they WILL make the playoffs

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I know that, I’m just not sure Lundqvist can do it.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

keep in mind this team knows how to win, they had the hottest start this season with 8 wins in a row and beat the capitals during that streak, torts just needs to pull his head out his * and tell them to play with some passion.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think coaching is as much to blame as the team in general is not as strong as people think.

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 1:59 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think they’re as good as they were last year…(and thats not saying much). trading Gomez turned out to be a major mistake and their division isn’t making things any easier on them. So you’re right, but I still think they have a better shot than the isles just because of their net-minder.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

has gomez been that great for the habs, though? how are the rags with their youth? it always seems to me that new york teams in just about all sports like the patience to build teams that have youth and depth.

erskine has scored...now i can die in peace

by souldrummer on Feb 10, 2010 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The Isles are better than they were last year but they’ve been having a lot of problems, as of late.

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by CapsFan75 on Feb 10, 2010 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

on Hamhuis

via @ MurphysLaw74

Was just told by reliable source, Pred’s dman Dan Hamhuis, a UFA 7/1/10, is very much in play for a trade and that Nashville wants scoring.

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 2:29 PM EST reply actions  

Well, here we go.

If they’re looking for scoring, we’ve got this Giroux guy…

by sixsevenfiftysix on Feb 10, 2010 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I realized after the fact that I should have put this as a reply to the earlier thread with a lot of Hamhuis mentions… but I’m glad someone found it way down here :)

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions  

If we got away with that kind of fleecing…

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by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m assuming that was tongue in cheek.

"The Caps fan doesn't say, 'is the glass half full' or 'is the glass half empty'. He wonders when the glass is going to spill."

by gfcaps fan on Feb 10, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Me too. But it made me dream.

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Fan of: Mean Lars Backstrom, Line Mashing, Cake.

by Whiter Mage on Feb 10, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha. Called it.

Well, scoring is something the Caps have by the bucketload, no doubt – question is who do they want?

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by gotsparkly on Feb 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I just now realized tonight’s game is at 7:30. Sigh. Another half hour to kill…

I have a C on my heart.

by boutros23 on Feb 10, 2010 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah I know, 7:30 is such a tease, now I have to stream the game while my roommate is watching the pens game on TV. P.S. Im in PA and Pens fans are PISSED after that sunday game hahaha.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha, nice. The only thing I don’t like about being out of school all week is that I haven’t gotten to see my favorite Pens fan student. It would have been so much fun!

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by kellobellow on Feb 10, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah man! I was supposed to come home for that game but the snow prevented that. Instead I got to watch it with 4 pens fans…after they gave me so much shit in the second period, Ovi got his hat trick and I ran into their room and threw my hats at them lol.

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by Chaz-Capapalooza on Feb 10, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

The awesome part about this wind is it’s keeping my satellite dish perfectly free of snow! Too bad the game isn’t in HD tonight.

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by zephyr on Feb 10, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not? Could have sworn CSN was advertising it that way.

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